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Speaker 3: happy Honika from all of us at the Clay and

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Speaker 3: Buck Show. Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 3: This is Buck's final show of the year. He's like

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Speaker 3: did a Vanity Fair interview that is just a colossal

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Speaker 3: I think this is Susie Wiles's biggest misstep since she

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Speaker 5: Welcome in everybody to the second hour of the Clay

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Speaker 6: Listen, we made five bus routes free in New York City.

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Speaker 1: Can I take mom donnism to its logical conclusion here?

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Speaker 1: You know where there can be scuffles in drug stores

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Speaker 3: Getting on the bus and paying and having your token

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Speaker 3: or having your bus pass and then having your fare.

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Speaker 2: Is something that makes it way safer.

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Speaker 3: And I just say this is somebody who rode city

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Speaker 3: buses because otherwise vagrants when it's cold, if there is

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Speaker 3: no charge, we'll just get on the bus and they

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Speaker 3: will sit there and they'll never leave. And producer Alley

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Speaker 3: has talked about this. There are people who get on

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Speaker 3: the subway and they stink, and they're homeless, and it's cold,

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Speaker 3: and they just stay on. I don't understand in any way.

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Speaker 3: I bet Buck they did that pilot program. I bet

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Speaker 3: they did it on the nicest routes that you run

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Speaker 3: in the New York City area. I find it impossible

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Speaker 3: to believe that making all buses free is in any

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Speaker 3: way going to make it safer for the people who

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Speaker 3: are riding the buses, or that the environment's going to

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Speaker 3: be better. I just it does not comport with any

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Speaker 3: element of any experience that I've had as a city

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Speaker 3: bus rider. It's been a long time since I did it,

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Speaker 3: but the bus is not that expensive, and I cannot

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Speaker 3: imagine that there are that many people who would otherwise

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Speaker 3: ride that can't for a bus fair in some way.

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Speaker 1: What kind of person do you think is physically assaulting

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Speaker 1: a bus driver. Do you think it's a person who

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Speaker 1: if only they had a free bus fare, they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be laying hands on and becoming violent with a city employee.

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Speaker 2: No, Okay, this.

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Speaker 1: Is a total misunderstanding from Mamdani or a really just

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Speaker 1: I think ignorance of what it's like for people who

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Speaker 1: live in low income, high crime neighborhoods where there are

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Speaker 1: people who are just going to get into trouble, they're

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Speaker 1: going to do things, they're going to break laws, they're

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Speaker 1: going to hurt people. Making the bus free, as I've

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Speaker 1: said all along, will turn them into mobile homeless shelters.

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Speaker 1: That's part one. So no one's now going to feel

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Speaker 1: like they want to be on the bus. And two also,

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Speaker 1: how much more redistribution of wealth and how much bigger

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Speaker 1: a debt does the City of New York want to

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Speaker 1: run up? So now this would be another thing that

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Speaker 1: other people have to pay for in a city that

477
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Speaker 1: already has a huge welfare state in addition to federal

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Speaker 1: benefits that people get. And I just think that it

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Speaker 1: shows that it's totally wrongheaded in its approach. We need

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Speaker 1: a society where people have greater personal accountability. We want

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Speaker 1: to promote a society where people are held responsible for

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Speaker 1: their actions and we are all treated as equals and

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Speaker 1: as adults, but we also have consequences for when we

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Speaker 1: violate that trust. That's the only way to make things better,

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Speaker 1: To placate the people who break the rules, are violent,

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Speaker 1: break the law.

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Speaker 2: It just encourages more of it. Totally.

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Speaker 3: And I again I think your point on hey people,

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Speaker 3: there's not been a mass departure from New York. In general,

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Speaker 3: I think people exaggerate what they are going to do

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Speaker 3: when someone gets elected that they don't like be here

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Speaker 3: all the time. If Trump wins, I'm moving to Canada.

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Speaker 3: And to her credit, Rosie O'Donnell is like the only

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Speaker 3: person that has been famous that has left the country.

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Speaker 2: She went to Ireland.

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Speaker 3: I give her credit because she at least stood behind

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Speaker 3: her comments. She doesn't seem like she's doing very well

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Speaker 3: in Ireland, doesn't seem like the Irish people like her

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Speaker 3: that much, doesn't seem like her family's doing that well.

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Speaker 3: But she followed through on her promise, which most people

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Speaker 3: do not do. What I will say is I do

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Speaker 3: believe that in the spring and summer when school years end,

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Speaker 3: I think there are going to be a ton of

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Speaker 3: people in the New York City era area that will

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Speaker 3: kick the tires on potentially leaving.

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Speaker 2: With that in mind, you.

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Speaker 3: Live through it, Buck, If you were willing to stay

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Speaker 3: in New York City through COVID, I don't know how

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Speaker 3: much worse things would have to get for you to

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Speaker 3: finally say this is my breaking point. For a lot

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Speaker 3: of people, the COVID restrictions was the breaking point. If

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Speaker 3: you're still in New York after five years, six years

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Speaker 3: of COVID going into next year, then I just don't

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Speaker 3: know understand how this is going to finally be the

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Speaker 4: You don't know what's you don't know right, but you

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Speaker 4: diuld On the Sunday had with Playing Buck.

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Speaker 1: Podcast, welcome back in here to Clay and Buck, and

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Speaker 1: we have Senator rand Paul with us.

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Speaker 2: Senator Paul, appreciate you being with us. Let's just jump

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Speaker 2: right into this.

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Speaker 1: So now we have an embargo going or actually a blockade,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, a blockade going on of ships carrying oil

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Speaker 1: from Venezuela. We have a flotilla the likes of which

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Speaker 1: the Caribbean has not seen in quite some time of

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Speaker 1: US naval and other military power. We have a effectively

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Speaker 1: an ultimatum.

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Speaker 2: From a duro. Is this regime change? What's going on?

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Speaker 7: It looks like it's going to be regime change. It's

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Speaker 7: sort of regime change in the process. Personally, I think

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Speaker 7: that war should be a last resort, that we should

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Speaker 7: try to attempt to avoid war, and that we should

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Speaker 7: act in a way that we have to go to

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Speaker 7: war when we have to defend our country. So war

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Speaker 7: should be in self offense. And this, to me is

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Speaker 7: an offensive war. It's a war because we don't like

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Speaker 7: the government of Venezuela. You know, I don't like socialism.

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Speaker 7: I wrote a book called The Case against Socialism. In it,

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Speaker 7: I open in the beginning of the book talking about

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Speaker 7: gangs in Venezuela looking for food because the economy is

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Speaker 7: so desperate under socialism. But at the same time, we

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Speaker 7: could probably list two dozen countries around the world that

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Speaker 7: have either authoritarian rule or authoritarian socialist rule. And I

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Speaker 7: just don't think it's the job of the American soldier to,

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Speaker 7: you know, go around and spread freedom at the point

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Speaker 7: of a bayonet. So now I'm not for this war,

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Speaker 7: and I think it ought to be voted on by Congress.

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Speaker 7: The presidents under the constitution don't have the power to

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Speaker 7: initiate war without approval of Congress.

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Speaker 3: Where We're talking to Senator Ran Paul and there are

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Speaker 3: a ton of things going on out there as we

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Speaker 3: finish year one of Trump two point zero. What would

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Speaker 3: you if you were giving a letter grade, given the

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Speaker 3: fact that exams are going on all over the country

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Speaker 3: right now, what letter grade would you give President Trump

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Speaker 3: and his administration on year one two point zero? And

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Speaker 3: what do you think should be the top priorities when

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Speaker 3: Congress returns to action in January of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 7: Let's say a triple plus on controlling the border. And

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Speaker 7: in fact, they did so well and did it so

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Speaker 7: quickly that they've actually forgotten to tell the American people

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Speaker 7: they did it, so it's become accepted, you know, just

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Speaker 7: everybody expects now the border is controlled. But this was

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Speaker 7: a border that Biden was letting millions of people cross unattended,

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Speaker 7: many of them a danger to our community, and a

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Speaker 7: lawlessness at the border. He came in and within three

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Speaker 7: months controlled that. I think the mistake is that moved

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Speaker 7: on to other things instead of promoting and telling the

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Speaker 7: people about what the good job they did on the border,

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Speaker 7: on maintaining the tax cuts that I supported back in

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Speaker 7: twenty seventeen, A triple plus, great idea to continue those

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Speaker 7: tax cuts. On spending and deficit, you know, about the

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Speaker 7: same grade that all parties get. You know, Republicans and

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Speaker 7: Democrats have historically been terrible with the debt, and I

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Speaker 7: think the debt continues to accumulate at an alarming rate.

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Speaker 7: We now have over a trillion dollars in interest. So

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Speaker 7: I think they can do much better on spending and debt.

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Speaker 7: But on the taxation level, pretty good. And on the

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Speaker 7: border grade.

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Speaker 1: Now, you have been very vocal Senator Paul about these

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Speaker 1: strikes on suspected or alleged narco boats and mostly the Caribbean,

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Speaker 1: also some in the Eastern Pacific off the coast of Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Are there other senate colleagues on the Republican side who

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Speaker 1: share your concerns?

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Speaker 2: And what would you like to see?

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Speaker 1: What would the administration have to do, this White House

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Speaker 1: have to do for your concerns to be allayed regarding

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Speaker 1: these strikes.

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Speaker 7: You know, one of the questions I've been putting forward

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Speaker 7: is are they armed? I mean, we have a long

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Speaker 7: standing tradition, not just here but around the world among

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Speaker 7: civilized people that we don't shoot unarmed people. So you know,

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Speaker 7: some questions came out, did we shoot shipwrecked people when

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Speaker 7: people are clinging the wreckage, and it's actually part of

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Speaker 7: our military law that we don't. We also usually don't

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Speaker 7: shoot unarmed people. So these boats that are alleged to

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Speaker 7: curing drugs, probably a lot of them do have drugs.

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Speaker 7: I'm not disputing that most of these boats don't have

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Speaker 7: the capability to even get to the United States. They

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Speaker 7: can go about one hundred miles and after be fuel.

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Speaker 7: So a lot of these drugs, if they are drugs,

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Speaker 7: are being distributed by unarmed people into some of the

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Speaker 7: Lower Caribbean islands. What we've done historically for crimes is

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Speaker 7: we capture you and prosecute you. It's difficult work, it's

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Speaker 7: not easy, but that's what we have always expected. Coast

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Speaker 7: Guard interdicts these boats routinely, still does, and the ratio

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Speaker 7: of boats that have drugs to those who don't is

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Speaker 7: about one in four of every boat that's boarded doesn't

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Speaker 7: have drugs. So that's a pretty high airr rate. To

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Speaker 7: expect that we're going to kill unarmed people based on

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Speaker 7: an air rate of about one and four being picking

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Speaker 7: up the wrong people. So I'm absolutely opposed to this.

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Speaker 7: I think that you know, there are some on the

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Speaker 7: Republican side who uneasy, but most voices have been somewhat

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Speaker 7: tamped down on the Republican side on any policy they

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Speaker 7: disagree with the president. But I think that makes us

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Speaker 7: weaker as a country. I think we all need to

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Speaker 7: be big enough to be able to have criticism even

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Speaker 7: within the party.

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Speaker 3: What should happen on healthcare? I know you and the

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Speaker 3: President have been going back and forth on some disagreements

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Speaker 3: and issues, but there's talk that maybe the government's going

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Speaker 3: to shut down again. In January, I saw where Chuck

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Speaker 3: Schumer refused to say that he would not shut down.

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Speaker 2: The government again.

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Speaker 3: Tell me if you think I'm wrong, Senator, but it

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Speaker 3: feels like to me that a big part of the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six Democrat plan as they get ready to

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Speaker 3: run in the midterms, is going to be shutting down

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Speaker 3: the governm meant arguing that Republicans all want to take

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Speaker 3: away everybody's health care and they want everybody to die.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we all know how this is going to

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Speaker 3: play out. It seems kind of clear to me. What

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Speaker 3: should happen, What will happen in the world of healthcare.

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Speaker 7: Beyond healthcare, President Trump and I have a great deal

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Speaker 7: of agreement. We work together in the first administration to

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Speaker 7: craft an executive order that the intention was to allow

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Speaker 7: people to buy insurance across state lines, and insurance as

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Speaker 7: part of a co op or a collective like Sam's

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Speaker 7: Club or costc. The problem with the executive order is

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Speaker 7: the problem we all often have with executive orders is

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Speaker 7: the law's not changed. We try to bend the law

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Speaker 7: through an executive order, people sue in court. So all

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Speaker 7: the Democrat ag sued. They tied it up in court

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Speaker 7: and never really got to have its full effect. But

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Speaker 7: I've communicating with the President in the last couple of

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Speaker 7: weeks and he says he still favors this policy that

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Speaker 7: I've been pushing, and mine would basically cost nothing, didn't

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Speaker 7: cost the tax pay or anything. Just makes it legal

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Speaker 7: to buy a cross state lines and makes it legal

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Speaker 7: for anybody that wants to collect people together, particularly groups

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Speaker 7: that already exist like Amazon, Costcover, Sam's Club, to buy

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Speaker 7: insurance as a group. What would happen is you'd really

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Speaker 7: have no more individual market. So if you're an accountant

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Speaker 7: and you have three employees, you buy insurance for or

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Speaker 7: maybe you're a construction guid and you've got one hundred employees.

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Speaker 7: Why would you want to buy insurance on your own.

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Speaker 7: Why not join a private collective that negotiates better prices.

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Speaker 7: And I think we could really drive prices down if

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Speaker 7: you just take the subsidies that we're currently giving to

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Speaker 7: insurance companies and you give those subsidies to people's health

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Speaker 7: savings accounts. I think that's just a distinction without a difference.

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Speaker 7: You're still giving away money we don't have, and it's

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Speaker 7: still going to all wound up in an insurance company's pocket.

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Speaker 7: So my association health plans would bring prices down. The

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Speaker 7: other thing I would do is I wouldn't give taxpayer

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Speaker 7: money to health savings accounts, but I would let everyone

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Speaker 7: have a health savings account. Right now, only ten ten

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Speaker 7: percent of insurance plans sold. Is it legal to have

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Speaker 7: health savings account? People on Medicare cannot have health savings accounts.

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Speaker 7: I would let everybody in America have health savings account.

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Speaker 7: I get to think thing all going to do to

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Speaker 7: think about this is think about how many kids have braces.

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Speaker 7: I had three kids that all had braces, but I

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Speaker 7: did it with pre tax money through my health savings account.

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Speaker 7: It's not fair that only ten percent of the public

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Speaker 7: gets that we should let that great benefit accrue to everyone.

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Speaker 1: It's being the Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky and Senator

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Speaker 1: Affordability is the big catchword for what is a focus

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six policy and politics. People are already

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Speaker 1: projecting that the mid terms will take affordability in account

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Speaker 1: in a major way. And affordability is really just kitchen

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Speaker 1: table economics, right. This is a concept that we've been

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Speaker 1: dealing with for as long as American political parties have

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Speaker 1: been vying for attention and power. But what do you

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Speaker 1: see as the ways that the administration and to the

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Speaker 1: degree Congress, well, I'm not sure Congress is going to

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Speaker 1: be able to do much on this, But what do

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Speaker 1: you see as the best way forward, especially on the

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Speaker 1: housing issue, because it's so complicated, so important, and it

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Speaker 1: has gotten too expensive for the average American family to

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Speaker 1: be able to afford the median home in this country.

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Speaker 2: What can be done? What should be done?

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Speaker 7: Well, pip have have to realize the price of things

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Speaker 7: goes up because of the value of your dollar shrinks.

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Speaker 7: So part of the reason that President Trump won this

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Speaker 7: last time around was because it was becoming unaffordable to

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Speaker 7: live under Biden. Biden had about twenty percent inflation in

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Speaker 7: four years, and wages rose less less rapidly. So if

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Speaker 7: you add in a little bit of inflation under Trump

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Speaker 7: plus the twenty percent under Biden, it's about twenty five

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Speaker 7: percent inflation over the last five years. That twenty five percent.

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Speaker 7: Unless your wages went up twenty five percent, you've all

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Speaker 7: gotten four. So people are being squeezed it. Things are

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Speaker 7: less affordable because of the value of the dollar. Why

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Speaker 7: the dollar lose its value because of the debt. The

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Speaker 7: debt is bought by the Federal Reserve. They buy it

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Speaker 7: by introducing new dollars into circulation and devalues the dollars

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Speaker 7: we have. That's what price inflation is. It's not a mystery.

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Speaker 7: It comes from debt and then the printing of money

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Speaker 7: to pay for the debt. So I think they need

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Speaker 7: to explain it better and explain where inflation comes from,

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Speaker 7: and then you combat it basically by introducing balanced budgets

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Speaker 7: and less debt. Now, the problem is both parties are

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Speaker 7: terrible with debt. You know, Biden was terrible with it,

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Speaker 7: but really the previous Trump administration added eight trillion, then

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Speaker 7: Biden added eight trillion. We're on target to add another

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Speaker 7: eight or nine trillion under this administration. So we have

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Speaker 7: to do a better job at controlling debt and affordability

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Speaker 7: with housing. Part of it's the loss of the value

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Speaker 7: of the dollar, but part of it also is controls

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Speaker 7: that forbids you from you know, raising or improving the

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Speaker 7: value of things like rent control in New York is

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Speaker 7: a disaster. It's why you have no apartments and none

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Speaker 7: of them get fixed up because if you can only

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Speaker 7: charge four hundred dollars to live in Manhattan, guess what,

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Speaker 7: there's no money left over to do any of the repairs,

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Speaker 7: and so these apartments are just decaying in New York.

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Speaker 7: But people need to realize that rent control in New

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Speaker 7: York is the same thing they have in Venezuela. That's

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Speaker 7: why they have no food. So when you have price controls,

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Speaker 7: it's a variation of socialism. And they've just elected a

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Speaker 7: socialist mayor in New York. So I think they're going

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Speaker 7: to have to get a lot worse before it gets better,

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Speaker 7: until hopefully the young people of America will see socialism

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Speaker 7: for the disaster that it is.

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Speaker 2: What is the one start? Yeah, no, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, what is the one thing

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Speaker 1: Senator Paul that if you could get President Trump to

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Speaker 1: really dial in and focus on, for him to spearhead

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Speaker 1: and try to accomplish next year in advance in the midterms,

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Speaker 1: what would it.

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Speaker 7: Be proposing a budget that balances, proposing to spend less money.

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Speaker 7: The hard and difficult part of that equation, though, is

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Speaker 7: that most of the money are entitlements. Two thirds of

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Speaker 7: the spending of governments entitlements. One third is military and

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Speaker 7: non military discretionary. That's what we vote on. So the

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Speaker 7: hard part about the deficit is the deficits about two trillion,

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Speaker 7: and the budget that Congress votes on is about two trillion,

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Speaker 7: so you get actually zero out. And I'm not proposing this,

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Speaker 7: but if you had zero military spending and zero discretionary

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Speaker 7: welfare spending, you'd balance your budget, which means basically the

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Speaker 7: taxes that come in are equivalent to all the mandatory

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Speaker 7: programs without the discretionary programs. So we are really behind

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Speaker 7: the eight ball. And this gets worse over time. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's going to become an escalating problem that will at

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Speaker 7: some point spiral out of control, and it's fixable now

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Speaker 7: if you do something, if we gradually start fixing the entitlements.

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Speaker 7: But the President, as many of his predecessors have said, oh,

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Speaker 7: I'm not going to touch entitlements. It's the third rail.

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Speaker 7: So we're going to stay away from that. And then

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Speaker 7: when we have the discussion over the big beautiful bill,

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Speaker 7: some of us tried to fix medicaid in that bill

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Speaker 7: and say, look, they got to at least have the

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Speaker 7: same formula for the states that we once had, whether

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Speaker 7: the states pay part, federal government pays part. Instead, Obama

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Speaker 7: gear added all these fuel to medicaid and said, oh,

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Speaker 7: the federal government will pay the whole thing. And those

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Speaker 7: people are still on. And because it was free or

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Speaker 7: virtually free to the states, the states said, sure, we'll

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Speaker 7: welcome more people in medicaid, and more people join medicaid.

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Speaker 7: Everybody's gotten on food stamps, we serve Coca cola. The

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Speaker 7: people on food stamps we serve ding dogs, Twinkies, donuts.

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's just candy. You can buy candy on

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Speaker 7: food stamps. So we've got to do more on having

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Speaker 7: government live within its means.

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Speaker 2: Senator Ran Paul appreciate you, sir. Merry Christmas and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you in the new year.

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Speaker 4: Ws and politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Play Travis buck Sexton Show. We're going

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Speaker 3: to be joined by Senator Ran Paul at the bottom

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Speaker 3: of the hour. I was out yesterday. I wanted to

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Speaker 3: mention this. So many of you said nice things, and

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. My uncle Kenneth died at the age

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Speaker 3: of eighty four, and I was at his funeral in

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Speaker 3: East Tennessee. And he was a Vietnam Vet and worked

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Speaker 3: for Buck thirty years for South Central Bell, going around

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Speaker 3: working on phone lines all over the Chattanooga, Tennessee area.

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Speaker 3: And he was just such an amazing guy. And I

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Speaker 3: know there are many also Vietnam or veterans out there

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Speaker 3: that are listening to us right now. And I know

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Speaker 3: somewhat that has changed in the past couple of decades

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Speaker 3: about how we've responded to the people who fought in

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Speaker 3: that war. But I actually think we should be doing

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Speaker 3: a better job of saying thank you to everyone who

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Speaker 3: fought in that war. Certainly when they came back, they

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Speaker 3: were not embraced. It wasn't their choice to go to

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Speaker 3: that war. It wasn't their choice to be putting their

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Speaker 3: lives on the line, but they were willing to answer

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Speaker 3: when the country called. And my uncle is representative of

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Speaker 3: that generation. You know, he worked on helicopters, served in

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Speaker 3: in Vietnam, and as I was at his funeral yesterday,

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Speaker 3: he was supremely healthy for eighty three and a half years,

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Speaker 3: just got very sick in the last six months with cancer.

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Speaker 3: But I wanted as they had the flag at his casket,

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Speaker 3: as they were talking about his service there at the funeral,

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Speaker 3: I wanted to just think about that, say thank you

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Speaker 3: for the responses that people have shared out there in

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Speaker 3: the audience, but bigger than that, say thank you to

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Speaker 3: everyone out there listening to us right now that is

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Speaker 3: a Vietnam War vet. Because I think in many ways

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Speaker 3: we have largely neglected saying thank you for everybody out

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Speaker 3: there who put their lives on the line in that war.

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Speaker 3: So thank you for everybody. He had an amazing life,

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Speaker 3: phenomenal guy. I feel honored that I had the forty

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Speaker 3: six years of my life to be able to experience

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Speaker 3: with him. He was as good of an uncle as

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Speaker 3: anybody could be. And it's a holiday season comes up,

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Speaker 3: I would just encourage all of you, you know, hug

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Speaker 3: and kiss as many friends and family members as you can,

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Speaker 3: because we don't know when the holiday is going to

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Speaker 3: be the last one that we get to spend together.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully we all have a lot more, but last Christmas

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Speaker 3: was our last Christmas with him. Didn't know it, And

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Speaker 3: just would encourage everybody out there to say thank you

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Speaker 3: to the Vietnam Vets in your life, and also to

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Speaker 3: make sure that you don't neglect saying thank you to

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Speaker 3: anybody out there that is a member of your family

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Speaker 3: that you may not get to spend another Christmas with.

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