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Speaker 2: this is an alpha here, Oh, Heather, your top three

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Speaker 2: The It's it's an especially vibrant year.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Heather for your continued support. You've

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Speaker 1: heard me draw the comparison to Trader Joe's Sandwiches before,

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Speaker 1: Well. I include Utah and Florida in there for a

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Speaker 1: Napier starting out week one for his new team, Let's

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Speaker 2: So just the visual of that game, just the raining

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Speaker 2: I don't know if was he one of the best

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Speaker 2: So if he goes into Florida and looks incredible, there's

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Speaker 2: but there's only twelve games. This is the regular season.

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Speaker 2: This is not an insignificant percentage of a team's game,

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Speaker 2: do on defense, losing Desmond Ritter, Right, Arkansas should win

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Speaker 2: that game. It's at Arkansas, I believe. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati is at Arkansas September third, and so this is Look,

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Speaker 2: it's not a referendum on Arkansas's ascent under Sam Pittman.

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Speaker 2: But if Arkansas is able to beat a team as

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Speaker 2: I absolutely think it's telling because they kind of should

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Speaker 1: See, I just don't think Cincinnati is gonna be that good.

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Speaker 1: They'll be fine, They'll be fine. But on the heat,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't Arkansas win this game if they are good? Yes? Absolutely, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well to that game. I have so many questions about

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Speaker 1: Florida State got off to a horrible start. I went

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Speaker 1: It's I think Brian Kelly teams generally get up for

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Speaker 2: And obviously Brian Kelly already getting his mail forwarded to

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Speaker 1: We keep waiting for Kay McNamara to screw up in

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Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. Kate McNamara took him to

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Speaker 1: have been a big proponent of Mississippi State these last

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Speaker 1: couple of years. I feel like you are at with

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Speaker 1: Mississippi State where I was for a long time before

434
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Speaker 1: I saw the light with TCU. Yeah, you are hopelessly

435
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Speaker 1: devoted to this Bulldogs team in a sense, maybe not

436
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Speaker 1: to the same level they've just they've fielded so many

437
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Speaker 1: interesting players on both sides of the ball, whether it's

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Speaker 1: you know, NFL draft level talent or just like the

439
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Speaker 1: freak kJ Costello singular game against LSU, just weird things

440
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Speaker 1: going back to like the Chris Ralph era pre dak,

441
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Speaker 1: like there's just something that has been perennially entertaining about

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Speaker 1: Mississippi State, and then bringing Mike Leach in with that

443
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Speaker 1: unique type offense, and then the Zach Arnette three three five, like,

444
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Speaker 1: they're just there are tantalizingly interesting things about me. They

445
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Speaker 1: are interested. They are interesting, and so I need you,

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Speaker 1: as the resident Mississippi State apologists, which is probably the

447
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Speaker 1: wrong way to characterize, but whatever, never even been to

448
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Speaker 1: Stark Vegas. I need you to talk to me about this.

449
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Speaker 1: I need you to tell me how you feel about

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Speaker 1: this question from Andrew. I am not as bullish on

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Speaker 1: Mississippi State. I also have not studied them and done

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Speaker 1: any of the preview work. I do believe they'll be better,

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Speaker 1: and I do believe what he's saying about year three

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Speaker 1: potentially a jump. I can't see past the schedule, so right,

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Speaker 1: help me see the light here? What am I missing

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Speaker 1: him about Mississippi State?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so there are really interesting things about Mississippi State.

458
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Speaker 2: They lost their number one receiver last year. I'm not

459
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Speaker 2: sure if he got drafted. I think it's Mikai Poke,

460
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Speaker 2: but Jayden Wally's back, Will Rodgers back. They've got two

461
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Speaker 2: good running backs, and I think it's Equevius Marks and

462
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Speaker 2: Dylan Johnson. They allowed too many big plays through the

463
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Speaker 2: air last year, but that three three five. I like

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Speaker 2: Zach Arnett, he got a lot of interest from other

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Speaker 2: teams looking for new defensive coordinators. The big thing to

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Speaker 2: me with Mississippi State is one in game coaching. The

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Speaker 2: way they lost the Arkansas game, the way they just

468
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Speaker 2: fell behind right away to Ole Miss, and the Egg Bowl,

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Speaker 2: the way that they blew the lead. I think they

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Speaker 2: went up or they excuse me, they were down quickly

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Speaker 2: to LSU, like twenty one to three, and then dominated

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Speaker 2: but came up just short. I think they made it

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Speaker 2: a three point game with two minutes left or something.

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Speaker 2: So it's just like the weird disappearing acts, whether up

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Speaker 2: in a game or whether down in a game, that

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Speaker 2: troubles me. One of the reasons for that, to me

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Speaker 2: is they were a terrible special teams team, especially kicking

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Speaker 2: and punting. The free artage was absurd from Mississippi State.

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Speaker 2: So to me, it's especially against the schedule this tough.

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Speaker 2: They need to be better in preventing explosive plays and

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Speaker 2: generating them. They were actually a pretty decent running team

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Speaker 2: last year. And the Mike Leech teams that have been

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Speaker 2: especially successful have gotten after the passer, which they were

484
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Speaker 2: only okay at last year. And you go back to

485
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Speaker 2: Hercules Matafa, if you remember at Washington State, the like undersized,

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Speaker 2: very quick defensive tackle, very disruptive. Finding guys like that

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Speaker 2: in a very confusing and a good way system, and

488
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Speaker 2: then finding a receiver who will pop and scare teams downfield.

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Speaker 2: And you go back to Michael Crabtree at Texas Tech,

490
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Speaker 2: who is one of the all time great college football receivers,

491
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Speaker 2: of course, but it's finding and developing that guy to

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Speaker 2: scare defenses away from sitting in that shallow zone. And that,

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Speaker 2: to me is the difference against the look the schedule.

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Speaker 2: You went through the schedule, I can look at it

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Speaker 2: right now. All of the teams that seem scary on

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Speaker 2: Mississippi State's schedule pretty much out side of you know,

497
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Speaker 2: going to Tuscaloosa, they're questions about, right, it's Arkansas taking

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Speaker 2: the next step, it's Texas A and m finding a

499
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Speaker 2: new quarterback. It's what the hell lsu is is auburn

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Speaker 2: a mess is Georgia. I mean, Georgia is gonna be tough,

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Speaker 2: but you know, is Georgia somewhere near where they were

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Speaker 2: last year? What does Kentucky look like without Liam Cohen

503
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Speaker 2: like Ole miss And what do they look like without

504
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Speaker 2: Mount Matt carral Like? There are questions so that Mississippi

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Speaker 2: State could go nine and three. To me, though, it's

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Speaker 2: the in game coaching, and it's the ability to generate

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Speaker 2: and prevent explosive plays because the talent is there. Especially

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Speaker 2: on offense. They were very good in preventing havoc plays

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Speaker 2: and preventing, you know, a dangerous pass rush. They protected

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Speaker 2: Will Rogers. For the most part, it's just finding ways

511
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Speaker 2: to challenge teams downfield more and trusting running backs. That

512
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Speaker 2: was the other thing with Washington State teams that succeeded.

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Speaker 2: It was run the ball a little more, teams a

514
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Speaker 2: little more honest because they're sitting back in these zones

515
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Speaker 2: because that's how you play these air raid teams. There

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Speaker 2: are lanes to be opened, especially with where Missisippi st

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Speaker 2: its offensive line has ascended to. So that's what I'm

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Speaker 2: looking for with Mississippi state, because there is promise there

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Speaker 2: given the experience that's back.

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Speaker 1: Peyton wants to know what would the perception be of

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Speaker 1: Scott Frost if you want eight or more games this season? Now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Scott Frost questions are a diamond dozen. There are millions

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Speaker 1: Scott Frost questions. They started the second he arrived in Lincoln,

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Speaker 1: but especially so as we go into twenty twenty two. Especially,

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Speaker 1: So here is why I find this question so damn interesting. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you look in Nebraska's schedule, it's pretty perfect. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty perfect. It was awful last year, awful last year,

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Speaker 1: all right, and I'm not saying there are no land mines,

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Speaker 1: but it's pretty perfect all things considered. Here is why

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Speaker 1: this is so interesting to me. If you look at

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Speaker 1: this schedule, there are four teams on this schedule that

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Speaker 1: I think you look at you say to yourself, and

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Speaker 1: you say, ah, that should be a loss. Should be

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Speaker 1: a loss. I'm referring to Oklahoma, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa

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Speaker 1: should be losses. Okay, based on where I think the

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Speaker 1: other team should be, those should be losses. There is

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Speaker 1: a far narrower band of games in there. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about teams like Minnesota. I'm talking about teams like Perdue

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Speaker 1: at Purdue. Yeah, I'm talking to maybe even Illinois. Who

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Speaker 1: knows where you say? Okay, if things really go south

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Speaker 1: the way they did a year ago, you could envision

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Speaker 1: a scenario in which Nebraska loses that game by two points,

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Speaker 1: a missfield goal, something like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean Nebraska is on an Illinois losing streak, to

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Speaker 2: be clear. They are on an Illinois losing streak, to

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Speaker 2: be clear. So I guess where I'm going with this

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Speaker 2: is eight and four. Is that good enough to keep

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Speaker 2: Scott Frost in Lincoln? Because to me, eight and four

549
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Speaker 2: represents winning that narrow band of games that you could

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Speaker 2: envision a scenario in which they lose but really not

551
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Speaker 2: going above and beyond at all and knocking off anybody

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Speaker 2: that at this juncture in May, we don't think they should.

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Speaker 1: Right. That means they're beating Iowa on the road, they're

554
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Speaker 1: beating Michigan on the road, or beating Wisconsin at home,

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Speaker 1: they're upsetting Oklahoma at home. I think in order to

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Speaker 1: go nine and three, you gotta be one of those

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Speaker 1: teams you just have to. So eight and four, to me,

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Speaker 1: while better than three and nine, and definitely, while representative

559
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Speaker 1: of some sort of change for the better in Lincoln,

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Speaker 1: does that represent a quantum leap for you if they

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Speaker 1: just do what they're supposed to do and take care

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Speaker 1: of the games they're supposed to take care of. You

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Speaker 1: have a favorite Scott Frost Bowl game, I don't there

564
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: are so many to choose from that. It's no that

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Speaker 1: he hasn't into a bowl game. So you're talking about

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Speaker 1: comfortably getting to a bowl. And look, it's the context

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Speaker 1: of what eight and four is. If you lose to

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Speaker 1: Northway going to start the season with everybody watching that game,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what time that kicks off because it's

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Speaker 1: in Ireland, But you lose to the Northwestern team that

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Speaker 1: we are assuming is going to be at best average,

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Speaker 1: if not probably below average, given where they've fallen to

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Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball since Mike Hankwits retired.

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Speaker 1: If they lose twenty seven to three to Michigan, if

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Speaker 1: you know, like, what is the nature of the losses

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Speaker 1: and what is the nature of the wins? Because we're

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Speaker 1: dealing with an Oklahoma team dealing with an enormous amount

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Speaker 1: of change, still talented, still should be dangerous in the

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Speaker 1: medium and long term. But we're talking about what week

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Speaker 1: three week in the regium. Yeah, it's week three, And

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Speaker 1: if you go back and listen to the episode we

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Speaker 1: did a couple days ago, the early line has Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: is only a four and a half point favored in

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Speaker 1: that game.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, take away the decals on the helmets, right,

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Speaker 2: take away the jerrys to take away everything. You're talking

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Speaker 2: about a Nebraska team who is competitive against Oklahoma, and

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma was, for better or worse, stripped for parts at

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Speaker 2: the top by USC. There's a ton to like about Oklahoma,

590
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Speaker 2: but not as much potentially as where they were last

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Speaker 2: year at this time, at least the perception of the Sooners.

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Speaker 2: So saying Nebraska is a home dog with what we

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Speaker 2: think should still be a pretty good defense, with high

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Speaker 2: level ish offensive talent and hitting the portal as hard

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Speaker 2: as they did, like they should be in that game.

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Speaker 2: They should be in a position to win that game

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Speaker 2: against Oklahoma, and a first year coach on the road

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Speaker 2: in a difficult place too.

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Speaker 1: Is eight and four. Yeah, in the scenario that I

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Speaker 1: described where they beat everybody and losed Oklahoma, Michigan, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: and Iowa is an eight and four city and they

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Speaker 1: don't get embarrassed by anybody.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So are you saying they're starting the season eight

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Speaker 2: and one as a top twelve team then and losing their.

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Speaker 1: Faces I I guess I am.

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Speaker 2: So that's a fall from grace. That's a disappointing way.

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Speaker 2: So if they start the season eight and one and

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Speaker 2: finish eight and four losing comfortably, and now I don't

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Speaker 2: see them losing comfortably to Iowa and Wisconsin, Michigan will see,

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Speaker 2: but they didn't last year, and we expect them to

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Speaker 2: be a little bit better, even though the defense might

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Speaker 2: take a step back. Yeah, if they lose those three

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Speaker 2: games comfortably, I think he still probably keeps it. But

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Speaker 2: if they if they go eight and four losing to

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Speaker 2: one or two teams that are not Bowl teams and

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Speaker 2: an embarrassing fact like the Illinois type loss from last year, Illinois's.

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Speaker 1: Be better this year. I just I think he will

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Speaker 1: probably sneak by. I think they have to be better.

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Speaker 1: They were horrible five game improvement. I almost said they

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Speaker 1: were horrible last year, which is not what I meant.

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Speaker 1: They had horrible luck last year. They had nine losses

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Speaker 1: by one scorer that like never happens. So just on

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Speaker 1: that alone, they have to improve from where they were

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Speaker 1: a year ago, hopefully by bringing in some talent on

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Speaker 1: the transfer portal. And otherwise they can improve. They can

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Speaker 1: get more consistent, they can avoid shooting themselves in the foot.

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Speaker 1: You're right to point out that they had a good defense.

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Speaker 1: It would be a huge bummer if they went eight

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Speaker 1: in one and then lost their last three.

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Speaker 2: Now here's the other part of this equation. It's how

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Speaker 2: is Scott Frost relationship with his bosses? How is Scott

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Speaker 2: Frost relationship with the boosters? What is the perception of

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Speaker 2: Scott Frost as a human? And also who else is

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Speaker 2: succeeding in the sport that has interest in the Nebraska job? Well,

635
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: that's right, So there's like the calculus of yes, Nebraska's

636
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: winning more than they should, but long term and if

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Speaker 2: the buyout's coming down, I think you got to strike

638
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: when the iron's hot. If there is a hot iron

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Speaker 2: out there somewhere, who's hot to trot for Lincoln Nebraska?

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Speaker 1: Next question, can Sean Clifford become this year's Kenny Pickett?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: How I love this year's can't it? Dan?

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Speaker 2: Who is the person asking this question.

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Speaker 1: The person asking this question is Sewn. It could be

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Speaker 1: Sean Clifford. Interesting. Interesting, He says, no one expected Pickett

646
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: to be as good as he was last year. Why

647
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: not Clifford this year? First and foremost, not to give

648
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: too much away, we do plan on doing a fantasy

649
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: thing show. We would prefer to do it somewhere live.

650
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: We're working on that. Yep, yep. This year's Kenny Pickett

651
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: will follow in the long line of having a little

652
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: bit of Baker Mayfield in him being this year's Iowa

653
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: being being, Here's Joe Burrow, this HER's Joe Burrow. It

654
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: will be the next iteration of that draft pick when

655
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: it comes to fantasy things. So stay tuned for that.

656
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: Shawan Clifford, Dan, Yeah, I've made the joke time and again.

657
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: He's so old now he's got his own business. Good

658
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: for him in the nil era. I hope it works.

659
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: He will most assuredly be going pro with that business

660
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: as opposed to any kind of NFL superstardom.

661
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: Agreed, Yep, agreed. It depends what he does this year.

662
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: I suppose if we're talking about this year's Kenneth Pickett.

663
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: Will he be this year's Kenneth Pickett, Dan, how do

664
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: you feel about that?

665
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: I don't see it, but I'm open to it. Okay,

666
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: I'm open to it because it's a weird sport and look,

667
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: is Sean Clifford twenty nine?

668
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: Maybe?

669
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: Maybe, And that's a nice little advantage there. I don't

670
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: see it. I don't see it because of what Kenny

671
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: Pickett showed previously. I think was better. I don't have

672
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: the numbers in front of me. I feel as if

673
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: it was more impressive coming in than where Sean Clifford

674
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: has been, which at his best has been interesting. He's

675
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 2: dealt with a number of coordinators where Kenny Pickett at

676
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 2: least had Whipple for a couple of years. Right, how

677
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: many years was Mark Whipple in Pittsburgh? You called that

678
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: up while I'm talking. At least a couple of Yeah,

679
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: a couple of years. So there is And like having

680
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: the blittn a cough winning receiver. Now Sean Clifford has

681
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: had excellent receivers these past couple of years. He's been

682
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: dealing with his own stuff in terms of accuracy and

683
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: happy feet and disappointing offensive line play, disappointment in the

684
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: rushing attack to open up play action stuff. But uh,

685
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: I'm not fully there.

686
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: He hasn't.

687
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: I think Mike Yrsich is a good offensive coordinator. I

688
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 2: just it's a gut thing that Parker Washington is probably

689
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: the likeliest breakout receiver candidate, right, Yeah.

690
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean I like him. I like their transfer Mitchell Tinsley.

691
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: They've got talent out wide, and I think we'll see

692
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: those names bubble up over the course of the year.

693
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: My thing with this is Clifford's gonna be better. He would,

694
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: provided he can stay healthy. Mm hmm.

695
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: I think he will.

696
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: Be better in year two under your sitch, perhaps than

697
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: at any other point in his college career, and that

698
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: would be good for Penn State. Yeah, I don't think

699
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: he is to the Picket level of pick could just

700
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: trot Canny Pickett out there and expect him to win games. Right.

701
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: I don't think Sean Clifford is that quarterback. I think

702
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: he can be good enough to make Penn State a

703
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: better football team, but I think it's also contingent on

704
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: can their offensive line open up holes for Nick Singleton

705
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: or somebody else in the backfield in a way that

706
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: they haven't over the last two seasons. That's been a problem.

707
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: Can they get the hard, gritty yards on third and

708
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: three in a way that they certainly didn't last year.

709
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: These are all things, all factors that I think would

710
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: contribute to Clifford's slash Penn State's offense success in twenty

711
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: twenty two. I'm much more concerned about those things than

712
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: am Clifford becoming the next Kenny Picket because I don't

713
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: think that's that's practical. But can he be better? Can

714
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: those factors around him make the team better? Yeah, I'm

715
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: excited about that. I think that's a real possibility.

716
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 2: Here's here's the other thing to consider if you're talking

717
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 2: about the full context the three hundred and sixty degree

718
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: view of where Kenny Pickett was last year, which was

719
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 2: very good quarterback, Heisman caliber quarterback, made players around him better,

720
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: was a playmaker for a very good team. The ACC

721
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: was kind of a wreck last year. So we're talking

722
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 2: about a Kenny Pickett season that involved a number of

723
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: kind of terrible ACC defenses. When you'll get Wake Forest

724
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: in North Carolina and Virginia and then a Clemson team

725
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 2: which had a ton of trouble fielding a competent offense

726
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: for four quarters at a time. Now, Clems's defense was

727
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: certainly excellent, but there's only so much you can do

728
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: when your offense gets off the field and makes the

729
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: mistakes that it does. It was a great time to

730
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: be great as an ACC quarterback. Last year we saw

731
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: a number of guys in the ACC succeed on a

732
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 2: level where we're like, oh, interesting, Brendan Armstrong, interesting, Tyler

733
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,760
Speaker 2: van Dijk interesting, Kenny Pickett? Who was better than those guys?

734
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: So on this same token, you have to say, is

735
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: there a possibility that a number of teams on Penn

736
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: State schedule are bad in an unforeseen way? Especially on defense?

737
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

738
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: If you have the Penn States in front of you,

739
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: are there, candidate like, look, he will have the opportunity.

740
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: They open up at Perdue. Okay, that's a.

741
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: Game people will be watching.

742
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: I think it might be on the Big Ten network

743
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: or it's a Big Ten game of Fox season. It's

744
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: a Fox game. He has Auburn on the road. If

745
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: he pops against Auburn, he will get, rightfully a good

746
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: amount of attention heading into the meat of the Big

747
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 2: Ten schedule. He has Michigan on the road, Minnesota, Ohio

748
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: State in a row in October. There's the meet right there,

749
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: and it's kind of a soft landing spot until Michigan

750
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: State in the Land Grant Game. We're not talking about

751
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: Sean Clifford a on a Heisman level, I don't think

752
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: to me or to you, but some of those defenses.

753
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 2: If Indiana falls to a place Maryland falls or continues

754
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 2: to be where it was Rutgers Minnesota, if they're bad

755
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: in a way that we don't anticipate, sure that comes

756
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: at Penn State, but Ohio State, Michigan should be good.

757
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 2: He can put up interesting numbers if he's, you know,

758
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: in a place to succeed. But I don't know if

759
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: I see the meat of those teams in the same

760
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: way that what Pitt had in the acc happening for

761
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: Shan Clifford.

762
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: Interesting numbers is not Kenny Pickett. And so I agree

763
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: with you. You mean not Shan Clifford interesting numbers. No,

764
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: is not Kenny Pickett. Interesting numbers for Sean Clifford is

765
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: not this year's Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett had transcendent numbers. Yeah,

766
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: and so in order to be that caliber this season,

767
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: it would take a pretty big quantum leep forward here

768
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: in the off season for Clifford, which I don't see.

769
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: I think I agree with you, Clifford season is going

770
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: to be defined in two three week stretches. Yeah, the

771
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: first three games of the year, starting off on the

772
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: road at Purdue and ending Week three on the road

773
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: at Auburn. And then after the bye week in mid

774
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: October when they go to Michigan and then come back

775
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: home against Minnesota and then Ohio State. That Taylor the

776
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: stretch that defines the season for Penn State and probably

777
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: Clifford as well.

778
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: Taylor wants to know what does Texas Tech need to

779
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: do to get back into the national consciousness over the

780
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: next couple of years. I'm caustiously optimistic for twenty twenty two,

781
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 2: but playing at NC State, going to see this one

782
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: in person. Hell yeah, Taylor and Houston in the non

783
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 2: conference portion of the schedule could make for a down year.

784
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: Tie.

785
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, what does Texas Tech need to do? Zach Kittley,

786
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 2: Tim de Ruter, Yeah, running the offense and defense respectively.

787
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: For Joey maguire, what does Texas Tech need to do

788
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 2: to Uh? Obviously, winning makes a good deal of sense.

789
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: It helps to get people excited about Red Raider football.

790
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: But are there certain ways to win? Are there certain

791
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: teams to beat? I mean the twenty twenty two opening

792
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: stands that. Do you have the schedule in front of you.

793
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: Have the Texas Tech schedule. Whoof Yeah, it's rough. Fun,

794
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 1: it's rough through mid October. It's it's pretty tough. Outside

795
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: of Murray State. There is a game at home against Houston,

796
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: which will not be an easy game. There's that road

797
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: game that Taylor mentioned against NC State. They come back

798
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: home after that against Texas, then they're back on the

799
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: road against k State and Oklahoma State. That's a rough

800
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: stretch for six games. That's pretty tough. That's a little

801
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: bit easier after that, but it's a tough schedule throughout

802
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: for Texas Tech. If you look at what they did

803
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: last year. All right, I can kind of answer this

804
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: in two parts. Specifically with regard to what we saw

805
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: last year. They had a hard time getting off the

806
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: field on defense, and that does not bode well in

807
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve, where everybody likes to air it out.

808
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: Some are better than others. But do they still though

809
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: maybe not to the same extent as before. Yeah, okay,

810
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: but there is still plenty of offensive potential in that

811
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: conference to air it out and beat you deep or

812
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: beat you quick with a couple big plays. Tech's got

813
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: to get better at that. You've got to get better

814
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: at not allowing that to happen, all right, So that's

815
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 1: the first thing. They weren't horrible against the big plays

816
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: last year, but they were bad at getting off the field,

817
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, three and our percentage was horrible. So I

818
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: think that especially is something that I hope Joey maguire

819
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: will focus on. Also in terms of just defensing the

820
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: pass right. Again, big plays maybe not as big of

821
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: an issue for this Texas Tech team as it had

822
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: been in the past, but they gave up a really

823
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: high completion percentage. Their success rates against the were really low.

824
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: So he's got to do something right out of the

825
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: choot to make that defense better and play tougher and

826
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: just get off the field where it's not all on

827
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: the offense. Beyond that, I do think it's a culture

828
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: thing to some extent. I think Texas Tech has been

829
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: in sort of this weird funnel ever since Mike Leach left,

830
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: where they're trying to find their identity and the Matt

831
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Wells thing. I think we liked Matt Wells when he

832
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: was hired away from Utah State, but it never really

833
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: took flight. This is a team that I think has

834
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: enough talent to be plucky at worst, and we saw

835
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: that last season as well. What he needs to do,

836
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: and maybe it starts with defense, is trying still some toughness.

837
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: I think if he takes a full steer into recruiting

838
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: into talent that is close by in Texas, that is

839
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: something that Joey Maguire has a lot of knowledge of

840
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: being so he is a former high school coach in

841
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: the Great State of Texas. I think really steering into

842
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: what makes Texas Tech and Lobbock unique, what could attract

843
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: other talent from nearby places just in the state of Texas,

844
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 1: all of those things over the long haul can definitely

845
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: make Texas Tech a lot better than they've been in

846
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: terms of the schedule. In terms of the schedule, we

847
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: talked about the first six games. It evens out a

848
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: little bit beyond that, but it is sort of tough

849
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: the whole way through. So I think what would be

850
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: really important for Joey Maguire is if he can get

851
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: one early. I don't know if it's that road tilt

852
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: against NC State. Maybe it's a home game against Texas.

853
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: You know, if you beat an in state team like

854
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: a Texas or if you go to Oklahoma State like

855
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: we've seen Spencer Sanders take some games off, that's a

856
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: game where you win a big one in the Big

857
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: Twelve like that. Perhaps it's sort of snowballs and leads

858
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: to greater things. So defense has to get better. If

859
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: you can steal one early, I think that makes the

860
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: team all the better for it. But it's probably a

861
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: multi year project for Tech. No, I think everything has

862
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: said it's correct. I think the defense will be better.

863
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: By the way, not a terrible time to be rebooting

864
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,240
Speaker 2: things in the Big Twelve. Across the board, No Texas.

865
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: New quarterback Kansas State Adrian Martinez is taking over, presumably

866
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: for Skyler Thompson TCU starting from scratch. Baylor just named

867
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: Blake Shape And who had playing time obviously was promising

868
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: last year and helped them to win the Big Twelve

869
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: championship game. But he takes over full time for Baylor.

870
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State loses a big chunk of their defense and

871
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: Jim Knowles the unit, the group of people that made

872
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: them terrific. Like you look at the threats in Oklahoma

873
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: obviously losing what they did, like it's kind of a

874
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: conference wide reboot. Iowa State losing the sheer number of

875
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: upper classmen, of course, highlighted by Brock Perdy and Breeze

876
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 2: Hall that they lost in what should have been probably

877
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 2: a better year for the Clones last year. There's a

878
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: lot of teams that are kind of starting from the

879
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: same point in terms of what made them so strong

880
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: experience wise last year. It's now a place where they're

881
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: starting over. If not, you know, TCU in the same

882
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: place as Texas Tech in a full full reboot. So yeah,

883
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 2: NC State's scared, scary. A lot of teams are potentially scary,

884
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: or Baylor the defending chimp scary. But I don't know.

885
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: You have a good opening half of the year, you

886
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 2: start figuring things out. You got the experienced success stories

887
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: a coordinator that they do. I think they have Oregon

888
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: next year, by the way, as well, beat Oregon and

889
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: Lubbock in twenty twenty three.

890
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: How about that. You'll get into the national consciousness there. Yep.

891
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: It's such a good point about the Big twelve and

892
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: how many times over the course of the last five years. Yeah,

893
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: with Lincoln Riley at Oklahoma. Are we looking at this

894
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: conference going into the start of the season saying that

895
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: team is the team to beat. I still think Oklahoma

896
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: is the team to beat, but there are so many

897
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: other variables now to consider. I don't know if any

898
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: of us at this juncture I suppose that could change,

899
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: are looking at the Big twelve and pointing to the

900
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: behemoth that everybody is afraid of. We just talked about Oklahoma.

901
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's only a four and a half point row favored

902
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: against Nebraska. Nebraska should be improved, right, but that is

903
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily the mark of a team that Vegas is

904
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: looking as a juggernaut. So it's an interesting conference to

905
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: say the least in twenty twenty two, given all the

906
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: turnover and some of the new faces in new places.

907
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 2: I think you are not putting enough respect on Baylor's

908
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: name by saying that the conference goes through Oklahoma after

909
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: with a first year head coach, with the change at quarterback,

910
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: with a more thin roster at this point, it'll be

911
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: very good roster. But right now I think Baylor's in

912
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: a better position to succeed.

913
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: I do. I hope, so, I hope. So it was

914
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: a great year last year. Yeah, okay, Koopa, two brains

915
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: from Twitter great? Which Corners Island is the most deserted

916
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: slash harder to escape from? And who is the Tom

917
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 1: Hanks that can oh oh good reference? Well that's a

918
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: castaway reference, isn't it.

919
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: It's a castaway reference. Okay, we've mentioned Utah. I loved

920
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: watching Clark Phillips. Also I hated watching he's an Oregon fan.

921
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: Clark Phillips was a guy who was a signifier of

922
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: where Utah is ascending to right now within the sport.

923
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: In that he was a four star from southern California

924
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 2: and Utah beat out a number of huge places, including

925
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 2: a believe Ohio state for his services and was very

926
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: good against the Buckeyes. I think he forced that fumble

927
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: the Jackson Smith and Jigba fumble into the end zone

928
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: in that game. He is somebody who is going to

929
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 2: be especially given where the Pac twelve is at right now.

930
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: Receiver wise. We'll see with USC's guys, we'll see with

931
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 2: Oregons guys, but it's not a loaded conference at receiver

932
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: right now. I think he's going to have a ton

933
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: of success and could show out starting as early as

934
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 2: a Week one against Florida, Eli Rix at Alabama will

935
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: absolutely be in an incredible position to succeed, especially given

936
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: who's rushing the passer for Alabama and how quickly a

937
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: ball will have to come out of a quarterback's hands

938
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: all the time. I think Eli Rix is great. South

939
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 2: Carolina has a dude that I didn't really know too

940
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: much about during the season, but if we watched Cam

941
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: Smith in South Carolina. Michigan's got a guy who I

942
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 2: really like was a DJ Gardner. Is that his name?

943
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: At Michigan there are a few different guys. Now I'm

944
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: trying to roll off through the top of my head.

945
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Keey Ringo from Georgia.

946
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the National Championship steiling pick six. Yeah, yep.

947
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: He's sort of like the presumptive top corner at least

948
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: in terms of NFL draft prospects out there. I've talked

949
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: a lot about Tony Grimes for North Carolina. I think

950
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: he's got interesting potential. Mm hm, there is room to

951
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: grow there, but I think Tony Grimes by season's end

952
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: is probably a name that becomes a little bit more

953
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: part of the draft conversation. I like Joey Porter Junior

954
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: from Penn State. There are some inconsistencies with Joey Porter's

955
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: game at Parley State. DJ Turner not DJ Gardner had

956
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 1: my Devin Gardner. Yep. Yeah, So Joey Porter Junior. I'm

957
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: interested in seeing because Penn State traditionally has played very

958
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 1: well in defense. They've obviously placed guys from their defensive

959
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: back field in the NFL that he's got some inconsistencies

960
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: that he needs to iron out. I think he could

961
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: be another name that would be of particular interest.

962
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: Denzel Burke at Ohio State, by the way, staying in

963
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: the Big Ten, especially with the new Jim Knowles. You know,

964
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: Sir Blitz a lot Junkyard Jim Knowles were very high

965
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: on Jim. Denzel Burke was.

966
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: Really good and he's young. All right?

967
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: Next question, Next question Ross. Now that we've seen two

968
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 2: big time head coaches leave major programs, Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley,

969
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: how about Mario Cristaball in Oregon? Are there any team

970
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: safe from having their coaches poached? And I guess the

971
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: christ of Ball thing is a little different because it

972
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: was he's from Miami. Besides the team like Alabama, Ohio

973
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 2: State or Georgia who has an alum like Kirby Smart.

974
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: Are we presuming safety incorrectly for any major like? I

975
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 2: think it's safe to say because of the alumni status,

976
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh will probably not leave Michigan for other college job.

977
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: That's the caveat for another Oh no, his job.

978
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: He very recently wanted to leave Michigan, Yeah, for another

979
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: college job. In terms of guys who I think are

980
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: cemented where they are at save it ain't going anywhere.

981
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: They would pay whatever to keep him in Tuscaloosa. He's

982
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: not looking to go elsewhere. He's not going back to

983
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: the NFL, right, I think he is safe for as

984
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: long as he wants to be there. The same is

985
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: probably true for Kirby Smart. I don't know how well

986
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: Kirby Smart projects to being an NFL coach. Okay, oh no,

987
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: he's got it good. He's changing the laws in the

988
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 1: state and which he coaches. He's got it good. I

989
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: think he's got it pretty good in Athens. So I

990
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: think he is probably immune from any of that discussion.

991
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 1: It wasn't all that long ago people were rumoring Ryan

992
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: Day to the Bears all right. Again, I don't know

993
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: how realistic that is, But I don't know if I

994
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: would consider Ryan Day completely off limits with respect to

995
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. So I'm gonna throw them out there as well.

996
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: He's a younger guy and he's he's seen a ton

997
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: of success. A couple more years of this, he will

998
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: be a name that you know again, will be on

999
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: NFL raiders. Brian Kelly is interesting. I don't see him

1000
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: going to another college job. I don't think the NFL

1001
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: thing is going to happen at this point, so he's

1002
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: probably in that discussion as well. What about Jimbo Fisher Dan,

1003
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: Jimbo Fisher will listen. I think he's in a good place.

1004
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: But as we know, Jimbo Fisher is willing to listen.

1005
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,879
Speaker 1: The thing is, the thing that we're not mentioning here

1006
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: is just the relationship that these guys have with either

1007
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: the geographic place in which they're coaching and where they're from,

1008
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: where their family is, where their friends are, where their

1009
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: history is, whatever, and also just the relationship with their bosses,

1010
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: with the culture that they won't have any control over

1011
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: the administrative culture. And if there's changes at athletic director,

1012
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: changes up chancellor at president, if there's like a weird

1013
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: thing that happens behind the scenes with boosters, Like there's

1014
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: there's an interpersonal element. So like does Ryan Day love

1015
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: coaching at Ohios? All signs point ts all signs, But

1016
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 1: like Nick Saban retires and Alabama throws fifteen million dollars

1017
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: at Ryan Day and for whatever reason, he doesn't like

1018
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: living in Columbus now he's from the north, He's from

1019
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: I believe he's in that New Hampshire mafia. Sure, like

1020
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: there are it's just the behind the scenes stuff and

1021
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: whether it was Brian Kelly not believing the administration about

1022
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,720
Speaker 1: building new facilities or feeling that Notre Dame had a ceiling,

1023
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: or if it was Lincoln Riley for whatever reason, just

1024
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: having one eye on the west coast in LA that's

1025
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: where he and his family want it to be. There

1026
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: are going to be more situations like that. Now.

1027
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: The money is getting so wild that it's going to

1028
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 2: be hard to justify leaving a good place in which

1029
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 2: you are recruiting, in which you are succeeding. But also

1030
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: if Jimbo Fisher never breaks through in the sec West

1031
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: and somebody huge throws him a bunch of money in

1032
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: a few years, right, sure, sure, there is nothing to

1033
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 2: keep a coach somewhere when the money is cartoonish and

1034
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: is a desired geographically or interpersonally to be elsewhere. So like,

1035
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 2: if Billy Napier has a ton of success at Florida,

1036
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: would he leave for another huge job?

1037
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: Sure?

1038
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: Absolutely. If Steve Sarkejan for some reason breaks through in

1039
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 2: Austin in Texas but does not like dealing with the

1040
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: behind the scenes crowd on the forty acres, would he

1041
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 2: leave for a huge job somewhere else Sure?

1042
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1043
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: I just don't think we can say somebody has definitely

1044
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 2: planted their flag if they're taking a job now or

1045
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: they have in the last you know, five seven years.

1046
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: No, and the money, as you said, is cartoonish, and

1047
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: the money, the money has a tendency to make some

1048
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: strange things happen. As the question eluded, Brian Kelly gonna

1049
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: be wearing gonna be wearing LSU purple, and yeah, lincolnd

1050
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: Riley a different shade of red, so we shall see.

1051
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: I think that.

1052
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: List is very exclusive and it may be getting in

1053
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: with Nick Saban. But let's go one more question here

1054
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: before we cut it over to part two, which again

1055
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna make available via our Patreon at forballers dot com.

1056
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: We've also got a whole host of awesome off topic,

1057
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: non football questions that we do need to address, but

1058
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: for the purposes of keeping this show to a reasonable length,

1059
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: we'll close it out with this one from Stephen. We

1060
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: started talking before the show, before we hit record about

1061
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: how the voice, your macho man Randy Savage voice that

1062
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: you've done on occasion on this show and that you

1063
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: now do for your boys at home, how that's morphed

1064
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: into something else?

1065
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's morphed into a I forget if it's Bebopa.

1066
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: Rock Steady who it. It sort of.

1067
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 2: Takes that, uh, that macho man Randy Savage and adds

1068
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: like a like like a valley like nineties like brands,

1069
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: and there's a little bit of the like Baseball Tonight

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Speaker 1: That's what it's.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of morphed into because there are two or

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Speaker 2: at least there were in two ESPN voiceover guys right

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Speaker 2: where it was like more authoritative and then like day

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Speaker 2: Hilden ran.

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Speaker 1: Right, and that's where my macho man has morphed. Stephen says, Dude,

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Speaker 1: today's types of universal, offensive and defensive philosophies feel like

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Speaker 1: the end of the road in regards to identity. So

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Speaker 1: interesting question. First thought here was coastal Carolina, which sort

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Speaker 1: of incorporates everything but has kind of become an identity

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Speaker 1: unto itself. Right sure. I also thought of my brief

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00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: moment in time when I went to a friend's wedding

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00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: in Hawaii, eating the local cuisine, which is effectively a

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00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 1: fusion of many other different types of problems. Hawaii Food's terrific. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's fair to say that the

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Speaker 1: combination that the hybrid of all of these different philosophies

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Speaker 1: is meaning no identity exists. I actually think quite the contrary.

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Speaker 1: We just don't know what those identities are because they

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Speaker 1: take on a different form than we've typically seen, traditionally seen.

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Speaker 1: And I thought of your voice, Dan, I thought of

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Speaker 1: your voice when this question came up, because that voice,

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Speaker 1: even though we don't know what to call it, is

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Speaker 1: still kind of its own thing, right yep, I agree,

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Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. And by the way, definitely just

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Speaker 1: speak to your younger children as macho man, Randy Savage

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Approximation. The boys like that voice, how do

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Speaker 1: they feel about it? I think that it just sort

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Speaker 1: of flies over their head at this point. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like I will go and get the one year old

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Speaker 2: and he'll be standing at his crab ready to come

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Speaker 2: out and be.

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Speaker 1: Like, what's going on, brother? You ready to have a great.

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Speaker 2: D And he just raises his hands up to be

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Speaker 2: picked up like it's He doesn't laugh, he doesn't get uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: He's just like, all right, this is my dumb dad.

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Speaker 1: Has your older son tried to imitate that voice at all?

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Speaker 2: He imitates me doing the voice, okay, and so he

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00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: will He has a funny because obviously he's a very

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00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: high pitched voice. He's a three year old. But I

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00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: will point out it's like, oh, that's a that's a

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00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: tanker truck when we pass the gas station and he'll

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Speaker 2: say's truck. Yeah, So he does like like mudom dad.

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Speaker 2: That's as close as he'll get. He can't really do

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Speaker 2: the raspy element of it. But my take on this

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00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: question is I think I think scheme is sort of

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00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: an amoeba, right, It's taking all sorts of shapes, even

1117
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: though there is a more universal trend towards the spread

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00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: and trend towards the quote unquote speed in space and

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00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: looking for mobile quarterbacks and you know, getting offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: pulling and on the move and whatever, and trying to

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Speaker 2: get creative with like the quick screen game that everybody's

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00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: trying to do. And defensively, you're seeing more of a

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Speaker 2: shift towards the more four two five, three three five.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just a product of what schools can

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Speaker 2: do on the recruiting trail, Like there's over the years

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Speaker 2: there have been a lot of schools and a lot

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Speaker 2: of programs that have said, Okay, we're gonna run a

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Speaker 2: three four, and then they can't find true inside linebackers

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Speaker 2: and they can't find a true nose, and they're trying

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Speaker 2: to stuff you know, the square type personnel into a

1131
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: circle peg a vice versa. And so I think teams

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00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: are getting smarter about, Okay, we can't really find a

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Speaker 2: true nose, or we can't really find that like big Danta,

1134
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 2: high tower type linebacker, but we can find kind of

1135
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: a two hundred and eighteen pound hybrid guy who's fast

1136
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Speaker 2: and can play a little bit of safety and a

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Speaker 2: little bit of linebacker. Now, those type of Isaiah Simmons

1138
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 2: types are impossible to find, but just the body type

1139
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: and the skill set perhaps easier to find across the

1140
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Speaker 2: board than an agile three hundred and sixty two pounder

1141
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: Mount Cody type. So I think we are getting to

1142
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: that place. But at the same time, I think you

1143
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: miss a little bit of the nuance and I think

1144
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: you miss a little bit of the zigging while others

1145
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: are zagging to a power rushing attack. Not necessarily of

1146
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: like a Stanford, Wisconsin, but I think teams utilizing those

1147
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 2: types of things. Now you can't always find a ton

1148
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 2: of great offensive linemen and keep a ton of great

1149
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 2: offensive linemen right like in the portal era. You have

1150
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: to run systems that can be learned quickly.

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Speaker 1: And that's my point, That was going to be my point. Continue, Yeah, just.

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00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: Because teams are going to become more homogeneous, because players

1153
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: more and more on both sides of the ball, have

1154
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 2: to be able to learn quickly or rely on familiar

1155
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 2: things that they've already learned. Because there's just more movement

1156
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 2: across the sport. So I think we're going to see

1157
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: more teams running similar things. But I also think as

1158
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: the sport is more accepting of younger minds like we've

1159
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 2: seen Marcus Freeman and Dan Lanning whatever, that you're going

1160
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 2: to have not necessarily new ideas, but perhaps new ways

1161
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: of doing things or not coming in with as many

1162
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: preconceived notions just because they're thirty four. They're thirty seven,

1163
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: and they've gotten into that position by being innovative and

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Speaker 2: interesting on whatever level.

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Speaker 1: Identity may be driven by adaptability. Sure in this new

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Speaker 1: era of younger coaches, different recruiting, nil, the transfer portal,

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Speaker 1: what have you. If you can adapt the scheme quickly

1168
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: to a baller that you were able to pull in

1169
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: off the transfer portal, that puts you in a unique spot.

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Speaker 1: And if you're able to kind of build your identity

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01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: around a certain player in a very short period of time.

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Speaker 1: The NBA sort of does this right like it is

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Speaker 1: a player driven league. College football perhaps is going to

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Speaker 1: that place where coaches who can build and adapt their

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Speaker 1: schemes quickly and aren't rigid they stand to maybe be

1176
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Speaker 1: a little bit more successful in this era. But we're

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Speaker 1: just at the very leading edge of it.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see, by the way, another element to this

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Speaker 2: where I think you're still going to get continued maybe

1180
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Speaker 2: not full innovation, but wrinkles and smart dudes coming up

1181
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: and doing things different. Is everybody can watch f S games,

1182
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: everybody can get tape on a lot of smaller school stuff.

1183
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: And we have a number of high profile coaches who

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Speaker 2: are unafraid to dip into smaller school ranks to find

1185
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Speaker 2: coaching talent. Whether it's Chip Kelly, whether it's Mike Gundy,

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Speaker 2: whether it's James Franklin. Guys have done a really good

1187
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: job of saying we just want somebody smart, somebody who

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Speaker 2: can relate to guys on the recruiting trail. Of course,

1189
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: but if somebody's doing something interesting at an Ivy League school,

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Speaker 2: at a big sky school, whatever, we're interested. We're interested.

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01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,479
Speaker 2: And whether it's you know, a school at Kansas State

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01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: hiring God, now I'm blanking on Kansas State's head coach's name,

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Speaker 2: Chris Climbing, just Climbing, or you know, Wyoming High and

1194
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 2: Craig Bull who obviously these guys have major school experience,

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Speaker 2: but everybody is in deep search of wins and they'll

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Speaker 2: go to wherever they can to find the minds that

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Speaker 2: can get them there. So I still think we are

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Speaker 2: I don't know again, I don't know if we're gonna

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Speaker 2: see a full reinvention of the wheel and the way

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Speaker 2: that we did in like the you know, Randy Walker, Chip,

1201
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: Kelly urban Meyer, you know, bread and shred type stuff.

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Speaker 2: But rich Rod, I just I wouldn't doubt that we're

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Speaker 2: in for something new coming up. I don't know why not.

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Speaker 1: All righty, well, thank you to one and all who

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Speaker 1: sent in questions. We have pages upon pages of questions

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, can I tell you the subject of a

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Speaker 2: lot of these questions in Part two.

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Speaker 1: For the people who part one, pease right tee.

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Speaker 2: I've got dogs. I've got pizza, I've got cheese. I've

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Speaker 2: got airports. I've got cities. I've got video games. I

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Speaker 2: have bicycles. I have dimensioned golf. No, I've got lawyers.

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Speaker 2: I've got a city in Texas to talk about. I

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Speaker 2: have yearbook elements to college football, so that's sort of

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Speaker 2: a hybrid category. I have ice cream here. I have

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Speaker 2: self help. I have Mother's Day. I have ordering at restaurants.

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Speaker 2: I got a lot to get through.

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Speaker 1: Scotch Scotch great, Okay, got there for that guy, o' there,

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Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubins, for myself, Tie Hill and Brandt,

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