1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 1: Yea from the Los Angeles Convention Center site of Radio Row. 2 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: It's the Around the NFL podcast. I'm Dan Hansas. I'm 3 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: gonna set filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, Ricky 4 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Hollywood now deep into her thirties. Am I right? Sean 5 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Payton's walking by with the whole crew, a walking talk, 6 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: A walking talk with Peyton, free agent coach, and you 7 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: know what, perfect timing for the other man on the couch, 8 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport, who just came by. We're gonna get into 9 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: the whole. This is the game preview show, so get excited. 10 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna dig deeper. Also gonna have Derrick Henry on 11 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: the show. That's gonna be awesome. But Ian Rappaport's a 12 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: great rap sheet buddy. What's going on is that the 13 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: next coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Let's start there like 14 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 1: literally next year. Sean Payton, Yeah, I hadn't heard of 15 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: those rumors. Off it feels to me. I don't know, 16 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: but it feels to me a little too like on 17 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: the nose. But a lot of times when those those things, 18 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: it's like everyone assumed for so long that Aaron Rodgers 19 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: is gonna get traded to the Broncos that it almost 20 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: feels to me like it's not gonna happen because everyone 21 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: has just assumed, you know, like that everyone has named 22 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: him the coach of the Cowboys. I'm sure Rosen Dalston 23 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: not a snarky tweet about it right after. It's like, 24 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: it's like Ian just assumed he could come onto our podcast. 25 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: We were just about to start. He walks up and 26 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: he's like, where's my invite? Where it was correct? Essentially 27 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: just walked onto the set, forced his way on and 28 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: has been texting for the last five minutes. Ever said, 29 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: that's not brand. He's he's not the only guy that's 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: allowed to do that, so you gotta take advantage of it. 31 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Is weird though, because like I am generally not that polite. 32 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: I think that's fair to say. And it's almost like 33 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: I have license to be not polite because I'll be 34 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: in a conversation and I'll hold on, I got a 35 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: text and it could be literally my wife and people like, oh, 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: dear thing, my dear thing. Like if if Pallisero tried 37 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: to pull the same move that you just did, he 38 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: would not be on the podcast right now. Wow, you 39 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: know that I've and I've said this before, like I 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: knew Ian before he was rap sheet and Ian was 41 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: always like this, there's a there's a demeanor. So you've 42 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: always kept it real. It's not like fame and incredible 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: wealth from being an NFL insider has changed you. This 44 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: is who you are. Respect that. I was built for this. 45 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: I've been kind of like rude, slash dismissive really since 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: I can Cecily, you said you had a follow up. No, 47 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean we've had We've had Ian on a number 48 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: of times. Calmed down there, it could be a professional. 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: You're thirty now, Oh, I guess he actually doesn't look 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: that imposing like we had justin Herbert on the show 51 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: and he looked like an actual god amongst men. Right, No, 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: you can go Ian whenever you feel comfortable. But like 53 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: no one's ever been like, oh, Mac Jones physical specimen, 54 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: Like it's crazy to be in the room with that guy. 55 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: What I mean, the best the best Jones picture was 56 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: him right with the shirt off smoking I think a cigar, right, yeah, something, 57 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: isn't it? And Patriots fans like remember Brady's combined photos, 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: So you know number two, it's not gonna happen again. 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: That's just what is Hey, what is the following? I 60 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: mean I always check in with this situation. You're a 61 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: you're an UM internationally known news breaker. I think you're 62 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: one of the recognizable football faces on the planet. Where 63 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: are we with like the the groupie the female groupie scenario? 64 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean, is it? I always like just to see 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: where we are. Um. I don't get a lot of 66 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: d m s from females. Um the same with these boys. 67 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: You should see our live shows. It's a sausage factory. 68 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: Know that. Actually that's on brand UM. Not a lot, 69 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: but some right, I've had not a lot of Mark's 70 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: response to them, Like the rate is very high. It's 71 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: like say yeah one literally. UM. I will sometimes go 72 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: through my uh you know, there's the three there's the categories. 73 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: There's like the categories of the people I know. Then 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 1: there's the categories people I kind of know. Then there's 75 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: the randoms. Sometimes I would go through the raindos just 76 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: to see and uh, really nothing is there ever? Like 77 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: you get maybe one of every once in a while. 78 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: Oh and Adam Schefter couldn't even carry your cell phone charger. Yeah, 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: I like that. I get some of that yeah, I 80 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: like it, and then move on hurrying favor with you. Yep, 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: your guys ms are a lot different than mine. What 82 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: yours like? Mine are bad? Mine are like bad meaning 83 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: good like bad yeah, yeah, yeah, alright, know what I mean. 84 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: But like like bad or like you've shown us something. 85 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: Some of them are pretty pretty crazy. Some of them 86 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: are like just like you're hot. Some of them are 87 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: like shows. I would say with you, certain people go 88 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: from zero to sixty very quickly with the Yeah. I 89 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: feel like everyone should be subjected at some point to 90 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: what women in the media have to deal with. It 91 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: would all lose their damn minds. It's so true, just 92 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: like do nothing and get random insults for no reason. 93 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: It's just I've been told him, like too fat for 94 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: an audio podcast? What the you're a woman? Really forceful 95 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: peace signs? He's like, yeah, that was me, waved as 96 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: they were going by. Is a lot going on here, 97 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: and I know you're a busy man and we have 98 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: a lot to get to but I want to ask 99 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: you this. You have been the insider and you gotta 100 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: answer this. Honestly, this is gonna be hard hitting question. 101 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: You've been doing this now for years about two thirteen 102 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: or so at NFL bec as the insider. That is 103 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: a job that ages you and what the hair dye 104 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: obviously has kept it from showing. But why do people think? 105 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, at what point do you walk 106 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: away from the insider role and find something else? Because 107 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: I imagine that the stress level, despite being a high 108 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 1: visibility gig, it has to be immense to the point 109 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: where maybe I want to put down my phone at 110 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: some point, maybe I want to hold my son who 111 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: I've never met before. May me there's these things like 112 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: does this go through your mind now that you've done 113 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: this so long? I try to hold my son he's eight, 114 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: and he doesn't like it very much. If I get 115 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: like one hug a week, then it's it's very lucky 116 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: as long as I don't mess up. But didn't think 117 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: it's cool what you do? It takes after the old man. 118 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, his hair is amazing. No, Uh do they 119 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: think it's cool? No? We My wife ended up talking 120 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: to my oldest son, Max's teacher yesterday and she was like, oh, yeah, 121 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: into the super Bowl and the teacher was like, oh, 122 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: that's cool, Like is this his first one? And She's 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: like oh no, but he's you know, on TV, and 124 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: she's like, oh really, Max had never mentioned it at 125 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: one time and he's been in school for five that 126 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: never came up. And it says a lot though that 127 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: you think that surprising, like that you would have assumed 128 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: he has told all of his friends, you know, the 129 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: names of our two cats. But it goes like you'll 130 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: you'll hear Tom Hanks say the same thing, like my 131 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: kids do not care. It just it filters all the 132 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: way down. They care if they care if they are 133 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: on TV, like when I'm doing like the Mac if 134 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: you show or something, I forget to lock the door 135 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: and they wander in. They're like, how many people are watching? Like, 136 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: oh my god, it's a good it's a good name 137 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: to bring up, because I think when you think like 138 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: two of the most you know, premier American everyman, you 139 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: think Tom Hanks and then rap Sheet like those guys, 140 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: I think that's probably true together, all right, anything else? 141 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: Do you want to share anything with our huge Don't 142 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: you have any news? The only thing I had I 143 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: put out this morning, you know, But it's like the 144 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,559 Speaker 1: dregs of the assistant coach world, you know, like coach 145 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: well You've saved a real gym for us. Thank you, 146 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: Tom capers has. Do you have anything planned though for Sunday? 147 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: You try to save some bomb drops for Super Bowls? 148 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if it would be a bomb drop. 149 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: It's tough. Supero week. We've got some stuff. Did you 150 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: ever get you ever come up with it? Like they 151 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: have the woad bombs in the NBA? Do we have 152 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: a we have a term? I kind of don't like that, 153 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: you know, okay? I rap sheet is your version of 154 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: the wold. You've got a brand. Well and you said 155 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: it all. Are you looking forward to the halftime show? Yeah, 156 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome. The only the only thing I'm 157 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: really looking forward to. I don't get stressed. I get 158 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: stressed a little bit about work, but not a ton. 159 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: By now I am nervous. I'm not going to get 160 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: any good pregame selfies. I have a really good streak going. 161 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: Me and Gaga got a great selfie usher, great one, 162 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Steph Curry, great one. If I don't get like snoop 163 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: or something, I'm gonna be like really bumped. Um like chef, 164 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: I could not hold your cell phone charge here, um, 165 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: Steph Curry knew who I was sure? I think? Did 166 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: he did? I met? I had a good moment. Did 167 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: he was? Because he was trying to buy the Panthers 168 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: when they really remember that like story little storyline though 169 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: that did not happen though, no alright, picked the game 170 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: before we take by uh Bengals win with the Joe 171 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: Burrow drive at the end. Uh Ricky Hollywood was on 172 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: the red carpet of the Honors yesterday and I couldn't 173 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: even get Mac Jones, Patriots quarterback, to pick a winner 174 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: of the game. My least favorite trope in any sports. 175 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: I was just talking to Kevin Clark, who had Herbert, 176 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: and he said, D asked Herbert, who's gonna win? He said, 177 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: the City of California. I'm glad we didn't ask. We 178 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: had Herbert too. It was a much better interview with us, 179 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: but he said the city of California. Oh, we gotta 180 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: scrub that from the public record. Alright. In best of 181 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: luck to you, buddy, good seeing you, Thanks for letting 182 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: me come on guys, goodbye. All right, there he goes 183 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: the Great rap Sheet, A busy man, always in demand. 184 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: And now we turn our attention. Let's get around applause, 185 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: and there he goes, Alright, great show today, we're gonna 186 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: get to the breakdown Bengals Ram Super Bowl fifty six. Mark. 187 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: What you've been with the NFL for well over a decade? Now, 188 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: what's your level of excitement going into the the big game? 189 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: Because I have to say one of the reasons why 190 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: I love my job is that I still love I 191 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: love the season, I love the the the story of 192 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: it all, and the story ends on Sunday night. I 193 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: think this is the most um that I've been looking 194 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: forward to the actual game in years and years, and 195 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: it's because of the Bengals and because of everything that 196 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: we've been through with that journey. I think it's just 197 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: one of the more intriguing NFL plot line slash narrative, 198 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: slash team ways to get here of any club I've 199 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: I can think back to. I mean, so, I'm my 200 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: excitement level is high. I don't need to be um. 201 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: When I leave downtown l A today will not be 202 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: returning to downtown l A for roughly seven and a 203 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: half years. Wow, Downtown in l A, great restaurants, Koreatown 204 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: taking like a big fire here. I think your players 205 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: say it's like it's like, once the love of the 206 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: game is gone, that's when I'll know it's time to 207 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: walk away. I think if you allowed to play, that's 208 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: another one. Sunday's super Moore. Sunday to me is never 209 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: is never remotely disappointing. The exciting, the excitement of being 210 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: at the stadium building up and the goose bumps you get, 211 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: and then once the game starts that's always amazing. The 212 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: week leading up to it, that's where our jaded side 213 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: shows somewhat, and you always find skipping ahead to the 214 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: game if you could, or if they just let us 215 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: fly in on Saturdays. I personally would do that, but 216 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: everyone is different. I've liked the home Super Bowl. I 217 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: like sleeping in my uh at home and seeing my 218 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: kids and stuff. It's made I didn't sleep not in 219 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: my bed because Emma has had him on the couch 220 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: for two years. You get home too late. It's like 221 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: now you're staying out there, stay together for the kids. 222 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: I like, I don't know, it's like I I it's 223 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: gone by faster at home, which I like it has. 224 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: I we don't need to do all this because it 225 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: is minusha ultimately, but I do. I love the whole 226 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: vibe of Super Bowl blo week. It's a little different 227 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: when like Daddy has to go coach the Gators on 228 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: Wednesday in the first baseball practice, Like it's a little 229 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: it's a little tricky to thread the needle. But we 230 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: have Ricky happy birthday once again. Thank you. You you 231 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: look wonderful. You're glowing for someone the morning after their 232 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: thirtieth birthday celebrated. I know, I feel like I've let 233 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: my personal sort of reputation slash brand down. So I 234 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: got many texts justin next to me, Aaron over there, 235 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, are you okay? How are you feeling? 236 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: Like everyone's calling the local more. Everyone's like, oh, Erica 237 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: definitely did not make it through the night, or she's 238 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: going to be looking like a hot mess this morning. 239 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: Like I feel really great. I kept it to just 240 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: wine last night. I had a great dinner. My little 241 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: baby brothers in town, U me Jett and him and 242 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: my friend Sarah, just the four of us went to dinner. 243 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: And because you know, I we had a big show 244 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: today and you look sharp. M I sense a higher 245 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: level of maturity emanating from you. Thank you. Yeah, I 246 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: feel just you had a Princess Leah style dress on 247 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: the red carpet, which umla oh the white Wait a second, 248 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: Wait a second, Princess when she's fighting the Jaba monster, 249 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: I know that outfit that wasn't white, the job monster. 250 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: That's me. Thus you I am Leah like that scene 251 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: that's not on, that's not she was like a brown outfit. 252 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: This was white. I don't know how to move Dan 253 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: off this because we we discussed it prior and he 254 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: cannot hear. You guys have been talking about my Princess 255 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: lea outfit like since yesterday. I don't know. The honors 256 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: is amazing. We started Connie was wearing a wild outfit. 257 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: Everyone was really dressed to the tease. Did you guys go? 258 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: I was at the NFL experience with my two sons, 259 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: my wife, my buddy Bob. They had a great time. Again, 260 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: usually on a Thursday night to be getting loose somewhere 261 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: at a super Bowl city, maybe I'd be out to 262 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: dinner with you, but I mean maybe certainly. Yeah, it 263 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: was very strange. I was at work because we taped 264 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: our show there and then I had a couple of 265 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: things after that, leaving and everyone from work like putting 266 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: up makeup in that like at their desk, and everyone 267 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: that you are normally working with wearing like beautiful gowns 268 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: and suits. And as I'm walking to my parking lot 269 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: and parked my car in the parking lot, like Zeke 270 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: Elliott is being dropped off looking all nice and everything. 271 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: It's very strange that was our workplace. But no, I 272 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: went to I got out of there. Well we went. 273 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: I like how gred he describes it as my parking lot. 274 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: It feels like I know, but there's there's people that 275 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: have access to that office, which is across the street 276 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: from Sofy Stadium, was certainly bustling. At one point I went, 277 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: I went into the like the dressing room area, and 278 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: there's baldy like looking literally like a Hercules character changing. 279 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: You have Nate burleson around the corners, Kyle Brand like 280 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: that's the shirt didn't come off around these gentlemen. These 281 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: were this. This was like a go change in shame 282 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: in the local laboratory. I'd be happy to I'd be 283 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: happy to go topless in the in that I'm very 284 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: proud of what I'm presenting. We all know, okay, just 285 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: lathering yourself up like that would be your number two. 286 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: Option Number one would be wearing the Princess Leia outfit. 287 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: You know, that would be like your biggest dream. What 288 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: was it? Like, really gotta get going, but I've always 289 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: wondered what's what's It was very um, it was very empowering. Yeah, 290 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: I felt pretty cool. I really liked it. I wasn't 291 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: sure if I could pull it off. It was a 292 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: little bit I needed a couple of confidence boots. I 293 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: was in the hair and makeup chair and the girls 294 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: were really gassing me up, being like you like bomb 295 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: af you gotta wear now NFL Honors that was you 296 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: were on that red carpet and we're gonna get to 297 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: all the award winners and the games, and our sandwich 298 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: props are game picks, uh, guest galore. It's a it's 299 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: a big show. Um. They did do a in memorium 300 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: section of the show and it was very nice and 301 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: also still surreal. H that Chris Westling um our man 302 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: who should be sitting next to Mark right now. Uh, 303 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: beautiful photo of him from the super Bowl in Minnesota. 304 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: I still remember for that photo when it was taken. 305 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: And also are great friend Tara Deaker, who we also 306 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: lost to cancer this year, so to see them as 307 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: part of that uh, goose bumps moment and still yeah, 308 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: still very strange, really is it was a surprise. I was. 309 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: I always think of, like, what would Chris think in 310 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: these scenarios, because it was like all these players that 311 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: he knew better than all of us. It was, you know, 312 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: these guys from the sixties and seventies. It was like 313 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer and certain in all these different players, and 314 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: I was thinking like, and then up comes Chris in Tara. 315 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: It was it was uncanny. And when things like that happened, 316 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: you just realize that it's just it's bigger than just 317 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: our friend that we lost our friend, that he's had 318 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: this sort of impact. I ran into someone on the 319 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: way into radio Road today. He's from Iceland. He's his 320 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: name is uh. I don't even know how to say 321 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: this name, but Irker Askas, and he works for a 322 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: television station. He works for a television station in Iceland. 323 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: He said he's here because of Chris, that he's a 324 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: die hard fan of the show, a die hard fan 325 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: of Chris. He's a fan of the Bengals. Normally, Iceland 326 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: would not be sending any coverage to the Super Bowl, 327 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: and when Bengals made it, he he's been following us. 328 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: He was a little emotional too and just saying that, 329 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: like I just felt like he'd the call, like if 330 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: ever I should be at a super Bowl, I need 331 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: to be at this super Bowl. So he started emailing 332 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: the people that he knew within the NFL offices. He 333 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: started pushing all the people at his icelandic TV station, 334 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: and he said he is here today because of because 335 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: of Chris. How cool is that? It's amazing? And we 336 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: get questions all the time, like how do you get 337 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: into sports? How do you get into football? And like 338 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: I think if anyone that looks at the journey that 339 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: West took from beginning to end, um, there's no one way. 340 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: And his way was as unique as anyone I've ever met. Absolutely, 341 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: we got to we celebrated Chris. This past weekend. We 342 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: were at Hanano's, the famous burger joint there in Venice, 343 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: where we spent many days and had many pictures and 344 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: great greasy burgers on that griddle. Sometimes if you use 345 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: a griddle enough at the griddle itself, I wish you 346 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: could taste this mark. I know you're not a meat guy, 347 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: but the flavor of those patties, um, it's just special. 348 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: But that was that was where we had so many 349 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: great moments with West. Also Deaker, who was such a 350 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: great woman and we miss her a lot too. That 351 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: was the last time we ever saw Deeker was at 352 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: Colleen's uh Dad's summit. Post the boat trip. We went 353 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: to Hanano's last spring and that ended up being the 354 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: last time we saw Deer. So that was It's been 355 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: an emotional roller coaster obviously, as we've talked about on 356 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: the show, and it was just nice to see both 357 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: of those special people remembered in such a public way. 358 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: I would add that I've had the grilled cheese there 359 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's not cooked on a pure um 360 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: that's basically a cheese burger exactly, So you know I've 361 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: been there to some degree. All right, let's uh speaking 362 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: of honors, that is the uh platform, that's the delivery 363 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: advice device, I should say, for the awards now, And 364 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: they moved at from Saturday, where it's always been as 365 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: long as we've been doing the show, to Thursday, which 366 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: helps us because I've always been a little frustrated as 367 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: the host of the show that they give out all 368 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: the awards on Saturday, the night before the Super Bowl. 369 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: We're talking Super Bowl Sunday, that we're taking a few 370 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: days off, and somehow these awards fall through the cracks 371 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: on the show. Not this year and hopefully not uh 372 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: any longer. So let's go through it. Not a lot 373 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: of surprises, Greggy, but let's I'm gonna tick through it. 374 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers one easily, m v p um. I believe 375 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 1: he got thirty nine votes. Yeah, Tom Brady got ten, 376 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: which actually was more. Thank you to those ten people. 377 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: I think that was the right vote. That was more 378 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: than I expected. And Cooper Cup got the other vote. 379 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup was not shut out, though he got Offensive 380 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: Player of the Year, not a surprise. And the rest 381 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: there's no real surprise to be found here. We have 382 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: t J. Watt Defensive Player of the Year, Jamaar Chase 383 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: took Offensive Rookie of the Year, of course. Mika Parsons, 384 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: Mica Mika Micah Parsons took Defensive Rookie of the Year. 385 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: Are a grave digger, grave digger, you've been laying low 386 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: ever since that Titans playoff loss. Let's be honest. He's 387 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: on the couch right now. We didn't set up a 388 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: microphone for him, but the digger comes. He is. This 389 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: is the first time he's on Mike since you know, 390 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: the middle of the playoffs, your boy, Mike Rabel. I 391 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: thought they did a good job at this because Rabel 392 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 1: took that team to another division time. I know it's 393 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: a soft division, but you know they won eleven games 394 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: and had so many injuries that they dealt with. Uh 395 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: and he just got a contract extension, so that's well, 396 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: it's well earned right for the Titans. I think he 397 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: was the the obvious candidate to win. Erica made a 398 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: nice bet with William mc ginnis as we were walking 399 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: over to the red carpet that he wouldn't win, and 400 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: then got to talk to Rabel about her bet on 401 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: the red carpet. That's cool. Yeah, where can we hear 402 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: all that stuff? Um? I don't know, Actually it's something 403 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: some of it will be on Greg show game debut. 404 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: There there um something there and it'll it'll be all over. 405 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, I bet Willie mcginnist my West Hollywood house 406 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: for his Long Beach mansion. That but you don't own 407 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: the house in West HOLLI but right, so he's but 408 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: he's getting my rental now, so he has to acquire 409 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: that monthly. Where where are you going to be relocating 410 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: to turn Willia into a slum lord? Yeah? Um? And 411 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: how are you justin that that that was a bitter 412 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: playoff loss to the Bengals? Uh? Did that one? That 413 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: must have hit your herd right in the belly. It 414 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 1: was a disappointing game when your team gets nine sacks 415 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: and loses. It's just how's that? Even Jeffrey Simmons was 416 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: a god and all those performances will just be lost 417 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: to like the ether. No one's ever going to talk 418 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: about Jeffrey Simmons getting three sacks in a playoff game, 419 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: like who cares they lost? It doesn't matter. Are the 420 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: Titans properly respected at this point by the football people 421 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: out there? I think, like the thing is like they 422 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: weren't that bad because they played a pretty good game 423 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: outside of the quarterback like three. I don't know that 424 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: when I rewatched that, and then I didn't think it 425 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: was as much on Tannehill as I did the first 426 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: time around. And they probably should have won that game 427 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: to Derrick Henry in forty minutes, right, But they didn't. 428 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: I think giving you know, I won't say this to 429 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry because I'm afraid of him, but giving the 430 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: ball to Derrick Henry over and over and over and 431 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: over and over again. Uh, and not having any success. 432 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: That was a pretty big part of the game, especially 433 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: when the backup running back had three runs that look 434 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: better than any of those runs. You're putting Tannehill in 435 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: a bad There was a lot of problems. There's a 436 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: lot of problems. We don't need to relitting that this game. 437 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: But he threw three picks. One was on the first 438 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: throw of the game that's set up the initial points, 439 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: the second ones when they're going in for a touchdown 440 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: that would have changed the game. And the third was 441 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: that basically sealed their fate. He was he was late, 442 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: it was rough. It was a terrible offensive performance. Is 443 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: everything is OK? Go ahead? I want you to share 444 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: that point. I just want to say that if you're 445 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna lose to a team, the Bengals were the team, 446 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm like, as a fan, I'm glad to 447 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: have lost to that team because I feel like there's 448 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: something really special about the Bengals and it's just good 449 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: very noble of you. Now, strict parameters were laid out 450 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: privately or publicly. I believe by Grave Digger about his 451 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: personal life and what we can and cannot talk about it. 452 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: So I won't ask about you know, the thing I 453 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: saw her last night at honors, that tible rider as 454 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: a date I did do I have to redact that 455 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: she's moving into her own apartment. This is apartment of 456 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: the future. This is rapidly moving forward here. Well, we're 457 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: not allowed to talk about it, but it seems like 458 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: not everything is bad for grave Digger. Not everything all right? 459 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: There he goes play him out, Ricky. That'll help a 460 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: playoff plus. But she was all dressed up to she 461 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: looked nice. She looked real nice, real good. It's a 462 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: good job, I Grave Digger. They listen. There's some hurdles, 463 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: there's some barbed wire, but you just you throw an 464 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: old coat over the barbed wire and you get over 465 00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: the fence. All right, Anyway, what is this show about today? 466 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: Coach of the Year, Frable, Comeback Player of the Year, 467 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow beats Stack. Some people a little bit surprised, 468 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: but everybody calmed down. Deck was okay this year. That 469 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: was clear that was that was the one chance for 470 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: injustice happening, and I'm glad that's good. And then the 471 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: Walter Walter Payton Man of the Year award went to 472 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworthy, left tackle that his speech, by the way, 473 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: I thought was one of the best moments of the 474 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: night where he talked about Derek Barnes from the Lions 475 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: ran up to him after they played Detroit and was 476 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: like he threw Andrew witt Worth with Worth off after 477 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: the game. He's like, I just want to know that 478 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: You'll let you know that when I was a kid 479 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: at the Boys and Girls Club, you used to sit 480 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: down and talk to me and tell me that anything 481 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: was possible. And I'm here because of you. And like, 482 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: Whitworth is one of the best dudes in the league. 483 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: And I thought he nailed that speech. Very oldest tackle 484 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: in NFL history, still one of the best players in 485 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: the league at his position. That that was an an 486 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: awesome moment. And you do realize, like how much these 487 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: awards do mean to the guys like you. You think 488 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: it's a team game and it's all about inins and losses. No, 489 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: like you could tell how much Amentum Mike raable. You 490 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: can definitely tell how much it means to Aaron Rodgers 491 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: to win a fourth m v P. I think that 492 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: was a goal for him. Wash his hair, that's how 493 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: important that right. You definitely are getting the vibe. But 494 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: from his postgame the post speech press conference too, that 495 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: he's going to be back in Green Bay. At least, 496 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: that's the vibe I got. And I think it's funny 497 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: that there's a post speech press conference, right, but it's 498 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: good that it's good it's been available, and I think 499 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: t J Watt was rightly rewarded for this three year run. 500 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if this was even his best year, 501 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: but he's kind of been outshine because he's going up, 502 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: going up against Aaron Donald every year, who's at the 503 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: peak of an all time greatest player every career. Chris 504 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: was so mad in nineteen that t J Watt did 505 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: not win. He thought that t J Watt should have. 506 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: I remember me and him going back and forth. I 507 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: thought it was Donald and this three year run is 508 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: is about as great as a pass rushers as anyone's had. 509 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: So he's a Donalds, a total stud. But this wasn't 510 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: one of those Donald work with they had twelve and 511 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: a half sacks um his usual assortment of knockdowns of 512 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback, but it wasn't one of those otherworldly Donald DearS, 513 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: at least statistically um. And it should be just historical 514 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: context before we start digging into the game. For Rogers, 515 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: he's won the m v P now two thousand eleven, 516 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, two thousand twenty, two thousand twenty one. 517 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: He's gone back to back, and I know the bloom 518 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: is off. The Rodgers rose because of some of the 519 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: assinine comments he made during the year and all the 520 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: appearances and then of course another one and done playoff oustair. 521 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I don't know how you 522 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: can get furious that he won MVP. He was awesome 523 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 1: again this year. You know, he was great and and 524 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: it is a regular season award. Ultimately, I think the 525 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: three guys that got the votes were all legitimate options, Brady, 526 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: Cup and Rogers. I would have voted Brady, but you 527 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: can minus Brady. But I with you that Rogers deserved 528 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: and they also a non SD the Hall of Fame 529 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: just quickly, guys, happy for Tony BASSELLI, Leroy Butler, Sam Mills, 530 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 1: Richard Seymour, Bryant, Young, Cliff Branch. They put an official 531 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame, Art McNally, I didn't know 532 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: that was coming. And then Dick ver Meal Seymour was 533 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: literally the best player on a Patriots team. That was 534 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: Joe Cleco in the Hall of Fame before we put 535 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: in a referee, and all due respect to that zebra, 536 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: But how don't we get Joe Cleco the only defender 537 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: to ever be All Pro at three different positions. So 538 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: my high school locker room outside where the football coach resided, 539 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: how did Joe Cleco letter? Joe Cleco had written the 540 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 1: type written um. I think was actually like one of 541 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: those tapped out things like a transmission for some reason 542 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: from George. Yeah, it was all it was. It seemed 543 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: almost military like, but I used to look at it 544 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: all the time. Joe clecka was a dominating force. Don't 545 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: forget Andrew beck Salute to Service award. I don't even 546 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: know what what's going on there, but nice job by him. Oh, 547 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's certainly worthy of I know you're trying 548 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: to make light of it, but I'm not. I'm looking 549 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: at the winners. We didn't mention that Andrew Beck won 550 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: thet You didn't mention the Fan of the Year or 551 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: like the ground and Pound FedEx Player, So it's you know, 552 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: there are some awards that get a little less. The 553 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: military matters to me, Greg, and that's why I mentioned it. 554 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: You can certainly find other areas in the NFL media 555 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: breakdowns of the FedEx Ground and Air Player of the Year. 556 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: We steer if you must, unless they pay us, if 557 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: fed Excellence to cut a check, we will play that 558 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: up harder than the m v P. That would be 559 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: the only thing we talk about. Jonathan Taylor, what a winner? 560 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: All right, let us um get into the overall discussion 561 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: of the big game. It is the Bengals, it is 562 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: the Rams. It is a matchup of two number four seeds. 563 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's ever happened before, has it? 564 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: Of all the data, no, Greg Digger shaking his head. No. 565 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: Uh So, this has been an unlikely journey, obviously more 566 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: so with Cincinnati. And I think one thing that's been 567 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: lost uh here, Greggy, is the Bengals are an incredible store. 568 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: I think they are going to be. In fact, we 569 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: know it to be true. They are I think the 570 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: team that most people want to win this game. Uh, 571 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: but the Rams. It's a great story in Los Angeles 572 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: to the Matthew Stafford angle. Um, this the rise of 573 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, a guy like Andrew Whitworth getting another crack, 574 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: the guy that played forever in Cincinnati by the way, 575 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: um Odell Beckham, Sean McVeigh getting a chance to, um, 576 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, exercise some demons after he kind of had 577 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: a letdown game in his first Super Bowl appearance. Like 578 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: these are major figures of the modern NFL on the 579 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: l A side of things. So it's just a great 580 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: set up for a game, right, I think it In 581 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: terms of your rooting interests, it's like you could either 582 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: root for the fan base and the story and the 583 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: magic of sports and underdogs and and that the Bengals 584 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: have all that, or or you can you're a fan 585 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: of the sport and you root for greatness. And the 586 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: Rams have three first ballot Hall of famers on their 587 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: defense alone, name of I mean, Von Miller is a 588 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl m VP, Aaron Donald is maybe the greatest 589 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: player of all time. And Jalen Ramsey I think is 590 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna get there. I mean he has to keep keep 591 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: knocking those out. But there's only three cornerbacks in the 592 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 1: history of the game that have made first team All 593 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: Pro three times in their first six years, and he 594 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: is He's one of those three. So so he's on 595 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: his way and a coach that took us by storm 596 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: when he came into the league. And I think, even 597 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: though I pick on his game management, sometime doesn't get 598 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: enough credit for all the stuff you don't see behind 599 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: the seams in terms of building that organization, coaching up coaches, 600 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: coaching up players, actually being a teacher. Like they are 601 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: one of the defining teams of the last five years. 602 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, you don't have to root for the owner 603 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: or the fan base, but in terms of just like 604 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: greatness and the players, and certainly throw oh b J 605 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup into that mix too, Like there there's 606 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: a lot to love and their their approach to how 607 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: they built this roster. I mean, the Rams do things differently, 608 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: and I think that they were a team that entered 609 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: this season with as much pressure on them and around 610 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: them and on Sean McVeigh and less sneat as any 611 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: team in the league because more on themselves in the 612 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: middle of the season with those moves. Absolutely, I mean 613 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: but they jelled, they've worked out, and I think it's 614 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: like instructive that there are a lot of different ways 615 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: to um construct a roster. And there's was about his 616 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: wild West gun slinging as you could find and here 617 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: they are. I think that's well put. I think the 618 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: if you are somebody who has been following our league 619 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: for years and watches NFL films properties like all or nothing, 620 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: they all are nothing season on the RAMS um when 621 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher was fired and he was waved holding a 622 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: little white dog and waving goodbye to the team. But 623 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: first ever, like emo NFL Films season, it was just 624 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: kind of sad and that and that and that was 625 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: a dreadful RAMS team. And the last episode of that 626 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: particular series was the introduction of Sean McVeigh and he's going, 627 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, being introduced um around on the team complex 628 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: and he you know, he seemed very sharp in that 629 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: in that brief cameo, and then he turned out to 630 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: be everything they could have ever wanted. And he has 631 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: built that program with less sneed there as well. Their 632 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: team building has been unorthodox but effective. And then yeah, 633 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: it's just like what we saw from Sean Payton in 634 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: New Orleans. How you could change that culture just by 635 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: having a really smart, dedicated football dude on the sideline 636 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: and behind the scenes. And I think McVeigh is such 637 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: a powerful figure, and yet Mark the Rams are not 638 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: the biggest story here. One of his disciples, Zach Taylor, 639 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: is the head coach of the Bengals, And on some level, 640 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: if you have to like talk about how this game 641 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: is gonna play out, you could see this as in 642 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: forty eight hours a coronation of Joe Burrow is one 643 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: of the biggest stars in America. Yeah, because Joe Burrow 644 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: is magic. He's magically there's something about him that you 645 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: look at the way these two teams sit right now 646 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: and kind of everything logically points to the Rams. They 647 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: have the better roster. I mean, the Bengals don't even 648 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: I would say the Bengals have like the fourth best 649 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: roster in the a f C, fifth or something. It's 650 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: like that, it's not what stands out about them. And 651 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: they've gotten here in a in a wonderfully um story 652 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: driven way, and they do have that angle to them. 653 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: But Joe Burrow kind of everything that you would say 654 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: against the Bengals, Joe Burrow kind of wipes it all 655 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: away because you just believe and what he what's capable 656 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow has not had the greatest games to 657 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: get here. They hasn't been They've been more of a 658 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: field goal offense in many ways, they have not completed drives. 659 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked as much about their field goal kicker. 660 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: I think Zach Taylor is under for eleven in the 661 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: red zone in the postseason. Yeah, I mean, it's just 662 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: that it hasn't been the explosive version of this offense 663 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: that they unfurled against a number of teams like the 664 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: Ravens and the Steelers in the regular season. I really 665 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: want to see what happens on early downs in this 666 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: game because I think that they've really pressed Zach Taylor 667 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: with you know, running the ball on first down. And 668 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't think you can be a Bengals team in 669 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: this game against the Rams where you're into obvious third 670 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: and long passing situations. This is a team that probably 671 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: is gonna have to go for it on fourth down 672 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: in some situations where others would not um pedal, foot 673 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: on the pedal, hyper aggressive and that's on Zach Taylor, 674 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: who you know, Sean mcveighs under an think more pressure 675 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: in this game. We don't really know that much about 676 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor. Still at this point, he's gonna have to 677 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 1: show us that he can basically put this offense into 678 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: hyper drive. I I really wonder. I think that's the 679 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: question of the game of how aggressive they'll be, because 680 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: it's funny they come from the same coaching tree and 681 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: yet neither of these teams look like Rams at all. 682 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: Like how much are the Bengal Is gonna go out 683 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: of empty because that's what Joe Burrow does best, and 684 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: that's where he's most comfortable. Against the Titans, they did 685 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: at the whole game, and he got sacked nine times. 686 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: Against the Chiefs, they barely did it at all. It 687 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: was hyper conservative, six seven man offensive lines that didn't 688 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: work that well either. Now you're going against the best 689 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: pass rush that you've face. I think the Rams are 690 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: even better than than the Titans, that they're good throughout, 691 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: and there there's like no right answer. But when you 692 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: think of like the outside zone of what Todd Gurley 693 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: was doing in eighteen and in CJ. Anderson, and then 694 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: you think of the play action and and Zach Taylor's 695 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: on that steps like that's not here for either one 696 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: of these teams. It's very different. And I think ultimately 697 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals, to your point, Mark, are gonna have to 698 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: kind of just put the ball into Burrows hands because 699 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be able to run that 700 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 1: well against the Rams. Anyways. The Rams just shut down 701 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: the forty niners in that outside zone, so they've seen 702 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: a much better version of it. They just shut down 703 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, and they're running game like as good as 704 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: von Miller and Leonard Floyd are rushing the pastor they're 705 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: better stopping the run. I think it's gonna have to 706 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: be creative, but it's also gonna have to be very 707 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: past first, and that's like a high risk reward scenario, 708 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: and I think that's where they're at. But in their 709 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: you could say, well, Angles have this potential generational quarterback. 710 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: He's like the new name of just let him throw 711 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: it forty times and carry the victory. I don't know, 712 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: that's not what you're saying. It's not that simple, but 713 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: it's almost like the big mismatch in this game and 714 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 1: how the game gets wrecked potentially for everyone that wants 715 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: a Cincinnati fairytale is that they're not gonna be able 716 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: to protect Burrow. And if you it would take another 717 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,280 Speaker 1: worldly performance by an offensive line that is not very good. 718 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: It is especially um vulnerable in the middle and you 719 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: and you just wonder if as much as they want 720 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: to say, let Joe cook here, they're gonna know, like, 721 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 1: we need to mix things up. We can't have these 722 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: We can have Von Miller and Leonard Florid Aaron Donald 723 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: pinning back their ears knowing that this team is just 724 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: going to be a pass happy offense for four quarters. 725 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,399 Speaker 1: I wonder if that has to be more balanced game plan. 726 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,360 Speaker 1: And maybe that's why it was against the Chiefs, because 727 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: they don't trust their offensive line to pass protect right. 728 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: And they were I don'tn't even say they were balanced 729 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. They were conservative. They were set sometimes 730 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: eight man on eight guys on the offensive line. They 731 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: were so afraid. And yeah, they they don't think they 732 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: could protect Burrow. But I think you can throw the 733 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: ball quickly and that's it. I mean, he also only 734 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: got sacked one times against the Chiefs. I think both 735 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: of these defensive coordinators are gonna play as conservative as 736 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 1: humanly possible. They're gonna back up and they're gonna give 737 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: up five yard throws to some a J. P. Ryan 738 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: and mixing and slants over the middle, assuming Zama can 739 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: play in this game to Azama and Tyler Boyd. And 740 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: it's a lot of Joe Burrow just getting rid of 741 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: the ball and maybe that's not really that fun and 742 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: at some point he's gonna hold the ball and make 743 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: the first guy or two miss, But I think it's 744 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 1: a lot of short passing and that that's the way 745 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: that they can do this. Yeah, I think, like to 746 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: Greg to your point, like this rams front versus the line, 747 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: because it's like we typically spend um two days preparing 748 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 1: and talking about sixteen games, but it's like all this 749 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: this has been two weeks talking about one and the 750 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: Bengals offensive line seems to be the huge X factors. 751 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: There's just no way around it. I mean, I know 752 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: the Titans game happened in this gape that the nine 753 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: sacks scenario, but in the five other games where teams 754 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: compiled five or more sacks against the Bengals, they were 755 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: one and four, and it did change what Burrow was 756 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: able to do and and how quickly is to get 757 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: rid of the ball and like a chemo Dnity and 758 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: Isaiah Prince on the right side. I mean, you could 759 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: just stack Aaron Donald von Miller, Greg Gaines on that 760 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: side and n Robinson. I know, it's like completely different. 761 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: We're all supposed to like love Zach Taylor and he's 762 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: done a good job. But if you wanted to criticize Active, 763 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: the number one thing is they haven't fixed the offensive line. 764 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: It's not really any better than a year ago. And 765 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: a lot of it I think it is game planning 766 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: and coaching that they haven't come up with ways like that, 767 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: the same sort of communication problems. When you watch the 768 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: coaches film and stuff, a lot of it is just 769 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: guys don't know what to do, that they're not cohesive. 770 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: Two guys are blocking one while another guy's just coming 771 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: in free. And we talked about and we've talked about 772 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: the nine sex in the divisional round and he was 773 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: only sack Burrow one time in the a f C 774 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: title game. But that doesn't mean like he was sitting 775 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: back there all day. He the reason, one of the 776 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: main reasons they pulled off that incredible comeback was his escapability. 777 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 1: That he was able to dodge pressure, pick up huge 778 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: first downs with his legs. Now Here's here's one thing. 779 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 1: The Chiefs weren't known as a pass rushing team. Is 780 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: he gonna be able to scrambles effectively an escape when 781 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: you have Aaron Donald prominently involved, that von Miller who's 782 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,959 Speaker 1: playing at a prime level, he's crankked back the clock. 783 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: And Leonard Floyd who hasn't done as much in the 784 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: playoffs but still as a presence, who's had two weeks 785 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: off to get his body right. I mean that is 786 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 1: it's that's the game to me, Like, how does Burrow 787 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: handle that? Now, these teams don't Neither team is gonna 788 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: be blitzing a lot, as we understand if you look 789 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: at like their traits and the fact that Stafford, Stafford 790 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 1: and Burrow both light up the blitz. So this is 791 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: gonna be like does the natural pass rush of the 792 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,439 Speaker 1: Rams rec havoc on the game? It's the only way, Greg, 793 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: I think the Rams this turns into everyone is everyone's 794 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: predict ding. You know, a game that's anywhere between a 795 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: one and four point finish in terms of margin. The 796 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 1: only way this thing's go sideways If Cincinnati has a 797 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: wretched game and Burrow starts throwing it up for grabs 798 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: and bad things happen. Right, It's testing Joe burrows superpower 799 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: to the end degree. His superpower is his pocket movement. 800 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 1: It was the first game of his career and it 801 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: is now. It's him not worrying about that first pass rusher, 802 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: moving subtly and making it happen. I sort of disagree. 803 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,240 Speaker 1: I either think the Bengals are gonna win this game 804 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: in a come back and it'll be close, or the 805 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,879 Speaker 1: Rams win convincingly. I I sort of t I kind 806 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: of trusted, right, That's what I I mean in terms 807 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: of like predicting the game being one to four, it 808 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. Those feel like the two outcomes. I 809 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: I like the Bengals in a spot where they keep 810 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: it close enough and it ends up coming down to 811 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: the end. And you and you do have some mismatches. 812 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: You have Jamaar Chase can beat Jalen Ramsey on a 813 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 1: go ball, Like if if Jalen Ramsey has a weakness 814 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: that it like Tee Higgins against Darius Wims, that's a 815 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: huge size of mismatch. Like this secondary for the Rams 816 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 1: has has been good, but I think you can still 817 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: go after their safeties and like it could happen or 818 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: or what you're saying, it's true and it's there, just 819 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: overwhelming and it looks like last year's Super Bowl, except 820 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: that's what playing the role the chief because when we 821 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: were sitting well, we weren't on radio role last year 822 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: because there was a like a disease that ruled um. 823 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: But that was as much as we were talking about 824 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: how injuries were a thing for the Chiefs on their line, 825 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: and their line was a question mark. Nobody could have 826 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: predicted what would happen when the when the stakes were 827 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,919 Speaker 1: at their highest. The Bucks just took over that game 828 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: in the trenches and turned it into just they just 829 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: abused Patrick Mahomes. That can happen here, and I think 830 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: the I think with the Rams, that's where I see 831 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: obviously the mismatch, you have it there and uh, if 832 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 1: they can win that battle, things are very different now 833 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball for the Rams, 834 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: they're they're arry interesting team. I think they are. They 835 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,439 Speaker 1: ranked in the league uh in the regular season from 836 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: a rushing perspective that has not gotten better in the playoffs. 837 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: In fact, cam Akers came back from the Achilles and 838 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: it's a great story, but he's averaging two point seven 839 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: yards per carry. He had two wretched fumbles that almost 840 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: ruined their season the divisional playoffs. Um, maybe Darryl Henderson 841 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: and Sony Michelle give them something the super Bowl. But 842 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: a lot is gonna be on Stafford's shoulders here. And 843 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: there's nothing mark that we've seen in the last three 844 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: weeks of football to tell us that he won't answer 845 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: the bell. But he's also throwing some balls up for grabs. 846 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: Jaquis Tart, how are you doing? But literally, how are 847 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: you pale? If you're listening? Um, So there will be 848 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: opportunities for Cincinnati even if Stafford continues to play at 849 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: this level. Yeah, I mean the Bengals have only lost 850 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: two games all year. Wasn't we keep on? Like I 851 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 1: was on Sky Sports this morning and they had the 852 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: Tart replay and starts like driving down the I five 853 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 1: today to go get a coffee. The hair you know 854 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: it's sunny out that you know, climate change is made 855 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: eighty degrees in the Bay Area. And then he's listened 856 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: to his favorite podcast and suddenly Dan just drops a 857 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 1: hammer on him and his very he has never listened 858 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: to this show in his life, the climate change a 859 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: little you know, dig in there too interesting, getting political? Mark, 860 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: I know you threw your arms up. Listen. It's a 861 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,359 Speaker 1: conversational show sometimes what things happen. I did, Yes, you did. 862 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: I I apologize. I want I thought I wanted to 863 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: extend the Tart conversation a little bit more. Be my guest. 864 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean I I'm at the point now where like 865 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: if this has felt like a four hundred day week, 866 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: I want to be taken out of here by ambulance. 867 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: Um uh yeah. I think that the Stafford mistakes. Stafford 868 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,720 Speaker 1: mistakes are a key because I mean, when they've melted 869 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 1: down and it's been a while, because he's been rather 870 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: pristine in the playoffs, and I kind of believe that 871 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: this Rams team that you know, you added pieces, you 872 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: added O b J. They've gone through some ups and 873 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: downs in terms of jelling, but now they're here and 874 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: the only thing that concerns me about the Rams is, 875 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, Sean McBey talked about the two week period 876 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: before that Patriots Super Bowl that he started to get 877 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: into a mode of overthinking that they got way too 878 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: tight preparing for that game. In that game itself, and 879 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: what concerns me is that if they had one of 880 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: these scenarios where Stafford makes early mistakes and the Bengals 881 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 1: are loose and feeling themselves, do you get the tight 882 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: version of the Rams, which we've seen a couple of 883 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: times they've been blown out in the in those scenarios. 884 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: They absolutely have And so it's like, I, I, you know, 885 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals. What I was going to mention was they've 886 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 1: only lost two games by seven or more points, so 887 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,480 Speaker 1: they're not a team that, um, I think will get 888 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 1: blown out. I just don't see that in this situation. 889 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: I mean, other than the game they didn't play their 890 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: starters as much as we see. It's a talent mismatch 891 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: in theory. The Bengals just beat the Chiefs twice in 892 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: the biggest two games of the year in a row, 893 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: and they beat the Titans. Like, I don't care how 894 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,919 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like this is a bit different. I'm 895 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: just saying, uh, in their biggest games of the year, 896 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: here's what they did. They put a forty burger on 897 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens. They beat the Chiefs to win the division, 898 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,279 Speaker 1: and then they just rolled through the a f C. 899 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: And I know they haven't won these games, like incredibly convincingly, 900 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: but they beat the one seed, they beat the Chiefs 901 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,319 Speaker 1: two times. It's like I at this point, whatever it 902 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: is that they're doing, it's working, and I think it's defensively. 903 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: It can start on the outside of their pass rush 904 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 1: Hendrickson and Hubbard against Whitworth and Havenstein, and that actually 905 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: is the strength on strength. It's the strength of the 906 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: Rams offensive lines certainly. But Whitworth was coming back from 907 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,919 Speaker 1: an injury. He's now gotten a couple of weeks to rest. 908 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: I think that's a plus. He was not the same 909 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship. He had a rough game of it, 910 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: and he was playing against a great opponent in Fort 911 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: nick Bos forty. But this if if Hubbard and Hendrickson 912 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: can have a game and they don't come off the field, 913 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: So I think the extra week is good for them 914 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 1: to they just stay on the field. They're gonna play 915 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: every single down and it's gonna be up to those 916 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: two guys if they can get some pressure on Stafford. 917 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: Because you're right, Dan, to your point about Stafford versus 918 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: the Blitz. Staff it's good right now versus any everything. 919 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: But he's especially good versus the Blitz. They're gonna need this. 920 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: He is the highest grade against the blitz of anyone 921 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: in the next gen stats era. So I don't think 922 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,359 Speaker 1: that's you know, that's not a deficiency on any level. 923 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: It's the opposite. I want to dig in a little 924 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: bit deeper on the matchups here um and talk about 925 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,319 Speaker 1: the number two, number two wide receiver on ball teams, 926 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,959 Speaker 1: the number two cornerbacks on ball teams, because I think, 927 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: obviously and I think it's gonna be so exciting to 928 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 1: see it. Cooper Cup having an all time season, He's 929 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: over two thousand yards now regular season in playoffs, I 930 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,879 Speaker 1: think he's closing on like two hundred yards or something 931 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: insane like that. And then on the other side, Jamaar 932 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: Chase and those guys are gonna eat. We know they are. 933 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 1: But what does te Higgins do, especially if he is 934 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: lined up against Darius Williams, who is a guy who 935 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 1: is surrendered a passer rating near one hundred and it's 936 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: not at an interception all season. Then you look on 937 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: the other side of the field and there's Odell Beckham, 938 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: and Odell Beckham is coming off his best game as 939 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 1: a RAM and guess what Odell Beckham could see a 940 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: lot of coverage against Eli Apple, who is the very 941 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: definition of a journeyman cornerback. These are mismatches now. Jalen 942 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,879 Speaker 1: Ramsey is an interesting guy in this all this too. 943 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: He's the best defensive player uh in either secondary and 944 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: who does Jalen Ramsey cover. He could end up covering 945 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,919 Speaker 1: both the top two receivers for the Bengals. But either way, 946 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 1: one of those guys is going to have a matchup advantage, 947 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: and if the qbs on each side have a chance 948 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: to tear up those mismatches, that could change the game 949 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: as well. It's been interesting to see how they've used 950 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 1: Ramsey in the playoffs. It's been totally different than the 951 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: rest of the time he's been with the Rams. He's 952 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: been an outside corner again, he's been what he was 953 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. The whole idea with Ramsey and l A 954 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 1: was like, we're gonna play him in the slot and 955 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: that way he impacts the running game and he's in 956 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,240 Speaker 1: the mix and and everyone who was getting all worried 957 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: worked up about that. That That hasn't been the case in 958 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,799 Speaker 1: the playoffs. He traveled with Mike Evans, but he was 959 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: also on the outside against the Bucks and the Cardinals, 960 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: it's kind of been a sea change. I think it's 961 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,839 Speaker 1: Rheem Morris, who's had a great playoff run, by the way, 962 00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten a lot of pop for it like that, 963 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,719 Speaker 1: and if Championship he was great. Yeah, I think it's 964 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: really it's like, hey, let's just use Ramsey for the 965 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,760 Speaker 1: thing he's best at. And to me, that's just following 966 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase around. It's not being in the middle and 967 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 1: trying to stop seven yard catches by Tyler Boyd. I 968 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: think I think you'll see that sort of matchup and 969 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: you'll see Stafford lean on what I think he's done 970 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: so well here, which is make the whole read go 971 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: through his progressions, get to his second and third guy, 972 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: get to oh b J. It's weird because Stafford I 973 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: felt was like overrated compared to his numbers throughout the 974 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,839 Speaker 1: course of the regular season and in the playoffs, he's 975 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,840 Speaker 1: been almost underrated. He's been the best quarterback in the playoffs, 976 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 1: um along with Josh Allen. Like I guess he's not 977 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 1: like at that that that insane level, but his three 978 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: game stretch is easily better than any three games stretch 979 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: that he had during the course of the regular season. 980 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: I think the next factor is Joe Mixon in the 981 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: receiving game, because if you've got this scenario with Jalen Ramsey, 982 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, pressure on Burrow, the results 983 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: of that could take away the chance for deep shot. 984 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: It might be more than We've seen a lot of 985 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: yards after the catch from Bengals receivers number one, but 986 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 1: mixing has you know, the run game has not been 987 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 1: dominant on any level, but he has been very effective 988 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 1: catching the ball, and I think you can match him 989 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: up against some of these Rams linebackers and make some 990 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: hay there. Um. I want to talk also about the 991 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: Cincinnati strategy here on defense because they were able to 992 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: save their season. I think Lua and a Rumo guy 993 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,320 Speaker 1: who started uh this season all back in the summer. 994 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: You know, we had some fun with lou and we 995 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 1: had some fun with the Bengals in a lot of ways. Um, 996 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: just as they were kind of a no name, no 997 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: name staff and Zach Taylor, what is he gonna show something? Well, 998 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: all these guys have showed something. Their ability to transition 999 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: and find a way to slow down Kansas City is 1000 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: to me like the craziest thing that happened in these playoffs. 1001 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,919 Speaker 1: I still can't believe it happened, uh, even a couple 1002 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: of weeks later. And will they will they try to 1003 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 1: replicate that formula against Stafford, which is a lot of 1004 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 1: three man rushes. You drop a ton of guys into coverage, 1005 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: and you try to close up the lanes for Stafford, 1006 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: because again, Stafford, even in this great playoff run, he's 1007 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,320 Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball up every once in a while. 1008 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: There is there's a scenario I could see where he 1009 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,040 Speaker 1: could struggle with that type of defense. And look how 1010 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: they got here because they had that big interception against 1011 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,640 Speaker 1: Derek Carr in the wild card game. Obviously they unspooled 1012 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: the Titans with the three interceptions. I thought that to 1013 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 1: stop against the Chiefs right before halftime, cause psychological damage 1014 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: to that offense and put Patrick Mahomes into a strange place. 1015 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,879 Speaker 1: I mean, we keep talking about Joe Burrow. They've won 1016 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: three playoff games by thirteen points and it's been the turnover, 1017 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,400 Speaker 1: so you almost offense, it's been the defense. You almost 1018 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: have to project a Bengals win including a Matthew Stafford 1019 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: interception or fumble recovery or something. They play so hard 1020 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 1: on defense. I think that's they play a pretty simplified 1021 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: defense where they're not going to try to confuse you, 1022 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: and and you get guys who are cohesive who communicate 1023 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: that play at the end of the first half you 1024 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 1: mentioned Mark, When I rewatched that, I realized, like, actually, 1025 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: that wasn't a bad read by Mahomes at all. Tyreek 1026 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: Hill had leverage when he threw the ball. Eli Apple 1027 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: just made a play. Eli Apple made a play. Jesse 1028 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: Bates made a play on that interception, and overtime their 1029 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 1: defense has been stepping up. And I think to what 1030 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: I mentioned sort of when we started this talk that 1031 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor knowing Sean McVeigh and just watching how the Ram, 1032 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna just beg the Rams to run. And I 1033 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: don't know in that in that place to the Bengals weakness. 1034 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: They're a bad run defense and they're a good past defense. 1035 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: And yet I think they are going to do some 1036 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: of that which light boxes and all that stuff, and 1037 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 1: just say, if you want to beat us trying to, 1038 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, run six yards at a time, you probably 1039 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: could do it. And that's what we'll ask you to do. 1040 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,439 Speaker 1: And I think Sean McVeigh will be very tempted because 1041 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,839 Speaker 1: that's sort of what he is. Uh. And I think 1042 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,960 Speaker 1: the Bengals want to just get to keep that game close, 1043 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,879 Speaker 1: and I think that's like the way they can win. 1044 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 1: All right, So there you go, there's a deep dive 1045 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 1: on the game. We got so much more to get 1046 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: to here. But why don't we take a little break 1047 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: from chopping up Super Bowl fifty six to welcome in 1048 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: a big time guest. Let's do it. Ricky alright joining 1049 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: us now. I said we had big guests, and we 1050 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: got a superstar in our Mythsty is the running back 1051 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Titans, Derrick Henry. Welcome to the Around 1052 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Thank you for having me. Good good. 1053 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry joins us today reminding you to try new 1054 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 1: Old Spice Gentleman's Blend deodorance and body washes crafted to 1055 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: be gentle on skin with ridiculously long lasting freshness. You 1056 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 1: could buy Old Spice Gentleman's Blend in stores. Now did 1057 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: you get all that really things coming from out of 1058 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,479 Speaker 1: your mouth? I I'm an old spiceman going back to 1059 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: my father, Derrick Henry, how are you sorry, we know 1060 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:04,920 Speaker 1: we Uh coming off season, that was another division title. 1061 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,719 Speaker 1: You had the unfortunate foot injury. You made it back 1062 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 1: for the playoffs. Uh didn't go the way you wanted. 1063 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 1: And now that team is in the super Bowl. You're 1064 00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: gonna watch the game. Yeah, I'll watch the game. Is 1065 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,439 Speaker 1: it is there more of a frustration when you see 1066 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 1: the team that took you out in January playing or 1067 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: is it you're kind of really frustration with the team, 1068 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,400 Speaker 1: but you know, frustration with how we played in and yourself. 1069 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they were just a better team. You can't 1070 00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: be frustrated with him. You're watching from home or you 1071 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 1: go you go into the game. I'll watch him home. 1072 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,959 Speaker 1: Ain't go into the game when you're watching the game 1073 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: with like just regular citizens and you see and know 1074 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: so much more about what you're observing. Is that? How 1075 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,239 Speaker 1: is that? Do you know? It's just hard not to 1076 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: un unleashed tons of knowledge on people about what you're watching. Yeah, 1077 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 1: sometimes you might have to because this get outrageous sometimes, 1078 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,720 Speaker 1: but most of the time you just sit there and laughing. 1079 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: You're still in tuning with the game. You just just 1080 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: watch the game. But if you hear something outrageous, is like, what, 1081 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,879 Speaker 1: well I was gonna say, because then there's the other thing, 1082 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 1: like sometimes you have to educate people who might not 1083 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: know what they're talking about, but then they're like, oh, 1084 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,319 Speaker 1: there's Derrick Henry. I'm gonna try to sound like I 1085 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, and then they don't. Do 1086 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,040 Speaker 1: you just keep that to yourself, you'd be like, actually, bro, 1087 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,280 Speaker 1: check yourself. That was a zone. You're not even plugged 1088 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 1: in on the game at all. On the bank, Do 1089 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 1: you feel guilty at all just for outshining us so 1090 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: much with your sneakers? I just it's hard for me 1091 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 1: to not just stare at these Louis Vuitton sneakers. I've 1092 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,839 Speaker 1: never seen anything quite Greg. Greg fancies himself no, not now, 1093 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: not not at all compared to that. His nickname is 1094 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: sneaker Head. Okay, what is that you got, like the 1095 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 1: crazy closet with seven thousand pairs of shoes? Do you do? 1096 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: Is this like a week where you're going around I 1097 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 1: don't know if you're going to any No, that's where 1098 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: I'm going nightlife and everything. And you've seen a lot 1099 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 1: of other players around where it's a little bit of 1100 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 1: you checking out what the other guys have you're trying 1101 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 1: to outshine them, well not really all shine him, that 1102 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: feel like I so, um, let's see what they what 1103 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,839 Speaker 1: they're coming with, you know, if I need to stuff 1104 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,080 Speaker 1: about game a little bit. But but yeah, I'm always 1105 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 1: checking out fashion. A love fashion and love shoes and 1106 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of them. What about Joe Burrow? 1107 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: Because usually quarterbacks, you know, a lot of them are 1108 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 1: a little buttoned up and they they don't like, like 1109 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: you said, drippy, They don't like to do the swag thing. 1110 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 1: And yet he he's all about it. Now Tannehill your quarterback, 1111 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm missing it. He doesn't seem to go 1112 00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 1: down that same path. Is there is there a drippiness 1113 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: to Bryan Tannehill? Uh? Yeah, Tannehill be dripping Sometimes you 1114 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,920 Speaker 1: come in to lock around and like, okay, I see you. 1115 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,200 Speaker 1: How important is that? Like is the guys really uh 1116 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: is everyone really plugged in in terms of like trying 1117 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 1: to one up each other? Like how big a part 1118 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: of that is that within the NFL sphere? Um? Uh, 1119 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 1: It's It's funny because you know some guys, you know, 1120 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 1: they really you know, like like to look good and um, 1121 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 1: you know pull it to the game fresh, and some 1122 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: guys are like, man, put some sweat song, let's go 1123 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,879 Speaker 1: play football. But you you usually know the guys who 1124 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 1: usually bringing each and every week and you look look 1125 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 1: forward to seeing what they what they have on when 1126 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:20,240 Speaker 1: you so, Mike Rabel wins Coach of the Year. Very deserving. 1127 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 1: He was definitely someone that we thought was did an 1128 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 1: incredible job with that roster that went through so much. 1129 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 1: Do you do you like, do you have text threads 1130 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:29,799 Speaker 1: with him? And are you texting him or do you 1131 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 1: do you feel pressure to call him up on the 1132 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: phone when he does that or do you guys a 1133 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: little more radio silence in the off season? Oh no, 1134 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 1: I text him last night and UM, total congratulations. I 1135 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,839 Speaker 1: was actually sitting in front of him, UM during the show. 1136 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: I text him last night and UM, total congrats. Um. 1137 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 1: He definitely deserved it, like you said, with everything that 1138 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 1: went on this year and what what what he was 1139 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: able to do. Um, with him and the coaching staff 1140 00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: and with everything how and how they played, and um, 1141 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 1: you know, it was definitely cool and to see him 1142 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: get the award. Is he funny behind the scenes or 1143 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 1: is he very serious? Man can be funny, but he 1144 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: could be serious, but he's funny too. I wouldn't want 1145 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 1: to make him mad. He feels like he would be funny, 1146 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: but when he'd be funny, he might be kind of cutting. 1147 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,359 Speaker 1: Like he does. He ever take people down a little 1148 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 1: bit when he's showing, uh, maybe players that weren't so 1149 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: great from Sunday and he's just making fun of the 1150 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: players in front of everyone. Uh No, I mean that 1151 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: they're not a circle. Greg. You don't get that answer. 1152 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: That just comes with the territory. I mean, when you 1153 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,520 Speaker 1: play a game on Monday, you gotta go watch the 1154 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 1: film and um, you know, see what you did and 1155 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: what you need to do, what you need, what you 1156 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 1: need to do better. But I always tell him, I'm like, man, 1157 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: I wish you put them past him. Yeah. Yeah, I 1158 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: just assumed, like Rabel, you know, he's a Patriots guy 1159 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,919 Speaker 1: at heart, And I always assumed, like anybody that comes 1160 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: out of that building, they have a sense of humor 1161 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 1: just scrubbed out of them until there's just no personality anymore. 1162 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 1: Back Jones, their quarterback, was on the red carpet for 1163 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: honors yesterday, and our producer Erica asked him who wins 1164 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 1: the game? And he goes as I don't want to 1165 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: say we personality is important, Derrick Henry. We need more 1166 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,959 Speaker 1: of that, don't we. Yeah, I mean you you gotta 1167 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: have a personality. I feel like that brings you more opportunities. 1168 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 1: You know, and people see old school you really are 1169 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 1: old spice and things like that. But you know that 1170 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: that patriot, that patriotarch can sneak up, you know a 1171 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, if you're being around it for 1172 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 1: a long time. One old spice question, like do players 1173 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: put on deodorant before a game or do you want 1174 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,320 Speaker 1: do you want to maybe smell as bad as possible 1175 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 1: to keep up keep people away from you. I know 1176 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 1: I want to smell good before a game, But some 1177 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,680 Speaker 1: people have different strategies, you know. It makes it so funny, 1178 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: Like some players take a whole shower for a game. 1179 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, you've been a shower to get right, What 1180 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,160 Speaker 1: is the point of that? I agree? Also, if they 1181 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:48,439 Speaker 1: go down this road, let's just go down the road, 1182 00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: because you like, like Tony Saragosa tells stories about guys 1183 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 1: that like, don't even go to the bathroom. They gotta 1184 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,200 Speaker 1: go to the bathroom. They just right there. They don't 1185 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,480 Speaker 1: even go back to the locker room. Is that the 1186 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,439 Speaker 1: thing in your ut I really don't know. I don't 1187 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 1: want to know if you Pete or getting the betune 1188 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: yourself at all. You keep that between yourself and who 1189 00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: who are we playing against? But Olde can save that. 1190 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: Everybody has crazy. I mean you, you would be surprised 1191 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: in the crazy stories that you hear. What guys do 1192 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,160 Speaker 1: this strategy wise? As far as game days, everybody's different, Derek. 1193 00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: We've been on a journey with Titans fans this year 1194 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: just in general, and we've appreciated the team, but there 1195 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 1: were so many injuries there there was times when there 1196 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 1: was certainly doubt of like whether the Titans could keep winning. 1197 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: We we have a big time Titans fan here. He 1198 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 1: actually has a podcast. He's also a producer at the 1199 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: NFL Network, justin Graver here, and he he represents a 1200 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 1: group that I think come came after a lot of 1201 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 1: national media that they weren't getting enough respect throughout the year, 1202 00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 1: and I feel like the Titans fans they almost became 1203 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 1: a little annoying. What what is your relationship with the 1204 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: Titans fans? Do you think they they come too hard 1205 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: at us or you like them having your back that much. Yeah. Man, 1206 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: they just they profited about the team and it wanted 1207 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 1: to get the recognition. You know. You know usually we 1208 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 1: really we don't. I guess this is a small market. 1209 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: But and in the day, we love the unendowed mentality. 1210 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: You know, we don't need a recognition. We just try 1211 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: to go out there and play on Sundays or whatever 1212 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,440 Speaker 1: day wherever other day it is, and let that speak 1213 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: for ourselves. But you know, Titans really much recognitions. Y'all 1214 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,000 Speaker 1: know that you should we should share. Great for the 1215 01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,720 Speaker 1: nickname that you came up with for the Titans defense 1216 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: with Derek. Yeah, oh yes. What do you think of 1217 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,000 Speaker 1: the Tennessee tickle monsters as the nickname for the defensive line? 1218 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 1: I don't think nobody on the even line laughing at 1219 01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 1: all at home. Yeah, just you gotta drop that. It 1220 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to resonate with it with the You gotta 1221 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: read the rooms at the Big Jeff and Bud you 1222 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 1: called them tickle monsters. Don't see that? Gave it a 1223 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: shout out on Instagram. Big Jeff was very anti Jeff 1224 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: was so mad he nearly killed Joe Burrow in the playoffs. Jeff, 1225 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: before we let you go dark. I need to say, um, 1226 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 1: we love watching you play. You just turned twenty eight, 1227 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: you have prime years ahead of you. Do you think 1228 01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 1: maybe the Gravers Titans are giving you the ball too much? 1229 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 1: I know running back loves the rock, but these three 1230 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: hundred carry seasons, these four hundred touch seasons, should we 1231 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,480 Speaker 1: just dial it back so you have the juice in 1232 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 1: your mid thirties or are you different than everyone else anyway? Um? 1233 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:28,040 Speaker 1: I mean I had a fortune unfortunate injury this year. UM. 1234 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 1: I think it comes with the style of play, you know, 1235 01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: And um, I feel like as a game goes on, um, 1236 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 1: I just get stronger and I and I get into 1237 01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:45,640 Speaker 1: better rhythm, whether that's two carries or running backs, just 1238 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,200 Speaker 1: like come up to and be like, how do you 1239 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,640 Speaker 1: do this? Man? Because there aren't really a lot of 1240 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 1: running back There aren't any running backs literally in the 1241 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 1: last fifteen years. It's done anything like that. Yeah, they 1242 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 1: always be they always say something, um about about the 1243 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 1: areas you know, which you know in NFL. I mean, 1244 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna be sorry, your body's gonna be bande up 1245 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 1: a little bit. But it's about the recovery process each 1246 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 1: week to get your body filing right. So you can 1247 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 1: go out there performing. You just tell him like I'm 1248 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 1: tougher than you. Sorry, man, you just tell them asking 1249 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 1: like I'm just tougher than you. I guess I tell 1250 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: him it's all in the I don't know. I don't 1251 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: know if you're happy with your representation or not. But 1252 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 1: I just want to say I don't have any experience 1253 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 1: in the agent realm, but if I was your agent, 1254 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: I would build in massive escalators for every game that 1255 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,120 Speaker 1: was over thirty touches, like you want him to touch 1256 01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 1: about thirty times. Million dollars in week seven, two million 1257 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: in week eight. I'm just from there and there. What 1258 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 1: do you think that's not too bad, Derrick Henry, we'll 1259 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 1: talk business off, Mike. Thank you so much for joining us, 1260 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 1: and enjoy the rest of the radio road journey. Yes, sir, 1261 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 1: thank you, Derrick Henry. Give it up right up there, 1262 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 1: he goes Derrick Henry. They got a little weird, and uh, 1263 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it. I think sometimes 1264 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: you have to hit the hard hitting questions and I like, 1265 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,880 Speaker 1: I like getting weird with the you know, in these interviews, 1266 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,960 Speaker 1: it's been good. How did you did you feel a 1267 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 1: connection there? Um not? The same way I did with 1268 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. It was just special. There was a special occurrence. 1269 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a delightful guest and I'm glad 1270 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 1: that you know, Grave Digger could yeah, pashed out with 1271 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 1: a bit, comported himself. Well there and you got a 1272 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 1: photo his eye. Henry's eyes lit up when I mentioned 1273 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,400 Speaker 1: that you had the podcast and suddenly he was he 1274 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 1: was much happier to be here that. I think that's 1275 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,880 Speaker 1: where the correction was. It was between you two, so 1276 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,680 Speaker 1: you can't we can't be greedy about the connection stuff. 1277 01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 1: It's I'm a little bit. It was, and I appreciate 1278 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 1: you guys for greg thanks for saying all that, making 1279 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,200 Speaker 1: it known to the king who I was. I guess, yeah, 1280 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 1: although then you had to do them up on that. Yeah, 1281 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to know what a Titans player would think 1282 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 1: of he actually was. He almost had a visceral reaction. 1283 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: I think I think that should to be the ultimate decider. 1284 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: I know he's not on the defensive side of the ball, 1285 01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 1: but I agree. I think even my incredible video promoting 1286 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 1: the nickname is not enough to overcome down on this 1287 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 1: podcast in a big spot, in a big spot, all right, 1288 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 1: let's get into Oh yes, it's a tradition. Sandwich props. 1289 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Go get my lunch. Your monster, you tickle monster? What 1290 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:32,440 Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, tennessee tacko monster. Oh listen to that, 1291 01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:37,360 Speaker 1: uh marker, miso miso. Phony must be really triggered. I 1292 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,439 Speaker 1: do not like that sound. I never have. I still 1293 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 1: do not. Okay, let's work through it. We're gonna each 1294 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 1: make two propositions connected to Super Bowl fifty six and 1295 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 1: see how it all pays out. I will get us going. 1296 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,000 Speaker 1: I have like a more traditional one here, but I 1297 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 1: really want to hit it again. Boys that it is 1298 01:04:56,200 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: tremendous that we get two put chill. Both have a 1299 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 1: long way to go, but they have Hall of Fame potential. 1300 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 1: And Cooper Cup and Jamaar Chase and both coming off 1301 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 1: just spectacular seasons. The star um playmakers on each side 1302 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 1: of this game. So it's two parts. Both Jamar Chase 1303 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup go over a hundred yards receiving. I 1304 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,280 Speaker 1: feel very confidentbo, both those guys are gonna eat. But 1305 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 1: I've gotta I know it's a super Bowl, so you 1306 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: gotta raise the steaks. One of those two men will 1307 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 1: get there by halftime. I love it. I love it. 1308 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:39,200 Speaker 1: That is, um, you know, a field full of illegally 1309 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: grown onions, like they're putting h h into these onions. Um, 1310 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,600 Speaker 1: there you go. Onions are sitting on top of the right, 1311 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,200 Speaker 1: on top of the ground. Put them on the ground 1312 01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 1: and it's like then it's like the size of the 1313 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 1: convention Center because that's big. You try to use onions, 1314 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,200 Speaker 1: you'll like them, the real sweet onions. So I definitely taken. 1315 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: I wonder if that farmer knows that he's part of 1316 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,520 Speaker 1: the show. I wonder if he's with us at this point. 1317 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,919 Speaker 1: Found that clip, um, because even I might have even 1318 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 1: taken they both get over a hundred. Football is hard. 1319 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,720 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a defensive game. And wouldn't 1320 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,760 Speaker 1: surprise me if one of them is eight five yards 1321 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 1: in this game? You know, well, Dan is the ultimate showman. 1322 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:23,919 Speaker 1: So I loved the the adam there and I'll take 1323 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 1: you on it because it's that's how you do that. 1324 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 1: I also wanted to set the bar here. This is 1325 01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, so now I need let's go big. 1326 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 1: Do you want to break? Do you want me to 1327 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,840 Speaker 1: throw it to Mark first? No? Alright, it's fine, um 1328 01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 1: Joe and have at least eight, Karen, Let's do right, 1329 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,840 Speaker 1: Let's do something more creative. It's more like I was 1330 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: doing like over unders and you know, reasonable ones. How 1331 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: about to be more creative, Jamaar Chase will deliver a 1332 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 1: meaningful block in this game that people talk about. Have 1333 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 1: we moved on to Sessler? How many? A little? A little? No? 1334 01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean, not like it's gonna make the news. You know, 1335 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 1: it's a cheerleader, you know, being in the news. For instance, 1336 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: Actually in the a f C Championship game, one of 1337 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 1: their touchdowns, Jamaar Chase, it was on the p Ryan touchdown, 1338 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,920 Speaker 1: made the key block to get him into the end zone. Now, 1339 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,760 Speaker 1: maybe not everyone's talking about that after the game, but 1340 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 1: I would show it to you and say, like, Jamar 1341 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,439 Speaker 1: Chase made the key block. He does that often. He's 1342 01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,800 Speaker 1: been known for a couple of monster blocks down the 1343 01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 1: field throughout the course of the season that would have 1344 01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,200 Speaker 1: qualified for me. Uh and I would then point it out. 1345 01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 1: So it's a little tricky in terms of how you 1346 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: judge this, but Jamaar Chase makes a memorable block in 1347 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 1: this game. That's crucial. I am not taking you on this. 1348 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,560 Speaker 1: It's far too it's far too vague. It's like it's 1349 01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,440 Speaker 1: unprovable that it's um swept the nation as you say, 1350 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 1: it's not going well. No, you guys. First of all, 1351 01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 1: First of all, you act like street when I do that, 1352 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,920 Speaker 1: and it's like, I, I don't know how to judge this. 1353 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 1: It's two. It's hurting my mind. I like the concept. 1354 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Take you up on it, because I think that. I mean, 1355 01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,840 Speaker 1: he is a very good football player. He's just not 1356 01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,880 Speaker 1: a playmaker. But the chances that he makes a big 1357 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 1: tangible impact in the game will be remembered as making 1358 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 1: a play with the ball in his hands. I would think, right, 1359 01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying a block like either on a touchdown or 1360 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 1: a decisive like a block, it could be they're done 1361 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,280 Speaker 1: or where's the onion? Guy? With this one, it's not 1362 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 1: an onion that is it is I was trying to block. 1363 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,160 Speaker 1: I was trying to yes, because how many times the 1364 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 1: wide receivers make memorable blocks. Not too often, but he 1365 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 1: he is one of the best blocking wide receivers. And 1366 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 1: one thing about him is like he has always I 1367 01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 1: love for a superstar receiver. Ball to the wall, a 1368 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,559 Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour, always the first guy celebrated, always 1369 01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 1: the first guy like running after your I wish the 1370 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,679 Speaker 1: best for you on this, Greg, I hope it's an 1371 01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 1: exciting journey for you. All right up next? Oh okay, 1372 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: Mark Cecil, I'm trying to decide what to do here. Um, 1373 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start with this one. A non QB 1374 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 1: will complete a massive pass in this game that is 1375 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: talked about, Well, then we're then we can make a 1376 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 1: tag team on that to learn your thirties are filled 1377 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,439 Speaker 1: with disappointment. Seriously, I would literally just slack down being like, 1378 01:09:21,479 --> 01:09:24,719 Speaker 1: oh I got a really good one. That's it. I'm 1379 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,760 Speaker 1: keeping that nice and simple. I mean, it's and it's 1380 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:31,640 Speaker 1: one that we will be talking about tangibly pass. It 1381 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 1: would be like it could be as like earth shaking, 1382 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:41,040 Speaker 1: um like chain moving first down or potentially even a score. 1383 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm not seeing a has to be one of those. 1384 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 1: But it's not gonna be a three yard completion or 1385 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 1: something that's to be like that's not like a little wildcat. 1386 01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,599 Speaker 1: I think we're talking like a surprise play to some degree, 1387 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,759 Speaker 1: a trick play to some degree. But I would imagine 1388 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 1: on like a fourth a fourth down type thing. Well, 1389 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 1: it's a non QB completing a pass that we think 1390 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,200 Speaker 1: is a pivotal I'll take it. I'll take you out 1391 01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,320 Speaker 1: of just because that's the way to win this game. 1392 01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,640 Speaker 1: But that's what the NFL is now, like the offenses 1393 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 1: have changed and trick plays aren't so tricky anymore. It's 1394 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:12,000 Speaker 1: part of the basic playbook. You at some point these 1395 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 1: teams both have it in their playbook. They want to 1396 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: try that, want me to replace it with a different one. 1397 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,720 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd. Tyler Boyd's good at it. O v J 1398 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: is good at it. It's one of the most popular 1399 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,360 Speaker 1: props to bed on. Actually is is non qbs either 1400 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,680 Speaker 1: complete a pass or completely a touch. I'm going for 1401 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 1: mass appeals. So I'm not I'm I'm not taking on 1402 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,599 Speaker 1: or trying to take out your prop. I'm just saying, like, 1403 01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 1: if that happens, it wouldn't be one of those like 1404 01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 1: that's a strain on this on the sandwich, Greg. No, 1405 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,000 Speaker 1: it is not like the wide receiver is gonna block someone. 1406 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean, what are we doing here? But that that 1407 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 1: is that is when when is anyone talking about a 1408 01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,519 Speaker 1: wide receiver block? That is fairly rare. It's fairly rad 1409 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 1: All right, there we go. So you you took I'm 1410 01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,320 Speaker 1: taking you on. Yeah, I'll take you up on as well. 1411 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,400 Speaker 1: All right, one more round, I will move move. I 1412 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 1: like to talk about the halftime show, So let's let's 1413 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:10,320 Speaker 1: hit the halftime show here. Dr Dre, Snoop Dogg, Kendrick Lamar, Eminem, 1414 01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 1: Mary J. Blige. It's the first hip hop, the true 1415 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 1: first hip hop halftime show. And um, I was going 1416 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 1: through the list of songs right that that should be 1417 01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,280 Speaker 1: in the playlist, and it's crazy because it is. It 1418 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 1: really is hip hop, especially in nineties two thousands of 1419 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 1: hip hop is the new classic rock of of our generation. 1420 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,360 Speaker 1: There's just so many memorable hits that it's gonna be hard. 1421 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:36,240 Speaker 1: It's a twelve minute halftime show. So what I'm gonna 1422 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:37,960 Speaker 1: do is I came up with like twelve songs that 1423 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: everyone would know as soon as they started playing Uh 1424 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,760 Speaker 1: Jin and Juice, Drop it like It's hot the next episode, 1425 01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 1: The Real Slim Shady Forgot about Dre, Lose Yourself, Humble, 1426 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,400 Speaker 1: Family Affair, and nothing but a g Thing, Like all 1427 01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 1: songs that I think would make sense. Hit that again, Ricky, 1428 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say the opener and the closer I'm 1429 01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 1: gonna predict I'm gonna nail it. This is one of 1430 01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:05,240 Speaker 1: the most memorable, instantly recognizable musical cues in the history 1431 01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,479 Speaker 1: of hip hop. It is still Dre off his chronic 1432 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 1: two thousand one comeback album. This is how it opens. 1433 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 1: Place blows up as soon as you hear this. Okay, 1434 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: So this is the opener, and then I think it closes. 1435 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,320 Speaker 1: I think it closes with California Love because I think 1436 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,000 Speaker 1: it's it's one of the great hip hop songs ever. 1437 01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 1: It's the super Bowl first Super Bowl and Southern California 1438 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,639 Speaker 1: in thirty years. It's all about West Coast hip hop. 1439 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,720 Speaker 1: Open still Dre close California Love. Maybe we get a 1440 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:41,840 Speaker 1: little Tupac hologram action. That's just speculation on California Love. 1441 01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,559 Speaker 1: But we'll see. I think nailed out. I'll take you 1442 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 1: up on it. The California Love things tricky, of course, 1443 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 1: because no Tupac Um. I mean, I'm just saying you're playing, 1444 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,800 Speaker 1: you're closing with the song where the key the key 1445 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,720 Speaker 1: member is no longer alive. So that that that's why 1446 01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: I think there's some shenanigans a foot potentially. Um, I'll 1447 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,400 Speaker 1: take you up on it. I agree with the opener 1448 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,760 Speaker 1: I if I had to pick a closer and we 1449 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,840 Speaker 1: could do some side sandwiches under I'm gonna go all 1450 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:13,839 Speaker 1: right by Kendrick Lamar. I think I know that closing. 1451 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,559 Speaker 1: First of all, Kendrick Lamar is the biggest and most 1452 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:22,840 Speaker 1: relevant person there. I think, well, Greg likes wrap, so 1453 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:27,600 Speaker 1: you have to. I'm just saying, but I'm saying of 1454 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 1: this crew of who's on top, now, who's the who's 1455 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 1: the kid of the most recent big hit with I mean, 1456 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:42,360 Speaker 1: come on, uh, the Legacy Acts, he's the guy. My 1457 01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:47,040 Speaker 1: point is that was like the anthem of the Black 1458 01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 1: Protests from two years ago. It's the most meaningful song 1459 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,760 Speaker 1: maybe from any of their catalogs. It's also instantly recognizable 1460 01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:56,400 Speaker 1: and gets everyone singing, and I think it goes um 1461 01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 1: with everything that's been happening in this country and and 1462 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:00,880 Speaker 1: what they're wont might want to leave you with. So 1463 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:04,639 Speaker 1: I'm going all right his family though everyone altogether. Family 1464 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 1: affair might close it to everybody would like a medley. 1465 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:12,840 Speaker 1: They're not closing with Mary. We're getting the headshake, and 1466 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,080 Speaker 1: he's not into my points. I like, I like my point. 1467 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,840 Speaker 1: I think they're be a social justice component to the show. 1468 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:24,599 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if there wasn't Um. However, to make 1469 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,680 Speaker 1: it the closer, I think they want to close with 1470 01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 1: like even like Listen. I don't think Eminem would close 1471 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 1: the show. I Thinkdrey is closing it, but like lose Yourself. 1472 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:34,680 Speaker 1: That could be like a song that they closed. That's 1473 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 1: like become a sports anthem with its own right, It's 1474 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 1: very can't wait, we're gonna will there be a surprise performer? Well, 1475 01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:45,080 Speaker 1: I either Tupacs still alive or I mean Warren g 1476 01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,360 Speaker 1: came out and did regulate at the playoff game, right, 1477 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:53,040 Speaker 1: and he's had a wild card. I appreciated that was there. 1478 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 1: It was great. I will take you um minus commentary. Okay, um, 1479 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,040 Speaker 1: you're more in the Chris Russo Vayne you have you 1480 01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: have nothing to say just now. I just I see 1481 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,439 Speaker 1: the um. We have the fantasy show trailing us in there. 1482 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,559 Speaker 1: It's starting to get their faces are starting to grow red. 1483 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,720 Speaker 1: So I don't need to add part of our career 1484 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,200 Speaker 1: where we were like, well, Damna, check, get off the stage. 1485 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,680 Speaker 1: It's our time now, like he's going forty minutes late. Yeah, 1486 01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 1: that alright? This episode all right, here we go one 1487 01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 1: more for each of you boys. See, I had another 1488 01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,599 Speaker 1: Marcus type one which was like the noise will create 1489 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 1: a key offensive penalty, because I think noise will be 1490 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,120 Speaker 1: a big effect. I don't want to go with that 1491 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,800 Speaker 1: as a standard. I'm gonna go Joe Burrow. It's is 1492 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,840 Speaker 1: sacked less than three times, so two or I love it. 1493 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm taking you to two and a half. Yeah, two 1494 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:45,680 Speaker 1: and a half is the number, so you has to 1495 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,559 Speaker 1: be under that. Oh yeah, I think Donald love to himself, 1496 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 1: So I'm giving some love to the Bengals game planning 1497 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,720 Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow. It's a good one. I'll definitely take it. Okay, 1498 01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 1: it's a good one though. That's a lot of I 1499 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,920 Speaker 1: really recovered from the block that you guys didn't make. 1500 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,479 Speaker 1: I think it was good. I think happened. You know what, 1501 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna have justice because I think it's going to occur. 1502 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:10,880 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna occur in the gaming. You're gonna 1503 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,120 Speaker 1: you misunderstanding me then, because it probably would have only 1504 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,519 Speaker 1: occurred three times in this season that that like twice. 1505 01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you that I think this is 1506 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:22,920 Speaker 1: and the one you were just about to go there 1507 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,560 Speaker 1: is like the crowd noise that the Super Bowl is 1508 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 1: gonna cause a false start. It's like, all right, we're 1509 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:30,200 Speaker 1: back on track. That's a compliment to you, buddy, Mark. 1510 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,120 Speaker 1: All right, I want to take you back to a 1511 01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:39,080 Speaker 1: date in time, February seven, the Saints called Super Bowl. 1512 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 1: Remember how they came out of after the halftime show, 1513 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:46,160 Speaker 1: forty minute long halftime scenario on side kick. I was there. 1514 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,000 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, who we just saw walk by us all 1515 01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,679 Speaker 1: week long before the game, said we're calling it ambush, 1516 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: and we're gonna do it. If the situation is right, 1517 01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna do it. I'm telling you right now, the 1518 01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:59,479 Speaker 1: second whoever kicks off in the second half is going 1519 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:04,200 Speaker 1: on side kick ambush. The sequel, Okay, I mean it. 1520 01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,639 Speaker 1: I'll definitely take you on and put it in the books. 1521 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,360 Speaker 1: It'd be funny that if they named it after I'm 1522 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,040 Speaker 1: calling it that play from the Saints, then they have 1523 01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:15,120 Speaker 1: no connection. But it's it is a sequel to that. 1524 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 1: I'll take a terrible special teams um group with the 1525 01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 1: Rams definitely their weakest part of their game, uh in 1526 01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,120 Speaker 1: their team all year long. So maybe the Bengals take 1527 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 1: advantage of that and catch them by sues. I like that. 1528 01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,479 Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Those are the sandwich props 1529 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,080 Speaker 1: for Super Bowl. Make sure you check out. Go get 1530 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 1: my lunched up. Do you have? I was gonna do 1531 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,479 Speaker 1: the past, but then I was also thinking that with 1532 01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,280 Speaker 1: the Acres news and everything, that Sony Michelle will score 1533 01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,479 Speaker 1: a touchdown. Oh that's good. I like that because Henderson 1534 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 1: is also playing in this game. It's definitely some onions there, 1535 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,080 Speaker 1: but I like that. I think they would trust him. 1536 01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:51,800 Speaker 1: I'll take you up on it, just for the spirit 1537 01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,280 Speaker 1: of the game. I like it. Before we get to 1538 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 1: the all important locks, you guys gotta decide whether you're 1539 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 1: taking her. I will take it. I mean, I think 1540 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 1: it's a Sonny Michelle. Nice nice operations, Sony Michelle. What 1541 01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:09,519 Speaker 1: is it. I'm not gonna take you on. I'm not 1542 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:11,560 Speaker 1: taking you on it. I don't know why. I just 1543 01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,639 Speaker 1: I just don't want to take it. You gotta feeling 1544 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,759 Speaker 1: in the onions about it, Yeah, deep in the onions. 1545 01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 1: All right. Before we get to the all important uh 1546 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 1: lock and game picks a special guest here, especially for 1547 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 1: our international listeners. We know you're out there, loud and proud. 1548 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: Jordan my Latta, one of the great success stories of 1549 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,439 Speaker 1: the International Pathway program for the NFL. Sat down on 1550 01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:37,280 Speaker 1: the couch with us, very large man star for the 1551 01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:43,320 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Here's that conversation, all right, very excited to 1552 01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:48,759 Speaker 1: have this man with us. He is Jordans my Latta. 1553 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,439 Speaker 1: He is a star tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles. But 1554 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 1: with a different type of journey, you know. Jordan's first 1555 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,839 Speaker 1: of all, welcome to the Round the NFL podcast. Everyone 1556 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:02,519 Speaker 1: talks about on and on about Tom Brady on nine 1557 01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,240 Speaker 1: overall pick in two thousand. You went to thirty three 1558 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,000 Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen, and now you are a star 1559 01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:16,880 Speaker 1: offensive lineman in the NFL. Had already I would say 1560 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:23,559 Speaker 1: you've had a better career, but it's if people are 1561 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 1: not aware. This is one of the great success stories, 1562 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 1: um for when you look at the league from an 1563 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:34,599 Speaker 1: international perspective. Jordan is Australian. He came to the league 1564 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:37,800 Speaker 1: via the International Player Pathway program, which are a man 1565 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,519 Speaker 1: handsome Hank Henry Hodson. There is a major figure, UH 1566 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,400 Speaker 1: with that. And you went from playing rugby in Australia 1567 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 1: and not even playing a down of American football to 1568 01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 1: four years later signing a massive extension with the Eagles. 1569 01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:54,280 Speaker 1: How did you do it? How did you manage this 1570 01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:57,120 Speaker 1: the way you have? Ah? Man, it was it was 1571 01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,880 Speaker 1: a long journey. It was a long journey. Wasn't easy. Um, 1572 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,200 Speaker 1: But with handsome Hank's help. Funny, I mean in Australia 1573 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 1: you call him handsome too. I'm gonna now I have 1574 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,600 Speaker 1: not a choice to now. I didn't know that he 1575 01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:13,880 Speaker 1: is handsome. You were saying, yeah, he looks like in Hollywood. Yeah, 1576 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,879 Speaker 1: people don't know. Henry actually spends the entire offseason walking 1577 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:20,560 Speaker 1: up and down the streets in various countries and he 1578 01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,080 Speaker 1: just saw you in Australia and he is the one 1579 01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:27,160 Speaker 1: that that really discovered you. But how did how does 1580 01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,559 Speaker 1: it happen? Because I don't think any of us sitting 1581 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 1: here could can speak with um real knowledge of the 1582 01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:39,920 Speaker 1: Australian the rugby. But how did you learn? We hear 1583 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,240 Speaker 1: all the time about office. Fine, it's a tacticians game. 1584 01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 1: You have to know how to use your hands, how 1585 01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,000 Speaker 1: to use leverage, how to how to play the play 1586 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 1: the position. How did you pick it up so quickly? 1587 01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,240 Speaker 1: Was there a connection to the previous sport that you 1588 01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 1: excelled in? Um? Now that you confently translate anything over 1589 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,599 Speaker 1: from rugby. I think it's just a whole different skill set, 1590 01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 1: two different sports. Um. I think the one thing I 1591 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:04,720 Speaker 1: did carry over from rugby, it was probably my my aggression. 1592 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,720 Speaker 1: Um yeah, but that that came after I learned how 1593 01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,280 Speaker 1: to play. I'd like to think that I had some 1594 01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 1: sort of i Q before I came to the sport 1595 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,519 Speaker 1: in order to learn the sport. You know, like you 1596 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,800 Speaker 1: just said it's a tactician's position. It wasn't. You're in 1597 01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,599 Speaker 1: a cave when you just said the word aggression. Mark 1598 01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,519 Speaker 1: actually like started to lean back because you guys are 1599 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,400 Speaker 1: next to each other. It's quite a picture, I I personally, 1600 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 1: I mean, just you could destroy where we going. No, 1601 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, I just I just like to think that 1602 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,839 Speaker 1: I had some sort of street smart and book smarts, 1603 01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, to allow me to to learn the game. 1604 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,960 Speaker 1: It had to be the intellectual element of it had 1605 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,360 Speaker 1: to be huge to kind of getting ramped up. Yeah. 1606 01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:50,240 Speaker 1: I think the more repetitions I got reading over the place, um, 1607 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,840 Speaker 1: and then going out on the field just learning the technique, 1608 01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:57,519 Speaker 1: it's kind of just excelled my learning. And that's really 1609 01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,120 Speaker 1: how I liked learning, was just doing it physically that 1610 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,880 Speaker 1: you talked like the playbook you said was just like 1611 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,439 Speaker 1: picking up a completely foreign language. I mean what an 1612 01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:08,320 Speaker 1: NFL playbook is dense, it's thick, it's um involved. Like, 1613 01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,720 Speaker 1: how how do you even begin to pick that up 1614 01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,280 Speaker 1: coming in as an adult versus starting, you know, youth football. Yeah, 1615 01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:19,639 Speaker 1: it's basically like a dictionary. Dictionary and the source all one. 1616 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,559 Speaker 1: It's like, when I first saw the playbook, can they 1617 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,640 Speaker 1: open the binder folder? Well, this is a bind a 1618 01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 1: fold of the I don't know. I think the Eagles 1619 01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,680 Speaker 1: had like a little folder. And when I saw how 1620 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,400 Speaker 1: thick it was, I was I was like, come on, 1621 01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,040 Speaker 1: this is a joke. This is come on, man, Like 1622 01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,400 Speaker 1: I think this is not some university. I didn't go 1623 01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,960 Speaker 1: to college. Guys, Come on, man, what does what they have? 1624 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,880 Speaker 1: Is there like something similar like playbooks or like how 1625 01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,599 Speaker 1: does it work? Oh? Yeah, but probably like three pages 1626 01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,880 Speaker 1: three pages just showing where the backs are, just so 1627 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,960 Speaker 1: you line up and show which hole you want to hit. 1628 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,240 Speaker 1: What were those first days like in Philadelphia You're suddenly 1629 01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 1: on a team with you know, future Hall of Famer 1630 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,200 Speaker 1: like Jason Peters. You're going up against some of the 1631 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,880 Speaker 1: best pass rushers and defensive ends and practice. Like when 1632 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:08,920 Speaker 1: you're actually starting to play football and there you are like, 1633 01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 1: here's this guy, uh, you know hasn't played basically ever 1634 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:17,040 Speaker 1: and you're going up against the best in the game. Yeah. 1635 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,679 Speaker 1: I think my first couple of days there had Jason 1636 01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,160 Speaker 1: Kelsey and Lane Johnson hit me up just letting me 1637 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:23,680 Speaker 1: know that I'm going to be in safe hands. And 1638 01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,040 Speaker 1: then JP I saw him in the Luca introduced himself. 1639 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:28,720 Speaker 1: He's like, I know who you are, you know and 1640 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,960 Speaker 1: you okay, we just dropped it from Australia. I was like, cool, 1641 01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:34,720 Speaker 1: that's cool. It's cool environments get into until the til 1642 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,760 Speaker 1: the ball started rolling we actually went on field and 1643 01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,840 Speaker 1: just being able to see the Vets do their thing, 1644 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,200 Speaker 1: I still had no idea what the hell they were 1645 01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,519 Speaker 1: doing because I was like, what is that technique? So 1646 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:46,479 Speaker 1: I still had to learn on the on the role 1647 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,240 Speaker 1: and learn on the ball. So I was just thankful 1648 01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,760 Speaker 1: that I had those veteran leadership in the room and 1649 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,559 Speaker 1: that you would be to use a football parlance, here 1650 01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 1: a project. I mean you you have the size, obviously, 1651 01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:02,719 Speaker 1: the strength and the intent bowles, but I don't imagine 1652 01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 1: they thought it would come together as quickly as it did. 1653 01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,479 Speaker 1: You followed, you followed PFF. By the way the Pro 1654 01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,880 Speaker 1: Football Focus the grades they do in the trenches, you 1655 01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,439 Speaker 1: were graded as the third highest graded tackle in the 1656 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,280 Speaker 1: in your second season in the league, you jumped up 1657 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,720 Speaker 1: in and again that's these are all arbitrary rankings, but 1658 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,840 Speaker 1: it's more to illustrate the point that you, your star 1659 01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:26,000 Speaker 1: has ascended year after year. So it's just like, what 1660 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,640 Speaker 1: are you twenty four now? Right? So it's saying I 1661 01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:32,400 Speaker 1: imagine the Eagles are pinching themselves and they're as much 1662 01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,280 Speaker 1: as you were happy with that contract, they're probably saying, damn, 1663 01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,920 Speaker 1: we're happy we locked him up because he's just getting 1664 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 1: warmed up and he's already this good. I don't know 1665 01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 1: what the thing they probably are. I don't know, um, 1666 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:48,200 Speaker 1: but that was a question. I was just it's wild. Yes, 1667 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,479 Speaker 1: it's just been a crazy journey man, Like I think 1668 01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:52,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have gotten here, you know, with the people 1669 01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,400 Speaker 1: in my count and my girlfriend supports me so much 1670 01:24:55,200 --> 01:25:01,120 Speaker 1: off the field. Girlfriend from rugby days, No, like three 1671 01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,759 Speaker 1: weeks when was that Philly? She's not She's not from Philly, alright, 1672 01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:08,120 Speaker 1: it's Anchorage girl from Alaska. You know what I don't 1673 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,400 Speaker 1: think I've ever met an Anchorage girl. Yeah exactly, I never. 1674 01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,920 Speaker 1: I didn't even know Anchorage was a place. Into elk, 1675 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:17,479 Speaker 1: what is Like? What is it? What's what's an Anchorage girl? Like? Into? 1676 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:19,680 Speaker 1: I want to see she does. She's like brought up 1677 01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,800 Speaker 1: animals before. I was like, there's no way you guys 1678 01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,320 Speaker 1: eat that. That's some movie stuff. Come on, now, this 1679 01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:28,040 Speaker 1: ain't the Revnant. Come on, come on, it's a movie. 1680 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,280 Speaker 1: Speaking of food, have you eaten meals bigger than Greg? 1681 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,000 Speaker 1: We're talking calories or we're just saying like plates, which 1682 01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,040 Speaker 1: how many of me do you think you could bench press? 1683 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I suppose like how many? I almost saying I'm a 1684 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,559 Speaker 1: say three? Okay? Can you bench press Greg right now? 1685 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,160 Speaker 1: Three times? I don't want to do this, probably could? 1686 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,200 Speaker 1: Can you put can you put your hand next to Mark's? 1687 01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 1: Like just put it up to his crazy? Okay? So 1688 01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:01,800 Speaker 1: large man. I want to hear more about Henry. I 1689 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,200 Speaker 1: know that sounds weird, but you're like about the international 1690 01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:06,880 Speaker 1: because we who knows when we're going to get to 1691 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:08,880 Speaker 1: talk to you again. Henry is one of our great friends. 1692 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,000 Speaker 1: Sounds like he's one of your great friends. Act like 1693 01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,479 Speaker 1: what what what was that like, Um, the process of 1694 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 1: getting to know the NFL and the international player pathway 1695 01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 1: and what Henry like, what's that? What's that relationship been? 1696 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:27,400 Speaker 1: That's been an awesome relationship. Um, well, I think the 1697 01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,120 Speaker 1: word it's kind of like home, like a home feeling. 1698 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,080 Speaker 1: You know, you come here, foreign land, here American excellents, 1699 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 1: and then you hear a British accent, You're like, oh, 1700 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,360 Speaker 1: that's it's close to home for me. So and then 1701 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 1: meeting Henry, the topic guy that he is, you just 1702 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,800 Speaker 1: care so much for the program and the plays in it, 1703 01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:45,599 Speaker 1: and he doesn't care that you're a player. He cares 1704 01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 1: that you're a good person first. And that's one thing 1705 01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:49,920 Speaker 1: for me that resonates with me as my character, like 1706 01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:52,280 Speaker 1: I don't give, I don't get here. You are as 1707 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,360 Speaker 1: as long as you're you're a good person, you have 1708 01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,400 Speaker 1: good morals. That's all I care about. He did warn 1709 01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,320 Speaker 1: us you swore a lot in front of his son, 1710 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,160 Speaker 1: a moment. That was the first. That was the first 1711 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,120 Speaker 1: one you dropped. That's a plus plus, Like he's a 1712 01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,280 Speaker 1: he's a handsome guy. The the eyes they bring you 1713 01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 1: in come down before exactly before before we say goodbye, 1714 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:18,560 Speaker 1: so we know you're a busy man um now that 1715 01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:22,559 Speaker 1: you are established as a star offensive lineman in the NFL, 1716 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,320 Speaker 1: and you've been around the Eagles for seven several years, 1717 01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:29,080 Speaker 1: and you you're obviously a very affable, nice guy, but 1718 01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,839 Speaker 1: also an imposing presence. At what point do other Eagles 1719 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 1: players know, don't try to do an Australian accent. Don't 1720 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:36,800 Speaker 1: you dare make fun of the way I talk. I 1721 01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,840 Speaker 1: will eat you, keep you live hot off the field. 1722 01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 1: Many and they can do all that stuff. Lane does 1723 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:44,960 Speaker 1: it all the time. Lane does it all the time. 1724 01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:49,439 Speaker 1: Does it? Henry hates at the office when people talking 1725 01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 1: to faux British accent. But you're much more, I guess 1726 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:56,920 Speaker 1: Henry Hodgson like that. Oh my god, if I close 1727 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,400 Speaker 1: my eyes right, oh my god, if I close my eyes, 1728 01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:01,200 Speaker 1: I can hear him. Go have some fish and chips, 1729 01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:09,280 Speaker 1: okay them anyway, Jordan's thank you so much for coming on. 1730 01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:13,040 Speaker 1: We have we are so blessed to have a thriving 1731 01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,720 Speaker 1: international audience ourselves, like in Australia from England. All we 1732 01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:19,200 Speaker 1: met some people from Brazil today and took a photo 1733 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,160 Speaker 1: and they were big pants like it's it's one of 1734 01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:24,720 Speaker 1: the great honors for us, and so we're connected to 1735 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,519 Speaker 1: you because we want to see the International Pathway program 1736 01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,880 Speaker 1: continue to thrive. And you're like the shining sun of 1737 01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:33,439 Speaker 1: the program. So no pressure, but keep going to you know, 1738 01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:38,000 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl and getting high PF grades. Thank you. 1739 01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:44,639 Speaker 1: That's what it's all about. Jordan my lotta. Everybody snap 1740 01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 1: snap snaps. We only use foul language, not bad, not bad. 1741 01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:54,439 Speaker 1: That was great, nice man, that my latta. That's another 1742 01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,960 Speaker 1: scenario where in about an hour they're gonna put these 1743 01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 1: photos out of us standing next to them, you know, 1744 01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,720 Speaker 1: in a group out and Greg and I look like um, 1745 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:04,880 Speaker 1: toddlers and adult clothing next to this man. So it's 1746 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, well, you can't you can't feel bad about 1747 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,200 Speaker 1: that because he is six eight three seventy or something. 1748 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:12,240 Speaker 1: He's like one of the biggest NFL players, not just regularly. 1749 01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean it sits with me. I don't like being 1750 01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:16,320 Speaker 1: my height necessarily. I don't feel that at all in 1751 01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:20,679 Speaker 1: the NFL scenario. Um, you know when we see NFL players. 1752 01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:23,800 Speaker 1: I feel it every day when I'm walking home with 1753 01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,400 Speaker 1: my kids from school and I passed the middle school 1754 01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,400 Speaker 1: and there's many young men and women that's who are 1755 01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:33,760 Speaker 1: bigger than me. And that's when I that's like high 1756 01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:39,519 Speaker 1: eleven year old girl and you know, waving up to her. Women. 1757 01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,759 Speaker 1: The men there, they're well, I guess they're not allowing. 1758 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,800 Speaker 1: They're more like grade. But yes, there are Yeah, those 1759 01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,040 Speaker 1: girls I walked by the every day. I had a 1760 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,200 Speaker 1: sixth great girlfriend who was like, legit, like thirteen inches 1761 01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,280 Speaker 1: taller than me at that time. No, not not, It 1762 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been later in life. But I was like 1763 01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,639 Speaker 1: the one that was just worried about the fantasy guys. 1764 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's go that is and I would like 1765 01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:12,080 Speaker 1: to see a photo of that er To Erica's point, 1766 01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:14,960 Speaker 1: they developed quicker those girls. All right, now it's getting weird. 1767 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:16,880 Speaker 1: I don't even the word developed. I don't know if 1768 01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,680 Speaker 1: you need it. It's time to lock it up. It's 1769 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,880 Speaker 1: and everyone knows if you follow this podcast, that there's something. 1770 01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,479 Speaker 1: There's some serious drama foot. I had a nice cushion 1771 01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,320 Speaker 1: exiting the regular season in our locks competition, and it 1772 01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,720 Speaker 1: just got whittled away because I tried to. I tried 1773 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,840 Speaker 1: to get behind the favorites, as I think it's a 1774 01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,040 Speaker 1: smart play when you have a lead and try to 1775 01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:40,599 Speaker 1: just run out the clock essentially. But I got burned 1776 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,720 Speaker 1: because this was the year, this was the year the 1777 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,200 Speaker 1: underdog four seed verse four seed, and I picked the 1778 01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,120 Speaker 1: wrong horses. I picked Aaron Rodgers in the divisional round. 1779 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,160 Speaker 1: I then picked Patrick Mahomes in the championship round, and 1780 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,599 Speaker 1: somehow both those guys blew it. So it is now 1781 01:30:56,640 --> 01:31:02,519 Speaker 1: a tie between Mark and I and we should get 1782 01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,639 Speaker 1: you should get maybe the opening I'm the opening act 1783 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,240 Speaker 1: here out of the way first, Yes, I think it's 1784 01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:10,600 Speaker 1: time now. And I did say uh and again, and 1785 01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:13,160 Speaker 1: this is just a showing of character for me. But uh, 1786 01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,519 Speaker 1: I don't want to just go into a lock with 1787 01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:20,360 Speaker 1: Mark necessarily and ride it to a tie. And I'm 1788 01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,280 Speaker 1: not interested in that. If if I'm gonna go down 1789 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:26,080 Speaker 1: three Falcon style, I'll do it. I'll do it, and 1790 01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:30,760 Speaker 1: I'll take my I'll take the medicine, okay, uh you 1791 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:33,519 Speaker 1: know on the other side of the dime. Listen, if 1792 01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,080 Speaker 1: I could somehow escape with the title in my first 1793 01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:41,920 Speaker 1: solo trophy after a near meltdown, allah the rams, that 1794 01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:44,120 Speaker 1: will feel all the more rewarding. But yes, let's start 1795 01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:48,680 Speaker 1: with the appetizer, the shrimp cocktail. Yeah, hey, I've had 1796 01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,519 Speaker 1: a good playoff run here for the most part. I 1797 01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,240 Speaker 1: had that those rams in the first round. That trophy, 1798 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,240 Speaker 1: by the way, is sitting on your desk. I brought 1799 01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,120 Speaker 1: it in and I tried to put it in a 1800 01:31:57,280 --> 01:32:01,080 Speaker 1: neutral ground and mark Um encourage me to put it 1801 01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:04,240 Speaker 1: on your desk. Is a lintal warfare and said, Dan, 1802 01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:07,559 Speaker 1: we we have these glass pubicles. He attempted to rest 1803 01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:13,400 Speaker 1: it on the edge of it between It's like in 1804 01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:16,880 Speaker 1: the like uh eight six World Series, where the Red 1805 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,280 Speaker 1: Sox had already tarped up their lockers to celebrate with champagne. 1806 01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,960 Speaker 1: That's what this feels like. I don't like it, Yeah, 1807 01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:27,000 Speaker 1: I I do like how I felt this week, and 1808 01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,840 Speaker 1: how I felt since the Bengals won that Divisional round 1809 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,000 Speaker 1: game is when I started to believe, and I am 1810 01:32:33,120 --> 01:32:36,320 Speaker 1: taking the Bengals to win this game. I think it's 1811 01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:40,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a more of a defensive game than people expect. 1812 01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,000 Speaker 1: I like the under. I have a twenty three to 1813 01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:46,120 Speaker 1: one Bengals with McPherson hitting the kick at the end, 1814 01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,160 Speaker 1: and I do believe it, not just because of what 1815 01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:49,920 Speaker 1: I just said about what they've done the last five 1816 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:53,200 Speaker 1: or six weeks against really good opponents, and not just 1817 01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:56,879 Speaker 1: because there's something more a foot, uh with the Wesleyan 1818 01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:01,439 Speaker 1: brothers and and everything. I think they will play this 1819 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,519 Speaker 1: game like another game, that they they will play this 1820 01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:08,920 Speaker 1: game loose, uh, and that they Football isn't about like 1821 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,880 Speaker 1: who has the best resume, who did this, who did that? 1822 01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,880 Speaker 1: It's how you play in that one game, that one performance. 1823 01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,360 Speaker 1: And I worry about Sean McVeigh a little bit, having 1824 01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:23,360 Speaker 1: some game management situations that Rams fans remember forever. And 1825 01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:27,080 Speaker 1: I just believe in this team. I'm not just doing 1826 01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,040 Speaker 1: this with my heart, although it's certainly with my heart. 1827 01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,880 Speaker 1: I truly believe this game is gonna end, and we're 1828 01:33:31,880 --> 01:33:35,320 Speaker 1: gonna go find those Westley brothers in whatever section they're in, 1829 01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:37,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna give him a great big hug. And 1830 01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:42,120 Speaker 1: that's how this season ends. Okay, I like that, all right? 1831 01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:50,919 Speaker 1: Speaking to the Westling brothers, you know, Aaron Rodgers received 1832 01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:55,160 Speaker 1: a regular season m VT. I guess Joe Burrow will 1833 01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,920 Speaker 1: just have to settle for the Super Bowl MVP. And 1834 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm lucking you know. Nick here, you three podcast bosos 1835 01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:07,439 Speaker 1: have been talking trash about the Westling brothers all year long. 1836 01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:12,240 Speaker 1: Say we're at each other's throat. We can't agree on anything. Well, 1837 01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:15,679 Speaker 1: guess what We're all in unison this week. The Bengals 1838 01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,400 Speaker 1: win the super Bowl. Lock it up. The Bengals are 1839 01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:27,920 Speaker 1: gonna win the super Bowl, and I'm gonna lock it Wow. 1840 01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,400 Speaker 1: That was awesome and I love that Tim definitely had 1841 01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:34,519 Speaker 1: a few drinks before he cut a dog in the back. 1842 01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,479 Speaker 1: All Right. As I said, Mark, I am uh due 1843 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:42,120 Speaker 1: to my collapse in the playoffs. I am letting fate 1844 01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,600 Speaker 1: do to me what it will. So I will be 1845 01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,040 Speaker 1: blocking up against you, and I give you right of 1846 01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:51,479 Speaker 1: first choice here, all right. And I'm not gonna go 1847 01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:54,200 Speaker 1: where logic would take me here because I think that 1848 01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,840 Speaker 1: would guide me towards the Rams. Um. I'm going to 1849 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:01,360 Speaker 1: lock up the Bengals. I've seen my mind in nineteen 1850 01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:05,000 Speaker 1: to sixteen win in overtime, and I think this is 1851 01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,880 Speaker 1: the beginning of Joe Burrow being in our life for 1852 01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,920 Speaker 1: the next fift seventeen eighteen years as one of the 1853 01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:15,160 Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks in NFL history. It gives me kind of 1854 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,680 Speaker 1: like Tom Brady Um Patriots Rams vibes, where it's there 1855 01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,400 Speaker 1: the clear underdog, but they just don't know what they 1856 01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,080 Speaker 1: don't know, and I worry about the Rams getting a 1857 01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,719 Speaker 1: little tight, a little tight butt in the second half. 1858 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,479 Speaker 1: If if Sean McVeigh, you know, things aren't going well. 1859 01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,600 Speaker 1: It just seems like they're susceptible to that where the 1860 01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,960 Speaker 1: Bengals are riding this dream wave and I am taking 1861 01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,439 Speaker 1: Cincinnati to take this game in the Super Bowl title, 1862 01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna lock it up. I am locking it up, 1863 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,200 Speaker 1: all right. And I think this is the way it 1864 01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,040 Speaker 1: should have played out, because it maybe there would be 1865 01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:47,280 Speaker 1: a little bit it would feel a little weird if 1866 01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,080 Speaker 1: I didn't believe what I was about to say. But 1867 01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:52,040 Speaker 1: I am going to pick the Rams. I loved the 1868 01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:55,800 Speaker 1: Bengals story. I'm gonna lock up those Rams. I love 1869 01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,560 Speaker 1: the obviously the Westling brother component to it. Um. But 1870 01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, talking to Lakisha last week and this this 1871 01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,080 Speaker 1: gave me some peace of mind as well, And I 1872 01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:05,599 Speaker 1: asked her, what do you want? How do you want 1873 01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,000 Speaker 1: Sunday the playoffs? She says, I don't care no matter 1874 01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 1: what happens, just the two teams getting here. The fact 1875 01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,160 Speaker 1: that we had this amazing run, the fact that it 1876 01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,719 Speaker 1: led to Chris's brothers being in town for the game, 1877 01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,360 Speaker 1: which is such a beautiful thing. Um, it's okay with 1878 01:36:19,439 --> 01:36:22,080 Speaker 1: her whoever wins, and I got a feeling you can 1879 01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,680 Speaker 1: never know. I think West is cool with that too. Chris, 1880 01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,840 Speaker 1: I know he would love his brothers to be happy, 1881 01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:29,120 Speaker 1: but his wife being happy if the Rams win the 1882 01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,439 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Link is not old enough to really pick 1883 01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:33,760 Speaker 1: a side at this point. So I feel like I'm 1884 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:35,960 Speaker 1: in the clear and just saying I think the Rams 1885 01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:40,120 Speaker 1: have a better roster. I think they are battle tested. 1886 01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,240 Speaker 1: I think, yes, they've gotten tight butts, but remember what 1887 01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,880 Speaker 1: happened in Tampa Bay when the world was caving in 1888 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,080 Speaker 1: three they found a way to stay alive and take 1889 01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:51,120 Speaker 1: that game. I don't like the idea of mc fearless 1890 01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:54,639 Speaker 1: being involved in a close game, so I'm gonna say 1891 01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:56,920 Speaker 1: it won't be that situation. I think it's gonna be 1892 01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,160 Speaker 1: a four point game. They'll need to get a stop, 1893 01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:01,800 Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald, like he did in the NFC title Game, 1894 01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:06,599 Speaker 1: is gonna make sure it happens. Rams get that Super 1895 01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:10,160 Speaker 1: Bowl in their building. Lock it up. I'm gonna channel 1896 01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:14,040 Speaker 1: what I believe Nick Wessling would say in this situation, 1897 01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,080 Speaker 1: which is, thank you. You know you've picked against the 1898 01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:20,200 Speaker 1: Bengals for three straight weeks. Why change the mojo? It's 1899 01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:24,120 Speaker 1: treat the stank on their opponent. And absolutely that could be. 1900 01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:25,960 Speaker 1: That could be how it played out. But like I said, 1901 01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:31,120 Speaker 1: I have I have failed throughout the off season the postseason. 1902 01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,880 Speaker 1: Let's see if things change. I don't know, but I'm 1903 01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:37,000 Speaker 1: at peace with it either way. If I lose and 1904 01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,559 Speaker 1: collapse and the Bengals are one of the great stories 1905 01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,880 Speaker 1: of all time. Hey, that's all right, that's all right too. 1906 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:44,880 Speaker 1: I will be piste. It is the greater thing that 1907 01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:49,679 Speaker 1: has happened to our show this entire time, that we've 1908 01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:54,040 Speaker 1: gone through this really rough year plus after losing West, 1909 01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:56,400 Speaker 1: that the Bengals, who were two and fourteen in a 1910 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:59,559 Speaker 1: lost cause just a couple of seasons ago, are here, 1911 01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,000 Speaker 1: and so I just I don't know. Life is very strange. 1912 01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,400 Speaker 1: Ricky's here crying. I feel for you, Ricky. There's a 1913 01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,360 Speaker 1: lot of emotions. It's gonna be funny because it's West 1914 01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:11,000 Speaker 1: of Us and I if the Bengals lose, I can 1915 01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:14,360 Speaker 1: picture West laughing his ass off. Right, we still don't 1916 01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,800 Speaker 1: know what he thinks. And we're a year removed from 1917 01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:21,280 Speaker 1: the worst show in our podcast history that that was 1918 01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,560 Speaker 1: our super Bowl show, and now we're a couple of 1919 01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:28,240 Speaker 1: days about doing a very different post super Bowl show, 1920 01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:33,080 Speaker 1: but still still strange, still feeling every emotion possible that 1921 01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 1: his brothers will be there, that he won't be But 1922 01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:38,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna find joying it. I know it'll 1923 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:42,479 Speaker 1: be a special special Sunday. We tried to celebrate West 1924 01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:44,599 Speaker 1: one year ago at the Super Bowl and the most 1925 01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:48,800 Speaker 1: tragic of circumstances two days after he passed away. Now 1926 01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,439 Speaker 1: we get to celebrate him again after this Super Bowl 1927 01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,320 Speaker 1: um and uh look forward to it. So thank you 1928 01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:59,880 Speaker 1: to everybody for following our shows all week and check 1929 01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,000 Speaker 1: out are around the NFL broadcast Super Bowl Preview on 1930 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:06,200 Speaker 1: Saturday on NFL Network, check your local listings, and then 1931 01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:09,400 Speaker 1: of course, yes Sunday Night, the flagship program, we recap 1932 01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:13,920 Speaker 1: everything from the big Game. Thank you to everybody, Thanks 1933 01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:17,479 Speaker 1: to our guest today and our guests all week and 1934 01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:21,439 Speaker 1: until Sunday night. Super Bowl fifty six is decided and 1935 01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:24,320 Speaker 1: there was a champion and there's a trophy being hoisted. 1936 01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:28,320 Speaker 1: Both it's so far and inside our building he the 1937 01:39:28,400 --> 01:40:08,960 Speaker 1: call M. S.