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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and it is a we're dodging rain

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Speaker 2: drops here for like like the next six days.

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Speaker 3: It appears, it sounds like it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ge in and out rain, rain, rain rain. I

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Speaker 2: got to hear today it hadn't rained at all at

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Speaker 2: my house. And I got like three quarters of the

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Speaker 2: way here to Bridgeville where we do the show, and

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Speaker 2: the roads are all wet, and I'm like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, Yeah, I didn't really see any of the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I was based on podcast. But last night it poured

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Speaker 3: for a little.

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Speaker 2: And there are still people that don't have electricity right

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Speaker 2: now all over the Pittsburgh region.

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Speaker 3: I know we were out like twenty four hours, which

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Speaker 3: seemed like three days, but I can't imagine being out

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Speaker 3: that long, right, Yeah, if we get how much things

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Speaker 3: work off electricity in your house.

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Speaker 2: I was talking with of course, I'd run a baseball

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Speaker 2: league and umpire that kind of stuff, and I was

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Speaker 2: talking with one of my umpires. He said, why did

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Speaker 2: avella canceled yesterday because they didn't have school, right because

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Speaker 2: they don't have any electricity right now in novella.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my kids haven't gone since Tuesday. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And he's like, I don't know why they canceled the

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Speaker 2: baseball game. I get why they would do that for

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Speaker 2: high school. I'm like, well, you don't realize how much

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Speaker 2: you need electricity until you need electricity. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It does a lot of stuff right, right, and making

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Speaker 3: matters worse for whatever reason. At our house, we don't

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Speaker 3: get cell coverage well at all. And I don't know why.

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Speaker 3: It's you know, pretty populated area, it's not the middle

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Speaker 3: of nowhere, but we need the internet to really use

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Speaker 3: our phones. So our kids when when it was down,

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Speaker 3: I mean the phone was a paperweight. Basically, they were

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Speaker 3: leaving the house, going anywhere they could for service. They

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Speaker 3: could books, they could read books, Yeah, surely could. But

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Speaker 3: they've been enjoying themselves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they have.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's a time of year now that the draft is over.

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Speaker 2: And we kind of went through some stuff yesterday, rankings

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Speaker 2: and things for that for fantasy nature and futures and

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Speaker 2: things of that that nature espn Ben Solak has put

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Speaker 2: out the Rookie of the Year predictions. Yeah, the ranking

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Speaker 2: the candidates, and.

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Speaker 3: I haven't given this any thought.

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Speaker 2: Offensive Rookie of the Year. His top four guys are

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Speaker 2: cam Ward, which makes complete sense.

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks all the benefit of doubt. Yeah, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, Like Baker and Saquon were the same year,

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Speaker 3: and Baker won it. Yes, probably shouldn't have, but you

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Speaker 3: know he was the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Ashton gent is second. Let'st say he asked me right

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Speaker 2: on his heels though. But then three and four are interesting.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck, which I could kind of get. Yeah, he

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Speaker 2: could be the starter. And Jackson Dart. Oh, I don't

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Speaker 2: think I can't go with Jackson Dart at all. No,

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Speaker 2: Shuck makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I think he's got to He's got a path to

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Speaker 2: Dart.

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine he's gonna play in the first month. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean at a minimum and maybe deeper into it.

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Speaker 3: And maybe I'm crazy. Those are the odds on fait.

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Speaker 3: Those are the four top odds favorites. His picks are

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Speaker 3: different than that, Oh, okay, okay, boy, I would not

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Speaker 3: put any money on it.

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Speaker 2: Think they're trying to get the Giant the New York

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Speaker 2: vote or the New York money to go. Hey, Giants

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Speaker 2: drafted a quarterback. Let's put a bunch of money on that.

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Speaker 3: How do you put him over Tet McMillan or Hunter or.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the here's the list that Ben Sola

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Speaker 3: I like Ben's work.

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Speaker 2: Cam Ward, okay, that's fine to start in week one.

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Speaker 2: Teed McMillan ahead of Shuck.

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Speaker 3: I agree. I agree.

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter at five sounds like he's going to be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would take him over McMillan, Matthew Golden

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Speaker 3: with the Packers, very possible, and Mechagg Buca with the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: And then Jackson started eight. None of the running backs,

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Speaker 3: I've been looking more and more into dynasty rookie ranks

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Speaker 3: and all that, so I mean, this is I'm kind

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Speaker 3: of fresh on my tip of my tongue. RJ. Harvey

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Speaker 2: That's not his final list. He was mixing things. He

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Speaker 2: was doing it first. Okay, so here's his final list.

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Speaker 2: I should have read this whole thing before I got

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Speaker 2: to it. All right, So he has Cam Woord, Ashton genty,

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Speaker 2: Omarion Hampton three.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: But that's a crowded back.

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Speaker 3: It's a crowded backfield. And as of right now, JK.

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Speaker 3: Dobbins is there, who was pretty good last year?

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Speaker 2: You know, then Ted McMillan, then Tyler Shuck.

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Speaker 3: Would you shuck higher? He's a quarterback? It sure helps. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if he plays seventeen games.

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Speaker 2: Travis Hunter at six. Seven is Matthew Golden eight a

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Speaker 2: Mechagg Buca, nine Quinn Shawn Judkins, okay, ten Traveon Henderson.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I would have Harvey overall almost all those guys.

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Speaker 2: Eleven is Jackson Dart, Twelve is our J Harvey with

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Speaker 2: the Broncos.

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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking about competition for playing time.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen is Caleb Johnson.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking he should be higher too.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen is Colston Loveland. Fifteen Tyler Warren does the tight end?

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Speaker 3: Never want it?

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Speaker 2: I don't. I mean if he didn't win it last year,

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Speaker 2: It's not going to be done.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean it's hard. You're not going to have

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Speaker 3: a better year than him.

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Speaker 2: Uh sixteen Will Howard, Wow, Yeah, seventeen shardor Sanders, eighteen,

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, do you think there's any other

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Speaker 3: starting quarterbacks on Week one than Schuck or Ward? Don't?

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Speaker 3: I don't see it. Maybe in Cleveland, but I doubt it.

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Speaker 2: If I were doing this list, let's listen. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: d would definitely be one. Him and gent Stanles Gent

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Speaker 2: Hampton wouldn't be my three.

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Speaker 2: Shuck would actually be my three.

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Speaker 3: I think it's between Shuck, Tet and Hunter.

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Speaker 2: If if Shuck starts, think about it in terms of

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Speaker 2: Think about it. What in terms of what happened last year,

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Speaker 2: Jade Daniels was the favorite more or less after Week four.

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Speaker 2: was a favorite. Knicks closed the gap later, but it

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Speaker 2: was still Daniels to lose because Nick started all those games.

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Speaker 2: So if Shuck starts all the games and gets better

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Speaker 3: Goes on he is a Knicks like season.

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Speaker 2: Let's say he throws eighteen touchdown pass right, doesn't doesn't

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Speaker 2: stink right, right, right, He's going to be in that

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Speaker 3: I mean I would have him over Hampton for sure.

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Speaker 3: I think McMillan and Hunter have strong cases. It's just

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Speaker 3: I think Hunter is going to play a lot of offense.

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Speaker 2: That's fine. Is he going to catch seventy passes? Eighty passes?

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Speaker 3: I think Shuck would be my three as well, but

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Speaker 3: I would tier them Ward and genty tier one. McMillan, Hunter,

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Speaker 3: Shuck here two. Harvey might be in my tier too, I.

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Speaker 2: Would have I would have Judkins, Harvey, and Johnson in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think that's going to be a

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Speaker 3: split backfield from the start. That's why I keep going

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Speaker 3: back to Harvey.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what his competition is, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: Still have the Notre Dame dude, who's a banger. But

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Speaker 3: I mean that's not much to be in your way. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the tight ends, No, I just think that's such a

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Speaker 2: It's rookie wide receivers. Yes, we've seen a bunch come

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Speaker 3: I like Golden's chances better. Who are some of the

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Speaker 3: other receivers that are even in the mix.

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Speaker 2: Like, Hunter's not going to be the number one receiver

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Speaker 3: That's why I probably have Tet ahead of them. That

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Speaker 3: tier two I guess i'd go shucked Tet Hunter Hunter's

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Speaker 2: I think I would have all those running backs, including

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Speaker 2: Hampton in that group in that tier two guys.

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Speaker 3: I keep avoiding Judkins because I think their offense.

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Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be bad. But if he gets

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty carries, I will go a real

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Speaker 2: long one. Yeah, he's got to probably end up with

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Speaker 3: And you think Henderson out touches, not out carries, out

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Speaker 3: touches Remandre, Yes, I think he catches him.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think he does just overall because it's the

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Speaker 2: first time that Ramandra Stevenson puts the ball on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Right right, it's done. I mean they said a lot

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Speaker 3: by drafting you know Henderson.

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Speaker 2: Where they did in that group is that they're not

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Speaker 2: the ones that gave him money.

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Speaker 3: No, right right, any other backs, I mean there's always

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Speaker 2: Away, somebody will emerge and have a few weeks here

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Speaker 3: That I'm putting money on at the moment or anything.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Caleb Johnson's not terrible, a terrible bet.

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Speaker 2: If he puts up the kind of numbers that again

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Speaker 2: they posted on ESPN earlier this week, if he has

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Speaker 2: almost one thousand yards and seven touchdown catches and twenty

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Speaker 2: to twenty five catches, he'll be in the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I tweeted this, let's go get the numbers right.

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Speaker 3: So so, first off, Jalen Warren in any game he's

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Speaker 3: been in, never have fifty I never had fifty percent

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Speaker 3: of the carries in any game, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: but just about that's on a negative. By the way, Twitter,

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Speaker 3: so dumb, put I put this Twitter, You're right, I

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Speaker 3: put this out. Jalen Warren has never had more than

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Speaker 3: fifty percent of the team's designated carries in a game

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Speaker 3: in his career. Why do you hate Jalen Warren so much?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, geez, it's just a fact. If you might

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Speaker 2: Nine time, two hundred and ninety nine times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I love Grant, but that's him and Williams almost

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Speaker 3: It sure feels that way.

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Speaker 2: I just think that with Harmon, that when they got Harmon,

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Speaker 2: Everybody I've talked to him mean I more than that.

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Speaker 3: Interesting. Those Rookie of Year honors are good stuff too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it gives you an idea of who might stand

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Speaker 3: No, this position's tough. Yeah, I mean I think you

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why he went with Williams and

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Speaker 3: Well that's inflated.

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Speaker 2: All tackles are not created equal.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt I wanted to take a look.

444
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Speaker 2: We always talk about how you can't necessarily grade a

445
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Speaker 2: draft until it has a few seasons under its belt.

446
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Speaker 3: It properly right.

447
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 2: I wanted to take a look at this from even

448
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: a different perspective. I want to take a look back

449
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 2: at the twenty twenty one NFL Draft. I'm looking right

450
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 2: now at the grades given to that that rookie class

451
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Speaker 2: and twenty twenty way oh no, after the first season. Okay,

452
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,479
Speaker 2: so even the first season of a rookie draft can

453
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,120
Speaker 2: look much different than it does, no doubt a few

454
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,040
Speaker 2: years down the line.

455
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Speaker 3: That's fair.

456
00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 2: This is and I'm not picking on these guys. General

457
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 2: Felice and Nick Schuk did this for NFL dot Com,

458
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 2: and they did it a year after after that first year.

459
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 2: So the Kansas City Chiefs got an A, got Nick Bolton,

460
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 2: nice Creed Humphrey. These are both second round picks. Joshua

461
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 2: can Do, Noah Gray, Cornell Pile who's a wide receiver,

462
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 2: and Trey Smith the guard.

463
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 3: I think that ends up being an a You get

464
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 3: two high end starting offensive lineman and a really good linebacker. Yeah, okay,

465
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 3: so that that one held up. Yeah, Now, I don't

466
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 3: hold us against him, But the reason Trey Smith wasn't

467
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 3: a second round pick was because he had.

468
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: Hit The Denver Broncos got an A minus Patrick's certain

469
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: at number nine overall. They took Javonte Williams at thirty five.

470
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Speaker 3: Not a terrible pick, but the injury derailed him.

471
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Speaker 2: Quinn Miners in round three. Okay, with Baron Browning in

472
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Speaker 2: round three, Caden Stern's safety Jamar Johnson. Those are both

473
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Speaker 2: fifth round picks. Seth Williams in round six, Carrie Vincent,

474
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 2: Jonathan Cooper and Marquis Spencer in round seven.

475
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Speaker 3: Minors a certainer, two of the best in the league.

476
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: Honestly, if you're looking at this now, I might put

477
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Speaker 2: that draft above Kansas City's.

478
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 3: Certains, the most valuable of any of them.

479
00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 2: Cooper and Cooper and Browned two good edge guys there.

480
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Speaker 2: Miners is a.

481
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Speaker 3: I'd take Minors over Smith, Miners or some freezer by

482
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Speaker 3: the tie.

483
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean he came out with me.

484
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 3: Patrick, you got four starters and one's a defensive MVP.

485
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Right. Three the Dolphins got a name minus the

486
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Speaker 2: two first round draft picks, Jalen Waddle Jalen Phillips.

487
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 3: Feel bad for Phillips he kissed can't stay on the field.

488
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 2: And round two they got Javon Holland.

489
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a pretty good start.

490
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Speaker 2: He's the perfect example of when people talk about Well,

491
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 2: he's not on your team anymore, so that doesn't you know,

492
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: he must have been a bust.

493
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Speaker 3: He didn't extend him, so he's a bust.

494
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Speaker 2: No, sometimes you just.

495
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Speaker 3: Signed for like eighteen million.

496
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, uh, Liam Mike and Bunny right, Liam miken

497
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: bergs Hunter Long the tight end.

498
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 3: It's not even with him anymore, right, he was part

499
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 3: of the Yeah, weirdly.

500
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 2: Larnel Coleman offensive tackle, Jared Doakes a running back in

501
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: round seven and as an undrafted pre agent, they got

502
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Speaker 2: Robert Jones. They got a name minus for that draft

503
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 2: started strong. First three picks were all good. Yeah, yeah,

504
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 2: Holland can't stay on the field, Phillips, I should say.

505
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: So, Yeah, that holds up.

506
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: Detroit got a name minus Penney Sewell at seven overall.

507
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

508
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: Levi overs Ozo Rique in the second round to pick

509
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:48,200
Speaker 2: forty one, Alee McNeil in the third round, Effetti Melifanu

510
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 2: at one oh one, A mon Ross Saint Brown in

511
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Speaker 2: round four.

512
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Speaker 3: That may be the best one yet.

513
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: Derek Barnes in round four, Jamar Jefferson the running back.

514
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Speaker 2: In round seven, they didn't have anything in between four

515
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 2: and seven undrafted guys. They got Jerry Jacobs, Tommy Kramer,

516
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 2: Ryan McCullum, A J. Parker, Riley Patterson brock Wright, all

517
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 2: of whom played games that year.

518
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 3: Okay, so they brought those guys up because they did something.

519
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: You got Pin Soul, Ali McNeil, and a monross Aint Brown.

520
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: You got two starting defensive tackles, the best right tackle

521
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: in the league, and a Pro Bowl perennial Pro Bowl.

522
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: Receiver Tennis widers.

523
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's strong.

524
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Speaker 2: That might be number one.

525
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: I think it's number one. Yeah, there's some good ones though.

526
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Five by Cincinnati, of course, they got Jamar Chase

527
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:41,959
Speaker 2: and fifth overall second round Jackson Carmen. Round three they

528
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: got Joseph Asai.

529
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 3: They're still trying to figure him out.

530
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: On round four, cam Sample edge rusher. At one twenty two,

531
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: they got Tyler Shelvin, a defensive tackle. One thirty nine,

532
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: Deontay Smith, a guard. Round five Evan McPherson.

533
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 3: The kicker, he's your second best pick.

534
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: Round six was Trey Hill the center, and Chris Evans

535
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: is a running back. And they also got Wyatt Hubert

536
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: in round seven. That one didn't hold up very well.

537
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: Just one guy, yo, You got one player and a kicker.

538
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 3: You got a superstar and that's it.

539
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a round five kick that you picked at one, then.

540
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 3: You would have got sold instead if the Lions, Yeah,

541
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: third Chase.

542
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: You know they had a bunch of picks, a.

543
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 3: Bunch of picks. All those defensive misses missus over and over.

544
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, six was the Patriots. They also got a name

545
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: minus Mac Jones that didn't hold up very well.

546
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 3: His rookie year was good.

547
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: His rookieyear was good. Christian Barmore in round two.

548
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: That's blood clots. That's unfortunate, but that's.

549
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: That's a miss though at this point. Yeah, Ronnie Perkins

550
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: an outside linebacker in round three at ninety six, Nope,

551
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: round four or Mandree Stevenson. Okay, you know, round five

552
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 2: at one seventy seven, Cameron mcgrone a linebacker, Round six safety,

553
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: Josh Bledsoe one ninety seven was William Sherman, an offensive tackle,

554
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 2: and round seven was Trey Nixon by far the worst

555
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 2: one that might be an.

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Speaker 3: F ye to this point, Mac Jones, the a lot

557
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 3: of these guys aren't like the still hope for bar

558
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: Moore and they gave him money and who knows but

559
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 3: man but man a lot of these guys aren't what

560
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: he used to be. You know. That's a rough one.

561
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: Round seven the number seven the Cowboys. They got Michaeh

562
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: Parsons as well.

563
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: Draft. Yeah, that's just a good draft.

564
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: Lift Kelvin Joseph the cornerback at in round two.

565
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: I think he's more or less been a starter. Yeah.

566
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: Well, ohso Diggi Zoo on round three, it picked seventy five.

567
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 3: They had three gave him big contract.

568
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: They had three picks in the third, Chauncey Golston at

569
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Speaker 2: eighty four and nay Shawn Wright another cornerback at ninety

570
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Speaker 2: nine at one fifteen. And round four they had two

571
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Speaker 2: of the two picks there, Jabriel Cox the linebacker at

572
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Speaker 2: one thirty eight, Josh Ball on offensive tackle. Round five

573
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: was Simmi Fojoko wide receiver, Round six Quentin Bohanna defensive tackle. Rounds.

574
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: Also in round six was Israel Mukalmu and round seven

575
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: was Matt Faranok.

576
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 3: Parsons. It's kind of like the Bengals almost a superstar,

577
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: and Zo was a good player and they actually franchised

578
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: him and then extended him. So, I mean he's legit.

579
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: The Brown's got a b plus. They were eighth overall,

580
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 2: Greg Newsom Okay, Jeremiah Wosu Cormo in it's the second round.

581
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 3: Looking a little little rougher than he used to.

582
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 2: Round three was Anthony Schwartz. Oh yeah, pick ninety one.

583
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 2: Round four James Hudson, the offensive tackle backup. Also in

584
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: round four was Tommy Togii, defensive.

585
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: Tackle, big nose tackle type.

586
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: Round five they had two picks, Tony Fields, a linebacker

587
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 2: and Richard Lecante the safety. And in round six they

588
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: had to pick Dimitric Felton the running back.

589
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: Pretty bad, I mean, Newsom and j Oka are worth

590
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 3: the picks. I guess Newsom's a good player. I didn't

591
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: realize until the other day that you mentioned how bad

592
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: Jok's injury is.

593
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: Right now, and he might have played all this year.

594
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's a smaller guy too.

595
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: Number nine overall, also getting a B plus the Eagles

596
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: DeVante Smith at ten Okay in the second round at

597
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: thirty seven, Landon Dickerson two hits. Round three, Milton Williams

598
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: at seventy three, another one of those things. Well they

599
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: didn't re sign him to a contract.

600
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: You much think he's like one of the highest pai

601
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: different tackles in the league, just like Holland. But after

602
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: year one, Milton Williams wasn't doing anything.

603
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 2: No nothing at that point. Yeah, when they were were

604
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 2: putting this together.

605
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: Nothing.

606
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: Round four was Zech Macpherson, the cornerback. Round five Kenneth

607
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: game One, another one of those guys. Well he must

608
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: think he's not he's not with the Eagles anymore in

609
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: the league doing stuff. Round six they had three picks,

610
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: Marlin to a polo two, Tarron Jackson, a defensive end,

611
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: Jacobi Stevens, a linebacker. Round seven was defensive end Patrick Johnson.

612
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I was I was wondering if that was the

613
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: Melatta draft. No, No, top was good. Yeah, first three picks,

614
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 3: first three picks. Game wells it was a hit. Yeah,

615
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: Okay they would probably, I mean they didn't change a

616
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: whole lot. Yeah.

617
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: That was the year after they took Jalen Rager in

618
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 2: the first round.

619
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: By the way, they had an awful receiver history for

620
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: by the Trader for A. J. Brown.

621
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: The tenth best draft that year according to this after

622
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: the first first season was the Houston Texans. They didn't

623
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 2: make a pick until round three. Thinking of the first

624
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: they had two third round picks Davis.

625
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 3: Mills, who became a starter, but.

626
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: He started eleven games as a rookie.

627
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: Lifetime backup at best.

628
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: Nico Collins Nice at that point hadn't done anything, done

629
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: anything yet. Right in round five Brevin Jordan the tight end,

630
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: Garrett Wallow the linebacker. Round six was Roy Lopez defensive tackle.

631
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 3: Wow, how did they get this?

632
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: And the notable free agent was Jimmy Morsey. I don't

633
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: know why they were tenth.

634
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, how would they because of Davis Mills, because the

635
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 3: Mills being a starter and showing a little promise, Because

636
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: Nico's is the draft class and he didn't break out

637
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 3: until a third His rookie year wasn't anything. Now it

638
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: looks better now than it did then, right right, And

639
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: I still don't know that I put that tenth overall.

640
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure we could come up with other ones. Yeah,

641
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: it was really really only got Nico out of it.

642
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: The Raiders were eleven after the first season. Listen to

643
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: these picks. Alex Leatherwood at seventeen because he started all

644
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: seventeen games that year for the Raiders.

645
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: And then they got cut a year later or whatever.

646
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: Horrible Trey Von Morigg in the second round forty three,

647
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: Malcolm Coons at seventy nine. That's also okay, divine divine

648
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: dioblo so so yeah. Tyree Gillespie is safety in round four,

649
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: Nate Hobbs in round five, cornerback, and the center Jimmy Morrissey,

650
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: who they cut. He had five started five games or

651
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 2: started four games with Houston.

652
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: They got multiple starters out of it, but the.

653
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: First he took Leatherwood in the first round.

654
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at their draft history in

655
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: that neighborhood, it's like rugs and our net, and I mean,

656
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: so many misses in the first round.

657
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: The Steelers got to be They were ranked twelfth. Najie

658
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: Harrison round one, Pat Fryer Muth in round two, solid,

659
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: Kendrick Green in round three, problem Dan Moore in round four.

660
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: Held up pretty well, right, that's a win.

661
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: Undred The one hundred and twenty eighth pick in the

662
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: draft was a four year left starting left tackle for you.

663
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a twenty million dollars player. Yeah, whether

664
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: you like it or not, I mean, that's that's a

665
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 3: that's a hit.

666
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 2: Buddy Johnson at pick one, one fifty six. They remember

667
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: they didn't have one there they traded into it to

668
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: get Isaiah laudermilk Ah, okay. Round six Quincy roche Mm hmmm.

669
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: Round seven was Trey Norwood and Presley Harvin.

670
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: Decent. It was okay, it was okay. Yeah. Friarman is

671
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 3: probably your best get Nause He's worth it. Dan Moore

672
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: is definitely worth it for the price.

673
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're gonna get compicks.

674
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm not saying yeah yeah.

675
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Uh. In thirteen was the Chargers Rashaun Slater at thirteen

676
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: overall win a Sante Samuel Junior in round two signs

677
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: still unsigned.

678
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 3: Oh, how to judge that one?

679
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh Palmer in round three with Trey McKitty.

680
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: Palmer's okay.

681
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: Chris Rump in round four.

682
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 3: It's just a weird off of wall question. Like if

683
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: you draft a receiver in the third round he turns

684
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: into Palmer, you're happy or not.

685
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: He's just seventy seventh pick and he's okay. Okay, that's

686
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: like middle of the road. Yeah right, I mean it's

687
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: not a miss, but it's not a hit.

688
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: A lot of Day two receivers are better than that.

689
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: You know. Chris Rump in round four, the outside linebacker

690
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: Brendan James, an offensive tackle in round five, Nick Neeman

691
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: and Larry Rowntree a linebacker and running back in round six,

692
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: and Mark Webb Junior, a defensive back in round seven.

693
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: Really only Slater unless I miss somebody. I mean they

694
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: got stuff out of Samuel, but it's weird that he's

695
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 3: not signed.

696
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if there's injury and they I

697
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: mean they got some things that Palmer's.

698
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 3: Been okay, Yeah, but yeah, one big hit though.

699
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Packers are We're fourteenth at that point. Eric

700
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: Stokes in round one, that's a mess. Josh Myers the

701
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: center in round two, below average center, Yeah, Amari Rodgers

702
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: in round three at eighty five. Round four, they took

703
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: Royce Newman, a guard.

704
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: These are all bad.

705
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, he started sixteen games that year. You know.

706
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 3: Obviously.

707
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: Round five, Tredell Slaton the nose tackle, Schamar Jean Charles cornerback.

708
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: In round six they took had two picks Cole Van

709
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 2: Lannon and Isaiah McDuffie, got Garden a linebacker.

710
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: This is a bad draft.

711
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: And then in round seven Kylon Hill, a running back.

712
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 3: Real bad draft.

713
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 2: That's a pretty bad draft.

714
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 3: That's a pretty bad draft.

715
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: And the best player, the best player you got out

716
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: of it was Josh Myers.

717
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, center shouldn't be that hard to find. He's a

718
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: below average one.

719
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were coming out of that season. They

720
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: were fourteenth.

721
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 3: M I mean, I guess they had a couple of

722
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 3: guys play early.

723
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: Fifteenth was the Falcons. Kyle Pitts fourth overall, that has

724
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: an aged real well second round Richie Grant or yeah,

725
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: Richie Grant is safety, Jalen Mayfield, an offensive lineman in

726
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 2: the third round, Darren Hall, and Drew Dolman in the

727
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 2: fourth player.

728
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not ready to shut the door on Pits,

729
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: but has.

730
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: An age grade fourth overall, right, yeah, in round five,

731
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 2: take one Graham a defensive lineman, Ogan dj at Eddie

732
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: Ogin DJ in the fifth round, and Avery Williams cornerback,

733
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: Frank Darby in the sixth round. And they didn't have

734
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: a seventh rounder, but they did sign as Felipe Franks and.

735
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: You can remember too. I mean they're picking fourth overall

736
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: in every round. I mean they were bad.

737
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, four forty sixty eight, one oh eight. Those are

738
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: premium picks.

739
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: I mean Pitt's had a thousand yards of a rookie year,

740
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: you hardly like any touchdown one touchdown one time, yeah

741
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: or something. But everyone was so excited about him at

742
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: that point. And then no, let's go to the bottom. Now.

743
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: Who the junkos.

744
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: At thirty two coming out of their rookie year was

745
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: drum roll please, a lot.

746
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: To learn here? You know the Seahawks quick?

747
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 2: You know right now? The Seahawks only had three picks.

748
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: Oh that was that year.

749
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that. They didn't get much.

750
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: They got Dwayne Skridge at fifty six, Trey Brown the

751
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: cornerback in round four at one thirty seven, and Stone

752
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: forsythe an offensive tackle in round six.

753
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: Played a little, but it's hard to give him a

754
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 3: hard time for they for three. Yeah.

755
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 2: Now, this team had a bunch of picks, and this

756
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: is how you end up having the first overall pick.

757
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: The Titans. Oh they got a D plus Caleb Farley.

758
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 3: That was like, yeah, like a real high risk first round.

759
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: The second round was Dylan ra Dunes.

760
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 3: No, he's been a liability.

761
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: Round three was they had two Monty Rice and Elijah Moulden.

762
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: That's bad work.

763
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: Round four was Des Fitzpatrick and Rashew Weaver.

764
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: Bad work.

765
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: Round six Racy McMath a wide receiver, and Brady Breeze.

766
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: They had all the cool names. And yeah, that was ugly.

767
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 3: That's real bad.

768
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: And you had a bunch of picks, and again premium picks.

769
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: You had five for the top one hundred and five

770
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: of the top one oh nine, noting nothing to show

771
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: for it.

772
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: That's where you're at now.

773
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: Thirty was the Colts quit he pay that's.

774
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: Still kind of be determined.

775
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, dyo ah yeah, bingo.

776
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: Or bingo bo. The Bears just gave him more money.

777
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: Than Round four was Kylon Grantson. They didn't have a

778
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: third round pick. Sean Davis the safety in round five,

779
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: Sam Elliger a quarterback round six, Michael Strahan the wide

780
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: receiver in round seven, along with Will Fries Will Fries, Right,

781
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: I mean it's a starter, yeah in round seven. Yeah,

782
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it got a little better. It

783
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: got better.

784
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 3: It would be it would be better thirty first.

785
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: No, it wouldn't be there, but it also is not great. Right,

786
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: And let's take a look here at number twenty nine,

787
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,479
Speaker 2: which was the Rams. They never first round pick because

788
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: they were never one picks uh two to two at

789
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: well at fifty seven, Yeah, Ernest Jones at one oh three.

790
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 3: He's bounced around, but he's a good linebacker.

791
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: For three picks. In round four, Bobby Brown, a defensive tackle.

792
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: Maybe he's made some money.

793
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 2: Robert Rochelle a cornerback, Jacob Harris a tight end. Round

794
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: five was Ernest Brown the defensive end. Round seven Jake Funk,

795
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: Ben Scronic, and Chris Garrett.

796
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe the worst anymore, but it wasn't

797
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 3: a tremendous They never first.

798
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 2: They never first round pick, but they had a bunch

799
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: of picks.

800
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 3: They had a bunch of picks, as they always did

801
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: in that stretch first, but they played the call game

802
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 3: really well. Interesting.

803
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: The team of his twenty eighth is, believe it or not,

804
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: the Jaguars, Okay, Trevor Lawrence.

805
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: I said, was that the Lawrence draft. He was first over.

806
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 2: And they had Travis eight in to finish twenty eighth.

807
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: When you had two first round draft picks, including the

808
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 2: number one overall pick in the first pick in every round,

809
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 2: Tyson Campbell, it looks.

810
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: Better than that. Now, it wouldn't be twenty eight.

811
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: No, they got that. If you look at it, actually

812
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: there's some actually some better pick cables playerah Tyson Campbell

813
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: at thirty three, Walker Little at forty five.

814
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 3: They gave him money.

815
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 2: Andre Cisco at sixty five.

816
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: Somebody just gave him money.

817
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jay t Fele at one o six, Jordan Smith

818
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 2: and outside linebacker at won twenty one, Luke Farrell at

819
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: won forty five, and Jalen Campbell wide receiver in round six.

820
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: Not horrible, but you had a lot of resources. You

821
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: had everybody with you.

822
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: You had four of the top forty five picks and

823
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: five of the top sixty five, including one including number

824
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: one overall. Yeah. Like, I don't know, the Lord should

825
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: have been number one with a bullet.

826
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like, I'm sure like Mels grades that come out

827
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: on my day, they were one or two.

828
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean.

829
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: Two first round picks including the Golden Boy.

830
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

831
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's higher than that.

832
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: Now it would be now or no question, but would

833
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: it be markedly higher if we look back on it.

834
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 3: It'd be a bit higher than some of those top ten.

835
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: It wouldn't be twenty eight, It'd be in the top

836
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: fifteen somewhere. I'd say camp Cisco is a good player

837
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: Atn's little, okay, Yeah, I mean Lawrence is at least

838
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,240
Speaker 2: an average starter.

839
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you're.

840
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 2: Going to put David at the detections up there for

841
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: Davis Mills, my god, you get.

842
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: About right right like that, that class is better than

843
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: the Texans and even with Nico. Yeah, yeah, wow, it

844
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: does change.

845
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: It's just you know again, so when you look at

846
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: those draft classes, even after the first year, you don't know.

847
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: And Steeler is a perfect example of their rookie class

848
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 3: last year. Yeah, there's a lot of incomplete grades on that,

849
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: a lot.

850
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: Of incomplete game. I'm looking at twenty seven on here

851
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: is the Cardinals with Zavon Collins, rond Dell Moore, Marco Wilson,

852
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 2: Victor Doo, mccajay, Tiger Gowan, James Wiggins, and Michael Manet.

853
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if nobody there they got nothing. That

854
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: might be the worst draft yet.

855
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: There might be zero guys on the roster still.

856
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: And a lot of these guys aren't even in the

857
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: league anymore.

858
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know where half those dudes are. Zaven

859
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 3: Collins might be still a card He think he's a.

860
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: Card I think he's still a Cardinal. But they don't

861
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: know what to do with them.

862
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 3: But they've just they just drafted linebackers and the like crazy, right,

863
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 3: so it just it does change quick.

864
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

865
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: We mentioned this the other day too. Just even if

866
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: if you just use Steeler drafts. I love getting excited

867
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: about a draft class, but it's probably not as good

868
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 3: as you think. You know, if you there's a lot

869
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 3: of misses every for every team, it's not a Steeler thing.

870
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll do that in our number two in the

871
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: second segment, we'll take a look back at some Steeler

872
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: draft classes of the.

873
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: Past and was it a good one or not?

874
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So anyways, let's get to a break. He is

875
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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877
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Speaker 2: I will be back with more right after this. At least.

878
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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back on Dale Lolly. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt Nick Cassario was on the up

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Speaker 2: in Adams today and said that they tried to move

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Speaker 2: up in the first round of the draft. Remember they

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Speaker 2: were picking twenty fifth and that was one of the

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Speaker 2: teams that we looked at pre draft and said, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe that would be a team that the Steelers might

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Speaker 2: be able to move back with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So they thought about going up. It end up

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Speaker 3: inevitably going back. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So we tried to get up and teams started calling

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Speaker 2: us around what do you say here picks nineteen eighteen,

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Speaker 2: nineteen twenty range. We started to get some calls about

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Speaker 2: our pick, so we were putting information up on the board.

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Speaker 2: They had three they actually had three different traded scenarios

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Speaker 2: that were on the board at one time. They were

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Speaker 2: prepared to also draft a player obviously.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and then they ended up moving back.

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Speaker 2: He said, When I think when Minnesota picked at twenty

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Speaker 2: four and they picked, we were able to consummate the

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Speaker 2: trade with the Giants, so we scooted back there in

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Speaker 2: the second round and then had that second pick to

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Speaker 2: start Friday.

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Speaker 3: What I found interesting about that little section of the

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Speaker 3: draft is I'm sure if the Giants called twenty five Houston, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they called twenty four right Vikings, who hardly picks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they took Jackson the guard out.

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Speaker 2: Of they could have gotten at thirtieth.

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Speaker 3: They probably could have waited a little bit on him.

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Speaker 3: I know that there was an O Line tax, I

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Speaker 3: mean there was you to go earlier on these guys,

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Speaker 3: but I didn't understand why the Vikings would make the

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Speaker 3: pick make the same trade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just one of those strange things. Yeah, sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 2: drafting or making draft day trades much more difficult oftentimes

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Speaker 2: than the way we do it when we that for sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who do you think Houston would have been trading

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Speaker 3: up for if they were trying to get to like

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Speaker 3: sixteen seventeen eighteen they.

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Speaker 2: Ended up taking.

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Speaker 3: They took the two Iowa state receivers, Yeah, and Ursery.

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Speaker 3: They didn't pick until the second round.

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Speaker 2: That was probably one of the one of the wide

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Speaker 2: receivers in they wanted to go up.

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Speaker 3: To get maybe Abuka maybe or yeah possibly, I mean

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Speaker 3: I would think it'd be O Line or I mean

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Speaker 3: what tackles were falling in that area? Who I don't

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Speaker 3: think any really Yeah, not really they were there, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: but they could have taken them in twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I had to be one of the wide

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Speaker 2: receivers and Tampa took Buka.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe maybe that's the target. Yeah, could add up.

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Speaker 3: So just an like little draft g gms come out

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Speaker 3: and actually tell you the truth, like we tried.

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Speaker 2: To ten often or should they, but.

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Speaker 3: They heard the other day. The Rams were infatuated with

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Speaker 3: rock Bowers. Couldn't get there last year. This year they

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Speaker 3: were infatuated with Loveland. Couldn't get there. It's far jumped.

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Speaker 3: So we'll trade down and take Ferguson. You know, we're

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Speaker 3: taking a tight end to the way.

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Speaker 2: I guess back to what we're talking about with the

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Speaker 2: quarterbacks next year with the Rams. Everybody has the Rams

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Speaker 2: moving up into the top five to get a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean that might be the eighteenth and

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Speaker 3: twenty fifth pick might not get you.

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Speaker 2: That might not get you there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know. So it's funny. We've been

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Speaker 3: doing a series and today we talked about NFC West

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Speaker 3: and the Rams really didn't get much at all from

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Speaker 3: this draft. I mean, if Ferguson's your best prize and

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Speaker 3: I didn't like there after the picks after that, I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying that they didn't win the Falcons trade, but

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Speaker 3: kind of walked away with this draft without much.

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Speaker 2: Well, they put themselves in a situation and the Steelers

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Speaker 2: are going to be in that same situation going into

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Speaker 2: next year, where when you have a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: those day two picks, Yeah, you've got that good cheap

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Speaker 2: labor over four years, and so you can afford to

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Speaker 2: be a little more aggressive in a draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or sort of sit one out, yeah, half sit

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Speaker 3: one out if it pays off down the road. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So just something to keep in mind for Steeler fans, like.

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Speaker 3: No, that's true. It'll be a different world having those picks,

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Speaker 3: all those picks is And how much fun are we

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Speaker 3: gonna have doing MOX next year with all those picks,

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Speaker 3: you know? All right?

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Speaker 2: Kidding me, I want to start doing that now, I

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Speaker 2: do it right now. Anyways, that's going to do it

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Speaker 2: for our number one of the drive here on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back with

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Speaker 2: our number two right after this