1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I just heard from Todd. These were words 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: I did not want to hear from Fritzie. Hey, I'm 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: gonna be in the studio tomorrow. Thanks Todd. How do 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: you feel about that? We feel okay. I kind of 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: like the freedom here, I know, but they're cleaning things up. 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not going to do it. The driveway 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: is looking fresh, and I will be sprightly and ready 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: back at my desk for some awkward conversation. And you 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: did not show all that driveway. I did not know 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: you did. I waved to the guy I'm polite through 12 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: the window. We had a lot of snow, and uh 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: we got snow beers after the show with all of 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: my new friends here, the back room guys, and we 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: got burgers that are on the trigger right now. The 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: Dannets are working remotely from their homes. But I want 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: to thank the guys who did come in, the big German, Rob, 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: the intern, Alan, Marvin, and Uh and Weeks our cameraman 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: who's also been shoveling snow all morning long. And Dylan 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: can't forget good old Dylan. But thank you guys for 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: coming in we got. I think we have the official measurement, 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: and I don't know how much snow we had. I 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: said it wasn't going to be a foot, and then 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: we went the over under was a foot of snow 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: here with our north easter. Todd, you remember what yours was? Fine? 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: Was seven point three. I believe seven point three. That's mcleven. 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Do you remember yours? I think Todd was a point. 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,559 Speaker 1: I was eight point four, which made no sense. Seaton, 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: I think I was nine and a half. I want 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: to say, all right, and Paulie, I think I guessed 31 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: eleven even. All right, it's ten and a half inches 32 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: of snow here outside the man cave. Now it's closest 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: to it. Now, can you go over? Seaton? You were Seaton, 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: you were coming up with the rules on this. I 35 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: think it's isn't the rule traditionally closest without going over? Paul? Sorry? Yeah, 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: were those verbally addrest yesterday on the show? Because if not, 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: I have to go check the table and argue this 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: for weeks and weeks. Yeah, or you'll bring in a lawyer. 39 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: H'm the worst, Yes you are. Didn't you bring in 40 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: like a dartmouth lawyer? One time to argue with mclove. Yeah, McLellin. 41 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I think the bet was who is the player? Come 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: Adam Morrison? Oh no, it was what's that guy at 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: Doug McDermott. Would it be Adam Morrison named first? And 44 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 1: we argued for about NBA NBA Draft when I think 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Adam Morrison or Doug McDermott was being drafted. McDermott I 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: guaranteed that during the Doug McDermott draft profile they would 47 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: reference Adam Morrison, and reference usually means verbally reference. They 48 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: didn't reference Adam Morrison. They showed a video of Adam 49 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Morrison and actually one of the guys said, he's not 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: an Adam Morrison type. 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This program brought to you by Peacock. 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: You can download the app and watch this program for free. 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: You can also watch Yellowstone or all the episodes of 62 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: The Office original series. Say by the Bell streaming now 63 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: exclusively on Peacock starts streaming now. Poll question McLevin. By 64 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: the way, twenty three years ago today, two players faced 65 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: off for the very first time. One ended up with 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: thirty three points, the other one with thirty six. The 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: younger player thirty three, the older player thirty six. If 68 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: you guessed a nineteen year old Kobe Bryant against Michael Jordan, 69 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: you are correct. Kobe went for thirty three, Michael went 70 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: for thirty six, Right, mcleven. What do you have for me? 71 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: So we put up a new poll. Would you rather 72 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: be an NFLGM or the Monday Night Football analyst Lewis 73 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: Riddick's conundrum fifty LM Yeah, I would. I would want 74 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: to jump into that. If you're going into a situation, 75 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, the Texans or the Lions are interested in 76 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick or he's going to get an interview with them, 77 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: and if he gets the job, then he leaves the 78 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football booth. Chris Spielman's involved with the Lions now, 79 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: and if Lewis comes in, Barry Sanders involved with the Lions. 80 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: They're trying. And if you ever brought that team to 81 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: life and they actually competed and they got past the 82 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs, maybe they played in an 83 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: NFC title game. I mean that that's one of those 84 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: last franchises we talk about franchises, you know, if the 85 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: Clippers would win a title padres have been to the 86 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: World Series, Like, there's certain teams where you go, gosh, 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: if they went back or they got there for the 88 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: first time, how big that would be. And the Lions 89 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: are on the short list of football teams that if 90 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: they ever had that kind of success, how big that 91 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: would be. So I understand that I understand that Lewis 92 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: would be attracted to them. What else do you have 93 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: in Lovin by way? Do you remember when Scott Pioli 94 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: asked you, I don't remember it was on air, off air, 95 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: what do you think I should do? Go back to 96 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: the NFL or stay in TV. Is it an individual 97 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: basis where you would advise people or is it do 98 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: you have a general rule when athletes ask you stuff 99 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: like that. I get asked by either former coaches or 100 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: somebody in the front office or broadcasters at other networks 101 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: for some reason. I'm a sounding board here and I 102 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: don't want to mention some of the people who don't 103 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: want their names mentioned that they've asked me for advice 104 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: and should I stay or should I go. And Scott 105 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: Pioli was in the front office. He worked with the Patriots, 106 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: worked with the Falcons, and he wanted to get into broadcasting. 107 00:05:55,839 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: And I had good conversations with Scott, and I said, look, 108 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: you're going to jump into something that's really hard to do. 109 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: I think there are guys who give the impression it's 110 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: easy because they just turn on a microphone and they're 111 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: able to do it. And you know what, Chris collins 112 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: Worth or Tony Romo or Troy Aikman or run down 113 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: the list of analysts here. It's not easy. And I 114 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: said to Scott, you got to have opinions. And I 115 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: think that was the hardest part for him, is to 116 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: have an opinion and be concise. And you know, I 117 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: said to him at one point, because I think he 118 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: realized that he wasn't doing well in TV and he 119 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: was honest about it. He said, tell me what you think, 120 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: and I said, I would look at going back into football. 121 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: I don't think this. I don't think you're cut out 122 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: for this. There have been people at networks that I've 123 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: said stay. For the most part, I'll just say stay 124 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: because everybody thinks, boy, I want what you have. I'd 125 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: like to have a man cave. I'd like to have 126 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: all that freedom. And I go, you don't realize what's 127 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: happened in the previous thirteen years. I mean, everybody wants this. 128 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: But when we started out, we were in my attic, 129 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: and you have to understand that we didn't have anything. 130 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: We were on twelve stations and we were in my attic. 131 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: Not exactly. Boy, you made it and anchors at other networks. 132 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: You know Tom Rinaldi, whom I went to management, I 133 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: don't know how many years ago when I was at 134 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: ESPN and I said, I just saw this guy on 135 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: CNN and you should hire him tom Rinaldi, And they 136 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: eventually did, but it wasn't based off my recommendation. I 137 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: think I just said, look, I'm gonna co sign on this. 138 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: I think he's really good. And Tom Rinaldi came in 139 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: and he knew that I had spoken up on his behalf. 140 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: I'd never met him, and he got the job at 141 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: ESPN and I just saw where he left for Fox. Now, 142 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: it's not like he reached out and said, hey, what 143 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: do you think I should do? Because there has to 144 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: be a reason why he's going to Fox and leaving 145 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: ESPN because you don't have that daily show like Sports 146 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: Center where your features can air, you know, college game Day, 147 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: he was a staple. You know. It feels like Fox 148 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: is really going to try to amp up that big 149 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: noon kick off, the Big Ten. Have him do that 150 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: contribute to that, the World Series, a super Bowl, maybe golf. 151 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: I think they still have the US Open. They have 152 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: some golf there. But when you leave the mothership, you 153 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: know you better be ready and going to Fox, and 154 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, I probably got a raise. Maybe he works 155 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: less but is involved in more important things. I don't know, 156 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: but I would have strongly considered if he said, hey, 157 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: what do you think I should do? I'd really want 158 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: to know why you'd leave ESPN. Now, ESPN's laying off 159 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: a ton of people, and morale is probably low because 160 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: of that. But I don't know if that you know 161 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: factors in on what Tom wants to do. You know, 162 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: it's still a great place to work, but you know 163 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: there are places, there are times to leave, and I 164 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: three years too late in my opinion, but you know, 165 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: Tom is probably leaving at the right time for him, 166 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: and it's a great decision for him, you know, if 167 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: you're making it. You know, I don't argue when people 168 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: make a decision, if you make the decision. A lot 169 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: of times we don't get that opportunity to make the decision. 170 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: It's made for us where they go. We don't need 171 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: you anymore. But if you can have leverage, good for 172 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: Tom Rinaldi because he's very good at what he does. Yeah, Paul, 173 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: I thought you had a really good point on the 174 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: Lewis Riddick situation, because when mclovin first brought it up, 175 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: was like, Lewis riddecks the analyst on Monday Night Football 176 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: right now and those jobs come out maybe once in 177 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: a lifetime, unlikely twice. And I thought to myself, I'm 178 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: not leaving Monday Night Football. But then you said, lately 179 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: Monday Football is not the rock that it used to be. 180 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: It's tenuous, it's flowing it it could change really fast. 181 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: They're a good booth, they're doing well, they're getting good reviews, 182 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: but you get a couple GM opportunities if you pass 183 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: on them now. Now, they may not be there in 184 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: three years and there's a new booth and you're like, 185 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: what did I do here? Well, it still feels like 186 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: Chris Fowler and Kirk curb Street have spoken up about 187 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: doing the NFL in interview separate interviews. They've they've mentioned it, 188 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: either they brought it up or it's been brought up, 189 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: and it feels like maybe that's where we're headed. That 190 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: you might have them do Saturday game and then have 191 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: them do a Monday game. And if you want to 192 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: have a super Bowl and ESPN wants to get a 193 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: super Bowl, you're not getting in a super Bowl on ESPN. 194 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: You'll get it on ABC. And if you can promise 195 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, you're getting Herbie and Chris Fowler. It feels 196 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: like that might be the direction that ESPN will eventually 197 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: go in. You know, it's not fair, but then this 198 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: business is not fair. And you can have Brian Greasy 199 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: and if Lewis leaves and it's Steve Levy, and then 200 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: who do you put in there? It's not fair. Yeah, 201 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: but that's that would be the direction I would see 202 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: ESPN going in or ABC. Yeah, McLevin. But Herbie lives 203 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: in the college space six days a week, Like I 204 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: don't understand, like how he can compete with guys who 205 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: are on Lewis Ridicks on NFL TV seven days a week, Like, 206 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: how isn't it gonna be weird dichotomy? I remember when 207 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: Herbie was doing the NFL game, it looked like he'd 208 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: done all this research, but he could tell he didn't 209 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: live at NFL seven days a week. Well, he said 210 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: it was a big challenge there because they're different rule 211 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: change or you know, the rules are different there. But understand, 212 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: he knows more about the players in the NFL than 213 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: almost all of these other analysts because he knew them 214 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: when they were in college. And so you've already done 215 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: homework even you know, before you start to do your homework, 216 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. And I you know, Herbie and 217 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: Fowler professionals. Now they could slip in there, and I 218 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: don't think anybody would go those guys are college guys. 219 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: They're professional broadcasters. Yeah, McLevin, even for the Super Bowl though, 220 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking about, like, I don't know, 221 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: I pictured Troy and Al and Chris, like it feels 222 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: weird for yeah, but who was ESPN gonna play out there? Like, 223 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, if you say Steve Levy and Brian Greasy 224 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: and or you can have Chris Fowler and Kirk curb Street, 225 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: the NFL may say, well, we want something you know, established, 226 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: and people know these two guys. And look, I'm just 227 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: spit bawling here. I don't know, I'm just guessing. As 228 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: much as Herbie and Chris have spoken about this open 229 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 1: to that opportunity, it feels like open to that opportunity 230 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: is a way for ESPN to say to the NFL, Hey, 231 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: by the way, if you allow us to air games 232 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: on ABC, we can promise you this broadcast team. I mean, 233 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: that would be the thought process that I would have 234 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: if I'm ESPN. Yes. Well, it's interesting too about this 235 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: conversation is that, like you bring up a guy like 236 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: Al Michaels, right who's still tied to the NFL right now, 237 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: whose most famous call is from a hockey game, who 238 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: was just honored for his contributions to baseball, you know, 239 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: but you know, but getting Herbie, you know, out and 240 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Chris Fowler out of college foot to the NFL feels 241 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: like a stretch. I wonder if that's like a modern 242 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: day issue. Also, Chris Fowler does tennis. Yeah, I didn't 243 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: hear anybody go he's a football guy. He does tennis, 244 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: he does the majors. They're just you know, Fowler's a 245 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: professional broadcaster. You can plug him into anything and you 246 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 1: know he's going to do a great job. And then Herbie, 247 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: they're football guys. It's not like they're going from college 248 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: football to baseball. They're going from college to the NFL. 249 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: Not that big a leap. Yeah, McLevin Fowler, I'm not 250 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: worried about it. It's Herbie and college because he's gonna 251 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: be doing the national te game. Peyton's out there. You 252 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: don't think if they got a Super Bowl they're going 253 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: to start throwing more money at him. I don't know 254 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: how much more they can give him. The market is 255 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: set with Romo so and from what I'm told, they 256 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: came pretty close to that with Peyton Manning. But Romo 257 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: is not attached to CBS. From the perspective of I 258 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: gotta be on your daily shows. What ESPN does is 259 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: when they hire you. Hey, you're gonna do this job, 260 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: but we need you on Get Up with Greeney, and 261 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: can you do this radio show? And can you do this? Hey? 262 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: Can you be a guest on Pardon the interruption. That's 263 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's where in Steve Young, the Hall of Famer, 264 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: I had discussions with him. I said, look, if you 265 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: go in there and you do Monday Night football, you're 266 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: not just doing Monday Night football. And as long as 267 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: you're okay with that, then them do it. Because I said, 268 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: you got to do all these other shows, and you, 269 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: like Charles Barkley, doesn't have to do anything other than 270 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: t NT, right, that's a pretty good gig. And Charles 271 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: was talking about going to ESPN, and I remember saying 272 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: to him, you got to do a lot of shows, 273 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: not just that show. And and so that that's you know, 274 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: once you sign up, you can't say no. And that's 275 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: what I always tell these analysts or guys who want 276 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: to be an analyst. I always say, know what the 277 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: fine print is, because you're gonna be getting up at 278 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: seven thirty eight o'clock in the morning on Get Up, 279 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna be maybe doing something with Stephen A. 280 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: Smith Sports Center later on, and then you do the 281 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: game that night. That's why they call it the car wash. 282 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: You get in and you know Dan Orlovsky created. This 283 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: is what happens. You get the guys who will put 284 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: in the daily time and then they graduate in. Orlovsky 285 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: has done a wonderful job, just like Mike Golick did, 286 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: just like Sean Salisbury did. I said, you gotta be 287 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: there every single day, and if you're there every day, 288 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: you will get the reps and then you will get elevated. 289 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: Now there's a glass ceiling with guys like that, but 290 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: they are getting a whole lot more airtime because they're 291 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: there every single day. And I even said that to 292 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: Mike Golick's son, Mike Junior. I said, if you're there 293 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: every day, you're already ahead of the game. You're in Bristol, Connecticut. 294 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Not many analysts are gonna go, hey, I want to 295 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: relocate there and be there every single day. Orlovsky went 296 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: to Yukon. He's from the area. Golink moved here. So 297 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: if you're there every day, you get those reps. You're 298 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: on all the time, and that's really important with your 299 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: growth at ESPN. Yeah, Polly you're absolutely right. I can 300 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: remember back in the day, March Shalais was not a 301 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: household another guy. He was a good football player on 302 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: a really good team and got a little notoriety because 303 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: he's one of always guys. But when he was at 304 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: ESPN he started, he was there all day, every day. 305 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: You'd see him in the hallway to seem at the calf. 306 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: He was doing seven or eight shows a day, and 307 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: he made himself reliable. They relied on him and he 308 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: got his career went the right way. Same with Barry Melrose. 309 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: These guys are there every day, and if you're there 310 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: every day, you're in the conversation, you get promoted. And 311 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: that's not everybody's willing to do that. And I've seen 312 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: coaches who come in there and they put in the time, 313 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: and I've seen coaches, former coaches come in there and 314 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: they're just waiting for the phone to ring so they 315 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: can get out of there. That it just just sort 316 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: of a rest stop so they can get another job. 317 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: But you know, a long winded way of saying congratulations 318 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: to Tom Rinaldi, and I hope Lewis Riddick gets that 319 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: opportunity to be a GM in the National Football League. 320 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: We'll talk to Nick Saban, he'll join us. Coming up. 321 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: They have their showdown with Florida coming up this weekend. 322 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: Your phone calls as well. Age seven seven three d 323 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: P show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com. 324 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: Chargers Raiders coming up tonight. I think I think Justin 325 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: Herbert is getting close to Baker Mayfield's single season touchdown 326 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: record for rookies. Is that right, McLevin. Doesn't Baker have 327 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: it at twenty seven? I think you're right? And then, yeah, 328 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean not that that's why you would tune in tonight, 329 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: But you know, I am fascinated with Justin Herbert, with 330 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: how well he has performed and the fact that he 331 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: has performed. If you said he's going to do this, 332 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: what kind of record do you think the Chargers are 333 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: going to have? Right, you would go They're gonna be 334 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: a playoff team. They have been one of the biggest 335 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: disappointments because I got something really, really good in a 336 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, and I got very little out of the 337 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: rest of my team here. Yeah, mcclevin, would you say 338 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: the same thing about Joe Burrow and the Bengals hit though, No, 339 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: the Chargers have a ton of talent. No, I mean 340 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: just said they did really well with their quarterback, even 341 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: though they didn't win a lot of games. Yeah, but 342 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: the Chargers, if I said Joe Burrow was going to 343 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: do this, I'm not gonna go. And the Bengals they 344 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: are going to be in the planoffs because at the 345 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: beginning of the year, I said, you're gonna have three 346 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: teams from the FC North make the playoffs, and that's 347 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: probably what we're going to have. Some how good can 348 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals be the Chargers in that division? I thought 349 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: that they would be better than the Raiders, better than 350 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: the Broncos, and you know, not near the Kansas City Chiefs. 351 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: And Justin Herbert has played he has far exceeded expectations here. 352 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: But that team is going to have a new head 353 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: coach next year. I mean that's really surprising. All Right, 354 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Coming up, we'll uh talk to 355 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: Nick Saban. I got a few things talk to him about, 356 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: including recruiting. They had the number one recruiting class. Again, 357 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: we'll talk to him coming up, and I gotta find 358 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: out does could you see Nick Saban walking around Tuscaloosa 359 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: in a normal year Christmas shopping. Just see him out 360 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: there carrying bags, yes, falling. He seems like he would 361 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: have levels of people that handle the shopping, like many levels. 362 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: I think. I think he's only buying for his wife, 363 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: but but a lot for the wife. I mean, probably, 364 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: but I would think that that would be he just 365 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: goes to a catalog and goes, I'll take that and 366 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: that and that and that and then wrap it up. 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Did we find out Justin Herbert 401 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: is what two away from the rookie record set by 402 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield in twenty eighteen of touchdown passes, Russell Wilson 403 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: had twenty six, Peyton Manning had twenty six, Daniel Jones 404 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: quietly had twenty four. Did Peyton have like twenty six 405 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: touchdowns and eighteen interceptions? Something crazy like that? Mcloven in 406 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: twenty eight interceptions? Wow, that's pretty incredible. All right, we'll 407 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: talk to coach Saban here in a moment. Blaine in 408 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: New York has been holding for a while. Blaine, what's 409 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: on your mind? Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call. 410 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: I just got to say I was watching you yesterday 411 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: and today and my head's about ready to explode. I 412 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: so disagree with your takeoff this college football thing. I mean, 413 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: from my standpoint from watching college football, I know who 414 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: basically can compete for the national championship. I don't want 415 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: to see Coastal Carolina. They played a good game. It 416 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: was entertaining against BYU, But those guys can't compete against 417 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: you know, Clemson and Alabama and the like. They just can't. 418 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: And for Cincinnati they're undefeated. Okay, do it three more 419 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: years and within that schedule, play a top top twenty 420 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: five team and win that, then maybe we can consider 421 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: to move up into that area. How many how many 422 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: of these schools do you think want to play Cincinnati 423 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: right now? How many teams do you think would go 424 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: to Cincinnati to play Cincinnati? Well, I mean, do you 425 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: remember when Alabama blew out Notre Dame? Did you say, boy, 426 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: Notre Dame shouldn't be in a national title game? Remember 427 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: when Clemson Clemson one big blowout Alabama. Like, those blowouts 428 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: happen more than you think here in these big games. 429 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: But my point is you have to if you're not 430 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: in that elite class, you have to demonstrate it, just 431 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: like the Zaga did. They were No one handed him 432 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: them the number one ranking that they have now. They 433 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: played tough schedules year in, year out and earned it. No, no, no, 434 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: They got in to the tournament and then they were very, 435 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: very dangerous. That's how they got on our radar. Nobody 436 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: gave them anything. They got in. They earned it, they 437 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: had a chance to earn it. We're not getting giving 438 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: anybody a chance to earn it. Blaine, I have no 439 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: problem with the final four if that's what it is. 440 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: I get it, then why don't you say to everybody 441 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: else you have no chance of getting into the final four. 442 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: If you say that, I'm fine with it. But you've 443 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: done everything but say that. And that's where I don't 444 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: think you're being fair when you have these rankings. Imagine 445 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: you're at Cincinnati or you know, throw out another school 446 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: and you watch the ranking show and then you go, oh, wait, 447 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: we dropped. They tune in. They actually think that these 448 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: things are legitimate. There's nothing legitimate about that. They've done 449 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: their best to keep Cincinnati out of it. Cincinnati is 450 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: never going to be playing for a championship in the 451 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: final four, just not. None of these schools are that 452 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: we've been talking about on the outside. They're just not. 453 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then just say, hey, this 454 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: is Power five schools. This for big boys, not you guys. 455 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: That's all. Yeah. As we make the awkward segue into 456 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 1: the number one team in the country, and Nick Saban 457 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: said to joining us on the program, you know, I'll 458 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: talk about that in a moment, coach. We were just 459 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, when's the last time you went 460 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: Christmas shop? I usually once a year. Um, I have 461 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: a lady that I'll meet at the store and I 462 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,400 Speaker 1: might give her a hundred dollar bill and a list 463 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: of things to get from Miss Terry, and she brings 464 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: it back to me all wrapped up, and we're very roll. 465 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's one hundred dollars. It feels 466 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: like it might be a little more than that. Coach, right, 467 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: but I need assistance to shop, I guess is the 468 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: key to the drill? Now? Is it required that the 469 00:25:54,080 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: assistant coaches get you a gift? They usually do, and 470 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: I we usually get them, I guess, as well as 471 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: their wives. I think sometimes wives get overlooked in coaching 472 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: because they have to be so supportive and in college, 473 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: you know, they're involved in recruiting and relationship building, so 474 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: sometimes they get overlooked. So I gotta make sure that 475 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: at Christmas they know that we appreciate what they do. 476 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: How do you know you've had a good recruiting year 477 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: when they when the puppy dogs grow up to become 478 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, real dogs, and you really gotta know. Um 479 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: you think by a valuation, which recruiting is probably a 480 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: bit of an inexact science. I think the valuation of 481 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: players is an inexact science because You can probably measure 482 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: some of the physical characteristics, but you really never know 483 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: for sure you know, what the psychological disposition is to 484 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: develop and compete relative to what's capable of. I think 485 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: that's probably true in anything, not just sports. But it 486 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: makes it a bit of an interact sign. So you 487 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: really don't know how the players that you got were 488 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: to develop. You know where they are right now. They 489 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: look like they're pretty good relatively speaking, but how are 490 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: they going to develop over the next year or two 491 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: or three on what's the maturity level going to be 492 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: to be able to compete? And I think one of 493 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: the most important things in development is, you know, how 494 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: do you accept the critical eye. You know, people who 495 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: have goals and aspirations and really want to accomplish something. 496 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,159 Speaker 1: They're always looking for people to, you know, tell me 497 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: what I need to do to get better. But then 498 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: we have you know, quite a few that they've had 499 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: a lot of success, so they look at it more 500 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: when they get corrected, like it's personally insulting, So it 501 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: makes it harder for them to grow and develop. So 502 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: all these factors sort of come together to determine how 503 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: someone develops and how early they're ready to contribute and 504 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: how quickly they actually developed the skill level to be 505 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: kind of player they're capable of them. And I find 506 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: that really interesting. You're talking about it and I have 507 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 1: kids who are in the early twenties, and you're right, 508 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: how you can say something and then how they accept it. 509 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: And I was curious how recruiting has changed for you 510 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: over the years. What's the biggest difference that you've seen. 511 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: I think that expectation that the player has now is 512 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: a lot greater than it used to be, which I 513 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: think is a little bit of an obstacle to overcome 514 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: because I think when people have expectations like I want 515 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: to start as a freshman or I want to catch 516 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: fifty passes or whatever as a freshman, and then those 517 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: things don't happen readily because they are focused on outcome 518 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: orient and type things and not what they really need 519 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: to do to get the outcome. They get frustrated, and 520 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: when they get frustrated, you know, they don't perform as well, 521 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: they don't develop as well, they don't improve because you know, 522 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: they're negative attitude about things. So well, social media has 523 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: been I mean that that's a big opponent that you 524 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: have to fight as well of what people say to 525 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: these kids and they are kids, and then how they 526 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: react to it well, and I think you're right. It's 527 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: it's the expectation that gets created by social media. And 528 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, look twenty years ago, we didn't have all 529 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: these recruiting ratings and five star, four star, but all 530 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: these things create an expectation. And it's not the player. 531 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 1: It's not the young man's fault that these expectations are 532 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: created externally, but they do have an impact and affect 533 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: some guys and they think they're failing if they don't 534 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: meet these sort of I'm going to call them all 535 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: those false expectations because they're not realistic in a lot 536 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: of ways. So it takes away from this whole process 537 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: of thinking about what I have to do to develop 538 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: and get results and become very outcome oriented and disappointed 539 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: if I don't get the outcome, but people expect. He's 540 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: Nick Saban, Alabama will play Florida SEC title game coming 541 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: up Saturday night. Who's the recruit you missed that you 542 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: still think about? You missed out on? There's more than 543 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: one why? I asked Tom is Soo at Michigan State, 544 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: and he said he missed out on Chris Webber, and 545 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: he said he thinks he thinks about it more than 546 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: he should. But I didn't know if there's one that 547 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: you either see this guy or you think about it 548 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: and you go, how did I miss out on that game? 549 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: You know, no one comes to mind readily, but um 550 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: if I thought about it, I'm sure I come up 551 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: with somebody. M But you know, I think one of 552 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: the hardest things in recruiting is you really develop relationships 553 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: with certain players um as you recruit them. And it's very, 554 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: very disappointing when you have a really close relationship with 555 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: the guy and then the guy goes someplace else and 556 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: not only do you have that relationship, but now you 557 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: got played against him. Yes you speak and um so 558 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: I think that's, you know, one of the harder things. 559 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: You know, Leonard Fronette comes to mind. You know, I 560 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: had a really good relationship with him, you know his 561 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 1: mode make Crossfish at Totha when I went in the 562 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: house and it was the best ever and all that, 563 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: and then you know, you think you got a chance 564 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: to get the then you don't. It's kind of I 565 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: don't know, it's a little disappointing because of the relationships 566 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: not only you developer players, but also with their family. 567 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: And you have to ask for seconds too with the 568 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: A two fe right, don't want to mom. That's one 569 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: thing about Louisiana. You don't go on all visits without it. 570 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: And if you have two in one night, you got 571 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: eat twice. Who does Kyle Trask remind you of? Oh, 572 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: nobody in particular. He's really a pretty heady, heads up, 573 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: very accurate, smart executes their offense, well reads things. It's 574 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: got good players, good system that they play in, and 575 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: he gets the ball of the right guys in the 576 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: right place and the right circumstances and it's very very efficient, 577 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: very effective. And they've got they've got a lot of 578 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: mismatched players which make it really difficult to match up, 579 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: and they do a really good job of putting them in, 580 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, tough spots to get the right people on them. 581 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: We had your quarterback on a couple of weeks ago, 582 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: and he's got a sneaky sense of humor there, coach. 583 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: We really liked him. Yeah, very bright guy and you 584 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: know as and I think he's used his knowledge and 585 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: experience to develop to become the kind of player that 586 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: he is. He said that wide open receivers are the 587 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: toughest to hit. Yeah, you know, I played quarterback back 588 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: in high school in my first year of college. I 589 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: tend to agree with him on that because you know, 590 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: it just runs through your mind right before you throw it. 591 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: I can't mess this up. And that's why you only 592 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: played one year in college. Probably. It's great to talk 593 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,719 Speaker 1: to you. Good luck on Saturday night? When do you 594 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: decide your first play? Do you know what your first 595 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: play is going to be? We usually decide that today. 596 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, we always have a script on offense um 597 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: and you know, the coordinators have, you know, the biggest 598 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: input in that. But on defense, you know, you it's 599 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 1: a little different because you don't know whether what personnel 600 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: they're going to be in and whether you're gonna be 601 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: playing regular nicole. Do you know you just so you 602 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: got to kind of have your call for whatever they do. Well, 603 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: it's great talk to you. Happy holiday is good luck 604 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: against Florida and whatever happens after that. Coach always appreciate 605 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: the time. All right, damn, thank you, thank you buddy. 606 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm a good holiday. Thanks bye bye. That's Nick Saban 607 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: got a big game coming up with Florida on Saturday Night, 608 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: your pal. Yeah, yeah, Hey, he makes time a couple 609 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: of times a year. He makes time to come on, 610 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. Yes, Mick lov Nick Saban loves you. 611 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 1: Just admit it. It's a broke man. I don't know 612 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: if I'd go that far. I don't. I don't know 613 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: how he is towards his friends, his true friends. And 614 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: I don't know if any coach really wants to have 615 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: a friend in the media. Although we and I know 616 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: that he and he said this before. He likes coming 617 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: on because we ask unique questions, or we have fun, 618 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: or he has fun. I don't know, but bromance, I 619 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, Polly, I think if you live down there, 620 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: you might get the lake House invite, because that locally 621 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: means you're in If you visit the lake House, you're 622 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: in a circle. If you don't get that means you're 623 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: outer circle. Now, I think he might like me more 624 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: because I'm not down there, and and I might like 625 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: him a lot more because I'm not down there. Yes, mcclevin, Yeah, 626 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: you break one story in that bromance, so just remember 627 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: that too. Yes, Yes, given my sources with college football 628 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: and I start breaking stories here and all of a sudden, 629 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: he's gone, hey, I saw the name. Boy. You talk 630 00:35:56,239 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: about the name of a product and then you go, hmm, 631 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: if they chose that name, give me the name that 632 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: they didn't choose. I have an NBA star who just 633 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,959 Speaker 1: put out a shoe and I got a real problem 634 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: with the name of that shoe. I have that for 635 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: you coming up next. And if you're watching on Peacock, 636 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: all the backroom guys who came in today, they came 637 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: in given the snowstorm. Here, we got burgers and brats, 638 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: and we'll have those coming up. You can live vicariously 639 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: through us as we have the Tragger girls all fired 640 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: up here. We'll take a break back after this. Thanks 641 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure 642 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: to catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon 643 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and 644 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR, 645 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock app. What we Learn, 646 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: What's in store tomorrow? Funal results, a pull question, there's 647 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: staying sports history. Last call for phone calls. I saw 648 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: and I love Steph Curry. Steph Curry is back and 649 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,280 Speaker 1: can't wait to watch him. He has a new shoe 650 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: out and he's of course partnered with under Armor, and 651 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: the shoe is called the Curry Golden Flow. That's not 652 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: a good name. That's just not a good name for 653 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 1: a shoe. Golden Flow. Um, it's pretty because you know 654 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 1: the color white and then there's a gold there and 655 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: he's Golden State and the Golden Flow. But I want 656 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: to know what name you decided not to use if 657 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 1: you go Golden Flow. Yes, Paul, if you wear them, 658 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,919 Speaker 1: you're you're in the playoffs. You're in. You're in. See 659 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: what I did with that, Todd? I thought it'd be 660 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: a good bridle shower gift. But I don't know. I'm 661 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: just one person. What do I know? That's all you got? Like, 662 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: show I don't That's all That's the best I could do. Okay, 663 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: Golden Flow? This are you sure? This isn't a bit? No? 664 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: I got? I got? This is from under Armour. It 665 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: says from under Armour subject the Curry Golden Flow is 666 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: out now exclamation point And so I didn't know what 667 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: it what it meant like, the Curry Golden Flow is out. 668 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: And yes, mcclen remember when we thought he couldn't do 669 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: any worse. And those dad shoes he put out a 670 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: few years ago, they look like nurses shoes. Though it 671 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: felt like like really really really comfortable shoes to be 672 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: gonna be on your feet for a while. Yeah you 673 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: want those? Yeah? Yeah, Golden Flow. Yes, I think we're 674 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: being There's no way someone would like they had the 675 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: meeting and the Boscoes. You know, Golden Flow. I like 676 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: that name. No one stood up at the this is 677 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: right for being made fun of. Nobody brought their hand 678 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: up like you can do golden but flow. But I 679 00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: do like that Golden Flow. You're in the playoffs. But 680 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: you know what happened though, Todd, somebody leaked this to me. 681 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: When you go to when you go to the website 682 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: of that company, there's a huge Golden Flow graphic and 683 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: then the quote feels better than ever. Oh you asked 684 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: MC you didn't want to see the shoe that under 685 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: Arms putting out for Lamar Jackson. You wear Golden Flows. 686 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: You're up three or four times a night. I guarantee you. 687 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: It's too easy. It's like t ball. Do you think 688 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: under Armours said, hey, let people have fun with this. 689 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: Let him talk about this. Do you think that's part 690 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: of the marketing plan. If it is, then great, you 691 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: know you got me and be more unhappy to promote. Yes, Todd, 692 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: So when they're sold out, they're drained basically at that 693 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: point store okay, serviceable. Yeah, you're rallying, man, You're rally 694 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: final results with the pole question, Nick Levin, would you 695 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: how to be at NFL GM or in the Monday 696 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: Night football broadcast booth at GM UH? This day in 697 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 1: sports history, PAULI One, good one. You're bringing up passing 698 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: stats for rookies. Uh. This second year guy Dan Marino 699 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four set the NFL record for touchdowns forty 700 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: eight completions three sixty two and yards five eighty four. 701 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: Nineteen eighty four for Dan Marina. Yeah, nineteen eighty four, 702 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: he threw for five grand. If you pro rate that, 703 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: that's that's six and a half, right. I don't know. 704 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm maybe Pro Football Focus has has done that, but 705 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: if you pro rated, it's got to be six at 706 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: least six thousand yards. I would think at least at 707 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: least something come coming close to that. Kyle in California, Hey, Kyle, 708 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Under armored golden flow that that's 709 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 1: pissed poor. I don't like it at all, but I'm 710 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: fired up over the hard and thing. It makes okay 711 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: if I found out that you were how many times 712 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: has he burnt out in the playoffs and then we 713 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: find out he's taken three day trips at clubs like 714 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: it comes back like this just comes back to the 715 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: Lebron thing for me, the discipline every day put it. 716 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, everybody talks about how much effort he puts 717 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: into his body. Off day's like no day's off. And 718 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: everybody you know talks about medical technology being better these days, 719 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,280 Speaker 1: and like go into the finals every year and playoff 720 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: pushes and all that stuff is hard, right, Lebron's made 721 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: it look easy better. It's hard day. It couldn't do 722 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,479 Speaker 1: eight straight. The guy had to take two years off, 723 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: and everybody says, oh, medical technology better these days. You 724 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: don't think they didn't know. Maybe it wasn't great to 725 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: play thirty six holes of golf and be up party 726 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 1: and until three in the morning. Like Lebron doesn't do 727 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: any of that stuff. He never has it always It 728 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: just comes back to that, all right, Well, thank you, Kyle, 729 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: Always good to hear from you. I mean, you're right. Now, 730 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: if Jordan did what Jordan did back then, he did 731 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 1: it now with social media and gambling and playing thirty 732 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: six holes of golf, then maybe maybe the media would 733 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: be critical. Uh, I mean they find a way to 734 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 1: be critical of Lebron James. Oh, let's see. Well, how 735 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: about we take a spin around the the in field here. 736 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: What you learned on the program, Todd will start with you. 737 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: It's not fair to expect one guy, Sam Houston to 738 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: beat an entire Texas team. At last, he lost it 739 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,359 Speaker 1: alongr in seventy nine sixty three. That's what you learn 740 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: my corny joke. I like that joke a lot. I 741 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: had to repurpose it as I've been known to do it. 742 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 1: But those fantastics now I feel bad about it. McLam 743 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: coming in tomorrow, and we have meat Friday tomorrow, beef 744 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: tenderloin tomorrow. McLevin Justin Tucker can shred. 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