WEBVTT - Pete Crow-Armstrong makes his MVP case as Cubs work around late-season issues 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:09.879 Welcome into Northside Territory. Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:13.480 Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:19.239 Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic. Patrick. It was 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:24.880 what two weeks ago that Peter Armstrong had an MVP 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:28.920 moment during his sweep of the Dodgers. Two homer game. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:33.920 Just a great game with the Shoho Tani also matching 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:39.760 him that night. Last night, Monday night opener of Cubs 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:45.639 White Sox. Great atmosphere, great game. Pete Homer's on the 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:50.000 first pitch of the bottom of the first inning and 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.960 two runs shot to end the game. In the bottom 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.560 of the tenth inning, he mixed in I believe a 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:03.320 double and a single and a in there and just 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:08.400 I mean an electric atmosphere, an electric game performance by 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.320 Pete that goes down for the ages. It feels like 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:15.680 that was that was a special special night at Wrigley. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.480 Yeah, it feels like that's going to be part of 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:24.399 the highlight reel for Cross Towns for ever. 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:26.400 I like the rest of time. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.800 As long as we have baseball on TV and the 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:31.000 Cubs and Socks play each other, we love kind. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:36.679 Of rewinding the big moments, and that was certainly one 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:37.000 of them. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:42.399 I think did Craig Council called Pete's best game, best 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:43.240 all around game. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:48.440 As a problem, Yeah, something like that, It was. I mean, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.880 I think this might be a game in the big 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.240 leagues right here. Yeah. 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:53.560 Wow. 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:58.720 I mean that's saying something because you really can put 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:02.240 all of these into one and you know, super long 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:04.560 highlight reel, and I think it really just hits you 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:09.600 of like how he has just elevated everything around him. 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.080 He's elevated the crowds, the energies, the energy at Wrigley 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.920 Pictures performed better when Pete's running around center field making 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:24.239 difficult catches look routine. Obviously, the lineup, the entire complexion 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.240 of it changed when he went to the leadoff spot 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.760 and he made all these improvements that you know, we've 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:33.080 written about, we've discussed on here. And as that game 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:38.400 kind of slowly built towards the end, it just felt 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:42.360 like Pete was going to be involved there, like you 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:43.480 just he just. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.800 Has his knack for the moment. 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.960 And I think you're right about the playoff atmosphere, like 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.799 Sunday was a blowout loss, you know, kind of after 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.520 something stretched, things sort of cleared out. So you know 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:02.200 at Carson Kelly ninth inning, lots of empty green seats, 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:06.200 and last night go in the tenth inning. You know, 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:09.400 not every single seat was filled, but it definitely looked 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:14.560 like nine capacity, you know, on a on a Monday 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.840 night in the quote unquote Dog Days of August. 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.200 Yeah, there were a couple of empty seats because some 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.080 people got kicked out after getting in fights. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.120 Oh yeah, that's that's right. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:31.200 Yeah, I don't want to out by the Yeah, police department. Yeah, 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.200 that was that was a bessy incident. And it was 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:36.880 clearly visible to us in the press box to the 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.960 point where I saw I could see it through my binoculars. 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.800 And I'm sure many of you have seen it online 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.920 already that that wasn't fun to watch. It got it 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.600 got pretty bad, and usually that that but that's not unusual. 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:54.240 There's usually fights during Cubs White Sox. This is an 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:58.800 unfortunate byproduct. I do appreciate the passion in general, though, 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.360 and there were a lot of chance, a lot of 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:06.160 go whites like White Sox. Chance, a lot of Cubs 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:09.280 booing to kind of drown out those White Sox fans. 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:14.920 But this is like Pete is an insanely polarizing player, 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.760 so posing fans are just gonna dislike him, like right 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.200 off the bat. Obviously there was an incident at the 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:26.040 Cell earlier this year with Pete and a fan, and 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.599 then he puts on that type of performance. Both teams 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:35.360 are doing really well. Just just a fun, fun night. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:41.800 We don't always get those types of nights, but it 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.840 was nice to experience that, And honestly, it was one 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:49.160 of those things where like, as it was happening, I 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:54.159 don't think I fully appreciated how fun that evening was 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:57.719 until that final pitch and I was like, it was 0:04:57.800 --> 0:05:01.159 a really fun back and forth, great moments the White Sox. 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.200 I think I had like four or five hits all night, 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.440 but two of them were just like the crushing blow variety, 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.040 And obviously the Cubs ended up getting the biggest hit 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:15.159 of the night, but some great performances at Pete is 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:18.800 right up there at the very top. It's a it's 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.560 we're we're witnessing a special season and we don't get 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:26.320 this very often. And I think now we're starting to 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.479 see the tide turn nationally where people are like, maybe 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.279 Pete is the most Valuable Player. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:36.599 Yeah, I mean he was in the clubhouse there after 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:40.239 he wrapped up his media obligations, and it's like he's 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.880 on Sports Center or whatever, and like he just keeps 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:48.000 having these moments that add up and kind of steep 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:54.120 into your consciousness. And we're going to get into this later, 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.920 Like the Cubs have needed an MVP type performance because 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.000 they have kind of a lot of issues going on 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:04.839 and they're still somehow twenty games over five hundred. But 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.520 you know, you heard it, you know, when Jacob Webb 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.000 had that awesome performance in the tenth, top of the tenth, 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.559 you could hear like, you know, the the PCA chance 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.640 started like immediately, and I think, you know, people kind 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:22.280 of sense this moment from Pete, they sort of expect it. 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.520 I thought it was interesting how he was kind of 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.359 chapped at his performance against the Cardinals over the weekend 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:32.520 that you know, Craig Council alluded to it that it was, 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.279 you know, kind of quiet by my Pete's standards and 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.400 what accounts is say, like you can tell when Pete's 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.160 not happy, like he's done a better job of containing 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.440 his emotions, but you can you can kind of tell 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.320 his moods fairly. 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:55.240 Easily. He's kind of easy to read in that regard, and. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.960 No doubt, I mean he he's delivered. It's kind of 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.080 mind boggling. I think you and I talk about we 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.800 always have coverage plans and kind of like you know, 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.159 thinking thinking ahead for the playoffs and stuff like that. 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:12.640 Like this guy is kind of one in one a 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:13.720 with show hey right now. 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:18.520 And I don't think anyone, even the most optimistic like 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:20.520 believers in Pete, I don't think they would have seen 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.920 this coming this fast. But his credit, he keeps working 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.440 at it, and you can tell how much he cares 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.480 like he is not satisfied at all. You know, it's 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.320 a random weekend in August, and he's pissed when he 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.120 doesn't come through. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:42.520 So starting from that second game of the of the 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:47.520 road trip Kansas City and DC, he had four total 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:51.600 hits through the Cardinals series. Two of them were home runs, 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.240 you know. One I believe was like this rocket home 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.760 run in Washington if I'm remembering correctly, But it just 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.320 was it seemed like he wasn't at his best. Uh 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:06.120 and and it was like, hmm, is this the beginning 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:10.920 of a second half? You know, like like last season. Uh. 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.800 I think he quickly put that to rest last night. 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:20.440 We like I said, we're watching something pretty special here 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.520 right now. Council, I think is trying to remind us 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.480 of that whenever we ask questions about it, because he 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:31.960 doesn't like just like have this flowery praise for everyone 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:36.319 and anyone after a good game. He's I think everyone 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:39.600 is kind of taken aback at how special this performance 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:43.120 has has been thus far in the season. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:43.880 Uh. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:48.200 And and it's I mean, he's it's not like this 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:51.960 team is lacking in talent or he's the only player, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:56.280 but he's he's the spark. He's I think the phrase 0:08:56.360 --> 0:09:00.440 you like to use is he's the straw that stirs 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:05.600 the drink, the old Reggie Jackson I think phrase, he's 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:09.320 definitely that for this team. Let's take a quick break 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:13.400 and come back and talk about some things that aren't 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.800 so great for this team that's actually playing pretty well. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.120 In twenty games over five hundred. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.720 Sea Geek is the official ticket marketplace for Major League Baseball, 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.720 and anytime you want to go to a game, you 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.440 should go to sea Geek. I used to call the 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:28.400 director of team travel. I used to call the traveling 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:31.160 secretary whatever they want to be called KP to try 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:33.360 to get a seat. But on Sea Geek, I can 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.480 pick my own seat, and I can pick where I 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.600 want to sit instead of being told where to sit. 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.840 Yeah, it's a great option. And summer is coming to 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:46.080 an end here soon. 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If they don't always give a 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:57.040 specific timeline, but they did for this four weeks. Four 0:10:57.040 --> 0:11:01.440 weeks would put him in the middle of September. That is, 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.199 you know, I would say, like the season ends, I 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.360 believe September twenty eight. So let's say it gives him 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.199 like ten days if he comes back to play right 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:14.800 away at that point. Look, Dansby Swanson is not like 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:19.199 he's not Peek grow Armstrong in the lineup, but he's 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.560 a league average bat. We all know where Dansby Swanson 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:26.040 brings his value. It's with his glove. He's the backbone 0:11:26.080 --> 0:11:31.760 of this defense. He's the shortstop, most important position on 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:36.280 the field for what some people are arguing is the 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:41.200 best defense we've seen. So it is a blow. I 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:44.640 don't think that, you know, I don't think we should 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.240 gloss over that and what this loss is. And it 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.680 needs to be four weeks because you want you want 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.160 him to get some runway before the playoffs, and you 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:55.600 need him out there. I don't think it's impossible for 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.520 them to do well without him. I just don't. I 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:02.120 don't think you want to roll on others and really 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.920 test your depth. You just want to be one hundred 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.400 percent healthy going into the playoffs. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:10.800 No mean Mike. 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.680 Schield, the Padres manager at the time, said it like, 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:14.880 I don't know if there's an MVP for this round 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:16.959 of the playoffs, but if there was, it would be Dansby, 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.600 And like, the defense is that important. And I think 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:26.080 everyone saw Dansby's skills really play up in those low 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:30.480 scoring environments, and I agree, I don't think they'll be 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:34.959 like a huge drop off. But those double plays that 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:39.200 him and Nico make just left and right all the time, 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:46.520 they prevent so many beginnings that they help preserve pitchers. 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:48.080 And I think. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.920 If not all of those plays are made with the 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.440 same consistency, I think there will be, you know, a 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:59.960 slight drop off at least. And so, yeah, they seem 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.360 to avoid the worst case scenario, and go bleaks are 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:09.200 tricky just from as reporters trying to cover it. That's 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:13.760 kind of what we've been told over the years, and 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.240 if he can get back within that month time frame, 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:18.319 I think they'll be. 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:24.840 Okay. I think you see why they didn't trade Pedro Amirez. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:25.280 Why. 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.720 You know, it's a good thing that Matt Shaw is 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:34.600 still around. Alex Bregman's quietly been an excellent defender at 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.440 third base. I feel like we focus so much on 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.880 his hitting that sort of gets overlooked. But no doubt, 0:13:39.920 --> 0:13:41.760 Dansby is just one of those players. The more you 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.400 watch him, the more you appreciate him. And I think 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.160 cub Sans will probably appreciate him a little more when 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.000 he's not out there. 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.920 As good as this defense has been, you know, it's 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.720 hard to say that they can stay at the same 0:13:57.880 --> 0:14:01.800 level without Dansby Swanson, but probably. I mean, I can't 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.160 imagine there's many teams that are better suited to handle 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:09.439 a loss like this. You move Nico Horner to shortstop. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.079 It's been a while since he played there, but when 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.360 he did, he was, by some metrics, a top two, 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:21.640 three five shortstop defensively in the game. Then you insert 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.040 Piro Ramirez, who won a Minor league goal Glove at 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.800 third base last year. He plays second. Those are his 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:32.280 primary positions second and third, great defender, really smart ballplayer. 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.840 And then you're you're entering a point where Matt Shaw 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:41.239 should be going out on a rehab assignment on Wednesday. 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.200 I think we'll find that out officially if it's definitely 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:48.080 happening today at the ballpark, because. 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.920 He played Monday night. Monday night, it looked like he 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:51.560 was packing up. 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.200 Was he okay? So that I think that was. 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:58.520 Kind of my he was planning. Yeah, it were safe 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:00.000 to say. I think he's going to be on rehabit 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.200 simon this week. I mean, yes, exact day you'll be playing. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:05.520 But he's he's on the roadback. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.400 So I mean, I don't I don't want to put 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.680 a timeline on how many games he needs. We'll see 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.280 how many games he needs, how that goes, Assuming that 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.120 goes smoothly, maybe he's back in ten days or so. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:23.920 You have you have a guy that has a was 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.960 a Gold Glove finalist at third base last year, had 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.200 never played the position for an extended period of time 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:35.440 until then, and and quickly took to the position. Uh 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.880 never really played the outfield much quickly took to right 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:43.080 field this year. I've been impressed with his ability to 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:46.040 adapt to any position. He was drafted as a shortstop. 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:48.280 I think a lot of people thought his best position 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.000 would be second base and that he could be Gold 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:54.680 Glove caliber there. He's going to get playing time too 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:59.880 when he comes back, assuming everything goes smoothly with his rehab. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.800 This is a team that, like you, you have to 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.080 commend them for the depth and and like you said, 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:10.720 they didn't they didn't part with Pedro Ramirez. They weren't 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.040 willing to give them up for certainly not for a rental. 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:18.320 I'm sure that there were deals that could have that 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:20.920 could have made sense. They didn't at the time, Like 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.000 it was always too much being asked. It was like 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.920 Pedro Romeiras and like and more. Uh and and they 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:31.560 weren't willing to do that. So so it's working out 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:33.840 for them in the sense that we've talked about this 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.560 for over a year now, kind of Patrick, they've been 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.880 very lucky with the with the position player help. Uh. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:44.760 This is probably one of their longer injuries to a 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:47.720 to a starting position player that they've had in a while, 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:52.320 so uh uh. That sucks for them. But also I 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:56.960 just cannot reinforce any harder that this is They're they're 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.600 really well set up for this. It's it's they've done 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:02.120 a good job building this team, and you've got to 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.359 commend them for the depth that they have. And it 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:09.800 doesn't feel like you're in panic mode when your you know, 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.040 your calling card is your defense and you lose your 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:13.600 stud defensive shortstop. 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:20.359 I was just going to make that point. We as. 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.159 You know, brutal as the pitching injuries have been, on 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:27.880 the position player side, they've been remarkably healthy. I didn't 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:29.480 Counsel even mentioned that going all the way back to 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.280 like last year's winter meetings, like we don't we can't 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:35.879 really count on that again. I want to say it 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.399 was like six or seven guys last year played like 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:41.119 one hundred and fifty plus games something something like that. 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:47.600 Just like really very stable every day lineup and you 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.720 pull out a huge piece, but you have some really 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:50.439 nice players. 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:53.160 You still have flexibility. You saw it Monday night. 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.679 I mean they were I don't know if every single 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.560 position player was used, but it's not like they were 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.479 running out of answers. It always helps to have Pete 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.199 at the top of the lineup, but they still have 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.359 the depth and flexibility, the versatility. 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:14.119 That should keep them in good shape. 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He'd looked great in 0:19:56.200 --> 0:20:01.639 the minors, like the numbers were amazing, the stuff was there, 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:06.520 looked absolutely ready to come in and be the picture 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:10.320 that the Cubs thought they were acquiring over the winter, 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:13.399 a guy that they've targeted for a very long time. 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:18.400 They've had their sights set on him. This pitching infrastructure, 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:19.880 whatever you want to call it, has had a lot 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:24.240 of success stories, so they've earned the trust of Hey, 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.240 we've identified this guy, we want him. We think not 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:31.160 only I think Craig Council said when they acquired him, 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.199 whenever that was when we talked to him maybe Cubs convention, 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.800 he said, we believe we're getting someone who's about to 0:20:38.920 --> 0:20:43.040 take off. I think were his words, it is not 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:47.639 worked out. He had a terrible outing on Sunday. It 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.000 looked bad to me from the get go. There are 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:54.800 a lot of I don't want to go as far 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:57.840 as Tyler Chatwood because the walk rate isn't that high, 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:01.639 but it reminds me of the Darwag first half before 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.480 the elbow issues sunk, where it's just like everything is 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:10.159 at three to two counts. He's just not finishing guys 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:15.280 off long at bats. Just very frustrating to watch, and 0:21:15.760 --> 0:21:18.760 you know the talent is there. And then he exits 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:22.320 I think three and two thirds. Just not a great game, 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.919 per performance, and then after the game says he had 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:32.119 a blister, which Council never mentioned in his postgame presser 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:36.280 until pregame yesterday. On Monday, he talked a little bit 0:21:36.280 --> 0:21:39.800 about it. But now he's on the IL. Javier Asat's 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.600 back back on the IL. Doesn't sound like he's going 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:48.480 to be starting again this season. Just kind of a 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.640 mess of a year, a lost year for Edward Cabrera. 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:59.200 Yeah, and the whole idea was, you know, he come 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:03.480 with three years of club control and that would give 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:07.200 you a buffer in case a lockout goes very long 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:11.000 or if he has a serious arm injury injury. And 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:13.800 this year they've they've kind of burned one of those 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:20.520 years without that, you know, elbow or shoulder flaring up. 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.639 The year started off fairly well. You know, he had 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.200 a couple I want to say, I think he has 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.320 four quality starts as a Cub, and the last one 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:35.879 was like May fourth, something like that, and so like, uh, 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:42.560 it's confusing, to be honest, I think you know, Cabert 0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:45.399 came in with a nice reputation. 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:48.520 He clearly has talent. 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:53.320 Uh, He's had had some really nice stretches with the Marlins. 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:56.520 And you know, that was kind of my point to Craig, 0:22:56.640 --> 0:23:00.760 who I appreciated his honesty as a go in your clubhouse, 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.360 ask you know, pretty much any picture, and they rave 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.480 about the defense, the communication with the coaches, just the 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.600 overall working environment. He's a yeah, it hasn't clicked. He's 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:12.080 a guy wish I could tell you every story of 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:16.080 a success story. This one isn't a paraphrasing Craig there. 0:23:16.119 --> 0:23:19.880 And you know, strangely enough, Agett, the Cubs have worked 0:23:20.160 --> 0:23:24.119 around this, but just the way Sunday came together. 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.080 It was just odd. 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:32.879 You know, someone asked Craig about Carera coming off the 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:37.480 injured list and sort of like getting his footing. He's like, 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:41.240 he's a healthy player, that's why he's activated, and he 0:23:41.240 --> 0:23:42.240 said it's go time. 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:46.560 And I think Edward understands that, and the Cardinals are. 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:52.200 Just on him from the start. You know, maybe there's 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:55.160 a couple plays, difficult plays the Cubs could have made, 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:56.679 and maybe it didn't look quite as bad, but they 0:23:56.720 --> 0:24:00.119 I mean, they just they hit the ball hard. He 0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:06.080 has not been getting results for a long time. Craig 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.480