WEBVTT - Chasing My Intellectual Tail

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,

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<v Speaker 2>here's Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>And for the conspiracists out there, just to be clear,

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<v Speaker 3>we have been there before.

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<v Speaker 4>We absolutely have been to the moon. We went there

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<v Speaker 4>in 1969.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, people ask, why is it that it's so

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<v Speaker 5>hard for us to do if we did it way

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<v Speaker 5>back in 1969? And what you have to know is

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<v Speaker 5>we spent 3% of GDP when we did it in 1969,

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<v Speaker 5>almost 3% of GDP.

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<v Speaker 4>So it was very expensive.

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<v Speaker 5>Today, we're going to do it at much lower cost,

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<v Speaker 5>and we're going to this time go to the moon

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<v Speaker 5>to stay.

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<v Speaker 4>It won't just be a mission and leave.

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<v Speaker 5>It'll be a real sustainable lunar base. And that's how

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<v Speaker 5>we'll really explore the moon and find interesting things.

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<v Speaker 6>Brett Baer on Special Report last night did an extended

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<v Speaker 6>interview from the Blue Origin headquarters near Cape Canaveral with

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<v Speaker 6>Jeffrey Bezos.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's the fella. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>The founder of Amazon.com, Blue Origin, and Prometheus, which is

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<v Speaker 6>an interesting company, too.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you what.

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<v Speaker 6>Jeff Bezos needs to do more long-form interviews like that,

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<v Speaker 6>maybe podcasts, maybe the Armstrong and Getty show, and fewer

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<v Speaker 6>photo ops on his yacht with his enhanced-lipped trophy wife.

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<v Speaker 2>And his shirt off.

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<v Speaker 6>Because, well, he had a tight black t-shirt on because

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<v Speaker 6>of course he did, Jack. The aging man who hits

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<v Speaker 6>the gym a lot, outfit of choice.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the point of hitting the gym if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to let people know you're hitting the gym? You're

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<v Speaker 2>not wrong. You are not wrong. But he should do

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<v Speaker 2>more interviews.

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<v Speaker 6>He came off as the sort of guy who invents

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<v Speaker 6>amazingly new, efficient, innovative things. He's relentlessly positive about super imaginative.

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<v Speaker 6>And while he certainly seems to enjoy his wealth, he's

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<v Speaker 6>a perfect example of what Elon Musk talks about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I made a ton of money. Now I'm planning and

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<v Speaker 6>now I'm plowing it all into all this stuff. And

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<v Speaker 6>this stuff's amazing. I mean, his enthusiasm for exploring and

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<v Speaker 6>learning and innovating is just.

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<v Speaker 2>It's awesome to be old, honestly.

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<v Speaker 7>It is kind of interesting, the hatred toward the super-rich,

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<v Speaker 7>when you've got Elon and Bezos, and you could use

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<v Speaker 7>Warren Buffett as an example, lives in his tiny house and.

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<v Speaker 2>Drives an old car.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean.

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<v Speaker 7>The crowd that hates on the billionaires, a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>the most prominent billionaires are so not the kind of

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<v Speaker 7>people that you portray them to be. They're giving back

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<v Speaker 7>to the world in all kinds of different ways. But

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<v Speaker 7>I thought that was interesting. I didn't know we spent 3%

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<v Speaker 7>of our GDP to get to the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And to your point, while he certainly seems to enjoy

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<v Speaker 6>his wealth, he's also put $ 23 billion of his own

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<v Speaker 6>money into Blue Origins. Because he's so excited about space travel.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, one thing I've never completely understood, and maybe

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<v Speaker 7>he speaks to this, maybe he doesn't. So, is he

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<v Speaker 7>in contact with Elon and his plans for the base

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<v Speaker 7>on the moon and getting to Mars? Or NASA? Or

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<v Speaker 7>any of the other entities? Are they all doing this independently? And,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, somebody lands there. Hey, wait a second. I

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<v Speaker 7>was going to land there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, did you? Well, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's funny. I kept waiting for Brett to ask him.

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<v Speaker 6>Talk about what SpaceX and Elon Musk are doing and

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<v Speaker 6>what you think of it and how it meshes with

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<v Speaker 6>what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Or are you coordinating in any way?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's all centered around and coordinated with NASA. They

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<v Speaker 6>have different parts of the puzzle that they're working on,

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<v Speaker 6>from what I understand. But, yeah, I was surprised they

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<v Speaker 6>never got to that because it was the first thing

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<v Speaker 6>that popped into my mind. But, anyway, back to the

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<v Speaker 6>interview with Bezos. We'll play clip number 30. Brett is asking, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>we've been to the moon before.

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<v Speaker 2>Why bother?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm really glad to see the country put their

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<v Speaker 5>energy behind the moon. Look, it's not good to skip steps.

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<v Speaker 5>In general, you don't want to skip steps. And we'll

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<v Speaker 5>go to Mars. We'll do all the other things. But

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<v Speaker 5>we need to go to the moon first. The moon

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<v Speaker 5>is a gift. It's only three days away from Earth.

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<v Speaker 5>You can get there in three days, and you don't

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<v Speaker 5>need to wait for special launch windows. And it has

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<v Speaker 5>all these resources that we can utilize. And it takes

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<v Speaker 5>28 times less energy to lift something off the moon

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<v Speaker 5>because of its lower gravity than it does to lift something.

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<v Speaker 4>Off the Earth.

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<v Speaker 5>So the resources, you know, we're working on, for example,

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<v Speaker 5>building solar cells. We here at Blue Origin are building

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<v Speaker 5>solar cells out of lunar regolith, out of the dirt

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<v Speaker 5>that's on the moon. It's 20% silicon. It's very easy

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<v Speaker 5>to do this. So we can make solar cells on

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<v Speaker 5>the moon. We can make liquid oxygen on the moon,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a rocket propellant. We can find water on

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<v Speaker 5>the moon. There's all sorts of things. And it's a

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<v Speaker 5>natural body, so when we go explore it, there are

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<v Speaker 5>going to be positive surprises.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yes, we should be going to the moon.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad to see that happening, and I'm glad everybody's coming.

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<v Speaker 7>Regolith is a word I became aware of fairly recently.

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<v Speaker 7>That's a big word in the world of getting to

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<v Speaker 7>the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>It means just like the dusty.

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<v Speaker 2>Dirt, right?

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<v Speaker 7>Sharp little dusty rock dirt, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough. I call it gravel on earth.

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<v Speaker 7>But a lot of it is really, well, it's so fine.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess it's a pretty big problem. It's so fine

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<v Speaker 7>to keep it from gunking up everything all the time,

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<v Speaker 7>but it's full of a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Of your dirt.

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<v Speaker 7>The minerals that we're mining here on earth that we

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<v Speaker 7>need to, you know, become super wealthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent, regular knowledge. So a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 6>Number one, the whole, you don't want to skip steps

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<v Speaker 6>was a veiled shot at Elon Musk, I believe, and

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<v Speaker 6>his constant talking about going to Mars.

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<v Speaker 2>But very veiled.

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<v Speaker 6>Second, Elon will challenge to fight him. Jeff, you're one

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<v Speaker 6>of the richest people on earth. Join me in my

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<v Speaker 6>crusade against effing, expressing fractions as multiples. It's 28 times lighter.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you mean 1 28th? I despise that. All right.

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<v Speaker 6>What would be if it's weightless? How would you express that?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. It's just it's idiotic. The things that

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<v Speaker 2>work you up.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, at least I can order my liquid IV and

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<v Speaker 6>get it like the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 6>Then he talks about how their goal is to fly

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<v Speaker 6>every day and make this a super regular thing. All

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<v Speaker 6>reusable components are to the extent that that's conceivable. And

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<v Speaker 6>Brett then asks him about flying constantly.

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<v Speaker 7>So it will happen in our lifetimes where there's just

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<v Speaker 7>there's spaceships taken off every single day, maybe multiple times.

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<v Speaker 7>They maybe it's like Southwest out of Burbank. Going to

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<v Speaker 7>the moon and back. And if you're rich, you can

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<v Speaker 7>go sometime if you want. How cool would that be?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Here he's talking about the question of making lots of

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<v Speaker 6>money and why billionaires are demonized in today's society.

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<v Speaker 2>33, Michael.

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<v Speaker 5>One thing to really think about is that all civilizational wealth,

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<v Speaker 5>draw the box very big, all civilizational wealth comes from invention.

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<v Speaker 5>So 6,000 years ago, somebody invented the plow. And when

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<v Speaker 5>they did, we all got wealthier. And then much later,

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<v Speaker 5>somebody invented the steam engine. And when they did, we

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<v Speaker 5>all got wealthier. And that cycle has continued. And what

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<v Speaker 5>we want to do is speed that up, speed up

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<v Speaker 5>the rate of invention. So use AI to make physical things.

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<v Speaker 5>And we're going to make the tools so easy to

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<v Speaker 5>use that anyone will be able to be an engineer.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I wish we had the clip of?

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<v Speaker 6>He was talking about how you become a billionaire, and

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<v Speaker 6>he gave the example of the Cane's Chicken people. And

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<v Speaker 6>he said, look, they started a chicken restaurant people really liked,

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<v Speaker 6>so they opened up another one, and they really loved that.

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<v Speaker 6>Now they're employing 300 people, and they opened 10 more,

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<v Speaker 6>and people still really love the chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the guy's a billionaire. He says, what in the

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<v Speaker 2>world is wrong with that? Yeah, no kidding. Why would

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<v Speaker 2>you demonize that?

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<v Speaker 6>You're demonizing coming up with chicken people really like to eat?

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<v Speaker 2>What the hell? Well, it's envy. It's the politics of envy.

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<v Speaker 7>And opening stores and paying taxes and hiring people and,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, buying chicken and chairs and paint.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's ridiculous to be against that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you want to start a charity that feeds, clothes,

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<v Speaker 6>and medicates hundreds of families for decades?

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<v Speaker 2>Start a successful business.

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway. I want to know, Jack, if you find this

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<v Speaker 6>at all compelling or comprehensible. Brett is asking him about

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<v Speaker 6>will AI create a labor shortage?

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<v Speaker 4>35, Michael.

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<v Speaker 2>You said AI is going to create a labor shortage.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard you talk about this a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I feel this very strongly.

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<v Speaker 5>What I would say about AI is what's going to

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<v Speaker 5>happen is, again, it's because of the productivity. So because

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<v Speaker 5>of the productivity in the economy, many people are going

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<v Speaker 5>to decide, let's say you have a two-earner income household.

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<v Speaker 5>One of those people is likely, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 5>need to have a two-earner income household.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want to have it, fine, you'll have it.

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<v Speaker 5>But if you don't want to have it, one of

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<v Speaker 5>the people might drop out. Some people will also decide,

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<v Speaker 5>you know what, I can support my family working three

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<v Speaker 5>days a week. That's what productivity in the economy means.

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<v Speaker 5>And so people, I think you're going to have a

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<v Speaker 5>labor shortage. It's going to actually be difficult to hire

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<v Speaker 5>people because the productivity in the economy is going to

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<v Speaker 5>make it so that if people don't want.

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<v Speaker 4>To work two jobs, they won't have to. You hear

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<v Speaker 4>the fear out there, though. Oh, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>On a number of fronts.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The fear about AI and the fear about jobs. Of course.

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<v Speaker 5>And I understand it because a lot of smart people

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<v Speaker 5>are prognosticating that. I just happen to disagree with those

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<v Speaker 5>smart people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>That goes against what society has done over the last

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<v Speaker 7>half century or more.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all living....

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<v Speaker 7>Most everybody's living much wealthier lifestyle. than our parents and

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<v Speaker 7>grandparents did. We didn't decide, you know, a thousand square

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<v Speaker 7>feet and a kind of car ago that this is enough.

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<v Speaker 7>Only one of us will work now. We decided we

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<v Speaker 7>want more. We want a bigger house. We want more cars.

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<v Speaker 7>We want nicer vacations.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't understand. A lot of people have, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people.

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<v Speaker 7>There's plenty of people that could live the way you

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<v Speaker 7>and I, our parents, lived if they wanted to have

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<v Speaker 7>one parent working.

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't want to live that way. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why Jeffrey Bezos.

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<v Speaker 7>Thinks we're going to all of a sudden change into

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<v Speaker 7>human beings where we decide.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got enough. I don't know why that would happen.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a really interesting philosophical point.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's kind of beside his point, though, which

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<v Speaker 6>is that you'll have that option.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm saying you got that option now.

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<v Speaker 6>No, as opposed to massive society ruining unemployment, which is

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<v Speaker 6>what we're always talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>So that on its own, the fact that you've got

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<v Speaker 7>several of the smartest people in the world. Their guesses

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<v Speaker 7>about this and they are guesses are that wildly different

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<v Speaker 7>that there will be nobody will have a job or

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<v Speaker 7>there'll be there won't be enough people to hire.

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<v Speaker 2>There'll be so many jobs. So, yeah, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's right. Somebody's wrong. Brett asks him about government regulation, Michael,

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<v Speaker 2>in 36. So what do you think should happen?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, look, let's back up a bit and look at

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<v Speaker 5>this thing. Regulation is very useful. Government regulation can be

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<v Speaker 5>very useful if it's done in a light way and

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<v Speaker 5>done in a smart way. And where sometimes regulation goes wrong,

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<v Speaker 5>especially when people are.

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<v Speaker 5>Scared, you know, reacting emotionally and so on, is they

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<v Speaker 5>want to try to regulate the underlying thing instead of

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<v Speaker 5>the applications of the thing. And so, you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>simple example I could give you would be, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you don't want to regulate knives, you want to regulate murder. So,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you can use a knife to murder somebody,

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<v Speaker 5>but You don't want to say the solution to that

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<v Speaker 5>is to eliminate knives. You want to say let's make

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<v Speaker 5>and its applications.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I wish everybody believed you. They do regulate knives,

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<v Speaker 2>which is dumb. Yeah, certainly in some settings, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So anyway, he said build orbital data centers if people

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<v Speaker 2>He addresses a lot of different things. Yeah, I want

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<v Speaker 6>To right field, this should do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker is there. The quest for the three-peat rolls on.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dodgers are headed back to the NLCS.

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<v Speaker 7>There you go. Dodgers one step away from another World Series.

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<v Speaker 7>So is it Dodgers-Brewers for the NLCS?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what we got going on here? Indeed, yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be a fun series. And then Ray's, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be Ray's who? White Sox. Oh, no, that series

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<v Speaker 2>is not over yet, right?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't really been following it.

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<v Speaker 7>White Sox are the best story out there. If they

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<v Speaker 7>end up going further, we'll have to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 7>So I got on this topic last night. I've mentioned

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<v Speaker 7>before that I lost my ability to taste sweet because

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<v Speaker 7>of COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>My kids believe.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm lying about this for some reason. I don't know

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<v Speaker 7>why I would make this up. I feel like that

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<v Speaker 7>would make me a crazy person. Seems like an odd

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<v Speaker 7>lie to bother with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't, I don't know why, but, uh, For instance,

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<v Speaker 7>last night we're at the dinner and my son ordered

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<v Speaker 7>something called dragon fruit punch or something like that to drink.

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<v Speaker 7>And he said, oh, this is one of the best

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<v Speaker 7>drinks I've ever had in my life. And I took

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<v Speaker 7>a sip of it. And he said, it's so sweet, though.

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<v Speaker 7>And I said, wow, it's got it's sweet because I

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<v Speaker 7>didn't taste any sweet whatsoever. And it just reminded me

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<v Speaker 7>that I that I can't taste sweet. So I did

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<v Speaker 7>a little research on that. For those of you out

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<v Speaker 7>there who maybe have lost some taste or all of

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<v Speaker 7>your taste. About a third of people who got COVID

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<v Speaker 7>experienced some change in taste.

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<v Speaker 2>About a third.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I lost my taste in art. I just watched

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<v Speaker 6>McHale's Navy all day long. Hey-o!

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. You only listen to Britney Spears now. That's right.

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<v Speaker 7>So about a third of people had some effect of

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<v Speaker 7>their taste when they got COVID, and then about half

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<v Speaker 7>of those.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>had a comp uh.

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<v Speaker 4>uh.

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<v Speaker 7>it continued it didn't go away so about half of

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<v Speaker 7>those it stayed and then of those that it stayed

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<v Speaker 7>it's it's different There's complete loss, like you can't taste anything,

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<v Speaker 7>which was about 28%.

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<v Speaker 2>That would suck.

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<v Speaker 7>I can't even imagine what it would be like to

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<v Speaker 7>not taste anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe it wouldn't suck. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 7>But it would be weird. Can you imagine putting food

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<v Speaker 7>in your mouth and it has no flavor or anything

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<v Speaker 7>you drink? It would just be weird.

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<v Speaker 6>To lose any of your senses does not sound like

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<v Speaker 6>a good thing.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 7>And then about a third of those, this is of

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<v Speaker 7>people who lost taste, which is a third. And then

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<v Speaker 7>about half of those, it was permanent. And then, so

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<v Speaker 7>it goes down there. And so distorted versus losing it completely.

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<v Speaker 7>And then only about half of those, you're breaking it

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<v Speaker 7>down even further, ever get it back. And the doctor

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<v Speaker 7>told me I'm probably never going to get it back.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll never taste sweet again in my life. 40% lost sweet.

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<v Speaker 7>This doesn't add up right, but 71% lost salty. That

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<v Speaker 7>was a more common one.

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<v Speaker 2>32% lost bitter.

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<v Speaker 7>22% lost sour. And we got into a discussion last night.

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<v Speaker 7>What would be the worst or the least bad? I

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<v Speaker 7>think losing salty would be horrible. First of all, what

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<v Speaker 7>I have learned from losing sweet, everybody tells me, oh,

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<v Speaker 7>I wish that would happen to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I thought that too, but it's the opposite. You

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<v Speaker 2>eat more sweets.

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<v Speaker 7>Your brain wants sweet or we need sweet or something

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<v Speaker 7>like that. And my brain doesn't feel like I'm getting

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<v Speaker 7>any sweet. So I eat more. I want more donuts

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<v Speaker 7>and stuff like that than I ever did before. Would

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<v Speaker 7>that happen with salty? Probably the same. You need a

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<v Speaker 7>certain amount of salt. You'd just be eating bags of

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<v Speaker 7>potato chips or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that wouldn't be great. No, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 6>Which would your least? Sour, bitter, salty, or sweet? How

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<v Speaker 6>about umami? Because that's one of the tastes, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>They now say. I don't know what that is. Gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I've never thought about it. It's a strange question and off-putting.

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<v Speaker 6>I refuse to answer.

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<v Speaker 7>That's an odd stance. I don't have the slightest idea.

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<v Speaker 7>I think loose and salty would be horrible. Yeah, would

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<v Speaker 7>probably lead to bad things, I would guess. Just have

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<v Speaker 7>a mound of salt on top of everything you eat,

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<v Speaker 7>trying to get some salt.

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<v Speaker 6>This segment brought to you by Dr. Fauci's House of

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<v Speaker 2>Fauci. Excellent point.

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<v Speaker 6>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 7>So I heard the tease of this story last night.

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<v Speaker 7>I haven't actually heard the story. So that scumbag woman

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<v Speaker 7>in Tennessee who they tried to euthanize, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't pull it off. Execute. Yeah. And she's still alive.

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<v Speaker 7>She woke up and she spoke her first words. And

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<v Speaker 7>I can only assume her first words were, where's that phlebotomist?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to kill him.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But this new story will have the actual first words.

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<v Speaker 9>Our understanding was the first thing she said was, where

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<v Speaker 9>am I and who are you? There's still a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of cognitive confusion.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I will say that.

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<v Speaker 9>She has wanted to know what's happened, and she's asked

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<v Speaker 9>about several people.

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<v Speaker 4>She's asked about her team.

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<v Speaker 9>She's asked about the victim's family. I think she is

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<v Speaker 9>angry and confused about everything right now.

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<v Speaker 2>She asked about the victim's family. Give me a break.

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<v Speaker 2>That's her lawyer. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't trust these guys.

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<v Speaker 7>Trying to argue that they shouldn't try to kill her

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<v Speaker 7>again or that she shouldn't be killed at all. And

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<v Speaker 7>then the other side, I heard that lawyer say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>we're absolutely going to try again to execute her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I got a little bit into, I didn't go very

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<v Speaker 7>far into the actual crime she committed that got her

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<v Speaker 7>onto death row.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty, pretty horrific.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's something I did not know till yesterday. Because there

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<v Speaker 7>was an attempt to portray it. this as she is

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<v Speaker 7>18 when she committed the crime. That's a long time

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<v Speaker 7>she was gone. You know, she was young and blah, blah, blah.

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<v Speaker 7>She in the not that long ago, 2004, when she

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<v Speaker 7>was not an 18 year old, tried to kill somebody

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<v Speaker 7>in prison.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Hadn't heard that. Yeah. Attacked someone and tried to kill

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<v Speaker 2>him in prison.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's not really the way you act if you're,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, you're just on drugs and out the off

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<v Speaker 7>the rails and you had a horrible upbringing, which she did.

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<v Speaker 2>And you've turned yourself around. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know where I go back and forth a

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<v Speaker 7>little bit on the death penalty. My main thing being, though,

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<v Speaker 7>it doesn't bother me.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, of all the things there are to worry

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<v Speaker 7>about in the world, I'm not going to spend a

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<v Speaker 7>tremendous amount of time on that one. Assuming they've gone

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<v Speaker 7>through all the procedures which we do to make sure

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<v Speaker 7>everybody's guilty. The expense of it, though, it is, even

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<v Speaker 7>in California, it's ridiculous. The fact that we do the

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<v Speaker 7>whole death penalty thing in California the way we do

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<v Speaker 7>and put up with it as taxpayers, what a racket

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<v Speaker 7>that is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what it is. It's a scam.

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<v Speaker 7>And nobody ever gets executed. But even in states where

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<v Speaker 7>they do eventually execute people, I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 7>make the argument that we come out ahead. What is

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<v Speaker 7>the goal of the death penalty for most people? Do

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<v Speaker 7>you mean the purpose of it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it deterrence?

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<v Speaker 6>The person ends up dead is obviously the goal. No,

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<v Speaker 6>that's putting it very plainly. As a society, what is

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<v Speaker 6>the point? Is it deterrence? Is it justice?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it... What is it? It's practically useless as deterrent.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I've always thought. That's what I've always thought. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there are actually.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, psychologists have studied deterrence now, and we have

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<v Speaker 6>a pretty decent understanding. And the certainty of the sanction

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<v Speaker 6>is an enormous factor in whether something's a deterrent or not.

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<v Speaker 6>And the idea that, yes, I will be caught, I

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<v Speaker 6>will be arrested, I will be tried, I will be convicted,

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<v Speaker 6>I will be sentenced to death, and that will actually

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<v Speaker 6>be carried out is hilariously low, the odds of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a.

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<v Speaker 6>Combination of retribution, alleged deterrence, and deterrence. That person shouldn't

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<v Speaker 6>be around to hurt any more people. They've lost their

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<v Speaker 6>pass for life. Yeah, I'm anti-death penalty at this point

0:22:13.869 --> 0:22:15.810
<v Speaker 6>in my life. I was pro most of my life,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think it's just a whole bunch of things

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<v Speaker 6>added up to enough for me to be against it personally.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of it being the whole retribution thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think that's healthy for a society to think

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<v Speaker 7>that we're going to get some sort of positive feeling

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<v Speaker 7>or outcome or whatever out of snuffing the person. I

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<v Speaker 7>just don't think that's healthy for an individual or a society.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, and I'm perfectly fine if you disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand why you disagree. I don't have.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not out of compassion for these people that I...

0:22:55.180 --> 0:22:58.260
<v Speaker 7>And then, again, for me, it's just all of them

0:22:58.340 --> 0:23:00.159
<v Speaker 7>added together because I got a certain percentage of I

0:23:00.180 --> 0:23:02.680
<v Speaker 7>don't think it's good for society to think that we'll

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<v Speaker 7>feel better once they're dead. I don't think that's good

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.419
<v Speaker 7>for us. Then you add that in with, should the

0:23:07.460 --> 0:23:11.280
<v Speaker 7>state be taking a life? And then, you know, and

0:23:11.300 --> 0:23:13.260
<v Speaker 7>then a couple other things. And for me, I get

0:23:13.300 --> 0:23:17.950
<v Speaker 7>over 50% of the cost as taxpayers since it's just ridiculous.

0:23:18.530 --> 0:23:19.190
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I've been chasing my intellectual tail on this topic since

0:23:22.470 --> 0:23:25.369
<v Speaker 6>I was, you know, a teenager. I've thought about it

0:23:25.390 --> 0:23:27.130
<v Speaker 6>and thought about it and thought about it, and I just,

0:23:27.230 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 6>I'm not... I don't feel strongly in either direction, honestly.

0:23:31.940 --> 0:23:34.119
<v Speaker 6>The people who are taking time bombs and a constant

0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:37.320
<v Speaker 6>danger to prison guards, for instance, they're dead enders, they're psychopaths,

0:23:38.060 --> 0:23:42.450
<v Speaker 6>and it's almost impossible to safely contain them and keep

0:23:42.490 --> 0:23:43.010
<v Speaker 6>them alive.

0:23:44.470 --> 0:23:46.930
<v Speaker 2>Those guys. I wonder how many of those people are.

0:23:47.550 --> 0:23:52.090
<v Speaker 2>Say goodnight. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, it's

0:23:52.170 --> 0:23:52.609
<v Speaker 2>a tough one.

0:23:52.630 --> 0:23:56.430
<v Speaker 6>You know, you could look at human history, and execution's

0:23:56.470 --> 0:24:00.160
<v Speaker 6>been absolutely everywhere all the time, practically, in human history.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in human history, I'd say mostly poorly done. Yes,

0:24:05.460 --> 0:24:06.020
<v Speaker 2>and I would agree.

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<v Speaker 6>And if I was going to become an anti-death penalty activist,

0:24:08.820 --> 0:24:12.149
<v Speaker 6>which is unlikely because there are about 137 causes in

0:24:12.210 --> 0:24:15.430
<v Speaker 6>front of it in line, I would point out, so

0:24:15.570 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 6>the same people who run the DMV and... run the

0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.500
<v Speaker 6>welfare systems that are constantly defrauded and are supposed to

0:24:21.540 --> 0:24:23.620
<v Speaker 6>be fixing the roads, and then they raise the taxes

0:24:23.700 --> 0:24:26.810
<v Speaker 6>over and over again, and they never fix the effing roads, blah, blah, blah.

0:24:27.150 --> 0:24:28.750
<v Speaker 2>They're in charge of taking a life?

0:24:29.030 --> 0:24:30.510
<v Speaker 4>Huh? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>On the other hand, again, That's a pretty good point

0:24:35.250 --> 0:24:38.090
<v Speaker 7>right there. You might add another few percent to my

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<v Speaker 7>why we shouldn't do it. So the people that come

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<v Speaker 7>up with the idea of a bullet train, for instance,

0:24:45.090 --> 0:24:48.830
<v Speaker 7>or handled COVID the way they did, all those people,

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<v Speaker 7>they're supposed to be in charge of whether or not

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:51.930
<v Speaker 7>we take lives.

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<v Speaker 6>Boy, the COVID one. Oof, you hit me right in

0:24:54.660 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 6>the midsection. Ooh, like about a COVID.

0:24:57.100 --> 0:24:59.219
<v Speaker 7>But a lot of you really hate us saying this,

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<v Speaker 7>or me in particular, saying I'm mostly... If I had

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<v Speaker 7>to pick one, I'd be against it.

0:25:04.540 --> 0:25:09.260
<v Speaker 2>And I would have been more. Go ahead.

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 6>Sorry.

0:25:09.660 --> 0:25:11.940
<v Speaker 2>I would have been in your position when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no.

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<v Speaker 7>And like I said yesterday, I'm not worried about it.

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.369
<v Speaker 7>You got somebody that's gone through the whole process of

0:25:18.460 --> 0:25:20.550
<v Speaker 7>appeals and they're guilty right now. I can flip the switch,

0:25:21.310 --> 0:25:23.690
<v Speaker 7>pull the trigger, whatever it is today and have no

0:25:23.730 --> 0:25:24.230
<v Speaker 7>problem with it.

0:25:24.510 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't care about them being dead at all. So

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:31.180
<v Speaker 2>it's not bad. Wow, I see. I could not say that.

0:25:31.619 --> 0:25:31.879
<v Speaker 4>Really?

0:25:31.900 --> 0:25:34.900
<v Speaker 7>Well, I think I could. Maybe I'm lying to myself,

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:38.820
<v Speaker 7>but I think I could. I don't know. How are

0:25:38.840 --> 0:25:41.270
<v Speaker 7>we killing them in this scenario? So I can actually

0:25:41.310 --> 0:25:41.810
<v Speaker 7>imagine it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got it. To be fair, I'll let you choose. Well,

0:25:45.470 --> 0:25:47.850
<v Speaker 2>usually it's lethal injection in the modern world, right? Okay,

0:25:47.869 --> 0:25:50.169
<v Speaker 2>fair enough. Could I push the plunger? Hell yeah. And

0:25:50.250 --> 0:25:51.929
<v Speaker 2>not even think about it again the rest of the day,

0:25:52.030 --> 0:25:56.909
<v Speaker 2>I think. Well, okay. All right, great. I disagree. If

0:25:56.950 --> 0:25:58.030
<v Speaker 2>I've read about their crime.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure. I got somebody who committed a horrific crime of

0:26:01.730 --> 0:26:06.119
<v Speaker 6>passion 35 years ago, and they now look back at

0:26:06.150 --> 0:26:08.540
<v Speaker 6>that time the way I look back at being 18.

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:11.660
<v Speaker 6>I know it happened to me, but it seems like

0:26:11.700 --> 0:26:14.700
<v Speaker 6>it happened to somebody else. And they say, I'm at

0:26:14.780 --> 0:26:17.780
<v Speaker 6>peace now. I've apologized to the victims. I think God

0:26:17.820 --> 0:26:20.149
<v Speaker 6>has forgiven me. I'm ready for this. And as the

0:26:20.190 --> 0:26:22.170
<v Speaker 6>light goes out of their eyes, you wouldn't think about

0:26:22.210 --> 0:26:22.810
<v Speaker 6>that ever again.

0:26:22.869 --> 0:26:26.889
<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't affect you. I wonder how often that is

0:26:26.930 --> 0:26:27.290
<v Speaker 2>the case.

0:26:29.550 --> 0:26:32.790
<v Speaker 6>Well, it takes an enormously long time to execute anybody

0:26:32.830 --> 0:26:36.189
<v Speaker 6>in this country. So I think it's the case a lot.

0:26:37.190 --> 0:26:39.399
<v Speaker 6>But certainly not universally. I mean, I can think of

0:26:39.470 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 6>exceptions to that. I mean, people who commit especially horrific,

0:26:43.340 --> 0:26:45.619
<v Speaker 6>brutal crimes and rapes and that sort of thing, I'd

0:26:45.660 --> 0:26:47.199
<v Speaker 6>be like, you know, this is a heavy thing and

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:49.439
<v Speaker 6>it's an awful thing and a sad thing, but it's

0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:50.220
<v Speaker 6>got to happen.

0:26:50.300 --> 0:26:51.510
<v Speaker 2>And I could live with it.

0:26:51.700 --> 0:26:54.230
<v Speaker 7>If I was going to say something provocative... In an

0:26:54.310 --> 0:26:57.669
<v Speaker 7>argumentative way, I would say... Not in talk radio. I

0:26:57.690 --> 0:27:00.060
<v Speaker 7>would think, I would say anybody who says they couldn't

0:27:00.100 --> 0:27:02.220
<v Speaker 7>do it themselves should be against the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 6>Hmm.

0:27:05.840 --> 0:27:09.679
<v Speaker 2>Not sure I agree with that one either. If you

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:13.010
<v Speaker 2>couldn't do it, then that means you don't think it's something?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know.

0:27:13.970 --> 0:27:16.590
<v Speaker 2>I'd have to think about this to form my argument.

0:27:16.690 --> 0:27:21.130
<v Speaker 2>It's a great discussion. It's a great philosophical discussion.

0:27:22.619 --> 0:27:27.060
<v Speaker 6>But I suspect very strongly, as I have as an individual,

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 6>we will chase our tails for a very long time

0:27:28.980 --> 0:27:31.900
<v Speaker 6>and not come to anything close to a conclusion. Although

0:27:32.020 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 6>conclusions aren't the point of discussions like this.

0:27:34.020 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 2>It's to think.

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<v Speaker 7>As a society, though, we have decided, for now, that

0:27:38.869 --> 0:27:40.939
<v Speaker 7>it's okay if your state's okay with it.

0:27:41.730 --> 0:27:42.210
<v Speaker 2>Well, right.

0:27:42.270 --> 0:27:44.350
<v Speaker 6>I was going to say it varies very much state

0:27:44.390 --> 0:27:46.650
<v Speaker 6>by state. And even in states that, quote, unquote, have

0:27:46.670 --> 0:27:50.050
<v Speaker 6>the death penalty, as you pointed out, often it doesn't happen.

0:27:49.770 --> 0:27:53.389
<v Speaker 2>Because they're secretly really against it. And they just want

0:27:53.410 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 2>to win rich, dry lawyers in the case of California.

0:27:56.260 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, how many people who are for the death penalty

0:28:00.460 --> 0:28:03.700
<v Speaker 7>are only for it because they're part of the multi-million

0:28:03.740 --> 0:28:06.950
<v Speaker 7>dollar industry that benefits from it, knowing not many people

0:28:06.970 --> 0:28:08.530
<v Speaker 7>are going to get snuffed and those that do, what

0:28:08.550 --> 0:28:08.970
<v Speaker 7>do I care?

0:28:09.130 --> 0:28:11.929
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're incredibly cynical. Oh, yeah, it's tens of

0:28:11.950 --> 0:28:16.109
<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars at stake. Oh, my God. It's not

0:28:16.150 --> 0:28:18.750
<v Speaker 2>like there's a lot of raw materials involved.

0:28:18.990 --> 0:28:22.140
<v Speaker 6>We've got to get paper pulp and combine that with

0:28:22.900 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 6>soybeans and rubberized.

0:28:26.859 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 2>No, it's all going to lawyers.

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:29.719
<v Speaker 4>All of it.

0:28:30.260 --> 0:28:32.460
<v Speaker 2>Except the court clerks and the judge.

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<v Speaker 7>You made a point that I often make, although I'd

0:28:34.950 --> 0:28:37.750
<v Speaker 7>never made it around the death penalty before. One thing

0:28:37.770 --> 0:28:39.630
<v Speaker 7>that has happened to me as I've gotten older is

0:28:39.730 --> 0:28:41.630
<v Speaker 7>at this point in my life, and I don't know

0:28:41.670 --> 0:28:43.530
<v Speaker 7>if it happens this way for everyone, but for me.

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:46.700
<v Speaker 2>Things that happened when I was.

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:50.370
<v Speaker 7>Younger, including like my 20s and even 30s.

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:28:51.660 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 7>Are like I read a short story about them. And

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 7>I was the person. That's the way it feels as

0:28:58.260 --> 0:28:58.820
<v Speaker 7>a memory.

0:28:59.260 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 4>Yes.

0:28:59.820 --> 0:29:03.190
<v Speaker 7>It's like it didn't even, I only know about it

0:29:03.230 --> 0:29:05.950
<v Speaker 7>because it's in my head as a story I read.

0:29:06.450 --> 0:29:09.190
<v Speaker 7>But I was the person. That's the way the memory feels.

0:29:09.860 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 7>I can't remember what.

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.420
<v Speaker 6>Age Churchill cited, but he has a famous quote where

0:29:14.440 --> 0:29:18.270
<v Speaker 6>he says, look upon a picture of yourself as an 11-year-old.

0:29:18.370 --> 0:29:21.770
<v Speaker 6>You have absolutely nothing in common with that person except

0:29:21.790 --> 0:29:24.530
<v Speaker 6>that you are the same person. And that's the way

0:29:24.570 --> 0:29:27.470
<v Speaker 6>the memories feel sometimes. Sure, yeah.

0:29:28.370 --> 0:29:31.510
<v Speaker 2>Here's the deal. I could make what I.

0:29:31.530 --> 0:29:34.510
<v Speaker 6>Believe would be a very powerful and persuasive argument in

0:29:34.670 --> 0:29:37.630
<v Speaker 6>favor of the death penalty and one every bit as

0:29:37.670 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 6>robust against it. Um, and mean every word of all

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 6>of them.

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 2>That's where I am.

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:48.330
<v Speaker 6>And I think if I'm if I lean against it, ultimately,

0:29:48.510 --> 0:29:53.950
<v Speaker 6>it's out of a founding fathers are my heroes, as

0:29:54.090 --> 0:29:57.810
<v Speaker 6>are a lot of the great thinkers of liberty throughout history.

0:29:58.950 --> 0:30:00.150
<v Speaker 2>I mistrust the government.

0:30:00.850 --> 0:30:04.680
<v Speaker 6>I want the government to have as limited powers as possible,

0:30:05.020 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 6>and I want those powers to be scrutinized constantly as

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 6>they exercise them. And to give them the ultimate power

0:30:10.740 --> 0:30:14.020
<v Speaker 6>makes me uncomfortable. But I totally get people who are like, oh,

0:30:14.100 --> 0:30:15.220
<v Speaker 6>all right, this guy, look what he did.

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Look what he did. Jury of his peers, over and over,

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.740
<v Speaker 2>they said he did this. Get rid of him. Yeah,

0:30:19.870 --> 0:30:23.590
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you now. The libertarian position is generally against, right?

0:30:24.730 --> 0:30:25.110
<v Speaker 4>Yes, correct.

0:30:25.130 --> 0:30:26.650
<v Speaker 2>Because the government shouldn't have that power?

0:30:26.670 --> 0:30:27.450
<v Speaker 4>Mm-hmm.

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 2>All right. That makes sense to me also.

0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:29.740
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Speaking of crime.

0:30:31.220 --> 0:30:33.430
<v Speaker 6>So a picture of this, your phone rings, it's your

0:30:33.450 --> 0:30:35.790
<v Speaker 6>bank calling you and they know everything about you. Like

0:30:35.810 --> 0:30:38.230
<v Speaker 6>your bank does last four years, social, the rest of it.

0:30:38.260 --> 0:30:41.390
<v Speaker 6>It's totally legit. Except it's not. It's not your bank.

0:30:41.510 --> 0:30:44.070
<v Speaker 6>It's a scammer who bought all of that info from

0:30:44.270 --> 0:30:45.330
<v Speaker 6>a data broker.

0:30:45.790 --> 0:30:49.130
<v Speaker 7>Man, your name, your address, the last four of your social,

0:30:49.690 --> 0:30:52.270
<v Speaker 7>all that sort of situation that somebody could hit you

0:30:52.310 --> 0:30:55.230
<v Speaker 7>with and convince you that, oh, okay, well, this is legit.

0:30:55.690 --> 0:30:57.540
<v Speaker 7>The fact that it's floating around out there and for

0:30:57.600 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 7>sale really sucks. That's why I'm using Incogni. Incogni sends

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0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.520
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0:31:07.540 --> 0:31:07.990
<v Speaker 7>you back in.

0:31:08.860 --> 0:31:11.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it is really fantastic. You could never accomplish this

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:12.740
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0:31:12.780 --> 0:31:15.900
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0:31:28.290 --> 0:31:32.310
<v Speaker 7>Certainly the Tennessee woman has brought the conversation back again,

0:31:32.570 --> 0:31:33.690
<v Speaker 7>the whole death penalty thing.

0:31:34.150 --> 0:31:36.970
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just throwing this out as a text line question.

0:31:37.270 --> 0:31:37.710
<v Speaker 2>Could you.

0:31:38.370 --> 0:31:42.570
<v Speaker 7>Pull the trigger, push the plunger, pull the thing. I'm

0:31:42.610 --> 0:31:45.050
<v Speaker 7>picturing the electric chair. That one would be a little hard.

0:31:45.090 --> 0:31:47.610
<v Speaker 2>Does it make a noise? It makes a hell of

0:31:47.630 --> 0:31:49.830
<v Speaker 2>a lot of noise, yeah. Can I be in another room?

0:31:51.410 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>But could you do that? Text line 415.

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 7>Go ahead, sorry. Text line 415-295-KFTC.

0:31:58.860 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>In particular, a.

0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:06.970
<v Speaker 6>Woman who committed the horrific crimes when she was 18...

0:32:06.970 --> 0:32:10.980
<v Speaker 6>the victim of repeated rape and abuse as a child,

0:32:11.580 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 6>a twisted psyche, clearly.

0:32:15.000 --> 0:32:16.140
<v Speaker 2>Could you do.

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 4>It to her?

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 2>And I'm not saying nobody could. A lot of you could.

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 6>But that's the case we're talking about, so we might

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:25.300
<v Speaker 6>as well go into the particulars.

0:32:26.110 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 7>But then I am okay with locking her in a

0:32:27.990 --> 0:32:30.020
<v Speaker 7>dank cell for the rest of her life with no

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:30.620
<v Speaker 7>freedom whatsoever.

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:31.500
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't need to be dank.

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 6>It can be perfectly well lit and dry. What are you,

0:32:35.620 --> 0:32:38.140
<v Speaker 6>the Count of Monte Cristo over here? You got men

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:39.300
<v Speaker 6>in iron masks in.

0:32:39.260 --> 0:32:44.070
<v Speaker 2>Your world or what? I want dankness.

0:32:44.750 --> 0:32:45.110
<v Speaker 4>Beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Be interested to see these texts. Stay tuned. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>After prison officials botched execution attempts, convicted murderer Christophe Pike

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<v Speaker 3>is now conscious and talking. Doctors say her condition has

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<v Speaker 3>just been upgraded from brain dead to Jasmine Crockett. Although,

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<v Speaker 3>the death row inmate did receive a card from the governor.

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<v Speaker 2>It said, get well soon. So we can try and

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<v Speaker 2>kill you again. Which is accurate. I mean, that is exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing our best.

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<v Speaker 7>We have the best doctors on this so we can

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<v Speaker 7>get you healthy enough and up and around so we

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<v Speaker 7>can kill you.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 6>You'll be receiving all sorts of brain counseling and rehab

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<v Speaker 6>and everything. So you understand exactly what's happening. Then we'll

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<v Speaker 6>snuff you again.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got a pretty big debate in Michigan tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>El Sayed, the Islamo-fascist, I think, candidate who's pretending to

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<v Speaker 7>be a socialist running as a Democrat against Mike Rogers.

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<v Speaker 4>They're debating.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be a good debate.

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<v Speaker 7>And then this weekend, Lindsey Graham's sister is debating that

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<v Speaker 7>other woman, Dr.

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<v Speaker 2>Annie Andrews.

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<v Speaker 7>And that race is within the margin of error. Most

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<v Speaker 7>people think because of South Carolina's history that Ms. Graham

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<v Speaker 7>will still pull it out, but it's a lot closer

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<v Speaker 7>than it ought to be. And people keep saying, well,

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<v Speaker 7>it's been close in the past, and Lindsey Graham always

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<v Speaker 7>pulled it out. Yeah, Lindsey Graham was Lindsey Graham. His

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<v Speaker 7>sister is not Lindsey Graham. Wall Street Journal's article about this,

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<v Speaker 7>on July 30th, this column, says the Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 2>Stressed that endorsements.

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<v Speaker 7>of Lindsey Graham's sister, riskiness, and noted several unanswered questions.

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<v Speaker 7>Among them, might she, meaning Ms. Graham, get in front

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<v Speaker 7>of a news camera or on a debate stage and

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<v Speaker 7>bungle so badly that an adversary features her in an ad,

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<v Speaker 7>and so it came to pass? There are ads out

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<v Speaker 7>there from her opponent that feature this moment from the

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<v Speaker 7>last debate.

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<v Speaker 8>Senator, are Taiwan and the South China Sea national security

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<v Speaker 8>issues for the United States?

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<v Speaker 4>If so, why? Um.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sorry, could you repeat the question? Are Taiwan and

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<v Speaker 8>the South China Sea national security issues for the United States?

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<v Speaker 8>And if so, why or how? I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 8>be honest here. I'm not on national security. I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>that informed on national security. But I do support the military.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, as the Wall Street Journal said, Ms. Graham couldn't

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<v Speaker 7>so much as fudge an answer to a question on Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 7>National security is not my thing, she said. I think

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<v Speaker 7>that's disqualifying, but you know, you do, it is a

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<v Speaker 7>binary choice. And that other one has got all kinds

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<v Speaker 7>of wacky socialist, big government, Medicare for everyone positions, so.

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<v Speaker 7>It'll be interesting to see. Now, the question is, can Ms.

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<v Speaker 7>Graham get out of the debate this weekend without taking

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<v Speaker 7>another giant step backwards?

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<v Speaker 6>I think she's probably bright enough to have studied up

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<v Speaker 6>on the things that matter and be able to at

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<v Speaker 6>least fake answers, I would hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. She hasn't shown her face in a month

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<v Speaker 2>and a half. No, she's not campaigning at all.

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<v Speaker 7>She didn't answer any questions from the Wall Street Journal

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<v Speaker 7>or any reporters.

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<v Speaker 6>No, she has no offense. So I can't get past

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<v Speaker 6>the fact that if Trump stayed out of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 6>or at least had just an even hand and asked

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<v Speaker 6>people who know more about the state... It's up to

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<v Speaker 6>the people of South Carolina to make the decision. There's

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<v Speaker 6>not a single chance the Republicans would lose the Senate.

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<v Speaker 6>Not a chance. It's Trump's meddling in South Carolina, in Texas,

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<v Speaker 6>and in a couple other places in North Carolina... running

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<v Speaker 6>great incumbents who are moderates and maybe didn't kiss his

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<v Speaker 6>ass thoroughly enough. That's the only reason the Republicans risk

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<v Speaker 6>losing the Senate. And it annoys the hell out of me.

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<v Speaker 7>The fact that she's not campaigning at all, won't even

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<v Speaker 7>talk to the Wall Street Journal about this article or

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<v Speaker 7>anything else is not good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sad.

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<v Speaker 6>She was the classic, we're going to pick somebody to

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<v Speaker 6>fill the term who has no interest in running for

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<v Speaker 6>the office so then we can approach this. And then

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<v Speaker 6>Trump said, I think she ought to keep the job.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody in South Carolina said, oh my God, what do

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<v Speaker 6>we do now?

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