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Speaker 2: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: Let's hear that both tonight thought the.

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Speaker 2: Job could fret beers fund out.

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Speaker 3: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved

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Speaker 3: bullshit artist.

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Speaker 5: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: Oh I could be back in your life. Sunday, July tenth,

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty two. It's episode three fifty six of the

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Speaker 6: Anakind Florian Podcast starring former three time UFC title challenger

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Speaker 6: Kenny Florian. You know they say you're not supposed to

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Speaker 6: have aspartame for more reasons than one like Ken Flow

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Speaker 6: hasn't had aspartame in a long time. Right. I went

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Speaker 6: for a run this morning. I had some diet coke

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Speaker 6: and it messes with your voice. So I only drink

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Speaker 6: coffee and tea very rarely will I have a Monster

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Speaker 6: energy drink on fight night if I really need it.

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Speaker 6: But we we we bank some aspartame this morning, Ken Floam,

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Speaker 6: we're paying the price.

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Speaker 2: I had never heard that about the voice kid. That's crazy.

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Speaker 6: No citrus and aspertain both very bad. People think, oh yeah,

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Speaker 6: hot water with lemon. No no citrus on fight night

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Speaker 6: for commentators out there. But it is good to be

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Speaker 6: back with everybody. Uh, what have you been doing? Even

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Speaker 6: shooting guns, doing all sorts of tactical training, just becoming

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Speaker 6: like a more lethal human weapon in your spare time.

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Speaker 6: Is that what you've been doing basically?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, the thing is I'm getting older, all right,

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Speaker 2: so so my back isn't as good as it used

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Speaker 2: to be. And I I just enjoyed doing that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like I get obsessed with certain things and then when

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Speaker 2: I get into it, like I need to be doing

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Speaker 2: it or thinking about it all the time. So like

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Speaker 2: I I'm trying to get better learning a lot and

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Speaker 2: uh and having some fun. I shout out to my guy,

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Speaker 2: Scott Jolensky, the Jedi read Dot expert.

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Speaker 6: He was an amazing coach. So learned a lot last week. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: good stuff. Speaking of your age in terms of competitive

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Speaker 6: jiu jitsu, you got that little gym in your house

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Speaker 6: so to speak. Right now with the padded walls and

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Speaker 6: everything else. Those you know jones in to see you

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Speaker 6: back on the competitive jiu jitsu circuit. They should not

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Speaker 6: hold their breath. Is that the deal? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: So you know, my back's been bad for a while,

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Speaker 2: but I have there's no rhyme or reason of what

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Speaker 2: sets it off. Like I haven't been able to train

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Speaker 2: more than two or three times a week in a

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Speaker 2: long time. Dude, Like my I don't get it. I'll

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Speaker 2: do all the things I'm supposed to be doing and

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Speaker 2: my back just like turns to garbage. So got to

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Speaker 2: figure someuth out. I'm thinking about maybe some stem cell

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Speaker 2: or something for my back. Yeah, and my hip and

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Speaker 2: my knee and something else. But anyways, yeah, I'm deteriorating, John.

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Speaker 2: That's that's yeah, that's the short story.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, Buffer said to me a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 6: He's like, hey man, you know every decision you make

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Speaker 6: right now you're going to pay for in twenty years.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, whoa, bro, I'm just trying to go

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Speaker 6: for a fucking walk in Singapore before the pay per view,

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Speaker 6: you know. But obviously Buff takes great care of himself.

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Speaker 6: You know. I think for a lot of us, we

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Speaker 6: work hard, we play hard, right Uh, And I guess

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Speaker 6: I should just leave it at that. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Bruce still doing splits, John, I think, oh.

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Speaker 6: All sorts of stuff. I mean, you should see who's

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Speaker 6: warm up before he announces.

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Speaker 2: He's a beast.

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Speaker 6: Just stay out of his range. You know, his management

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Speaker 6: isn't so good. With his kicks and his his pre fight,

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Speaker 6: He'll slap.

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Speaker 2: You in the face with his foot. There's no question

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Speaker 6: There's no doubt about it. If I was an athlete

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Speaker 6: Get this lunatic out of my face. He's screaming. Fan's

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Speaker 6: All right, headlines Today, we'll focus on UFC Fight Night,

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Speaker 6: which just evaporated a few hours ago. It was UFC

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Speaker 6: Fight Night Dosanjos versus physive at the old Ufcapex. Always

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Speaker 6: Mobile Arena thirty foot octagone back to the twenty five

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Speaker 6: footer at the UFC Apex. Really good main event, Really

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Speaker 6: good performance for Rafael Phazebe gets the knockout of Hafayel

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Speaker 6: Dosanos at eighteen seconds of round five. It came after

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Speaker 6: RDA had a particularly strong round four, after Physibe really

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Speaker 6: Plus one fifty for those who had Phazev by knockout,

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Speaker 6: TKO or DQ. Your thoughts on the lightweight main event

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Speaker 6: just a few short hours ago, My man.

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Speaker 2: We know a lot more about Rafael Physivee than we

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Speaker 2: did before. You know, this was the fight that I

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Speaker 2: was kind of most looking forward to. To see what's

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Speaker 2: this guy all about? You know, is he the real deal?

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Speaker 2: And beating someone like a or haf Hal Dozandros sorry,

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Speaker 2: I think dos Angos obviously has been in a lot

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Speaker 2: he's still a phenomenal fighter who was dangerous in a

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Speaker 6: His potential trajectory in the UFC.

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Speaker 2: I think he's a guy that I would, you know,

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Speaker 6: Seemed like the narrative on broadcast at the beginning of

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Speaker 6: main event. But Rafayel Phazibe obviously was not cooked. Obviously

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Speaker 6: will let Chase Sherman bractically kill Jared Vandera earlier in

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair. I would have liked to see, uh,

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Speaker 6: I think that he was certainly hurt.

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Speaker 2: It was a beautiful shot, a left hook that went

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Speaker 2: that Physique was actually kind of landing throughout that fight intermittently,

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Speaker 2: and that one ultimately just crushed dos Angos. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: him in trouble absolutely. But you know, to go back

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Speaker 2: to your point about the Chase Sherman bendera fight, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean it's like eve Levine. If you have seen

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Speaker 6: seventy three with Ken Flow and Alvin Robinson, they're on

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Speaker 6: Ray at the top of the show this week, and

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Speaker 6: we were very privileged to be joined by the long

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Speaker 6: Oh man, my goodness, gracious, look at your colorations. You

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Speaker 6: look great. It did look great.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, I don't say anything.

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Speaker 2: Look, we got to get the rest of you.

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Speaker 6: We got to get the rest of your hair in

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Speaker 6: the shop. Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 2: Look beautiful.

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Speaker 6: It is amazing how gracefully you are aging I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I exercise. I live in Florida. I exercise outside most

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you first if I don't sit out

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Speaker 6: If I have we look like a podium, right.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, but even like the first twenty minutes

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Speaker 4: I don't know what to say, but uh.

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Speaker 6: Did I talked about your appearance? We should get right

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Speaker 4: Me tell you something.

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Speaker 7: Golden years go fuck you, there's nothing but golden white.

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Speaker 7: This is horrible. Don't get old. That's my advice to

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Speaker 6: Are you gonna be one of those guys who has

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Speaker 4: Life is good for Ken Flow.

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Speaker 7: And that was a very very nice texture sent me John,

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Speaker 7: Mark is a great guy. You'd love I don't know

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Speaker 6: He's just, oh yeah, great guy. Yeah, really nice guy.

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Speaker 6: Respect I was thinking more like Bennedict Arnold.

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Speaker 2: Not that isn't dangerous.

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Speaker 7: why I say I think a younger, more aggressive RDA

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00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 7: probably wins that fight, you.

439
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,880
Speaker 2: Know, with all the other tools that he has.

440
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Speaker 7: But I just think it's it just sucks, man, Like

441
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Speaker 7: I just I've seen it so many times, and you know,

442
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 7: nobody really knows what's going on. But you know, it's

443
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Speaker 7: hard getting a young guy to a fight uninjured, you

444
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Speaker 7: know what I mean.

445
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 6: It's just is this is just.

446
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Speaker 7: A tough, tough sport, and you know there's going to

447
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Speaker 7: be certain guys that their injuries are going to be

448
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,439
Speaker 7: less and I think those are the guys that are

449
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 7: going to shine through. But you know, I thought I

450
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,680
Speaker 7: agree with Kenny. I thought he was having way more success.

451
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 7: I think just based on like the Bobby Green fight,

452
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Speaker 7: I would have made him expend energy in.

453
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Speaker 4: That realm and then went to the takedown.

454
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Speaker 7: Gonna have to endure, right, you got to get through

455
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 7: a little bit of you know, tenseness there with the striking,

456
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,959
Speaker 7: but that that was that would have been my approach.

457
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 7: We're gonna push him on at the first two and

458
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Speaker 7: then we're gonna take him down and beat him up.

459
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Speaker 7: You know that I.

460
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Speaker 2: Would have tried that, but you know, and I thought

461
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Speaker 2: he looked like he was doing fine. I agree absolutely

462
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Speaker 2: with Ray, and I think for get Chee, you know,

463
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Speaker 2: to go back to Geechee. I don't know if Gaechee

464
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Speaker 2: takes that fight because you know, I don't know how

465
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Speaker 2: much he has to gain. I think there's guys with

466
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Speaker 2: bigger names that are as dangerous or less dangerous that

467
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Speaker 2: he could take on. He's got a lot to lose

468
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,119
Speaker 2: in that fight. And because he's got a lot to

469
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Speaker 2: gain if that fight happened. So it's it's gonna take

470
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Speaker 2: some negotiation for sure to make that fight happen. But

471
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Speaker 2: I like to call out, you know, no to fight.

472
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Speaker 7: I'd like to see I'd like to see him go

473
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Speaker 7: up against that guy Gamra.

474
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Speaker 2: But who's the guy at Florida.

475
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Speaker 7: That's good to see because that's a guy with a

476
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Speaker 7: guess thank from hell, and he could he's not stopping,

477
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 7: you know what I mean. You're gonna have to stop

478
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 7: him early or I think he just he'll he'll run

479
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Speaker 7: into the ground. That guy that that pace at him

480
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 7: and uh Seroukian put on was was crazy, like crazy.

481
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 7: It was triple the pace a last night, you know,

482
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Speaker 7: like I don't know who's holding up to that.

483
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Speaker 6: So that's a camrock and wrestle boy.

484
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he can wrestle. That's a guy I'd like

485
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Speaker 7: to see. I'd love to see that. Good attitudes on

486
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 7: both guys. You know, they're both at the right time

487
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 7: in their careers, you know, instead of picking a guy

488
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 7: that's been around for a while, he's been in major fights.

489
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Speaker 8: You know.

490
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Speaker 7: Is I think sometimes you just lose that hunger, you

491
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Speaker 7: know what I mean. And whether you're saying it or

492
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Speaker 7: you're not saying it, I'm saying subconsciously. That's what happens

493
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Speaker 7: a lot of times. You know, your brain is always

494
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Speaker 7: going to say, look, I'm making another run. I could

495
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 7: beat this guy, could beat that guy. But the reality

496
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 7: of it is you're not You're not the guy anymore,

497
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Speaker 7: you know. And uh, that's a fight I'd rather see

498
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Speaker 7: than the Gaichee fight. But the gaiche fight would be explosive.

499
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 6: But yeah, the lightweights are pretty strategic too. I do

500
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 6: think a lot of them are trying to angle for

501
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Speaker 6: specific matchups and will hold out and uh more on

502
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Speaker 6: that in a moment, quickly want to get to the scorecards.

503
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Speaker 6: Derek Cleary had it thirty eight to thirty eight going

504
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Speaker 6: into that fifty Rogo just had it three to one

505
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 6: Raphael Bazi. So in terms of selectivity among contenders, right, so,

506
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 6: Sean Strickland thought Alex Padata an unranked guy. Now I

507
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 6: don't know if Sean Strickland got a new contractor got

508
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 6: more money to accept a fight against a wicked, dangerous

509
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Speaker 6: guy who wasn't even ranked. But right now I believe

510
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Speaker 6: Balao Muhammad's rank maybe four or five in the world,

511
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Speaker 6: beat the Cente Luke who was also four or five

512
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Speaker 6: in the world, and now is going to fight Sean Brady,

513
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Speaker 6: who in a lot of respects as the boogeyman at

514
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 6: one hundred and seventy pounds, who seemingly nobody wants to fight.

515
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Speaker 6: I do think Balal and Brady stylistically have some similarities.

516
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Speaker 6: And I don't know why Billal accepted that fight, you know,

517
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 6: maybe establishing some promotional goodwill, Maybe he got more money,

518
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 6: you know, maybe he just wants to prove, hey, I'll

519
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 6: beat that guy whatever it takes, you know. But you know,

520
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 6: Blao was trying to angle for the Kamzat Chimaya fight.

521
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 6: Doesn't get it, and now get Sean Brady, who you

522
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 6: can argue is just as dangerous five or six spots

523
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 6: below him. You know, I don't think Phyz after beating

524
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Speaker 6: a former world champion like this, is gonna fight Mataw's Gamraan,

525
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 6: you know, no matter what the rankings say, I just

526
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 6: don't see it, you know. But thankfully you have guys

527
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Speaker 6: like Balal and Strickland, you know, who are willing to

528
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Speaker 6: take fights and sort of keep you know, the cycle movement.

529
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Speaker 4: Uh, well, you don't think PHYSI will take the fight?

530
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Speaker 6: No, I don't. I don't think you call out somebody

531
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Speaker 6: as high profile as Gaie Chee top eight needle mover

532
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Speaker 6: in the entire company, and then except to fight against Gamrot,

533
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Speaker 6: whom many think lost to Saruka. I agree. I share

534
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Speaker 6: your your enthusiasm. I'm just saying, like, you know, like

535
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Speaker 6: you there are people in Bilaal's inner circle that are like, dude,

536
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 6: why are you fighting a guy five or six spots below.

537
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 4: You know who's who's Bellow's manager?

538
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: Do you know? Yeah?

539
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 6: I mean, but you know, like Cody's saying, Ron, I'm

540
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 6: gonna say.

541
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Speaker 7: You're not getting more money for the He's not getting

542
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 7: more money for the Sure I would, I would bet

543
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 7: my life on it, But I don't know. I just

544
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 7: think they know how to manipulate guys that want to fight,

545
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 7: and they don't give his ship and bellows that guy

546
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 7: he wants to fight, and.

547
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 4: They're gonna use that, you know, to their advantage.

548
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: Well, and you know there's a lot of guys like that,

549
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: you know well.

550
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Speaker 6: And I think beat Sean Brady, I mean, then you

551
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 6: might be able to really try to hold out for

552
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 6: a championship opportunity, you know, I think.

553
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: Where where where is Brady? The only thing I would

554
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: say it'd be impressive because of the wind streak. But

555
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: I don't think people are gonna be like he beat

556
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: Sean Brady, give him a title shot, I think anything else.

557
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: I think Bellall matches up well against Sean Brady than

558
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: he does against Chimayah. Chimaya is a problem, right for

559
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 2: anybody like Ballall likes to take people down. Uh he

560
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: uses a striking to get there. He's not taking down

561
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: chimayav Okay like I love Blaya. That's a really tough

562
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 2: matchup for him. He's gonna have to strike his way

563
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 2: to win against Jamayav I think, and then against Brady.

564
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: I think he does a lot of what Brady does,

565
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 2: maybe even better, you know, uh in some ways, maybe

566
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: not as clean with his submissions as Brady. Brady's much

567
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: a much more dangerous submission threat than Belall is. But

568
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: I think Bellall positionally and wrestling wise, will probably be

569
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: better than Brady, So I think it's a better match

570
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: for him. So momentum wise, consistency wise, I agree with you, John,

571
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: But I don't think Sean, that Sean Brady win is

572
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: going to get fans in the UFC to be clamoring,

573
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: you know, for a title shot for Bulall. Unfortunately.

574
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I I one hundred percent agree with that. And

575
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 7: it looks Bela is the guy that want he's gonna fight.

576
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 7: You know, those are the guys, whether they like him

577
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 7: or they don't like them, they're gonna use them to

578
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 7: their advantage. They're gonna put him with with they'll probably

579
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 7: try to overmatch him because they probably I'm assuming they

580
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 7: don't like him that much, you know what I mean,

581
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 7: because they're not pushing them a lot to you know,

582
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 7: like what you say for a title shot. But yeah,

583
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 7: I don't think the Brady fight's gonna move the needle

584
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 7: because I don't. I think Brady needs a couple of

585
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 7: more high profile fights, you know, to get his name

586
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 7: right up there.

587
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 6: Yeah he's a great but he's not.

588
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: We know who he is, but I bet yeh.

589
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 7: I walk out of my house and I asked the

590
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 7: first twenty MMA fans who he is. I'm not sure

591
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 7: they're gonna say.

592
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 2: Much, you know what I mean?

593
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Now.

594
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 6: And he's from the northeast, right in your backyard.

595
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 2: Not really, but it's not a thing on him. It's

596
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: like he is.

597
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 7: Look, I love guys like that. They're great and you

598
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 7: don't know that even there. Those are the guys I

599
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 7: literally loved. They're not making an asshole out of themselves

600
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 7: eman calling people out.

601
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 2: It's a dangerous fight for him.

602
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 7: The guy's a grinder and he loves to fight, and

603
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 7: he's gonna go in there and fight that. We're just

604
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 7: talking marketing now, we're not talking reality. You know that's right,

605
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 7: I say, even with even with physique, marketing wise, what

606
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 7: a fantastic call out, you know what I mean? Because

607
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 7: whatever Gaischee does really good. This guy is really good

608
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 7: at you know what I mean. They want to trade

609
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 7: league kicks. I'm sure, this guy's eating a thousand league kicks.

610
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 7: He's used to it, you know what I mean.

611
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, and that and that's where like the business

612
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: side of fighting is so crucial, right. It's like, you know,

613
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: Cody's making some great calls. He's saying, you know, like

614
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: you'll get a physique who's gonna call out a Chandler

615
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: or a Ferguson, Guys that are at the end of

616
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: the still can fighters.

617
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 6: Big names, right but kind of near the end of

618
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 6: their career whatever.

619
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: The guys that he's trying to target, which would give

620
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 2: him that jump and that height to get that championship

621
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: fight where Sean Brady great fighter. People in the know

622
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: know who Sean Brady is, but that's a tough out.

623
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 2: But the general fan is a know And then that's why,

624
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: you know, I think Gilbert Burns doing the right thing

625
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: by trying to get a fight with Mazvedal, another guy,

626
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: huge name, one of the biggest names in the UFC,

627
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: guy at the end of the career, at the end

628
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: of his career, where he can you know, get another

629
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: big win and put himself back into.

630
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 6: You know, title contention. Yeah, I thought it's Muhammad would

631
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 6: have made a lot of sense, and also a shout

632
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 6: out to Jack her Manson, by the way, who was

633
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 6: supposed to fight Darren till in a few weeks he's

634
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 6: fighting the unranked Chris Curtis, and I believe her Manson's

635
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 6: probably in the top seven. And we'll have more on

636
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 6: this with Brian Petrie. But Jack Hermanson Ken Flow, by

637
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 6: the way, open to betting favorite against Chris Curtis, and

638
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 6: immediately Chris Curtis went to like minus one fifty at least,

639
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 6: wow where I place my bets. So maybe that's all

640
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 6: big on Brian Petrie's action. I don't know, but it

641
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 6: is interesting when you think about, you know, certain guys

642
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 6: like Dominic Cruz who literally like they're not gonna fight

643
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 6: cheto Vera until he's ranked above him, Like they are

644
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 6: not trying to fight backwards. And I do believe if

645
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 6: you're bloud, it's like, all right, if I beat Vicente

646
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 6: fucking luke A right in a rematch in a main event,

647
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 6: that opens the door for the Covingtons and the Chimayavs

648
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 6: and the Gilbert Burns. And instead he's fighting a guy

649
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 6: five slots ranked below Gilbert Burns. So it tells me, yes,

650
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 6: he wants to keep the momentum going. The best way

651
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 6: to stay relevant with the fan base is to stay

652
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 6: active and to fight. You know, you're telling me, maybe

653
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 6: he didn't get new money for the for the deal.

654
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 6: Sean Brady is undefeated, But you're right. It's the avid

655
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 6: fans who really see the upside of it right.

656
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: Right right now, without a doubt.

657
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 7: And I think it comes a point where it's always

658
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 7: easier to fight up than fight behind you.

659
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: And I think that's where Phyziva is.

660
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 7: I think there's probably five fights behind him that would

661
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 7: be way worse for him than taking somebody. These you know,

662
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 7: these guys build up their name, but then all of

663
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 7: a sudden at thirty eight thirty seven, you know, it's

664
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Speaker 7: a it's a.

665
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: Different ballgame, you know.

666
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 7: So what he did is genius for that, you know,

667
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 7: blal if he was smart, he would have had in

668
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 7: his contract if he beat Luk A that he's guaranteed

669
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 7: of with a B, A C. But that doesn't it

670
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 7: doesn't work like that, you know, And you get a

671
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 7: lot of you get a lot of pushback from the promoters,

672
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 7: you really do they they you know, just go back

673
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 7: to remember Brendan Shap did that thing on Joe Silva.

674
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 7: Way the guy says, you want to listen to what

675
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 7: he has to say about you? Put him on like

676
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 7: the another line, the guy just pissed on him, you

677
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 7: know what I mean? So you know they either like

678
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 7: you they don't like you.

679
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, don't talk about my friend Joe Silva that way. Okay, guys,

680
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 6: I love shop as well.

681
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead.

682
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 6: Oh, we got another UFC Hall of Famer, Mark Ratner

683
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 6: coming up at about sixty seconds and say hi to them. No,

684
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 6: I'm gonna let you say hello. But I just had

685
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 6: one more thing that I wanted to ask you both.

686
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 6: So Alexander Volkanowski broke his thumb and in all likelihood

687
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 6: he'll be out till December, right, which would be the

688
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 6: time for his next title defense.

689
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: Right.

690
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 6: We have a huge main event coming up in six

691
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 6: days between Yar Rodriguez and Brian Ortega. Brian or Tega

692
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 6: twice his challenge for the undisputed UFC Featherweight Championship. Yahia

693
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 6: Rodriguez hasn't competed very often, but he's never challenged for

694
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 6: the belt. So if Yaya Rodriguez wins, perhaps he's the guy.

695
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 6: Maybe Josh Ammata in his late thirties is the guy.

696
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 6: But Ken Flaw, I'll start with you on this. I

697
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 6: would submit to you one thug nasty Bryce Mitchell, who

698
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 6: wrote on social media and by the way, has the

699
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 6: requisite winning streak to get a championship opportunity as far

700
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 6: as I'm concerned, and respect to Arnold Allen as well

701
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 6: in this mix, but thug nasty sort of and a

702
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 6: paraphrasing said, you know a lot of these other guys

703
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 6: maybe aren't calling out both because they don't think they

704
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 6: have the chops to beat him. You know, Bryce really

705
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 6: thinks he has the style and the tenacity and the

706
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 6: tools to beat Volkanovsky. So I've been thinking a lot

707
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 6: about Volkanovsky since his his dominance of Max Holloway. I

708
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 6: just before we get to Mark, I wanted to get

709
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 6: your thoughts can flow on on Bryce Mitchell as viable

710
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 6: featherweight challenger right now for Volcanovsk.

711
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: I think he's one fight away from that. I think

712
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: if you're gonna beat someone like a Volcano, I think

713
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: Bryce does have the grappling skills to challenge him in

714
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: a lot of different areas there on the ground. But

715
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: I would like to see his striking sharpen up a

716
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: little bit more. Volkanovski show that he has, you know,

717
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: now a world class striking for sure. You do that

718
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: to a Max Holloway, you're doing something right. He just

719
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: looked really clean and sharp and more sophisticated than a

720
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: lot of strikers out there. Man grat he was doing

721
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: his kind of next level stuff. So I love Bryce Mitchell,

722
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: I love his attitude, but I think I'd like to

723
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: see at least one more fight and and some sharpening

724
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: of his striking skills.

725
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: First yeah, I gotta tell you.

726
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 7: First off, I didn't get a chance to see you

727
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 7: guys last week, but Volkanowski hit another level. To me,

728
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 7: that was a phenomenal performance against a guy that's been

729
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 7: really doping really good.

730
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: I thought Max was going to give him way more.

731
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 7: Problems in that fight, and I couldn't have been more

732
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 7: wrong Vulkanowski.

733
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 4: And again, he didn't play it safe.

734
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: He went for it.

735
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 4: He was He's a problem, you know.

736
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 7: So the Bryce Mitchell thing is, Man, I love Bryce Mitchell,

737
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 7: you know, and I you know, i'd like to look

738
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 7: you got to get you got to start changing up

739
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 7: the fights and giving guys that haven't fought yet a

740
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 7: chance to fight, So I would say, I would say,

741
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 7: I don't even know if one fight would help him.

742
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 4: Kenny.

743
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 7: With the way Volkanowski looked, I mean he was, he

744
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 7: was shocked. The way he's been performing lately is on

745
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 7: another level. And he looks healthy and he looks he

746
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 7: just looks dynamite.

747
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 4: Man.

748
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 7: That was a fantastic performance. Like I can't say enough

749
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 7: about just man. His combos were crisp, they were fast.

750
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 7: He was the way he could hit and exit without

751
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 7: getting hit, and he made beautiful you know when you

752
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 7: look at like the levels of even what Holloway did

753
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 7: to Calvin cater and then what he did to Holland

754
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 7: this is crazy. I mean that and cater I love,

755
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 7: you know, and I almost always used to think Catera

756
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 7: would have been a better matchup for Volkanowski.

757
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 4: I don't even know now this guy is just he was.

758
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: He was on fire.

759
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 7: You know, he's maybe Calvin cater against Bryce Mitchell and

760
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 7: the winner maybe get something.

761
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 6: That's a good one. I'm just telling you. For me

762
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 6: as fan and commentator, the intrigue for me even right now,

763
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 6: and Bolkanovski probably a four to one favorite against Bryce Mitchell,

764
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 6: but locked the door behind those two getting ready to

765
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 6: call that fight. I'd be very curious to see how

766
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 6: that would play out. All right, now, I want to

767
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 6: welcome in one of my dearest friends. This bends in

768
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 6: a lot of Hall of fames. Hall of Famer, International

769
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 6: Boxing Hall of Famer, just to name two of them.

770
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 6: Many of you know him of courts as the USC's

771
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 6: VP of Regulatory Affairs. The Great Mark Ratner is with

772
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 6: us after a very busy Saturday in Vegas. My man,

773
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 6: you see Kenny Floridan and Ray Longo. Good morning, sir,

774
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 6: how are we doing?

775
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 9: Good morning, Hi, Ray, I can't flow. I'm delighted to

776
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 9: be with you guys. And it was a good fun

777
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 9: saturday yesterday two NBA games, in our our APEX fight,

778
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 9: so it was a good day.

779
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 6: Do you see How do you see how tan Ray

780
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 6: Longo is?

781
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: Mark?

782
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, we see him.

783
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: He's that tim Uh.

784
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 7: But Mark, I want to say congratulations. You've always been

785
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 7: a gentleman. I followed you when you were, you know,

786
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 7: the Commissioner of Boxing. You did an outstanding job as

787
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 7: you did when the UFC was a What a beautiful

788
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 7: fine that was for them. You were really instrumental in

789
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 7: getting them going. So you've had a great career and

790
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 7: nobody deserves being in the Hall of Fame more than you.

791
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 7: And just congratulations man on everything.

792
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 9: Thanks man. I'm glad you have to see you guys,

793
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 9: and I hope to see you soon.

794
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 6: All right, right, We're gonna let you get on out

795
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 6: of here unless you have a parting shot because I'm

796
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 6: gonna hit Mark Rattner very hard today. I'm actually not

797
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 6: gonna hit them hard.

798
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: Don't do them, Mark Ratton, what's the matter?

799
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 7: Show some respect that he's a Hall of Famer, Kenny,

800
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 7: can you give this guy some manners?

801
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: Please listen.

802
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 7: Shout out to Jake Show him and his team have

803
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 7: been at the gym preparing for his fight. What a

804
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 7: bunch of great guys all the way from Wales to

805
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 7: come in and you know, I just I love seeing that.

806
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 4: Man.

807
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 7: I've been treated so good all across the world. Wherever

808
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 7: we go, we always have a gym to train. I

809
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 7: love opening up my gym to guys that come from

810
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 7: far away because I know how crazy that could be

811
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 7: and stressful to find a place. So shout out to

812
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 7: those guys. I wish him the best of luck on Saturday.

813
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 7: They just seem like salt to the earth people and

814
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 7: what the kid looks fantastic. Whatever IVE seen in the

815
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 7: gym unbelievable. So just a great bunch of guys. I

816
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 7: want to say a load to them because I love

817
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 7: meeting new people, especially when it's you know, not you know,

818
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 7: ten minutes away.

819
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 6: So yeah, no, that's exciting. We're going to get to

820
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 6: Jack Shore later in the main event challenge. But don't

821
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 6: forget to pick up that Sunday New York Post ray

822
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 6: and I'll see it in a few days. My man.

823
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm definitely picking that up.

824
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 7: I'm justidding, and I'm just gonna look for my name

825
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 7: and if i don't see it, I'm not even gonna

826
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 7: read it.

827
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: I'll talk to you guys. Take it it.

828
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 7: Congrats John and Mark. Congrats again, buddy. Nobody serves them

829
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 7: more than you.

830
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: Ken Flow, I'm out of here.

831
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 6: Take it are the Ray Long go Mitte every week

832
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 6: here on the anak Implorian Podcast, and now we go

833
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 6: three wide and put Mark Ratner there in the center.

834
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 6: Of course, many of you know him as the USC's

835
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 6: VP of Regulatory Affairs, and he's got a new book out.

836
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 6: It's right here. It's called Ringside, My Life Outside the

837
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 6: Ropes and the Octagon. What a legend. I've been going

838
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 6: through this all morning, my man, I don't even know

839
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 6: where to begin, but before I get into the book,

840
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 6: So you had NBA Summer League duties yesterday and then

841
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 6: you rifle over to the UFC Apex. So what can

842
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 6: you tell us about about your day and all that

843
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 6: you were able to ingest yesterday there in Nevada?

844
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 9: I think most importantly, I went to watch my grandkids

845
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 9: play eight and under hoops. That was to start with it,

846
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 9: about nine o'clock yesterday morning. Then I went over to

847
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 9: the Thomas and Mac. I did have the season that

848
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 9: Miami Heat, so that was fun, and Boston got beat

849
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 9: I think by nine or ten. Really hard to see

850
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 9: what kind of teams these are because they're playing so

851
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 9: many guys and a lot of people you'll never see again.

852
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 9: But I did see Poncero play the night before, and

853
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 9: he's the real thing.

854
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, sound. I actually did bet on the Summer League

855
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 6: for the first time yesterday, knowing that you were going

856
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 6: to be there. And again, these are just handicappers sending plays, right,

857
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 6: It's not me handicapping the board and we went two

858
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 6: and one, so we were in the blacks, so historically speaking,

859
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 6: just to sort of get this out of the way

860
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 6: and for my own personal curiosity having gone through the

861
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 6: book a little bit. And by the way, Ringside is

862
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 6: available at UFC store dot com, also on Amazon and

863
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 6: really wherever you get your books. Ringside My Life Outside

864
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 6: the Ropes and the Octagon. You joined the Nevada State

865
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 6: Athletic Commission in nineteen eighty five, became executive director in

866
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety two, nineteen ninety two, and then you joined

867
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 6: the UFC in two thousand and six. So I guess

868
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 6: I'm just curious. In two thousand and six, obviously, in

869
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 6: hindsight you made a great decision. I'd imagine your wife agrees.

870
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 6: What was your thought process at that stage of your

871
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 6: life professionally speaking, to leave the friendly confined so to speak,

872
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 6: of the commission world and join the UFC at that time?

873
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 9: Well, Lorenzo at one time was a commissioner further in

874
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 9: the bad Athletic Commission, and in late two thousand and

875
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 9: five he came to me and said, have you ever

876
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 9: thought about leaving the Commission? I said, no, I've got

877
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 9: the best regulatory job in the world, and he said, well,

878
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 9: we'll talked early two thousand and six, and quite simply,

879
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 9: Lorenzo is a great salesman, but he brought him the closer, Dana,

880
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 9: and it was that simple. And I told him I

881
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 9: couldn't come till after a De la Joie fight, I

882
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 9: think it was Sinco de Mayo in two thousand and six.

883
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 9: The next Monday after that fight, I came over and

884
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 9: I still love to go to boxing, but I never

885
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 9: looked back. It was the second best decision. First best

886
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 9: decision obviously getting married, but the second one was coming

887
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 9: of the USC.

888
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 6: So when I left ESPN in twenty eleven, there were

889
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 6: a lot of people in my life who suggested, hey, man,

890
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 6: you know it took you forever to get to Bristol, Connecticut.

891
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 6: You're finally there, and now you're going to go do

892
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 6: this mixed martial arts thing. You know, you've never punched

893
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 6: a heavy bag in your life. You don't know anything

894
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 6: about that sport, and certainly you know you can argue

895
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 6: both sides of my coin, I guess, but have you

896
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 6: ever had a conversation with you It's like, hey, honey,

897
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 6: I think I think we made the right decision, right.

898
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's reflectively after you're inducted into

899
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame or after you get MMA regulation

900
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 6: done in New York. But was there ever a conversation

901
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 6: with your family about that decision and sort of the

902
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 6: quality of the decision you made at that time, not

903
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 6: knowing exactly what you were walking into.

904
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 9: Well, the first thing is with Lorenzo and Dana, and

905
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 9: we never talked about anything but America. We didn't talk

906
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 9: about the world. So I have no idea what the

907
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 9: job would entail except going to different states trying to

908
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 9: get the sport approved and obviously and New York was

909
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 9: the cherry on top and it took us eight years.

910
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 9: But no, my wife she supported it. She just the

911
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 9: only thing she really told me when I left, you

912
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 9: said you have to get a contract for at least

913
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 9: three years because you're leaving a good job.

914
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that was that was it. That's good. Mark

915
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 6: Ratner with us here on the anac Implorian podcast. So

916
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 6: twenty years ago, I'm getting started in sports radio, probably

917
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 6: around the time we used to have the great Mark

918
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 6: Ratner on the Mouthpiece Boxing show. He would always come

919
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 6: on with little peons like us. You know, I gotta say,

920
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 6: but my grandfather said to me, probably I don't know

921
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 6: two thousand and two, that if you take five minutes

922
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 6: every day to write down a couple of sentences about

923
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 6: your day, in fifteen or twenty years, you'll have a memoir.

924
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 6: And really wish I had done that, because my memory

925
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 6: isn't great. Your memory's pretty good. How was the process

926
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 6: for you in terms of jogging your own memory when

927
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 6: you went back to write this book?

928
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 9: The key was having a writer helped me a ghost writer,

929
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 9: and we would talk probably about two hours a week

930
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 9: for five to six months, and every time you'd ask

931
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 9: a question, it would remind me of something else. And

932
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 9: so what would happen is I would think of other things,

933
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 9: and then he would send me a chapter and I

934
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 9: would edit it and make a couple of changes. And

935
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 9: I don't think I could ever just sit by a

936
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 9: computer and write things down. So it turned out. I

937
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 9: wasn't sure how it would turn out, but I'm very

938
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 9: happy with it, and I wrote it more for my

939
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 9: family and my friends. I'm not trying to be a

940
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 9: bestseller or anything else. That's all I wanted to do,

941
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 9: and it came out to it.

942
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: Oh, Mark, You've been like probably one of the biggest

943
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: sports fans that I've ever met. I mean, John is

944
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: one of the biggest sports fans I've ever met. You

945
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: made him look like a nube. You've been involved as

946
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: an executive director. You know, you've refereed a bunch of

947
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: college games and things like that. Is there a top

948
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 2: three for you as far as events that you've been

949
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: a part of that were most memorable. I know it's

950
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: kind of a difficult question because I know you've been

951
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: around so many different sports and events.

952
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 9: But well, the highlight of my officiating career was working

953
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 9: the game at Notre Dame to walk on that field

954
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 9: have the repericon dance around me. I watched Rudy a

955
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 9: couple of days beforehand and I touched the sign to say,

956
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 9: probably like a champion of the day. And Charlie Weis

957
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 9: yell at me for three hours in football in Boston.

958
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 9: The two most memorable things obviously with a bike fight

959
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 9: and the most crazy thing ever still was a fan

960
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 9: man flying into the ring with a propeller And there's

961
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 9: nothing in the rule book that says what do you

962
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 9: do now when a guy flies into the work in

963
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 9: my most Memorable moments.

964
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 6: Ken Full played soccer at Boston College. But I know

965
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 6: he doesn't have the venom or the hate for Notre

966
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 6: Dame that I do as a BC.

967
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: That's cool, Mark, I what you mentioned Tyson real quick?

968
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: There there's some good Mike Tyson stuff in the book.

969
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: Is there a story or or I don't know, some

970
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: kind of tidbit history that you can kind of talk

971
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: about that was most memorable for memorable for you.

972
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 9: One day I was driving my kids to school and

973
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 9: I saw this guy jogging by, and he knew me

974
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 9: from the Commission, and he stopped and just was Tyson

975
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 9: jogging by himself, and he said, and he has a

976
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 9: little bit of a list, and he said, I'm mister

977
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 9: Ratner and instead a load of the kids considering everything,

978
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 9: and I was the face of the Commission. He's always

979
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 9: been very nice to me, didn't hold anything against me.

980
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 9: I'm the one who had to say you've got to

981
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 9: give us three million dollars of your purse and just

982
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 9: a just a crazy time. But whenever I see him now,

983
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 9: when he walks into a fight, he's still the most

984
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,799
Speaker 9: popular guy there. It's amazing. He is just right now.

985
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 9: I'd say he's in the top of his career as

986
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 9: a as an entertainer, as a writer, as a stand

987
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 9: up comedian. I'm happy where he is in his life.

988
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, and seems like the cannabis he gets is a

989
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 6: lot better than this stuff they have down here in

990
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 6: South Florida. I don't know.

991
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 9: I think that there's probably some truth to it. I

992
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 9: think he's he's in the market for it. I think

993
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 9: he's in the.

994
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 4: Business of it.

995
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, he is, so, Mark. Perhaps most interesting for me

996
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 6: is some of the stuff on the MMA legalization in

997
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 6: the book, and just the tremendous lengths that you and

998
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 6: Laurence Epstein and everybody else went to to get mixed

999
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 6: martial arts regulated statewide across the US. So the momentum

1000
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 6: from one state to the next, right, I'd imagine, and

1001
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 6: you touch on this in the book, but when you know,

1002
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 6: you get a certain state done, to be able to

1003
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 6: be bullied by that, to go to the next state

1004
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 6: and say, hey, you know, just next door, we got

1005
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 6: this done, I'd imagine that gave you a tremendous leg

1006
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 6: to stand on as you you know, knocked one state

1007
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 6: off after the next.

1008
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, especially from the economics. We're saying to Pennsylvania, you

1009
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 9: know this, this state right next to you is doing it.

1010
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 9: Your people are going over the border to New Jersey

1011
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 9: or something. Right, You're losing money here right. Well, that

1012
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 9: was one of the process. And I always want to

1013
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 9: give credit to Mike Mersh, who was our great friend

1014
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 9: who I needed a lawyer with me wherever we went.

1015
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 9: I could talk to the regulators, but to have the

1016
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 9: lawyer talk to the attorney generals and the different people

1017
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 9: was a big key and he was very special for me.

1018
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I remember you. Me and mrsh used to

1019
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 6: travel a lot together when I lived in Las Vegas

1020
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 6: several years ago. So what are your emotions like on

1021
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 6: fight night compared to say, twenty or thirty years ago?

1022
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 6: And I asked that, you know, Mark always comes over

1023
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 6: to the broadcast booth and gives me the handshake or

1024
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 6: the fist bump and helps give me confidence. And obviously

1025
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 6: I have my own emotions on fight night, trying to

1026
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 6: get my head around the next eight hours or so.

1027
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 6: But for you, what is it like, you know, walking

1028
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 6: into T Mobile Arena for UFC two seventy compared to

1029
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 6: you know, the fight fight way back in the desk.

1030
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 9: No, it's a lot different because I was worried about

1031
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 9: so many for boxing, so many different fact facets of it.

1032
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 9: To make sure the ropes were good in the in

1033
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 9: the ring, make sure that all the inspectors are ready,

1034
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 9: and uh so I had a little checklist. Now when

1035
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 9: I come to the fights, the most important part would

1036
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 9: be the check in with the with zach our producer,

1037
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 9: directors and just in case I need to talk to them.

1038
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 9: But uh, there's always a feeling excitement. I like the

1039
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 9: way the crowd grows as the fight progress, and uh,

1040
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 9: there's a different energy in MMA then boxing. The crowd's

1041
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 9: younger obviously, and the music it's like a rock and

1042
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 9: roll concert with fights in between. Four yes, and then

1043
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 9: when you get to the main event, it's it's just

1044
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 9: a very exciting and I think the energy is really

1045
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 9: what gets to me.

1046
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, do you have any of these internationals on your

1047
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 6: docket coming up? Or you going to London in Paris or.

1048
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 9: Now I'll go to New York next week in London

1049
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 9: after that and I'm planning on Paris.

1050
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 4: Yes.

1051
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 6: Wow, a couple more minutes here with the great Mark

1052
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 6: Ratner again, you can get the new book Ringside My

1053
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 6: Life Outside the Ropes and thee Octagon at Amazon dot

1054
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 6: Com right now. Born in Phoenix, Arizona. And this is

1055
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 6: just a selfish question, but raised in Las Vegas, you

1056
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 6: went to Reno. Do you have any rooting interest for

1057
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 6: the Phoenix Arizona sports teams whatsoever?

1058
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 9: None? Whatsoever. I was born there, but we left, I

1059
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 9: think when I was maybe four or five years old,

1060
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 9: moved to southern California. And my fandom has sort of changed.

1061
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 9: I was a big Dodger fan. I'm not quite as

1062
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 9: big a fan. I don't know all the players like

1063
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 9: I once did. I became a Red Sox fan because

1064
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 9: I really was never a Yankee fan, and by going

1065
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 9: to Boston walking around there made me a sort of

1066
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 9: a Boston fan.

1067
00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 2: Got up joh.

1068
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 9: Uh. Having our employee Sean being a relative of Brady's

1069
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 9: and maybe it maybe it even smart special sure, but

1070
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 9: I do like all sports. I just was watching Wimbledon

1071
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 9: before we came on here, so yeah, it's a It's

1072
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 9: a great time to be a sports fan.

1073
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 6: Oh and I love those few minutes with you before

1074
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 6: you have the event, and candidly, more often than not,

1075
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 6: you know, Mark and I are probably talking about the

1076
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 6: Belmont Steaks that is just about to you know, start

1077
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 6: or something relatable in the uh in the sports world.

1078
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 6: But uh, well, I congratulate you on the new book,

1079
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 6: and uh you've been a dear friend and comrade for

1080
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 6: me on the road for for many years. And uh again,

1081
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 6: wish you nothing but the best with this project. And uh,

1082
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 6: you know, I hope you're I hope you're by my

1083
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 6: side for twenty years to come by. Man, you know,

1084
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 6: it's crazy as a sports fan for me as I

1085
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 6: get older, like I I have a soft spot for

1086
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 6: the New York Jets, like the Toronto Maple Leafs. I

1087
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 6: used to hate that team as a kid, and now

1088
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 6: I those fan bases are so starved. Like if you

1089
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 6: could one team mark to win a championship next, Like,

1090
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 6: do you have enough of a rooting interest for one

1091
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 6: team in sports? Like for me, no doubt about it,

1092
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 6: it would be the Boston Celtics because they just came

1093
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 6: so close. Like do you have one team that you

1094
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 6: would root for like to win a title next?

1095
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,399
Speaker 9: Well, I was a good Cub fan. I was really

1096
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 9: happy when they finally got to be good. When it

1097
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 9: comes to the NBA, I was actually hoping that the

1098
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 9: Nets would be a real team with the three superstars

1099
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 9: and would they play fourteen games together in three years

1100
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 9: or something?

1101
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 2: So that.

1102
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 9: I think the league's better. The NBA is better when

1103
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 9: the Knicks and the Lakers are strong and makes it

1104
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 9: more of a better time. But all these small market teams.

1105
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 9: I want to see what happened in New Orleans with Zion.

1106
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 9: Maybe they'll finally get some guys around him and they'll

1107
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 9: do good. So the NBA is just it's exploding right now.

1108
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 6: No, they You're right, the NBA's on fire, the Memphis Grizzlies.

1109
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 6: I don't have a soft spot for the New York

1110
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 6: Knicks yet. I don't know if that will ever materialize.

1111
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 6: You know, I think the Knicks and the Yankees are

1112
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 6: on an island by themselves. But uh, he is the

1113
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 6: UFC Hall of Famer, International Boxing Hall of Famer Mark Ratner,

1114
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 6: And again the book is ring side my life outside

1115
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 6: of the ropes and the Octor. God appreciate you getting

1116
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 6: up for us today, and uh, I look forward to

1117
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 6: seeing you on Long Island here in a few days.

1118
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,399
Speaker 9: I see you student came flow, didn't didn't you fight once?

1119
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 9: Seventy or something.

1120
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 2: And forty five. Yeah, I'm a little bigger than the

1121
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 2: last time you saw me. Mark.

1122
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 9: No, you're you're amazing and I thank you both of

1123
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 9: you and uh and Ray two and that's thanks for

1124
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 9: having me.

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00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: On and the time.

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00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 6: Great to see you.

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00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 6: He is in the UFC it's VP of Regulatory Affairs,

1129
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 6: Mark Ratner with us on the anak Implorian Podcast. Absolutely

1130
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 6: love that guy. You know, drop a cannabis like he

1131
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 6: don't miss a beat, you know, just amendous individual and uh,

1132
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 6: you know, I have to say, Kenny, you know, there

1133
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 6: was a time in my career where I was hosting

1134
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 6: the Mouthpiece Boxing show and we might have had one

1135
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 6: hundred listeners, you know, and so when certain guys you know,

1136
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 6: Michael Buffer, Joe Tessitour, Max Kellerman would come over, you know,

1137
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 6: they didn't necessarily want to give us the time of day.

1138
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 6: You know, could barely look us in the eyes when

1139
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 6: we were interviewing them. But you could always count on Ratner,

1140
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 6: you know, the real fucking article from day one.

1141
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 2: Dude, absolutely, I mean, he has overseen some of the

1142
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: biggest fights in history and from the moment I met

1143
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 2: him as the as the executive director of the NSAC

1144
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: to when he got, you know, the big job over

1145
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: the UFC. He has been exactly the same, always humble,

1146
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 2: always a gentleman, always a passionate sports fan. Love that guy.

1147
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 6: One thing I didn't get to he brought up the

1148
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 6: Greg Hardy in Hailer situation in his book, and you

1149
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 6: know the illegality of it. I still don't think we

1150
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 6: have total clarity on when you can use and inn hailer, right, like,

1151
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 6: can you use it on the bus ride over to

1152
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 6: the live event? Can you use it in the locker room?

1153
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 6: Seems like you can't use it in between rounds? All right,

1154
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 6: Before we get to the pronunciation of the week, I

1155
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 6: just wanted to put a bow on UFC fight night

1156
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 6: dosan jos versus physibe. Very happy for Chase Sherman, you know,

1157
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 6: to to get a bonus, right, to get a win.

1158
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 6: I believe his last fight against Alexander Romanov, he was

1159
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 6: the biggest betting underdog in UFC history. And he's just

1160
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 6: been through a lot, you know, you know, some issues

1161
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 6: after surgeries with getting like a bad drug in his

1162
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 6: siste Like, he's just been through a lot. So I'm

1163
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 6: very happy for Chase. I know you're happy for Paras

1164
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 6: the Hobby's younger brother, Aman who got to win over

1165
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 6: Rickey Forcios in a fight that wasn't necessarily great. And

1166
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,240
Speaker 6: then fight of the night Jamie Malarkey and Michael Johnson.

1167
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 6: You know, I think for a lot of people, this

1168
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 6: is a great lesson and why maybe you should bet

1169
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 6: on baseball and not mixed martial arts because Michael Johnson

1170
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 6: was plus two thirty or so and you got dudes

1171
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 6: walking to the window to cash those tickets and it

1172
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 6: goes to Jamie Malarkey.

1173
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: I know, listen, Malarkey fought his ass off, right, and

1174
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 2: this is not a knock on him, but I thought,

1175
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 2: if you're again, if you're scoring fights the way that

1176
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 2: we've been talking about for the last several weeks, when

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00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 2: we had Sean chain On and all that, Michael Johnson,

1178
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: I thought.

1179
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 6: She should have won that fight.

1180
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: It was it was two to one, he won the

1181
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: first round in the third round in my opinion, and

1182
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people felt the same way,

1183
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: except for those judges. I also think if we go

1184
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: back to the Chase, Sherman and Vandera fight, Yes, those

1185
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: guys had Sherman winning that fight. Sure, they had Sherman

1186
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: winning that fight, whereas I thought Vandera was winning those

1187
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 2: first two rounds. I thought Sherman needed that knockout to win,

1188
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: which made it all the more dramatic and impressive. But yeah, man,

1189
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: we again. I think it goes to show you that

1190
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: really the judges just need to be better at that job,

1191
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: at their jobs. I don't think there's a scoring criteria

1192
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 2: that is going to fix all of those issues, but

1193
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it left myself and a

1194
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: lot of fans I think, still confused about how to

1195
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: score fight so whatever.

1196
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 6: And certainly I have been defensive of the judges at times.

1197
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 6: I think by and large it has not been a

1198
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 6: great run for those with UH with scorecards that matter

1199
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 6: all right, if we missed anything at Anti Florian Pod.

1200
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 6: But in the nature of spinning it forward, we got

1201
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 6: a big one coming up this weekend. UBS Arena, Long Island,

1202
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 6: New York. UFC Fight Night Ortega versus Rodriguez, Prelims eleven

1203
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 6: am Eastern on ESPN, Saturday, Main card on ABC. It

1204
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 6: is time for the pronunciation of the week, as we

1205
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 6: call on Cody Merrow, what's up? Cod back.

1206
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 8: I'm back.

1207
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 6: You look I buried last week.

1208
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 8: I just got the dirt off of me after you

1209
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 8: guys buried me in a coffin, after last week.

1210
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 6: After last week's pronunciation of the week, or just in general. Okay, yeah, yeah, I.

1211
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 8: Mean we're New England. It's like we like the bus balls.

1212
00:56:55,480 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 8: But there I was six feet unders. It's ip that

1213
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 8: nobody clips that as a terrible visual for me.

1214
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 6: I looked away. Uh so, yeah, I mean you're several

1215
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 6: several below five hundred, so uh hopefully this isn't a repeat.

1216
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 6: Was this a repeat?

1217
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 9: Or no?

1218
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1219
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 6: All right, So this man is a ranked flyweight. He

1220
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 6: competes on the main card against Matt Schnell this Saturday afternoon.

1221
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 6: You can see it on the American Broadcasting Company. Uh

1222
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 6: Cody Merrow, of whom am I speaking brother the main cad.

1223
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 8: From a place that calls itself New York City but

1224
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 8: is not New York City. Let me just stake my

1225
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 8: clan there. If you're in Manhattan, you're not in the city.

1226
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 8: That's all I want to say.

1227
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 2: Okay, but.

1228
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 6: That sounded good, Sue mu Dargy. Let's hear, let's hear.

1229
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: Him to shun Sue Mudgee song to shung ying.

1230
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, so Sue Mu, he's a Sue Mu Dargy. Yeah. Yeah,

1231
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 6: it's hard, you know, I think.

1232
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: So I said, okay, all right with the finish.

1233
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 3: Wow me in there.

1234
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 8: It would be John Anick the other guy and then

1235
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 8: me and then that the commentary.

1236
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 2: So just calm me.

1237
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 6: In a short note, I'm ready. I thought that was

1238
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 6: a pretty good, uh, pretty good fight. And me to

1239
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 6: you that John Dargy is the pronunciation of the week.

1240
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 6: And then I have a special treat for Ken Flow Cody.

1241
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 6: Stay stay there for a second. So this is one

1242
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 6: of my favorite audio files that we have the guy

1243
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 6: who's fighting Brian Ortega in the main event. I just

1244
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 6: want you to hear Yay Year Rodriguez, in all his

1245
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 6: fucking glory say his name. I can listen to this

1246
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 6: file all day. Just listen to uh say ya Year

1247
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 6: l Pantata say say his name for the masts.

1248
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 8: Well, part of me thinks you do John, like do

1249
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 8: you go for runs? And Heidi sends you like a

1250
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 8: one hour loop of.

1251
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 6: Like that actually would be a good suggestion at Bruce Buffer. No,

1252
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 6: I'm just kidding, but I do believe that. Uh, just

1253
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 6: listen to the pronunciations over and over and over again.

1254
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 9: You know.

1255
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 8: Well, let's listen to this one.

1256
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, here, yeah here, hell Pantera.

1257
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 2: No one rolls like I can't. That's nice rolling yours.

1258
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 6: It's incredible, Cody h thanks, thanks for your contra.

1259
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: That's about you, guys.

1260
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, backwards, great flavor. Well we'll see on the back

1261
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 6: end of the program for the marrow seconds. But now

1262
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 6: we are going to spin it forward. And I know

1263
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 6: perhaps Ken Flow was a little bit surprised that he

1264
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 6: would be charged with making seven predictions for UFC Fight

1265
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 6: Night or take Up Versus Rodriguez. Let us get your

1266
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 6: main event challenge.

1267
00:59:55,240 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 5: It's the main event challenge Fish everything possible to win.

1268
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge to John and Kenny Florian.

1269
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 6: Podcast every week challenge from They Take podcast, Yes, of course,

1270
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 6: from the podcast. Brian the m m A on Twitter,

1271
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 6: Ryan Petrio is with us PPTE. What's up man, Hey,

1272
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 6: what's up?

1273
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 5: Taking some lump last night? Took some lumps, took some

1274
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 5: big old l's Michael Johnson. I I was I was

1275
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 5: catching my fucking ticket. I couldn't believe it. I was

1276
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 5: texting my guys like, we got this one.

1277
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't a horrible it wasn't a horrible decision, but

1278
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: it was a bad one, you know what I mean.

1279
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 6: It was like, that's pretty clear.

1280
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 5: Like I entertained the masses on Twitter. I got a

1281
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 5: lot of people were like, what do you mean? I

1282
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 5: had it from Malarkey. He dropped them around one. I

1283
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 5: was like, hey, Malarkey got dropped too. Clear that the

1284
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 5: last thing they see is what they attribute. I said,

1285
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 5: they both got dropped, canceled out Michael Johnson, I was

1286
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 5: struck them. Second round, I'm clearly Malarkey. Third round, Michael

1287
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 5: Johnson got like a second win, start using his right

1288
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 5: hand more putting punches in front of it instead of

1289
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 5: loading up on his left. I thought I was clear his.

1290
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 6: Day one three clear two one.

1291
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and uh, like I said, I was. That

1292
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 5: was my big bet of the weekend. And then I

1293
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 5: had RDA and then my sliineball lost and yeah, we

1294
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 5: were taking some lungs, but we're gonna battle back here.

1295
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 5: I like some dogs.

1296
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 6: I got my dog my dog goggles on.

1297
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,479
Speaker 5: I like some dogs this week, so we'll see.

1298
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 6: So my brother called me and asked me, uh, what

1299
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 6: I would take in the main event since I wasn't

1300
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 6: calling the fight. I said, I, you know, phy Z

1301
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 6: plus one fifty by knockout, but that didn't look like

1302
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 6: a great ticket at that. You know, I just I'm

1303
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 6: really thankful I'm contractually prevented from betting on the sport.

1304
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 6: You know, I got smoked betting baseball yesterday. I lost

1305
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 6: two hundred and ninety five dollars. But you know, you know,

1306
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 6: I man, this stuff was game.

1307
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 2: It's the game.

1308
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 6: But when you play, Like for me, if I was

1309
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 6: able to bet at I bet Michael Johnson plus two

1310
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 6: thirty whatever. I don't know, was it a little bit

1311
01:01:59,600 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 6: less than that?

1312
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 5: You know, I got my plus two hundred on the screws.

1313
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1314
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 6: Like to me, you rip up enough of those tickets,

1315
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 6: you find something else to bet on. You know, Well,

1316
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 6: that's what it is.

1317
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: That I was arguing with the guy and it wasn't

1318
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 5: getting contentious, and I said, buddy, this is what the

1319
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 5: best thing about MMA is is it's a lot of

1320
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 5: it's so subjective that it creates these arguments, these disagreements,

1321
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 5: which is part of the fun. Like, I'm not taking

1322
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 5: this seriously. Yeah, I was pissed off. Because I put

1323
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 5: a couple of unis two to one and I'm count

1324
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 5: my money.

1325
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 2: But it is what it is.

1326
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 5: It's a game we play. I mean, I'm gonna bounce back.

1327
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 6: We're gonna be all right. All right, Well, let us

1328
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 6: rifle through some of these selections because this is a

1329
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 6: very deep card coming up on Long Island. You know,

1330
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 6: I had a hard time eliminating fights. Right, We're not

1331
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 6: picking the featured prelim between Poona Hele Soriano and Dalsha

1332
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 6: long Giambula, right, but we do have seven picks, and

1333
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 6: we are going to pick one prelim because it is

1334
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 6: a huge prelim and the bandam weeight division live on ESPN.

1335
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 6: This fight will probably be around one pm. Eastern Bantamweight Division,

1336
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 6: fourteenth ranked Jack shore minus one taking on number eleven

1337
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 6: Ricky Simone, who is plus one forty five sure out

1338
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 6: of whales. As you just heard from Ray Longo, those

1339
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 6: guys have been cross training a little bit there at

1340
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 6: Longo Wideman MMA. Jack Shawan defeated sixteen to no Ricky

1341
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 6: Simone seven and two in the UFC and far and

1342
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 6: away Brian Short's toughest test to date. How do you handicap,

1343
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 6: this one at one hundred and thirty five pounds.

1344
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 5: I gotta be honest you, this is this is a

1345
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 5: pass for me as a betting. This is as close

1346
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 5: as it gets. Listen, if you're a valuaboy, lean on Simone,

1347
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 5: don't call him Simon at Simone. Trust me. I've ran

1348
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 5: into that problem before.

1349
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: But he's really.

1350
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 5: Fucking good and he's fought styles like this. I mean,

1351
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 5: he fought morob early in his career, which I thought

1352
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 5: he was losing the fight until that bullshit, you know

1353
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 5: they when they said what it was with the weird

1354
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 5: choke whatever, I want to go down that road. But

1355
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 5: he fought these intense grapplers that are constantly trying to grapple,

1356
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 5: and j Jack Shore is very similar to that. He's

1357
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 5: a little bit different, build, longer, apparently very very stronger.

1358
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 5: Strikings come a long way, but this is as close

1359
01:03:58,560 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 5: as it gets.

1360
01:03:59,200 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: Man.

1361
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 5: I thinks never fought anybody like Simone, and I think

1362
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 5: Simone is really coming to his own here. I think

1363
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 5: his striking's coming a long way. I think he looks powerful.

1364
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 5: I think his cardios on point. He's up in Oregon,

1365
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,439
Speaker 5: you know, in that camp Gracie Baja, and he's doing

1366
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 5: some great things. I think he's a little under the radar.

1367
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 5: You know, he popped up to forty five for a

1368
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 5: while during COVID and now he's back at thirty five.

1369
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 5: But I sung Jack Suorre's praises. I think the kid's special.

1370
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 5: I think his timing on the feet is really good,

1371
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 5: even though his striking is still coming a long way.

1372
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 5: I think he's very dangerous on the ground. I think

1373
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 5: he's gonna be more of a submission threat on the ground.

1374
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 5: I just think they're gonna cancel each other on the ground.

1375
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 5: It's gonna come to power versus versus technique and a

1376
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 5: little bit. You know, Jacksuar has some really great straight punches.

1377
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go chalk, I'm going to go sure, but

1378
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 5: it's a pass. On the betting side of me, this

1379
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 5: is just cound be my pick. It's Jack short.

1380
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, Ken Flow. Simone is plus one forty five here.

1381
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 6: I thought it would be a little bit closer, not

1382
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:53,919
Speaker 6: a pick him per se. I thought Jack Shorre would

1383
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 6: be favored. But Simone has one four in a row,

1384
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 6: big knockout of Pafeyla suns how last December. He has

1385
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 6: a little bit of Patty Pimblet in him and so

1386
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,600
Speaker 6: far as he does blow up between fights. If you've

1387
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 6: seen Ricky Simone on social media this week, I mean

1388
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 6: he is literally shredded in outstanding shape, but he does

1389
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 6: let himself go a little bit between fights. Big opportunity

1390
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 6: for both Simone and Shore on a big show Ken Flow,

1391
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 6: You're going with the favorite short or the underdog Rickey Simone.

1392
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: Man fantastic fight. Really curious to see what happens in

1393
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 2: this one. Geez, I've slept on Simone a lot. Unfortunately,

1394
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go the other way again here with Jack Shore.

1395
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 2: I do think that Jack is a little bit clear

1396
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 2: with some of the things he does. You know, I

1397
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 2: think it probably comes down to the wrestling. You know,

1398
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,560
Speaker 2: whoever is able to kind of dominate that aspect. I think,

1399
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 2: you know, whoever gets on top, I think it's gonna

1400
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: have a big advantage because everything else is really damn close.

1401
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 2: But I like Jack here. You know, see what he's

1402
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: done so far, and to be undefeated at this stage

1403
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: of his career is very impressive. But this is where

1404
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 2: the killers you know start to appear for him. Yeah,

1405
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: at this point at his trajectory, so let's go Jack here.

1406
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 6: It's like I'm too close to this, but like I

1407
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 6: see Jack Shore versus Ricky Simone, and I think, like

1408
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 6: UFC Fight Night, main event, I fucking love that fight.

1409
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 6: I mean, Simon is really all off, all the time,

1410
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 6: all right, first fight on the main card. This fight

1411
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 6: was to go down a couple weeks ago. Of course,

1412
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 6: Misha Tate and Lauren Murphy at flyweight, So Mesha Tate

1413
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 6: the minus one seventy five favorite, ten cents more a

1414
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:34,959
Speaker 6: favorite than she was a couple of weeks ago. Lauren

1415
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 6: Murphy plus one fifty first fight back for Murphy since

1416
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 6: she failed in her attempt to rest the belt away

1417
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 6: from Valentina Chepchanko last September. Misha Tate has fought twice

1418
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 6: since she ended a four and a half plus year retirement.

1419
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,200
Speaker 6: Now she changes weight classes. Chem Flo, what do you

1420
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 6: think about Tate here making her UFC flyway debut against

1421
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 6: Lauren Murphy.

1422
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's an interesting fight. I do think

1423
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: it's a good fight for Misha in that I feel

1424
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: like all the things that Lauren does well, I feel

1425
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: like Misha does a little bit better. I do think

1426
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 2: that Lauren is still very scrappy Misha, you know, at

1427
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: this stage of her career. Who knows if she still

1428
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 2: has that willingness to really get down and dirty if

1429
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: she needs to be. I think she does, but you

1430
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 2: never know what some of the fighters have been around

1431
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: for a long time. I do think that, you know,

1432
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 2: she has a different approach, a different mentality, which I

1433
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: love to see. I think she's gonna be more technical

1434
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 2: here in this fight, and that's gonna be the difference.

1435
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: But let's go with Misha here.

1436
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,240
Speaker 6: Brian, what do you think?

1437
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:35,440
Speaker 7: Me?

1438
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 6: Shaul Tate, Lauren Murphy? Who do you like?

1439
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 5: This is a classic? You're tinkering with it because I

1440
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 5: have my pick lined up a couple of weeks ago,

1441
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 5: and now I've been thinking about it. The producer to

1442
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 5: the Stars Cody Marris that he was gonna hammer Laura

1443
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 5: Murphy at that dog price, and here I am gonna

1444
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 5: go Mesha take and I really the reason I do

1445
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 5: is because since Misha had birth to her child, she's

1446
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 5: come back and she's looked just in phenomenal shape. Even

1447
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 5: if thirty five she was shredded, and she goes, oh,

1448
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 5: I can make twenty five so I'm not super worried

1449
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 5: about the way coo because I know I think she's

1450
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 5: doing it right seeing the Instagram photos. She seems to

1451
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 5: be in shape. And Laura Murphy, I just think it's

1452
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 5: gonna be a little too slow. She's good everywhere, but

1453
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 5: she's not great everywhere, and I think Niece is going

1454
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 5: to kind of expose that with her takedowns. I think

1455
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 5: Nisa is very good on the ground. I think she

1456
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 5: has very good submissions, and she can get really I mean,

1457
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 5: as pretty as she is, she can get fucking mean

1458
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 5: in there and then get roll scrappy and death plug

1459
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,479
Speaker 5: it out. And she's tough. She's got a good chin.

1460
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,720
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go Cupcake Tate here on this one,

1461
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 5: all right.

1462
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 6: Next up at featherweight the All Action Hero Shane Burgos

1463
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 6: minus one ninety five taken on charl Air Jordaane, who

1464
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 6: is plus one sixty five. So question beckins, guys, will

1465
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 6: Shane Burgos become a legitimate title contender? The guy that

1466
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 6: many thought he would become? Right, Because I say all

1467
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 6: Action hero somewhat tongue in cheek, right, it sounds great

1468
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 6: he is that, but he has aspirations well, beyond just

1469
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 6: being an exciting fighter. So if he is to make

1470
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 6: good on those expectations, brah, he's got to beat Charles Jordaane,

1471
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 6: how do he handicap this one? At one hundred and

1472
01:08:58,439 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 6: forty five pounds, this is a.

1473
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 2: Tough one for me to pick.

1474
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 5: I mean besides simone and short, because I'm not gonna

1475
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 5: have action on that fight. This was the toughest one

1476
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 5: for me. Like I like Charles Jordan. I think his technique,

1477
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 5: I think his striking is very good. Is sometimes he

1478
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 5: gets caught up and if you look at the Julian

1479
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 5: Rosa fight, like when he wanted when a Rosa want

1480
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 5: to brawl, he and he entertained that idea and then

1481
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 5: he kind of fell behind the guy and got choked out.

1482
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 5: Shan Burgos is boxing slick. His chin is slick. He's

1483
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:26,599
Speaker 5: fucking huge for forty five. Still, every time I'm gonna

1484
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 5: tweet it Saturday, you can fucking put your money on it.

1485
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 5: I was like, how does this guy make forty five

1486
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 5: because I think he's in his career at fifty five

1487
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 5: and I think you know he's thirty one. Now, as

1488
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 5: you get a little older, I think fifty five is

1489
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 5: gonna help that chin a little bit. Not that his

1490
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 5: chin's a problem, but that Eds and Barbosa knockout scared me.

1491
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 5: That delayed reaction terrified me. I was like, what has happened?

1492
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 5: Like his brain was like no, I'm good, I'm good,

1493
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 5: and then he just collapses. That was pretty scary. But

1494
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 5: the guy's absolute nails. His boxing is really good, his

1495
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 5: power is really good, and he gets in and out

1496
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 5: his card. He was actually really impressive too for being

1497
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 5: so big. I leaned Jordaane early on. I think Jordan,

1498
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 5: you know, showed up and showed some submissions coming off

1499
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 5: that guillotine joke, and I like him. But man, this

1500
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 5: gonna be fine. The night written all over. I'm gonna

1501
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 5: go uh Shamburgos, I'm gonna go Chalk. It's a little

1502
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 5: wide for me. I don't like how it's almost two

1503
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 5: to one. I just think when the tough gets going,

1504
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 5: he's been there a little more than Jordana. I think

1505
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 5: Jordaane's a Vanesse guy, and I think Burgos in New York,

1506
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 5: He's gonna fucking want to bring it. So give me Burgos.

1507
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 5: Even though I do think the line is a.

1508
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 6: Little wide, Burgos has fought so much in New York

1509
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 6: all over the state. From the UFC out pointed Billy

1510
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 6: Q last November that was at Madison Square Garden. He

1511
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 6: is still ranked now number fourteen in the world Ken Plow.

1512
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 6: On the other side, the much improved Charles Jordayne. He's

1513
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 6: won three or four submitted Lando Banata earlier this year.

1514
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,879
Speaker 6: How do you handicap his chances here against Shaan Burgos.

1515
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 6: You know, Jordayane is a very dangerous fighter, and he

1516
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 6: also has a knack for finding a way to make

1517
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 6: adjustments and like coming back and getting a win. But

1518
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 6: I think this is pretty straightforward sometimes.

1519
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 2: I think Jordayane, while he does have some flashy stuff

1520
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 2: and we'll sit and watch a little bit, he can

1521
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: get overly aggressive and overly emotional, which is what you

1522
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 2: don't want to do against someone like a Shane Burgos.

1523
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: I think Shane Burgos is very consistent, stays pretty composed

1524
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,800
Speaker 2: for the most part, and we saw him in his

1525
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 2: performance against Billy Q and his last one against a

1526
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,680
Speaker 2: guy who was continue to come fullard. We're throwing a

1527
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: lot of offense at him, but Shane was just kind

1528
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: of picking him apart and throwing some devastating shots, and

1529
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be able to do that here

1530
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,760
Speaker 2: again against Jordaine, who I think has a lot of

1531
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 2: potential but isn't quite there yet to beat someone like Shane.

1532
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 2: So let's go Burgos as well.

1533
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 6: All right? Next up at Flyway, the streaking Sue Mudargie

1534
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 6: minus two to forty match Schnell plus two hundred. So

1535
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 6: Schnell still number eight in the rankings. Just one win

1536
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 6: for him though since twenty nineteen. Last fight with Brandon

1537
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 6: roy Ball was a fight of the night Brian, despite

1538
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 6: the fact that it lasted just two minutes and fourteen seconds.

1539
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 6: On the other side, Sue Mudargis won three in a row.

1540
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 6: He'll try to go from number eleven in the world

1541
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,360
Speaker 6: to the top eight or so at at least he

1542
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 6: has favored to do so, Brian Petrie, Which way you

1543
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 6: go in here with the men at one hundred and

1544
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 6: twenty five pounds.

1545
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 5: I think I might have been the only person alive

1546
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 5: that watched MTV Caged and that's where we first got

1547
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 5: to see Matt Schnell that he's the Ana boys down there.

1548
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 5: I like Match Snell. My biggest problem Max Snell is

1549
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 5: is he doesn't fight a lot anymore, and then there's

1550
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 5: been a little bit of a chin issue. He gets

1551
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 5: rocked a little bit and suber Majar, he can fucking

1552
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 5: crack you. Problem is, Matchnell's really well rounded. He's kind

1553
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,560
Speaker 5: of fixed out. You look at the excuse me, the

1554
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 5: Boxerine fight. I'm to go try to pronounce his first names.

1555
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 5: I already fucked up twice. You look at the box

1556
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 5: Tree fight. He's a big, powerful guy. Snoell hung in

1557
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 5: there and and Chin showed out. His boxing looked pretty good.

1558
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 5: You know he's in Texas now. I think he runs

1559
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 5: his own camp, which kind of throws me a little bit.

1560
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 6: Pauls.

1561
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 5: But he's doing MMA a long time that I think

1562
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 5: it's gonna be okay. But Sue Majari's loss has come

1563
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 5: by submission. Mat Chanel has a great triangle, he's active,

1564
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 5: office back, he's got a great arm bar. And you're

1565
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 5: giving me two to one for the former MTV star.

1566
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 5: Give me the dog here, baby, Max Snell wrapping up

1567
01:12:58,640 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 5: with a submission.

1568
01:12:59,360 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 2: I like it.

1569
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,680
Speaker 6: Big spot for Matt Chanell can flow, especially given the

1570
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,920
Speaker 6: way his last fight went. He dealt with the loss

1571
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 6: of his mother and just kind of went in there

1572
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 6: with a reckless abandon that that obviously did not behoove him.

1573
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 6: Your thoughts on Schnell here seemed like you were nodding

1574
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 6: at least during some of that Petrie analysis there.

1575
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that is exactly where Suma Dargie is

1576
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 2: most susceptible on the ground. I mean you could even

1577
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 2: say he's just weak on the ground. I mean he

1578
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 2: makes some big time mistakes, and if he gives up

1579
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 2: position against someone like Matt Schnell, I think that's where

1580
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: Schnell can really expose him.

1581
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 6: So that's the pick I wanted to go with as well.

1582
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's a smart one. Super

1583
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 2: Dargy is very dangerous on the feet, and sometimes Matt Schnell,

1584
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: you know, could sit there and watch his work and

1585
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 2: get caught. That's what I'm most concerned with. But I

1586
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: think there's enough value there to put money on Schnell.

1587
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 5: There you go.

1588
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, by the way, you started talking about jiu jitsu

1589
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 6: and Texas, and it got me thinking about our matchmaker.

1590
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 6: Mick Maynard, by the way, said to his two daughters like, hey,

1591
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 6: you know mix a Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt, Henzo

1592
01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 6: Gracie black belt. He said, hey, you know, you guys,

1593
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 6: become a blue belt, I'll buy your car. You know oo.

1594
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 6: One of his daughters is a blue belt, the other

1595
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 6: one saving for an automobile. Ah ah, right and well

1596
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 6: for the wait Buslam. Salakov minus one sixty five the

1597
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 6: leech Lee Jinglyong plus one forty So the leech has

1598
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 6: not fought since that submission loss to kamzat Chimaia that

1599
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 6: was more than eight months ago. He is now training

1600
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:31,719
Speaker 6: in South Florida, working with my guys at the Institute

1601
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 6: of Human Performance on the strength and conditioning side, on

1602
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 6: the other side of the King of Kung Fu. Salakov

1603
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 6: has won five in a row. Bride, but we haven't

1604
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 6: seen this guy in a long time. Hasn't competed in

1605
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 6: more than a year. Francisco Trinaldo. His last victim last

1606
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 6: June was to face Michelle Padeda in January, but he

1607
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,200
Speaker 6: was reportedly forced to pull out, which has been a

1608
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 6: recurring theme in his UFC career. Salakov on rank Jingleong

1609
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 6: number fourteen in the world. Who wins, Brian.

1610
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 5: I like Salakov's style. I think it's flashy. His kicks

1611
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 5: are really not ice is striking is good. As Cardio

1612
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:04,479
Speaker 5: has been in question at times. I feel like every

1613
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 5: time he steps up, this guy who's knocking everyone else

1614
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 5: also not knocking anyone out. But y'all bust have forgot

1615
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 5: about the leaks. I mean, this dude is nails, and

1616
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 5: I know what happened to the Chamaya fight. Everyone's gonna

1617
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 5: ride him off. That's why we're getting plus one forty here.

1618
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 5: I had this line a little bit closer because we

1619
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 5: haven't seen Salakov really take this next step up, and

1620
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 5: Leech can make it ugly. I mean, Leech went in there,

1621
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 5: he knocked out Santiago Pontsmibio, and he can get in

1622
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 5: there and he can make it absolutely ugly. I like

1623
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 5: the leecherre at plus one forty. I'm taking a dog set.

1624
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 5: I'm actually pretty confident in this. I think, you know,

1625
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 5: after the first round, the flashy stuff's gonna kind of

1626
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:37,720
Speaker 5: go away and the Leech is just gonna grind on him.

1627
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 5: He's big for the weight class as well. He went

1628
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 5: in Vegas, people right about his training in Vegas. Now

1629
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 5: he's out in South Florida. He's making on the right

1630
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 5: moves here. So give me the leach of the dog number.

1631
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 6: Ken Fully, what do you think about the welcher waste

1632
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 6: Lee ching liong Muslim Salakov favored to take his number here.

1633
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 2: Well, I'm definitely feeling a little bit more hesitant picking

1634
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 2: Muslim here now that I heard preppy. I think it's

1635
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 2: I think it's a good analysis. I think Muslim is.

1636
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think he's a little bit cleaner

1637
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 2: with some of this stuff. I think he could surprise

1638
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: Lead Jingle Leung, But I do agree if it gets nasty. Uh,

1639
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 2: that's where you know Lee Jing Leung is going to

1640
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 2: thrive and probably win the fight. But I'm gonna go

1641
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 2: the other way. I'm gonna go with Muslim.

1642
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 6: All right, let us get to the co main event

1643
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 6: at strawweight Amanda Lamos minus four twenty five Michelle Waterson

1644
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 6: plus three forty Ryan. Earlier in the show, we talked

1645
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 6: about Jacker Manson, who is now fighting your good friend

1646
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 6: Chris Curtis, who was steadying for Guaran till. Yeah, and

1647
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 6: I know you were able to hammer Chris Curtis at

1648
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 6: plus money. Yes, he is now minus one fifty six

1649
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 6: on my site to take Jacker Manson's ranking in the

1650
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 6: top six or so. Yeah, So when go ahead, no.

1651
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 5: No, I said, I had to go. I drove the

1652
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 5: Indiana when they released the lines, it was minus one

1653
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 5: ten when I left the house. The only book that

1654
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,480
Speaker 5: I had that was available for me Indiana was Caesar's

1655
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 5: Sports Book, so I download that app got him at

1656
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 5: plus one forty. Now in Caesars he's minus one forty.

1657
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:05,839
Speaker 5: Literally completely flipped.

1658
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did.

1659
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 5: I'm going to hammer him again. I just you know,

1660
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,560
Speaker 5: I just did a little play here to give it

1661
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 5: that the plus number because I figured it was probably

1662
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 5: gonna be a pick on me. Jack Harmannson, I think

1663
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 5: he's ring eighth, but I think it's a really good

1664
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 5: matchup for Chris. I think Chris is a butcher.

1665
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 6: I do a lot of people like that matchup for Chris.

1666
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 6: Seems like most of the bets and the percentage of

1667
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 6: handle on Chris Curtis. And that brings us to this

1668
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 6: co main event because I can sit here and say

1669
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,799
Speaker 6: I'm on to Lemosh minus four to twenty five. Michelle Waterson,

1670
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 6: given all of her experience and the fact that she's

1671
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 6: in the best shape of her life, shouldn't be plus

1672
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 6: three forty, but ultimately nobody's moving that number, right, and

1673
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 6: Michelle is not now all of a sudden plus two

1674
01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 6: sixty right, So this is where we are right now.

1675
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 6: It's number ten versus number eleven in the world at

1676
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 6: one hundred and fifteen pounds. Talk to me, BP, I

1677
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 6: mean Lemosh was all the rage before she ran into

1678
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 6: Jessica andraj and what was her first uf the main

1679
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 6: event that was earlier this year. Your thoughts on Lemosh

1680
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 6: prohibitively favored. I would say here against the karate haughty

1681
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 6: Michelle Watterson.

1682
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 5: Very wide, very wide line. I have a horrible track

1683
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 5: record vetting and picking women's of a man. It's just

1684
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 5: my achilles heel. Michelle Watterson, you know, the karate hotty

1685
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 5: she came out, came in the UFC, is a huge star.

1686
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 5: You know, she's fighting up a weight class. Let's be honest.

1687
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 5: I mean, if they had one oh five back in

1688
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 5: the day, she'd be fighting one oh five. Adam Waite

1689
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 5: is what she was at was she's known for. But

1690
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 5: she came in with these flashy kids in good striking

1691
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 5: and then now she's like slowly turned into like a

1692
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 5: well rounded mixed martial artist. Who likes to go for takedowns.

1693
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 5: But she's just a little on her size, so I

1694
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 5: don't know if it really works out for I think

1695
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 5: she's obviously improved and made improvements, but when she gets

1696
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,479
Speaker 5: it there, she's not like lights out submissions. She's kind

1697
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 5: of confused with me sometimes the way she fights, and

1698
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 5: she's been off for a little bit over a year.

1699
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 5: You get Limos. She's coming off that dut against Escon Drodge,

1700
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 5: which again I'm not saying that disrespectful because Androge is

1701
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,759
Speaker 5: a beast. She went in there and got that standing

1702
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 5: arm triangle and you know didn't tap. I mean, she

1703
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 5: just you know, got flat lined. But I still believe

1704
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 5: in Lemos. She I'm gonna go lemoshowver Waterson just because

1705
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 5: I don't know how Michelle Watterson's to win this fight.

1706
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 5: I don't know if she can. She's got out striker,

1707
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 5: She's not gonna knock her out. I don't know if

1708
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 5: she can out grapple her. She is in the best

1709
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 5: shape of life. I saw the some photos got posts

1710
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 5: I think you'll see or someone on Twitter was supposed

1711
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 5: to photo. She's ripped, shredded for those fights, and I'm

1712
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 5: glad she's motivated to come back because there's been other

1713
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 5: things outside the MMA world that she's been able to do.

1714
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,720
Speaker 5: But I like lemos Here. I like lemos Here. I

1715
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 5: think she'd be a little more motivated. I think she

1716
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 5: might be a little embarrassed by how she performed in

1717
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 5: the first main event. So she'll come out guns of

1718
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 5: blazing here. Give me Lemos even though Johnny, you're right,

1719
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 5: way too wide to touch. You're gonna have to dive

1720
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 5: into props.

1721
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 6: For this one. Yeah, Wattison, the Karate Haughty is back hot.

1722
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,879
Speaker 6: She's super hot. Can't flow the Karate Haughty, Michelle Wattison.

1723
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 6: She has dropped three or four but three of her

1724
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,440
Speaker 6: last four habit UFC main events. She's had some injuries,

1725
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 6: extended layoff that dates to May of twenty twenty one.

1726
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 6: Can't flow amount of lemos a huge bedic favorite here

1727
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 6: the co main event on ABC.

1728
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:59,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably because you know, she matches up so

1729
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 2: well against a lot of strikers. Now, as as mister

1730
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 2: Petrie said, I think that the karate Hotty has turned

1731
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 2: into kind of the the wrestling hotty, the double leg.

1732
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 2: Perhaps she gets a lot of takedowns up against the cage,

1733
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: and she's good at you know, landing at Her timing

1734
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:20,040
Speaker 2: has really really improved. Is she a threat on the ground.

1735
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 6: Not really.

1736
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 2: That's not gonna be enough for me to to go

1737
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,640
Speaker 2: the other way, you know, I don't think she's a

1738
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 2: threat enough submission wise to catch someone like Lamos. And

1739
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 2: I think she's in that in between zone where she

1740
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 2: has one of the best sidekicks in MMA, but sometimes

1741
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: doesn't utilize it in the right way all the time

1742
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 2: consistently throughout her fight. Whereas Lemos, when she gets her timing,

1743
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 2: watch the f out. She's the absolute assassin. She can

1744
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 2: time you going backwards, she can attack and move forward

1745
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: and land some great combinations. She attacks the body extremely well.

1746
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 2: Her hands are lightning fast when they're on point. So

1747
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 2: gimme Lemos, Lemos, Lemos with the with the he O accent.

1748
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 6: And given the way her main event went with andrage,

1749
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,680
Speaker 6: you know, someone suggested to me earlier today, it's a

1750
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 6: bad time to be fighting a bad and she.

1751
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:09,719
Speaker 2: Gonna be pissed.

1752
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right. Main event this is a true featherweight

1753
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 6: title eliminator between Brian Ortega minus one fifty five and

1754
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 6: Yayi Rodriguez, who is plus one thirty five one man

1755
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 6: will be eliminated here. A lot of fans feel like

1756
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 6: a win for Yeah year might just earn him that

1757
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 6: elusive first UFC title shot, But he has thought just

1758
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 6: once since twenty nineteen. That was a competitive loss, of course,

1759
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 6: to Max Holloway in a main event in Vegas, November

1760
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 6: twenty twenty one. Ken Flow, We're gonna leave with you here.

1761
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 6: What a fight to headline the UFC's first excuse me,

1762
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 6: third live events on ABC. You go on Ortega or

1763
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 6: Rodriguez and how do they get it done?

1764
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: Tremendous matchmaking here, U. This is a fight between two

1765
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 2: guys with similar backgrounds, who do not quit, who have

1766
01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 2: specialties in different areas that very few people do have,

1767
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:04,560
Speaker 2: you know, And I guess let's go into Ortego with

1768
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: the submissions and Yayear's speed. Every time Yayar strikes every fight,

1769
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm always surprised by how fast he is, Like I'm like, oh, yeah,

1770
01:22:15,080 --> 01:22:16,040
Speaker 2: he's lightning fast.

1771
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 6: I kind of forgot about that. And then the next fight,

1772
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 6: Oh yeah he's lightning fast.

1773
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 2: I kind of forgot about it. He is so damn

1774
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 2: fast and nasty. Like every strike he throws. He's either

1775
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 2: trying to break your leg, break your chin, send your

1776
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 2: head off your shoulders like he's a nasty, nasty prick.

1777
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 2: And in that fight against Holloway, he showed that he's

1778
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 2: tough as well. He's game as hell, right, and we've

1779
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 2: seen that in different instances, and of course with Ordega

1780
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 2: in his fights, we've seen that this dude is ready

1781
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 2: to die in the octagon. He's another one of these

1782
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 2: guys tough as hell. And again, if he gets you

1783
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 2: in the right position, he's going to put you to

1784
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: sleep or break something. He is very dangerous the submission game,

1785
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 2: and I think this is where he needs to win

1786
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: that fight. Is he good on the feet, Yes, he is.

1787
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 2: I just think Yayer made such improvements in that fight

1788
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: against Holloway, and I imagine has made a lot of

1789
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 2: improvement since he's one of those guys that I see

1790
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 2: consistently getting better, more dangerous, making better decisions all the time.

1791
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 2: Where he was a little bit more of a raw

1792
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 2: dude who I thought had a lot of potential, and

1793
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 2: he has really fulfilled. I think much of his potential

1794
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: still has more to go, but I think his wrestling

1795
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,839
Speaker 2: has made enough improvements where he can thwart those takedowns

1796
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 2: attempt from Ortega and really punish Ortega on the feet.

1797
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,519
Speaker 2: I don't know if he finishes it, but he's certainly

1798
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 2: dangerous enough to do it, and or take is dangerous

1799
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: enough on the ground to finish Yair as well. I

1800
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 2: just think Yayir is streaking at the right time. He's

1801
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: taking smart fights. He's taking the time off in between

1802
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:04,560
Speaker 2: fights to come back better, smarter, and let's go with Rodriguez.

1803
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 6: That was outstanding. I might, even when I'm running, if

1804
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 6: I listen to this back, I don't usually listen to

1805
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 6: the show back, I might rewind it for three seconds

1806
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 6: and listen to that again, because yes, I mean you

1807
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 6: encapsulated Yayi Rodriguez for me in a way that I've

1808
01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,560
Speaker 6: been trying to like. There's just something about when he

1809
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 6: fights that is is edge of your seat thriller. Uh

1810
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,680
Speaker 6: and I think his speed is a lot of that

1811
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:32,680
Speaker 6: dance partner. This is amazing fight. Yeah, the city's the man.

1812
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 6: I think Brian Petrie is going with Yayi Rodriguez. But

1813
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 6: let us hear his main events election BP gohead.

1814
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 5: Tell you what tough act to follow?

1815
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 2: Can he.

1816
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 3: There?

1817
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: Brother.

1818
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, listen, this is they're both very similar with

1819
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 5: their trajectories. They both have Yeah years reached a Frank

1820
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 5: Yegger mountain top and lost, and then he's not as

1821
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 5: if active. Then he reached the Max Holloway mountain top

1822
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 5: and low. But in the Frankie fight where he just

1823
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 5: looked kind of fish out of on the ground, the

1824
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,000
Speaker 5: Max fight where if you got remember Max was taking

1825
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 5: him down and he took a lot of damage. That

1826
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 5: was something my question on that year was how tough

1827
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 5: is this guy? Yeah, you condition out, but is he tough?

1828
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 5: And Max's take him down and match has hit him

1829
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 5: and that was a really fun competitive fight. Brian o'tega,

1830
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 5: he's had a different trajectory where he's gotten the title

1831
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 5: shot and he's felt short. So both these guys are

1832
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 5: falling short and this is such good matchmaking at a

1833
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 5: perfect time for both of them. Ortega, you're right with

1834
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 5: the home run Derry coming up. This guy's got the

1835
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 5: long ball. That long ball is his guillotine, his any

1836
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 5: kind of tryangle choke. Obviously we saw in the Volkanovski

1837
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 5: fight with that was deep. You look at all his

1838
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 5: prior fights as well. He's losing these fights, he was

1839
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,600
Speaker 5: losing them with kind of fight, choked them out. He

1840
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 5: was in a competitive fight with Clay Guida and then

1841
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 5: caught him, you know. So it's like, that's what this

1842
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 5: guy does, and you're giving me five rounds here. That's

1843
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 5: an interesting look at But I think yah Yea is

1844
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 5: just on another level right now. You're giving me plus

1845
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 5: money on a guy who I think is in the

1846
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 5: prime of his life. I think his striking is is crazy.

1847
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 5: His hands or his feet are just as fast as

1848
01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 5: his hands, which is unbelievable. His powers there for a

1849
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 5: guy that's pretty lanky and he doesn't look like the

1850
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 5: most powerful guy. He finds you and it's over. Even

1851
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 5: though Brian Taga has one of the best chans at

1852
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 5: forty five, this could be very competitive and interesting and

1853
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 5: and Brian Otega has necessarily not fought the best game

1854
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 5: plans going out there. I mean, he looked great against Zombie,

1855
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 5: but the clear path to victory here if if I'm

1856
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 5: in Ortega's corners, let's get this fight to the ground, right,

1857
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 5: I mean, but he doesn't really do that, and so

1858
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 5: I question if his takedowns are that good because his

1859
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 5: jitsu is that good. But give me ya year here.

1860
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 5: I think Yayu is gonna win this fight. I think

1861
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 5: it's gonna be the decision.

1862
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 6: I agree with Kenny.

1863
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 5: I don't see it as finished because both guys are nails.

1864
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 5: But give me yea year at.

1865
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 6: The plus money.

1866
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 4: Oh.

1867
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 6: I can't wait to see it. Cannot wait to see it.

1868
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 6: And we'll see if Yaya Rodriguez can can't produce that

1869
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 6: next level win and maybe secure a championship opportunity. And

1870
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 6: I've had the chance to call Yaya Rodriguez fights so

1871
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 6: sparingly that I'm just kind of holding out hope that

1872
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 6: we actually get to fight day. And one other interesting

1873
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 6: wrinkle before we let Brian go. I believe the fighters

1874
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 6: are going to weigh in at eight a m. Eastern time,

1875
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 6: with a very quick turnaround on Saturday, right, so juxtapost

1876
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 6: against Singapore where the athletes get a full twenty four

1877
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 6: hour day and two sleeps. This will be interesting. So

1878
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 6: we bump up the way in an hour, but it's

1879
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 6: still for a lot of the athletes, gonna be a

1880
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 6: minimal recovery window. All right at Brian Petrie MMA for

1881
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 6: more from Brie, who will have more later in the

1882
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 6: week on the Mma Takes Podcast. Appreciate your brother, Enjoy

1883
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 6: the rest of your Sunday, have a good week, and

1884
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 6: we will talk to you in less than seven days.

1885
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 5: My man, awesome boys, have a good one.

1886
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 6: So yeah, there is Brian Petrie with us for the

1887
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 6: main event challenge. I have to say that our Fight

1888
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 6: Pass exclusive segment where we look back at Kenny's win

1889
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 6: over Alvin Robinson at UFC seventy three, we appreciate the

1890
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 6: feedback very much. And I have to say Ken Flow,

1891
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 6: your post fight interview where you talk about finishing fights, right,

1892
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,600
Speaker 6: it really would translate to modern day. Like, I know,

1893
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,719
Speaker 6: people make fun of you for the high pitch voice

1894
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 6: or whatever, and then we clip it out so it

1895
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 6: sounds even more feminine, Right, I finish fights, But when

1896
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 6: you ingest it as its whole clip, it's like you

1897
01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 6: want to see fights finish, right, I'm going to clear

1898
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 6: out this whole lightweight bracket and it's only gonna be

1899
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 6: me and fucking Sean Shirk. Like, you actually cut a

1900
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 6: brilliant promo even though your voice sounded like you know,

1901
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 6: puberty was just a couple of years before.

1902
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good promo for Mickey Mouse. No listen,

1903
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:19,600
Speaker 2: I think that it was coming the other thing. It

1904
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 2: was coming off the backdrop of Sean Shirk competing against

1905
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 2: Hermes Franca that night too, So I was like, it

1906
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 2: went five rounds. It was another kind of you know,

1907
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 2: I was trying to build as a boring fight by

1908
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 2: Sean Shirk, and I was like, Hey, I'm the guy

1909
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 2: out there finishing fights.

1910
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:34,920
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get back there and blah blah blah.

1911
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 2: So I was trying to take advantage of the Sean

1912
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 2: Shirk performance, I guess, but thank you, buddy.

1913
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 6: All right, in a week or so, we will have

1914
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 6: our second UFC Fight Pass exclusive and details to comments

1915
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 6: to which fight we will be looking back at. If

1916
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 6: you want to give us feedback as to which fight

1917
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 6: you would like us to watch. Certainly it might be

1918
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 6: one of Kenny Florian's, it might not be, but at

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Speaker 6: Anti Florian Pod it has to be a finish though,

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Speaker 6: so trying to avoid fights that end with a decision

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Speaker 6: at Anti Chlorum Pod. If you wanted to give us

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Speaker 6: some feedback as to which fight we will screen next.

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Speaker 6: All right, before we get on out of here, got

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Speaker 6: to clean out the bone marrow. Get to the marrow

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Speaker 6: seconds what's up kid, Hey.

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Speaker 8: You're paying for it, you may as well eat it

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Speaker 8: right down to the bone.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying telling you. I mean, I

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Speaker 6: was at a very fancy restaurant in Vegas a few

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Speaker 6: weeks ago and they brought out the bone Marrow. I

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Speaker 6: didn't even know what to do with it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I love that stuff. You put it on

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Speaker 2: the bread.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, all right, Cody.

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Speaker 8: And Kenny's like, oh, well, when I put my Cady

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Speaker 8: away in my nineteen forty seven Cabernet is when I

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Speaker 8: break out the bone Marrow.

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Speaker 2: I'm just a cape man, all right, Sorry, Cody.

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Speaker 8: Guy moves from California, stick at a wine cellar. So,

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Speaker 8: so I just wanted to start off with I'm not

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Speaker 8: sure if you guys saw this. So this was a

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Speaker 8: fight pass fight where being a bad ass goes wrong,

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Speaker 8: and I just wanted to play it for you guys

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Speaker 8: to see why I said that. So, hand behind the back,

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Speaker 8: a little bit of McGregor action there, round three thirty

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Speaker 8: seconds left and you're done. Oh so if your audio

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Speaker 8: only fighter had his hands behind his back, not on

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Speaker 8: like moss feed all pre asciran fight.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, show voting and uh just.

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Speaker 8: Not great, just not a great look. You know, if

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Speaker 8: you're gonna try and get on the Contender series or something,

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Speaker 8: maybe maybe leave that one out. So I just thought

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Speaker 8: you can find that on UFC Fight Pass if you

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Speaker 8: use our promo code to get yourself a subscription there.

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Speaker 8: But I mean, if you listen to this podcast and

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Speaker 8: you don't have a subscription already to watch our exclusive, like,

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Speaker 8: what are you doing?

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Speaker 6: Like tell me please about the lighter? I mean, what

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Speaker 6: are you doing with your life?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? Kid?

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Speaker 8: So interesting autobiography story? So John, I agreed with the

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Speaker 8: point you made. It was like, well, if you had

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Speaker 8: been writing, you know, X amount of pages a week,

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Speaker 8: you know you'd have an autobiography right now.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 8: Fun fact, I have a writing minor. In college, I

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Speaker 8: took an autobiography class and the professor she said, you know,

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Speaker 8: if you do ten pages a week, you'll get to

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Speaker 8: the eighty pages, like you'll get an A. You needed

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Speaker 8: that many pages to get an A. Yeah, I didn't

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Speaker 8: do that. I did the entire thing the night before.

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Speaker 8: I wrote eighty pages in a single night, which was

1973
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Speaker 8: awesome but also the worst thing I ever did. Because

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Speaker 8: if I can procrastinate, and get eighty pages in the night,

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Speaker 8: like what Canada the Knight's notice.

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Speaker 6: I mean, any recreational drugs to push you through those

1977
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 6: eighty pages? How do you do eighty pages? Sober? I

1978
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 6: wrote a senior thesis. It was forty five pages. It

1979
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Speaker 6: took me months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Well, let's just say that the sativa was flowing and

1982
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Speaker 8: we kept the indicat out of the out of the conversation.

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Speaker 6: But my senior thesis, by the way, Cody and Kenny,

1984
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Speaker 6: was called, uh, how the media undermines American democracy?

1985
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Speaker 2: And no way? Wow?

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Speaker 6: And that was in two thousand. How pertinent is that

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Speaker 6: right now?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 8: If only that was relatable to today's day?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Damn dude. John's way ahead of his time.

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Speaker 6: I love it. Yeah, I mean terrible. Go ahead, Cody.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm just going to say, the next time John's

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Speaker 8: gonna be the New York Post, It's going to be

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Speaker 8: an editorial that he writes, you know, frontage expose.

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Speaker 2: You know some quotes, John, let me know.

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Speaker 8: It's the dangers of airline travel, like what one hundred

1997
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Speaker 8: and eighty hours of flight time in a year will

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Speaker 8: do to your or something like that, speaking of around

1999
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Speaker 8: the world, so Jack Shorn's team obviously trading with Wrongo.

2000
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Speaker 8: Theyre there in Long Island getting a lot of hospitality.

2001
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 8: They tweeted today like oh New York City and this

2002
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 8: other place, like how on Earth? But then the motherfuckers

2003
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Speaker 8: take a picture in Times Square. I'm like, dude, that's

2004
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 8: like going to Typhoon Lagoon and Disney like got him

2005
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 8: wet here, Like what do you mean you went to

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Speaker 8: a water park? Like you went to Times Square expecting

2007
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 8: it not to be shitty, Like, don't go to Times Square?

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Speaker 6: Everyone just like PSA.

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Speaker 8: Thanks Physivee calls out Rafael and Nadal in his uh postfight.

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Speaker 8: I just thought that was a huge waste, like and

2011
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Speaker 8: then he doubled back on it when Bispin came around.

2012
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Speaker 8: So I just wanted to say, you know, like Ruby,

2013
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Speaker 8: you're in the corner, but like maybe maybe being your

2014
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Speaker 8: guy's ear for the call out, because again calling out

2015
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Speaker 8: due Danny Rube versus Cody Merrow USC two eighty three.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I'm not gonna make it joke, but friendly

2017
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Speaker 6: like an a doll call out. I didn't, it didn't

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Speaker 6: even register on my radar.

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Speaker 2: I did.

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Speaker 8: The has below one was actually funny, but the n

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Speaker 8: doll one and then he doubled back on it where

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Speaker 8: it was like okay, bro, like that wasn't funny the

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Speaker 8: first time, Like you just wasted the call out. If

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Speaker 8: he would have gotten on there and been like Tony Ferguson,

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Speaker 8: you're a bum, like that sells it for me. Boom

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Speaker 8: main event, Phyzy Ferguson, make it happen. But Raphael Nadell,

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Speaker 8: I mean, Raphael Nadell.

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Speaker 2: Probably beat Phase's asked me.

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Speaker 5: It's huge.

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Speaker 6: He's like to listen to the New Hampshire coming out.

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Speaker 6: Phayzie's gonna be on your ass forget Danny Rube. No, yeah,

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Speaker 6: but I like the gaygy call.

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Speaker 8: I just thought it would have been on the mic,

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Speaker 8: So that's I thought it was a little promotional mishap there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is your segment man, I'm in uh.

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Speaker 8: And then just friendly reminder everybody, The Long Island Cards

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Speaker 8: eleven am start. It's on ABC, but eleven am start

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Speaker 8: two pm Men Card and then Steak and Lobsters on

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Speaker 8: the podcast with Ray and John.

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Speaker 6: Steak and lobs on Ray and John and there is

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Speaker 6: a chance, thank you Cody, that we will have a

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Speaker 6: of UFC two seventy seven. Thank you to our guests,

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Speaker 6: the venerable Mark Rattner, the slightly Less Venerable Rey Longo

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Speaker 6: and Big gu Brian Peachey, our producers Cody Marrow. Thanks

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