WEBVTT - HR1: Draft 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:07.560 He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:09.760 your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:12.559 Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:27.960 Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:32.879 the Matt Williamson and it is a beautiful Wednesday here 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:33.440 in Pittsburgh. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.159 Yeah, and happy Beast Day to you as well, the 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:35.760 beach Day. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.400 Happy anniversary. That's anniversary as well, and his beautiful wife 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:44.919 Nikki and Steelers have more visitors today. Yeah, let's dig 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:46.559 right into that is heating up. We're about I think 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.040 this by my reckoning, we're now had about twenty guys in, 0:00:50.120 --> 0:00:53.080 so they got ten more visits, give or take. He 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:56.000 could have some local guys that come in as well 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.880 that bump that number up even more. Okay, but but 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.040 that's the is the for that, you know, rest of 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:06.479 the season. The visits today. Two very significant players coming 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:09.679 in today, Guys that we have drafted multiple times in 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:11.199 the first round of our mock drafts. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:11.440 Yeah. 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:16.319 Yeah, Derek Harmon, defensive tackle from Oregon and Omari and 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.959 Hampton the running back from North Carolina. They also had 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:22.920 Oli Gordon, running back from Oklahoma State in today. 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.720 I'm not a huge Gordon fan. We'll get that one 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.760 out of the way. But I do think the fact 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:29.640 that Gordon and Hampton were here two bigger backs, and 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:34.560 I said, they're not married to four to three, you know, accelerator, 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.520 smaller guy. Although Hampton can still I mean you can scoot. 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:40.440 He can going in the first round. Yeah, really good player. 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.319 I wonder how high he'd be up on their twenty 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.039 one board, you know what I mean, and probably similar 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.920 to us. I would think, yeah, it'd be really useful 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:51.080 for right now. 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.400 Again, when we did our board, we had Hampton ahead 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:58.559 of him, Hampton ahead of who or we had Harmon 0:01:58.600 --> 0:01:59.360 ahead of Hampton. 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.480 Yeah, so all three of the d line. But it 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:04.680 was not they were always right right, they were close. 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.240 So it's funny. I did a podcast last night just 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.560 kind of doing a profile on Grant, Nolan and Harmon, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.760 and basically the whole preface of the podcast is get 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:17.880 used to these guys. There's a really good chance this 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:18.720 is your first pick. 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:19.680 Yeah, And I. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.240 Got tons of feedback. I'm like, Matt, I don't think 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.839 you're reading this right. You know, none of these guys 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.560 have been in on visits, you know, I'm like, one 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.840 shows up today yeah, it's not over yet. One shows 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.920 up today. I didn't know that, and I have a 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.200 pretty good idea that they have a pretty good hunt. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:36.160 Who these dudes are. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.560 Well, yeah, I mean if you think about it as well, 0:02:41.600 --> 0:02:43.440 you know they went to some of the pro days 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.840 with some of these top guys as well. So you 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.480 don't necessarily you mentioned this last week. If you go 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.400 to their pro day, you talk to him at the Combine, 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.080 you talk to him at the Senior Bowl or wherever else. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.440 You don't need to bring that guy in for a visit. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.040 You don't. But actually, as I'm sitting here thinking about it, 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:05.240 we know Omar and Tomlin were not at Mississippi. They 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.560 were not and they were not Michigan. They were not 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.320 because of Rogers. You know, they almost always are coming in. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.280 Maybe they said are or not. It doesn't mean they're 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:14.200 they're not interesting. 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.720 And it goes back to what I talked Harmon to me, 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:19.639 is the best fit if you're looking for a three 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.799 to four defensive end that looks like Cam Hayward, that 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.560 looks like Aaron Smith, that looks like step on to it. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:28.360 some of these guys on the arm length of the 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.080 arm length, the height. Everything that's Harmon. 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:33.880 Is it is He's I like the other two slightly 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:37.400 better because it hadn't done that. But on the the 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.160 end of the podcast I record yesterday, I'm like, well, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.680 I should at least rank these three of who I like, 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:46.280 and I went Nolan, Grant Harmon. But I'm real comfortable 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:46.920 with all of them. 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.320 Yeah, I mean, yeah, you mentioned The Beast came out 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:51.840 today for Dame Bugler's Beast on the Athletic. You can 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.200 always check that out on there. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.680 It's way more I mean, it's worth than it's worth 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:57.560 your whole subscription. 0:03:57.760 --> 0:03:59.760 You can sit down and read this thing from now 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.200 and till the start of the draft. Yeah, and maybe 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:06.280 you might not be done. And what's crazy as Harmon 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.520 reck number two among his defensive tech. 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:10.800 Okay, I have not looked at the rankings yet. That's 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.200 tonight's project. But but the other thing about the Beast 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.880 too is his analysis is wonderful. Danes are very good, 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.080 but he does all the background stuff. I say, the 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.960 background is like reading its own novel, Like there's these 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:24.400 guys different past stuff. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:25.880 In there that I didn't like. I was reading a 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.120 Jackson Dartwallers waiting to do the show. I didn't realize 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:31.159 Jackson Dart transferd High School three times. 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:32.440 Wow, Well I wouldn't. 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.039 People were killing Walton Nolan for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.120 you know, that's just that's today's athlete. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.360 It is. And one thing I read just in the 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.760 last twenty four hours about in Nolan is one of 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:45.880 the character things. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:46.360 I guess. 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:50.760 He exploded in the Mississippi practice and stormed off one time. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:52.320 I don't care. 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.839 So what he's emotional, I really don't care, you know, 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:57.599 And that doesn't bother me one bit. Yeah it was 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:58.120 on ESPN. 0:04:58.160 --> 0:04:59.960 That's why Mike tom Like gets paid the big bucks 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:00.760 to deal with. 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.480 That, right, you know. Okay, and a little bit emotional, 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.760 that's fine. Once he got mad at practice, I don't 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:09.880 care if he was emotional, what's that. I'm not comparing 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.240 Walter Nolan to Antonio Brown, but he was emotional. There's 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:17.320 been some steel emotional dude, James Harrison, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.200 you got Cam Hayward in that room. They'll be getting 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.560 fifty three new guys every year. There's gonna be some 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.640 guys that have a different absolutely absolutely all three of 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:25.200 those job. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:26.760 The head coaches to manage that stuff. 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.599 All three of those guys to me are very, very appealing, 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.279 and Harmon would be a great fit. I mean good 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:32.880 that he was in. 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:34.840 Yeah, Hampton. 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:35.719 Yeah. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.360 So when I tweeted that out earlier today that Hampton 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.440 was in for a visit and somebody said, oh, he'd 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.960 be a great complimentary back to Jalen Warren, I'm like, oh, no, 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:45.000 you got that backwards. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.560 Yeah, He's one of the few that would be the 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:48.760 why he would be the. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.480 One Jalen would stay in his third down role right 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:54.080 right right, and Omari and Hampton would be there getting 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:55.799 two hundred and fifty to three hundred touch. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.880 Guy and there would be third downs where Hampton's out 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.520 there too and passing situations invites or so. It's not 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.680 like Warren can't handle first and ten or first, but 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:07.120 that would be either he would. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.560 Be rush back. And yes, Jalen Warrem would be your 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:10.039 number two. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.560 Yes, he's one of the few that I think that's 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.000 definitely the case. I'm not sure about the Ohio State guys. 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.640 If I would definitely say that if you use a 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.240 first round pick on Hampton. 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:21.560 That's the thing You're going to give the guy the ball, 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:26.240 the investment, right right, So that's interesting. I don't know 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.120 that he makes it past Denver at twentieth. That's gonna 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.000 be a tough one. That's a tough one unless they 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.000 decide to go receiver or one of those tight ends. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.600 Are there also. 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.599 Them taking one of those one of those pass catchers 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:38.720 to make life easier on. 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:41.880 Absolutely as well. I mean they signed Ingram, but another 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.080 Peyton keeps talking about a weapon, a joker, a joker 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.159 and all that kind of stuff. And Hampton's not really 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.599 that he catch the ball. Well yeah, but he's not 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.680 Sprolls or even like Camara as a receiver. Yeah. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.200 Yeah, And I could see Peyton in particular wanting to 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:57.640 recreate what he had. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.000 I would think with Kamara. But running backs a big 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.200 need for them right now. The copverards pretty bad. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.520 They also took at one point, they took the Alabama 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:10.160 running back the grinder, Oh Ingram, you're talking about the 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.240 Saints took Market they took in the first round in 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.680 the first round. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of the Omari 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.760 and Hampton. Yeah, except Hampton has more speed, you. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:20.720 Say, Hampton's better receiver and even more of a big 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.160 play guy. And Ingram won Heisman in his first round pick. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.320 But if you remember early on when they had when 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.200 they drafted Kamara, they still had Ingram. 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:27.480 Yeah. 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:29.320 Yeah, and they went with that one two punch. 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:31.560 Quite a bit, quite a bit. Yeah, So no, I 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:36.880 there are some landing spots. I mean, I don't know 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:38.480 that this is the case, but I happened to do 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:40.640 a podcast this morning with Marcus Mosher. He was on 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:44.120 our show one time. He locked on Cowboys. He's pretty 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:46.080 convinced that their first round pick is going to be 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.560 tet or Golden. You know, I thought Hampton could be 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.760 a landing spot there. Genti goes the top ten obvious 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.040 need at running back, but he thinks they would go receive. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.480 And that's why Denver could do the same thing. I 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:02.440 just think that this year's wide receiver group isn't as 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.800 talented or as deep as we've seen the last few years. 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.640 Maybe they take the other one of those, Yeah, which 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.280 is why the Steelers made the trade for DK medcalf Right. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:10.480 It's not made a pick from Yeah. 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:14.240 I think that because you have to dance with what 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:15.840 you got, you know, And so. 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:18.320 In the second round, backs for Denver wouldn't be bad. 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:22.440 No, No, they take Judkins. Andy'd be perfectly happy. 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.320 Johnson. I mean, yeah, there's plenty to pick from, right, 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.680 So I give Hampton a forty percent chance of being 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:30.520 there at twenty one. Yeah, but I would take the 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:31.040 D lineman. 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.400 I still think the defensive line for the same reason. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.080 I think you can get it back at some point. 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:39.600 You got Jaleen Warren in your backfield that you you know, hey, 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.600 he can touch the ball two hundred and fifty times. 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.280 Since we're talking about abundance of positions on the way here, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.079 I was listening Todd McShay was on Ross Tucker's podcast, 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.920 said he has thirty five d line from edge to nose, 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:57.199 everything in between, just defensive front players. Thirty five guys 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.760 with a top three round grade one out of every 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.280 three picks a lot. But I get it, Yeah, I 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.319 get it. I mean it's a really deep class and 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:06.160 they're gonna go. 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:09.960 The edges in particular. I just see edge rushers all 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.920 over this draft. Me to and even like some of 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:14.800 my a lot of my mock drafts, when we get 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.600 to that sixth or seventh round and I'm like, Okay, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.400 who's the best player available, it's an edge guy. I'm 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:24.559 like I don't know that I necessarily need him guy, 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:27.400 but he'll play special teams. You know, maybe he's better. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.719 You know, he pushes Jeremiah Moon off the roster or 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:33.400 makes him the fifth guy Herbig. You know, you don't 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.880 know what's gonna happen there again, Wat's going into his 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.240 the final. You don't know, there's some uncertainty at that 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:38.839 position for you. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.040 Sure, right, is her Big going to sign a second contract? 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:41.200 Right? 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:41.520 I don't know. 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.360 Right, they made some may make him an offer he can't. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.280 I mean, he's a starting caliber player. 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:48.959 I would have to really look at the teams though, 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.559 but I definitely think to your point, there's more need 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.679 across the thirty one teams an edge than the tackle. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.240 Yeah, a lot of teams have one, but they don't 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:00.199 have they don't have two. 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.200 Right, But you really help the Steelers at the tackle roar. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:07.360 Because of the way the defensive tackles can hold on 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:09.680 into their thirties, well into their thirties. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.280 You can do more long jev Yeah, you can. 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.760 You can go get a Devon Godshaw, Oh yeah, he 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.600 can hold down a spot for you and you know, 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.280 or you know, pick somebody. 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.520 Especially with all the noses It's funny. We turned in 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.240 our triple takes the tackles and noses in this tack 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.000 and I guess you and I had like the same 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:26.880 paragraph written all. 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.480 I had written mine, yeah last week, and I hadn't 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:34.320 seen yours until last night. And I'm putting it into 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:39.640 the system and I'm like familiar, and I go up, 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:42.079 I remind I'm like, you're kind of saying the same 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:44.720 thing here. It's a lot of the same wording. I'm like, Matt, 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:47.640 We've been spending way too much time the trailer. But 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:48.240 it's true. 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:51.120 Yeah, yeah, it is. There are I'm I listed like 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:53.280 seven noses. I think it'll be like the third and 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:53.920 fourth round. 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:59.280 There's probably ten, ten to fifteen true nose tackles in 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:01.720 this draft that'll get picked, that are going to get picked, 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.160 that could all stick in the NFL. Like they're not 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:05.720 all going to work out, No. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.360 But twelve of them you'd like to be Steelers, you know, 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.520 that would be almost guaranteed a roster spot, to be helpful. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:14.480 It's kind of not everyone's after a nose, right, you know. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.560 And and that's the you know, when you look at 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.240 a guy like Kenneth Grant. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.160 Yeah, can he be. I don't think he's nose only. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.320 I don't think he is either. But that split my 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:28.000 tie between Nolan and Grant, and I could be convinced 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.520 that Harmon is worth more than Grant. Yeah, it's what snaps? 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:32.640 How many snaps canna play? 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.839 Right? That's the thing, right, you know, it goes back 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.400 to what we were talking about. You know, if you're 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.960 going to talk about Graham Mason Graham like, Okay, yeah, 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.520 he's the opposite. He's a talented player, Yeah, but what's 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.440 his what's his ceiling in this defense? 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:48.320 I mean he snaps the game and what are all 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.320 his roles? Again, I think Grant, if you were in 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.559 a true three four, I think Grant could be an end. 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.040 Yeah you know, but is he going to be one 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:02.360 of your two pass rushers in Nickel and Dime? Not 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:04.480 for a while? I mean Cam would have to retire. 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.720 Yeah, I mean he may that forward, I have a 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:10.360 game right, right, But he's not gonna be a primary guy. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.400 To be a primary guy, he's definitely behind Bent and 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.480 he's definitely behind Cam. Where Nolan would be in the mix, 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:18.240 Harmon would be in the mix today, right, you know. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.160 And that's a lot of snaps you know where you're 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:21.240 at the four man front. 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.000 Yeah, I get it, they don't they only play there 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.360 that that three or four defense is only about twenty 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:29.840 five percent of what you do. But you better be 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:31.600 That's why you better be able to do something else. 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.679 I suppose just being a no's that's why if I'm 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.920 taking just a guy who's a pure nose, unless it's 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.439 just a value that I can't you know, I think 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.400 Alfred Collins can rush the passer. 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:44.800 Right, I think Collins and grand I think. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.880 Tyler has some has some pass rush potential potential. Yeah, 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:51.880 I mean, but if there are a true nose, you know, 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:53.720 and you look at some of these guys are like 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:55.320 zero career sacks. 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.600 Yeah, yeah, you know, and you mentioned if we would 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:01.080 name you throughout there was a thrower like Lynnvell, Joseph, 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.680 you can Godshaw. Yeah. I mean, I can get a plugger, 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.360 pure run stuff or a handvil in the middle of 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:09.600 the defense, and that's that's not a hard thing to find. 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.880 Yeah, those guys hang again, they can play to their forty. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:16.480 But I still like the idea of Nolan and Nolan 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:20.920 and Nolan or Harmon or Grant. But and then fourth 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:21.920 round Caldwell. 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:23.560 Yeah, you know something like that. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.760 I mean he could be like a second round player, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.839 I mean West or Caldwell. But you're gonnave him the 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:28.680 fourth it's yere. 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:30.400 Right, jump on it because of the way that the 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:36.280 draft falls. But it's it's uh yeah, three interesting, well, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.680 two very interesting guys and a third you know, interesting 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.680 because he's a bigger back than what they've been bringing in. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:44.760 But again, I think some pigeon holed on this step. 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.760 I think some of that goes in into you know, 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:52.400 what's available in the draft. You know there are four 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.679 or five bigger backs. I haven't but the majority of 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:57.880 them are those two hundred and five to two hundred 0:13:57.880 --> 0:13:58.440 and ten pounds. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.640 Yeah, those guys just I mean call games more about space. Yeah, 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:05.120 I mean, it's it's easier to get guys in space 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.880 and that type of thing. And I sold Gordon short, 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.240 and frankly, i've sold him short every step of the process. 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:11.199 I haven't been really impressed. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:12.520 He was really good two years ago. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:13.960 That's what I was gonna say, though, Like if you 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.839 look at the way too early mock drafts, it was 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:21.400 him and Hampton and Judkins as number two behind genty. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.640 You know, like depending who you liked. I mean, so 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:26.320 he didn't have a great year. Is there injuries I 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.440 don't know about? Or I mean maybe maybe that's why 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.160 he's in. They're asking them all these questions, you know, 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.640 like can we get the two year ago version in 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:37.520 the fifth round? Well, now I'm interesting, Yeah, right right. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.560 So interesting and we'll see how this whole thing plays 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.200 out here in a couple of weeks. But he is 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.960 Matt Williamson. I am Dale LOLLI you're listening to the 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.960 Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.680 with more right after. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:57.760 This at He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.680 Williamson on your twenty four CE and home of the 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.880 Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:23.440 Dun dunn dun dunt dun dunt, dun't du Welcome back 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:27.600 to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williamson. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:33.280 And that music use you in our visitors. There's a 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:36.840 disturbance in the forest as the Dean of Doom, the 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:41.160 Lord of Living in his sphears, and the Emperor of 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:44.680 Steelers football coverage. Bob Labriola joins us here on the 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.960 Justin Miller Hotline. How you doing labs pretty good. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:52.240 Guys, are a fantasy fantastic bob. 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.200 But we're now two weeks out from the draft. Are 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:58.080 you starting to feel the buzz or you've ready to 0:15:58.240 --> 0:15:58.920 for this whole thing. 0:15:58.840 --> 0:15:59.200 To be over? 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.800 Well, I mean I'm looking forward to it. I always do. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.360 You know, I don't know that I have a feel 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.400 for how it's going to go, you know, starting with 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.000 you know who the Steelers are going to pick twenty first, 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.120 and then what's going to happen in the first twenty picks. 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.840 You know, I can't remember the last time there was 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.680 a draft where there wasn't a you know, oh my 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:28.440 god pick you know, at close to the top of 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:33.960 the first round. And you know, so again, like I said, 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.440 it's look forward to it. I want to see how 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:42.120 it unfolds, hoping for the best, and you know, I 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:46.040 just hope that we don't set any records for in 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.640 terms of length, you know, four hours and thirty minutes, 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.000 you know those kind of things. Let me ask you, guys, 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:54.400 you think there's gonna be a lot of trades in 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:55.080 the first round. 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.320 You know, I was just writing about that last night 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:02.440 bomb for my five for Friday. Little side note there 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:07.320 this is the latest that we've gone into or the 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.080 closest that we've gotten to a draft without with all 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:14.600 the teams still owning their own spots since nineteen ninety three. 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:16.399 And so I went back and looked at that ninety 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:20.640 three draft. Things changed five days before the draft because 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:24.240 Joe Montana got traded to the Kansas City Chiefs and 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:26.399 they that was the first round draft pick, so that 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.520 that messed up the order a little bit, But there 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:33.760 were still eleven draft picks traded in the first round, 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:37.000 including that that Montana, So there was still some movement 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.400 because you know, you could, as much as you want 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.719 to talk about, you know, best player available and all 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.520 that stuff, teams still draft for need and it's always 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.400 the best player available at any position of need, of course, 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.320 and so you know, if you see a run on 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:52.800 a certain position and you have a guy that's rated 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:54.040 that highly, maybe a move. 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.840 Yeah. Maybe teams are also waiting to make sure that 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:03.680 the guy that they're targeting in their trade up is 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.719 there for them, yeah, before they make any deals, because 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.159 I mean you could think, uh, you know, I'm going 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.919 to trade up to the third spot to the Giants spot, 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:17.679 and I'll get player X but I mean that doesn't 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.040 mean that he's not picked first or somebody doesn't even 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.840 even if you know what are going to do. Yeah, 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:28.600 somebody could jump into that spot. So yeah, I you know, 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:33.560 I think the teams are in terms of maybe waiting 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.600 to pull the trigger on some of these trades. Teams 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:41.199 are are being you know, purposeful, and you know they 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.040 want who they want maybe before they make a trade, 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:45.200 and they want to make sure he's there. 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.680