1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is 5 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and it is a beautiful Wednesday here 6 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. 7 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, and happy Beast Day to you as well, the 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: beach Day. 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: Happy anniversary. That's anniversary as well, and his beautiful wife 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: Nikki and Steelers have more visitors today. Yeah, let's dig 11 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: right into that is heating up. We're about I think 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: this by my reckoning, we're now had about twenty guys in, 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: so they got ten more visits, give or take. He 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: could have some local guys that come in as well 15 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: that bump that number up even more. Okay, but but 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: that's the is the for that, you know, rest of 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 2: the season. The visits today. Two very significant players coming 18 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: in today, Guys that we have drafted multiple times in 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 2: the first round of our mock drafts. 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, Derek Harmon, defensive tackle from Oregon and Omari and 22 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: Hampton the running back from North Carolina. They also had 23 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: Oli Gordon, running back from Oklahoma State in today. 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: I'm not a huge Gordon fan. We'll get that one 25 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: out of the way. But I do think the fact 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 3: that Gordon and Hampton were here two bigger backs, and 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: I said, they're not married to four to three, you know, accelerator, 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: smaller guy. Although Hampton can still I mean you can scoot. 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: He can going in the first round. Yeah, really good player. 30 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: I wonder how high he'd be up on their twenty 31 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 3: one board, you know what I mean, and probably similar 32 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: to us. I would think, yeah, it'd be really useful 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: for right now. 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: Again, when we did our board, we had Hampton ahead 35 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 2: of him, Hampton ahead of who or we had Harmon 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: ahead of Hampton. 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so all three of the d line. But it 38 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: was not they were always right right, they were close. 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: So it's funny. I did a podcast last night just 40 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: kind of doing a profile on Grant, Nolan and Harmon, 41 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: and basically the whole preface of the podcast is get 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: used to these guys. There's a really good chance this 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: is your first pick. 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I. 45 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: Got tons of feedback. I'm like, Matt, I don't think 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 3: you're reading this right. You know, none of these guys 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: have been in on visits, you know, I'm like, one 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: shows up today yeah, it's not over yet. One shows 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 3: up today. I didn't know that, and I have a 50 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: pretty good idea that they have a pretty good hunt. 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: Who these dudes are. 52 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean if you think about it as well, 53 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 2: you know they went to some of the pro days 54 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: with some of these top guys as well. So you 55 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: don't necessarily you mentioned this last week. If you go 56 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: to their pro day, you talk to him at the Combine, 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 2: you talk to him at the Senior Bowl or wherever else. 58 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: You don't need to bring that guy in for a visit. 59 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: You don't. But actually, as I'm sitting here thinking about it, 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: we know Omar and Tomlin were not at Mississippi. They 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: were not and they were not Michigan. They were not 62 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: because of Rogers. You know, they almost always are coming in. 63 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: Maybe they said are or not. It doesn't mean they're 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 3: they're not interesting. 65 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: And it goes back to what I talked Harmon to me, 66 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: is the best fit if you're looking for a three 67 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: to four defensive end that looks like Cam Hayward, that 68 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: looks like Aaron Smith, that looks like step on to it. Yeah, yeah, 69 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: some of these guys on the arm length of the 70 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: arm length, the height. Everything that's Harmon. 71 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: Is it is He's I like the other two slightly 72 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: better because it hadn't done that. But on the the 73 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: end of the podcast I record yesterday, I'm like, well, 74 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: I should at least rank these three of who I like, 75 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: and I went Nolan, Grant Harmon. But I'm real comfortable 76 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: with all of them. 77 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you mentioned The Beast came out 78 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: today for Dame Bugler's Beast on the Athletic. You can 79 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: always check that out on there. 80 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: It's way more I mean, it's worth than it's worth 81 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: your whole subscription. 82 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: You can sit down and read this thing from now 83 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: and till the start of the draft. Yeah, and maybe 84 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: you might not be done. And what's crazy as Harmon 85 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: reck number two among his defensive tech. 86 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 3: Okay, I have not looked at the rankings yet. That's 87 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: tonight's project. But but the other thing about the Beast 88 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 3: too is his analysis is wonderful. Danes are very good, 89 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: but he does all the background stuff. I say, the 90 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: background is like reading its own novel, Like there's these 91 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: guys different past stuff. 92 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: In there that I didn't like. I was reading a 93 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: Jackson Dartwallers waiting to do the show. I didn't realize 94 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart transferd High School three times. 95 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: Wow, Well I wouldn't. 96 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: People were killing Walton Nolan for that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 97 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: you know, that's just that's today's athlete. 98 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: It is. And one thing I read just in the 99 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: last twenty four hours about in Nolan is one of 100 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: the character things. 101 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 2: I guess. 102 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: He exploded in the Mississippi practice and stormed off one time. 103 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: I don't care. 104 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: So what he's emotional, I really don't care, you know, 105 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: And that doesn't bother me one bit. Yeah it was 106 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 3: on ESPN. 107 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: That's why Mike tom Like gets paid the big bucks 108 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: to deal with. 109 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: That, right, you know. Okay, and a little bit emotional, 110 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: that's fine. Once he got mad at practice, I don't 111 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 3: care if he was emotional, what's that. I'm not comparing 112 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: Walter Nolan to Antonio Brown, but he was emotional. There's 113 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: been some steel emotional dude, James Harrison, et cetera, et cetera. Yeah, 114 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: you got Cam Hayward in that room. They'll be getting 115 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: fifty three new guys every year. There's gonna be some 116 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: guys that have a different absolutely absolutely all three of 117 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: those job. 118 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 2: The head coaches to manage that stuff. 119 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: All three of those guys to me are very, very appealing, 120 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 3: and Harmon would be a great fit. I mean good 121 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 3: that he was in. 122 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Hampton. 123 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 124 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: So when I tweeted that out earlier today that Hampton 125 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: was in for a visit and somebody said, oh, he'd 126 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: be a great complimentary back to Jalen Warren, I'm like, oh, no, 127 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: you got that backwards. 128 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, He's one of the few that would be the 129 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: why he would be the. 130 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: One Jalen would stay in his third down role right 131 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: right right, and Omari and Hampton would be there getting 132 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty to three hundred touch. 133 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: Guy and there would be third downs where Hampton's out 134 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: there too and passing situations invites or so. It's not 135 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: like Warren can't handle first and ten or first, but 136 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: that would be either he would. 137 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: Be rush back. And yes, Jalen Warrem would be your 138 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 2: number two. 139 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: Yes, he's one of the few that I think that's 140 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 3: definitely the case. I'm not sure about the Ohio State guys. 141 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: If I would definitely say that if you use a 142 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 3: first round pick on Hampton. 143 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: That's the thing You're going to give the guy the ball, 144 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: the investment, right right, So that's interesting. I don't know 145 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: that he makes it past Denver at twentieth. That's gonna 146 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: be a tough one. That's a tough one unless they 147 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: decide to go receiver or one of those tight ends. 148 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 3: Are there also. 149 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: Them taking one of those one of those pass catchers 150 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 2: to make life easier on. 151 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely as well. I mean they signed Ingram, but another 152 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: Peyton keeps talking about a weapon, a joker, a joker 153 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. And Hampton's not really 154 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 3: that he catch the ball. Well yeah, but he's not 155 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: Sprolls or even like Camara as a receiver. Yeah. 156 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I could see Peyton in particular wanting to 157 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: recreate what he had. 158 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: I would think with Kamara. But running backs a big 159 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: need for them right now. The copverards pretty bad. 160 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: They also took at one point, they took the Alabama 161 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: running back the grinder, Oh Ingram, you're talking about the 162 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: Saints took Market they took in the first round in 163 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 2: the first round. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of the Omari 164 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: and Hampton. Yeah, except Hampton has more speed, you. 165 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: Say, Hampton's better receiver and even more of a big 166 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: play guy. And Ingram won Heisman in his first round pick. 167 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: But if you remember early on when they had when 168 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 2: they drafted Kamara, they still had Ingram. 169 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 170 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they went with that one two punch. 171 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: Quite a bit, quite a bit. Yeah, So no, I 172 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: there are some landing spots. I mean, I don't know 173 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: that this is the case, but I happened to do 174 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: a podcast this morning with Marcus Mosher. He was on 175 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: our show one time. He locked on Cowboys. He's pretty 176 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: convinced that their first round pick is going to be 177 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: tet or Golden. You know, I thought Hampton could be 178 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 3: a landing spot there. Genti goes the top ten obvious 179 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: need at running back, but he thinks they would go receive. 180 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: And that's why Denver could do the same thing. I 181 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: just think that this year's wide receiver group isn't as 182 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: talented or as deep as we've seen the last few years. 183 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: Maybe they take the other one of those, Yeah, which 184 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: is why the Steelers made the trade for DK medcalf Right. 185 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 3: It's not made a pick from Yeah. 186 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: I think that because you have to dance with what 187 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: you got, you know, And so. 188 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: In the second round, backs for Denver wouldn't be bad. 189 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: No, No, they take Judkins. Andy'd be perfectly happy. 190 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: Johnson. I mean, yeah, there's plenty to pick from, right, 191 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: So I give Hampton a forty percent chance of being 192 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 3: there at twenty one. Yeah, but I would take the 193 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: D lineman. 194 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: I still think the defensive line for the same reason. 195 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 2: I think you can get it back at some point. 196 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: You got Jaleen Warren in your backfield that you you know, hey, 197 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: he can touch the ball two hundred and fifty times. 198 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: Since we're talking about abundance of positions on the way here, 199 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 3: I was listening Todd McShay was on Ross Tucker's podcast, 200 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: said he has thirty five d line from edge to nose, 201 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 3: everything in between, just defensive front players. Thirty five guys 202 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: with a top three round grade one out of every 203 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: three picks a lot. But I get it, Yeah, I 204 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: get it. I mean it's a really deep class and 205 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: they're gonna go. 206 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 2: The edges in particular. I just see edge rushers all 207 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: over this draft. Me to and even like some of 208 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: my a lot of my mock drafts, when we get 209 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: to that sixth or seventh round and I'm like, Okay, 210 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: who's the best player available, it's an edge guy. I'm 211 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 2: like I don't know that I necessarily need him guy, 212 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: but he'll play special teams. You know, maybe he's better. 213 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,719 Speaker 2: You know, he pushes Jeremiah Moon off the roster or 214 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: makes him the fifth guy Herbig. You know, you don't 215 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen there again, Wat's going into his 216 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: the final. You don't know, there's some uncertainty at that 217 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 2: position for you. 218 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 3: Sure, right, is her Big going to sign a second contract? 219 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: Right? 220 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. 221 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: Right, they made some may make him an offer he can't. 222 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: I mean, he's a starting caliber player. 223 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 3: I would have to really look at the teams though, 224 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 3: but I definitely think to your point, there's more need 225 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 3: across the thirty one teams an edge than the tackle. 226 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of teams have one, but they don't 227 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 2: have they don't have two. 228 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: Right, But you really help the Steelers at the tackle roar. 229 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: Because of the way the defensive tackles can hold on 230 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: into their thirties, well into their thirties. 231 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: You can do more long jev Yeah, you can. 232 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: You can go get a Devon Godshaw, Oh yeah, he 233 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: can hold down a spot for you and you know, 234 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: or you know, pick somebody. 235 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: Especially with all the noses It's funny. We turned in 236 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: our triple takes the tackles and noses in this tack 237 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: and I guess you and I had like the same 238 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 3: paragraph written all. 239 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: I had written mine, yeah last week, and I hadn't 240 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: seen yours until last night. And I'm putting it into 241 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 2: the system and I'm like familiar, and I go up, 242 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 2: I remind I'm like, you're kind of saying the same 243 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: thing here. It's a lot of the same wording. I'm like, Matt, 244 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: We've been spending way too much time the trailer. But 245 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: it's true. 246 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is. There are I'm I listed like 247 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: seven noses. I think it'll be like the third and 248 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: fourth round. 249 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: There's probably ten, ten to fifteen true nose tackles in 250 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 2: this draft that'll get picked, that are going to get picked, 251 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: that could all stick in the NFL. Like they're not 252 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: all going to work out, No. 253 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: But twelve of them you'd like to be Steelers, you know, 254 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: that would be almost guaranteed a roster spot, to be helpful. 255 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: It's kind of not everyone's after a nose, right, you know. 256 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: And and that's the you know, when you look at 257 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: a guy like Kenneth Grant. 258 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, can he be. I don't think he's nose only. 259 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: I don't think he is either. But that split my 260 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 3: tie between Nolan and Grant, and I could be convinced 261 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: that Harmon is worth more than Grant. Yeah, it's what snaps? 262 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: How many snaps canna play? 263 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 2: Right? That's the thing, right, you know, it goes back 264 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: to what we were talking about. You know, if you're 265 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: going to talk about Graham Mason Graham like, Okay, yeah, 266 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: he's the opposite. He's a talented player, Yeah, but what's 267 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: his what's his ceiling in this defense? 268 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 3: I mean he snaps the game and what are all 269 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 3: his roles? Again, I think Grant, if you were in 270 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 3: a true three four, I think Grant could be an end. 271 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah you know, but is he going to be one 272 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: of your two pass rushers in Nickel and Dime? Not 273 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: for a while? I mean Cam would have to retire. 274 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he may that forward, I have a 275 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: game right, right, But he's not gonna be a primary guy. 276 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: To be a primary guy, he's definitely behind Bent and 277 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: he's definitely behind Cam. Where Nolan would be in the mix, 278 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 3: Harmon would be in the mix today, right, you know. 279 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: And that's a lot of snaps you know where you're 280 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: at the four man front. 281 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it, they don't they only play there 282 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: that that three or four defense is only about twenty 283 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: five percent of what you do. But you better be 284 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: That's why you better be able to do something else. 285 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: I suppose just being a no's that's why if I'm 286 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 2: taking just a guy who's a pure nose, unless it's 287 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: just a value that I can't you know, I think 288 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: Alfred Collins can rush the passer. 289 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: Right, I think Collins and grand I think. 290 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: Tyler has some has some pass rush potential potential. Yeah, 291 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: I mean, but if there are a true nose, you know, 292 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: and you look at some of these guys are like 293 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 2: zero career sacks. 294 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, and you mentioned if we would 295 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: name you throughout there was a thrower like Lynnvell, Joseph, 296 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 3: you can Godshaw. Yeah. I mean, I can get a plugger, 297 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: pure run stuff or a handvil in the middle of 298 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: the defense, and that's that's not a hard thing to find. 299 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys hang again, they can play to their forty. 300 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 3: But I still like the idea of Nolan and Nolan 301 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 3: and Nolan or Harmon or Grant. But and then fourth 302 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: round Caldwell. 303 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know something like that. 304 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: I mean he could be like a second round player, 305 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 3: I mean West or Caldwell. But you're gonnave him the 306 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: fourth it's yere. 307 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: Right, jump on it because of the way that the 308 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: draft falls. But it's it's uh yeah, three interesting, well, 309 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 2: two very interesting guys and a third you know, interesting 310 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 2: because he's a bigger back than what they've been bringing in. 311 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: But again, I think some pigeon holed on this step. 312 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: I think some of that goes in into you know, 313 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 2: what's available in the draft. You know there are four 314 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 2: or five bigger backs. I haven't but the majority of 315 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: them are those two hundred and five to two hundred 316 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: and ten pounds. 317 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, those guys just I mean call games more about space. Yeah, 318 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's easier to get guys in space 319 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: and that type of thing. And I sold Gordon short, 320 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: and frankly, i've sold him short every step of the process. 321 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,199 Speaker 3: I haven't been really impressed. 322 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: He was really good two years ago. 323 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say, though, Like if you 324 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 3: look at the way too early mock drafts, it was 325 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: him and Hampton and Judkins as number two behind genty. 326 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: You know, like depending who you liked. I mean, so 327 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: he didn't have a great year. Is there injuries I 328 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: don't know about? Or I mean maybe maybe that's why 329 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: he's in. They're asking them all these questions, you know, 330 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: like can we get the two year ago version in 331 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: the fifth round? Well, now I'm interesting, Yeah, right right. 332 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: So interesting and we'll see how this whole thing plays 333 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: out here in a couple of weeks. But he is 334 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale LOLLI you're listening to the 335 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back 336 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: with more right after. 337 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: This at He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 338 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four CE and home of the 339 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 340 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: Dun dunn dun dunt dun dunt, dun't du Welcome back 341 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williamson. 342 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 2: And that music use you in our visitors. There's a 343 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: disturbance in the forest as the Dean of Doom, the 344 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: Lord of Living in his sphears, and the Emperor of 345 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: Steelers football coverage. Bob Labriola joins us here on the 346 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: Justin Miller Hotline. How you doing labs pretty good. 347 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: Guys, are a fantasy fantastic bob. 348 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 2: But we're now two weeks out from the draft. Are 349 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: you starting to feel the buzz or you've ready to 350 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 2: for this whole thing. 351 00:15:58,840 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: To be over? 352 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I'm looking forward to it. I always do. 353 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know that I have a feel 354 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 4: for how it's going to go, you know, starting with 355 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 4: you know who the Steelers are going to pick twenty first, 356 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: and then what's going to happen in the first twenty picks. 357 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 4: You know, I can't remember the last time there was 358 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 4: a draft where there wasn't a you know, oh my 359 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 4: god pick you know, at close to the top of 360 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: the first round. And you know, so again, like I said, 361 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: it's look forward to it. I want to see how 362 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: it unfolds, hoping for the best, and you know, I 363 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 4: just hope that we don't set any records for in 364 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: terms of length, you know, four hours and thirty minutes, 365 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 4: you know those kind of things. Let me ask you, guys, 366 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 4: you think there's gonna be a lot of trades in 367 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 4: the first round. 368 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: You know, I was just writing about that last night 369 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: bomb for my five for Friday. Little side note there 370 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: this is the latest that we've gone into or the 371 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: closest that we've gotten to a draft without with all 372 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 2: the teams still owning their own spots since nineteen ninety three. 373 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: And so I went back and looked at that ninety 374 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: three draft. Things changed five days before the draft because 375 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: Joe Montana got traded to the Kansas City Chiefs and 376 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: they that was the first round draft pick, so that 377 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 2: that messed up the order a little bit, But there 378 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: were still eleven draft picks traded in the first round, 379 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 2: including that that Montana, So there was still some movement 380 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: because you know, you could, as much as you want 381 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 2: to talk about, you know, best player available and all 382 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: that stuff, teams still draft for need and it's always 383 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 2: the best player available at any position of need, of course, 384 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: and so you know, if you see a run on 385 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: a certain position and you have a guy that's rated 386 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: that highly, maybe a move. 387 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. Maybe teams are also waiting to make sure that 388 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 4: the guy that they're targeting in their trade up is 389 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 4: there for them, yeah, before they make any deals, because 390 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 4: I mean you could think, uh, you know, I'm going 391 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,919 Speaker 4: to trade up to the third spot to the Giants spot, 392 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 4: and I'll get player X but I mean that doesn't 393 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 4: mean that he's not picked first or somebody doesn't even 394 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 4: even if you know what are going to do. Yeah, 395 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 4: somebody could jump into that spot. So yeah, I you know, 396 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: I think the teams are in terms of maybe waiting 397 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 4: to pull the trigger on some of these trades. Teams 398 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 4: are are being you know, purposeful, and you know they 399 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: want who they want maybe before they make a trade, 400 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 4: and they want to make sure he's there. 401 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 3: I think another aspect of it is the salary cap 402 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 3: keeps going up and the league is so profitable right 403 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 3: now that the Titans aren't up against it and have 404 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 3: to trade AJ Brown or the Chiefs aren't trading Tyreek Hill. 405 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: You know, like there weren't a lot of big time 406 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 3: players to trade your first round pick for because these 407 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: teams have the money to pay them now. 408 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. And the other you know part of that is, 409 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 4: you know the cap going up is that we didn't 410 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 4: see any big names cut on March, you know, opening 411 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 4: of the league year day. 412 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: A lot of times you'll see let's have Rogers character. 413 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard about that. 414 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: You think that move was was salary cap or performance? 415 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: I think it's all the above. 416 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but yeah, I don't think that the Jets 417 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: did that strictly to you know, to become cap compliant, No, no. 418 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: Different. 419 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 4: I was speaking specifically of those big cap cut, giant cut. Yeah. 420 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't have to see any of that this year. 421 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: And you saw a lot of teams re sign their own, 422 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: you know, in the hours before free agency began, in 423 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: a lot of money floating around out there, which is 424 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: why to me, Bob, and you know, this wasn't a 425 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: great free agent crop. It just wasn't ain't going to 426 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: get worse and worse because teams can keep them right. 427 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: But that's why I think, and we'll see if you 428 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: agree with me on this one. Maybe the most significant 429 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 2: move that was made of a guy changing teams and 430 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: a weapon, a skill position player was the Steelers acquiring 431 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf. 432 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 433 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: I got to be on it. That was a big move, certainly, 434 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 4: you know, marquee kind of it was a trade, you know, 435 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 4: and then the big contract came right on the heels 436 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: of that. But I have to be honest, I'm not 437 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: well versed enough in what was going on league wide 438 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 4: to certainly, you know, say unequivocally that that was the 439 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: you know, top of the charts move of this free agency, 440 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: but certainly you know it was a significant one historically 441 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 4: in terms of the Steelers franchise in that you know, 442 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 4: the amount of money that you know, uh closely followed 443 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:16,239 Speaker 4: the trade you know, to get DK Metcalf extended. But yeah, maybe, uh, 444 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 4: you know, I just think that you know, with the 445 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: with the cap going up continuously, teams are also able. 446 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 4: You know, you can franchise guys without you know, a 447 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 4: lot of pain because when you franchise tag a guy, 448 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 4: you know, if he would show up the you know, 449 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 4: fifteen minutes after you and uh, you know, the franchise 450 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 4: tag is applied and sign that that's guaranteed money and 451 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: it goes right on your yes. So you know, the 452 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 4: T Higgins thing is an example. You know, I don't 453 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 4: think the Bengals had much financial fear or terms well, 454 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 4: let me say this salary cap financial fear and making 455 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 4: that move and tagging him and then you know, bought 456 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 4: him some time and then they worked out the you know, 457 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 4: the long term deals with him and Jamar Chase to 458 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 4: keep Joe Burrow happy, which you know, I think is 459 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 4: a smart move by the Bengals because to me, he is. 460 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 4: You know, I've told you guys this before. I I 461 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 4: without doubt he's. In my opinion, he's the best quarterback 462 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 4: in the AFC North. And you know, if I had 463 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 4: my pick of anyone in the a f C, I'd 464 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 4: take him. Now. I'm not gonna I'm not saying at 465 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 4: the rundown Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. I'm just saying 466 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 4: my personal likes. I like the way he plays, I 467 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 4: like the way he. 468 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 2: Leaves, and you take him over the guy in Kansas City. 469 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 4: Might me personally. Yes, I'm not a big you know, 470 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: Jake from State Farm. He winds too much for me. 471 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying he's not a great player, because 472 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 4: he is. And I just I just like Burrow. You know, 473 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: if it was my team, I owned the franchise, or 474 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 4: I was the head coach, or you know whatever. I 475 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: just like the way he he plays and he leads. 476 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 4: He seems to be a fairly low maintenance superstar at 477 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 4: that position too, which you know is not necessarily the 478 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: norm anywhere anymore either. 479 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: So Labs, the Steelers had a Mary in Hampton And 480 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 3: today for a visit. Widely regarded first round pick probably 481 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 3: running back North Carolina and what looks like a really 482 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 3: really stacked running back class. How much are you prioritize 483 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 3: in that position for the Steelers Thursday, Friday, Saturday Draft. 484 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: Well, I think they need to get one for sure. Yeah, 485 00:23:54,600 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 4: And I don't know that you know, if here's the thing, 486 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: If if you're going to pick a running back in 487 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 4: the first round, I don't think you open the season 488 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 4: with Jalen Warren as the starter, right, I mean, I 489 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 4: don't think that that's what you would want to do. 490 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 4: If you are, if you are content to open the 491 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: season with Jalen Warren as the starter, I think you 492 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 4: can get yourself a running back later than the twenty 493 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 4: first overall pick, and you know, do yourself very well 494 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: at that position. So you know, that's the thing. I mean, 495 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 4: the Steelers tendered him as a restricted free agent with 496 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 4: a second round number, meaning if you know, he would 497 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 4: present an offer sheet and the Steelers decided not to match, 498 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 4: they would get a second round pick. And I think that, 499 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 4: you know, more significant than that way of looking at 500 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: it is. I don't think there's any teams that are 501 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: going to go out there and think what we're I'm 502 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 4: willing to give up a second round pick for Jalen Warren, right, 503 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 4: not in this like you were just Matt, you were 504 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 4: just talking about the depth and the talent at this 505 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 4: at that position in this upcoming draft. 506 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, he's not going anywhere, right. 507 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 4: So, like I said, I think you've seen from the 508 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 4: Steelers standpoint, you've seen things from Jalen Warren in terms 509 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: of his ability to run the ball. He's he's a 510 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 4: good enough receiver, a very willing and effective blocker. And 511 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 4: so you know, again, I don't That's the reason I 512 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 4: don't pick up running back number one because I think 513 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 4: that I like him as a player and I'm not 514 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 4: going to relegate him to you know, backup status by 515 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 4: picking a running back number one. 516 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: Not now anyway, Yeah, I hear you with that. I 517 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: you know, the thing that gets me is a lot 518 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: of people because he wasn't as big as Naujie Harris. 519 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: Look at Jaylen Warren. Well, he's a little back. He's 520 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifteen and twenty pounds. He's not a 521 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: small running back by by any standard. He's short, but 522 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 2: he's not small. 523 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: He doesn't go down easily, right, And. 524 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know that it's necessary, you know, Okay, 525 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 4: Naugy Harris was was bigger, so and I'm just you know, 526 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 4: playing along along this train of thought. That doesn't mean 527 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 4: that you have to pack everybody in, you know, tight 528 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: and in short yardage situations either. I mean a lot 529 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 4: of times guys are most effective in short yardage when 530 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 4: you spread the defense out and let him pick his 531 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 4: pick his spot, give him the ball and let him 532 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 4: you know, run the daylight those speak or you know whatever, 533 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 4: you know. I just I don't know what the size 534 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 4: factor how that's important necessarily, Uh, with the exception of 535 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 4: his durability, uh, you know, And I don't think that 536 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: there's any evidence that Jalen Warren is a China doll. 537 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 4: He's not a you know, a guy who's often injured. 538 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 4: And as I said, he's not afraid to step up 539 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 4: and stick his face in the chest of a blitzing 540 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: linebacker if that's necessary, which I admire. So yeah, I 541 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 4: don't know what the size factor has to do with it. 542 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: If if you're asking me, you know, if you're gonna 543 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 4: look for a running back based on a specific skill speed, 544 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 4: I'd go for that. You want to add a fast, 545 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: breakaway big play kind of guy with speed. That to 546 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 4: me is a you know something I'd be willing to entertain. 547 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 4: I'm not saying I'm still not saying I'm doing that 548 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 4: first round. But in terms of a you know, a 549 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 4: specific that you don't have at that position speed, I 550 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 4: don't know who that is. 551 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: There's lots of guys in This was the fastest running 552 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: back group in Combine history this year. Their average forty 553 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: time was four four seven. 554 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: Several of them have been in town. 555 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, these guys can all fly. I mean, the the 556 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: outliers are the four six. 557 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 4: Guys, and that's that's nice. But playing speed and track 558 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 4: speed are sometimes two different things. So I hear you, 559 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 4: But I'm talking about you know, if you want to 560 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 4: add something that you don't have to me, it would 561 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 4: be someone who can be a big play running back 562 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: based on using his speed hit a seam. Willie parkersh 563 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 4: kind of guy. So that's the way I look at 564 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 4: that position. 565 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: So, Labs, I assume you're in the loop about Pat 566 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: McAfee's got a show tonight. We think we got any 567 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 3: any news bruin for on a quarterback tonight? Big news coming. 568 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 4: Not a McAfee fan, I mean God bless him, uh 569 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 4: for turning. 570 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: You know, illustrious career, right is is uh you know. 571 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 4: Uh run of the mill talk show into a multi 572 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 4: million dollar enterprise. 573 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: I mean that's what we're doing here. 574 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, If you guys were making that kind of cash, 575 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 4: you would be wasting your time talking to me. But uh, 576 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,479 Speaker 4: you know, and he's a punter, for goodness sakes. I mean, 577 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 4: is there a most is there a more non descript 578 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 4: you know, member of a fifty three man ross? 579 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 2: Yes, the long snapper. 580 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, okay, but at least yeah, okay, I'll give 581 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 4: you that. I'll give you that. But anyway, you know, 582 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 4: that was always my theory about why Bill Cower hated punters. 583 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, they should be they should they should never be 584 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: seen or heard because if you see him, you're giving 585 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: the ball up. And if you hear any thing from him, 586 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear anything from the punter. 587 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: Right. Inherently, when you have to use the punter, it 588 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 4: signals some sort of failure. Yes, you know, because like 589 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 4: you said, you're giving the ball up, and I would 590 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 4: imagine that honks off, you know, head coach, just you know, 591 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 4: as a matter of course, and as you just mentioned 592 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 4: if you have to hear from him or he shanks 593 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 4: it or you know, kicks it through the end zone, 594 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 4: or you know, does something that you would rather he 595 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 4: didn't he didn't do in that particular circumstance, And yeah, 596 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: I think that that would just kind of fan the 597 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 4: flames of discontent sort. 598 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 2: Of speak bob By, one last thing for you. We've 599 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: been talking a lot this week about arm length and 600 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: things of that nature when as it pertains to particularly 601 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: the defensive lineman, because that's what you know, we're kind 602 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: of centered in on here in recent weeks, and we 603 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: did our top twenty one players for the Steelers because 604 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: they have twenty one, they're picking it twenty one one, 605 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: and so we had our twenty one players that we 606 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: would take at twenty one if we were drafting for 607 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: the Steelers, and we didn't include Mason Graham from Michigan, 608 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 2: who is pretty much the consensus number one defensive tackle 609 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: in this draft, because he has thirty two inch arms 610 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: and he's not a nose tackle and he's probably too 611 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: he doesn't have the length to play defensive end in 612 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 2: the Steelers three four defense, and we've got a lot 613 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: of pushback on that, but I'm sticking to my guns 614 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: on this. You know, you've got to be big enough 615 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: to ride the ride. If you're gonna be a three 616 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 2: to four defensive end in this defense, you gotta I'm 617 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: not saying you have to look like step on to it, 618 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: but it's sure as hell doesn't hurt. 619 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: It'd be nice to do. 620 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm not going to disagree. I will 621 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 4: be honest, though I don't know nearly enough about you know, 622 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 4: the sensive line technique and the way what the Steelers 623 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 4: requires a technique from their defensive lineman to make any 624 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: judgment on arm length. I you know, I'm not trying 625 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 4: to duct the question. I'm just I'm gonna plead ignorance 626 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 4: because I don't know what that means. What I have said, though, 627 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 4: I believe that you cannot have a defensive lineman who 628 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 4: is one dimensional anymore, because if he can't stop the 629 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 4: run when he's on the field, that's what the offense 630 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 4: will do. If he can't rush the passer when he's 631 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 4: on the field, that's what the team is the offense 632 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 4: is going to do. And there are no more rules 633 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 4: about when you run the ball, what areas of the 634 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: field you run the ball, what downs you run the ball. 635 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 4: That doesn't exist anymore. You know, teams are not afraid 636 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 4: start first and ten at their own one yard line. 637 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 4: They'll come mount and spread you out and throw the 638 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 4: ball over the field. Whereas you know, when Casey Anton 639 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 4: was a player, you know you pretty much could depend 640 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 4: on something off tackle. So as I said that that 641 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 4: those rules are gone, teams offenses have no no shame, 642 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 4: no conscious conscience about doing things outside the old traditional 643 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: you know, mindset. And so I just think that if 644 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: you're gonna spend, if you're looking for top of the 645 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 4: depth chart defensive lineman, now they have to be able 646 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: to do both, because you cannot be running them on 647 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 4: and off the field. Uh, in situations because even if 648 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 4: you could do that, even if the offense will allow 649 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 4: you to do that by not using pace, they're they're 650 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 4: just not They're not going to cooperate with their play calls. 651 00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 652 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, the Aaron Rodgers of the world will make sure 653 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: that guy stays on the field. That's what they do. 654 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 4: Or you know, you just don't. 655 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 3: We're never gets on right, never gets on exactly, Bob. 656 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: We will let you go get back to your beautiful 657 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: day of stewing and doing whatever it is you're doing. 658 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: A beautiful day outside, you should probably get outside and 659 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: not shovel snow. 660 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 4: Cut the grass. 661 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: Now, you gotta cut the grass. 662 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: There cuts coming soon. 663 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 2: I can't believe we don't make Marianne do any of 664 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: this stuff. 665 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 4: I mean, there's there's there's services. 666 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 2: For that kind of there you go, that makes more sense. 667 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 2: Our guest has been Bob Larabiola, editor of Steeler's Digest 668 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 2: and Steelers dot Com, The Dean of Doom, the Lord 669 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 2: of living in his fears, the Emperor of Steeler's coverage. 670 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lollie. He is Matt Williamson, and this is 671 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on Steelers Audio Network. 672 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: We will be back with more right after this. 673 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 674 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 675 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation. 676 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: Radio, and welcome back. I am Dale Lolly. He is 677 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and uh well again a beautiful Wednesday 678 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 2: here in Pittsburgh. We just said a visit from the Emperor, 679 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: and uh can I call him the emperor because that 680 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 2: was Chuck Knowles. Yeah, I think you're infringing there a 681 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 2: little bit. Myron came up with that emperor though. If 682 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 2: you're going to talk about you know, Bob, and Bob's 683 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: not Vader, Bob's the emperor, right, the lightning shooting out 684 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: of his fingers. 685 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 3: No question, no question. You have the draft, the ring, 686 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 3: the string. He's the one, the brain's behind the operation. 687 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 2: That's what Bob is. Matt Jaylen Milroe and Tyler Shuck 688 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: visited the Browns yesterday. 689 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 3: Makes sense. 690 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: And it's looking more and more like Travis Hunter is 691 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: going to go number two. And I think it's because 692 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 2: of the foot issue with Carter. 693 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 3: I just think when you watch Hunter, he just blows 694 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: me away as a prospect on both sides of the ball. 695 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's clearly the best receiver, clearly 696 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 3: the best corner. I mean, I don't know if he's 697 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 3: the best. 698 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 2: It's a bad it's not a great receiver class, No 699 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: it's not. But I mean he does a lot of 700 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 2: good things as a receiver, and I get it. But 701 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: if he were a receiver in last year's draft, receiver only, yeah, I. 702 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 3: Don't think he goes ahead of the top two or 703 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 3: two guys. Maybe a doonsa I don't know. 704 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if he goes ahead of a done Jay. 705 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 3: He's got so much ability, He's just not a very 706 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 3: developed route runner. 707 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 2: The route running, I don't know how fast he is 708 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: because he's again he's one of these guys that didn't run. 709 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 3: I'm the slightest bit worried about that. 710 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: I think he can run. Yeah, and you know, you 711 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: see a lot of the Shador Sanders stuff, and there's 712 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: several instances where he's just back there and I'm just 713 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 2: gonna throw it up for Travis and let him go. Yeah, 714 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 2: make an adjustment and. 715 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 3: Bills that offense out a lot. 716 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I get it. I think he's I think 717 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: he's a very good player. But again, it just to me, 718 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: it speaks to this overall draft that do. 719 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 3: You think the Browns where they're sitting are definitely gonna 720 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 3: draft one. I mean, if it's Pickett Cousins, I mean, 721 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 3: if they have Cousins on the back burner, the Schucker 722 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 3: Milroe make a lot of sense for them in round two. 723 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 3: Maybe not even the top a round two, but they 724 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 3: think they have I mean, I know they have plenty 725 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 3: of other picks. 726 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 2: I think they would have to get. I don't know. 727 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't you know, know enough about what 728 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: they want to do in terms of you know, do 729 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,879 Speaker 2: they think Pickett can be a long term answer? 730 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: I bet not. 731 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: I bet not too. 732 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,760 Speaker 3: I'm sure they're happy to give. 733 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: It to him because I really don't have anybody right now. 734 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, they would only go to Cousins if they don't 735 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: draft one. 736 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: You know the question with Cousins, if you make a 737 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 2: deal with for him, how much of the contract are 738 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 2: you going to have to pick up? Yeah, if you 739 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 2: get shut out, you don't have another quarterback on your roster. 740 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 2: If it's just pick it yeah. 741 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 742 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: Well, now the Falcons are going to see that, sure, 743 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 2: and they're going to say, well, well you got to 744 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 2: pick it all, you gotta take it all. 745 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 3: I mean, Atlanta picked up that bonus on Cousins. I 746 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 3: still think he might get cut. That's why they've been 747 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 3: linked is the Wilson Well. 748 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: I think they've already told him, not that you're not 749 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 2: coming to any. 750 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 3: OTAs he said, he's gonna wave his trade con no 751 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 3: trade claws, there's no trade clause after the first round. 752 00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to go to another team. It just 753 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 3: took one in the first round and. 754 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,799 Speaker 2: I get that. Yeah, he just had that happen to him. 755 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 3: He just went through that. Yeah, I mean, I just 756 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 3: had a huge deal with Atlanta and he took one 757 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 3: in the first round. 758 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 2: So would they would? If you're the Browns, you know, 759 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 2: and you've got that pick at the top of round too, 760 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: you're going to is that a consideration you're trading that 761 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: pick for. 762 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 3: I think it's much more likely that you take that 763 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 3: pick and you go try to get Darter Sanders, That's 764 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 3: the thing. Yeah, I mean as opposed to taking Shocker Milroe. 765 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 3: I mean, Shuck and Milroe make a lot more sense 766 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 3: for the Steelers to be than the Browns. 767 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want the developmental guy as opposed to I mean, 768 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 2: if the Browns do go that route, yeah, yeah, that 769 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 2: means Kenny Pickett's going to be their starter if. 770 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 3: They were to go Shuck or Milroy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 771 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: I mean unless one of those guys. 772 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 3: Could be comfortable starting in dart weekles. 773 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: It would have to It would have to also almost 774 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 2: be a Russell Wilson situation with the Seahawks where he 775 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 2: just comes in and blows you away and say, Okay, 776 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 2: we're going to start the kid. 777 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right as opposed to pick it right, 778 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 3: it's a little sticky right now. I mean I would 779 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 3: take Hunter two at number two, just I think he's 780 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 3: a rare dude. I would not take Sanders. I don't 781 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 3: think they're close in terms of just he's like a 782 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 3: second overall pick. I mean, there's a lot of players 783 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 3: in between them and this draft. 784 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: And we'll talk more about him tomorrow, assuming his visit 785 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 2: is announced, a visit Steelers actually takes place. 786 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 3: He's supposed to come to. 787 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 2: He's supposed to come tomorrow to the Steelers, Okay, okay, 788 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 2: So we'll talk more about that then. But it's it's 789 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 2: you know, when when the other teams in the division 790 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 2: are trying talking quarterback here, it becomes noteworthy. 791 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 3: No, no question about it, no question about it. And 792 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 3: I do think there's a lot of pressure from ownership 793 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,240 Speaker 3: to find the next quarterback in Cleveland. 794 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 2: Well, the pressure from ownership was to go get to 795 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 2: Shaun Watson and how did that work out? 796 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 4: Right? Right? 797 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 3: And that's been part of the problem every step of 798 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: the way. 799 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: Is all these that to me is kind of why 800 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 2: cousins to them doesn't make a lot of sense. You're 801 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 2: already on the hook for a whole bunch of money 802 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. You need to get cheaper there. 803 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 3: The beauty of it is why they were linked together 804 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 3: originally was if Cousins gets cut, well then you're not 805 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 3: on the book at all. You get to Wilson and. 806 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 2: He's worked with Stefanski and all right stuff. But if 807 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 2: you got to take you got to take on eighty 808 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 2: percent of the contract. 809 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 3: I mean, if it's twenty million, it's two more than 810 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 3: they got. 811 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: You're going to spend one hundred million dollars on your courtroom, 812 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 2: right for mid level quarterback play. 813 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,720 Speaker 3: What's the ideal situation if you're them, take Hunter, trade 814 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 3: the twenty and take Sanders and don't get involved with Cousins. Yeah, 815 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,959 Speaker 3: Pickett and Sanders. 816 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 2: Or maybe you like Dart better and you trade up 817 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 2: to twenty five and go get Yeah, yeah, something like that. 818 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 3: I would bet that's their ideal situation. 819 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 2: Where do you stay where you're at? And if if 820 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 2: those guys are gone and you know you got to 821 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 2: take shuck, okay. 822 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,240 Speaker 3: Just ignore Cousins altogether. Yeah, and just picket and shucked 823 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 3: Pickett and mill Roe, something like that. I don't think 824 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 3: that's ideal I don't think that's ideal for this. 825 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 2: Don't help you win. If you're Stefanski, You're like, I 826 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 2: might get fired at the end of the year. 827 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 828 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you just had this long conversation with Miles 829 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 3: Garrett about how we're in we got to play. Yeah, yeah, 830 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 3: we're gonna win this year. We'll be competitive. Cousins is 831 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 3: really the only guy that accomplishes that. The best you 832 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 3: can be competitive with Kenny Pickett. Yeah, yeah, the Steelers 833 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,839 Speaker 3: showed that. But you have to play a certain way. 834 00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 3: The D would have to be really, really good. Yeah, 835 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 3: which maybe I would even consider Carter. Well, I wouldn't 836 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 3: die like Hunter better, but the D could be really 837 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 3: good with Carter, but Tom. 838 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 2: Carter standing out for them for what they have on defense, 839 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: Carter would make more sense than. 840 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 3: Hunter, agreed. I mean, their corner positions pretty. 841 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 2: Strong, right, and they've got money tied up in it. 842 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. Now Newsom's up after the year. Would he go 843 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 3: for a fourth round pick somewhere? 844 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 2: But you know, what are you gonna do? Move Hunter 845 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 2: into the slot? You still don't have a slot. 846 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 3: You still have a slot, and you've been an issue 847 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 3: for them for a while. Yeah, I mean the guys 848 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 3: at the top of the draft aren't perfect for their 849 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 3: needs for being the number two pack. 850 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 2: If you take you're gonna make him. You're going to say, Okay, 851 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 2: your primary position is wide receiver and you're gonna do 852 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 2: some cornerback stuff because we're set at cornerback. I mean, 853 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 2: you may be better eventually than some of these guys, 854 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 2: and maybe you're better right now, but we're gonna have 855 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,839 Speaker 2: to trade one of these guys. 856 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say too, is I would 857 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 3: assume they'll ask Hunter to be receiver first. 858 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, kind of like New England. 859 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 3: New England definitely was, Yeah, I mean, because their receiver 860 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 3: is so bad. At least they have Judy and you 861 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 3: know it's still their receivers aren't great. 862 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 2: But he's still insistent that he wants to be both 863 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: right now. He wants he wants Roger Goodell when he's 864 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: drafted to announce him as a wide receiver cornerback. 865 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 866 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some ego going on there. 867 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's earned it. 868 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 2: I get it. 869 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 3: I mean, he's a good player, but he's I get 870 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 3: no problem with ask that. 871 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 4: It makes me. 872 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 2: It also makes me wonder what he's gonna want paid 873 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 2: in a few years. 874 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 3: Well, that's gonna be unbelievable. 875 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:22,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 876 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 3: And to me, if he hits, is he going to 877 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 3: make Mahomes money? 878 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 2: And it's just there's no nobody has done that. No, 879 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 2: like guys have dabbled in this, dabbled in that, but 880 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 2: they've never been full time or. 881 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 3: Even two thirds you know, right, yeah, oh, I know. 882 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 3: I can't wait to see how it plays out. I'm 883 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 3: so intrigued with them. 884 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 2: And you may be you know, maybe you do it 885 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 2: as a you know, twenty one year old, that doesn't 886 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: mean you're gonna be able to do it as a 887 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 2: twenty five year old, a twenty six year old, a 888 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 2: twenty seven year old. And the other problem that arises 889 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 2: is how do I build my roster with that? Because 890 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 2: if he gets hurt, I'm losing two positions. 891 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, right, I mean it's very dependent on 892 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 3: it's why so valuable, but it's. 893 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: There's a reason why the NFL doesn't ask guys to 894 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 2: play two ways anymore. 895 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 3: Sure, And a lot of it's even just the meeting 896 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 3: room stuff. Yeah, I mean, just knowing everything you. 897 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 2: Need rosters expanded. Guy started specializing because you don't, you know, 898 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: we haven't had a two way, a true two way 899 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 2: player in almost fifty years. 900 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 3: Right, right, right, and over fifty years, I'm really intrigued 901 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 3: how it works out. I mean, again, what if you 902 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 3: just tweak an ankle, do you have the special that week? 903 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 3: Are you only going to be one side of the 904 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 3: other or you know, or if. 905 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 2: You tweak the ankle and you're out for both positions? 906 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 2: Now like, yeah, I'm losing two starters with one guy. 907 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,720 Speaker 3: With one guy, and I do I have reasonable backups 908 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 3: at both spots? I don't know. Again, I can't wait 909 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 3: to see how it works. I think he could really 910 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 3: be a special player. But the other thing, I think 911 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 3: Dion came out and said this too. He's like, it's 912 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 3: harder to do it to college because there's more snaps 913 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 3: played and there's a lot more hurry up there. There's 914 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 3: a lot of long commercial breaks. 915 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 2: I think it's easier because you're not asked to do 916 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 2: as much coverage wise, the routes are say mentally, it's 917 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 2: not the same. You're not run out as many routes 918 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 2: and tackling. 919 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 3: Derrick Henry either. 920 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:03,919 Speaker 2: Yeah. 921 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think Dion flat out told him, if 922 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 3: you don't get super involved in the run game, so 923 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 3: be it. But just smart for Colorado, right right, But 924 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 3: that's not gonna fly at the NFL level. 925 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 2: No teams will just going to run at them, right Yeah. 926 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: So anyways, let's get to a break that's going to 927 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 2: do it for our number one of the drive here 928 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be 929 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 2: back with our number two right after this