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Speaker 2: Now on the show, I'm really excited because I'm not

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Speaker 2: ruv via zoom looking out pretty doing her thing over

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Speaker 2: there joining Connor and I, oh looking out pretty with

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Speaker 2: Of course, Connor is are engineer and Ruvey's been working

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Speaker 2: When I say naturally believe with plant, you just what

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Speaker 2: I say. I bring this up only because she's wearing

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Speaker 2: I love her without any makeup, and she rocks it

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Speaker 2: Well because it's the truth. And when I see you

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Speaker 2: almost one of the funniest things ever because I know

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Speaker 2: I've spent many hours on the phone with you at

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Speaker 5: Thing absolutely, And you know, I think, you know, Nicholas

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Speaker 2: that Connor broke down. Ever, we're gonna break this down

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Speaker 2: you guys so much for helping us do everything that

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Speaker 2: you do. But as hip really making a comeback. With's

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Speaker 6: Hemp's making a comeback, just straight up.

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Speaker 2: And hemp is like, ll it's been in the game

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Speaker 5: No, it's been there since the dawn of time, and

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Speaker 5: So let me just give you the title off the top.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Oh, we'll make up for what we couldn't

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Speaker 6: You shouldn't know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: He's one of the biggest, of course names in our industry.

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Speaker 4: and he focuses on him. That book is the one

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Speaker 4: that changed my mind in the industry, and it's one

434
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 4: of the reasons why I became so heavily passionate about it,

435
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 4: because it's not just the cannabis, the hemp itself, the

436
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 4: fact that it's kind of cousins to cannabis. It's still

437
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 4: a part of us. So you need the earth to

438
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 4: grow it, You need the sun to grow it, just

439
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,679
Speaker 4: like we need earth in the sun, you know. And

440
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 4: so to know that there's a plant that not only

441
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 4: helps you as a human being, but it helps your

442
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 4: environment and for us to be able to have a

443
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 4: sustainable life without messing up our earth. Why are we

444
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 4: not on with this?

445
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Speaker 6: I know, right, And it's just.

446
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: Read that book. Actually, yeah, I never read that book.

447
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 2: I kind of want to read it. I've heard of

448
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: it and I've met it, Like you know, I want

449
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: to I want to read that full book.

450
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 4: Actually you should, and I know for a fact that

451
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 4: once you read it, we'll have a lot more hemp conversations.

452
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 4: Because it's just going to spark so many even business ideas,

453
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 4: like I was telling Connor earlier, you know, like right now,

454
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 4: I'm currently fascinated with hem cree And not a lot

455
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 4: of people really know about hem cree. But it's better

456
00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 4: and sturdier than regular concrete. And here in California were

457
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 4: known for earthquakes. Hemp create is actually a lot more

458
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 4: durable during earthquakes. It's somewhat fire resistant, and it's mold

459
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 4: and mildew resistant. So why are we not using hemp crete?

460
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 4: You know? It just blows my mind. And I think

461
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 4: a lot of it has to do with how the

462
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 4: government made cannabis recreational instead of it being medicinal and

463
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 4: rescheduled it.

464
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Speaker 5: You know totally, and like I you know, I just

465
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 5: think that they, like I said before, the use cases,

466
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 5: the use case amount and quantity for hemp is ridiculous.

467
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 5: Like if they were to use hemp concrete, then like

468
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 5: all of these like government contracted companies who pave the

469
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 5: road won't have jobs. Those contracts don't go through. That

470
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 5: doesn't make it. It's all it's financially related. And it's

471
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 5: sad to see that, you know, something that like we've

472
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 5: devolved so far from like a natural state of things,

473
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 5: just bro exactly, like due to like a financial due

474
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 5: to financial gain. Like that's just purely how I'm how

475
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 5: I see it of you know there it's too efficient

476
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 5: for society for people for it to it would work.

477
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 2: I think you just hit it on the head, right,

478
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: It's like follow the numbers, right, follow the money if

479
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 2: you look at that and think of that, and then

480
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 2: you think of anything in life, right, follow the money.

481
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: And I feel like that's the case with this and

482
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: with everything in line, right, who is running the politics,

483
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 2: who's running the medical who is ready to follow the money?

484
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: The himp thing, follow the money. And it's like, as

485
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: you say that about these concrete things, I'm gonna bring

486
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: this up ready for this. A lot of these concrete companies,

487
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 2: a lot of these are ran by who and what.

488
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 2: It's not just Vegas that the Mob started this. It's

489
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: New York as well, So the Mob still has the

490
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: hands and a lot of these little, not little, these

491
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: big companies and countries in this. When you say concrete

492
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: like that, it's a different animal, right, concrete or what

493
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: related type of company?

494
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 5: Teamsters, unions, It's I'm just way.

495
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: More it is.

496
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 6: You know. That's why it's so hard.

497
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 2: So see differently when you say this, because of course

498
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: they don't want that. So now what's crazy is you're

499
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 2: gonna have these type of unions and teamsters and they

500
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 2: going against the other ones. I like, wait a minute,

501
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: we're trying to do that. We're trying. I mean, so

502
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 2: it's going to be it's all going to come out

503
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: because like we've seen and know, the stories are there

504
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: and the proof is out. You can no longer hide

505
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 2: this any longer. It is not bad for us. It

506
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: is not bad for the government, it's not bad for

507
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: the country. It's not bad for kids. It's not bad

508
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: to make comfries, not bad to make clothes. It's great,

509
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: it is, and we're seeing it, and it's gonna, unfortunately

510
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 2: take down some of those other companies. And I feel

511
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: bad for those people in those companies. I swear to

512
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 2: got to do.

513
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 4: I wouldn't too bad because I think one of the

514
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 4: other reasons why hamp is going to make such a

515
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 4: big comeback is I feel that we've already fludged up

516
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: our earth. There's a lot of things that are going

517
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 4: wrong with Mother Nature, and a lot of those believe

518
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 4: it or not, will be aided with hemp and cannabis

519
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 4: being planted all around. You know a lot of people

520
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 4: you know always say that I'm a potheit and they

521
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 4: laugh at me. But it just sucks that something that

522
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 4: was engineered to be a part of life and to

523
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 4: help sustain life is now looked at as taboos. So

524
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 4: I'm just sitting back and getting ready for everything else

525
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 4: to kind of turn back, because now people are looking

526
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 4: for solutions because we need our earth. So now people

527
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 4: are going to be a little more. It's like, oh,

528
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 4: I'm kind of forced to, you know.

529
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 6: Do the right thing totally. So I think, well, we're

530
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 6: squabbling over here.

531
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 5: If you're smart, you're going over to Germany, Luxembourg, Malta,

532
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,719
Speaker 5: the Netherlands, some somewhere over there, because that's where it's

533
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 5: about a question hip.

534
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 6: Buy some hemp, grow f some hamp do.

535
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: Whatever you want. We need a great hand story, you

536
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: guys that we come back. We have a major window

537
00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: for the industry as the DCC cracks down on licensed

538
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: cannabis labs producing what big results we've heard of this

539
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Speaker 2: We're to talk more about it Cannabis Talk one on one.

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Speaker 2: Right back after this break.

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Speaker 2: the Foxfirm dot com. And that's with two exits. I

561
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: just want to thank Ruby and of course Connor for

562
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: joining me today blues out, But I want to shout

563
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: out of course Daniel for sitting down holding it down

564
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: over there. But Connor, you've gotten so many great stories.

565
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: I want to give you one more because you're just

566
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: so locked and loaded and prepped it. I know Ruby's

567
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: going to surprise us and another show with some stuff,

568
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 2: and I got some stuff for you guys like Tyson,

569
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: all kinds of other stuff in Florida. But you are

570
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: coming strong today, my friend. And you have something about

571
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: the DCC provoking licensing to produce doctor results, which is

572
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: a win for the industry. What do you got here,

573
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: young man?

574
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Speaker 6: Correct?

575
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: And yes, we all have been pretty locked in and

576
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 5: we got some we got some more groundwork for but

577
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 5: we're doing a good job. And the last segment for

578
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 5: today is that, like Joe stated, the DCC has been

579
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 5: cracking down on labs who are doctoring tests and just

580
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 5: off the top of you know, seeing that face value,

581
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 5: I think that is a massive win for our industry

582
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 5: because you need to have trust. The main foundation of

583
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 5: all of this is trust that you can trust the

584
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 5: product that you're ingesting in your body. And so how

585
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 5: are you supposed to trust when like four steps previous

586
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 5: to where you're buying it fails there, that's the weak link.

587
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 5: How are you supposed to then verify and you know,

588
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 5: be okay with then the product going through like three

589
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 5: more steps then ending up on the shelf when like

590
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 5: the bud tender doesn't even know what's in it or

591
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 5: like who tested it, what it's sprayed with, like they know,

592
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 5: it loses track Like there. You know, I think that

593
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 5: it is you know, critical for us, Like we're California

594
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 5: is the gold standard of cannabis. You know, we're just

595
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 5: putting it out there that you know pretty much, you know,

596
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 5: we've pioneered this game for the most part, like you know,

597
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 5: we need to set an example for the world of

598
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 5: you know, how this is supposed to operate. You know,

599
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 5: we're the ones who set this down right, and like

600
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 5: we're we look like clowns to the rest of the

601
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 5: world when you know, we can't even get our own

602
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 5: product tested right, and we're trying to get this to

603
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 5: be a federally legal thing when we can't even do

604
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 5: it state by state properly.

605
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 4: And that sucks because I think one of the biggest

606
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 4: things that played into that manipulating the testing is the

607
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: fact that people didn't know how to purchase cannabis, so

608
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: they assume that anything that's high in TC is the best.

609
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 4: And that was the biggest misconception about lab results. And

610
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 4: you would see people come in, Oh, I want something

611
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: that's thirty five percent. We're something that's twelve percent can

612
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 4: offer you better medicinal effects because of the terpene. And

613
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 4: then we've talked about this on other shows, you know,

614
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 4: and I think that was one of the biggest contributors

615
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: to allowing people to kind of mess with the results

616
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: because people that were you would come into the dispensary

617
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 4: and instead of asking or telling you, hey, I have

618
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 4: a headache, I need something that's going to help with

619
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 4: this this, and that they'll come in and say, give

620
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 4: me your highest TC percentage. So that one made it

621
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 4: easy for the book.

622
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: What do you think when you hear people say that

623
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: though Ruvie as you like, you think they're.

624
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: I think they're uneducated, and I want to educate them because.

625
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: Okay, look I walk in. Let's just play role play shot. Okay,

626
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: Hi Rufey, Oh my god, I'm so happy you're working

627
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: here today. I've been wanting to come to you know,

628
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: mister green Thumb's place for so long. I'm such a

629
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: big ziprs sofa and I love you real. Does he

630
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: ever come here?

631
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: Yes, he actually comes unannounced very quite often.

632
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: Oh well, I hope. Well what's your highest grade cannabis? Shiit?

633
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: What's the highest percentage you have? Because I really want

634
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: to get ripped tonight.

635
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: So right there, the first thing you'll notice is you'll

636
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: lose my smile because the minute that anyone asked me

637
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 4: was the highest t percentage. I already know you're not educated,

638
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 4: and it doesn't.

639
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: Make somebody would come in and what I said happens

640
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: right what the yes?

641
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 4: And what I do is if I want to make

642
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: a quick sell, I'm going to sell you this Ted Buds,

643
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 4: which is a great strain, a great brand, but I'm

644
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 4: gonna sell you this Ted Bud that's testing thirty five,

645
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 4: but it's seventy five dollars out the door, instead of

646
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 4: giving you this Pacific Stone, which is another amazing brand

647
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: that tested at twenty percent, but it's going to give

648
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 4: you more medicinal value because of the terpen qualities, of course,

649
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 4: And that was the biggest thing that you would see.

650
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Speaker 4: So people would come in not knowing how to ask

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Speaker 4: or how to buy, and they walk out pain over

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Speaker 4: the price. And when they go home and they use

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Speaker 4: it and it doesn't help them, they come back and

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00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: they blame the bud tender and then they blame the

655
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: dispensary when it's really you. You should have came in

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Speaker 4: and said, hey, I want something to distress or for

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Speaker 4: pain or whatever it is totally and then you know

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Speaker 4: your bud tender, hoping that they're educated they'll guide you

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Speaker 4: the right way. But it's just so easy for a

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Speaker 4: bud tender to take advantage of someone that says, what's

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Speaker 4: your highest percentage?

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Speaker 6: So sure, I think.

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Speaker 4: That's why labs allowed that to happen. There was probably

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Speaker 4: more money being paid because it allowed certain brands to

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Speaker 4: be sold faster than the others.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and if we look at the root cause of it,

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Speaker 5: it could be that this testing lab was struggling to

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00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 5: pay their licensing fees and you know, pay their rent whatever.

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Speaker 5: It's not an excuse to do that. And let's I

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Speaker 5: want to get into the nuts and bolts of this.

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Speaker 5: And you know who got flagged for it and what

672
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 5: they were flagged for. So it was California Cannabis Testing

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Speaker 5: Labs CCTL, and the DCC decided to cancel their license.

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Speaker 5: According to the letter, the DCC canceled the lab's provisional

675
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Speaker 5: license and denied its application for annual license for the

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Speaker 5: reasons of deliberately faking bent sheet records for pest sides

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Speaker 5: and micotoxins, retesting samples to produce false and artificially inflated

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Speaker 5: levels of THHC, and manipulating lab equipment to be able

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00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 5: to detect solvents and pesticides identified as cancer risks by

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Speaker 5: the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention.

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Speaker 4: So that makes it even worse because I completely spaced

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Speaker 4: out about the whole pesticide. Which makes it worse because

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Speaker 4: now you have an ill patient that is coming in

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Speaker 4: as a patient, and let's say they have some sort

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Speaker 4: of respiratory illness, and we sell them a product that

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Speaker 4: we think was properly tested and it contains some sort

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Speaker 4: of mold or pesticide that's going.

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Speaker 6: To affect their health absolutely.

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Speaker 4: And me, I enter the industry because I love helping,

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Speaker 4: So it would have put me up against the wall

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Speaker 4: because here I am trying to help you, thinking that

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Speaker 4: what we're selling you is following these guidelines that were

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Speaker 4: in post that made us you know, this is what

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Speaker 4: you have to do in order to run legally. It

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00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: just puts you in a really tough position. And I

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Speaker 4: see why there's so many beautiful, big brands that kind

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Speaker 4: of you know, left the industry and made it impossible

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Speaker 4: for people to kind of make it a living.

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Speaker 6: For sure, for sure. And the last part, I.

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Speaker 2: Hope they catch more people because bottom line, I said,

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Speaker 2: they've caught twenty alleged violations.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised of every lab. Maybe there's probably

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00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 4: a handful that didn't because there's a handful of people

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Speaker 4: in the industry that have integrity and they're honest.

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Speaker 5: Anyways, absolutely not for sure, and you know, it's just

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Speaker 5: like I said, it's discouraging to see. For you know,

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Speaker 5: we're supposed to be the example setter for for this plant,

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Speaker 5: but it's not.

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Speaker 6: Looking like that.

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00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 5: When a test conducted later by the state on samples

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00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 5: collected from the same batch from UH the DCC crackdown,

712
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 5: and it found the test found nearly six hundred times

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Speaker 5: the amount of chloro fenneper allowed under state law, which.

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Speaker 6: Is a harmful chemical.

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Speaker 5: And so you know that is you know, demotivating and

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Speaker 5: discouraging and I but I think ultimately this news is

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00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 5: the win for the industry, like we were saying previously,

718
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 5: because this is because of the like we said, the

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Speaker 5: trust it needs to be there. You need to be

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Speaker 5: able to trust from from the shelf. You're looking at

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Speaker 5: all the way to where that seed is being planted,

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Speaker 5: that it needs to be trusted.

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Speaker 6: And so if it's not along any.

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Speaker 5: Of that point that chain of command right there, then

725
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Speaker 5: it's a failure.

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Speaker 6: And that we're not.

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Speaker 2: Saying we might have to have a recall. Look at

728
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Speaker 2: the meat that gets recalled as you say, these pesticidies.

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00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: Look at the strawberries or this and that of something,

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00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: if you bought strawberries at the pavilion, but because they

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00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 2: look in track and see who buys what if you

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Speaker 2: went to safe way like you know, mean you hear

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00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,720
Speaker 2: these things and obseas because the way the FDA approves

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00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: everything and watches everything, like you said, it is a

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00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: win for the industry because they should have all this

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00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: better and lockdown way better because it's completely out of line.

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00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 2: And if this is legal and if it's not monitored

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00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: like this, we don't have these problems when its struggle.

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00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: We're consuming the same concepts we're consuming cannabis, we're consuming strawberries,

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00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: we're consuming that for consumer alass that need to be

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00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: checked and regulated for us. It's something that I like

742
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: and I hope it happens more in crackdown because it

743
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: needs to happen universal, right, like should all fifty states,

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00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: It needs to happen worldwide and all these things need

745
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: to crack down even way better because we don't really know, right.

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00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: You have to know it's like what state, what country,

747
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 2: here's the rules, here's the regulations. Is there a last

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Speaker 2: one you wanted to point out?

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Speaker 5: Carter, just that you know the LAB plans on appealing

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Speaker 5: and that you know, I'm sure they're wanting to fight

751
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 5: for their name and see if it was a mistake

752
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 5: or whatever.

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Speaker 6: However hope it was.

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Speaker 4: But if you look at this on the flip side,

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Speaker 4: it opens the door for honest people that we're looking

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Speaker 4: to get into the industry that are currently in the

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00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 4: lab testing. Because I think when we first went legal,

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Speaker 4: there was a lot of pullback because of the stigma.

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Speaker 4: I think now that we've been in it for a

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Speaker 4: few years, there's more research, there's more knowledge out there.

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Speaker 4: I hope it is buyers, those that are currently hesitant

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00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 4: to join the industry. We need more honest people, for

763
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 4: surely do.

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Speaker 6: For sure, I think that's very well put.

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Speaker 2: Joe well, hopefully we'll get him Connor Ruvie. It's a

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