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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and it is a beautiful Wednesday here
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and happy Beast Day to you as well, the
Speaker 3: beach Day.
Speaker 2: Happy anniversary. That's anniversary as well, and his beautiful wife
Speaker 2: Nikki and Steelers have more visitors today. Yeah, let's dig
Speaker 2: right into that is heating up. We're about I think
Speaker 2: this by my reckoning, we're now had about twenty guys in,
Speaker 2: so they got ten more visits, give or take. He
Speaker 2: could have some local guys that come in as well
Speaker 2: that bump that number up even more. Okay, but but
Speaker 2: that's the is the for that, you know, rest of
Speaker 2: the season. The visits today. Two very significant players coming
Speaker 2: in today, Guys that we have drafted multiple times in
Speaker 2: the first round of our mock drafts.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Derek Harmon, defensive tackle from Oregon and Omari and
Speaker 2: Hampton the running back from North Carolina. They also had
Speaker 2: Oli Gordon, running back from Oklahoma State in today.
Speaker 3: I'm not a huge Gordon fan. We'll get that one
Speaker 3: out of the way. But I do think the fact
Speaker 3: that Gordon and Hampton were here two bigger backs, and
Speaker 3: I said, they're not married to four to three, you know, accelerator,
Speaker 3: smaller guy. Although Hampton can still I mean you can scoot.
Speaker 3: He can going in the first round. Yeah, really good player.
Speaker 3: I wonder how high he'd be up on their twenty
Speaker 3: one board, you know what I mean, and probably similar
Speaker 3: to us. I would think, yeah, it'd be really useful
Speaker 3: for right now.
Speaker 2: Again, when we did our board, we had Hampton ahead
Speaker 2: of him, Hampton ahead of who or we had Harmon
Speaker 2: ahead of Hampton.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so all three of the d line. But it
Speaker 3: was not they were always right right, they were close.
Speaker 3: So it's funny. I did a podcast last night just
Speaker 3: kind of doing a profile on Grant, Nolan and Harmon,
Speaker 3: and basically the whole preface of the podcast is get
Speaker 3: used to these guys. There's a really good chance this
Speaker 3: is your first pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I.
Speaker 3: Got tons of feedback. I'm like, Matt, I don't think
Speaker 3: you're reading this right. You know, none of these guys
Speaker 3: have been in on visits, you know, I'm like, one
Speaker 3: shows up today yeah, it's not over yet. One shows
Speaker 3: up today. I didn't know that, and I have a
Speaker 3: pretty good idea that they have a pretty good hunt.
Speaker 3: Who these dudes are.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean if you think about it as well,
Speaker 2: you know they went to some of the pro days
Speaker 2: with some of these top guys as well. So you
Speaker 2: don't necessarily you mentioned this last week. If you go
Speaker 2: to their pro day, you talk to him at the Combine,
Speaker 2: you talk to him at the Senior Bowl or wherever else.
Speaker 2: You don't need to bring that guy in for a visit.
Speaker 3: You don't. But actually, as I'm sitting here thinking about it,
Speaker 3: we know Omar and Tomlin were not at Mississippi. They
Speaker 3: were not and they were not Michigan. They were not
Speaker 3: because of Rogers. You know, they almost always are coming in.
Speaker 3: Maybe they said are or not. It doesn't mean they're
Speaker 3: they're not interesting.
Speaker 2: And it goes back to what I talked Harmon to me,
Speaker 2: is the best fit if you're looking for a three
Speaker 2: to four defensive end that looks like Cam Hayward, that
Speaker 2: looks like Aaron Smith, that looks like step on to it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: some of these guys on the arm length of the
Speaker 2: arm length, the height. Everything that's Harmon.
Speaker 3: Is it is He's I like the other two slightly
Speaker 3: better because it hadn't done that. But on the the
Speaker 3: end of the podcast I record yesterday, I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: I should at least rank these three of who I like,
Speaker 3: and I went Nolan, Grant Harmon. But I'm real comfortable
Speaker 3: with all of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you mentioned The Beast came out
Speaker 2: today for Dame Bugler's Beast on the Athletic. You can
Speaker 2: always check that out on there.
Speaker 3: It's way more I mean, it's worth than it's worth
Speaker 3: your whole subscription.
Speaker 2: You can sit down and read this thing from now
Speaker 2: and till the start of the draft. Yeah, and maybe
Speaker 2: you might not be done. And what's crazy as Harmon
Speaker 2: reck number two among his defensive tech.
Speaker 3: Okay, I have not looked at the rankings yet. That's
Speaker 3: tonight's project. But but the other thing about the Beast
Speaker 3: too is his analysis is wonderful. Danes are very good,
Speaker 3: but he does all the background stuff. I say, the
Speaker 3: background is like reading its own novel, Like there's these
Speaker 3: guys different past stuff.
Speaker 2: In there that I didn't like. I was reading a
Speaker 2: Jackson Dartwallers waiting to do the show. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: Jackson Dart transferd High School three times.
Speaker 3: Wow, Well I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: People were killing Walton Nolan for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, that's just that's today's athlete.
Speaker 3: It is. And one thing I read just in the
Speaker 3: last twenty four hours about in Nolan is one of
Speaker 3: the character things.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: He exploded in the Mississippi practice and stormed off one time.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 3: So what he's emotional, I really don't care, you know,
Speaker 3: And that doesn't bother me one bit. Yeah it was
Speaker 3: on ESPN.
Speaker 2: That's why Mike tom Like gets paid the big bucks
Speaker 2: to deal with.
Speaker 3: That, right, you know. Okay, and a little bit emotional,
Speaker 3: that's fine. Once he got mad at practice, I don't
Speaker 3: care if he was emotional, what's that. I'm not comparing
Speaker 3: Walter Nolan to Antonio Brown, but he was emotional. There's
Speaker 3: been some steel emotional dude, James Harrison, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you got Cam Hayward in that room. They'll be getting
Speaker 3: fifty three new guys every year. There's gonna be some
Speaker 3: guys that have a different absolutely absolutely all three of
Speaker 3: those job.
Speaker 2: The head coaches to manage that stuff.
Speaker 3: All three of those guys to me are very, very appealing,
Speaker 3: and Harmon would be a great fit. I mean good
Speaker 3: that he was in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hampton.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So when I tweeted that out earlier today that Hampton
Speaker 2: was in for a visit and somebody said, oh, he'd
Speaker 2: be a great complimentary back to Jalen Warren, I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 2: you got that backwards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's one of the few that would be the
Speaker 3: why he would be the.
Speaker 2: One Jalen would stay in his third down role right
Speaker 2: right right, and Omari and Hampton would be there getting
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty to three hundred touch.
Speaker 3: Guy and there would be third downs where Hampton's out
Speaker 3: there too and passing situations invites or so. It's not
Speaker 3: like Warren can't handle first and ten or first, but
Speaker 3: that would be either he would.
Speaker 2: Be rush back. And yes, Jalen Warrem would be your
Speaker 2: number two.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's one of the few that I think that's
Speaker 3: definitely the case. I'm not sure about the Ohio State guys.
Speaker 3: If I would definitely say that if you use a
Speaker 3: first round pick on Hampton.
Speaker 2: That's the thing You're going to give the guy the ball,
Speaker 2: the investment, right right, So that's interesting. I don't know
Speaker 2: that he makes it past Denver at twentieth. That's gonna
Speaker 2: be a tough one. That's a tough one unless they
Speaker 2: decide to go receiver or one of those tight ends.
Speaker 3: Are there also.
Speaker 2: Them taking one of those one of those pass catchers
Speaker 2: to make life easier on.
Speaker 3: Absolutely as well. I mean they signed Ingram, but another
Speaker 3: Peyton keeps talking about a weapon, a joker, a joker
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. And Hampton's not really
Speaker 3: that he catch the ball. Well yeah, but he's not
Speaker 3: Sprolls or even like Camara as a receiver. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I could see Peyton in particular wanting to
Speaker 2: recreate what he had.
Speaker 3: I would think with Kamara. But running backs a big
Speaker 3: need for them right now. The copverards pretty bad.
Speaker 2: They also took at one point, they took the Alabama
Speaker 2: running back the grinder, Oh Ingram, you're talking about the
Speaker 2: Saints took Market they took in the first round in
Speaker 2: the first round. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of the Omari
Speaker 2: and Hampton. Yeah, except Hampton has more speed, you.
Speaker 3: Say, Hampton's better receiver and even more of a big
Speaker 3: play guy. And Ingram won Heisman in his first round pick.
Speaker 2: But if you remember early on when they had when
Speaker 2: they drafted Kamara, they still had Ingram.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they went with that one two punch.
Speaker 3: Quite a bit, quite a bit. Yeah, So no, I
Speaker 3: there are some landing spots. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 3: that this is the case, but I happened to do
Speaker 3: a podcast this morning with Marcus Mosher. He was on
Speaker 3: our show one time. He locked on Cowboys. He's pretty
Speaker 3: convinced that their first round pick is going to be
Speaker 3: tet or Golden. You know, I thought Hampton could be
Speaker 3: a landing spot there. Genti goes the top ten obvious
Speaker 3: need at running back, but he thinks they would go receive.
Speaker 2: And that's why Denver could do the same thing. I
Speaker 2: just think that this year's wide receiver group isn't as
Speaker 2: talented or as deep as we've seen the last few years.
Speaker 2: Maybe they take the other one of those, Yeah, which
Speaker 2: is why the Steelers made the trade for DK medcalf Right.
Speaker 3: It's not made a pick from Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that because you have to dance with what
Speaker 2: you got, you know, And so.
Speaker 3: In the second round, backs for Denver wouldn't be bad.
Speaker 2: No, No, they take Judkins. Andy'd be perfectly happy.
Speaker 3: Johnson. I mean, yeah, there's plenty to pick from, right,
Speaker 3: So I give Hampton a forty percent chance of being
Speaker 3: there at twenty one. Yeah, but I would take the
Speaker 3: D lineman.
Speaker 2: I still think the defensive line for the same reason.
Speaker 2: I think you can get it back at some point.
Speaker 2: You got Jaleen Warren in your backfield that you you know, hey,
Speaker 2: he can touch the ball two hundred and fifty times.
Speaker 3: Since we're talking about abundance of positions on the way here,
Speaker 3: I was listening Todd McShay was on Ross Tucker's podcast,
Speaker 3: said he has thirty five d line from edge to nose,
Speaker 3: everything in between, just defensive front players. Thirty five guys
Speaker 3: with a top three round grade one out of every
Speaker 3: three picks a lot. But I get it, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: get it. I mean it's a really deep class and
Speaker 3: they're gonna go.
Speaker 2: The edges in particular. I just see edge rushers all
Speaker 2: over this draft. Me to and even like some of
Speaker 2: my a lot of my mock drafts, when we get
Speaker 2: to that sixth or seventh round and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: who's the best player available, it's an edge guy. I'm
Speaker 2: like I don't know that I necessarily need him guy,
Speaker 2: but he'll play special teams. You know, maybe he's better.
Speaker 2: You know, he pushes Jeremiah Moon off the roster or
Speaker 2: makes him the fifth guy Herbig. You know, you don't
Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen there again, Wat's going into his
Speaker 2: the final. You don't know, there's some uncertainty at that
Speaker 2: position for you.
Speaker 3: Sure, right, is her Big going to sign a second contract?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Right, they made some may make him an offer he can't.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a starting caliber player.
Speaker 3: I would have to really look at the teams though,
Speaker 3: but I definitely think to your point, there's more need
Speaker 3: across the thirty one teams an edge than the tackle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of teams have one, but they don't
Speaker 2: have they don't have two.
Speaker 3: Right, But you really help the Steelers at the tackle roar.
Speaker 2: Because of the way the defensive tackles can hold on
Speaker 2: into their thirties, well into their thirties.
Speaker 3: You can do more long jev Yeah, you can.
Speaker 2: You can go get a Devon Godshaw, Oh yeah, he
Speaker 2: can hold down a spot for you and you know,
Speaker 2: or you know, pick somebody.
Speaker 3: Especially with all the noses It's funny. We turned in
Speaker 3: our triple takes the tackles and noses in this tack
Speaker 3: and I guess you and I had like the same
Speaker 3: paragraph written all.
Speaker 2: I had written mine, yeah last week, and I hadn't
Speaker 2: seen yours until last night. And I'm putting it into
Speaker 2: the system and I'm like familiar, and I go up,
Speaker 2: I remind I'm like, you're kind of saying the same
Speaker 2: thing here. It's a lot of the same wording. I'm like, Matt,
Speaker 2: We've been spending way too much time the trailer. But
Speaker 2: it's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is. There are I'm I listed like
Speaker 3: seven noses. I think it'll be like the third and
Speaker 3: fourth round.
Speaker 2: There's probably ten, ten to fifteen true nose tackles in
Speaker 2: this draft that'll get picked, that are going to get picked,
Speaker 2: that could all stick in the NFL. Like they're not
Speaker 2: all going to work out, No.
Speaker 3: But twelve of them you'd like to be Steelers, you know,
Speaker 3: that would be almost guaranteed a roster spot, to be helpful.
Speaker 3: It's kind of not everyone's after a nose, right, you know.
Speaker 2: And and that's the you know, when you look at
Speaker 2: a guy like Kenneth Grant.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can he be. I don't think he's nose only.
Speaker 3: I don't think he is either. But that split my
Speaker 3: tie between Nolan and Grant, and I could be convinced
Speaker 3: that Harmon is worth more than Grant. Yeah, it's what snaps?
Speaker 3: How many snaps canna play?
Speaker 2: Right? That's the thing, right, you know, it goes back
Speaker 2: to what we were talking about. You know, if you're
Speaker 2: going to talk about Graham Mason Graham like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's the opposite. He's a talented player, Yeah, but what's
Speaker 2: his what's his ceiling in this defense?
Speaker 3: I mean he snaps the game and what are all
Speaker 3: his roles? Again, I think Grant, if you were in
Speaker 3: a true three four, I think Grant could be an end.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, but is he going to be one
Speaker 3: of your two pass rushers in Nickel and Dime? Not
Speaker 3: for a while? I mean Cam would have to retire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he may that forward, I have a
Speaker 2: game right, right, But he's not gonna be a primary guy.
Speaker 3: To be a primary guy, he's definitely behind Bent and
Speaker 3: he's definitely behind Cam. Where Nolan would be in the mix,
Speaker 3: Harmon would be in the mix today, right, you know.
Speaker 3: And that's a lot of snaps you know where you're
Speaker 3: at the four man front.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, they don't they only play there
Speaker 2: that that three or four defense is only about twenty
Speaker 2: five percent of what you do. But you better be
Speaker 2: That's why you better be able to do something else.
Speaker 2: I suppose just being a no's that's why if I'm
Speaker 2: taking just a guy who's a pure nose, unless it's
Speaker 2: just a value that I can't you know, I think
Speaker 2: Alfred Collins can rush the passer.
Speaker 3: Right, I think Collins and grand I think.
Speaker 2: Tyler has some has some pass rush potential potential. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, but if there are a true nose, you know,
Speaker 2: and you look at some of these guys are like
Speaker 2: zero career sacks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, and you mentioned if we would
Speaker 3: name you throughout there was a thrower like Lynnvell, Joseph,
Speaker 3: you can Godshaw. Yeah. I mean, I can get a plugger,
Speaker 3: pure run stuff or a handvil in the middle of
Speaker 3: the defense, and that's that's not a hard thing to find.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys hang again, they can play to their forty.
Speaker 3: But I still like the idea of Nolan and Nolan
Speaker 3: and Nolan or Harmon or Grant. But and then fourth
Speaker 3: round Caldwell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know something like that.
Speaker 3: I mean he could be like a second round player,
Speaker 3: I mean West or Caldwell. But you're gonnave him the
Speaker 3: fourth it's yere.
Speaker 2: Right, jump on it because of the way that the
Speaker 2: draft falls. But it's it's uh yeah, three interesting, well,
Speaker 2: two very interesting guys and a third you know, interesting
Speaker 2: because he's a bigger back than what they've been bringing in.
Speaker 3: But again, I think some pigeon holed on this step.
Speaker 2: I think some of that goes in into you know,
Speaker 2: what's available in the draft. You know there are four
Speaker 2: or five bigger backs. I haven't but the majority of
Speaker 2: them are those two hundred and five to two hundred
Speaker 2: and ten pounds.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys just I mean call games more about space. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's easier to get guys in space
Speaker 3: and that type of thing. And I sold Gordon short,
Speaker 3: and frankly, i've sold him short every step of the process.
Speaker 3: I haven't been really impressed.
Speaker 2: He was really good two years ago.
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say, though, Like if you
Speaker 3: look at the way too early mock drafts, it was
Speaker 3: him and Hampton and Judkins as number two behind genty.
Speaker 3: You know, like depending who you liked. I mean, so
Speaker 3: he didn't have a great year. Is there injuries I
Speaker 3: don't know about? Or I mean maybe maybe that's why
Speaker 3: he's in. They're asking them all these questions, you know,
Speaker 3: like can we get the two year ago version in
Speaker 3: the fifth round? Well, now I'm interesting, Yeah, right right.
Speaker 2: So interesting and we'll see how this whole thing plays
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Speaker 3: Guys, are a fantasy fantastic bob.
Speaker 2: But we're now two weeks out from the draft. Are
Speaker 2: you starting to feel the buzz or you've ready to
Speaker 2: for this whole thing.
Speaker 3: To be over?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I'm looking forward to it. I always do.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know that I have a feel
Speaker 4: for how it's going to go, you know, starting with
Speaker 4: you know who the Steelers are going to pick twenty first,
Speaker 4: and then what's going to happen in the first twenty picks.
Speaker 4: You know, I can't remember the last time there was
Speaker 4: a draft where there wasn't a you know, oh my
Speaker 4: god pick you know, at close to the top of
Speaker 4: the first round. And you know, so again, like I said,
Speaker 4: it's look forward to it. I want to see how
Speaker 4: it unfolds, hoping for the best, and you know, I
Speaker 4: just hope that we don't set any records for in
Speaker 4: terms of length, you know, four hours and thirty minutes,
Speaker 4: you know those kind of things. Let me ask you, guys,
Speaker 4: you think there's gonna be a lot of trades in
Speaker 4: the first round.
Speaker 2: You know, I was just writing about that last night
Speaker 2: bomb for my five for Friday. Little side note there
Speaker 2: this is the latest that we've gone into or the
Speaker 2: closest that we've gotten to a draft without with all
Speaker 2: the teams still owning their own spots since nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 2: And so I went back and looked at that ninety
Speaker 2: three draft. Things changed five days before the draft because
Speaker 2: Joe Montana got traded to the Kansas City Chiefs and
Speaker 2: they that was the first round draft pick, so that
Speaker 2: that messed up the order a little bit, But there
Speaker 2: were still eleven draft picks traded in the first round,
Speaker 2: including that that Montana, So there was still some movement
Speaker 2: because you know, you could, as much as you want
Speaker 2: to talk about, you know, best player available and all
Speaker 2: that stuff, teams still draft for need and it's always
Speaker 2: the best player available at any position of need, of course,
Speaker 2: and so you know, if you see a run on
Speaker 2: a certain position and you have a guy that's rated
Speaker 2: that highly, maybe a move.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Maybe teams are also waiting to make sure that
Speaker 4: the guy that they're targeting in their trade up is
Speaker 4: there for them, yeah, before they make any deals, because
Speaker 4: I mean you could think, uh, you know, I'm going
Speaker 4: to trade up to the third spot to the Giants spot,
Speaker 4: and I'll get player X but I mean that doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that he's not picked first or somebody doesn't even
Speaker 4: even if you know what are going to do. Yeah,
Speaker 4: somebody could jump into that spot. So yeah, I you know,
Speaker 4: I think the teams are in terms of maybe waiting
Speaker 4: to pull the trigger on some of these trades. Teams
Speaker 4: are are being you know, purposeful, and you know they
Speaker 4: want who they want maybe before they make a trade,
Speaker 4: and they want to make sure he's there.
Speaker 3: I think another aspect of it is the salary cap
Speaker 3: keeps going up and the league is so profitable right
Speaker 3: now that the Titans aren't up against it and have
Speaker 3: to trade AJ Brown or the Chiefs aren't trading Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3: You know, like there weren't a lot of big time
Speaker 3: players to trade your first round pick for because these
Speaker 3: teams have the money to pay them now.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And the other you know part of that is,
Speaker 4: you know the cap going up is that we didn't
Speaker 4: see any big names cut on March, you know, opening
Speaker 4: of the league year day.
Speaker 3: A lot of times you'll see let's have Rogers character.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard about that.
Speaker 4: You think that move was was salary cap or performance?
Speaker 3: I think it's all the above.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but yeah, I don't think that the Jets
Speaker 4: did that strictly to you know, to become cap compliant, No, no.
Speaker 3: Different.
Speaker 4: I was speaking specifically of those big cap cut, giant cut. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't have to see any of that this year.
Speaker 2: And you saw a lot of teams re sign their own,
Speaker 2: you know, in the hours before free agency began, in
Speaker 2: a lot of money floating around out there, which is
Speaker 2: why to me, Bob, and you know, this wasn't a
Speaker 2: great free agent crop. It just wasn't ain't going to
Speaker 2: get worse and worse because teams can keep them right.
Speaker 2: But that's why I think, and we'll see if you
Speaker 2: agree with me on this one. Maybe the most significant
Speaker 2: move that was made of a guy changing teams and
Speaker 2: a weapon, a skill position player was the Steelers acquiring
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I got to be on it. That was a big move, certainly,
Speaker 4: you know, marquee kind of it was a trade, you know,
Speaker 4: and then the big contract came right on the heels
Speaker 4: of that. But I have to be honest, I'm not
Speaker 4: well versed enough in what was going on league wide
Speaker 4: to certainly, you know, say unequivocally that that was the
Speaker 4: you know, top of the charts move of this free agency,
Speaker 4: but certainly you know it was a significant one historically
Speaker 4: in terms of the Steelers franchise in that you know,
Speaker 4: the amount of money that you know, uh closely followed
Speaker 4: the trade you know, to get DK Metcalf extended. But yeah, maybe, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, I just think that you know, with the
Speaker 4: with the cap going up continuously, teams are also able.
Speaker 4: You know, you can franchise guys without you know, a
Speaker 4: lot of pain because when you franchise tag a guy,
Speaker 4: you know, if he would show up the you know,
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes after you and uh, you know, the franchise
Speaker 4: tag is applied and sign that that's guaranteed money and
Speaker 4: it goes right on your yes. So you know, the
Speaker 4: T Higgins thing is an example. You know, I don't
Speaker 4: think the Bengals had much financial fear or terms well,
Speaker 4: let me say this salary cap financial fear and making
Speaker 4: that move and tagging him and then you know, bought
Speaker 4: him some time and then they worked out the you know,
Speaker 4: the long term deals with him and Jamar Chase to
Speaker 4: keep Joe Burrow happy, which you know, I think is
Speaker 4: a smart move by the Bengals because to me, he is.
Speaker 4: You know, I've told you guys this before. I I
Speaker 4: without doubt he's. In my opinion, he's the best quarterback
Speaker 4: in the AFC North. And you know, if I had
Speaker 4: my pick of anyone in the a f C, I'd
Speaker 4: take him. Now. I'm not gonna I'm not saying at
Speaker 4: the rundown Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. I'm just saying
Speaker 4: my personal likes. I like the way he plays, I
Speaker 4: like the way he.
Speaker 2: Leaves, and you take him over the guy in Kansas City.
Speaker 4: Might me personally. Yes, I'm not a big you know,
Speaker 4: Jake from State Farm. He winds too much for me.
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying he's not a great player, because
Speaker 4: he is. And I just I just like Burrow. You know,
Speaker 4: if it was my team, I owned the franchise, or
Speaker 4: I was the head coach, or you know whatever. I
Speaker 4: just like the way he he plays and he leads.
Speaker 4: He seems to be a fairly low maintenance superstar at
Speaker 4: that position too, which you know is not necessarily the
Speaker 4: norm anywhere anymore either.
Speaker 3: So Labs, the Steelers had a Mary in Hampton And
Speaker 3: today for a visit. Widely regarded first round pick probably
Speaker 3: running back North Carolina and what looks like a really
Speaker 3: really stacked running back class. How much are you prioritize
Speaker 3: in that position for the Steelers Thursday, Friday, Saturday Draft.
Speaker 4: Well, I think they need to get one for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I don't know that you know, if here's the thing,
Speaker 4: If if you're going to pick a running back in
Speaker 4: the first round, I don't think you open the season
Speaker 4: with Jalen Warren as the starter, right, I mean, I
Speaker 4: don't think that that's what you would want to do.
Speaker 4: If you are, if you are content to open the
Speaker 4: season with Jalen Warren as the starter, I think you
Speaker 4: can get yourself a running back later than the twenty
Speaker 4: first overall pick, and you know, do yourself very well
Speaker 4: at that position. So you know, that's the thing. I mean,
Speaker 4: the Steelers tendered him as a restricted free agent with
Speaker 4: a second round number, meaning if you know, he would
Speaker 4: present an offer sheet and the Steelers decided not to match,
Speaker 4: they would get a second round pick. And I think that,
Speaker 4: you know, more significant than that way of looking at
Speaker 4: it is. I don't think there's any teams that are
Speaker 4: going to go out there and think what we're I'm
Speaker 4: willing to give up a second round pick for Jalen Warren, right,
Speaker 4: not in this like you were just Matt, you were
Speaker 4: just talking about the depth and the talent at this
Speaker 4: at that position in this upcoming draft.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he's not going anywhere, right.
Speaker 4: So, like I said, I think you've seen from the
Speaker 4: Steelers standpoint, you've seen things from Jalen Warren in terms
Speaker 4: of his ability to run the ball. He's he's a
Speaker 4: good enough receiver, a very willing and effective blocker. And
Speaker 4: so you know, again, I don't That's the reason I
Speaker 4: don't pick up running back number one because I think
Speaker 4: that I like him as a player and I'm not
Speaker 4: going to relegate him to you know, backup status by
Speaker 4: picking a running back number one.
Speaker 2: Not now anyway, Yeah, I hear you with that. I
Speaker 2: you know, the thing that gets me is a lot
Speaker 2: of people because he wasn't as big as Naujie Harris.
Speaker 2: Look at Jaylen Warren. Well, he's a little back. He's
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifteen and twenty pounds. He's not a
Speaker 2: small running back by by any standard. He's short, but
Speaker 2: he's not small.
Speaker 3: He doesn't go down easily, right, And.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know that it's necessary, you know, Okay,
Speaker 4: Naugy Harris was was bigger, so and I'm just you know,
Speaker 4: playing along along this train of thought. That doesn't mean
Speaker 4: that you have to pack everybody in, you know, tight
Speaker 4: and in short yardage situations either. I mean a lot
Speaker 4: of times guys are most effective in short yardage when
Speaker 4: you spread the defense out and let him pick his
Speaker 4: pick his spot, give him the ball and let him
Speaker 4: you know, run the daylight those speak or you know whatever,
Speaker 4: you know. I just I don't know what the size
Speaker 4: factor how that's important necessarily, Uh, with the exception of
Speaker 4: his durability, uh, you know, And I don't think that
Speaker 4: there's any evidence that Jalen Warren is a China doll.
Speaker 4: He's not a you know, a guy who's often injured.
Speaker 4: And as I said, he's not afraid to step up
Speaker 4: and stick his face in the chest of a blitzing
Speaker 4: linebacker if that's necessary, which I admire. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: don't know what the size factor has to do with it.
Speaker 4: If if you're asking me, you know, if you're gonna
Speaker 4: look for a running back based on a specific skill speed,
Speaker 4: I'd go for that. You want to add a fast,
Speaker 4: breakaway big play kind of guy with speed. That to
Speaker 4: me is a you know something I'd be willing to entertain.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm still not saying I'm doing that
Speaker 4: first round. But in terms of a you know, a
Speaker 4: specific that you don't have at that position speed, I
Speaker 4: don't know who that is.
Speaker 2: There's lots of guys in This was the fastest running
Speaker 2: back group in Combine history this year. Their average forty
Speaker 2: time was four four seven.
Speaker 3: Several of them have been in town.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys can all fly. I mean, the the
Speaker 2: outliers are the four six.
Speaker 4: Guys, and that's that's nice. But playing speed and track
Speaker 4: speed are sometimes two different things. So I hear you,
Speaker 4: But I'm talking about you know, if you want to
Speaker 4: add something that you don't have to me, it would
Speaker 4: be someone who can be a big play running back
Speaker 4: based on using his speed hit a seam. Willie parkersh
Speaker 4: kind of guy. So that's the way I look at
Speaker 4: that position.
Speaker 3: So, Labs, I assume you're in the loop about Pat
Speaker 3: McAfee's got a show tonight. We think we got any
Speaker 3: any news bruin for on a quarterback tonight? Big news coming.
Speaker 4: Not a McAfee fan, I mean God bless him, uh
Speaker 4: for turning.
Speaker 3: You know, illustrious career, right is is uh you know.
Speaker 4: Uh run of the mill talk show into a multi
Speaker 4: million dollar enterprise.
Speaker 2: I mean that's what we're doing here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, If you guys were making that kind of cash,
Speaker 4: you would be wasting your time talking to me. But uh,
Speaker 4: you know, and he's a punter, for goodness sakes. I mean,
Speaker 4: is there a most is there a more non descript
Speaker 4: you know, member of a fifty three man ross?
Speaker 2: Yes, the long snapper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, but at least yeah, okay, I'll give
Speaker 4: you that. I'll give you that. But anyway, you know,
Speaker 4: that was always my theory about why Bill Cower hated punters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be they should they should never be
Speaker 2: seen or heard because if you see him, you're giving
Speaker 2: the ball up. And if you hear any thing from him,
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear anything from the punter.
Speaker 4: Right. Inherently, when you have to use the punter, it
Speaker 4: signals some sort of failure. Yes, you know, because like
Speaker 4: you said, you're giving the ball up, and I would
Speaker 4: imagine that honks off, you know, head coach, just you know,
Speaker 4: as a matter of course, and as you just mentioned
Speaker 4: if you have to hear from him or he shanks
Speaker 4: it or you know, kicks it through the end zone,
Speaker 4: or you know, does something that you would rather he
Speaker 4: didn't he didn't do in that particular circumstance, And yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that that would just kind of fan the
Speaker 4: flames of discontent sort.
Speaker 2: Of speak bob By, one last thing for you. We've
Speaker 2: been talking a lot this week about arm length and
Speaker 2: things of that nature when as it pertains to particularly
Speaker 2: the defensive lineman, because that's what you know, we're kind
Speaker 2: of centered in on here in recent weeks, and we
Speaker 2: did our top twenty one players for the Steelers because
Speaker 2: they have twenty one, they're picking it twenty one one,
Speaker 2: and so we had our twenty one players that we
Speaker 2: would take at twenty one if we were drafting for
Speaker 2: the Steelers, and we didn't include Mason Graham from Michigan,
Speaker 2: who is pretty much the consensus number one defensive tackle
Speaker 2: in this draft, because he has thirty two inch arms
Speaker 2: and he's not a nose tackle and he's probably too
Speaker 2: he doesn't have the length to play defensive end in
Speaker 2: the Steelers three four defense, and we've got a lot
Speaker 2: of pushback on that, but I'm sticking to my guns
Speaker 2: on this. You know, you've got to be big enough
Speaker 2: to ride the ride. If you're gonna be a three
Speaker 2: to four defensive end in this defense, you gotta I'm
Speaker 2: not saying you have to look like step on to it,
Speaker 2: but it's sure as hell doesn't hurt.
Speaker 3: It'd be nice to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm not going to disagree. I will
Speaker 4: be honest, though I don't know nearly enough about you know,
Speaker 4: the sensive line technique and the way what the Steelers
Speaker 4: requires a technique from their defensive lineman to make any
Speaker 4: judgment on arm length. I you know, I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to duct the question. I'm just I'm gonna plead ignorance
Speaker 4: because I don't know what that means. What I have said, though,
Speaker 4: I believe that you cannot have a defensive lineman who
Speaker 4: is one dimensional anymore, because if he can't stop the
Speaker 4: run when he's on the field, that's what the offense
Speaker 4: will do. If he can't rush the passer when he's
Speaker 4: on the field, that's what the team is the offense
Speaker 4: is going to do. And there are no more rules
Speaker 4: about when you run the ball, what areas of the
Speaker 4: field you run the ball, what downs you run the ball.
Speaker 4: That doesn't exist anymore. You know, teams are not afraid
Speaker 4: start first and ten at their own one yard line.
Speaker 4: They'll come mount and spread you out and throw the
Speaker 4: ball over the field. Whereas you know, when Casey Anton
Speaker 4: was a player, you know you pretty much could depend
Speaker 4: on something off tackle. So as I said that that
Speaker 4: those rules are gone, teams offenses have no no shame,
Speaker 4: no conscious conscience about doing things outside the old traditional
Speaker 4: you know, mindset. And so I just think that if
Speaker 4: you're gonna spend, if you're looking for top of the
Speaker 4: depth chart defensive lineman, now they have to be able
Speaker 4: to do both, because you cannot be running them on
Speaker 4: and off the field. Uh, in situations because even if
Speaker 4: you could do that, even if the offense will allow
Speaker 4: you to do that by not using pace, they're they're
Speaker 4: just not They're not going to cooperate with their play calls.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the Aaron Rodgers of the world will make sure
Speaker 2: that guy stays on the field. That's what they do.
Speaker 4: Or you know, you just don't.
Speaker 3: We're never gets on right, never gets on exactly, Bob.
Speaker 2: We will let you go get back to your beautiful
Speaker 2: day of stewing and doing whatever it is you're doing.
Speaker 2: A beautiful day outside, you should probably get outside and
Speaker 2: not shovel snow.
Speaker 4: Cut the grass.
Speaker 2: Now, you gotta cut the grass.
Speaker 3: There cuts coming soon.
Speaker 2: I can't believe we don't make Marianne do any of
Speaker 2: this stuff.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's there's there's services.
Speaker 2: For that kind of there you go, that makes more sense.
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation.
Speaker 2: Radio, and welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and uh well again a beautiful Wednesday
Speaker 2: here in Pittsburgh. We just said a visit from the Emperor,
Speaker 2: and uh can I call him the emperor because that
Speaker 2: was Chuck Knowles. Yeah, I think you're infringing there a
Speaker 2: little bit. Myron came up with that emperor though. If
Speaker 2: you're going to talk about you know, Bob, and Bob's
Speaker 2: not Vader, Bob's the emperor, right, the lightning shooting out
Speaker 2: of his fingers.
Speaker 3: No question, no question. You have the draft, the ring,
Speaker 3: the string. He's the one, the brain's behind the operation.
Speaker 2: That's what Bob is. Matt Jaylen Milroe and Tyler Shuck
Speaker 2: visited the Browns yesterday.
Speaker 3: Makes sense.
Speaker 2: And it's looking more and more like Travis Hunter is
Speaker 2: going to go number two. And I think it's because
Speaker 2: of the foot issue with Carter.
Speaker 3: I just think when you watch Hunter, he just blows
Speaker 3: me away as a prospect on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's clearly the best receiver, clearly
Speaker 3: the best corner. I mean, I don't know if he's
Speaker 3: the best.
Speaker 2: It's a bad it's not a great receiver class, No
Speaker 2: it's not. But I mean he does a lot of
Speaker 2: good things as a receiver, and I get it. But
Speaker 2: if he were a receiver in last year's draft, receiver only, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think he goes ahead of the top two or
Speaker 3: two guys. Maybe a doonsa I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he goes ahead of a done Jay.
Speaker 3: He's got so much ability, He's just not a very
Speaker 3: developed route runner.
Speaker 2: The route running, I don't know how fast he is
Speaker 2: because he's again he's one of these guys that didn't run.
Speaker 3: I'm the slightest bit worried about that.
Speaker 2: I think he can run. Yeah, and you know, you
Speaker 2: see a lot of the Shador Sanders stuff, and there's
Speaker 2: several instances where he's just back there and I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna throw it up for Travis and let him go. Yeah,
Speaker 2: make an adjustment and.
Speaker 3: Bills that offense out a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I get it. I think he's I think
Speaker 2: he's a very good player. But again, it just to me,
Speaker 2: it speaks to this overall draft that do.
Speaker 3: You think the Browns where they're sitting are definitely gonna
Speaker 3: draft one. I mean, if it's Pickett Cousins, I mean,
Speaker 3: if they have Cousins on the back burner, the Schucker
Speaker 3: Milroe make a lot of sense for them in round two.
Speaker 3: Maybe not even the top a round two, but they
Speaker 3: think they have I mean, I know they have plenty
Speaker 3: of other picks.
Speaker 2: I think they would have to get. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't you know, know enough about what
Speaker 2: they want to do in terms of you know, do
Speaker 2: they think Pickett can be a long term answer?
Speaker 3: I bet not.
Speaker 2: I bet not too.
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're happy to give.
Speaker 2: It to him because I really don't have anybody right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they would only go to Cousins if they don't
Speaker 3: draft one.
Speaker 2: You know the question with Cousins, if you make a
Speaker 2: deal with for him, how much of the contract are
Speaker 2: you going to have to pick up? Yeah, if you
Speaker 2: get shut out, you don't have another quarterback on your roster.
Speaker 2: If it's just pick it yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, now the Falcons are going to see that, sure,
Speaker 2: and they're going to say, well, well you got to
Speaker 2: pick it all, you gotta take it all.
Speaker 3: I mean, Atlanta picked up that bonus on Cousins. I
Speaker 3: still think he might get cut. That's why they've been
Speaker 3: linked is the Wilson Well.
Speaker 2: I think they've already told him, not that you're not
Speaker 2: coming to any.
Speaker 3: OTAs he said, he's gonna wave his trade con no
Speaker 3: trade claws, there's no trade clause after the first round.
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to go to another team. It just
Speaker 3: took one in the first round and.
Speaker 2: I get that. Yeah, he just had that happen to him.
Speaker 3: He just went through that. Yeah, I mean, I just
Speaker 3: had a huge deal with Atlanta and he took one
Speaker 3: in the first round.
Speaker 2: So would they would? If you're the Browns, you know,
Speaker 2: and you've got that pick at the top of round too,
Speaker 2: you're going to is that a consideration you're trading that
Speaker 2: pick for.
Speaker 3: I think it's much more likely that you take that
Speaker 3: pick and you go try to get Darter Sanders, That's
Speaker 3: the thing. Yeah, I mean as opposed to taking Shocker Milroe.
Speaker 3: I mean, Shuck and Milroe make a lot more sense
Speaker 3: for the Steelers to be than the Browns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want the developmental guy as opposed to I mean,
Speaker 2: if the Browns do go that route, yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 2: means Kenny Pickett's going to be their starter if.
Speaker 3: They were to go Shuck or Milroy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean unless one of those guys.
Speaker 3: Could be comfortable starting in dart weekles.
Speaker 2: It would have to It would have to also almost
Speaker 2: be a Russell Wilson situation with the Seahawks where he
Speaker 2: just comes in and blows you away and say, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're going to start the kid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right as opposed to pick it right,
Speaker 3: it's a little sticky right now. I mean I would
Speaker 3: take Hunter two at number two, just I think he's
Speaker 3: a rare dude. I would not take Sanders. I don't
Speaker 3: think they're close in terms of just he's like a
Speaker 3: second overall pick. I mean, there's a lot of players
Speaker 3: in between them and this draft.
Speaker 2: And we'll talk more about him tomorrow, assuming his visit
Speaker 2: is announced, a visit Steelers actually takes place.
Speaker 3: He's supposed to come to.
Speaker 2: He's supposed to come tomorrow to the Steelers, Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: So we'll talk more about that then. But it's it's
Speaker 2: you know, when when the other teams in the division
Speaker 2: are trying talking quarterback here, it becomes noteworthy.
Speaker 3: No, no question about it, no question about it. And
Speaker 3: I do think there's a lot of pressure from ownership
Speaker 3: to find the next quarterback in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Well, the pressure from ownership was to go get to
Speaker 2: Shaun Watson and how did that work out?
Speaker 4: Right? Right?
Speaker 3: And that's been part of the problem every step of
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 2: Is all these that to me is kind of why
Speaker 2: cousins to them doesn't make a lot of sense. You're
Speaker 2: already on the hook for a whole bunch of money
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. You need to get cheaper there.
Speaker 3: The beauty of it is why they were linked together
Speaker 3: originally was if Cousins gets cut, well then you're not
Speaker 3: on the book at all. You get to Wilson and.
Speaker 2: He's worked with Stefanski and all right stuff. But if
Speaker 2: you got to take you got to take on eighty
Speaker 2: percent of the contract.
Speaker 3: I mean, if it's twenty million, it's two more than
Speaker 3: they got.
Speaker 2: You're going to spend one hundred million dollars on your courtroom,
Speaker 2: right for mid level quarterback play.
Speaker 3: What's the ideal situation if you're them, take Hunter, trade
Speaker 3: the twenty and take Sanders and don't get involved with Cousins. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Pickett and Sanders.
Speaker 2: Or maybe you like Dart better and you trade up
Speaker 2: to twenty five and go get Yeah, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3: I would bet that's their ideal situation.
Speaker 2: Where do you stay where you're at? And if if
Speaker 2: those guys are gone and you know you got to
Speaker 2: take shuck, okay.
Speaker 3: Just ignore Cousins altogether. Yeah, and just picket and shucked
Speaker 3: Pickett and mill Roe, something like that. I don't think
Speaker 3: that's ideal I don't think that's ideal for this.
Speaker 2: Don't help you win. If you're Stefanski, You're like, I
Speaker 2: might get fired at the end of the year.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you just had this long conversation with Miles
Speaker 3: Garrett about how we're in we got to play. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we're gonna win this year. We'll be competitive. Cousins is
Speaker 3: really the only guy that accomplishes that. The best you
Speaker 3: can be competitive with Kenny Pickett. Yeah, yeah, the Steelers
Speaker 3: showed that. But you have to play a certain way.
Speaker 3: The D would have to be really, really good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: which maybe I would even consider Carter. Well, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: die like Hunter better, but the D could be really
Speaker 3: good with Carter, but Tom.
Speaker 2: Carter standing out for them for what they have on defense,
Speaker 2: Carter would make more sense than.
Speaker 3: Hunter, agreed. I mean, their corner positions pretty.
Speaker 2: Strong, right, and they've got money tied up in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now Newsom's up after the year. Would he go
Speaker 3: for a fourth round pick somewhere?
Speaker 2: But you know, what are you gonna do? Move Hunter
Speaker 2: into the slot? You still don't have a slot.
Speaker 3: You still have a slot, and you've been an issue
Speaker 3: for them for a while. Yeah, I mean the guys
Speaker 3: at the top of the draft aren't perfect for their
Speaker 3: needs for being the number two pack.
Speaker 2: If you take you're gonna make him. You're going to say, Okay,
Speaker 2: your primary position is wide receiver and you're gonna do
Speaker 2: some cornerback stuff because we're set at cornerback. I mean,
Speaker 2: you may be better eventually than some of these guys,
Speaker 2: and maybe you're better right now, but we're gonna have
Speaker 2: to trade one of these guys.
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say too, is I would
Speaker 3: assume they'll ask Hunter to be receiver first.
Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like New England.
Speaker 3: New England definitely was, Yeah, I mean, because their receiver
Speaker 3: is so bad. At least they have Judy and you
Speaker 3: know it's still their receivers aren't great.
Speaker 2: But he's still insistent that he wants to be both
Speaker 2: right now. He wants he wants Roger Goodell when he's
Speaker 2: drafted to announce him as a wide receiver cornerback.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some ego going on there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's earned it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a good player, but he's I get
Speaker 3: no problem with ask that.
Speaker 4: It makes me.
Speaker 2: It also makes me wonder what he's gonna want paid
Speaker 2: in a few years.
Speaker 3: Well, that's gonna be unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And to me, if he hits, is he going to
Speaker 3: make Mahomes money?
Speaker 2: And it's just there's no nobody has done that. No,
Speaker 2: like guys have dabbled in this, dabbled in that, but
Speaker 2: they've never been full time or.
Speaker 3: Even two thirds you know, right, yeah, oh, I know.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see how it plays out. I'm
Speaker 3: so intrigued with them.
Speaker 2: And you may be you know, maybe you do it
Speaker 2: as a you know, twenty one year old, that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean you're gonna be able to do it as a
Speaker 2: twenty five year old, a twenty six year old, a
Speaker 2: twenty seven year old. And the other problem that arises
Speaker 2: is how do I build my roster with that? Because
Speaker 2: if he gets hurt, I'm losing two positions.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, right, I mean it's very dependent on
Speaker 3: it's why so valuable, but it's.
Speaker 2: There's a reason why the NFL doesn't ask guys to
Speaker 2: play two ways anymore.
Speaker 3: Sure, And a lot of it's even just the meeting
Speaker 3: room stuff. Yeah, I mean, just knowing everything you.
Speaker 2: Need rosters expanded. Guy started specializing because you don't, you know,
Speaker 2: we haven't had a two way, a true two way
Speaker 2: player in almost fifty years.
Speaker 3: Right, right, right, and over fifty years, I'm really intrigued
Speaker 3: how it works out. I mean, again, what if you
Speaker 3: just tweak an ankle, do you have the special that week?
Speaker 3: Are you only going to be one side of the
Speaker 3: other or you know, or if.
Speaker 2: You tweak the ankle and you're out for both positions?
Speaker 2: Now like, yeah, I'm losing two starters with one guy.
Speaker 3: With one guy, and I do I have reasonable backups
Speaker 3: at both spots? I don't know. Again, I can't wait
Speaker 3: to see how it works. I think he could really
Speaker 3: be a special player. But the other thing, I think
Speaker 3: Dion came out and said this too. He's like, it's
Speaker 3: harder to do it to college because there's more snaps
Speaker 3: played and there's a lot more hurry up there. There's
Speaker 3: a lot of long commercial breaks.
Speaker 2: I think it's easier because you're not asked to do
Speaker 2: as much coverage wise, the routes are say mentally, it's
Speaker 2: not the same. You're not run out as many routes
Speaker 2: and tackling.
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry either.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Dion flat out told him, if
Speaker 3: you don't get super involved in the run game, so
Speaker 3: be it. But just smart for Colorado, right right, But
Speaker 3: that's not gonna fly at the NFL level.
Speaker 2: No teams will just going to run at them, right Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyways, let's get to a break that's going to
Speaker 2: do it for our number one of the drive here
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be
Speaker 2: back with our number two right after this