1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,159 Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: This week, I have a very exciting guest, Kit Keaton. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Casual Chaos. 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Hi, thank you for having me. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm so excited that you're here. You're actually one of 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: my first influencer guests. 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: Really, Oh my gosh, fun. I'm honored. 8 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I've been wanting to have one of my 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: influencer friends on for so long and honestly, just talk 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: about our life and what we do and how we 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: make our own money and what we do for work, 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: because I feel like there's a lot of talk about it. 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and also I feel like there's a lot of 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: misunderstanding around it. 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: I agree, I totally agree. So you are definitely a 16 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: part of the New York influencing group and you guys 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: received a lot of backlash this year. How did you 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: handle all of that? 19 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: I feel like there was a lot of discourse this 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: year around like the New City influencer scene. But from 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: my perspective, like I have grown up in this world, 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: and when I was in high school, the New York 23 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: City influencer scene was so different because it was like 24 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 3: the blogger era, So it was something navy and we 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: wore what and like those girls that started the fashion blogs, 26 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: and that was what being an influencer was. 27 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: It was being a blogger. And over time. 28 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: That has developed, and like when I moved back, I 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 3: went to college in LA, and when I moved back 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: to New York, there was this whole explosion of like 31 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: the TikTok world and that created kind of the next 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 3: generation of New. 33 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 2: York City influencers. 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: And from my experience, like I have just met the 35 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: most supportive and Greek girls and I feel so lucky 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: because when I was living in LA was not like that. 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: Like the influencer scene in LA was definitely not as 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 3: like supportive and community based as it is in New York. 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel. 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: Like there's been there's always people like trying to stir 41 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: the pot and create tea and all of that. But like, 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: from my personal experience, I have so many close friends 43 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: in the space, and I feel so lucky that it's 44 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: not like a dog eat dog world and that it 45 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: is very supportive. So that's been my experience and I 46 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: can like only really speak on that. Yeah. 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: No, And even when all of that was going around, 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there like well, I also do this content, 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: and it's just like kind of what we're all focused 50 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: on in our daily life. We are showing everyone what 51 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: we do on a day to day basis, how we 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: go about our mornings, or how spend a day in 53 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: my life. And that's genuinely the content that I enjoy watching, 54 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: not even if it's just my content, but even if 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm watching your cooking videos or if I'm watching acquired 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: stuff spend the morning with me, those are videos that 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: I genuinely enjoy watching on a day to day basis, 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: and that resonate with me. So, no matter what, everyone's 59 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: going to have their opinion, and I think we all 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: do a pretty good job. 61 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: Also, like you've met all of my girls. Yeah, Like 63 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 3: everyone is so like welcoming and nice. Oh yeah. 64 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I feel very lucky, honestly. 65 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: No, definitely. So let's start from the beginning. Were you 66 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: born and raised in New York City? 67 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: Born and raised in New York City? 68 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I went to USC for a year and 69 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: a half in southern California, and I lived in LA, 70 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: then transferred back finished at NYU, and then I moved 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: back to LA after college because I was kind of 72 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: thinking like maybe I just didn't love La and college 73 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: because I was in college and like I didn't really 74 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: have my bearings and whatever, and I wanted to give 75 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: La like a good try, and so I moved back 76 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 3: for a year and I still like didn't feel. 77 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: At home there. 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: But other than that, like I've lived in New York 79 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: City my whole life, I feel like it's just so 80 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: hard to leave. And my mom is like, my mom 81 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 3: is such a New York woman, Like she will never 82 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: leave New York City. So and on my dad's side, 83 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: their third generation Brooklyn New Yorkers, so like that whole 84 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: side of my family is also New York City people, 85 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: like they will never leave. So I feel like for me, 86 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: I just have my roots here and it's so hard 87 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 3: to leave. 88 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: And you know that quote that's like when you leave 89 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: New York you're going nowhere. 90 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 3: That is so just like hits for me because I 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: feel like I've traveled all over the world, but. 92 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: My heart will always be in New York City. 93 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 1: I also feel like it's kind of like me, you 94 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: can't take the girl out of Jersey. And I'm slowly 95 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: transitioning to make my move closer to the City, which 96 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm so excited about. But I'm looking in the Jersey City. 97 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: We hawk in Upper Hoboken area. I'm like, that's perfect 98 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: for me. 99 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: I have so many actually have so many influencer friends 100 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 3: who live in that area because like there's great buildings 101 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: with amazing natural light. Maybe we all all are looking 102 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: for and it's like close enough to the city that 103 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: you can go to events and like do that whole thing, 104 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: but also have your piece. 105 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: You know, definitely, And that's kind of what I'm looking for. 106 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: Every apartment building that I call, they're like, what are 107 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: you looking for? I go, modern apartment, amazing views, natural light, 108 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: and just an easy commute to the city. Yeah, and 109 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: those buildings in that area pretty much have that. And 110 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: what I would get for my money in those areas 111 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: is just so much more than what I would get 112 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: in New York. Yeah, It's just it's so worth it 113 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: because I don't have a timeline. I don't have an 114 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: end date where my mom is like, you need to 115 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: get out of the house. 116 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: So wait, you live at home. I live at home, Okay, 117 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: I live at home. Okay. 118 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: So I love that for us, literally love that for us. 119 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: That is so funny. We need to talk about that, 120 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: because like, I feel like I have so many people 121 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: that are like, when are you going to move out? 122 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: And honestly, like I've. 123 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 3: Been thinking about it because I've been working since I 124 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: was eighteen, Like I'm ready now to buy an apartment 125 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: in New York. 126 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm just like, it's so nice living at home. 127 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: It's so nic gets shooting eyed every single day and 128 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you're living off mommy's money. This is 129 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're living at home. Oh, Mommy's paying 130 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: your bills. And I'm like, only if you knew, like 131 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 1: that car insurance payment runs on my debit card every 132 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: three months, you know, just the little things where it's 133 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: obviously people are going to talk, people are gonna judge. 134 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: But if I can live at home and save my money, 135 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: why wouldn't I. Yeah, I am on the show next Gen. 136 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: Am I safe? Yes, thank you? But it's crazy because 137 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: I almost I felt pressured, but I also knew that 138 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: it is the right time for me to move out, 139 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: just because commuting from Jersey is a lot, especially when 140 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: we have a bunch of events. I'll come into the 141 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: city like right now to do my podcast and then 142 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: after this, I have an Amazon Live, then I'll have 143 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: three to four hours like in between my Amazon Live 144 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: or in between my podcast and events where I don't 145 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: know what to do, and I'm just like walking around 146 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: the city. Not like not that you're never bored, but 147 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: you know, I can't go home to refresh myself or 148 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: like get changed because the commute's too much. I would 149 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: be stuck in traffic. And that's where things would get 150 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: inconvenient for me because the commute would be too much, 151 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: and I either mis events or literally do it twice 152 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: in a day, Like I would come in, go home, change, 153 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: and then come back. So it just became exhausting. And 154 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: now being on Next Gen, all of my castmates live 155 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: on their own, whether they are supporting themselves or you know, 156 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: they're having the help of their parents, whatever it is, 157 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: they all do live on their own. And I was 158 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: the only one living at home, so and it was 159 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: almost this like, oh, she lives in Jersey and it's 160 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: a far commute for her to come to New York, 161 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: when I was like, I'm in the city every day. Yeah, 162 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: it's more so it was exhausting and I want to 163 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: try to make my life a little easier and optimize 164 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: what's in New York and be able to go to 165 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: everything that I want to go do. So I think 166 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: that's why at this point in my life, I'm like, Okay, 167 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: I kind of need to make that move, and you 168 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: probably totally understand it. We could be going to four 169 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: events at night, just bopping around trying to show your 170 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: face at each event, So it's definitely a lot if 171 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: you're not in this area. So that's why I'm like, 172 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: as much as I could stay at home until I 173 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: get married, I feel like that's literally a decision for 174 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: me right now. 175 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: I am like in that same exact boat. 176 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, I should I just like wait until I 177 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: move in with my boyfriend to like move out at 178 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 3: my mom's house. But I also feel like, I it's 179 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 3: like a good investment always, and I just think that, 180 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 3: like it is it forces you out of your comfort 181 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: zone a little bit in a way that I think 182 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: will be really great for me. I just need to 183 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: like wait until I find the perfect place and all 184 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: of that, of course, but it's nice to not have 185 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: that pressure, you know, So is it just you? 186 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: Just me? 187 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: My mom and I have a younger sister who's twenty 188 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, Okay. 189 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: Are you guys your little sorority house. 190 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: We know well because you guys are pretty close in 191 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: age though, I mean she's actually we're five years apart. 192 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: Okay, my little sister, Gigi is like my best friend 193 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 3: in the entire world. And yeah, when we were little, 194 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: I feel like the five year age difference really made 195 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 3: such a difference, and she felt so young to me, 196 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: and I was like, we're not homies like that, And 197 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: then I think once she turned eighteen, it was like, Okay, 198 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: we're like doing similar things in life, and like, I 199 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: feel like we're in the same chapter. She did the 200 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: same thing for college, where she like went away for 201 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: a year and a little bit and like went abroad 202 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: for a bit and then came back and transferred to NYU. 203 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 3: So like same situation as me, and we're. 204 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: Just so similar. 205 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 3: Like I feel so lucky to say that if me 206 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: and my sister weren't sisters, we would be friends. And 207 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: I feel like that's not the case for that many people, 208 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 3: but like, genuinely, in my situation, I would want to 209 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: be friends with my little sister if we weren't related, 210 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: which is. 211 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: Too Yeah. Yeah, so your mom is Cynthia Rowley explain 212 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: how that was growing up. Were you like her little 213 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: doll and she just dressed you all the time growing up? 214 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 3: I mean you can probably like relate to a lot 215 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: of this, like having a mom that's in the public eye. 216 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: And it's funny. 217 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: Because I get that question specifically about like my mom 218 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: dressing us a lot, and I. 219 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: Mean when my mom did that to me and she 220 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: wasn't even a fashion designers, Yeah. 221 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: Well, It's what's funny about it is that, like she 222 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: actually was so free with what we wore. And I 223 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: think it was honestly because she sees like clothing and 224 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 3: design as personal expression and so she was really like, 225 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,359 Speaker 3: wear whatever you girls want to wear. And I definitely 226 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: had like some really questionable outfits. And when I was little, 227 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: I remember there was one year that I wore a 228 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 3: birthday crown every single day for an entire year, because 229 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: like I loved getting the attention from people, like wherever 230 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: we would go, people being like happy birthday and like 231 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: sending me treats and stuff. 232 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: I literally wore that crown every single day. 233 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: And I remember, like my sister wore a SpongeBob life 234 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: jacket to her first day of kindergarten, and my mom 235 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: was just like, yeah, like this is their expression, Like 236 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: they should be able to wear whatever they want, and 237 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: so yeah, that was nice. The only thing I will 238 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: say though, is like we had access to a lot 239 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: of cool clothes, and so that helped our outfit choices 240 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: as we got older, I think, because like we were 241 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 3: always you know, around her closet and like stealing things 242 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: from her. 243 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the insfo is unreal. You can 244 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: just have endless options at all costs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 245 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: yeah was that? I mean was she who she was 246 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: like before you were born? I know this is yeah. 247 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: I mean she like has always been. 248 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: Like when did she start like designing clothes. 249 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: Like in the eighties, like a long time ago. Yeah, 250 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: And I feel like she's had like so many different 251 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 3: eras of her business. But I think also like in 252 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: recent years, it's been cool for me to see and 253 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: incorporate like what I do with social media and kind 254 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 3: of like help her not I don't want to say, 255 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,119 Speaker 3: like advise her in that space, because she was always 256 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 3: like I feel like she was one of the first 257 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: designers to be like I want to see influencers at 258 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: my shows and stuff like that. And she's always been 259 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: like very open to that idea. 260 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: But I would. 261 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: Say like having me doing what I do has also 262 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: helped inform like her social presence and like how her 263 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: business is interacting with influencers. 264 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, even just the social media aspect, like you showing 265 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: her trends and how to work TikTok literally the smallest things, 266 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: and that's what I have. That's what I do with 267 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: my mom. She's like, oh, geea, can we do this? 268 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: But can you show me how to add music to this? 269 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: And it's all a learning game for them too. And 270 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: that's what I do with my mom, even though like 271 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: they're the legends that they are in their own way, 272 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: is to teach our moms how to work TikTok and 273 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: social media that ye that didn't come to them. 274 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. 275 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: What is the best worst part about living with a 276 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: fashion icon? 277 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess I think probably the worst part, 278 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: like growing up for me was just like the idea 279 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: of living in my mom's shadow kind of and just 280 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 3: feeling like I was lost for a lot of my 281 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: childhood because my mom found like she started making dresses 282 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: for herself when she was seven years old, like laying 283 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: down on a piece of fabric on the floor, tracing 284 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 3: around her body and like sewing a dress to wear 285 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: to school. 286 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: Like she has always. 287 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: Had this passion from such a young age, and you know, 288 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: she has built it into this global brand and it's 289 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: been like so amazing to watch that and have her 290 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: as you know, an inspiration to me growing up. But 291 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: I think I was always like what do I want 292 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 3: to do? Like I didn't have that same calling, and 293 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: so like throughout my childhood, I was always like people 294 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 3: would always ask me, you know, are you going to 295 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: take over your mom's business, or like do you want 296 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 3: to work in fashion and whatever? 297 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: And I feel like I've always. 298 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: Had this appreciation for what she does and for clothes 299 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: in general, Like I love getting dressed. I love like 300 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: sharing that also with my audience and like making that 301 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: a part of my personal brand. But for me, like 302 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: the fashion industry was never I never felt called to it, 303 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 3: and like genuinely some events and stuff like that would 304 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: like give me a lot of anxiety growing up. And 305 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: so then when I was in college, I was like 306 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: sharing my life on Instagram already, and I was kind 307 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: of like building a smaller audience just like based in 308 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: New York and LA and I started just like cooking 309 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: for my friends and family, and it became a passion 310 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: of mine, and I would like share things on Instagram 311 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 3: stories here and there, and like get in the dms 312 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: and share recipes and stuff. 313 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: Like please look insane, like I really want to come over. 314 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, please please please please, like let me cook creo. 315 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: But like I guess I slowly realized over time that 316 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 3: like my audience was interested in that content and it 317 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 3: was something that I felt always like it was a 318 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: part of my calling and like it was that same 319 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: process that my mom describes with fashion design, where it's 320 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 3: like you have an idea and you get to bring 321 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 3: something to life and like you get to add your 322 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 3: sparkle to it. And I felt like, oh my gosh, 323 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 3: this is my creative calling, Like this is my creative 324 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: outlet that I've been searching for. And then like being 325 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 3: able to share that with an audience that I had 326 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 3: already been growing was so fulfilling. And now it's like 327 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: the biggest part of my online presence and what I. 328 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: See for my future in this space. So yeah, I 329 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: think that was like I took that question all over 330 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 2: the place. 331 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: No, no, but I totally understand that. 332 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 2: Was the harder thing growing up was just like, well. 333 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: It's also just the pressure of are you going to 334 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: do this? And just like you were saying, okay, am 335 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: I gonna Are you gonna take over your mom's company? 336 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be this generational thing and no matter 337 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: what your mom's company is will always stand strong. But 338 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like as much as the pressure 339 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: of you taking it over, it's also the pressure within 340 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: yourself of do I really want to always have that 341 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: pressure of living under her shadow or maybe not doing 342 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: it the way she did it and having that whole pressure. 343 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: And I mean it was kind of the same, like 344 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: different obviously different scales, but even me coming on to 345 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: reality TV and people just always assuming that I'm like 346 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: a mini Teresa, which that's amazing in different aspects, but 347 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, my mom is Teresa Judice standing on her own. 348 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: I would never be able to be Teresa Judice. I 349 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: could never flip a table and be an icon for 350 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: like twenty years or like she's like, you know, she's 351 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: an outstanding icon in the reality TV space, and I 352 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: want to build that within me and not people just assume, oh, 353 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: this is like a mini Teresa in the making, Like, no, 354 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: I want to really show you guys who I am. 355 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's the constant battle that we will 356 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,479 Speaker 1: always kind of find with ourselves as we're trying to 357 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: also just show our audience who we really are. So 358 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: but as much as I love filming content with my 359 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: mom and doing all of that, because she obviously is 360 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: my mom, She's so funny, she is the person that 361 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: I look up to, but it does it. There's just 362 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 1: I guess it's just the public that really causes all 363 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: the stress and ourselves, but we don't make that too 364 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: public exactly. But you posted a video when your mom 365 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: was like saving your clothes and that when viral, that 366 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,239 Speaker 1: was like crazy, Yeah, so she just like can do 367 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: anything on hand. 368 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: I mean this is like this is also I think 369 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: something that people don't really consider anymore because to be 370 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 3: a fashion designer now, like you don't really have to 371 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 3: have the skill of making clothes and sewing. You can 372 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 3: be a fashion designer and you know, make cads with 373 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: AI and send it to a factory and have those 374 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: samples me and like you don't need to have the 375 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: actual skill of of cutting and sewing and creating patterns 376 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 3: and like the skills that you used to have to 377 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 3: be a fashion designer. But since my mom has been 378 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: doing this for so long, she has all those skills 379 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 3: she can so I can, like, like she has made 380 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: so many special pieces for me, like my prom dress, 381 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 3: and like she'll redo vintage items for me and have 382 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 3: them fit me perfectly and like stuff like that. 383 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: And I always say I have a personal tailor, which. 384 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 3: Is like so nice, and obviously she's like way more 385 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: important than that, is obvious, but like she does have 386 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 3: she does have all of those skills, which is really 387 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 3: cool because she can take something like, you know, a 388 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 3: vintage piece from her closet or you know, something that 389 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 3: I find on eBay or like something like that and 390 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: make it something super special and like give it a 391 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 3: new life for me. But I also just like love 392 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: seeing her go through that process because like she'll add 393 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: her little touches to things and I'm like, wow, this 394 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 3: is so cool. 395 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's sick, yeah, And just like you were saying, 396 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy, because it also do sows your 397 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: appreciation for her that much more. The fact that she 398 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: could actually turn something out of nothing and she genuinely 399 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: can design and create something beautiful when now it's just 400 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: crazy the world that we live in that everything could 401 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: be done and created on AI and through a machine 402 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: and you don't even have to do any work at 403 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, which is nuts. 404 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: No, it's crazy, it's wild. 405 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's talk about your time on The Bachelor 406 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,959 Speaker 1: with Matt James. What made you want to go on 407 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: the Bachelor? 408 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: So, I I think still to this day, I was 409 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: the youngest person. 410 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: To ever be on The Bachelor. 411 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: How old were I was? 412 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 2: Twenty one? 413 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 414 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 3: And it was just like the type of thing where 415 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 3: I was doing online classes because of COVID and I 416 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 3: got a DM from like this random account. It literally 417 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: had eight hundred followers and all the posts on the 418 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 3: account were like Bachelor related casting stuff, and the woman 419 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 3: reached out to me and she was like, hey, like 420 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 3: I would love to, you know, just get you on 421 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 3: a zoom. We're casting for a new reality dating show. 422 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 3: And I was like, huh, like I wonder what this 423 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 3: is about, but. 424 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: Also like it could so be like. 425 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 3: A scam or something like eight hundred followers on this 426 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: random account, like what am I doing? But I ended 427 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: up meeting with her and going through the whole process, 428 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: and I feel like it was just the type of 429 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 3: thing where I was thinking to myself, like, I'm twenty one, 430 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 3: I'll never do something like this again in my life, 431 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: you know. Like it was just like something at the 432 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 3: time that I was thinking of in a lighthearted way. 433 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: And again, I probably should have like considered it a 434 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 3: little bit more because it could have gone so in 435 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: the opposite direction. And like you see people's entire careers 436 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 3: like ruined by reality TV. But lucky for me, like 437 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 3: it wasn't that bad. I got a good edit, as 438 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: they will say in the industry. But I feel like I, yeah, 439 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: I just wanted to take a risk, and I feel 440 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 3: like I had been sort of in this bubble of 441 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 3: like New York City, the fashion scene kind of, and 442 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 3: I was just like, I want to do something that 443 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 3: takes me out of that world and like something that's 444 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 3: really on my own, because like, as much as people 445 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: will always tie me to my mom and my family, 446 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: I feel like doing something that was just so unexpected, unexpected, 447 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: and like in fact, my mom was like, what are 448 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: you doing. I feel like it was kind of my 449 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: rebellious stage a little bit. And again, it was just 450 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 3: something that like I knew I would not have done 451 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: later in life. 452 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 2: And it was just like a let me just do 453 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: this and see what happened. 454 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I was also probably like you were saying, 455 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: when you were trying to like find yourself, so you 456 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: were probably just like, let me do something that makes 457 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: me be seen and makes me step out of my 458 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: comfort zone and do something that people wouldn't expect from 459 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: Cynthia Rally's daughter. 460 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 461 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 3: And it's it's like some people get piercing, some people 462 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: go like, get a tattooing, some people go, yeah, I 463 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: get a tattoo, and some people go on reality TV? 464 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah did you get what you wanted out of it? 465 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: Honestly, Like I was so surprised, Like I look back. 466 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 2: On that experience and I'm like, oh my gosh, that 467 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 2: was a fever dream. 468 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 3: Would you ever like, now I'm a boyfriend, so well 469 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 3: you not a dating show? But I would definitely do 470 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 3: reality TV again. It just like depends on if it's 471 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 3: the right setting for me and stuff, and I would 472 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 3: like want it to be something that would tell a 473 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: little bit more of my story. 474 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: Next time, I might say. 475 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe, Honestly, my dream Hello. 476 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 477 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 3: So I think like for me, it was such a 478 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 3: surprising experience because when I got there, I was like, 479 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 3: this is kind of a joke. And again, like I 480 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 3: was just like, okay, Like this is a guy that 481 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: is twenty eight, he lives in New York, Like I 482 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 3: probably would have gone on a date with him at 483 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: the time, like twenty one, I was dating around like whatever, 484 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 3: and I got there and I was like, yeah, but 485 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: I probably won't actually like him. And then overtime, I 486 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 3: think it's partially because you're just in this bubble where 487 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 3: like every. 488 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: Almost like you're in like a simulation. 489 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: No literally, and like everyone around you was like this 490 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: is the best guy ever, like we all want him, 491 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and then you kind of like get 492 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 3: convinced overtime, and like also like I had like good 493 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: conversations with him and like I felt like we vibed also, 494 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: so that added to the confusion a little bit. But 495 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: I think like in the back of my mind always 496 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 3: I was like, this is still a show, Like we're 497 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 3: still putting on a show. Like let's keep that in 498 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 3: the back of my mind. But people definitely get swept 499 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: up in. 500 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 2: It for sure. 501 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: Oh I'm sure, yeah, when the season was going on, 502 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: because obviously he ended up with Rachel and now this 503 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: whole thing happened between him and Rachel and it was 504 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: all over because then after the Bachelor, they were also 505 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: in the influencing world and really like and we're very 506 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: successful with their tiktoks and everything like that. Have you 507 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: ever seen them around at events? 508 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 3: And I'm still friends with Rachel and I genuinely love her, 509 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: like I want the absolute best for her, and we've 510 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: been friends like when they were together. 511 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 2: Too, So I feel like, just like after the show. 512 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: It was kind of like, okay, yeah, technically we all 513 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: dated your boyfriend, but like at the same time, it 514 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 3: again like I think it's coming back to reality and 515 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 3: being like, Okay, that was a show. Yeah, like nothing happened, 516 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: Like it's just totally fine. And I just like always 517 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: thought that she was such a great girl and still do. 518 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: I haven't really seen him, honestly, and I think. 519 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: Really seen him at a couple events, Okay, like over 520 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: the past year, any of the red flags that were 521 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: obviously know now, yeah, did you ever did you guys 522 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: ever feel that when you guys were filming. 523 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 3: Like it was so long ago at this point, and 524 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 3: I feel like I was so much like I don't know, 525 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: like I just didn't see it at the time, and 526 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 3: I think. 527 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: Well, like you said, you're all gagging over this god like, 528 00:28:54,840 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: so there's like for him, just you're not like looking, oh, 529 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: is that a red flag or you know, little things 530 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: like that, where when obviously Rachel became open about talking 531 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: about it, I guess it could totally be understandable, like 532 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: what he was doing, Yeah, how that could have been, 533 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: Like how that was happening during that relationship. 534 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: I feel like everyone can relate to that idea that 535 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 3: you like are dating someone and like in the moment, 536 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: you're so obsessed with them and like all of. 537 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: Their red flags just go right over your head. 538 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 3: And then like you look back, like years later when 539 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 3: you're healed or just like on to like a help, 540 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 3: when you're in a healthy relationship, and you're like, oh 541 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 3: my gosh, I can't believe that I normalized that behavior 542 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 3: like that was so whack. But in the moment, you 543 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 3: just like don't see it. 544 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: You don't see it, you're so blind to it. Yeah, 545 00:29:48,920 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: but I'm happy she's doing great, well, he's doing good. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, 546 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: did your guy friends view you differently after the Bachelor. 547 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: I mean, to be honest, like I don't really have 548 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: that many guy friends, Like I feel like I really 549 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: I have like a few, but like I'm just I've 550 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 3: and I've always been this way, like I'm just a 551 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 3: girls like girls girl like I I don't know, I 552 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 3: like genuinely, until like I started dating my boyfriend, men 553 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: were like so foreign to me, and I just like 554 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: I love girling around and like hanging. 555 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 2: With the girls. 556 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 3: So I have like a few guy friends and like 557 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: family guy friends and stuff like that that I remember 558 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: people being like, huh, that's interesting. But yeah, I feel 559 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: like no one was no one really questioned it that 560 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 3: much because I feel like I was already on social 561 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: media and kind of like doing. 562 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: That whole thing. Yeah that it made sense at the time. 563 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: No, yeah, I get it. I mean even with my boyfriend, 564 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: his friends are my friends. 565 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So it's exactly like. 566 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: I don't have like anyone else who I would say, 567 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: who I would call up and be like hey, like no, 568 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: it's my boyfriend's friends, and I like don't like, it's 569 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: just it's different. 570 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 571 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never I guess the only time I've actually 572 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: had guy friends where like was probably in high school, yeah, 573 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: and then you have your friend group, But then I 574 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: started dating my boyfriend, and then I guess in college 575 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: too a little bit. But once I started dating my boyfriend, 576 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: all those guy friends kind of went out the window. 577 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: And now his friends are my friends. So definitely a different, 578 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: different aspect of guy friends. Do you regret anything from 579 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: the show? 580 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 3: Honestly, no, because I feel like there were certain moments 581 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 3: where like maybe I lashed out a little bit, or 582 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: like it was a little bit harsher a commentary. 583 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: And stuff like that. But I feel like. 584 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: People always say, like the bad edit thing, But the 585 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 3: thing about that is like they can't make you do 586 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: anything that you don't want to do, so like any 587 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 3: bad edit that you get is just like things that 588 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: you actually did and or things that you actually said, 589 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 3: and like, I don't know, I just feel like you 590 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: have to stand on that, you know, like maybe I 591 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 3: made some mistakes and have apologized for those things, but 592 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, like that's genuinely how 593 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: I felt in that moment based on the information I 594 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 3: was given. 595 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, I. 596 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 3: Think you just have to stand on it if you 597 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: make mistakes, you apologize and move on. 598 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: You know, you have to just own your shoes. Yeah, 599 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: that point. I know. Now you do have a boyfriend 600 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: and you guys are long distance. Can you tell me 601 00:32:58,600 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about him? 602 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I actually met my boyfriend in college at USC. 603 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: He's from London, but he went to college in the States. 604 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 3: And it's so funny because he like went to an 605 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 3: all boys boarding school growing up, and he like got 606 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: to America and he was like in college like in 607 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 3: a frat being like living in a fast. 608 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: Life, you know. 609 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 3: And when I met him in college, I was like, 610 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 3: this is not for me, Like I don't want a. 611 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 2: Frat boy, Like I don't want like that vibe. 612 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 3: And then years and years later, like we reconnected. He 613 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: says that he like DMed me a million times on 614 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 3: Instagram and I did not notice that, but I always 615 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 3: like thought he was cute and would see him around 616 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 3: because we have a few mutual friends. And then he 617 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 3: was like, hey, you know, can I take you on 618 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 3: a date like months ago? And I was just like, 619 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 3: you know. 620 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: What, like let's give it a try. 621 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: Because I always like thought he was cute or would 622 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 3: have conversations with him here and there like if I 623 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: would see him out and yeah, I just like I'm 624 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 3: genuinely so so so happy. We've been together now for 625 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 3: like a little over a year and a half and 626 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 3: like I am just so I feel like I found 627 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 3: my person, Like I feel so happy. 628 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: So does he live in the States. 629 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 2: No, he lives in London still, but he is doing 630 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,959 Speaker 2: to New York. No, it's just. 631 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 3: Like it's been such a long process of him like 632 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: moving here. But I love visiting London, so it's like 633 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: not the end of the world. 634 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: You know. 635 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: How often do you see him? 636 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 3: Like every few weeks we try to do because it's amazing. 637 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: I'll go there, He'll come to New York or his 638 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 3: dad lives in Saint Bart's so we can meet that 639 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: beautiful there, which is like close. 640 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, that's awesome. And then now he's making his 641 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: move to New York. 642 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm so happy. 643 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 1: Is he doing that like on his own or is 644 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: this like maybe you're calling to move out? 645 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 3: I am like I feel like I at twenty six, 646 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I need still some time before we 647 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: move in together, Like I'm gonna take my time with that. 648 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 3: I feel like because again, like I've never lived besides, 649 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 3: like when I lived in LA for a year, Like 650 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,280 Speaker 3: I've never lived really alone, and I've never lived alone 651 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 3: in New York, and I feel like I need that 652 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 3: era of like being well. 653 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 2: I own space. 654 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you, That's what I'm doing. Yeah, 655 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: So I'm moving alone at first, and then eventually my 656 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: boyfriend is gonna come move in with me and we'll 657 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: figure out when that time is right. But at least, 658 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, for now, I'm moving like next month, So 659 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: at least for right now, I'm doing this chapter alone 660 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm I'm excited for it. I can't 661 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: wait to just like be alone and really navigate that 662 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: because I've I'm definitely gonna be scared just the thought 663 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: of sleeping alone. Yeah, like no matter what somebody is 664 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: in the house. 665 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 2: Yeah no, And now. 666 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be alone and I'm like terrified. 667 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 668 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 3: So I think that's like important for self growth for sure, perc. 669 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 3: Like I feel like I don't get the whole, like 670 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 3: when people are asking questions like pressuring, like when are 671 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 3: you guys gonna move in? Or when are you gonna 672 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 3: get engaged or like any of that, Like I don't 673 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 3: understand that because when you see someone as like your 674 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 3: life partner or someone that you want to spend like 675 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,840 Speaker 3: be in a long term relationship with, Like I don't 676 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 3: have that pressure of rushing because I'm like, oh, we'll 677 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 3: just do that down the line, like well, just like 678 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: do those things eventually. And I don't feel that like 679 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,720 Speaker 3: anxiety or pressure about like rushing things along because. 680 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: Either and we're still in our twenties, we're still so young. 681 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: But it's it's more so like the public opinion. My 682 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: boyfriend gets DMS and just sees comments on my page 683 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: like engaged yet, when are you guys gonna move? And 684 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: but even on next gen it's like when are you 685 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: guys moving in together? And it's like the poor kid 686 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: just like let him breathe, and he doesn't even know 687 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: if he wants to be in this world. It's crazy 688 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: like the public world. I mean, you know, because there's 689 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure with it, and it's it's 690 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: a full adjustment. Like does your boyfriend do tiktoks with 691 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: you and stuff? No, he's like nervous. 692 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: Yea, I mean he'll like how do you navigate that? 693 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: So, I mean I think the tiktoks are the first 694 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: humph that we kind of just got over. And now 695 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: Christian is becoming more comfortable filming tiktoks with me or 696 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 1: doing like, you know, the little trends you see of 697 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: the couple's tiktoks and stuff. But him being on reality 698 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: TV actually gives him so much anxiety, and I obviously 699 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: don't like. I try to understand it as much as 700 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: I can, but because I grew up on it since 701 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: I was little, I'm just like, don't worry about it, 702 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: be yourself. I try to give him the best advice, 703 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: but obviously, going from not being in the public eye 704 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,439 Speaker 1: at all to then exposing yourself to the public where 705 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: you can get so much scrutiny and just public opinion 706 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: and backlash, and it's scary because to the normal person, 707 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: nobody really wants to deal with that and add that 708 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: stressor onto their plate. So he was on Next Gen 709 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: a little bit and everyone actually ended up loving him, 710 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: and he looked amazing on season one, and I was like, 711 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: I want you to look amazing a million times over again. 712 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: If I look maybe I look like this season. I 713 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: don't care. As long as you look good and you're happy, 714 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: that's all that I care about because I would never 715 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: want to see my partner like struggle with trying to 716 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: bring him into my world because I would feel responsible 717 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: for that. So I think it's like I've been with 718 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: him for six years now, so it's kind of like 719 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: little baby steps, like he was maybe for a scene 720 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: or two on real Houses in New Jersey. Then he 721 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: made a couple like little cameos on Next Gen, and 722 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: then with TikTok, I do videos here and there. So 723 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 1: I think it's all about getting comfortable, and he's slowly 724 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: been getting more and more comfortable, but then there's certain 725 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: spots where he's like, Okay, this makes me really nervous. Yeah, 726 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: So I think it's like a whole like transition thing. Yeah, 727 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: but I mean I get it. But then it's also 728 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: as much as it's hard for us to understand a 729 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: little bit too because we grew up in it and 730 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: is kind of our norm, but it's totally not their norm. 731 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: So it's like it is a transition thing. 732 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's definitely like a balance and like 733 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 3: we've had so many conversations about it, Like me and 734 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,879 Speaker 3: my boyfriend have had so many conversations about it, and 735 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 3: I just feel like for me, Like he's never going 736 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 3: to be a mainstay of my content. Like, yes, I 737 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 3: my audience, those are my girls, and like they don't even. 738 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 2: Need to really like see you or like know you. 739 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 3: Yes, Like I want people to obviously know that I'm 740 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 3: in a relationship. And I like talking about him because 741 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with him and I like him so much. 742 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 3: But like I just never want to tie him like 743 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 3: so much to my business because at the end of 744 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: the day, like that's my work and that's my business, 745 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 3: and I want to keep that like separate from our relationship, 746 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 3: Like I want our relationship to be more secret and 747 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 3: like keep that for us. But of course, like he's 748 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 3: in things here and there, and like he's so supportive 749 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,919 Speaker 3: and happy for me, but I think he's just like, yeah, 750 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 3: I don't know about like being so in front of 751 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 3: the camera, you know. 752 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: So it's all a balance and maybe one day he'll 753 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: be like, babe, I'm ready. Yeah, you know, you never know, 754 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: and they catch you by surprise when they say random things, 755 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: like Christian will say random thanks to me, and I'm like, 756 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: oh really yeah, and he's like, I mean only if 757 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: you want to, and I'm like, I mean I would 758 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 1: love to like of course, but it's like a whole 759 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 1: like it's like a whole adjusting thing. Like tomorrow we're 760 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: going to the US Open and I'm going with a 761 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: brand and I was like, you know, do you want 762 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: to maybe like we'll take some tiktoks and like videos 763 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: and he's like okay, like. 764 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 2: All right, and he guys prepared. 765 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I'm gonna let you know now, and 766 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: he was like, okay, I know. I'm excited because I 767 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: was like, all right, I could bring a girlfriend to 768 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: the US Open, or like I could bring my boyfriend, 769 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, this is a sports event, like 770 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: maybe this is something I. 771 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 2: Thought my boyfriend was Celsius and like it was so fun. 772 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 1: So fun, So I'm definitely excited for that. How have 773 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: you stayed grounded and like a long distance relationship, Like 774 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: what has been your biggest I. 775 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 3: Mean we we really are like super regimented about scheduling 776 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 3: time together and like planning trips to see each other. 777 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: He's a planner. 778 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 3: I mean, the thing is like I say that and 779 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 3: he's like very last minute and spons but we just 780 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 3: like never let it go so long, like we're not like, 781 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, in three weeks, we're gonna like go 782 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 3: on this trip or whatever. 783 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 2: Like he's very. 784 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 3: Much like like he's in New York now and he's like, Okay, 785 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 3: I'm booking a flight to go home tonight, and like 786 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 3: he's just gonna leave tonight, and like, but we've been 787 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 3: together for the past three weeks, Like he's been in 788 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 3: New York for the. 789 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,879 Speaker 2: Past three weeks. So I feel like we just have like. 790 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 3: We don't go too long without seeing one another. And 791 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 3: on top of that, like when we're apart, we call 792 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 3: every day of course text usually like throughout the day. 793 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,720 Speaker 3: But like also again like this goes to my point 794 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 3: from before about like I see my life with this 795 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 3: person in the future. So like this time for us 796 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,280 Speaker 3: is just like we'll have to navigate this and sometimes 797 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 3: it's hard. Sometimes it's also like there's benefits to it. 798 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 3: Like when we're not together, we're so focused on work 799 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 3: and like grinding, and you know, I have that time 800 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 3: with my girlfriends or whatever it is, my family, So 801 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 3: I'm not like I'm just not so stressed about this 802 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 3: time because I know there's like an end goal for us. 803 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, no, And that's so true. I feel 804 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: like when That's why I'm even so excited to just 805 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: like move into my apartment by myself. Because when you're 806 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: I feel like alone and focused, you're grinding with work, 807 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 1: and that time apart, you're like, Okay, well, I'm now 808 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,399 Speaker 1: so excited to then see you the next time. And 809 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: as much as long distance I'm sure is so difficult, 810 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 1: it probably grows your love for each other like times 811 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: a million, because then you're so excited to see each 812 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 1: other again. But you also just launched a pasta brand 813 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: that is incredible. Wait, you need to send me some. 814 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to try some. 815 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: You're going to be o chessa, So tell me about that. 816 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,839 Speaker 1: Because your recipes, like you said, are your gift and 817 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: that is your that's your niche. You love doing that. 818 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: So how did this come about? 819 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I I've always wanted to like have a 820 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 3: brand in the CpG space, like snacks or packaged goods, 821 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 3: and this was like my first little foray into that space. 822 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 2: So we just did a limited run. 823 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 3: And it was such a funny backstory because a few 824 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 3: years ago I got a PR package from eight one 825 00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 3: to eight Tequila okay, and it was a bottle of 826 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 3: tequila and then they had this pasta that was shaped 827 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 3: in the numbers of eight, one eight. Each of the pasta, 828 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 3: individual pieces of pasta were a number. 829 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my gosh, that's so cute. 830 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 3: It's so nostalgic because like I grew up eating SpongeBob 831 00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 3: mac and cheese. 832 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love it. 833 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 3: And so I found the manufacturer who did that for 834 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 3: them and reached out to them and just did a 835 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 3: limited round of my own pasta. And they're all like 836 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 3: really fun shapes, like we did a flower, a hairbow, 837 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 3: and a heart and it's called canoodle, which is like 838 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: just a cute play on words. And yeah, it's just 839 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 3: been a fun project. I also think it's like good 840 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 3: for my followers to learn that they can buy like 841 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 3: packaged food from me, because that's like a actually what 842 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 3: I want to do in life, Like I have my 843 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 3: own brand in that space. 844 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 2: So yeah, this was just like a little foray into it. 845 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 3: And it's been so fun like learning about what my 846 00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 3: followers want and you know, watching my audience like create 847 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 3: in the kitchen with this product, and yeah, it's been 848 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 3: it's been really fun. And like I I just. 849 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 2: Have loved like the whole process of it. 850 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: Oh that's amazing. I'm so proud of you. 851 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. 852 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: So can you tell all the Casual Chaos listeners where 853 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: to find you? 854 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 2: Yes, just follow me on TikTok and Instagram at kit Keenan. 855 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 1: All right, kay, well, thank you so much for coming 856 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: on Casual Chaos. This was such a fun episode, so 857 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: fun