1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Boys. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison and New. 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 4: He scrugs, all right, everybody here, we are back one 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 4: more time for you. 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 5: We're here the Star if Frisco. It is the Players. 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 4: Lads the podcast studio. 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 5: Barry Church for Cowboys safety, heck Ma Harrison is new. 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 5: He scrugs. Okay, Cowboys with. 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 4: Real football practice today, sir, practice, no more underwear Olympics, 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 4: no more just helmets or just helmets and short of pans. 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 4: We're gonna put on paths. We're gonna pop, We're gonna hit. 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: And this to me is where we start to find 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 4: out the most important questions, at least for me. How 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 4: are they going to look on the offensive and defensive minds? 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 4: This is where the game is. One gentleman, you've got 20 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: to be good there. So Church, you take us through 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 4: what is a first padded practice, Like after you've done 22 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 4: all the oldtas and the mini can't to play play 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: and even the first play play Now we got the 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: real deal. 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 6: Now, the first pad of practice, it's always super hype, 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 6: always super hype. Everybody's you know, been itching to get 27 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 6: the pads on. You see guys that as can't progresses. 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 6: You know, people get into that locker room later and 29 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 6: later before practice starts. But for that first pad of practice, 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 6: people are there thirty minutes earlier. Man, go make sure 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 6: my straps are good. They going to Big Mike's equipment 32 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 6: room over there, making sure their gloves fit, shoes are 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 6: fitting right. 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 5: Everything. 35 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 6: Everybody got their swag together, and everybody's hyped up to 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 6: go out there and play. And then when you get 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 6: out there, you know, of course you got your individual 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 6: you got all your walkthroughs and stuff. But when the 39 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 6: real paths start to get popping them and you can 40 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 6: hear it, especially from that offensive line, deepensive line, when 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 6: they're over there doring, you know, their trench work all years, 42 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 6: pop pop, and then usually what happens. I mean this 43 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 6: has been I've been on two teams in my you know, 44 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 6: my nine years in the NFL, and usually that first 45 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 6: day of practice there's always gonna be some type of 46 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 6: scrap because somebody went too hard on somebody. 47 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 5: Else and they're like, no, we can't do that. 48 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 6: And it's usually the offensive deeps of the lineman because 49 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 6: they're hit twenty four seven, they're going out in twenty 50 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 6: four seven. 51 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 5: Somebody's hand with in the face mask or something like 52 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 5: that happens. 53 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 6: But the first day of padded practice it's always one 54 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 6: of the funnest because you got the most energy. So 55 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 6: every play just like, yeah, let's get it, let's get 56 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 6: it now. As camp goes on, people are like, man, 57 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 6: I'm tired of hitting these people. I'm tired of let's 58 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 6: get some exactly. Let's get to the regular season. But 59 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 6: that first padded practice, man, it's it's always legit. And 60 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 6: I always remember my was it when I first really 61 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 6: met for Lando mcclan I think it was twenty fourteen. 62 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 5: He when he came over, Sean. 63 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 6: Lee had went down, and you know, everybody's like, oh, man, 64 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 6: we're gonna get the linebacker position. And then that first 65 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 6: padded practice, you know, everybody's kind of thudding up a 66 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 6: little bit, and I don't know what got into my man, 67 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 6: but young undrafted wide receiver by the name of Tim 68 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 6: I forget his last name. He was number sixteen for 69 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 6: the Cowboys what across the middle and Rolando it might 70 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 6: have been the hardest hit I've ever seen in my life. 71 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 6: Took the man's helmet off. He had his little jersey up, 72 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 6: so the straps on the shoulder pads was going this 73 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 6: way and that way, and I'm like, oh, we got 74 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 6: a thumper in the middle. Right. 75 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 5: It turned out that he was a pretty good player 76 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 5: out there. 77 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 6: But I'm telling you, man, that first padded practice, I mean, 78 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 6: it's the most energy. 79 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 5: You'll see all the cap I love to hear that, man. 80 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,679 Speaker 6: I mean those stories about those first padded practices, you 81 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 6: know that these guys are waiting to get into it 82 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 6: all OTAs, especially for the offensive lineman defensive linemen. They're 83 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 6: the ones that really can't get any work at all 84 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 6: because everything is simulated. And look, how can you it's 85 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 6: not simulated where you're hitting, So how do you get 86 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 6: that with real work? 87 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 7: And yeah, we can run seven on seven off you 88 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 7: want to. You can bump all that if you get 89 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 7: all the yak you want to, But it really comes 90 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 7: down to really those iceol plays, and that's like the linebackers, 91 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 7: the defensive lineman, all those people, they are ready to 92 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 7: really I mean, you can't even get ready for the 93 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 7: season until you get that first little, you know, touch 94 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 7: of contact, you know, And it's just so many guys 95 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 7: on this team right now knew it that you know. Man, 96 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 7: it's gonna come down to how rough and rugged they 97 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 7: can be, because after all these last couple of seasons, 98 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 7: that's been the biggest thing about the Cowboys that people 99 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 7: been the biggest question mark toughness. Where's the toughness of 100 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 7: this team? And I think the NFL is basically legislated 101 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 7: a lot of it out. I think it's something like 102 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 7: sixteen padded practices or. 103 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 5: Something like that. Where it used to be back for 104 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 5: it was gladiated school, and you don't have that anymore. 105 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 7: So now these padded practices, the importance of them has 106 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 7: like doubled with how important it is to put those 107 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 7: pads on to really see the identity of a lot 108 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 7: of these guys. 109 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 4: Maximizing and look, let's just be honest, Okay, the Cowboys 110 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 4: have done a fantastic job of winning a lot of 111 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 4: regular seats of games. When we go back and we 112 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: start to look at the losses that they've had, it's 113 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 4: been against good teams, and it's been against teams where 114 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 4: we talk about popping pads in the middle of You 115 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 4: look at the Buffalo game last year, Francisco game, you 116 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: look at the Green Bay game, and you say, okay, 117 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: when you talk about the toughness, this is where you 118 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 4: get tough. 119 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 5: This is where you must be tough. One player. 120 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: And by the way, they're going to have their first 121 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 4: practice here in about fifteen minutes out knocks on California. 122 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 4: I want to see what center brock Hoffman has. Okay, Okay, 123 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: brock Hoffman is a guy who played so last year. Yes, 124 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: they drafted Cooper b b out of Kansas State. But 125 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 4: if I'm brock Hoffman, I'm up in here. You got 126 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: to take this from me. That's how I would look 127 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: at He's running with the first team right now, so 128 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 4: as Pats pop, let's see what he can do. We 129 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 4: all need to see exactly what Tyler Guidon the left 130 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 4: haack of what can he do? We all all waiting 131 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: on and see what they're gonna get out of Mozzie Smith, 132 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 4: last year's first. 133 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 5: Say he's ready. Look this is okay, all. 134 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: Of this has been play play Okay, I'll do just 135 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: rubbing up on each other, you know, right right, you know, 136 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: swim past the guy. You know now he's hitting, okay, 137 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: And for me, that's what I want to see. I 138 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 4: want to see what these guys are going to do, 139 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 4: because if this team is going to do anything, they 140 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: must be good in the trenches on both sides of 141 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: the well. 142 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 7: You bring up a great point on brock Hoffman, and 143 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 7: there have to be some confidence in him to be 144 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 7: able to let Tyler be Idish walk. Let's just be honest, 145 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 7: there I mean, and there always has been nothing you 146 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 7: don't think so I think it was ten million dollars. 147 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 7: A lot of those decisions make themselves right. 148 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 4: It is nothing against Tyler be Okay, good football player, 149 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: ten million dollars football player? 150 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 5: Hey man, good luck you dq you know, flights a year? 151 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: Right? 152 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 5: But he did you think? 153 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 8: No? 154 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 7: I really look, here's the thing I think, for for 155 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 7: a very long time here in Dallas, they've done everything 156 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 7: to keep the nucleus of a good offensive line and 157 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 7: they and they paid guys that have been players. Again, 158 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 7: can you point to Tyler biadis ten million dollars worth 159 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 7: not so much? And so brock Kaufman is really pushed 160 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 7: in this position where like you said, man, it's his 161 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 7: to lose. But in as you know, as the peking 162 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 7: ught goes and how your draft arter goes, and how 163 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 7: you're being paid and how they're forecasting you into the future, 164 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 7: BB is someone that they are saying, look, you could 165 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 7: be the future here at this position. Second season here 166 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 7: for brock Kaufman, and he has come in and spelled 167 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 7: and with injuries and all of that, and. 168 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: It's played really well, played really well. 169 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 7: But I think it's going to come down to who 170 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 7: is the guy in the middle, because you have to 171 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 7: be the brain trust of that offensive line. You have 172 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 7: to call protections. We know it's not just hiking the ball, 173 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 7: so so much of that is going to be brock 174 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 7: Kaufman has a leg up on the other side of 175 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 7: BB because he's been in the system already for a year. 176 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: So, like you said, it's his to lose, So go 177 00:07:59,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 5: on flip on this one. 178 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 4: I think about Terren Steele. Here's your starting right tackle. 179 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: This guy wasn't drafted. So this team is showing you 180 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: they're not afraid to give a guy an opportunity, especially 181 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 4: on the offensive line that's undrafted. So it's not a 182 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 4: stretch to say maybe he could pull this thing off, 183 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: especially knowing Bebe's. 184 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 5: Got to learn. 185 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 4: I mean, you were undrafted right here, and so this 186 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 4: is an organization that has no problem saying, if you 187 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 4: can get it. 188 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 6: Done, we'll play. Oh yeah, without a doubt. I mean 189 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 6: the Cowboys they do great when it comes to undrafted guys. 190 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 6: You're talking about the Miles Austin's of the world, to 191 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 6: Tony Romols myself. I mean, there's Beasley, all those type 192 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 6: of guys. They give opportunities to the Only thing what 193 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 6: Hoffman is he's gonna have to go out there each 194 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 6: and every practice and prove that he belongs with that 195 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 6: first team. 196 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 5: He's gonna have to show these coaches each and every day. 197 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 6: Man, you know what that Hoffman he can pick up 198 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 6: the blizz man, he can understand what protections are, he 199 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 6: can help the quarterback. 200 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 5: He's gonna have to do that each and every practice. 201 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 5: When it comes to BB, they're gonna bring him along slow. 202 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 6: He was a second round draft pick, so he's gonna 203 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 6: have to have every opportunity to prove that he can't play. 204 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 6: Because the scot team they don't want to feel like 205 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 6: they're wrong, you know, so they're going to give him 206 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 6: every opportunity out there to get that starting position. 207 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 5: But Hoffman, he's going to have to make sure he 208 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 5: plays his. 209 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 6: Cards right and makes the right decisions almost each and 210 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 6: every practice. Not saying he has to be perfect, but 211 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 6: he's gonna have a lot less opportunities to mess up 212 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 6: than a Zach Bibie with just because of the draft 213 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 6: status and being undrafted versus the second rounder. 214 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 5: Yeah. 215 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 7: Well, and then on the other side, for Hoffman, he 216 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 7: has he has two really good players next to him. 217 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Smith and Martin. It really kind of makes 218 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 5: the job a little bit easier. 219 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 7: But I think for these coaches and his coaching staff, 220 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 7: they're looking for who is more physical in the middle, 221 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 7: who is going to be the guy because the running 222 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 7: game is really what has been punished because you've been 223 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 7: so weak in the middle of not having that guy 224 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 7: that is that role breaker of offensive lineman, and so 225 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 7: Cooper BB has a lot to make up to that regard. 226 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 7: I mean, I think when they came out and they 227 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 7: evaluated that guy, they evaluated him based off of his run, 228 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 7: his ability to run block, his ability to get up 229 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 7: to the second level for the center, that's the biggest thing. 230 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 7: Can you get to the second level and it is tough. 231 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 7: It is tough, but also helping on double teams and 232 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 7: things like that. So I think I got my eyes 233 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 7: on Cooper BB because I want to see how physical 234 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 7: and can he translate what he did in college to 235 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 7: the pros and been as physical as he was. 236 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 4: I was at Kansas State a couple of times this 237 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 4: year and and talk to some of the coaches. They 238 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 4: had nothing but good things to say about the young man. 239 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 4: So I think if you're a Cowboy fan, you should 240 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 4: feel good about Cooper BB. But I come back into this, 241 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: heck man, We've seen this so many times. Seventeen game season, man, 242 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 4: guys are dropping. I mean, Zach Martin is time last year. 243 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: We've seen several players. So whether Cooper BB's your starting 244 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 4: center or Brock Coffin, the way the NFL is played today, 245 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 4: you're going to need some people and you're going to 246 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 4: you just can't have five. You need about eight to 247 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 4: nine of these guys because you're gonna groll through them. 248 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: So that's that's my other portion of you know, can 249 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 4: Iron shopper and Iron? Can it get better? If it's 250 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 4: Hoffin's first, maybe B becomes a little bit later that's 251 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: okay too, but they are going to have to develop 252 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: some depth here. And let me throw this out here, 253 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 4: and we're going way way way. I haven't seen it, 254 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: but just the contingencies we're talking about Tyler guiding at 255 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 4: left hackle, let's just say it doesn't go the way 256 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 4: they want to. He may need a little bit more time. 257 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 4: If they had to put Tyler Smith out there at 258 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: left tackle, BB's play guard. You could potentially put BB 259 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 4: at left guard and put Hoffman at center. I mean, 260 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 4: they're going to have to experience. That's what they're gonna 261 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 4: do anyway. So every team you're going to have to 262 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 4: throw out some experience about who's where or maybe instead 263 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 4: of putting Coop BB left tick, maybe it's a boy 264 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 4: tuma yoga right there. 265 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 5: I mean, who's a better interior guy next? 266 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: So there's there's combinations, and that's that's one thing I 267 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 4: do miss about not being a camper, and as it's 268 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 4: kind of what. 269 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 5: Are they doing? 270 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: Man? 271 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: And I remember when just in like I'm nowhere near 272 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: and comparing myself to these offensive linemen at the pro level, 273 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: But I just remember the high school level when you 274 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: just would mixing guys and just the communication and understanding 275 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 4: how who's going to do what and where you go. 276 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 4: It's a challenge and that's where I think the offensive 277 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: line play because we always like to look at. 278 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 5: The receivers and the running back but skill. 279 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: Right, But that that challenge of having the mixing different 280 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 4: guys and how you go about the learning aspect and working. 281 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 4: You know, hey, if you you know, if you got 282 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: Aaron Donald here, it's a whole little a whole little 283 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 4: different about how we go run a play. So it's 284 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 4: more said, a whole little different, you know. So as 285 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: you're mixing guys in figured out who can handle who, 286 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 4: that is a challenge, man. 287 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 5: So I'm looking forward to that. 288 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 7: Let me just let me just say this. I think 289 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 7: that Tyler Geydon right now has a lot of pressure 290 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 7: on it, all right, because of his drafts where he 291 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 7: was drafted, but also each and every day he's going 292 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 7: up against Michael Parsons and when you say iron shoppings, iron, 293 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 7: there you have it. And if he can handle this 294 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 7: matchup on an everyday basis, I think what I'm looking 295 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 7: at is the first four games of the seasons, the 296 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 7: past rushers that he has to face. 297 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 5: I mean, he comes right out to shoot with Miles 298 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 5: Garrett five. The last thing you. 299 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 7: Wanted a rookie that be having seen guys fight over me, 300 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 7: you know, waving other guys off to get on that side. 301 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 8: You know. 302 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 7: I just feel as though, as a contingency, it's good 303 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 7: to have a guy like Tyler Smith that you know, 304 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 7: has the experience, has the footwork, and has the toughness. 305 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 7: But I think what he's shown you is that man, 306 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 7: he's a guard. He's a left guard. I've been fighting 307 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 7: for him to go play left tackle. But I think 308 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 7: that the front office and everybody else has seen like 309 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 7: this guy has really hell to deal with in the 310 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 7: middle of this offensive line. And if we can bring 311 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 7: in a guy like Chuman Doga or bring a tight 312 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 7: end and set him out there on that side, we 313 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 7: will be better served than to move Tyler Smith out. 314 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 4: There's first five games in year at Cleveland, home against 315 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 4: New Orleans, home against Baltimore, a Thursday night game at 316 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 4: the Giants, and then game number five at Pittsburgh. 317 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 5: You talked about past rushers nothing. What I said, Oh 318 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 5: my goodness, he's padded. 319 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: Practices matter because you've got to start to figure out 320 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: what you've got and you talk about being tough, you 321 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 4: better be tough here. 322 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 7: I heard an interview with Tyler Whiscus with Guyton, and 323 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 7: he said, I didn't take a vacation this summer. 324 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 5: I didn't go. 325 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 7: I'm like, that's a smart man. He know what he 326 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 7: has on his plate, sense of going to cans in 327 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 7: France and all of that. You better be right here, buddy, 328 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 7: lock in and. 329 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: Back on what you said about Guy One of the 330 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 4: one of the smartest things he could do is really 331 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 4: just go Tyler asking Tyler Smith, because remember when he 332 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 4: was drafted, a lot of people are like, wait a minute, 333 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: it's guy. Nobody held more than in college football than 334 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 4: him from Tulsa. I mean, there were so many people 335 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 4: were just down and that young man, and he's been 336 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: nothing but fantastic. 337 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 5: That's true. 338 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 4: So I would attach myself to him in terms of, Okay, 339 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 4: we're playing next to each other. 340 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 6: What do we do? 341 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 5: How do I get better? 342 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 4: You guys played college football, Heck, you played k State, 343 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 4: North Texas, Barry you played Toledo, played in the NFL. 344 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 4: But I just think along the way in any profession, 345 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 4: find out who's good. 346 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 5: You got what you do? How do I do what 347 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 5: you're able to last this long. 348 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 6: I mean, you gotta make sure you get to a 349 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 6: veteran and make sure that pick his brain a little bit. 350 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 6: I mean that's what I always did when I first 351 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 6: got here with Gerald Sensibl was my you know, veteran, 352 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 6: the guy that kind of taught me how to do 353 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 6: this and that and recoverage all that good stuff. So 354 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 6: you gotta make sure you hit to get a veteran 355 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 6: in there. But I mean, what helped Tyler Smith so 356 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 6: much was he had, you know, a Hall of Famer 357 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 6: next to him. You know, hopefully that rubbed the lot 358 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 6: off on him and so now he can help the 359 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 6: next generation. 360 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 5: But we shall see. That's a that's a big shooter, 361 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 5: feel no, it is. 362 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 7: And Tyler Smith is definitely the guy. He's man, and 363 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 7: I'm so impressed by him every time I see him 364 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 7: in an interview, just to wa how articulate he is 365 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 7: as a young man. But also that's smartness and just 366 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 7: kind of taking that guy under his wing and saying, look, man, 367 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 7: this is this is how the NFL works, this is 368 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 7: how play works, this is how you break down film 369 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 7: with guys. Because he's gonna have to become a student 370 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 7: of the game. When you're six seven, six eight and 371 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 7: you're just used to being able to stick your arm 372 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 7: out there and keep a guy distance, then okay, that 373 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 7: works all right. That works against an Iowa State. That's 374 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 7: not gonna work against Miles Garrett. That's not gonna work 375 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 7: against t. 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Yeah, not Zeke, fresh from Ohio 469 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: State and Zeke but you know, little tread on a tire, 470 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 4: fresh from playing for Bill Belichick in New England. 471 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: And so now he's back. Yeah, we should not. It's 472 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 5: like Klay. 473 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 4: Thompson coming to the Mavericks. Don't expect to see splash 474 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 4: brother Clay. 475 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 5: No, that's not who you get. 476 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 4: This is not Zeke. You know, feeds it. This is 477 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 4: you know we you know, Zeke's like that older dog 478 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 4: you have. Now we're give him the weight management food. 479 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 5: You just go we've held. No, we feed a little differently. 480 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 5: We watch it. This weight, we take it care of it. 481 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: We can't get anybody dog a little bit, you know. 482 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: So that look, if he's not gonna kill tote the 483 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 4: ball twenty times game, he's not gonna run for fifteen 484 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 4: hundred yard. We're not looking for that from Ezekiel, I 485 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 4: think that would be unfair. Can he give you fifteen 486 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: fifteen touches a game and pick up the blitz and 487 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 4: third and one, third and two converted? 488 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 5: That's what you need. 489 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 4: It's like now when I look at Klay Thompson for 490 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 4: the Mavericks. Hey man, can this guy go give you 491 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 4: fourteen to eighteen points a game? 492 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 5: That can help you here? Yeah? 493 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 4: Okay, because you'll you got Luca and Kyrie to do that. 494 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 4: You got Dak, you got seen, you got people over here. 495 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 4: Hey man, I just need to get your fifteen toes. 496 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 4: Pick me up a third and two goal line score 497 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 4: because goal line was brown last year. If he can 498 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: do that, in my opinion, that's what I'm looking for 499 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 4: from Zeke. What you're looking for? 500 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 5: He well, Clay also plays defense, so I don't want 501 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 5: to throw that in there as well. Not as good 502 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 5: as you used to, but he still does way aitherway 503 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 5: you need it. You need it on that team. 504 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 7: Look warms my heart to see Ezekiel Elliott back in 505 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 7: the Cowboys uniform. Now, we already had this discussion, Danny McCrae. 506 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 7: We already have dinner on it, so there's no need 507 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 7: to revisit this because the expectation of what he can 508 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 7: do in his running back room, I think is going 509 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 7: to be a lot better than what you saw last 510 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 7: year with Tony Polller. I think Tony Poler he struggled 511 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 7: throughout the season and that was the one deficiency in 512 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 7: the offensive just synergy was his ability just to carry 513 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 7: the running game. And it didn't matter if it was 514 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 7: a running back by committee, ric O'Dowd or whoever it was, 515 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 7: you just didn't have that tough inside runner. And you 516 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 7: just alluded to the fact that there was in that 517 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 7: short yardage game when we had those thirds and ones 518 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 7: and we had those goal line experiences in Miami where 519 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 7: we could not get into the goal. We just couldn't 520 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 7: get across the goal line. We have that now, Now, 521 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 7: how does that mix currently. I'm not looking for Zeke 522 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 7: to be twenty sixteen Cie, but I am looking for 523 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 7: Zeke to be that guy that can pick up quality 524 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 7: yards and can also batter a defense. Ric o'dadell is 525 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 7: gonna have to pick up the slack. You're gonna have 526 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 7: to have a third guy in here as well. Yes, 527 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 7: you're gonna have to add a third guy in here. 528 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 7: Is what, Yes, you're gonna have to have a third 529 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 7: guy in here as well, and it's gonna have to 530 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 7: be one of those guys that can up the tempo. 531 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 7: We asked last year it was all about, well man, Dak, 532 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 7: you know, the running game ain't going took it and 533 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 7: run with it, Dak? 534 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 5: And what what did that show? 535 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 7: Dak was like, Nope, nope, I'm an audible right out 536 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 7: of that, and I'm gonna turn around and I'm gonna 537 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 7: handleball to Tony Pollard. 538 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 5: The running game wasn't there for us. 539 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 7: And I mean, one way or another, we are going 540 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 7: to have to brother running back by committee. We need 541 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 7: at least fourteen to fifteen hundred yard of that room. 542 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 7: And I don't see it. 543 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 6: I don't see it at all. I don't see fifteen 544 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 6: hundred yards out of that group. We're talking about a 545 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 6: Royce Freeman, We're talking about Zeke my boy, Yeah, Rico Daddle, 546 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 6: then forty Due. We were talking about that group of 547 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 6: people right there, gonna give you fifteen hundred yards out 548 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 6: that This to me reminds me a lot. And we 549 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 6: talked about this, I think last week of the week 550 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 6: before when we came in with that wide receiver corps 551 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 6: with herds and the crew. 552 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 5: Now we're doing with the wide receivers. Were doing it 553 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 5: in the running back room. That's exactly what's going on 554 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 5: right now. 555 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 6: You telling me that group of people, that group of 556 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 6: running backs, and looks he was a phenomenal running back 557 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 6: when he first came. And like you said that, the 558 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 6: tread is getting a little thin on that side. You 559 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 6: think he's gonna he's gonna be able to carry the load. 560 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 6: We've yet to see what Rico can do carrying the load. 561 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 6: He was spelling Tony Poler last year. 562 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 5: We don't know what Deuce is. Royce Freeman to me, 563 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 5: this is I don't know, man, I don't, I don't, 564 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't see teen. 565 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 7: Hundred yards in production yards. That's receiving as well. No, no, no, no, 566 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 7: I'm Russian saying. I'm saying just I said Russian. So 567 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 7: I'm gonna stay on that. All right. We got Ony 568 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 7: eleven from Tony Pollard last season. I'm saying you needed 569 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 7: more than that even from him. All right, you have 570 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 7: to have more contributions, I think, and this is just 571 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 7: right off the top. I think Rico Dada was something 572 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 7: like two hundred and some yards and that's not that's 573 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 7: that's not that's not gonna cut it. It's not gonna 574 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 7: get it done. You have to be better to that 575 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 7: regard this. 576 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 6: This smells a lot like Dak passing it thirty five 577 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 6: or forty five times, and. 578 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 5: That's not gonna work. That's not gonna work. That's not 579 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 5: what you need. So say this, man, say this number one. 580 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 5: People will get cut. We do know this absolutely. 581 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 4: So that's where Will McLay and company can go do 582 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 4: their jobs. 583 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 5: And they're very well. They do it very well. 584 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: There's there's some teams out there who are going to 585 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 4: have a surplus running back, so there will be a 586 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 4: good player that you can go get. 587 00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 5: Number two. 588 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 4: I said this before in the spring, and you two 589 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 4: just gonna sit here act like I didn't say. 590 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 5: So I say it again and I'm hearing it already. 591 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 5: People that can't link man, that's right. Look, no, no, non, 592 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy likes Hound of Linky. Somebody get this man 593 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 5: off the. 594 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 4: Airn liftkey just telling you man, okay, okay, honey, link 595 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 4: youre too el boogie man, Okay, sleep on him if 596 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 4: you want us, sleep on. 597 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 5: Bookie. It won't be no fumble. There won't be no 598 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 5: fumbling the one this time. 599 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 4: Okay, Tucky tucking he got he's gonna You're gonna stop 600 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 4: dropping rolling to the end zone. 601 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just telling you right now. I'm here for it. 602 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 4: Okay, this is what that's right, the running back group 603 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 4: right by l Boogie listen, Hey you you checked better. 604 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 5: Look out? 605 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 4: Ah hey, they playing each other to this year San 606 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 4: Francisco against the Cowboy lift. 607 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 7: Okay, he had nineteen yards last year, is nowhere but 608 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 7: up for him nineteen yards? 609 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, so see see now if we can talk 610 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: about Mazie coming back and doing something, we can see 611 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 4: put some hopes and dreams on Mazie. 612 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 7: Man can't get on. You won't so you won't let 613 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 7: me sell my hope. I'm not gonna let you sell 614 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 7: your I got premium hind my big MIC's behind this one. Okay, Yeah, 615 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 7: trying to tell you, Okay on a lip key, look out, 616 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 7: look out. 617 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 6: If it was like Coon, like when when John come 618 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 6: back with I can see put coon on the man 619 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 6: you did who and I'm gonna stop. I gotta stop 620 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 6: calling this man l but don't do it, Lifty nowhere're 621 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 6: the same people. 622 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 7: And if I'm going to have a player in that 623 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 7: spot for Liftkey, I'm gonna and a half. That's that's 624 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 7: ezekiel Elliott spot. That's that's where I need Zeke. 625 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: Maybe they could do that together, run DMC together, forever, 626 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 4: forever together hunt of Limkey and Zeke. 627 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 7: That's your answer to that. You shot me down on 628 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 7: the fifteenth. I said, fifteen hundred yards between three guys, 629 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 7: and I got like I got four eyes over here. 630 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 5: A link into that too. Okay, my bad, you're gonna 631 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 5: get you something to a boogie. I'm just telling you 632 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 5: nineteen last year, was that right about tober? What better? 633 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 8: Was that? 634 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 5: Right about? Still? Be better than your two? He took 635 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 5: a jump? Okay, took a jump, didn't I tell you did? 636 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 4: Just gonna get that same contract you did say that 637 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: Limpy's gonna he's going to He's gonna be a factor here, man. 638 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 5: I just tell you right now, set in the spring. 639 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: I know I'm out there on this island by myself, 640 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 4: but that's what you have to do. Sometimes you gotta 641 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: go ahead and decide I'm gonna be out here like 642 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 4: Prince Prince was out here out here by himself, wearing 643 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 4: them crazy clothes and g strings and all that. 644 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 5: Okay, look at him, look at it, the legend legend. 645 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 4: I'm just telling you right now, I'm gonna put some 646 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 4: faith in this man. Put some faith right here, Hunde Limkey, 647 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 4: jump on the train if you want to. 648 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 5: You can sit up here criticizing. That's okay. You got 649 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 5: a lot of seats on that train, That's okay. 650 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 4: I'm all right, man, all right. Jesus was by himself 651 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 4: for a minutntil he found twelve. Right now, I'm gonna 652 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 4: go get myself twelve. I'm gona get twelve l fuggy disciples. 653 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 4: You're recruiting to day outside for the Book of Mike McCarthy. 654 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 5: We're gonna leave that. Look. Look, I see where you're 655 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 5: going with that, all right, I see where he's going 656 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 5: with that. 657 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 7: But I really, I really think that's the reason why 658 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 7: you bring back in Ezekiel Elliott, because you understand I 659 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 7: have faith in this guy. I've seen him do it before. 660 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 7: He did it in New England. Okay, yes, well he 661 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 7: did it in New England and I just didn't look 662 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 7: for me, Barry that production that he had in New England. Boy, 663 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 7: we sure needed that production. Last year. 664 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 5: We gave that, we gave it away. And if he 665 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 5: can mimic, if he could just mimic that. But what 666 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 5: did he what did he do in New England? I 667 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 5: was this what I'm saying, the real it was? What 668 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 5: is what he could have done here? That I look 669 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 5: at him the goal line? How many times we talked 670 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 5: about that for the five yard line? They couldn't get 671 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 5: something done. 672 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: That's where you're looking at him back and show you 673 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 4: take that with Zeke his ability and the improvement of Elboogie, I. 674 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 5: Can't believe you lost by two and you know what 675 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 5: this is. 676 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 7: I'm gonna go back to something that that I know 677 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 7: knew is always going to talk about the win percentage 678 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 7: in the NFL. It's always, you know, two points or less. 679 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 7: All right, that's it, all right. You lose a game 680 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 7: by two points to the Dolphins. You have a game 681 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 7: against the Bills where they're just running the ball. I 682 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 7: mean it down your throat. Playoff game talked about that. 683 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 7: You have a team that's just runaway freight train and 684 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 7: you can't stop the bleeding because you don't have a 685 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 7: running game to speak of. We have got to figure 686 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 7: this out. I mean it's gonna that's one of those things. 687 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 7: And I knew you guys were already on this train 688 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 7: of the running running. Back room don't look too good, 689 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 7: and I don't feel as confident in it as always 690 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 7: have with having those you know, cornerstones in the running 691 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 7: games sitting in that room. 692 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 4: So that's why you need but I give it. 693 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 5: I was hoping somebody to say something else. 694 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 7: Here. 695 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 6: Now. 696 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 4: This is just like when you know, like Bobby Brown 697 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 4: did mister telephone man, that's him. 698 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 5: Mister telephan up the middle. Oh, somebody help. We got 699 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 5: to take a break. 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You guys got 748 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 5: news for us, all right? 749 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 4: Contract update or or Patrick Walker Dallas Cowboys dot Com 750 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 4: see ceedee. Lamb and his representatives have replied with the 751 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 4: rebuttal offer to the Cowboys on Sunday, courting Steve Jones. 752 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 5: So there you go. There it is get the man signed. 753 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 5: So they're working. 754 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 4: They're trying to get the talk to Dak Prescott too, 755 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 4: so they're they're exchanging. 756 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 5: They're talking good. 757 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 4: And as a former player, we've seen a lot of 758 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 4: deals get done in training camp for. 759 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 5: One hundred percent. You see it all the time. 760 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 6: The guys that you wouldn't even think we're about to 761 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 6: get extensions are talking about getting extensions or deals, whatever 762 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 6: the case may be. 763 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 5: You'll just hear it pop up one day. Oh man, 764 00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 5: you got paid. 765 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's because when you look at it, you know, 766 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 6: in the locker room, guys don't really you know. 767 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 5: Count each other's pocket They're not really you know what 768 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 5: you're getting. Are you talking that? 769 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 6: You're talking that that's kind of a sacred bond that 770 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 6: you don't count anybody else's pockets in there. 771 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 5: So the players hear about it, you know, just like 772 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 5: when the media hears about it. 773 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 6: So you see it all the time and can't when 774 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 6: it comes to getting guys getting paid in extensions. I 775 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 6: mean Orlando Scandred, you know when I was here with him. 776 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like he signed a new deal 777 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 6: every year. You know, he was getting read up on something. 778 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 6: So you know, it happens all the time. And hopefully 779 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 6: they can get this thing done with CD, because you know, 780 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 6: without him, I mean, you're looking at what you know, 781 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 6: Hunter lim Key, you know fergusoning those guys. 782 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 5: I mean, that's gonna be the offense. That's gonna be 783 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 5: the offense. So we'll see. I can't believe it's gonna 784 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 5: be a good year. Non believers out here, Yes, a 785 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 5: lot of non believers out here. You don't want to book. 786 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 5: You don't want to read the book of Lympy. That's okay, 787 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 5: love for the water. 788 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 7: For CD, he's young and man, he's got a lot 789 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 7: more contracts to sign, and so this is this is 790 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 7: one of those opportunities, rare opportunities that guys get to 791 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 7: go to the bank and actually open the vault and 792 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 7: get paid. And he's put the he's put the work in, 793 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 7: and it's just it's weird when from the outside looking in, 794 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 7: all those people ask like, what are the cowboys doing? 795 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 5: What are they doing? 796 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 7: I mean, because this is what you want from your 797 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 7: homegrown players. You want to draft the guy, see him 798 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 7: develop into to that, and you want to pay him accordingly. 799 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 5: The pickle that the Cowboys in. 800 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 7: That they draft a lot of good players that they 801 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,439 Speaker 7: have to put pay at the top of the market. 802 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 5: You don't have any B level guys. 803 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 7: All of these guys we're talking about are a list guys, 804 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 7: and Ceedee Lamb is definitely uh. It needs to be 805 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,759 Speaker 7: mentioned in the same breath as those justin Jefferson's Davante out. 806 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 7: He needs to be there because the numbers dictate that 807 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 7: he should. The thing is going forward. You look at 808 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 7: this offense and its not playing chicken where a mac 809 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 7: truck gets from the front office. You got to have 810 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 7: him at the beginning of the season. So no matter 811 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 7: how you look at it, you can't make this contentious 812 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 7: contentious enough that he has a it is. It says 813 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 7: I'm gonna stay out and you guys just figured out 814 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 7: Emmett Smith. It is a classic example of a guy 815 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 7: that just said, look, I ain't coming back until the 816 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 7: deal gets done. And what happened to the Cowboys have 817 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 7: to lose a few games two for them to say 818 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 7: I let's go ahead and get this pushed over to 819 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 7: your image. So you could get that sign I just 820 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 7: think that, Ceed Lamb, And I'm just going back to 821 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 7: the beginning of the season. Those first four games, he 822 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 7: really didn't make an impact. And so if he was 823 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 7: even able to have ae hundred yard two hundred yard, 824 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 7: I mean you're talking about that seventeen hundred yards possibly 825 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 7: being a two thousand yard season the way that he 826 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 7: came on. And so look, I think whatever number he's mentioning, 827 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 7: it starts at thirty five. Gotta be starts at thirty five. 828 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 7: And I don't know what the structure of the deal is. 829 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 7: If he's looking at the three year, four whatever it is, 830 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 7: it's all funny money anyway. He just hey, give me 831 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 7: the sign up on this down. Oh god, this is 832 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 7: this is crazy. So got to get that deal done. 833 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb. 834 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 4: And you go back and you think about that draft 835 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 4: and the receivers that were taken in the first round. 836 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 4: The first receiver off the board, John Gruton and the 837 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 4: Raiders took Henry Ruggs out of Alabama. 838 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 839 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 4: The second receiver off the board Jerry Judy from Alabama. 840 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,839 Speaker 4: Ruggs and Judy from Alabama, they both on national championship teams. 841 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 5: Denver took him. 842 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 4: He's no longer with the Broncos, and Rugs ended up 843 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 4: losing his career through through off the field stuff. So 844 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 4: Ruggs gone out of the league, Judy no longer with 845 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 4: the Broncos. Then you add Ceedee Lamb Cowboys taking him seventeen. 846 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 4: Jalen Rager gets taken. God, he still he's no longer 847 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 4: with the Equals, no longer with the he was on 848 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 4: somebody's seen last might have been with Minnesota. He might 849 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,760 Speaker 4: have been with Minnesota last year. And then Jefferson Mm hmm. 850 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 5: That was a miss. That was a miss. 851 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 4: So you think about the too. Yeah, these two receivers 852 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 4: in the back end. And of course you know the 853 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 4: Philly fans are mad as heck about uh Jalen Rager 854 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 4: and and uh because I. 855 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 5: Guess the tape is. 856 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 4: And it was because interesting because zim zim was there 857 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 4: at the time, Mike zimmer cow was out of defensive coordinator. 858 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 4: I guess they laughed. There's video like they laughed about Phil. 859 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 5: And then they're like turn the. 860 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 4: Guard and we're taking jeff and and and then to think, yes, 861 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 4: just think about the you know, two guys to Alabama. 862 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,759 Speaker 5: Alabama guys were good. Now make sure they were good. 863 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 5: Ruggs was amazing down to Julie, I thought was better 864 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 5: than Druggs. 865 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 4: But at this level, this pro level, wow, I mean, 866 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 4: you know, first of all, I did think that Lamb 867 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 4: was miscast, Like, okay, what a guy's looking at me? 868 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 5: This was he was a great player. You know, he 869 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 5: had hurt me. He was a great player, uh at Oklahoma. 870 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 4: But it was just very surprising and to Church and 871 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,440 Speaker 4: I at that time we were doing the podcast, we 872 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 4: did our mock. We had said the Cowboys need to 873 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 4: use that pick on Trayvonn all about yes, we were 874 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 4: all because they needed a corner. We're all about digs. 875 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 4: But then it's right there. And so the Cowboys did 876 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 4: the smart thing, even with a Mario Cooper Roun. They 877 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 4: took Ceedee Lamb and then lucky enough dan Quinn took 878 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 4: a j I can't remember his name, but they took 879 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 4: the corner from Clemson instead of taking digs. 880 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 5: And then Diggs falls in the second round. 881 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 4: The Cowboys get Lamb and digs and you talk about 882 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 4: just too slam dunk, uh, you know too all pro 883 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 4: two all pro picks. 884 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys have gotten an opportunity 885 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 7: to see that show receiver. 886 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 5: Yes, check it out. 887 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it is the way that they follow 888 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 7: those guys and just kind of show their game and 889 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 7: how they prep justin Jefferson is the real deal as 890 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 7: a player, as a person, you know, and it just 891 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 7: you couldn't help but fall in love with the kind 892 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,439 Speaker 7: of person that he is, his charisma as a person, 893 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 7: but just the way that he prepared for the game. 894 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 7: But you also see just his suddenness as as a player, 895 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 7: and it knew you. You know, you've obviously been around 896 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 7: the league so long you recognize, man that so many 897 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 7: of the pundits and people that talk about the game 898 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,840 Speaker 7: never had that respect for slot receivers. It's always the 899 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 7: guy that's furthest from the ball, that's your dog. Who 900 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 7: the guys on the outside receiver one the Jerry Rice is, 901 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,919 Speaker 7: the Michael irvs. The guys that made their life out 902 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 7: on an island. Now the NFL has changed, it's it's 903 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 7: spread them out the best way you can. And if 904 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 7: I can get my best player in the slot, I'm 905 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 7: gonna misuse you on a linebacker or I'm gonna miss 906 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 7: I mean, it's gonna be an adjustment problem. And I 907 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 7: think that the offense of these offensive coordinators have gotten 908 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 7: so smart and it's so layered in the way that 909 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 7: they attack these defenses. When you have a Justin Jefferson 910 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 7: who can be on a linebacker, who could be on 911 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 7: a safety Ceedee lamb is. Look, he can't go anywhere 912 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 7: but up because he's a mismatch. He's a matchup Night 913 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 7: Mayor on the inside. And these guys are getting these 914 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 7: big contracts off of playing in the slot, something that 915 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 7: twenty years ago nobody would even you're a slot receiver. 916 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 7: That's why you're getting it like that because you got 917 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 7: Mike Lervian on the other side. 918 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 4: What does Jefferson do with the quarterback change? That's going 919 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 4: to be very interesting. 920 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 5: Who got over there? Sam Donald and JJJ McCarthy. 921 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 7: He showed you last year though he played with some 922 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 7: some tomato cans for sure last year and still you know, 923 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 7: it was relatively good. 924 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 5: We saw Davante Adams with the Raiders. Oh, he's being 925 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 5: punished with Jimmy Garoppolo. He did something in his past life. 926 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 5: I'm not going to ruin the show for you, but 927 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 5: you got it. Yeah, but I. 928 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 4: Go back into just looking at the Cowboys now at 929 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 4: a certain point time, if you're Dak Prescott and your 930 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 4: CD LAMB and yes you want to get what you 931 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 4: feel you deserve, but you've got a good combination, right, 932 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 4: yes you do. I would take that into consideration for 933 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 4: both parties of Hey man, look, you want your bread. 934 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 5: I want my bread. 935 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 4: But let's not try to take so much bread that 936 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 4: we break the US up. Shaquillo knew how a great 937 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 4: thing I was watching on on one of his podcasts 938 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 4: and he spoke about how he wished he'd taken a 939 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 4: little less to stay with Kobe Bryant even though he 940 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 4: went to Miami with d Wade and win a championships. 941 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,959 Speaker 4: That I should have taken a little less was again 942 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 4: not trying to church. 943 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 5: You were in that situation. You don't do that, b Cemo. 944 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 4: But I say, called Davante Adams, Hey, but he has that? 945 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 4: How's that has all? 946 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 5: You got? All that money all going past him? 947 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 4: Because what you need you need to catch the ball 948 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 4: and you need to get your stats to keep on going. 949 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 5: Because I think all three of us would. 950 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 4: Say the Davante's career that he's built so far is 951 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 4: hall of fame worthy of considering. He's still got more 952 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 4: to put, but he's putting together. It's like Zach Martz, like, hey, 953 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 4: as you start to look at like, are you putting 954 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 4: together something where they need to consider he has, but 955 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 4: you don't have Aaron anymore. 956 00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 5: And your boy car is gone. Now what they got 957 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 5: out there now O'Connell or something. Yeah, it's pretty bad, right. 958 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 4: Right, So that's why I go back and just see 959 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 4: thee lamb. I get one in the money. But if 960 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 4: you took a little less and you dak, you took 961 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 4: a little less so you could make sure you're playing 962 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 4: with a top flight guy said, go have a conversation 963 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 4: with Shaquille O'Neal about putting it. 964 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 5: Anybody saying that, hey man, it's taking no twenty percent. 965 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 4: We ain't saying going to become dollar general up here, 966 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 4: you know. But I'm just saying be smart and make 967 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 4: sure you get something because look at the monte and 968 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 4: obviously you're telling us to watch the receiver to go 969 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,439 Speaker 4: see it. Okay, See it's frustrating, all right, fun stuff Jazz, 970 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 4: appreciate you, Chris Bean, Joshi heckman Man, good stuff here, 971 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 4: Barry Church. 972 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 5: I'm players that we're going to talk to you tomorrow. Okay, 973 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 5: let's do this again tomorrow. Tomorrow, tomorrow. 974 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 4: Right here, two PI, right here, Dallas Comrading. 975 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 976 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.