Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No
Speaker 1: Sellers podcast with your host now funk that with your
Speaker 1: low glasses, Malone. Whatever he felt like bothered him, right,
Speaker 1: instead of being like, we have this thing in society
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, well you know she's a slut,
Speaker 1: you don't have to shame her or blah blah, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: if you don't want to be shamed for being a slut,
Speaker 1: or if you don't want to shame for, you know,
Speaker 1: be shamed for not being poor, right, that's when you
Speaker 1: have to dedicate all energies to not being outside of that,
Speaker 1: you know, you just playing yourself. Like my sister is
Speaker 1: my older sister Sean till my older sister Joanna. They
Speaker 1: had a big problem with me being a gang banker,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I always felt like
Speaker 1: they would tell their kids kind of deal with me
Speaker 1: in a certain way because I was a crypt You know,
Speaker 1: I am a crypt, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I thought they may be in their minds that define me.
Speaker 1: But if I never got an attitude with them fitting
Speaker 1: like that, whatever they thought of it was what it
Speaker 1: was versus me, and I never decided I was gonna
Speaker 1: not be it because of what they thought. If they
Speaker 1: can crypt shame me feel me being a fucking crypt.
Speaker 1: There's a lack of consensus on how to define a
Speaker 1: mass shooting. Most terms define a minimum of three or
Speaker 1: four victims of gun violence, not including the shooter, in
Speaker 1: a short period of time, although in Australia study from
Speaker 1: two thousand six prescribes a minimum of five and an
Speaker 1: added requirement that the victims actually die as opposed to
Speaker 1: being shot injured but not necessarily killed. That's how defining
Speaker 1: a mass shooter and start up Pete that ship troubling
Speaker 1: to me, right, because at that point you would have
Speaker 1: to cover any military violence when they shoot up something
Speaker 1: in the town. That means you're not report knows. Well,
Speaker 1: those are a little bit different because unless it's a
Speaker 1: war crime, it's not really a crime, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that's my thing, Like, it's not just
Speaker 1: a crime. Like I think consensus as an as as
Speaker 1: a public, we all agree a mass shooting usually requires
Speaker 1: innocent victims to some degree. Yeah, Like hypothetically, let's say
Speaker 1: there are a lot of great examples of mass like
Speaker 1: police shooting is usually there's only like one or two.
Speaker 1: Actually like to say, like if the Waco thing, it
Speaker 1: wasn't like what however they botched and burned everybody up.
Speaker 1: But if it was like twenty criminals hold up into
Speaker 1: some sort of up um like a bunker, and d
Speaker 1: FBI or whatever the hell law enforcement apparatus went in
Speaker 1: and cleared them out and they all died. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I would consider that a mass shooting,
Speaker 1: because you could, I guess, But that's how I feel
Speaker 1: about gang violence. When two gangs are beefing, you feel
Speaker 1: me and somebody when two gangs are at war, When
Speaker 1: two communities are at war, right, and they having their
Speaker 1: issues and they're setting it, they settling it primitively as
Speaker 1: poor people, and you know, as they do right and
Speaker 1: literally having their issues, and you know, this community goes
Speaker 1: over here and shoots five of those guys, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: like to consider that a mass shooting. I think there's
Speaker 1: a very pivotal adjective that could be added to that
Speaker 1: term mass shooting. Random, Like if if there's a beef
Speaker 1: between gang and gang B and it's a calculated hit,
Speaker 1: even if it knocks out twenty, it's not random. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: But I think I think when they make it this
Speaker 1: open it they're using, it becomes conversation of things that
Speaker 1: are not related to sway a whole another political angle. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying people in the community are not victims
Speaker 1: of gun violence, but all gun violence, again is not
Speaker 1: the equivalent of mats shootings. Like what's going on between
Speaker 1: the sixties and families is nothing like what happened in Texas,
Speaker 1: you know a week or two ago, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Where that dude went to that elementary school
Speaker 1: and you know what that the eight year old man
Speaker 1: went to the elementary school and shot elementary gears. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the main reason why what we see here
Speaker 1: with the heightened focus of it, is the random element. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the majority of the corporate media apparatus is left leaning
Speaker 1: and is big, big time invested on on gun control legislation.
Speaker 1: If you know where deliberate gun violence happens, you can
Speaker 1: avoid it, so it's not that big a deal. You
Speaker 1: just don't go there. If it's randomized, now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know it involves any and everybody, meaning
Speaker 1: that gray area voter that would be possibly an independent
Speaker 1: type person, and you can say Okay, well, now is
Speaker 1: our opportunity. People are you know, are hysterical and whipped
Speaker 1: up in the moment to pass some massive sweeping a
Speaker 1: lot that on a sober mind, most people wouldn't otherwise
Speaker 1: go for mm hm no ceilings, glasses low a man.
Speaker 1: Peter Boss in the spot, my manager and podcaster extraordinary
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Speaker 1: I agree, And you know, as far as when we're
Speaker 1: saying that, that's why I don't like it, because it
Speaker 1: feels like it's a political ploy to connected to this
Speaker 1: random acts of violence. Like I've had this conversation with
Speaker 1: people that you know when people say senseless violence when
Speaker 1: they're talking about communities going to war, and it's like,
Speaker 1: I think that's different because you can't make sense out
Speaker 1: of it. By that same standard, we could say every war,
Speaker 1: the war between Ukraine and Russia is senseless violence. But
Speaker 1: somebody or to two people or whatever, it may make sense. Now,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, because by that same standards you
Speaker 1: can say tell that little the little weirdo, the little
Speaker 1: weirdod man in texts that may says to him. Sure.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that kind of centers around
Speaker 1: the the idea that the conversation I'll be I'm gonna
Speaker 1: use very frank language on this. The rest of the
Speaker 1: reason why the large you know, aggregate numbers of urban
Speaker 1: black community crime statistics get lumped into this is because
Speaker 1: the push to try to take these randomized acts, which
Speaker 1: they are largely random, he has to do with gun control.
Speaker 1: So so an opposition viewpoint to that says, oh, well,
Speaker 1: if you look at aggregate gun violence, most of it's
Speaker 1: done by guns that are already illegal, so and and
Speaker 1: and then that muddies the conversation and the assess none
Speaker 1: in the whole thing. It brings people into it, and
Speaker 1: it starts to instead of trying to define the gun,
Speaker 1: now you're defining the crime and you're defining the motive
Speaker 1: or defining the context everything that everything gets very blurry,
Speaker 1: everything with laying accountability on the actual perpetrator. So you
Speaker 1: start talking about the instruments and everything goes versus the that. Um,
Speaker 1: I know we've had a conversation about gun control. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but I thought about this, Where would you stand right
Speaker 1: if there was a complete agreement right to some level
Speaker 1: of the masses, right, not the votes. But they say, hey,
Speaker 1: we want there to be no more guns in America,
Speaker 1: not the police, not anybody outside the military, you know,
Speaker 1: fighting off in wars. How would you feel about turning
Speaker 1: over your weapons at that point? I would laugh my
Speaker 1: ass off. I would walk outside with a hammer and
Speaker 1: I would break my car window and take a self
Speaker 1: on picture of my broken window and say, my gun
Speaker 1: was in the car, was gonna go turn it? That's
Speaker 1: someone stole it? And it would be like apartment What
Speaker 1: is it that you think people feel the need of
Speaker 1: their gun for, Let's say, if nobody had a gun,
Speaker 1: Is it because you think somebody's always going to have
Speaker 1: a gun. It's part of that. It's part principle, it's
Speaker 1: part so it's such a number of factors. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think if you look at the United States over
Speaker 1: the last two years, and you look at Australia over
Speaker 1: the last two years, you weren't allowed to go outside
Speaker 1: at night in Australia for like a year and a half.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna be able to really do
Speaker 1: that so much in the States, you know, and like
Speaker 1: to be honest, the reason is we saw the cowardice
Speaker 1: of the you know, deployed law enforcement in this setting
Speaker 1: with one guy right just last week. If if you
Speaker 1: had a federal man, no one in the country is
Speaker 1: allowed to go anywhere or do anything for the rest
Speaker 1: of this year and the rest of next year because
Speaker 1: of COVID, and then you sent out, you know, the
Speaker 1: dot dot dot county Sheriff's to go and force it
Speaker 1: against the really piste off people with real guns and
Speaker 1: real numbers. They're not gonna go over there and die
Speaker 1: for that. They'd punk out and the whole thing would unravel.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about countries like Japan where
Speaker 1: guns are pretty much impossible to to have in the
Speaker 1: police don't carry guns. Japan is a unique element. Um.
Speaker 1: It is an island. It does have a you know
Speaker 1: that there are certain gifts and takes culturally between the
Speaker 1: US and and between Japan. UM. I would rather live
Speaker 1: in an environment where I might be a little bit
Speaker 1: at risk than live in what Shanghai is presently, um,
Speaker 1: where people are literally jumping out of buildings because of
Speaker 1: starving death. They have been allowed to go outside of
Speaker 1: right shank as in China. But I'm miss saying as
Speaker 1: far as being able to provide some sort of defined
Speaker 1: second and pushed back over tyranny. You know. Additionally, we
Speaker 1: are a partially landlocked country with landlocked borders. There are
Speaker 1: I mean I read a study. There was a very
Speaker 1: good study. The methodology was sound, so that there was
Speaker 1: approximately two thousand illegal guns a day that come up
Speaker 1: to the southern border, and this was during the Trum administration,
Speaker 1: which the southern border was tighter. That probably means it's
Speaker 1: close to a million illegal guns that enter the United
Speaker 1: States per year. That's a lot. So and that's with
Speaker 1: no demand. If if if there were, if guns were
Speaker 1: really illegal, illegal like that, then the demand would spike,
Speaker 1: so the desire to fill that demand and price would
Speaker 1: spike as well. You see, more than that, it's we
Speaker 1: can't keep illegal anything out of this country. We can't
Speaker 1: keep illegal drugs out of this country. We can't keep
Speaker 1: illegal Louis Vattan phony and bags out of this country.
Speaker 1: We can't keep illegal farm workers and janitors at this country.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, we can't keep anything out. So the
Speaker 1: idea that we're gonna suddenly magically snap a finger and
Speaker 1: keep guns out dumb and random mass shooters by and large,
Speaker 1: that ends three ways, life in prison, death in prison,
Speaker 1: or death on the scene. If those three things, don't
Speaker 1: attern you what a year or two in jail. Oh
Speaker 1: I'm down to get sprayed up by the cops and
Speaker 1: die here and now. But don't give me those eighteen
Speaker 1: months for the gun charge. Said nobody ever much crime?
Speaker 1: Do you think? So, Lee? And we're on the you know,
Speaker 1: on the you know we're we're we're the day after
Speaker 1: of all of the school shootings. Do you really have
Speaker 1: a solution? Do you have a solution that you feel
Speaker 1: is valuable? I think best of viable solution is probably
Speaker 1: like for schools, is you know the security standards at schools.
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard some catch phrase is not not
Speaker 1: big on hashtag catch phrases where it's like we protect
Speaker 1: our banks more than to protect our schools. Well that's
Speaker 1: actually true. Um. A guy that our follow. His name
Speaker 1: is Adam Calhoun. He's a rapper, the white guy, uh
Speaker 1: from the South somewhere. He was so no relation to
Speaker 1: cool Breeze and those calvinis no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: this is super super American super nationalists. What I'm saying, um, dope,
Speaker 1: don't tie it to them. See I like him a lot. Um.
Speaker 1: But he had a point. He was saying like we
Speaker 1: protect our banks and everything else with men with guns,
Speaker 1: but not our schools. M hm. And I just I
Speaker 1: think I get what he's saying. Um, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, morally, I guess, okay, So what it is
Speaker 1: is morally I want to feel like we should keep
Speaker 1: kids away from the concept of guns and so forth
Speaker 1: and so on. But then again, you know, if they're
Speaker 1: playing video games and certain things where guns are available.
Speaker 1: You know, if your kids go to the bank with
Speaker 1: their parents, if your kids go to the airport, if
Speaker 1: your kids go through any government building anywhere ever, they're
Speaker 1: gonna see security guns. It's not crazy. If the police,
Speaker 1: if the if your kid sees a policemen passed by,
Speaker 1: that's a an authorized gentleman with the gun who's supposed
Speaker 1: to be, you know, fulfilling or protecting the peace. I mean, like, like,
Speaker 1: my mom's a vice principle in elementary school, so she
Speaker 1: has to coordinate the whole Every year, they have to
Speaker 1: train all the teachers for like the way we we
Speaker 1: would do used to earthquake drills members kids. They have
Speaker 1: now mass shooting tutorials. But the police show up and
Speaker 1: they tell the teachers, well, there's two things you can
Speaker 1: do for a mass shooting. You can lock the doors
Speaker 1: and push your desk against the door, or you can
Speaker 1: run out into the grass. It's like, what are you
Speaker 1: shooting me? And that's all that they have available for
Speaker 1: their ideas, and that's the police department showing up and
Speaker 1: telling them that what's crazy is I was reading about
Speaker 1: mass shootings and in America, one of the oldest mass shootings,
Speaker 1: right excuse me. A school shooting was November twelve, forty Charttesville, Virginia.
Speaker 1: Charles Philist for a long time with Day, a law
Speaker 1: professor at the University of Virginia, was shot by students
Speaker 1: Joseph Simmons and died three days later. Wow in the forties,
Speaker 1: eighteen forty, eighteen fifty, it was a school shooting in Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: In eighteen fifty six, it was a school shooting at
Speaker 1: eighteen fifty six in Florence, Alabama. M There was a
Speaker 1: school shooting in Baltimore, Maryland. In the eighteen fifty eight
Speaker 1: h There was a school shooting in eighteen sixty and
Speaker 1: Ty County, Kentucky eighteen sixty four. At Ashland County, Ohio.
Speaker 1: In eighteen sixty seven right here in California, a town
Speaker 1: called nights Ferry that must have been the only school here.
Speaker 1: They had one school and got shot up. Man, when
Speaker 1: you just think about and and that's what worthyes me
Speaker 1: right is I hear a lot of people talking about
Speaker 1: gun control, and California and New York have the strictest
Speaker 1: laws in all of the states. I'm not sure this
Speaker 1: is true, but I know they have really stratched away
Speaker 1: up there. There's there're slight yeah, Maryland's d C. Cook County,
Speaker 1: Illinois play you know, there's some spots that are comfortable,
Speaker 1: but they're very high I re used. In the last
Speaker 1: ninety days, there were scooled. There were mass shootings in
Speaker 1: both places. Yep. And I was talking to my home girl,
Speaker 1: Shay that I grew up with, crossing from mom house
Speaker 1: in Comfon, and she was saying it was a band
Speaker 1: on assault rifles. Oh, you know, we need to ban
Speaker 1: assault rifles. Like, well, it's not even a thing. I
Speaker 1: don't think you really need a salt rifles. She like, well,
Speaker 1: the majority of the shootings happening with the salt rifles.
Speaker 1: And I explained to her, I was like, well, the
Speaker 1: shooting in New York was done with a block seventeam
Speaker 1: a couple of old Well. Also, I think there was
Speaker 1: a handgun used in the subway shooting in New York
Speaker 1: as well. There were two in the state of New
Speaker 1: York recently. Yeah, yeah, there was. Oh yeah the one
Speaker 1: the racers shooting where the dude was a buffalo and
Speaker 1: he not gott all the those people. Yeah, yeah, that's tough, man,
Speaker 1: what side side question like that? Okay, if the two
Speaker 1: things in New York was, and I'm asking, I'm not surmising,
Speaker 1: was the was the guy who the black dude like
Speaker 1: he might have been career I don't know if he
Speaker 1: was Africa, he was just American who shot up the subway.
Speaker 1: He had some sort of weird cause. Was he like
Speaker 1: some sort of like semi racist black nationalist kind of
Speaker 1: guy or was he just like a weirdough you know,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what is he he has.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of manifest of he was talking about homeless
Speaker 1: people in America. Okay, some stuff I don't know. I
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of tens. It would have been interesting.
Speaker 1: At the same state had dueling race driven mass shootings
Speaker 1: in the same month. Oh, I could imagine a black
Speaker 1: person shoot white people because a man, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that boyfucker would make it out of nothing. Uh I
Speaker 1: turned himself into McDonald's at me all bad um. I
Speaker 1: was telling Sherry that and she what was weird is
Speaker 1: she was calling a fake shooting. She's like, that's a
Speaker 1: fake mass shooting. I'm like the one where the black
Speaker 1: dude was shooting the people on the train states. I'm like, shared,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's actually got shot. I don't think it's actually cool
Speaker 1: to call that a fake shooting. What would be Why
Speaker 1: would it be fake? Like the gun fired and people
Speaker 1: were hit. I don't know what else he needed. I
Speaker 1: was like, motherfucker's got shot. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Like Dick and the motherfucker called it a fake mash
Speaker 1: shooting through my fucking side. What a shoot? Joe, stupid
Speaker 1: as you call my fake That's like calling the third
Speaker 1: plane that went down on nine level in the field
Speaker 1: it was a fake plane crash or something. So you
Speaker 1: think the solution his arm guards at the school something
Speaker 1: like that. You have to go somewhere in that direction.
Speaker 1: I mean, all this other crap is comedic to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, like to try to go after the the
Speaker 1: actor when you're when when you're that dedicated, when you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm whatever it is that torments you to that degree.
Speaker 1: If you're I am ready to die for this here
Speaker 1: and now dedicated, it doesn't matter. You know, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You can't stop that because what are you gonna threaten
Speaker 1: the person with. They've laughed off all the threats because
Speaker 1: they said, the greatest thing you can give somebody is
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kill you right now. If you if they've
Speaker 1: already totally blown that off, then you have nothing m hm.
Speaker 1: So you can't take it at that perspective. Additionally, like this,
Speaker 1: oh we're gonna do mental health background checks? How many
Speaker 1: people in this country have mental health problems that are
Speaker 1: not on paper. I literally was talking to my boys
Speaker 1: about that, and my note, I see a director, um
Speaker 1: that I really funk with two Dion, Um, what's dion
Speaker 1: last name? Because hold on, I'm gonna tell you what
Speaker 1: dion last name is? Like this dude the shooter in Texas,
Speaker 1: for example, he had no cript. Yeah, I'm sorry. His
Speaker 1: name is uh Deon Taylor, super dope brother direct films.
Speaker 1: And he was saying that he was talking about like
Speaker 1: mental checks, and I'm like, dog my boy, Jay you
Speaker 1: and Manny was from Long Beach. They was like mental checks,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, bro, they're going to discriminate. And guess
Speaker 1: who're not gonna get it anytime you allow America to discriminate.
Speaker 1: For sure, black people is for sure not gonna be
Speaker 1: getting ship. Yeah, it's gonna be black people in Republicans. Yeah, drip,
Speaker 1: that's also a bit. For sure, Nick is not getting shipped.
Speaker 1: So how like, how do you just define that anyway?
Speaker 1: Like so what so I after then go that Now
Speaker 1: you're opening the same conversation as to what my biggest
Speaker 1: beef with criminal justices, And that's the subjectivity of individual
Speaker 1: judges and individual jurisdictions. I'm gonna go to Dr A
Speaker 1: and he's gonna say I'm crazy. And Joe Blow is
Speaker 1: gonna go to Dr B. He's gonna say his funky,
Speaker 1: weirdoh ass is perfectly fine, and he's gonna get a
Speaker 1: gun and I'm not. And I'm gonna go this is
Speaker 1: a miscarriage of the law. You can't it's asinine and
Speaker 1: on all. All I'm gonna do is be like to
Speaker 1: give me a goddamn burner. Than fuck it, he's fictitious.
Speaker 1: The doctor doesn't exist. I can't threaten someone that didn't exist.
Speaker 1: I just think it's funny we live in a state
Speaker 1: or we live in a country, and it freess me
Speaker 1: out with people from the community where will like will
Speaker 1: acknowledge racism and oppression, everything else, all the bigotry, and
Speaker 1: we still will create eight some kind of support for
Speaker 1: people that want to make decisions for us that historically
Speaker 1: have shown that they are not in our favorite That
Speaker 1: is my biggest point of intellectual conflict with Black America.
Speaker 1: So it's like my favorite thing about black and not
Speaker 1: my favorite thing, but like a thing that I respect
Speaker 1: a ton about like Black America in general, is the
Speaker 1: skepticism towards government and the critical thought. That's like the
Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction is critical thought. I think that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: But those those very same people will vote for expansive
Speaker 1: government oversight in the very same breath. And it's there's
Speaker 1: like a a conflict where those two things don't run parallel.
Speaker 1: I it doesn't make sense to me. And and this
Speaker 1: is a great example because again you know, that's probably
Speaker 1: my biggest problem. And and and like you'll see people
Speaker 1: pressing the line like all this government is racism. They'll
Speaker 1: show you judges, you know, making funked up verdicts for
Speaker 1: people are the same crime. You know, you know, obviously
Speaker 1: a bit of context, but you could just see in
Speaker 1: certain places where obviously this government is not necessarily in
Speaker 1: our favor, you know, and then they'll be mad at
Speaker 1: a person like Ted Crews who's like, you're not, like
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep these guns. And it's like it's almost weird,
Speaker 1: like like it blows me away where it's it's do
Speaker 1: you not think this government is an oppressive, racive regime?
Speaker 1: Do you not think you know these people are not?
Speaker 1: Or are you just kind of shrink the cancer, shrink
Speaker 1: the cancer, or are you just convinced that is that
Speaker 1: Democrats are friendly? And then it's just like it's almost
Speaker 1: it's so weird because yeah, I don't think you nailed it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, that ship folks with me. And
Speaker 1: when I see this certain situation, you know, like like
Speaker 1: a school shooting right where motherfucker's is getting shot like kids,
Speaker 1: and like we're arguing about gun control, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I said, somebody said, who's to blame? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, the asshole that went did it? Oh, you know,
Speaker 1: people got mental problems. And I'm like, yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: still an asshole that one did that. Like you could
Speaker 1: have went and did that ship to the bullies that
Speaker 1: was bullying you, the people that called you poor, and
Speaker 1: that would have been sucked up. But at least to
Speaker 1: some degree, you know, motherfucker's back. Well that was your bully,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? That's the question over that.
Speaker 1: That's That's what it is. How many fruit loops are
Speaker 1: there a skitter o downtown, like fifty thousand, hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: It's like the number of down there is crazy, maybe
Speaker 1: a couple hundred years. It's a ton of How many
Speaker 1: mass shootings are there down there? None? And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it's because there's some sort of great infrastructure preventing
Speaker 1: it from happening, because there isn't. There's not. I'm just
Speaker 1: simply saying that the mental health thing isn't that great
Speaker 1: of a defining factor, whereas you can a target mental
Speaker 1: health and think it's going to solve a problem, because
Speaker 1: you're again, I don't know what that really. That's such
Speaker 1: a broad man. Charlotte Mayne again, we talked about this
Speaker 1: last week or the week before. Yes, Charlotte May clashed
Speaker 1: so hard because I genuinely think like this becomes such
Speaker 1: a broad conversation that's really no conversation at all. It
Speaker 1: becomes a conversation for society that you know, a society
Speaker 1: that really can you know, like a fourth therapy. Again,
Speaker 1: it's such a mainstream conversation to me that it really
Speaker 1: don't mean nothing, where like we're like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: get your mind together, like people chose to have their
Speaker 1: minds fucked up or yeah, like not chose how their minds.
Speaker 1: But it's again, like I said, it's like telling the
Speaker 1: rape victim to see therapist, but they're getting raped again
Speaker 1: tonight for sure. And like so if you believe, you know,
Speaker 1: oppression and racism is a lot of casts to the
Speaker 1: problems to pour people in this country. You know what
Speaker 1: are we talking about? Like they could fix the problem theirselves.
Speaker 1: Like I just don't get that. And it's the same
Speaker 1: when we start talking about you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: people have brought that up to me where they say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know, like we need to deal with mental health
Speaker 1: when it comes to shooting. You know, these school shooters,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, sorry, I don't know if that's as
Speaker 1: simple as a mentally unhealthy problem. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: saying a pedophile would be like mental health. I don't
Speaker 1: think some of these things are mentally unhealthy. Some of
Speaker 1: these people are just fucking fine and in their mind
Speaker 1: they're wired in a way to do something that you know,
Speaker 1: society will not ever agree or understand. Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think some of this ship is you know, a mistake
Speaker 1: like this ain't a slip up moment, Like it takes
Speaker 1: a lot to murder, you know, nineteen elementary school kids,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, like mentally in your
Speaker 1: mind executed like you just stopped at the same like yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna stand it for You're gonna stand in front
Speaker 1: of that, you know, like the second kids you shot
Speaker 1: you down, these little kids, Like I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's as simple as mentally unhealthy. I think some people
Speaker 1: are just wired incorrectly and like tough to catch them
Speaker 1: thousand percent. And the mental health thing, like like that
Speaker 1: whole ship is it's so vague and so broad and
Speaker 1: it's it it's not effective, you know, it's it's really
Speaker 1: not like there's people with defined mental health issues and
Speaker 1: family people of means who've been getting the best of
Speaker 1: help for a long time. You know how much positive
Speaker 1: impact I can point to in those processes? Zero? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's what you know. Private money with public money,
Speaker 1: it's always less per head, so it's gonna be less.
Speaker 1: It's just it's not the answer like you want to know,
Speaker 1: like like even this is a fair it's this is
Speaker 1: a better parallel. I think a lot of people maybe
Speaker 1: might want to admit it face value. Kama Kaze air
Speaker 1: Force pilots for Imperials or Panic World War two, they
Speaker 1: were really really really hard to stop, right and it
Speaker 1: almost swung the outcome of the Pacific theater they got.
Speaker 1: They started it so late that they couldn't capitalize on
Speaker 1: the momentum that it provided. Because if somebody is that
Speaker 1: dedicated to an outcome that they are willing to die
Speaker 1: for it before or you threatened death upon them, they
Speaker 1: are going to get it done. Period. You can see
Speaker 1: that with with with the hottest um bombers who are
Speaker 1: who are like suicide bombers. You can't stop them. What
Speaker 1: are you gonna threaten them with? You see it with
Speaker 1: Kama Kazi palace. You see it with these people, if
Speaker 1: you've taken, if they have taken your greatest deterrent from you,
Speaker 1: you have no deterrent. You have to at that point
Speaker 1: have deterring force. I literally was explaining to somebody about gangs.
Speaker 1: Is like when your life don't have value, when you
Speaker 1: don't think you're like, you know, vialable to other human beings, family,
Speaker 1: your girl, like when you come from our communities. For me,
Speaker 1: life doesn't have the same value. If you don't value
Speaker 1: your life, you won't value other people's life. I mean,
Speaker 1: and then and our community. It's tough because you are
Speaker 1: measured in way by what you have, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And old body got ship like it could
Speaker 1: be a poor motherfucker that lives Nick Jordan's. You gotta
Speaker 1: pair of Jordan's. You don't talk ship as he lived
Speaker 1: in Project Unit eleven oh two and you live in
Speaker 1: the level on one. But he got some Jordan's and
Speaker 1: they're going to make you feel bad because you don't
Speaker 1: have these shoes in that community. So UM still to
Speaker 1: catch you up. The question I guess we want to ask,
Speaker 1: is um, all of these school shootings going on, do
Speaker 1: you actually have a viable solution that you believe. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Um. And it's kind of ironic because
Speaker 1: that's what we talked about when she see yesterday we
Speaker 1: had an episode about that, and I'm saying, no, well,
Speaker 1: we all in the same thing, so you know anyway ship.
Speaker 1: But but in all seriousness, Broke, I think that we
Speaker 1: have been programmed and condition as a people and all
Speaker 1: for communities, especially in the Black community, because we spend
Speaker 1: more money than any other group in the country Black,
Speaker 1: you know, African Americans spending way more money. We consume
Speaker 1: more content than anybody else. We look at all this stuff, right,
Speaker 1: and I think we've been conditioned to where our value.
Speaker 1: We we placed the value on our sales based on
Speaker 1: what we have or what we don't have. Sure, and
Speaker 1: I think right now when we're looking at man, uh,
Speaker 1: I just saw it, um Instagram real this morning. There
Speaker 1: was a five year old boy talking to his teacher
Speaker 1: and he was saying, I want to be a murderer
Speaker 1: when I grow up. I saw that. I saw it.
Speaker 1: That was awesome. And then the very next clip, I
Speaker 1: saw a kid that was at a gun show obviously,
Speaker 1: and he knew how to break down a K forty
Speaker 1: seven when he was four year five years old g
Speaker 1: and he was breaking it down and this girl was telling, No,
Speaker 1: that's so cute, that's so amazing. So you have two
Speaker 1: different spectrums, right You had white America who's starting to
Speaker 1: get piste off right now, they're piste off to the
Speaker 1: point to where they're just doing the manyest things. Right
Speaker 1: then you have poor lack America right to where we
Speaker 1: are frustration. We may not go out and shoot everybody,
Speaker 1: but it gives us low self esteem and causes us
Speaker 1: to really devalue ourselves to where we don't hold no
Speaker 1: longer hold no value in ourselves because we may not
Speaker 1: have what the person next door I asked, and I
Speaker 1: think we have. That's the biggest problem we have in
Speaker 1: the community is that everybody bases their circumstances of what
Speaker 1: somebody else is doing. You did what I'm saying that
Speaker 1: might be canceling humanity, Oh yeah, for sure. And if
Speaker 1: you want to go deeper, bro, I think the biggest
Speaker 1: issue we have in this country right now is actually,
Speaker 1: I mean, you are part of how we make our living.
Speaker 1: You know, the Internet, there's so much stuff, man, I think, Um,
Speaker 1: I was reading about um predicted programming, right, you know,
Speaker 1: predicting programming. The human brain is a computer. And if
Speaker 1: you hear this with stuff stuff, if you hit the
Speaker 1: human brain consistently with just different images of violence, and
Speaker 1: everything in vincent becomes to sensitize you did what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we somebody asked me that, do
Speaker 1: not do I think I'm desensitized about violence, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I think we are very difficult accusation of sports to
Speaker 1: make to you, how like to avoid violence as a
Speaker 1: human being would almost be to not have a human experience,
Speaker 1: Like I think humanity has this really weird, you know,
Speaker 1: relationship with violence historically. Though here there was nothing text
Speaker 1: you off, bro, It's not predicted programming, it's predicted coding.
Speaker 1: In that theory is in neuroscience prediculating. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: theory of brain function in which the brain is constantly
Speaker 1: generating and updating a mental model of the environment. So
Speaker 1: if you place this an environment sheet to where we
Speaker 1: comes to be showed if you're not sure, if you
Speaker 1: don't have that pair of Georgan's right, that's why you
Speaker 1: get people doing dump stuff like you have with the
Speaker 1: Arabic five year old, even some thirty year olds. They
Speaker 1: know they have their rent coming up in a few weeks.
Speaker 1: Oh man, if I pay this five dollars and be
Speaker 1: short of my rent, but they would go by those
Speaker 1: five that five from Sorgans? Does that happen? That's also
Speaker 1: rooted in I argue. I debate this with women all
Speaker 1: the time, where it's like a lot of the decisions
Speaker 1: they make is based off how people see them, and
Speaker 1: that's a human being issued especial especially communities right where
Speaker 1: like you know, if you meant four universal budgets exactly,
Speaker 1: you give me a triple here today? You got still
Speaker 1: you come anywhere near me. I'm down with me all
Speaker 1: the way to the bottom of the pool with it
Speaker 1: right here. But you you, you just start to you
Speaker 1: start to see like you just want people to not
Speaker 1: treat you poor, you know what I mean. And you'll
Speaker 1: wear whatever outfit. You know, you take the simplest solutions
Speaker 1: to to obtain that effect. You know what I'm saying, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: if I wear this, this looks like I have some money.
Speaker 1: If I have this, this looks like I have some money.
Speaker 1: Versus the concept of having money. I always tell Joey Westside.
Speaker 1: This from the L. A. Johnson. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to look like is a verb. It requires energy
Speaker 1: and action. Feel me, energy It requires action, which requires energy.
Speaker 1: So instead of trying to look like a good person,
Speaker 1: be a good person, because being requires energy. So facing itty,
Speaker 1: you making it ours energy that comes away from making it.
Speaker 1: If you direct all energy into the actual, you know,
Speaker 1: the goal in itself is fine, you just won't get
Speaker 1: that instant gratification of fooling another person. So even like
Speaker 1: in a situation where a little weird, they'll dude that
Speaker 1: killed the elementary schools and Texas because he had been
Speaker 1: bullied because he was poor or um, it looks like
Speaker 1: he was having some kind of he was wearing the skirts,
Speaker 1: so I don't even know where as well, Yeah, pressure
Speaker 1: he dealt with. I don't know quite what's going on,
Speaker 1: but they were. He seemed like a troubled kid based
Speaker 1: off of his experiences. Um, whatever he felt like bothered him. Right,
Speaker 1: Instead of being like, we have this thing in society
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, well you know she's a slut,
Speaker 1: you don't have to shame her or blah blah, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: if you don't want to be shamed for being a slut,
Speaker 1: or if you don't want to shame for you know,
Speaker 1: be shamed for not being poor. Right, that's when you
Speaker 1: have to dedicate all energies to not being outside of that.
Speaker 1: You know, you just playing yourself. Like my sister is
Speaker 1: my older sister Sean till my older sister Joanna. They
Speaker 1: had a big problem with me being a gang banker,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And I always felt like
Speaker 1: they would tell their kids kind of deal with me
Speaker 1: in a certain way because I was a crypt. You know,
Speaker 1: I am a crypt, so you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I thought they may be in their minds that define me.
Speaker 1: But if I never got an attitude with them fitting
Speaker 1: like that, whatever they thought of it was what it
Speaker 1: was versus me, and I never decided I was gonna
Speaker 1: not be it because of what they thought. If they
Speaker 1: can crypt shame me, feel me business being a fucking crypt.
Speaker 1: I just don't make no sense. If you could crypt
Speaker 1: shame me, that means I have no business being a crip.
Speaker 1: If somebody could fat shame you, you have no business
Speaker 1: being fat. Yeah, you know, Kanye said the best in
Speaker 1: this song all falls down, We're all caught up in brands.
Speaker 1: Were all kind up. We all want to be accepted.
Speaker 1: You understand. I wanted to pick up Jazzing from school
Speaker 1: other day, and she had caught me because it's something
Speaker 1: that she forgot. I was actually doing her Nobody chronic, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was actually doing what is because don't nobody know
Speaker 1: your kids like I'm sure the Gangster Chronicles audios know
Speaker 1: your children. No, I don't talk about them on there
Speaker 1: for interrupting me, to kind of interrupt me if I
Speaker 1: go with my story, Mr, make sure I want you
Speaker 1: to who the Jasmine? Jasmine? Yeah? So legal age. Now
Speaker 1: if I ever mentioned that Jazzmine, it's not the same person,
Speaker 1: just as why I right? Yeah, So I wanted to
Speaker 1: pick her up from school, and so I get a
Speaker 1: text message from Maria ten minutes later. Why would you
Speaker 1: go up to Jazzmine school just looking at some kind
Speaker 1: of way and it's like I had a T shirt
Speaker 1: or some short Soon she called me, I was right
Speaker 1: around the corner. I wouldn't go go home and put
Speaker 1: on this free piece suit and come back to the
Speaker 1: school to get, you know, to pick her up, because
Speaker 1: she forgot her book. He wasn't fresh enough to pick
Speaker 1: her up, but she was really like she just looked
Speaker 1: like she was just like, because we're all conscious of
Speaker 1: what our friends think of us. We're talking there from
Speaker 1: a young age. We're talking when you go to school
Speaker 1: with some shoes on, and you always got that one
Speaker 1: kid that seemed like he has every pair of shoes,
Speaker 1: he got the latest jeans, he got the latest T
Speaker 1: shirt or whatever. Right you go to school and that
Speaker 1: same dude is cracking on you and bagging on you
Speaker 1: talking about your shoes or whatever. It makes you feel
Speaker 1: some kind of way. So she basically said to you, look, dad,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna come through looking like that, I'll just
Speaker 1: drop out. Dude, I can't. I can't go to seven
Speaker 1: and eleven without my wife and my daughter telling me
Speaker 1: put something on you. I'm going to the store to
Speaker 1: get something. I'm not going out here to to please nobody.
Speaker 1: I'm not going out there because they're super duper insecure
Speaker 1: and self conscious of what other people think. Um, and
Speaker 1: we're not like like, even growing up, I wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to convince anybody of anything like I was what I was.
Speaker 1: And I think it's because I could be thankful for
Speaker 1: my upbringing with my mom and my pops in good bar. So, um,
Speaker 1: I think that's a normal problem when you're dealing with
Speaker 1: the the traumas that poverty can bring. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that's that's true ist ship in my
Speaker 1: neighborhood too. Huh. That that is so like, it's so
Speaker 1: beyond obnoxious you wouldn't even believe it. I have I
Speaker 1: have white friends. Obviously Peter you one of them. But
Speaker 1: I have white friends, and I see it all the time.
Speaker 1: Then moved the cause of the code code to the cousin.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't love people like me up there,
Speaker 1: but they move somewhere where they really can't afford to
Speaker 1: be m just to keep up appearances. They would drive
Speaker 1: a car that they can't afford just to keep up appearances.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing about it is the guy that
Speaker 1: can act your four that stuff he made it. Have
Speaker 1: the house, but he drives around the f one. Hey,
Speaker 1: my dad drives in that for the fifty. Most rich
Speaker 1: people do drive one fifties. I've noticed they don't because
Speaker 1: they don't care change, get you. Most rich people that
Speaker 1: I know are not trying to convince you they are
Speaker 1: rich exactly, and speaks for itself, you know at one point,
Speaker 1: like I look at my financial situation. Not that it's
Speaker 1: bad right now, but it could have been a lot better. Um.
Speaker 1: I keep a record of all, you know, my transaction stuff,
Speaker 1: not just keep stuff. And now what's going through with
Speaker 1: the other dicks. Mario's actually making me clean the closet.
Speaker 1: That's my wife by the way, Um, that's his wife.
Speaker 1: So I'm in the closet looking at it. Gen do
Speaker 1: you know it's between two thousand and four and two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, all right, made one point two million dollars.
Speaker 1: Now that wasn't all my money. That was what I gross.
Speaker 1: You know, I had to shift, you know, not before
Speaker 1: taxis before I had to share with certain people, like
Speaker 1: with Polar Bear, you know what I mean. It's scared.
Speaker 1: But I looked at it and I received a dick
Speaker 1: from this new company. It was called, um red Box.
Speaker 1: I received the deck because when you start putting so
Speaker 1: much money in the bank, you start getting hit up
Speaker 1: by different people, right, they send you different stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: for investment opportunities, to invession things. I saw that thing
Speaker 1: with Red Box, and I said, who the hell is gon?
Speaker 1: Go rent movies from a thing outside me, no body,
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. I threw it in the trash. Now,
Speaker 1: let's say, g I would have invested maybe fifty thousands
Speaker 1: of that hundred thousand. How much money would I have? Now?
Speaker 1: How long you held it? You know? Now you had
Speaker 1: that safe loan that motherfunck about three months a year
Speaker 1: four years ago. Well, you know, red boxes cracking for
Speaker 1: a minute. But I'm just saying, you know, doing all
Speaker 1: that I could have, you know, made a substantial amount
Speaker 1: of money on my investment. Right. I also had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to fly laundry Matt and I remember going to
Speaker 1: go to meet the guy, and I I was meeting
Speaker 1: with him because he was actually a guy knew he
Speaker 1: knew me and my wife from when we were staying
Speaker 1: in this apartment, right, And we used to go to
Speaker 1: that laundry man. And he saw me one day at
Speaker 1: a store outside and let me say, hey, man, a
Speaker 1: long time, don't see And he said, it looks like
Speaker 1: you're doing well and yourself, I said, what you up do?
Speaker 1: He said, I'm a seller shop. Are you interested? You know?
Speaker 1: I see how much you want for it? He told
Speaker 1: me The cost, said would have been sixty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: He said, you know, after you pay for everything, you're
Speaker 1: gonna make about four grand a month. And at that
Speaker 1: time my mind I was such a such a yeah,
Speaker 1: I was in such a heathen mind state that I
Speaker 1: didn't think about business. You know, I didn't think, well,
Speaker 1: that all the costs. If I'm bringing in four thousand,
Speaker 1: I paid for everything a year and a half, your
Speaker 1: money back. But the thing that's yeah, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: a oh, I that's pretty freaking strong. Yeah. So you know,
Speaker 1: me thinking about at the time I was making so
Speaker 1: much money, me and four thousand dollars, I'm not wasting
Speaker 1: my time, And that would have been something that would
Speaker 1: have really set us up for our retirement. Is something
Speaker 1: I could have passed down to our children because I
Speaker 1: would have been had paid for. Right now, they're still
Speaker 1: very busy, still a very busy business. So I think
Speaker 1: about those opportunities I've missed because you know what I
Speaker 1: did invest heavily in and at Cadillac Escalades, Mercedes Beings,
Speaker 1: this um. You know a whole number of vehicles which
Speaker 1: I don't personally have. Jewry I can't find I remember
Speaker 1: the way, can't find no, you know. But you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, This is an expression. We're doing a podcast.
Speaker 1: We're going to do a treasure hunt and steals backyard.
Speaker 1: It would be like the ghost Hunter project, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna do a Treasure Hunter podcast back yard. I didn't
Speaker 1: actually lose those cars. I just got rid of the eventually, right.
Speaker 1: But you know the thing he was Actually I did
Speaker 1: have a car that I let somebody borrow. They had
Speaker 1: that car for two years, and I do but they
Speaker 1: had it for two years because I just didn't care. Man,
Speaker 1: I don't want that ship. It was an expedition, the
Speaker 1: old expedition I had, right, man, take that ship. I
Speaker 1: don't care about it. Because when you're young and you're
Speaker 1: not thinking, it's like you know what they say, you know,
Speaker 1: you was wasting on the young. The whole thing else
Speaker 1: when you're young, you're making money is nothing checked next month.
Speaker 1: I remember one time I went and blew forty dollars dude,
Speaker 1: I want to bost the rims I want, and bought
Speaker 1: me this dumbass big steel chain. It was just all
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. Now it just wasn't worth it. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying I have to say is this, we
Speaker 1: are so not conditioned bro to do the right things.
Speaker 1: And we worry about we worry about bullshit pretty much.
Speaker 1: That that's it. Just it's tough again. Like I said,
Speaker 1: if you believe in oppression and racism, then it makes sense.
Speaker 1: And that's what I tell most the black elite and
Speaker 1: responsible the black elite, like yourself or you know jay
Speaker 1: Z or Snoop or don't got me in the category.
Speaker 1: You are part of the black right. You're still part
Speaker 1: of that one percent, right, And I don't feel like
Speaker 1: ten percent ten percent right now one percent. I just
Speaker 1: played with you. What I'm saying is you can't believe
Speaker 1: in oppression and not understand how it's going to affect
Speaker 1: people and why they make these decisions. That you're ready
Speaker 1: to convince yourself and say racism and oppression doesn't exist anymore,
Speaker 1: then you have to also account for the fallout that's
Speaker 1: gonna be happening. It's like being mad at the people
Speaker 1: in Nagasaki in nineteen six s eight, Like, oh, your
Speaker 1: kids still growing extra toes. It's like, Nick, it was
Speaker 1: a bomb. It was a nuclear bomb dropped, you know
Speaker 1: in this place. And then there's a fallout, right, and
Speaker 1: and it's yes, it's not exactly the same situations as seven, right,
Speaker 1: but then there's still a radiation and a nuclear fallout
Speaker 1: that's happening in the sixties and the seventies and the
Speaker 1: eighties after. So if you believe that type of nuclear
Speaker 1: bomb that you know, slavery and oppression and racism is right,
Speaker 1: all these things that pun your minda when you gotta
Speaker 1: make room for the fallout, for the extra toes and
Speaker 1: the extra fingers and the weird legs and a triple breasts,
Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta, you gotta, you know, really account
Speaker 1: for that. And that's just an important part. But even
Speaker 1: with the conversation we have in now where it's like
Speaker 1: we live in this weird society again where more people
Speaker 1: are punching bags, you know, in America, and you want
Speaker 1: to hear something really interesting and poor people punch on
Speaker 1: poor people. Yeah, you want to hear something that And
Speaker 1: that's a mentality, g because you want to hear something
Speaker 1: really interesting. When I was making that money, my wife
Speaker 1: told me we should save it, and I thought she
Speaker 1: actually got mad at her one day, saved for what
Speaker 1: do this the way you're talking about, Maria. When I
Speaker 1: first when I wanted to go first purchase at home.
Speaker 1: Still when I first wanted to go purchase at home
Speaker 1: eighteen years ago, right, yeah, I wanted to buy this
Speaker 1: eight bedroom house that was inter Mexingla. It was nice.
Speaker 1: It was nice, you know, pulling the backyard, how many
Speaker 1: planning on having just you know what? That was the thing.
Speaker 1: I just wanted it because it looked nice. You know.
Speaker 1: All I could picture was me just showing up to
Speaker 1: people like, this is my this is my larry, this
Speaker 1: is my spot. You know what my wife told me,
Speaker 1: She said, first of all, this two far and can
Speaker 1: we get something a little bit more conservative in case, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I just want in case what you're doing
Speaker 1: right now stops working. I want to still be able
Speaker 1: to maintain the home that we had. So we wound
Speaker 1: up buying the townhouse. And I was mad at her
Speaker 1: for the longest, like, oh, we could have had something bigger.
Speaker 1: You know. Eventually would happen a lot of those friends,
Speaker 1: and that was the time they were giving everybody home loans. Everybody,
Speaker 1: if you had a post she was gonna get a
Speaker 1: loan for a million dollars to go by house. Right yeah,
Speaker 1: So all of my friends, nothing embarrassed, nobody all of
Speaker 1: my friends eventually wound up losing their homes. I was
Speaker 1: the only one to have mine. So I looked at
Speaker 1: my wife, and so from that point only, I always
Speaker 1: listened to my wife in regards to finances because where
Speaker 1: she comes from. My wife is from Mexico, so they're
Speaker 1: used to really being poor there, used to eating beings
Speaker 1: and tortillas every night. So she comes from a certain
Speaker 1: day that she values money. Man, what the hell, you're
Speaker 1: just such a nationalist. That don't mean she from the jail,
Speaker 1: means she from the poor people. I'm know my in laws.
Speaker 1: She come on, I'm not talking about it. What what
Speaker 1: what background they come from? No, I said from the
Speaker 1: background that she comes from. She comes from a poor family.
Speaker 1: She comes from a poor found. I'm talking about my wife.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about nobody else. I don't know what
Speaker 1: nobody else's background is. I'm talking about my spouts. But
Speaker 1: she comes from my background to where they respect money.
Speaker 1: They have a really high respect for money. My wife,
Speaker 1: we were in a wife and she had six thousand
Speaker 1: dollars in her first spending money. When I tell you that,
Speaker 1: it was like pulling a man cold cover to have
Speaker 1: her buy something Hey, they got these playing that, let's
Speaker 1: buy one o those the twenty We don't need to
Speaker 1: get that. We can go to the store and buy
Speaker 1: this and do this. I said, By the time we
Speaker 1: do all that, we could have been you know, we
Speaker 1: could have just drump the thing had been done with it.
Speaker 1: But I think it's how we raised so But but
Speaker 1: it goes into that same fallout of that that that
Speaker 1: oppression atomic bomb. I mean, that's how we see things
Speaker 1: here and and back to the you know, back to
Speaker 1: what many people is talking about, like what do you
Speaker 1: do when the kid takes being poor that way and
Speaker 1: tort you know, And I'm not gonna keep calling him
Speaker 1: a kid because I don't believe eighteen people are kids,
Speaker 1: Like I think modern society makes people kids and ship,
Speaker 1: but you ain't no kid. The older I think I
Speaker 1: think they show I think children today show us they
Speaker 1: are more then in intellectually capable of having a lot
Speaker 1: more responsibilities in the real world, and we allow them
Speaker 1: to squander it off for me on video games and
Speaker 1: social media, ship and bullshit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but but I'm saying so but I think
Speaker 1: that's also the same social conditioning that allows you as
Speaker 1: a parent to treat your your your seventeen and eighteen
Speaker 1: the ninety year old like their children, and they're not.
Speaker 1: We're just we're just keeping them children longer for whatever
Speaker 1: silly reasons. Society is telling us to versus making the
Speaker 1: motherfucker's get jobs and have some responsibilities and things to
Speaker 1: do and not so much time on their hand to
Speaker 1: sit on the phone and find people to compare themselves too.
Speaker 1: There's a whole massive intellectual movement defining the like quote
Speaker 1: unquote like impact of society by the socialized prolonged adolescents,
Speaker 1: you know, theory so to speak. Yeah, a lot. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of think tanks that are all what's the key,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean conversations about a kid? Because I
Speaker 1: think children are I think what we call children are
Speaker 1: showing you when they finally start being like they think
Speaker 1: they can make their own decision, you need a fucking job. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's a slighting scale. It's like, what I expecting
Speaker 1: nineteen year old to have a really sound and astute
Speaker 1: understanding of the ramifications of spending money versus investing money
Speaker 1: in passive income? No, O, what I expect a nineteen
Speaker 1: year old to understand the difference between playing a video
Speaker 1: game and shooting real human beings at the store. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think that's reasonable, But after nine years, I think
Speaker 1: that's not even I think that's so rare in the
Speaker 1: grand scale of people doing all these things or mass
Speaker 1: shootings confusion, I think it's not impossible. There are some
Speaker 1: really retarding for the fucking pete. That's that's that's that's
Speaker 1: a that's because they got rad That's not the grand
Speaker 1: scale of the conversation. So I'm not a um. But
Speaker 1: what I am saying is, you know, um, because this
Speaker 1: person his family said the excuse was, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: poor and people tormented me and this that and the
Speaker 1: third is that really is that really? Like? What do like,
Speaker 1: what would a psychologists tell a poor person if we're
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna relate that to mental health? Like right,
Speaker 1: people t in him because he was poor or blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, if that's really a mental health issue. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying the similar is that what what would a
Speaker 1: psychologists tell a poor person how to deal with being poor? Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, being poor is just a constructing itself,
Speaker 1: because you don't know you poor until you see some
Speaker 1: nicer ship like I didn't know I was going that's
Speaker 1: my but I feel like that, like I said, I
Speaker 1: was talking about I was talking to women about that before,
Speaker 1: where I was explaining to them, like some girl telling
Speaker 1: me she got, you know, a bood job because she
Speaker 1: felt like her titties was you know, lopsided or one
Speaker 1: was bigger than other. And I'm like, well, who titties
Speaker 1: were you comparing them to? Like that's the problem to me.
Speaker 1: They're not being honest, like everything through the embarrassing and
Speaker 1: what the hardest thing for human beings to do is
Speaker 1: get out of the habit of comparing. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: don't acknowledge human beings, right, I acknowledge them, but I
Speaker 1: don't compare them like you mean. It's like, as much
Speaker 1: as we're that basic social Darwinism, I mean, like that's
Speaker 1: basic social Darwinist if the principle behind evolutionist comparing, that's
Speaker 1: a very tall order, you know, I mean, and I
Speaker 1: don't mean just in fucking humans, I mean in any
Speaker 1: species that evolves, which is all of them. Comparing is
Speaker 1: what it is. But you know what it is. At first,
Speaker 1: I want to say this, she left see it's hard. See,
Speaker 1: when you don't have children, you're free of that fund,
Speaker 1: that that fund that I hate. I don't hate it,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but I wish I couldn't give
Speaker 1: a funk. Sometimes I wish I could just be like
Speaker 1: you on your own, but just go bother you. You
Speaker 1: go think about it. It's like sometimes I think, like
Speaker 1: when my kids they do something right, and I want
Speaker 1: to sit back and just sometimes I've learned as a
Speaker 1: parent as I got older, to let them go through it,
Speaker 1: because when you come to somebody's rescue all the time,
Speaker 1: you're really not doing them no favors. Well, but this
Speaker 1: is the thing I'm not saying a parent like those
Speaker 1: parents of that weird old dude that shot the elementary kids,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the decision is to abandon them. But
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if you're old enough to realize you're poor,
Speaker 1: you're old enough to get a job. Yeah, for real,
Speaker 1: for real, don't you realize you if you realize that
Speaker 1: you're old enough to sell newspapers, you owe enough to
Speaker 1: do a thousand things. Now, I'm not saying I'm be upset.
Speaker 1: You know all my children, right, everyone me coming from
Speaker 1: your kids all your kids could have jobs at thirteen.
Speaker 1: I just jump right off real. I mean, all my
Speaker 1: kids hustle. Maria, here you are coming in one second.
Speaker 1: The thing is what my keys. Du Jasmine does nails,
Speaker 1: my daughter does nils. Christopher clean shoes. That was his thing.
Speaker 1: I told them all. I preached entrepreneurialism to my kids, right,
Speaker 1: I said, find something that you like doing, that you're
Speaker 1: good at, and make money like that. I never preached
Speaker 1: necessarily job thing what I told them, And when I'm saying,
Speaker 1: you know, but listen what I'm saying, get a job
Speaker 1: until you could do what you want that fine. He's
Speaker 1: been with the fire department, he's been doing this thing
Speaker 1: like that. And all your kids have their own successes
Speaker 1: and success stories. We ain't got to go through them individually.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I think even in these conversations where
Speaker 1: we're talking about, you know, the type of mind and
Speaker 1: social the type of mind and how society breeds mass shooters,
Speaker 1: I think it's because there's some space right where somebody
Speaker 1: was allowed to just complain exactly now, whether they complained
Speaker 1: out loud, I don't always think the solution is complaining
Speaker 1: to a therapist. I think, Yeah, I think there's a
Speaker 1: space where it's like, you know, like when you come
Speaker 1: from our community and you realize you poor, you know
Speaker 1: what you do still you get a sack exactly, and
Speaker 1: you can get some money. That's that's whatever the most
Speaker 1: convenient way to not to not not have money, you
Speaker 1: find a way to make sure you have money. So
Speaker 1: again that's the point I'm making it. It's like, um,
Speaker 1: just just trying to figure out where we're going with
Speaker 1: all of these mass shootings in the rough, comparisons and
Speaker 1: and and and the value in you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's crazy how we looked it all around into you know,
Speaker 1: these conversations of economics, because they do end up here. Somehow,
Speaker 1: it always been up here, you know. I mean, if
Speaker 1: it's a white man shoot back to me, maybe he
Speaker 1: feels like Nika stole their jobs. Like it's always kind
Speaker 1: of the same space or where you said at you know,
Speaker 1: to some degree. I mean every now and you've got
Speaker 1: the Vegas dude, who just it was just Saturday. I
Speaker 1: don't think for some people there's no round reasons. Some
Speaker 1: people are just looking And that's what I was telling
Speaker 1: right to believe as a society. I think it's right
Speaker 1: to really say, like, Okay, I want to do something,
Speaker 1: but to believe there's always something you can do, you know,
Speaker 1: might be unrealistic. Yeah, and that's a great point that
Speaker 1: defines the entire narrative. I mean, really, people are so
Speaker 1: uncomfortable with the idea that they might not be able
Speaker 1: to have control over an outcome that could be adverted
Speaker 1: to them, that they spazz out just to the thought
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Speaker 1: of the USA and produced by my homeboy A King
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