WEBVTT - Marlins Looking Like Sellers During Epic 2nd-Half Slump 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:02.880 Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to fish 0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:03.440 On First. 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:39.400 The misery continues for the Miami Marlins. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.920 Fish On First live on the Foul Territory Network, presented 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.519 by jet Ski Rentals of South Florida. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.000 Usually, guys, we try to find the positives and I'm 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:50.040 not going to say that there's none. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.480 There there is, but the shadow hanging over this team 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.560 is it's too too gloomy and too dark to ignore. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:57.400 We're gonna talk about it. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:00:59.960 I'll talk about all these new ways that the Marlins 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.720 finding to lose and what has become a twelve game 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:07.680 losing streak franchise record, twelve game losing streak, beating their 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.160 previous record of eleven in twenty eleven. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.600 Where does this team go? I guess there's nowhere to 0:01:13.640 --> 0:01:15.360 go but up right, But. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.640 Yeah, a twelve game losing streak, including today game that 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.920 they look to have in hand after you're after a 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:25.559 good pitching performance, starting pitching indus series was actually good. 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:28.440 That's about the only thing that was consistently good in 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:32.000 this series. We'll talk about the rest of the bad ury. 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.240 Yesterday was good. Starting pitching to say wasn't bad. 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:36.120 Gusta even wasn't bad, but they found a way to 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.120 lose all three games against the San Diego Padres to 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.760 fall under five hundred, and it's looking more and more 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:44.399 like they're going to be sellers. 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:48.040 As the days go on. Tough to say the least. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.000 You know, I think I can only talk for all 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.440 of us when I say that we're with you guys. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.160 We know that this is We had a high hopes, 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:01.200 especially after June, but July has been a unbridled mess 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.080 for the Marlins. We'll go through it game by game 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.680 starting today. I'll go backwards, of course, as we always do. 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.000 I mean, a good start, actually a really good start 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.080 to this game for the Marlins. 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:16.200 They've they've looked to have it in hand. Things looked 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:17.200 looked pretty. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.639 Good all the way up until what the fifth or 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.399 sixth inning, I think it was, where they just kind 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:26.000 of unraveled. It really wasn't terrible at all by your 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.240 starting pitcher, as I noted before, Jansen junkin this one. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.800 You gave a lot of hits but didn't walk. 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:33.240 Anybody, which is a huge plus for him, and pitched 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.000 into the fifth inning, actually almost got out of the 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.240 fifth inning. We'll talk about what happened after that, But yeah, 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:39.959 I thought that this was good for Junk, who was 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.120 struggling coming into this one. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:43.520 Kevin, go ahead, just we'll start with the positive. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.200 I guess this is about all you can ask for 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:48.840 out of Jansen Junk, you know, as he as he 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:51.520 continues to hold down a rotation spot. I thought this 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:53.440 was obviously a step forward for him, and he gave 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.200 the team a chance to win. Obviously they threw it away, 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.440 but a lot of hits, only the one run though, 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:58.680 six strikeouts, no walks. 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:00.600 Talk about him first go ahead. 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:03.680 Yeah, it was a short hook for Junk, regardless of 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.160 hypat it got into the fifth, didn't even finish the fifth. 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.880 But unfortunately, when he's been pitching the way that he 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.639 has recently, you have to do that. I didn't watch 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.600 too much of Junks start, but he did. As you 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.720 guys noticed, he did keep him minute, and that's that's 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.359 all you could ask for at this point, at this rate, 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.200 with how the season is going, it definitely seemed like 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.000 not a desperation move, but definitely a quicker hook for 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.920 him than than usual. I watched him in Houston and 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.160 he went I think four or five innings in that start, 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:31.720 and at this point you just gotta do what you 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.240 gotta do in term to see if you could go 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.760 with your best relievers. Unfortunately, it was a weird situation 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.400 where they went with Peterson got hit in the arm. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.320 I do believe he was gonna go out there for 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:43.280 the six is what Clayton said postgame. So for anyone 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.760 trying to think that Clayon's bullpen management is his dad, 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.240 I don't think it was in this case. It's just 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.240 an unfortunate situation where Peterson got hit in the arm 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.320 and definitely got to take priority to create the X rays. 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.000 Everything was good, so he should be fine. And yeah, 0:03:57.080 --> 0:03:59.360 Junk was good, solid, much better than what we've seen 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.240 the last couple of arts. And certainly you were looking 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.160 at a point where you're thinking that maybe Junk isn't 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.680 supposed to be a starter, maybe not fit enough for it. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.360 But I guess to a certain extent, it proved some 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.760 people wrong or at least made his case to remain 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.040 in their rotation moving forward. 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.920 Yeah, I think did enough, but I would agree with 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:18.640 that thought. Maybe he could have at least finished that 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:22.680 fifth inning. You know, I know he really didn't help 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:24.760 his case with the traffic Kell out on the basis, 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.719 but I don't think he was bad after that. Oh boy, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:29.960 as you noted, Kevin, they go to Peterson, you only 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.039 gets the one out because he gets hit by a pitch. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:34.960 After that, it's Gibson for the lefties, which was good. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.720 Zoober bounces back with the scoreless inning, which was good. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:42.880 And then Baker, who had been pitching decently until this 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:47.960 comes in and man, it's not good. Five hits, four 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.240 earned runs, does get two strikeouts or I'm sorry, two 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:54.120 home runs, no strikeouts, so obviously wasn't in the zone whatsoever. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:58.000 He gets the loss and a blown save. Maybe do 0:04:58.160 --> 0:04:59.680 for this, you know, I for Barker. I mean, like 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.880 I said, coming into this was pitching pretty well. I 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:03.839 think you noted it, Kevin. I don't think bad bullpen 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:05.160 management by Clayton in this one. 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:06.360 I mean, we could blame remember for a lot of 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.040 other things, but I don't think this was bad, especially 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.320 if he was going to use Peterson in the next inning, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.599 even though he had left these new up. Maybe getting 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.240 away a little bit from the strict platoon situation that 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:17.840 he had. But yeah, Boker, and this one takes a 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:19.320 step back and it cost to Marlin's game. 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.440 Like I said, he like finding new ways to lose. 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.440 That's what's happening on this skid that the Marlins are 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.000 which are on, which is now twelve games. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:27.320 So Boker in this one not good. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:28.239 Yeah, Boker. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.280 Overall this season he's been solid, but there have been 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.880 those two huge anomalies. The one that I think burns 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.760 pretty brightly in people's memory is the yeary perfect game bid. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.520 Boker was the one that came in with an eight 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.839 run lead, that was, and he didn't get a single 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.000 outs if I remember correctly, in that performance, that was 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.200 one of the worst relief outings of Marlin's history, allowing 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:51.000 five earned in that scenario. So that game sticks out, 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:53.239 and they actually won that game, of course, even though 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.920 I remember coming on the stream and people being furious 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:58.479 by the decision, they did at least win that game. 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:01.159 And then since then, this is the one that sticks 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.720 out that is very comparable to that outing, and this 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.760 one does end up making the entire difference between a 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:08.200 win and a loss. He came in with a two 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.880 run lead, he leaves with a two run deficit. And 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:14.039 that's pretty much all she wrote right there. To me, 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.440 I'm not going to like micro analyze Boker's performance. That 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.600 just speaks to the fact that this this roster as 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.520 a whole right now is just not strong enough. The 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.680 fact that Boker, I think, could you actually made the 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.920 case was a reasonable choice given the alternatives to pitch 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.599 in that situation. There weren't all that There weren't multiple 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.000 other guys left in the bullpen at that stage of 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.240 the game that I feel were significantly better than Boker. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.680 But the fact that he is that high up on 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.440 the leverage order just speaks to the fact that these 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.800 injuries have taken their toll and they haven't made the. 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:45.320 Adjustments necessary to this roster. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.960 There have been guys down in Jacksonville that I'd like 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:49.920 to have seen given a shot over these last couple 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.680 weeks that haven't gotten a shot, So they haven't really 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.719 given these guys an opportunity to show themselves as impact 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.400 guys in the later endings. Boker is a guy that has, 0:06:58.520 --> 0:07:01.560 in my mind, just limited ceiling in terms of what 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.800 he could do. He's kind of susceptible to having an 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.360 occasional blow up like this. I wouldn't put too much 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.279 on Baker, too much on Clayton. I think this is 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.760 one that really goes down to the team itself not 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.840 being strong enough. There's just not enough overall talent right now, 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:17.880 and they have found, as he kind of allude to, 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.360 so many different ways to fall just a little bit 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.600 short in these games, because as a whole, they're just 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:25.720 even teams that come in with very comparable records, teams 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:27.280 like the Patters that came into the series with the 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.080 worst record than the Padre than the Marlins did. But 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.160 the Padres, I think anybodyho says that they're a better 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.800 team right now. They have more overall talents, and that 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.200 kind of made the difference of the course of this weekend. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.600 Crutchick, I want to ask you, I mean, just to 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.480 end that topic really quick. On the bullpen, they do 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.440 have Acnes coming back. He threw a rehab outing yesterday, 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.080 looked like he had alos Villa. I think he topped 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.600 at ninety eight in a scoreless saying. I would say, you, Eli, 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:52.880 I don't know, just to wrap this up, maybe one 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:55.600 more rehoub outing and we've maybe able to see him 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:59.480 back after his knee problem or whatever happened. I would 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.360 think that he come back, and it sounds it sounds 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:07.120 kinda kind of like maybe not trying to speak too 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:08.760 highly of him because his major league career is only 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.880 so short, but that will be a huge addition when 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.600 he comes back, just considering that he can if he has. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:14.440 To go multiple innings. 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:18.760 But really, you know, shines in that one inning, one 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:21.160 inning role that just come in and fireball guys. So 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.440 I'm excited to see Acnes back because I do think 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.600 that he is still good and Ken pitching a high 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.720 leverage if he has to. So I'm I'm looking forward 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.000 to them getting Actnes back, hopefully after like one more rehab. 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.959 Any anyways, that's it on the bullpen for now, Crutchick. 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.960 I want to go to you just just ending with 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.920 we DELI said about the team not being good enough, 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.319 and I would agree with it. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.400 Is there a sense of urgency in this clubhouse? 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:46.880 You were there today and Kevin, I know you were 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:48.720 there I think the other two games of this series, right, 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:50.880 So I want to go to Kratchik first because you 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.800 were there today and saw this one, and we're there 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.720 for Clayton's post game to talk about Clayton yesterday post game, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:59.680 like just it doesn't seem from his comment from mcculla's 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.080 comments that there is a real sense of urgency to 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:03.760 win games. 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.440 It's like, oh, yeah, skids happened. We're talking about twelve 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:09.360 games and he's up on the stands smiling with his 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.119 arms crossed. Yeah, well we'll go. We have another one tomorrow. 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.440 Like there's maybe he knows that the team was over 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.319 achieving in June. Maybe he knows that, you. 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.360 Know, they were kind of playing with house money coming 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.000 into July. But to look at this face that's on 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:27.319 the screen after what was their eleventh straight loss, and 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.760 then I think even today it wasn't that much different 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.240 in his postgame press conference. You can correct me every 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:32.720 I'm wrong. 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.360 My question for you is what is there a sense 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:40.160 of urgency in ending this and trying to actually compete 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.600 this year or is it just another day. 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.280 I do think there's a sense of urgency, and I 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:48.880 do think that there's a little bit of anger in 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.360 the clubhouse at the situation where. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:52.000 They find themselves in. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:53.880 The Reality is we only get in an hour with 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.280 them before the game and ten minutes with them after 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:57.760 the game. So there's no way for me to know 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:02.080 this for sure. But in covering this team and this 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.839 specific regime for the last couple of years. You get 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:09.040 the sense that they are so locked in on their plan, 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:14.200 their plan, their game plan, their analytics, their philosophies that 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.720 when things like this happen, it's just, you know, stay 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.880 the course, stay the course. And to an extent, I 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.200 agree with that. I'm not saying you should blow up 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:24.480 the entire blueprint, blow up the team, fire Clayton tonight. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:27.240 But at the same time, you can't just come in 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.760 and say everything will be fine because we know who 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:31.360 we are and we know what we're gonna do. There 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:33.920 has to be some human element to it where I 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.760 need to see coach get mad. I need to see 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:39.280 some sort of elements which we saw earlier in the 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.480 season of you know, Peter Bendix sending guys down. Connor 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:45.720 Norby wasn't doing well enough, so we get sent down. 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.920 The same with Gus. Gus was not doing well enough 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.319 at Catcher defensively or offensive link, so we get sent down. 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.040 I like those sort of things. Right now, I'm getting 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:57.880 the vited they are drinking too much of their own 0:10:57.920 --> 0:11:01.240 kool aid when it comes to we trust our full again. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.800 Like I said, nothing, you should blow up your philosophy 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.559 because of a bad twelve game stretch, but clearly something 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.480 needs to change, even it's just temporary, like something you 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.760 need to have some sort of human element into what 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.280 you're doing instead of just saying we trust our process, 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.720 we trust our process. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:21.440 And just to add on to that really quick, just 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.040 you know, I was in Houston for all three of 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:27.960 those losses. I think it's safe to say, like, the 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.560 way that this team went about it the first half 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.439 of the season is certainly not the same. Like Kurtchick, 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.120 you were there today and you were there yesterday and 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.199 we didn't walk into the clubhouse because it wasn't really needed. 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:39.880 But like, it's not the same vibe. The guys clearly 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:43.000 are feeling it. I do agree, though, like your manager 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.920 shouldn't be smiling and trying to spin every question into 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:49.480 a positive because at the end of the day, you 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:51.600 I hate to say it like this, and I have 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.560 a lot of respect for Clayton what he does, but 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.440 you were on the hot seat, my friend. He is 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.439 on the hot seat. There's no doubt about it. I 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.360 don't know exactly the contract situation is that I think 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.400 it's either it ends after this season or he has 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.200 one more after this made a team option or whatever, 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.199 but it's it gets to a point where if you 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:10.400 set the franchise record for most losses in a row, 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.960 something needs to be done, something needs to change. And 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:15.360 and I understand they're going through this analytical plan that 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:17.480 crutchc mentions, but sometimes you have to go away from 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.400 that the way this team is mentally defeated. And you 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:22.959 know what, this is what I've noticed. And I don't 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:24.840 know if you guys want to touch in on this too, 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.480 but for example, they gave up what was it the 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.000 homer to Renhifo. After that, you would have thought it 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.520 was a funeral in there. Like it was dead, Like 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.680 the clubhouse was dead, everything was dead. Like they just 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.600 seemed lifeless. Lifeless baseball is being played, and that's not 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.240 the team that we saw at the start of the season. 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:41.640 The team we saw at the start of the season 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.920 was a team that played small ball, was extremely vibrant 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.600 and had a lot of energy. You had spark plugs 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.760 in there with Sooha and and what's his name, Ruiz 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.560 and just not seeing that it's it's lifeless baseball, that 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:56.400 it's lacking energy. I'm not saying that the effort is 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.120 there Don't get me wrong, there is effort, and Clayton 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:00.920 mentioned that in Houston, and I'm sure there is because 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.240 they're pitching well, at least starting pitching. The starting pitching 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:07.160 has helped has kept them in games and has clearly 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:10.040 been a big reason as to why they stay close 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:13.040 in the games, and offensively in some of the games 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:16.599 they have done just enough to at least stay in it. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.160 It's sometimes the bullpen and sometimes the offense. And I 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:20.760 think I look at the Houston serious and you strike 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:23.240 out fourteen times in one game thirteen in the next. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.120 I mean, guys, this one was. Offense is one of 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.440 the worst in baseball. Since the start of the losing streak, 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.040 they rank last and almost every statistical category you could 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.480 think of. Their second last in WRC plus second and last, 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.320 and on last, and on base percentage last, second and last, 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.559 and OPS last, and batting average, they've hit the least 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.800 amount of home ors, they've scored the least amount of 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.800 runs in baseball. It really is truly the offense. But 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.599 today it was the bullpen. And there's cases where it 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.520 has been the bullpen this season. And when they go 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.080 down this team, you know, you talked about the fight, 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.160 the urgency, all this we spoke about the start of 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.839 the season. Just you're not seeing it at all. You're 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:03.640 seeing a lifeless lacking of energy product when the team 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:07.120 it goes down into a game, and you know what, fine, 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:08.920 but they gotta find ways to get out of it 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:13.319 because they are the reason that they are now probably 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:14.960 gonna sell and they're gonna see some of their team 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.720 mights go to another organization come August third. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:23.360 Yeah, and just a sorry Carver, I just want to 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.760 you guys have both touched on the hitting, which has 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:27.440 been an issue. I mean, they still have yet to 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:31.560 score more than three runs. They've they've scored more than 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.400 three runs two times in twelve games. That should be 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:36.760 almost impossible for a big lead team. In my opinion, 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.200 you guys touching the bullpen. I've never seen a team 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.360 miss a player like the Mans of missing Anthony Bender 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.480 for however long he's been out when you're working into 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.040 the eighth didn't even tie ball game, And no disrespect 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:48.400 for you, Tyler Zueber out there and Dad scored in 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.040 a one run game. And then Boker today, like Eli said, 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.560 I like Boker, but if he's that high up when 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.080 you're gonna use him leverage. I don't see that as well. 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.080 So when it comes to base running, which is also 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.640 what I've been looking at, hobby Er Snohak taking off 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.160 the third base and I've all hit right in front 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.480 of him. That just goes and I think they've they've 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.880 been impressing so much we saw with Auto yesterday. I 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:12.240 wouldn't say they're lifeless, because I mean, when they're up 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:14.520 like they were today, there is some energy there. But 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.800 I feel like they're all trying to fix the issue 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:18.920 with one player, one game and trying to get all 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.440 twelve games back in a single player, a single game 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:24.320 so they can take it more day by day by 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.520 Janson Johnson after his start today, and then they'll be 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:30.880 able to find more success. But it's a nothing in 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:34.000 any department is working right now, so something has to change. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:35.480 I'm not going to say claims on the hot seat 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.920 because at the end of the day, he's not. He 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.560 hasn't scored more than three runs twice. It's the bats 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.160 he quots in the lineup, which are given to him 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:44.880 by Bendinson co. So That's where I'm at right now. 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.560 Really quickly to clarify it's lifeless, after they're down in 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.640 the game. For sure, they're when they're up and they're winning, 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.240 it's great. But when Kifo hits the homer in that 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:58.440 first game, dead, they give up the late it was 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:00.680 dead allot all of yesterday, and then they give up 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.320 the back to back homeers to Machada. I think it 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.800 was Jackson Merrill. Dead. You gotta I understand there's a 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:08.640 losing streak, but if they want to win, they're gonna 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.120 have to show some life and some energy. Because I 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.360 know that's not the big part of it, because there's 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.680 a lot more that's going on right now that outside 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:18.560 of that. But I'm watching lifeless baseball and that was 0:16:18.560 --> 0:16:20.000 a big thing too in Houston. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:22.480 And at the end of the day. To fix that, 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:23.800 I'm gonna go to you in a second one. To 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.720 fix that. I don't know if you're gonna say the 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:26.120 same thing. 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:31.720 To fix that. It starts with Clayton mccallough. Absolutely starts 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.680 with the manager of the baseball team in those moments 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:39.520 where it's dead, to encourage your team, to say something 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.560 to your team, to after a tenth eleventh straight loss 0:16:42.560 --> 0:16:46.160 hole the closed door meeting, do something rather than sit 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.360 on a stand and say we got another game tomorrow. 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.400 Well, it will end it. It's it's not just one thing, 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:52.680 it's it's a variety. Well, we'll, we'll get there, we'll 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:53.120 we'll end. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.680 Every game matters, especially when you're barely playing to a 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:57.400 wildcard spot. 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.760 You have to find ways to motivate your players. 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:03.960 Yes, at the end of the day, it's up to 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.639 the players that are on the field to play the 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.000 game and perform. It is up to the manager to 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.600 motivate the players to perform, and he's not doing that 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:12.080 right now. 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.919 So Sean, how does McCullough fix that and why hasn't he? 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.800 But so far I've just been doing my impression of 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:22.840 the Marlins offense man being super quiet. But how Clayton 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:26.480 fixes it? I mean, I agree with you completely. I 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.359 get the argument that if he came in and did something, 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.000 you know, very untrue to himself all of a sudden, 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.399 like started kicking over tables in the locker room, you know, 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.480 that's probably the gonna You know, some players might be 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.320 looking at him sideways thinking, you know, what's this guy? 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.080 But no, I'm just been in front of you know 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.760 that same you know placid expression, you know, lost after loss, 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.240 like these games count for something like That's that is 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.200 the attitude you want. When we were learning how to 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.359 win and learning how to be a baseball team last 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.879 year and even earlier on in the season. But you know, 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:59.119 the expectations changed and the pressure you know, should change 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:03.360 with it, and that's requires far more you know, get 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:07.720 up and go. If that doesn't happen on camera, fine, 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.199 but you really want to see that sense that the 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.000 manager is not satisfied to performance, that someone's going to 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.120 be held accountable, you know, for this, and you've got 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.200