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Speaker 1: the bonus with Doug Gottlie.

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Speaker 2: What up Fox Sports Radio? And the bonus.

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Speaker 3: Isn't an amazing What championships do do you? What winning

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Speaker 3: does to you? I bring it up because you know,

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Speaker 3: yesterday we spent a lot of time, a lot of

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Speaker 3: radio equity talk about the Tom Brady story where Tom

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Speaker 3: you know, with the coaching calls whatever, and is it

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Speaker 3: a conflict of interest? Should he be allowed to call games?

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Speaker 3: What does Fox think? And then you know, it does

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Speaker 3: sort of mute the fact that he hasn't been particularly

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Speaker 3: good as a broadcast. Better this year, but still not

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Speaker 3: not any not anybody that if on the merits of

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Speaker 3: think that's reasonable. But he's also started just started doing it.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it's one of the things that the

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Speaker 3: that there's a need there to do more games, to

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Speaker 3: get more reps, to be more free to just be

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady and stop being Tom Brady commentator. Tom Brady's

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Speaker 3: trying too hard to be that guy, but it does

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Speaker 3: take time. I don't know if we'll ever get there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he has the ability to be

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Speaker 3: to be. But when you factor in all these things, right,

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Speaker 3: They signed him, he took a year to supposedly prep

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Speaker 3: although it wasn't like he was awesome when he got it.

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Speaker 3: And then you have a conflict of interest that everybody's

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Speaker 3: talking about with the NFL, with your teams. It can

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Speaker 3: hurt your broadcast, hurt your ability to get information, and

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Speaker 3: also potentially, I guess, hurt the Raiders and that he

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Speaker 3: you start to go, like, why why do we even

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Speaker 3: reason is he tom Brady? The reason is he's Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: And the expression in sports is winning cures all ills.

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Speaker 3: But it really, it really does it's completely There's nothing

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Speaker 3: you can say negatively about Tom Brady that will ever

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Speaker 3: stick because end of the day, he's got seven championship

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Speaker 3: Magic Johnson not a particularly good broadcaster, unbelievable businessman, unbelievable

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Speaker 3: NBA player, won four championships.

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Speaker 2: Right, he's magic one NCAA championship.

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Speaker 3: How many opportunities is he as has he gotten that

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Speaker 2: Does them? Coaching? Running the Lakers, broadcasting? Right?

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Speaker 3: All of those are like side hustles because his main

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Speaker 3: hustle is his business enterprise. Why do they keep pushing

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Speaker 3: for because he's magic? Because he won? And I think

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Speaker 3: the second that we admit that that it has nothing

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Speaker 3: It only has to do with whether or not you've won,

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Speaker 3: then you understand. And it doesn't mean that it's the

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Speaker 3: you are, so let's put you back on TV and

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Speaker 3: all you got to do is comment on winning, because

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Speaker 3: you know what winning's like, so you can talk about winning.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to the Foxes.

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Speaker 1: And now what say?

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Speaker 2: Let's get the Foxes.

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Speaker 2: One Show, Here's Dan Patrick.

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Speaker 3: He reached out to the NFL and asked if broadcasters

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Speaker 2: Dan had this to say about that.

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Speaker 4: We ask about a broadcaster sitting in the coaching booth,

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Speaker 4: not about an owner there. Tom is a minority owner,

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Speaker 4: all of this and they don't have to answer anything.

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Speaker 3: Again, we talked about this yesterday. Dan Patrick and I

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Speaker 3: There's lots of stuff he doesn't know about scouting and

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Speaker 5: They're gonna win this division again. And Baker's the reason

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Speaker 6: Get hot are the teams that end up ultimately playing

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Speaker 3: All that's great, but again we can't be in denial

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Speaker 3: Let's find out who's annoying Jason Stewart and now.

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Speaker 1: Because we can.

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