WEBVTT - LISTEN | The New YorkHER Podcast: Ep. 2 with Amy Trask

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, all sports fans, jets fans, anybody who's just tuning

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<v Speaker 1>into the second episode of the New Yorker podcast. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>your host, Olivia Land. Cannot tell you, guys, how absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>honored I am to have today's guest, who is CBS

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<v Speaker 1>analysts and panelist Amy Trask. Amy, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for joining me today. I can't even begin to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you how excited I am to have you on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a privilege and a pleasure to join you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thrilled to have this opportunity. Thanks for having me

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<v Speaker 1>on this past couple of days. When we decided that

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to come onto the podcast, I started

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<v Speaker 1>reading a lot of articles. That turns out there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of articles on you, Amy Trask. Not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if you were aware, but a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 1>written some pretty amazing things about you out there. I

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<v Speaker 1>I my My immediate reaction is, oh, a little worried

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<v Speaker 1>what they might say, Uh, but no, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in my career, um when or I shouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>early in my career, but early um, in the moment

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<v Speaker 1>of time, if you will. That I started getting a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more attention. My husband looked at me and

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<v Speaker 1>very wisely said, never read the comments. And I followed

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<v Speaker 1>that advice to this day. Just don't read the comments.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true, It really is true, especially me thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>the position I'm in being the team reporter for the

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<v Speaker 1>New York Jets. You know a lot of times fan

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<v Speaker 1>bases can be rough, just or people in general, especially

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter social media. So I think that's that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>wise advice from your husband. But what I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>jump into with you, Amy, is there was something that

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<v Speaker 1>caught my eye on a certain article where you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about being a woman in the football industry. And

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<v Speaker 1>for those of you who are listening that do not know,

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<v Speaker 1>Amy was the first female CEO in the entire National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League. She became the CEO of the then l

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<v Speaker 1>A slash Oakland Raiders in n held that position for

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen years. But something that was interesting. You were asked

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<v Speaker 1>by the individual who wrote the article how you viewed

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<v Speaker 1>yourself as a woman in a male dominated workplace, and

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<v Speaker 1>you talked about how you never saw your gender in

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<v Speaker 1>any room you walked into, any situation you did, or

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<v Speaker 1>any time during your position. How did you establish that mindset?

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's something that is so interesting to me because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a very different and satisfying approach. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>two points. The first is, I started my career in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League in the mid eighties, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am quite confident that many of your followers, and it

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<v Speaker 1>pains me to say this, but the truth is they

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<v Speaker 1>may not have even been alive then. So UM, when

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned that I was the only woman in the room,

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<v Speaker 1>the only woman, UM in a position such as that

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<v Speaker 1>within the National Football League. That was a long long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago, and there are certainly more worthy women involved now.

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<v Speaker 1>The other point I'll make is this, what I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>to share with you is the way I conducted myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is what worked for me. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean to suggest. I'm not suggesting. It's not my intent,

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<v Speaker 1>my desire, or my wish to suggest that this is

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily what will work for anyone else. What worked for

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<v Speaker 1>me is paying absolutely no attention to my gender. It

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<v Speaker 1>never made sense to me, and it still doesn't. That

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<v Speaker 1>I would want to walk into a room with the

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<v Speaker 1>expectation and the hope that no one in that room

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<v Speaker 1>would be thinking about my gender. If I was thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about my gender. In other words, if I walked into

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting of NFL team owners or the the various

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<v Speaker 1>owner of the Los Angeles and then Oakland Raiders of

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<v Speaker 1>football meeting, a coaching meeting, a meeting with bankers or

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<v Speaker 1>municipal leaders, or any meeting whatsoever, and I expected and

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<v Speaker 1>hoped that no one in there would be interested or

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<v Speaker 1>concerned or focused on my gender. It made no sense

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<v Speaker 1>to me that I should be thinking about my gender,

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<v Speaker 1>So I did proceed without regard to gender. And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, if other people wanted to waste their time

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about my gender, will go ahead waste your time,

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<v Speaker 1>because I wasn't going to waste my time thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's such an incredible mindset. And actually, when I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading some of these articles, it's funny because you you

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<v Speaker 1>really re quoted some of the things that you had

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<v Speaker 1>already mentioned. But what I really loved was the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that you kind of told yourself, if this is how

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be treated or how I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be viewed, I'm going to do the same with myself,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not look at my gender. How did you

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<v Speaker 1>see that play out throughout your career in a male

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<v Speaker 1>dominated industry, Boy, that's an interesting question, and one that

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<v Speaker 1>is somewhat hard to answer because I can't control for

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<v Speaker 1>the variable of what if I had comported myself in

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<v Speaker 1>a different manner. And look, I'm going to be quick

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<v Speaker 1>to note or state the obvious, really, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure everyone understands I'm well aware of this.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the tremendous fortune of working for a business

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<v Speaker 1>owner who wasn't remotely concerned with my gender. He hired

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<v Speaker 1>me without regard to gender. He advanced me without regard

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<v Speaker 1>to gender. He customed me without regard to gender. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't care about my gender. And that sent a powerful

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<v Speaker 1>message to many others. Not to everyone, but to many others.

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<v Speaker 1>And I recognize that there are many women who don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that good fortune. So I do understand that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm I'm asked quite often was I tested

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<v Speaker 1>because I was a woman? And you know, my initial

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<v Speaker 1>reaction was, I don't know, maybe I was, But you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, let's assume I was tested because of my gender.

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<v Speaker 1>We know what people are tested all the time. They're

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<v Speaker 1>tested because of their race, their ethnicity, their religion, their gender,

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<v Speaker 1>their educational background, their seniority, their age. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>know is this the best thing to do when you're

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<v Speaker 1>tested past the damn test, pass the damn test. What

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<v Speaker 1>a What an incredible piece of advice. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go out on allege and say that you passed all

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<v Speaker 1>of the damn tests that were handed your way because

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<v Speaker 1>of how much success that you saw. Is that fair

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<v Speaker 1>to say? I don't want to put words in your mouth,

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<v Speaker 1>but is that fair to say? Well, I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that you're not putting words in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate what you said. Um look, I made a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of mistakes. I made my share of mistakes. Did

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<v Speaker 1>I ultimately pass the tests? Yes, I did, but not

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<v Speaker 1>without stumbles and bumbles and fumbles on the way. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, that's okay. You know I told people

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. I still tell people all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>In business, it's okay to make a mistake. Um look,

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain industries, certain professions where you can't make

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<v Speaker 1>a mistake. I had the privilege, and that just pleasure

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<v Speaker 1>of flying with the Air Force in an F sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and when that pilot was upside down, we were flying

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<v Speaker 1>upside down, he had the plane upside down. He was

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<v Speaker 1>going almost five miles an hour. That would be a

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<v Speaker 1>really bad time to make a mistake. Yes, but in business,

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<v Speaker 1>in business in general, it's okay to make a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>And I told staff that all the time, and I

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<v Speaker 1>told them I would make mistakes, and I told them,

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<v Speaker 1>when I make mistakes, I'm gonna account on you to

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<v Speaker 1>help me fix them. And guess what, when you make mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to help you fix yours. So yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe I ultimately passed the test. But to suggest,

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<v Speaker 1>or to to hint or to intimate that I did

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<v Speaker 1>so without mistakes would be silly. I made a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of mistakes, and mistakes are a good thing to have

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<v Speaker 1>because we're all human and in order to get where

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<v Speaker 1>we need to go, everybody's going to make mistakes, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the sports industry, and oftentimes I can't speak

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<v Speaker 1>for all women, but oftentimes a lot of women feel

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<v Speaker 1>like they can't make mistakes at all. They feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I have to make half the amount of mistakes, no,

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<v Speaker 1>twice as much, which I think sometimes is a pressure

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<v Speaker 1>we often put on ourselves. But also again you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just just the industry at times being male dominated. But

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, making mistakes is part of the game plan.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't make mistakes, how are you going to learn? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly right. And again it's industry specific. My brother

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife, my sister in law are doctors, and

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<v Speaker 1>if one of them screams oh no in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of a procedure on a humans body, well that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But most mistakes in business can be corrected. And they

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<v Speaker 1>may cost money, and they may cost time and effort

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<v Speaker 1>and energy, but most of them can be corrected. And

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<v Speaker 1>I would say one of the things that worked very

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<v Speaker 1>very well from me, again noting that we're each different,

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<v Speaker 1>is saying to staff, I'm gonna make mistakes and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna help I'm going to count on you to help

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<v Speaker 1>me fix them. And you're gonna make mistakes and that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to help you fix them. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>teen times I would gather staff together and I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, I made a mistake. I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>help me fix it. And not only did they rally

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<v Speaker 1>to do so, it made everybody feel more comfortable sharing

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<v Speaker 1>when they had made a mistake. And the worst thing

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<v Speaker 1>you can do when you make a mistake is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to bury it or hide it and not address it

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<v Speaker 1>head on. But I will also note that when I

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<v Speaker 1>gathered everyone together to say I made a mistake, will

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<v Speaker 1>you help me fix it? I always had an ice

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<v Speaker 1>cream Sunday bar set up. I love that it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that something you you wanted to implement? Was it new?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's that doing? First of all, everything is better with

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream. Agree, If you're going to be creative, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna problem solve, if you're going to fix a mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you're gonna do, it's going to go better with

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<v Speaker 1>ice cream. That's very true. I might have to I

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<v Speaker 1>actually might have to patch that idea to my boss.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't mind some world wid you listen, Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to focus on just one aspect of

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<v Speaker 1>your career because you have so many accomplishments that we

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<v Speaker 1>can talk about. We could talk about you overcoming your

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<v Speaker 1>fear of television and being on CBS as an analyst.

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<v Speaker 1>We could talk about your time at the Oakland Raiders.

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<v Speaker 1>We can talk about you publishing a book. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>many things that we can talk about. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>really want to dive into is how you got to

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<v Speaker 1>where you're at today. What type of we already talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the mindset you had on gender. But what type

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<v Speaker 1>of mindset led you to the success that you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>with both The Raiders and now on television. What was it,

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<v Speaker 1>what ignited a passion inside of you? I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I can attribute it to a mind set in particular.

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<v Speaker 1>I will note that one of the things that I

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<v Speaker 1>believe helped me was something my parents instilled in me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe this just passionately to this day. Hard

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<v Speaker 1>work matters. Hard work really, really really matters. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>tell people all the time, work as hard as you can,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you think can't think, if you think you

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<v Speaker 1>can't work any harder, find a way to work harder.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how many times, because I lost

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<v Speaker 1>count of the number that people would walk into my office,

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<v Speaker 1>either at the Raiders or they approach me now or

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<v Speaker 1>in my role with the Big Three, or any number

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<v Speaker 1>of contexts, and they'll say, how do we accomplish what

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<v Speaker 1>you've accomplished? How do we put ourselves on a trajectory

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<v Speaker 1>to do what you've done? And I look at them

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<v Speaker 1>and I say, do you notice that when you get

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<v Speaker 1>here in the morning, my car is already here. I

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of met with a stare, and I'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>and do you notice that when you go home at night,

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<v Speaker 1>my car is still here? And look, that's not my

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<v Speaker 1>way of looking for love. For working long hours, that's

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<v Speaker 1>my way of explaining hard work is very, very, very important.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's something my parents instilled in me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>cherish that to this day and I share with people

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<v Speaker 1>to this day. Whatever your passion is, whatever you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you're passionate about it or not, if you wish

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<v Speaker 1>to succeed, if you wish to advance, work as hard

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<v Speaker 1>as you can. And if you think you can't work

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<v Speaker 1>any harder, work harder. The other piece of advice that

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<v Speaker 1>I received, and this was from my mom, not from

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<v Speaker 1>both of my parents, was to thine own self be true.

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<v Speaker 1>And my mom told me that from the time I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little, little little girl, and like moms can do,

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<v Speaker 1>she told that to me over and over and over again,

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<v Speaker 1>and like kids can do, I rolled my eyes when

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<v Speaker 1>she did. But it's the best advice I've ever received.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason I share that now with you for

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<v Speaker 1>purposes of this podcast is to underscore the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sharing what worked for me, but just because it

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<v Speaker 1>worked for me, to ignore my gender. Just because it

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<v Speaker 1>worked for me to work like a little crazy person

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that's the right answer for everyone. To thine

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<v Speaker 1>own self be true. And by the way, as a footnote,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until I was well into my studies at

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<v Speaker 1>cal Berkeley, maybe even close to graduation, that I learned

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<v Speaker 1>my mom didn't invent that. That was Shakespeare. Well, it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we can still look at our mother's as I'm superheroes,

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<v Speaker 1>right there you go, I'm giving the credit to my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay. Well, well we'll put it as as your mother.

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<v Speaker 1>That's who we will credit too in the history books.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, okay, thank you of course. So between all

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<v Speaker 1>of the different accomplishments that you've had so far in

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<v Speaker 1>your life, what would you say was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most challenging parts to balancing all of the different hills

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<v Speaker 1>you climbed, Because, like, like I already mentioned, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the articles I read, you talked about overcoming your fear

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<v Speaker 1>of being on television and being on camera, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned it, you know, being chairman of the board

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<v Speaker 1>of the Big Three, and then you were CEO for

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<v Speaker 1>a professional football team. What was one of the biggest challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it all excited about your question. I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you're excited. I'm going to address the challenge you reference

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<v Speaker 1>because if it helps someone else overcome or stare down

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<v Speaker 1>and fight their insecurity, well that would be really need O.

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<v Speaker 1>My biggest insecurity my whole life, dating back to when

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little kid, has been my physical appearance.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've just always always always been very insecure about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right or wrong, smarter, dumb, it doesn't matter when we

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<v Speaker 1>have an insecurity. We have an insecurity, and that was mine.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, even if you look back at my

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<v Speaker 1>family's old home movies, UM, I'm not in them because

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<v Speaker 1>someone would turn on a camera and I would run

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<v Speaker 1>so fast in the other direction. Al would assign me

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<v Speaker 1>to play corner or receiver. Uh. So, after I left

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders, I um was contacted by CBS Sports, and

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<v Speaker 1>my immediate reaction was no, no, no, no no no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing that. No no, no, no, no no. And

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<v Speaker 1>I won't belabor the story. But it went on and

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<v Speaker 1>on and and my reaction was very very strong, and

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<v Speaker 1>one evening I was sharing that reaction and and and

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity and my response to it and my thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>about it with a group of people, some of whom

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<v Speaker 1>were closer friends, some of whom were friends, but not

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<v Speaker 1>the closest friends I have. And one of the women

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<v Speaker 1>there looked at me after I went on and on

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<v Speaker 1>about why I wasn't going to do it and what

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<v Speaker 1>my insecurities were, and how being on camera has always

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<v Speaker 1>been my greatest fear, being on live camera. That is,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's a video or television. Look, there's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not on video with you right now, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just doing this by audio. Being on camera has always

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<v Speaker 1>been my biggest fear. And she looked to me and

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<v Speaker 1>in a very quiet voice, she said, let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>And that resonated with me. It really did. Those three

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<v Speaker 1>words were so powerful that they changed the trajectory and

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<v Speaker 1>direction of my life. Because with that advice, which I

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, it resonated. I said, what the heck?

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<v Speaker 1>And I said yes to CBS Sports CBS Sports Network,

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<v Speaker 1>and I jumped in and I could not be happier

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<v Speaker 1>than I did. So if anyone listening to this um

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<v Speaker 1>has an opportunity to do something which scares them, my

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<v Speaker 1>suggestion is you might want to think about that, because

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes doing something very scary can work out very well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is a perfect note to end our

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<v Speaker 1>very serious discussion on all things you've accomplished throughout your life. Amy,

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<v Speaker 1>Before I let you go, we only have about a

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<v Speaker 1>minute now. I want to do something fun with the

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<v Speaker 1>remainder of your time. I want to do a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of rapid fire. Are you comfortable with that? I

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<v Speaker 1>love rapid fire, Thank goodness, Finally somebody who enjoys rapid

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<v Speaker 1>fire as much as I do. Every time I say that,

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<v Speaker 1>people are like, all right, okay, you and I may

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we may have a real relationship going here,

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<v Speaker 1>because I absolutely love rapid fire. I mean I just

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<v Speaker 1>got so excited I screamed in your ear. Let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, that's perfectly okay. That we got the rapid

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<v Speaker 1>fire going, We've got the ice cream. I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>off to a good start, agreed, all right, you ready?

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<v Speaker 1>I am. These are gonna be all over the place

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But and you're just gonna you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say something and you want my rapid fire response. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing that comes to mind. Even if after

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<v Speaker 1>we listen back to this and you're like, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>actually how I feel. It doesn't matter, rapid fire, got it? Okay, okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>go to midnight snack, ain't me? Ice cream? Favorite and

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<v Speaker 1>and being more and being more direct, usually an ice

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<v Speaker 1>cream Sunday, but at a minimum ice cream. And if

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<v Speaker 1>it's very late at night, it's going to be ice cream,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, straight from the tub with a spoon, but

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<v Speaker 1>with sprinkles and whip cream dumped on top of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it? What flavor of ice cream? Now I have

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<v Speaker 1>to ask, honest to gosh, no favorite flavor. I I

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<v Speaker 1>just can't pick. I like you. I love that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a great answer, all right. Number two favorite raider of

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<v Speaker 1>all time? Well, I won't name him. I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a favorite raider. I've never ever ever named him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I won't name him. Early, early, early in my career.

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<v Speaker 1>Long story, but I messed up a contract. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the first contract I worked on. I got a phone

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<v Speaker 1>call at home at the middle of the night from

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<v Speaker 1>Al Again. I want to give it to you rapidly,

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<v Speaker 1>so I won't give you the whole story, but I

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<v Speaker 1>will say that this player, who was the last man

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<v Speaker 1>on the roster, redid tore up his contract, redid it

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<v Speaker 1>and save my job, but I'll never name him. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, as long as he knows he did

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<v Speaker 1>you a solid I think that's all that matters. He

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<v Speaker 1>did me a solid. Favorite movie genre oh um, I

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<v Speaker 1>could do favorite movie easily. Favorite movie genre, m hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>happy movies. I like feel good movies, me too. Last

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<v Speaker 1>movie that made you cry? This one's tough because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even name this one. Oh, I'm not sure movies

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<v Speaker 1>make me cry? Are we allowed to get one that

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<v Speaker 1>we pass on because we just didn't know the answer? Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my past question because I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>cry it. I cry it almost every movie. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no shame in that. Don't have any shame in

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<v Speaker 1>your game and just own up to that. I thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Off the activity something involving the beach, whether it's a

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<v Speaker 1>walk on the beach, a swim at the beach, beach,

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<v Speaker 1>oriented love, that celebrity crush. Oh oh, let me think

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<v Speaker 1>I can honest, honest, honest answer. Honest, honest, honest answer

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<v Speaker 1>is my husband. I only crushes my husband. That's sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna melt my heart. You didn't. It's not technically

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<v Speaker 1>the right answer, but it's okay, because rapid fire and

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<v Speaker 1>it's really sweet and it's and it's an honest answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes all I can ask for. Okay, just two more

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<v Speaker 1>most embarrassing moment while working for the Raiders, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will give you one. But so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I could give you a list of embarrassing moments. I

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed myself so often it's hard to think of my

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<v Speaker 1>most embarrassing one. Let me think of an embarrassing one. God,

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<v Speaker 1>so many. Let me think I'm the same. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're like me, but I'm clumsy,

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<v Speaker 1>so I trip a lot. Well, okay, here you go.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not my most embarrassing one. But since you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned clumsy. First week or so in the Raiders, having

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<v Speaker 1>a discussion with Al, I have a latte on my desk.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking. I talked with my hands. I whacked the

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<v Speaker 1>latte all over the room, all over everywhere. He stares

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<v Speaker 1>at me, and I would say, I'm kind of proud

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't miss a beat. I just kept talking.

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<v Speaker 1>You just kept talking, pretended like it didn't even happen. Exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I aspire to be like that. Okay, one last one

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<v Speaker 1>for you, Amy, and then I'm gonna let you go

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<v Speaker 1>your jack of all trades. You've done so many different

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<v Speaker 1>things so far in your lifetime. But if there is

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<v Speaker 1>one other job in the world where you could retire on,

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<v Speaker 1>which would it be? You know, I've been thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot lately. There is no particular job, but

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to do something UM helpful in the

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<v Speaker 1>education area and working to provide opportunities to kids that

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the same resources as many kids. UM. I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked to a couple of my girlfriends about maybe just

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<v Speaker 1>taking a building somewhere in an area where there's not

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<v Speaker 1>as much painting it bright yellow, bright orange, and writing

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<v Speaker 1>hope on the front and welcoming kids in and doing

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<v Speaker 1>all we can to help them. What an incredible What

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible aspiration. I hope. I hope to see that

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<v Speaker 1>played out someday. I really do. Well. If it happens,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll invite you. Yes. Thank you so much, Amy Trask

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<v Speaker 1>for joining me on an episode two of the New

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<v Speaker 1>York per podcast. It was an absolute honor. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. It was absolutely positively my pleasure. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for inviting me. I am honored to join us. M