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Speaker 1: now at patreon dot com. Slash, Jenkins and Jones. Jay

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Speaker 1: Z did an interview today where he was asked about

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Speaker 1: the Kendrick and Drake beef said that he thinks basically

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Speaker 1: that like rap music has progressed past the point of

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Speaker 1: like needing beef or battles, and Tyler, I was curious

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Speaker 1: for your thoughts on John he was.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know, basically his over arching statement with

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Speaker 2: that was like stand culture makes shit toxic.

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Speaker 3: And I wholeheartedly agree one thousand percent.

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Speaker 2: But we had him on Yez jay Z basically the

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Speaker 2: point he was making in regards to he was talking

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Speaker 2: about how toxic shit got in the fallout of the

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Speaker 2: Draken Kendrick battle, and he you know, chalked that up

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Speaker 2: to stand culture ballot point.

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Speaker 3: Agree with you with one thousand percent on that.

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Speaker 2: But we have never had these conversations ever before history

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Speaker 2: where where where motherfuckers are saying maybe we should not

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Speaker 2: have rap battles anymore, Like yeah, it's just I think

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Speaker 2: it's just a testament to how bad Drake got his

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Speaker 2: ass beat that you've got a rapper who many consider

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Speaker 2: the goat who when you think of him, you think

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Speaker 2: of the prolific battle that he got.

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Speaker 3: Into with nas Who's Who?

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Speaker 2: And he he said, he pointed at at Drake and said,

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Speaker 2: you see that guy right there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if anyone should ever get their ass

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Speaker 3: beat like him. Again, That's basically what he said.

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Speaker 2: Bro, Like I said, I understand the stand culture angle,

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Speaker 2: but we weren't having these conversations when fucking when when

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Speaker 2: when Drake was dragging it against Meek Mill and going

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Speaker 2: on tour, performing back to back and going to meet

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Speaker 2: Mills hotel and getting a room right under him and

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Speaker 2: playing back to back and all that, you know, fucking

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Speaker 2: tning he was doing to meet But but it's it's

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Speaker 2: like when Drake fucking you know gets smacked up, it's

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Speaker 2: like it's it's time to it's time to analyze the

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Speaker 2: trajectory of hip.

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Speaker 3: Hop, and it's like, bro, no no friend.

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Speaker 1: In the front of the pod, David David Dennis Junior

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Speaker 1: quote treated Tyler's sweet and said, imagine getting knocked out

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Speaker 1: so bad in the ring that Muhammad Ali says, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe boxing.

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Speaker 3: Should cease to exist, Like that's what Jay listen. Jay

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Speaker 3: went at every fucking body he like.

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Speaker 2: Of course the Nas beef like that is that was

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Speaker 2: the greatest beef in rap this until Drake in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: But this motherfucker like he threw a little stiff jab

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Speaker 2: and fifty cent with the I'm about a dollar with

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Speaker 2: the fucking fifty cent he went at fifth set, he

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Speaker 2: went at the he dow some shots at the locks

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Speaker 2: like he went at fucking he hopped on Memphis Bleak's

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Speaker 2: album and was throwing jabs.

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Speaker 3: That's some no name Harlem World motherfuckers.

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Speaker 2: Like like he was someone who was always active for

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Speaker 2: him to say this, like to his credit though, he

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Speaker 2: did say, man, I'm getting old and soft, you know, manya,

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Speaker 2: I feel.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm the finger waggon ass ohld nigga.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, he did say that too, to his credit.

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Speaker 2: But it's like, bro, I just it's just so it's

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Speaker 2: so wild to me that when when fucking that that

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Speaker 2: when we're talking about rat before, we've seen it go

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Speaker 2: too far.

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Speaker 3: We've seen rappers get yet killed me. You know, ship

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Speaker 3: like rap beef and ship.

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Speaker 2: But we're saying like a dude getting mean to death,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's when when we're going too far, like

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Speaker 2: I ain't going, bro.

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Speaker 4: I see, Like I agree with you Tyler completely, I see.

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Speaker 5: I see his standpoint though, and also think like the

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Speaker 5: bigger issue is that we had this fuck ass nigga

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Speaker 5: running rap for so long.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like he.

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Speaker 5: Was I mean, and so like when he fell off

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Speaker 5: rap kind of like took a dip, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean, Like Kendrick is dropping every five years. Who's

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Speaker 5: the person that's gonna who's the superstar that keeps it,

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Speaker 5: keeps it?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean. We don't have that person anymore,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: But the fact that he was even that person, it's

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Speaker 5: crazy being that he was a whole ass nigga for

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Speaker 5: so long, and you know I didn't I mean, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: Dislike him like Drake.

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Speaker 5: I didn't hate Drake or dislike to the extent I

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Speaker 5: dislike him now after he like called the cops on Kendrick,

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Speaker 5: you know, like or you know, for getting his ass

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Speaker 5: well basically, but like what he did to what was

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Speaker 5: that boy name when he took that song and then

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Speaker 5: beat his ass, what he did a drum bro, Like

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Speaker 5: I just feel like that type of person like stole

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Speaker 5: the song and then when the dude took up for himself,

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Speaker 5: he got his people to jump drums ass like basically

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Speaker 5: stalling his career like he had Beyonce dance to his

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Speaker 5: music into Drake's you know, you know, uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: fucked him up. So like, yeah, I just feel like

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Speaker 5: the fact that Drake was in that position so long

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Speaker 5: as a bigger issue. I don't think you know, the

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Speaker 5: fact that Kendrick you know, was tired of his shit,

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Speaker 5: I mean, and dog his ass to fuck out, you know,

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Speaker 5: And it makes much sense as a old nigga myself,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Actually also makes the point that Jay made these comments

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Speaker 1: but did also like personally put Kendrick on the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl halftime show that was like one of the major

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Speaker 1: moments of the.

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Speaker 5: He pointed out, the math made sense though, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, Like, you know, he stepped on Drake's

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Speaker 5: head in order to get to the top nigga, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, you know, and then held his

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Speaker 5: head up for the crowd at the fucking super Bowl

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Speaker 5: like nigga, you know, you know, I'm I'm the King

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Speaker 5: of Mountain type shit.

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Speaker 4: But it made sense. It was a right decision.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm also just not a fan of how

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Speaker 2: people are just painting Drake as this undeserving figure and

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Speaker 2: all of this when Bro, he was the first one

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Speaker 2: to throw shots below the belt, when he was the

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Speaker 2: first one to bring in the whole angle of of

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Speaker 2: you know, accusing Kendrick of being a woman beater and

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Speaker 2: that his kids weren't his Like.

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Speaker 3: He took it the hell first.

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Speaker 2: He tried to get the he tried to play on

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Speaker 2: toxicity and get the crowd to turn on Kendrick, and

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Speaker 2: that same crowd turned on him. That motherfucker went out

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Speaker 2: like star with the hyaenus and we're supposed to feel

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Speaker 2: sorry for this motherfucker.

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Speaker 3: No, fuck him.

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Speaker 5: I think he just also I think he doesn't really understand,

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Speaker 5: Like he didn't learn from from going and pushing, don't

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Speaker 5: bring nobody's family in like that. Bro, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like he didn't learn from that because he

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Speaker 5: don't got them type of morals. You feel me Like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: now if you talk about my people, I can say

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Speaker 5: anything to you, you know what I mean, like anything,

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Speaker 5: you know, I can say anything because fuck you and

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Speaker 5: everything you stand for and everything, everything you will about

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Speaker 5: at that point, you know what I'm saying, Like, if

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Speaker 5: you bring your family into a nigga, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So