WEBVTT - Conversations About Mass Shootings 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.360 Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.480 Sellers podcast with your host now funk that with your 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:17.480 low glasses, Malone. Whatever he felt like bothered him, right, 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.880 instead of being like, we have this thing in society 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.239 where it's like, Okay, well you know she's a slut, 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:27.480 you don't have to shame her or blah blah, it's like, well, 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:31.000 if you don't want to be shamed for being a slut, 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.479 or if you don't want to shame for, you know, 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.680 be shamed for not being poor, right, that's when you 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.360 have to dedicate all energies to not being outside of that, 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.920 you know, you just playing yourself. Like my sister is 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:47.680 my older sister Sean till my older sister Joanna. They 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:49.680 had a big problem with me being a gang banker, 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.199 you know what I mean. And I always felt like 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.240 they would tell their kids kind of deal with me 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:58.160 in a certain way because I was a crypt You know, 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.480 I am a crypt, so you know what I mean. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.400 I thought they may be in their minds that define me. 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.839 But if I never got an attitude with them fitting 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:08.960 like that, whatever they thought of it was what it 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.080 was versus me, and I never decided I was gonna 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.759 not be it because of what they thought. If they 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:18.759 can crypt shame me feel me being a fucking crypt. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.880 There's a lack of consensus on how to define a 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:29.120 mass shooting. Most terms define a minimum of three or 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:33.160 four victims of gun violence, not including the shooter, in 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:36.920 a short period of time, although in Australia study from 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:41.640 two thousand six prescribes a minimum of five and an 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:45.560 added requirement that the victims actually die as opposed to 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:52.640 being shot injured but not necessarily killed. That's how defining 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:57.600 a mass shooter and start up Pete that ship troubling 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:01.960 to me, right, because at that point you would have 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.560 to cover any military violence when they shoot up something 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:10.680 in the town. That means you're not report knows. Well, 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.200 those are a little bit different because unless it's a 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.120 war crime, it's not really a crime, you know what 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.840 I'm saying. But that's my thing, Like, it's not just 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:25.120 a crime. Like I think consensus as an as as 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:29.600 a public, we all agree a mass shooting usually requires 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:35.440 innocent victims to some degree. Yeah, Like hypothetically, let's say 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:39.160 there are a lot of great examples of mass like 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.800 police shooting is usually there's only like one or two. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.400 Actually like to say, like if the Waco thing, it 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:49.760 wasn't like what however they botched and burned everybody up. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.920 But if it was like twenty criminals hold up into 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:58.359 some sort of up um like a bunker, and d 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.400 FBI or whatever the hell law enforcement apparatus went in 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.440 and cleared them out and they all died. Like, I 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.560 don't know if I would consider that a mass shooting, 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:12.480 because you could, I guess, But that's how I feel 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:17.359 about gang violence. When two gangs are beefing, you feel 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.519 me and somebody when two gangs are at war, When 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.799 two communities are at war, right, and they having their 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:27.160 issues and they're setting it, they settling it primitively as 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.400 poor people, and you know, as they do right and 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:36.040 literally having their issues, and you know, this community goes 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.720 over here and shoots five of those guys, I wouldn't 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.000 like to consider that a mass shooting. I think there's 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:47.240 a very pivotal adjective that could be added to that 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:57.240 term mass shooting. Random, Like if if there's a beef 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:01.440 between gang and gang B and it's a calculated hit, 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:11.760 even if it knocks out twenty, it's not random. Yeah, Um, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.320 But I think I think when they make it this 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:21.839 open it they're using, it becomes conversation of things that 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:28.159 are not related to sway a whole another political angle. Now, 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.479 I'm not saying people in the community are not victims 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:36.440 of gun violence, but all gun violence, again is not 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:41.160 the equivalent of mats shootings. Like what's going on between 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:46.960 the sixties and families is nothing like what happened in Texas, 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.920 you know a week or two ago, you know what 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:52.400 I'm saying, Where that dude went to that elementary school 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:56.760 and you know what that the eight year old man 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:02.599 went to the elementary school and shot elementary gears. Yeah. Yeah, 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:06.200 I think the main reason why what we see here 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:13.520 with the heightened focus of it, is the random element. Obviously, 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:18.320 the majority of the corporate media apparatus is left leaning 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.960 and is big, big time invested on on gun control legislation. 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:29.680 If you know where deliberate gun violence happens, you can 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:31.480 avoid it, so it's not that big a deal. You 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:34.680 just don't go there. If it's randomized, now all of 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:39.400 a sudden, you know it involves any and everybody, meaning 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.880 that gray area voter that would be possibly an independent 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:45.760 type person, and you can say Okay, well, now is 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.760 our opportunity. People are you know, are hysterical and whipped 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.640 up in the moment to pass some massive sweeping a 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.520 lot that on a sober mind, most people wouldn't otherwise 0:05:54.520 --> 0:06:03.880 go for mm hm no ceilings, glasses low a man. 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:10.440 Peter Boss in the spot, my manager and podcaster extraordinary 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.880 uh big still should be joining us in a second. 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:20.120 I agree, And you know, as far as when we're 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:24.400 saying that, that's why I don't like it, because it 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.120 feels like it's a political ploy to connected to this 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:31.320 random acts of violence. Like I've had this conversation with 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:34.640 people that you know when people say senseless violence when 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.600 they're talking about communities going to war, and it's like, 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.039 I think that's different because you can't make sense out 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.880 of it. By that same standard, we could say every war, 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:49.080 the war between Ukraine and Russia is senseless violence. But 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:54.479 somebody or to two people or whatever, it may make sense. Now, 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.240 don't get me wrong, because by that same standards you 0:06:57.279 --> 0:07:01.280 can say tell that little the little weirdo, the little 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:06.279 weirdod man in texts that may says to him. Sure. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.920 I think a lot of that kind of centers around 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:15.760 the the idea that the conversation I'll be I'm gonna 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:21.960 use very frank language on this. The rest of the 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:30.840 reason why the large you know, aggregate numbers of urban 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:36.440 black community crime statistics get lumped into this is because 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:42.080 the push to try to take these randomized acts, which 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:47.920 they are largely random, he has to do with gun control. 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.800 So so an opposition viewpoint to that says, oh, well, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.000 if you look at aggregate gun violence, most of it's 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:57.560 done by guns that are already illegal, so and and 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.280 and then that muddies the conversation and the assess none 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.000 in the whole thing. It brings people into it, and 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:05.360 it starts to instead of trying to define the gun, 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:07.840 now you're defining the crime and you're defining the motive 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:12.480 or defining the context everything that everything gets very blurry, 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:16.400 everything with laying accountability on the actual perpetrator. So you 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:21.280 start talking about the instruments and everything goes versus the that. Um, 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:25.600 I know we've had a conversation about gun control. Yeah, um, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.200 but I thought about this, Where would you stand right 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:32.400 if there was a complete agreement right to some level 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:36.400 of the masses, right, not the votes. But they say, hey, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.680 we want there to be no more guns in America, 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:45.960 not the police, not anybody outside the military, you know, 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:49.520 fighting off in wars. How would you feel about turning 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.720 over your weapons at that point? I would laugh my 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.679 ass off. I would walk outside with a hammer and 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.679 I would break my car window and take a self 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.480 on picture of my broken window and say, my gun 0:08:57.600 --> 0:08:59.120 was in the car, was gonna go turn it? That's 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:04.040 someone stole it? And it would be like apartment What 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.880 is it that you think people feel the need of 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.360 their gun for, Let's say, if nobody had a gun, 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.040 Is it because you think somebody's always going to have 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:17.240 a gun. It's part of that. It's part principle, it's 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.360 part so it's such a number of factors. I mean, 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.520 I think if you look at the United States over 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.320 the last two years, and you look at Australia over 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.200 the last two years, you weren't allowed to go outside 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.080 at night in Australia for like a year and a half. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.959 I don't think you're gonna be able to really do 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:36.160 that so much in the States, you know, and like 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.640 to be honest, the reason is we saw the cowardice 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:47.840 of the you know, deployed law enforcement in this setting 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:52.600 with one guy right just last week. If if you 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.400 had a federal man, no one in the country is 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:00.640 allowed to go anywhere or do anything for the rest 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.600 of this year and the rest of next year because 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:08.680 of COVID, and then you sent out, you know, the 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:11.240 dot dot dot county Sheriff's to go and force it 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.840 against the really piste off people with real guns and 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.560 real numbers. They're not gonna go over there and die 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.240 for that. They'd punk out and the whole thing would unravel. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.920 So what do you think about countries like Japan where 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.600 guns are pretty much impossible to to have in the 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:35.400 police don't carry guns. Japan is a unique element. Um. 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.920 It is an island. It does have a you know 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:43.240 that there are certain gifts and takes culturally between the 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.080 US and and between Japan. UM. I would rather live 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.400 in an environment where I might be a little bit 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.560 at risk than live in what Shanghai is presently, um, 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.760 where people are literally jumping out of buildings because of 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.079 starving death. They have been allowed to go outside of 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:02.360 right shank as in China. But I'm miss saying as 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.480 far as being able to provide some sort of defined 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:11.480 second and pushed back over tyranny. You know. Additionally, we 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.839 are a partially landlocked country with landlocked borders. There are 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:19.280 I mean I read a study. There was a very 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.720 good study. The methodology was sound, so that there was 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.080 approximately two thousand illegal guns a day that come up 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.400 to the southern border, and this was during the Trum administration, 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:32.520 which the southern border was tighter. That probably means it's 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.600 close to a million illegal guns that enter the United 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:40.400 States per year. That's a lot. So and that's with 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:44.040 no demand. If if if there were, if guns were 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.559 really illegal, illegal like that, then the demand would spike, 0:11:46.679 --> 0:11:49.840 so the desire to fill that demand and price would 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.920 spike as well. You see, more than that, it's we 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.800 can't keep illegal anything out of this country. We can't 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.400 keep illegal drugs out of this country. We can't keep 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.240 illegal Louis Vattan phony and bags out of this country. 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:06.400 We can't keep illegal farm workers and janitors at this country. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.160 I mean, like, we can't keep anything out. So the 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.800 idea that we're gonna suddenly magically snap a finger and 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:17.200 keep guns out dumb and random mass shooters by and large, 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:22.360 that ends three ways, life in prison, death in prison, 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.440 or death on the scene. If those three things, don't 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:29.520 attern you what a year or two in jail. Oh 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:31.920 I'm down to get sprayed up by the cops and 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.040 die here and now. But don't give me those eighteen 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:38.079 months for the gun charge. Said nobody ever much crime? 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:43.520 Do you think? So, Lee? And we're on the you know, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:50.040 on the you know we're we're we're the day after 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.640 of all of the school shootings. Do you really have 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:56.880 a solution? Do you have a solution that you feel 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:02.240 is valuable? I think best of viable solution is probably 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:09.200 like for schools, is you know the security standards at schools. 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.920 You know, I've heard some catch phrase is not not 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.840 big on hashtag catch phrases where it's like we protect 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.800 our banks more than to protect our schools. Well that's 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.880 actually true. Um. A guy that our follow. His name 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:26.400 is Adam Calhoun. He's a rapper, the white guy, uh 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.320 from the South somewhere. He was so no relation to 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.880 cool Breeze and those calvinis no, no, no, no, no, 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:39.120 this is super super American super nationalists. What I'm saying, um, dope, 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:43.320 don't tie it to them. See I like him a lot. Um. 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.280 But he had a point. He was saying like we 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.760 protect our banks and everything else with men with guns, 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:54.920 but not our schools. M hm. And I just I 0:13:55.000 --> 0:14:01.480 think I get what he's saying. Um, I don't know, 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.920 you know, morally, I guess, okay, So what it is 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:06.760 is morally I want to feel like we should keep 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.079 kids away from the concept of guns and so forth 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.480 and so on. But then again, you know, if they're 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.600 playing video games and certain things where guns are available. 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.520 You know, if your kids go to the bank with 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.960 their parents, if your kids go to the airport, if 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:28.840 your kids go through any government building anywhere ever, they're 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:32.760 gonna see security guns. It's not crazy. If the police, 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.560 if the if your kid sees a policemen passed by, 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:42.280 that's a an authorized gentleman with the gun who's supposed 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:50.920 to be, you know, fulfilling or protecting the peace. I mean, like, like, 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:54.080 my mom's a vice principle in elementary school, so she 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.560 has to coordinate the whole Every year, they have to 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:00.200 train all the teachers for like the way we we 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.680 would do used to earthquake drills members kids. They have 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.240 now mass shooting tutorials. But the police show up and 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:11.960 they tell the teachers, well, there's two things you can 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.600 do for a mass shooting. You can lock the doors 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:17.240 and push your desk against the door, or you can 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.680 run out into the grass. It's like, what are you 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:24.960 shooting me? And that's all that they have available for 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.520 their ideas, and that's the police department showing up and 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:32.680 telling them that what's crazy is I was reading about 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:38.880 mass shootings and in America, one of the oldest mass shootings, 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:47.600 right excuse me. A school shooting was November twelve, forty Charttesville, Virginia. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.600 Charles Philist for a long time with Day, a law 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:56.040 professor at the University of Virginia, was shot by students 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:02.280 Joseph Simmons and died three days later. Wow in the forties, 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:08.680 eighteen forty, eighteen fifty, it was a school shooting in Louisville, Kentucky. 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:14.280 In eighteen fifty six, it was a school shooting at 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:19.440 eighteen fifty six in Florence, Alabama. M There was a 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.760 school shooting in Baltimore, Maryland. In the eighteen fifty eight 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.680 h There was a school shooting in eighteen sixty and 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:33.040 Ty County, Kentucky eighteen sixty four. At Ashland County, Ohio. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.240 In eighteen sixty seven right here in California, a town 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.320 called nights Ferry that must have been the only school here. 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:45.320 They had one school and got shot up. Man, when 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.480 you just think about and and that's what worthyes me 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.160 right is I hear a lot of people talking about 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:57.160 gun control, and California and New York have the strictest 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.400 laws in all of the states. I'm not sure this 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.000 is true, but I know they have really stratched away 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:09.600 up there. There's there're slight yeah, Maryland's d C. Cook County, 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.560 Illinois play you know, there's some spots that are comfortable, 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:16.480 but they're very high I re used. In the last 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:18.920 ninety days, there were scooled. There were mass shootings in 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:24.320 both places. Yep. And I was talking to my home girl, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.280 Shay that I grew up with, crossing from mom house 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:30.520 in Comfon, and she was saying it was a band 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.639 on assault rifles. Oh, you know, we need to ban 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:36.480 assault rifles. Like, well, it's not even a thing. I 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:38.840 don't think you really need a salt rifles. She like, well, 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:41.560 the majority of the shootings happening with the salt rifles. 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:43.760 And I explained to her, I was like, well, the 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.280 shooting in New York was done with a block seventeam 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:50.600 a couple of old Well. Also, I think there was 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.040 a handgun used in the subway shooting in New York 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.560 as well. There were two in the state of New 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.000 York recently. Yeah, yeah, there was. Oh yeah the one 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.600 the racers shooting where the dude was a buffalo and 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.560 he not gott all the those people. Yeah, yeah, that's tough, man, 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.680 what side side question like that? Okay, if the two 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:15.640 things in New York was, and I'm asking, I'm not surmising, 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.480 was the was the guy who the black dude like 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:21.159 he might have been career I don't know if he 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.280 was Africa, he was just American who shot up the subway. 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.240 He had some sort of weird cause. Was he like 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.240 some sort of like semi racist black nationalist kind of 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.720 guy or was he just like a weirdough you know, 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:36.160 I don't I don't know what is he he has. 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.240 I'm kind of manifest of he was talking about homeless 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:42.760 people in America. Okay, some stuff I don't know. I 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:44.600 didn't have a lot of tens. It would have been interesting. 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:49.680 At the same state had dueling race driven mass shootings 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:54.000 in the same month. Oh, I could imagine a black 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.280 person shoot white people because a man, Oh my god, 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:01.960 that boyfucker would make it out of nothing. Uh I 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:08.480 turned himself into McDonald's at me all bad um. I 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.240 was telling Sherry that and she what was weird is 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.200 she was calling a fake shooting. She's like, that's a 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.480 fake mass shooting. I'm like the one where the black 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:18.080 dude was shooting the people on the train states. I'm like, shared, 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.720 motherfucker's actually got shot. I don't think it's actually cool 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.720 to call that a fake shooting. What would be Why 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:31.560 would it be fake? Like the gun fired and people 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.720 were hit. I don't know what else he needed. I 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.840 was like, motherfucker's got shot. What are you talking about? 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:44.080 Like Dick and the motherfucker called it a fake mash 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:48.800 shooting through my fucking side. What a shoot? Joe, stupid 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.600 as you call my fake That's like calling the third 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:54.879 plane that went down on nine level in the field 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:59.119 it was a fake plane crash or something. So you 0:19:59.280 --> 0:20:03.480 think the solution his arm guards at the school something 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:05.600 like that. You have to go somewhere in that direction. 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:10.440 I mean, all this other crap is comedic to me. 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.440 I mean, like to try to go after the the 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:16.600 actor when you're when when you're that dedicated, when you're like, 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.800 I'm whatever it is that torments you to that degree. 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.440 If you're I am ready to die for this here 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:26.880 and now dedicated, it doesn't matter. You know, it doesn't matter. 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.440 You can't stop that because what are you gonna threaten 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:33.359 the person with. They've laughed off all the threats because 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.480 they said, the greatest thing you can give somebody is 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.440 I'm gonna kill you right now. If you if they've 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:44.560 already totally blown that off, then you have nothing m hm. 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:49.399 So you can't take it at that perspective. Additionally, like this, 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:53.040 oh we're gonna do mental health background checks? How many 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.000 people in this country have mental health problems that are 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.879 not on paper. I literally was talking to my boys 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:03.399 about that, and my note, I see a director, um 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:08.480 that I really funk with two Dion, Um, what's dion 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:12.840 last name? Because hold on, I'm gonna tell you what 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:18.560 dion last name is? Like this dude the shooter in Texas, 0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.960 for example, he had no cript. Yeah, I'm sorry. His 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:26.520 name is uh Deon Taylor, super dope brother direct films. 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.399 And he was saying that he was talking about like 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:33.840 mental checks, and I'm like, dog my boy, Jay you 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.440 and Manny was from Long Beach. They was like mental checks, 0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:38.880 and I'm like, bro, they're going to discriminate. And guess 0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:42.440 who're not gonna get it anytime you allow America to discriminate. 0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:44.480 For sure, black people is for sure not gonna be 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:48.640 getting ship. Yeah, it's gonna be black people in Republicans. Yeah, drip, 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.440 that's also a bit. For sure, Nick is not getting shipped. 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:55.800 So how like, how do you just define that anyway? 0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:59.719 Like so what so I after then go that Now 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:03.040 you're opening the same conversation as to what my biggest 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:07.080 beef with criminal justices, And that's the subjectivity of individual 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:11.240 judges and individual jurisdictions. I'm gonna go to Dr A 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:14.720 and he's gonna say I'm crazy. And Joe Blow is 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:19.280 gonna go to Dr B. He's gonna say his funky, 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:21.960 weirdoh ass is perfectly fine, and he's gonna get a 0:22:22.000 --> 0:22:24.320 gun and I'm not. And I'm gonna go this is 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:29.600 a miscarriage of the law. You can't it's asinine and 0:22:29.760 --> 0:22:31.600 on all. All I'm gonna do is be like to 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:35.200 give me a goddamn burner. Than fuck it, he's fictitious. 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:38.960 The doctor doesn't exist. I can't threaten someone that didn't exist. 0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.000 I just think it's funny we live in a state 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.760 or we live in a country, and it freess me 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:50.560 out with people from the community where will like will 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:58.159 acknowledge racism and oppression, everything else, all the bigotry, and 0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:04.000 we still will create eight some kind of support for 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.720 people that want to make decisions for us that historically 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.760 have shown that they are not in our favorite That 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:14.800 is my biggest point of intellectual conflict with Black America. 0:23:15.160 --> 0:23:18.680 So it's like my favorite thing about black and not 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.520 my favorite thing, but like a thing that I respect 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:25.000 a ton about like Black America in general, is the 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:29.440 skepticism towards government and the critical thought. That's like the 0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.680 knee jerk reaction is critical thought. I think that's fantastic. 0:23:33.640 --> 0:23:38.159 But those those very same people will vote for expansive 0:23:38.480 --> 0:23:41.880 government oversight in the very same breath. And it's there's 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:46.639 like a a conflict where those two things don't run parallel. 0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:49.920 I it doesn't make sense to me. And and this 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:57.639 is a great example because again you know, that's probably 0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:01.679 my biggest problem. And and and like you'll see people 0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:04.640 pressing the line like all this government is racism. They'll 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.600 show you judges, you know, making funked up verdicts for 0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.720 people are the same crime. You know, you know, obviously 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.320 a bit of context, but you could just see in 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:19.480 certain places where obviously this government is not necessarily in 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:23.399 our favor, you know, and then they'll be mad at 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.639 a person like Ted Crews who's like, you're not, like 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:31.680 we're gonna keep these guns. And it's like it's almost weird, 0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:36.000 like like it blows me away where it's it's do 0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:40.200 you not think this government is an oppressive, racive regime? 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:42.760 Do you not think you know these people are not? 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:47.680 Or are you just kind of shrink the cancer, shrink 0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:52.800 the cancer, or are you just convinced that is that 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:56.400 Democrats are friendly? And then it's just like it's almost 0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:01.280 it's so weird because yeah, I don't think you nailed it. 0:25:02.400 --> 0:25:05.040 I don't know, man, that ship folks with me. And 0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:08.080 when I see this certain situation, you know, like like 0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:12.320 a school shooting right where motherfucker's is getting shot like kids, 0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:17.240 and like we're arguing about gun control, and I'm like, 0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:19.960 you know, I said, somebody said, who's to blame? And 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.760 I'm like, the asshole that went did it? Oh, you know, 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:26.000 people got mental problems. And I'm like, yeah, but that's 0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:27.880 still an asshole that one did that. Like you could 0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:30.440 have went and did that ship to the bullies that 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.280 was bullying you, the people that called you poor, and 0:25:33.359 --> 0:25:35.359 that would have been sucked up. But at least to 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.480 some degree, you know, motherfucker's back. Well that was your bully, 0:25:38.760 --> 0:25:40.280 you know what I mean? That's the question over that. 0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:43.959 That's That's what it is. How many fruit loops are 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:48.840 there a skitter o downtown, like fifty thousand, hundred thousand. 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.240 It's like the number of down there is crazy, maybe 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.400 a couple hundred years. It's a ton of How many 0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:59.480 mass shootings are there down there? None? And I'm not 0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.119