1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast starts no. Welcome back to 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: another edition of the Round the League Podcast. My name 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: is Dan Hanzas, and I am joined by a room 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: filled with sub heroes, Mark Sessler and Gregg Rosenthal. A 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: lot up, boys? How are you impressive? Intro there? Because 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: I know you're in at the office at five am 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: you were doing a fantastic live blog of the inaugural 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl Draft. But you've got a lot of energy anyways. Yes, well, 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: you know what. I don't want to get into exactly 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: how I'm so hyped up, but I am very excited. 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: I can't say the same thing for Cessler. We don't 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: have West with us. He'll be back. I'm worried that 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: we might be losing Cessler to to illness. Potentially does 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: not look good. Right now, I will survived the show. 15 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna disinfect your microphone makes sense if we care 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: about our fellow employee, the gold standard behind the glass. 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: Do you have disinfectant that you could take care of 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: this issue. I was raised by a Jewish mother, so 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: we always have Lysol prepared the gold standard. Only Jews 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: use Lisol fun fact yes or no? Okay, So a 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: lot of feedback, by the way, how are you, Greg, 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: haven't said anything yet. I don't know if Yeah, I 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: was the first person to talk after you, but well 24 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: I told it. It was up very early today. A 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: lot of feedback over the proposed abolishment of the penny 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: that came up out of our what was the original 27 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: discussion was about the point apparently Canada abolished their penny. Yeah, 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: they're ahead of us, Canada. It's common sense, healthcare, tennis 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: coin legislation. Canada well starting to be a factor. The 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: attic is is getting factor level. However, they do have 31 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: Justin Bieber as well. I feel like we have him. 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: He's completely washed his hands of Canada and we're stuck 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: with him. Correct, that's true. And then one other thing 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: about the extra points. Thomas L. Sandberg or Sandjerg from Denmark. 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: I'll never get any of these last names. Right on 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: Twitter pointed out that if we abolished the extra point, 37 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: a pick six would become a pick seven, and immediately 38 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm out personally once we lose pick six, one of 39 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: my favorite new terms of the century. There's no ring 40 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: to that. I hadn't thought of that. That's a great point. 41 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: It's a problem. The more we look back on the 42 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: extra point issue. The initial post that I wrote in 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: like twenty minutes was missing a lot of key factors 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: and elements. It was pretty bare of essential. I mean, 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: I stand by my stance that it's the equivalent of 46 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: the penny. It needs to be getting rid of pick six. 47 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: I guess it's just some collateral damage along the way. 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes when you make important new legislation, people get hurt. Dan, Yeah, 49 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: apparently that that's heavy collateral damage. That losing pick six 50 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: great term, much better than interception return for a touchdown. 51 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: It was such a big game whatever. UM. Alright, so 52 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: big show today. This is our last show in Culver City, 53 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: California before we head to New York for Super Bowl 54 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: forty eight. The week leading up to super Bowl forty eight, 55 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: just a program reminder, we will be doing three shows 56 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: from New York slash New Jersey on Tuesday, Thursday, and 57 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: then Greg Sunday night and or Monday morning. We'll get 58 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: the podcast up for Monday morning as usual. Might be 59 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: a little later. It will be a little later than normal, 60 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: but we'll get it. We'll get it there. We're looking 61 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: forward to that. UM. As far as today's show, we're 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: gonna talk about coaches. We're gonna do kind of like 63 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: a coaching overview. Now that the Brown's job seems like 64 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: it might be in hand. By the time you listen 65 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: to it, it it might already be settled. We'll talk do 66 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: some Pro Bowl talk, We'll talk a little bit about 67 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: that draft yesterday, and we'll get Kevin Patrick on the phone. 68 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: And I also want to check in with Patrick to 69 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: see if he's found a friend yet on the roster. 70 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: But before we do that, let's hit the headlines, all right. 71 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: We'll start with the Browns, who are attempting to hire 72 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills defensive coordinator Mike Petton as their next head coach. 73 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: Apparently the offer is going out. Petton is supposedly interested 74 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: in the job, and it looks like Mark, after twenty 75 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: five days, you found your man. Well, you know, and 76 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: we talked about this on the last show a little bit. 77 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm happy with this decision, and I I kind of 78 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: feel like Cleveland uh stumbled into it. I'm not sure 79 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: they there's a sense that there was, you know, twenty 80 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: guys they wanted maybe more than Petting. But Patton, by 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: all accounts, is uh loved around the league as players 82 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: like him a lot. He's more of a players coach 83 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: than some of the guys they've had before, like Pat Shermer. 84 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: And I don't know. I you know, you look at 85 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: the whole list of guys who are hired this offseason, 86 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: and I take Petting over a big chunk of them. 87 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: To be honest, we're gonna get into that list, give 88 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: out some awards and a little bit, and we're rolling 89 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: the dice of it here when we're taping this podcast. 90 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: It's not official that Patton is the choice, but it 91 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: sure looks like by the time most people listen to 92 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: the podcast, it will be official. There should be an agreement. 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to get that out of the way, 94 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: that that's out there. But let's assume it is Patton. 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: The one thing that I'm interested in, who's the coordinator? 96 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: Who's the offensive coordinator? And to get hired, he must 97 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: have had a plan that they could buy because he 98 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: has no background in offense. See I I disagree that 99 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: he had a plan necessarily. I think he has a 100 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: lot of contacts and the ideas. But one issue, and 101 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: this is why I think Cleveland is not an attractive 102 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: landing spot to a lot of these other coaches that 103 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: got hired is that I'm not sure he has to 104 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: say over who his coordinator is what that's been out well, 105 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: but he they are crafting's part of the staff around him, 106 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: and that some of the people they've brought into higher 107 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: are for potential coordinator roles, not Patton's guys. There are 108 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: some good names out there to be a potential coordinator. Uh, 109 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: Dirk Cutter, you're thinking, might well laterally, who who would 110 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: these names? You can make him an assistant coach and 111 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: assist and head coach. And yeah, I'm not saying Tork 112 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: Cutter necessarily, but that's that the that he's the coach 113 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: has been foisted on him by Banner and Lombardy. That's 114 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: that's sounds like a great set up exactly, and it's 115 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: actually it's it's a big issue. And you know, one 116 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: thing that Chud faced all last season was decisions pressed 117 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: on him. He had very little autonomy. That's fair, that's 118 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: a problem, and that's one of the reasons they've been 119 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: about of the jokes the last couple weeks. And so 120 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: you are a factory of so many jokes, so many 121 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: bad jokes, terrible jokes. But in the end, I think 122 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: Petton looks on paper just as good as all these 123 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: other coaches. And more importantly, he is a great defensive mind. 124 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: Inheriting a great defensive roster, I think so. I think 125 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: it's a top ten roster just in terms of talent. 126 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: So they could be a very good defensive unit. And 127 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: then if you can get the right offensive coordinator, you're 128 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: starting off. If you watch the Pro Bowl Draft, a 129 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: lot of Brown's going off the board early. Joe Thomas, 130 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: Antise left tackle, Josh Gordon, the league leader in yards, 131 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: Jordan Cameron, he's a Pro Bowl tight end, Joe Hayden. 132 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean, even on offense, which struggled so badly, it's 133 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: not like they're the Jaguars or a lot of other 134 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: teams that don't have offensive talent. By the way, to 135 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: number one picks ten overall picks in more cap space 136 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: than uh, you know, four or five teams combined. In 137 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: some cases, we should we should email Lombardi. We got 138 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: his email address. Maybe we can join this winning staff. 139 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: Um two things. Even let's say worst case scenario, the 140 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: higher falls through moratorium on Twitter. People making the tweet, 141 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: I have withdrawn from consideration as the next Browns coach 142 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: seven hundred sports writers do it every twenty minutes. You know, 143 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: you don't have to get involved. A little stale at 144 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: this point. And then the other thing was, yes, we're 145 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: talking about petting like he's going to be hired. Had 146 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: an ex girlfriend that used to say to me, she 147 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: said this on ironically, if you're not living on the edge, 148 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: you're taking up too much space. So that's why we're 149 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: talking like it's where she's you know, she's out there. 150 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: I don't really need to get into the specifics of 151 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: my past relationships. I'd like to know it seems like 152 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: a fair criticism of you, though not really living on 153 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: the edge. Well, then I guess I'm taking up too 154 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: much space. Moving on, Brandon Jacobs, the longtime Giants running 155 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: back and for a short brief period of time the 156 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine is running back in two thousand twelve, 157 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: was on w f A N in New York this 158 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: morning and he had this to say about Jim Harbaugh. 159 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: He is a and that's why he hasn't won anything. 160 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: Mark Cesler, I ask you fair criticism, Well, look hold 161 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: on number one, Dan and I grew up listening w 162 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: f A N love w f N with all my heart, 163 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: but the mad Dog. The only mistake here was that 164 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: anyone cares what Brandon Jacob says about anything. You're talking 165 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: about a coach that took his team to the conference 166 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: title game three times in a row. He's a I 167 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: don't think, so we don't really have to defend Jim Harball. 168 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: I think really the only reason who has more sour 169 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: grapes wise than than Jacobs. Well, he he signed there 170 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: after the Giants won the second Super Bowl, and then 171 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: Hardball he got. He hurt his knee I remember in 172 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: the preseason, and then Hardball he came back and Harbor 173 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: was like, now we're cool. He got five carries for 174 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: seven yards and a suspension near the end of the year, 175 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: and then they released them in a way that he 176 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: couldn't sign with any other team before he came back 177 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: to the Giants about a year later. I think West, 178 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: if he were sitting here right now, would be irritated 179 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: because this is the season where we get athletes who 180 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: have done nothing on the field chirping off for the 181 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: next five months about stuff and it's absurd. Go back 182 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: to bed, Brandon Jacobs, get some more cold medicine, Mark Sessler, 183 00:09:55,559 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: he's fired up. I like I it's irritating storyline because like, 184 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: there is a guy, there's not a guy that works 185 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: harder than Jim Harbaugh. Ridiculous. Good job, Mark. Alright, this 186 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: next item is not even really news. It's what do 187 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: you what do you? What do you hold in your 188 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: hands up for? I don't know. I find it annoying 189 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: that Brandon Jacob spies will find us way into the 190 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: news cycle. Just go away. Tessla is like the nicest 191 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: guy you ever want to meet, but if you bring 192 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: up Jacob's name just turned into it. Well, we spent 193 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: all last offseason, you know, talking about him. I don't 194 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: know this. Does this go back to you losing that 195 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: drag race on the Garden State Parkway to Jacob's last summer? Maybe? Alright, alright, 196 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: moving on Jacob's. Jacob's was very rude to a friend 197 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: of mine at the Super Bowl in two thousand eight, 198 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: very nice young woman who asked a perfectly legitimate question, 199 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: and he treated her very rudely. So you might be 200 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: onto something. We gotta get him in the studio. Uh. 201 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: This next night in isn't really a news item, but 202 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: it is something that a lot of people are bringing up, 203 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: so I might as well throw it out there. Peyton 204 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: Manning is the only Super Bowl participant in next Sunday's 205 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: game that has a ring. That's really weird. How has 206 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: that ever happened before? I don't even know. How would 207 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: anyone know such things? Super Bowl one. This is a 208 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: good answer that this is the Super Bowl with the 209 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: fewest amount of players that have been in the Super 210 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: Bowl since four players have played in the Super Bowl 211 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: in this game. Peyton Manning of course as one one. 212 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: He lost one as well. Dominique ro Rogers Cromarty lost one, 213 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: Wes Welker has lost two, and Jacob Tammy lost one. 214 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: So they're all on the Bronco side. No Seahawks have 215 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: been to the Super Bowl. They're the first team since 216 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: the Bills to have no one on their roster. So, yes, Dan, 217 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: this is very, very rare. I think it says to 218 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: me what a a great job that Schneider and Carol 219 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: have done because they came in and they took a 220 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: pretty vanilla Seahawks team that I hadn't been to the 221 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl not that long ago, dismantled it, blew it up, 222 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: got all the old guys out and brought in a 223 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: lot of not just young players, but kind of outliers, 224 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: guys that other teams didn't value the same way they did, 225 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: didn't see the same way they did. Their team is 226 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: one of the more unique of all the thirty two, 227 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: and that's a major part of their battle cry. You'll 228 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: here Richard Sherman's already said it on multiple occasions, and 229 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: he'll say it all week as well. I'm sure several, 230 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: if not all, the Seahawks when they meet with the media, 231 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: how they believe to be overlooked their whole careers and 232 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: now they get a chance to It's pretty good motivation 233 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: as far as that goes, if you believe in that 234 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: kind of thing. It also points out when everyone's criticizing 235 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning for only having one Super Bowl ring, I mean, 236 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: he's the only one out of a hundred people, and 237 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: he's obviously the most important guy in the whole mix. 238 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 1: It's hard work. This is one of those uh storylines 239 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: that I like because it just means the Super Bowl 240 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: is fresh. These teams are fresh. They are the two 241 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: best teams in the league. They're playing outdoors, everything's new. 242 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: That's just good thing, and just another reason why no 243 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: one should have been rooting for Patriots Niners except except 244 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: for their fans. That's fair because that would have been 245 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: a much more tame Super Bowl week and everyone been there, 246 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: done that vibe. This is totally different. And get ready, Mark, 247 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: because you're gonna be there in New York. I will 248 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: be there. Mark is going to be are embedded Seahawks corresponding, Well, 249 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: you're talking about I actually find the Seahawks just personally 250 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: more interesting. So I'm I was very happy when you 251 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: gave me that task. I think there's a lot of 252 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: lot going on with that team and there and it 253 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: would you know, I agree with Danny go back into 254 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: the whole forty Niners thing. We did that well. Plus 255 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: you hate Jacob Tammy, so you couldn't pick him out 256 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: of anybody with Jacob anywhere in the name, couldn't pick 257 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: him out of a lineup. Totally false accusations. As always 258 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: for these two, it would be really painful for Welker 259 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: if he had another rough moment or another rough loss. 260 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: Don't you think I know that I'll be talked about 261 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: probably during the week. But maybe you should have caught 262 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: the ball in the last super a tough moment for 263 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. So it would be that would be interesting. 264 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: You're talking to game ending type drop or something, right, Yeah, 265 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: just something like that. I mean he's now been there, 266 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: he switched teams that worked out well, and now he 267 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: makes it back and if it doesn't work out again, 268 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: it's pretty He's had a pretty blessed football life since 269 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: the age of about He's earned it, alright. With grit 270 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, this is news from yesterday. Actually would start 271 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: if the Jets cut him, A coach says, and here's 272 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: the quote from our coach. We'd take Sanchez. He'd be 273 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: the starter as soon as he walked in the door 274 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: for us. So I ask you, gentlemen, who is the 275 00:14:54,600 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: wretched sorry team? Uh? That would start? Sanche as immediately 276 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: upon signing him. Who could? I have two quick ideas. 277 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: My first thought immediately went to Oakland. But what I 278 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: think is that it might be a coach with a 279 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: new team who hasn't been around with the old players there. 280 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: Are we assuming this is a head coach. No, I 281 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: think it's an assistant, right, That's what I would guess. 282 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: I think it might be the Vikings. They're starting over 283 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: at court, it's going to be a team that's Matt 284 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: Castle and that whole clown car of signal callers. I 285 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: feel like maybe it is someone from nearby Capella University, 286 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: which is near Mobile, Alabama. According to Google. In the 287 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: last thirty seconds, Mark Sanchez could side he could start 288 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: for that team. Some some college coaches, they're just hanging 289 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: out and they ask you surmise it's not even a 290 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: pro coach. If not a pro coach, it's just the 291 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: guy who wandered over to the Senior Bolt to watch 292 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: some great players in action. And he's like, oh, Sanchez 293 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: could start for me? Because what pro coach is possibly 294 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: saying that I I don't believe it. Well, it has 295 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: to believe it. It is it is. I think that's 296 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: why the story probably did well on our site, is 297 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: that it is an alarming uh comment from anyone who's 298 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: employed as a teacher in the NFL. Well, we cited 299 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: our friends up in Canada earlier in the podcast what 300 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: about because it's the only Canadian team I could think 301 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: of right now. Rob Ford's team, the Toronto Argonauts, sign 302 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez. He leads them all the way to the 303 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Gray Cup and what you can take the Gray Cup. 304 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: It's all in play back. Oh, so the world is 305 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: yours at that point, Warren Moon, Hello, was that the CFL? 306 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: I think you nailed that. He wanted multiple titles in 307 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: the Canadian Sanchise becomes the Sanchiz again in Canada. Back 308 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: to America. I'm not claiming that. I don't believe. I 309 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: don't believe someone said this. You think you believe it 310 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: was a made up. Give me the scenario that that 311 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: could be possible that I think it's a coach that 312 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: is familiar with the team he's with he's new. It 313 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: would have to be a coach that believed that's looking 314 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: to dray after quarterback, or a team is looking drought 315 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And this whoever this Jabroni is said, I 316 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't start a rookie immediately, so I need a guy 317 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: to come in and keep that guy's seat warm. So 318 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: the Texans, if it's a former offensive coach of the 319 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: Jets who feels burned by the whole way that went down, 320 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: or it's Sanchez's agent pretending to be a co and 321 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: see that makes sense. Dan, No, Sanchez's agent, I do 322 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: we have a good relationship. I wouldn't say good. Uh 323 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: what else? Oh, that's it for the news guys. Wow, 324 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: that's it for the Capella University. It's inmobile according to Google, 325 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: that's the coach. It exists. There you go. Interesting, it's 326 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: been cracked. The nut has been cracked. All right. So 327 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about the Browns and Mike 328 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: Petton most likely being the new coach. So downstairs we're 329 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: kicking around ideas for the podcast, and we decided, you know, 330 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: now that the Browns seems like it's settled and we 331 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: have the six other openings are now filled. There were 332 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: seven in positions, starting with the Texans making their firing 333 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: and then all the way through Black Monday and the 334 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: days afterwards. So now let's go through all the hires. 335 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: And a good way to we thought to kind of 336 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: frame this is give out some awards. So why don't 337 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: we start out because I really only want to do 338 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: is to talk negative about some people. But let's stay 339 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: positive to get going. And uh, Dan really was throwing 340 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: out five different categories of awards that we're all negative. 341 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: I was like, what are we just gonna trash every 342 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: single guy? He's like the worst coach who's going to 343 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,199 Speaker 1: have the shortest tenure, biggest bozo whose home will be 344 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: torched by week seven. That's exactly good fun. See listening 345 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: to wf an. That's how this stuff happens. Um, why 346 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: don't we start with the smartest higher slash best higher? 347 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: Open up the floor at smartest hire? Yes, Mike Simmer, 348 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: tell me why, Mark? I think that Mike Zimmer is 349 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer hired by the Minnesota but I think he's 350 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: ultra prepared for it. Uh. He was hired quickly enough. 351 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: You know where he's able. He's built a really good staff. 352 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,479 Speaker 1: He as Norv Turner as his offensive coordinator. That's not 353 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: his skills, So Turner, I think would be a great 354 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: addition there. I think this is a guy that players 355 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: want to play for. Other coaches definitely want to come 356 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: be a part of his staff. He's well respected. Uh, 357 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: the guy is fired up. He's got a chip on 358 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: his shoulder because he's been overlooked for decades. Zimmer's my choice. 359 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: I like Zimmer. I like Patton, but I feel that 360 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: I feel a little baked in if I picked Patton. 361 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: So I went to get a guy that's hungry and 362 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: ready to go and rising. I'm gonna pick two guys. 363 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: I like Patton and Lovey and less love. He qualifies 364 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: in some other categories. I know love he doesn't get 365 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: everyone excited, but he has a track record of success, 366 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: and I always want a head coach to bring something 367 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: to the table. If you bring something to the table, 368 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: then you have an edge overmost head coach is. And 369 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: he brings a defensive system and a huge rolodex of 370 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: contacts and a good staff with him to the table. 371 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: So I don't know if he can fix the offense, 372 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: but I think he can make them better. Good job, guys. 373 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: Let's move on to another one. The coach least likely. 374 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: These are almost like senior superlatives in high school with 375 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: no women, with no women involved, least likely to fire 376 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: up the fan base. Higher least likely to fire up. 377 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it's the worst hire. But Jim called, well, 378 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: he's not gonna get the Lions fans excited. I think 379 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: that's a fair answer because he was very down tempo, 380 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: kind of milk toast personality in Indie, replacing a coach 381 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: who was that way to some degree in terms of 382 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: not a controversial guy in Dungee, but Dungee one and 383 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: took you know Caldwell came in and did the Seafort thing, 384 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: got to the Super Bowl, lost that, then the floor 385 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: fell out, and I don't think he left with the 386 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, this guy seems fired up 387 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: to win, so maybe he's gonna called well. I think 388 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: I think he seemed You don't think he felt he 389 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: was sleeping on a put. I think he wants to 390 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: turn this image around and wants to show that. I 391 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: think he is prepared to do well. He was a 392 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: little fired up at the introductory press or. He was 393 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: quoting Chinese proverbs and the Bible, and that a lot 394 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: was articulate and well spoken. But I wouldn't say he 395 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: was on fire. He was. I still don't think he blinked. 396 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: He was fired up compared to well. You know why. 397 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: It's a good answer, though, because when the Lions job 398 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: came open, everyone just assumed, without even looking, this is 399 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: the best job out there. So by nature, you're going 400 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: to get the most exciting, best coach, and so where 401 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: you ended up is disappointing for a lot of those fans. 402 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: And I know Dan doesn't want us giving a million 403 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: answers to everyone, but I'm gonna do it. Anyways, anyone 404 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: that watched Jay Gruden's interviews after he was hired cannot 405 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: be excited. I mean his interview was with our network, 406 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: with ESPN, with just the press conference. I don't know. 407 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: He was not ready. He was not ready for the interviews. 408 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he's gonna be a bad coach, but he 409 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: seemed like his eyes were bugging out. He couldn't speak, 410 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: he couldn't look at the camera. He didn't seem ready 411 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: for as a friend. Hiring a friend is what that was. 412 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: To Gregory, you've done torpedoing our segment. Oh, let's do it. 413 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: Let's get to the next one. Okay. The next category 414 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: is the Shiano, which is an award that goes to 415 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: the coaching tenure most likely to flame out in excess. 416 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: I would go, I'm gonna go, and I'll keep it 417 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: short because Greg just said a lot of things. I 418 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: feel Gruden because I think, hey, that's a that's a 419 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: team that's willing to They have as many head coaching 420 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: hire since ninety is the Browns at seven. And if 421 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: that doesn't work quickly with r G three, with that 422 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: window that you have a quarterback, he will be gone. 423 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And Greg you're so that is that your pick? 424 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: You think for Aciana based on the track record, the 425 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 1: average Redskins coach stays there about two and a half years, 426 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: that would be a good pick. Based on the Browns 427 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: recent track record, Petton has to win right away to 428 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: the wild card. The thing I'd worry about is that 429 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: the whole if Petton doesn't work out in a year 430 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: or two, I don't think Banner and Lombardi get a 431 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: third swing at that. They definitely do not just get 432 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: flushed out. I'll throw one out there, Bill O'Brien. I 433 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: know he was the first guy off the board, and 434 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: he was a very popular pick. A lot of people 435 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: thought it was a great move. One thing that that 436 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: scares me and this isn't even really on him, it's 437 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: on the ownership Bob McNair. They seem to be under 438 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: the impression that all they need to do is change 439 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: this coach, draft a quarterback, and they will be twelve 440 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: and four next year. I think this roster is not 441 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: necessarily although it has some great pieces, is not primed 442 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: automatically for a bounce back season. I think expectations are 443 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: through the roof, and I don't know if O'Brien is 444 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: the elixir or some rookie quarterback to do that, and 445 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: then you need the owner has been famously patient. Um, 446 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 1: but who knows how he's gonna be reacting and that 447 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: we're going to win right now. That's not an easy 448 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: way to start your first head coaching job. All right, 449 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: how about the biggest surprise is hiring I. I, Well, listen, 450 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,719 Speaker 1: I mean with Patton. I think that guy came out 451 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: of complete left field. So that's a surprise because when 452 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland started their search, it was we're gonna go get 453 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna pull Saban out of the college ranks because 454 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: that's why we did this. I hope he gets hired. 455 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: By the way, well so do I. But let's you know, 456 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: this entire podcast is a little segment in time will 457 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: be torpedoed. This would be like the Super Bowl shirts 458 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: for the losing team that are worth a lot of 459 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: money after the fact. Or it doesn't go live. One 460 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: of the two, Yeah, pett and I go Petton. Most 461 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: surprise was most surprised at Jim called, well, I got 462 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: a job, especially that I totally agree, But can you 463 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: really pi former Well, you know, sometimes a former head 464 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: coach is even more surprising. So yeah, coming off the 465 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: season the Ravens had, you know, yeah, but you can't 466 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: scount what he did for them last year though. I 467 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: don't think they would have been to the super Bowl 468 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: if it weren't for him. So it's it's the two 469 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: sides of a coin. But you're right, that's it's a 470 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: good one. I'm also surprised, just taking the long view, 471 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: that Ken wizzen Hunt was the l of the ball 472 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: of this coaching crop. I would not have guessed that 473 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: in early November or last off season that when we 474 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: got around to this time, that wizzen Hunt was going 475 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: to be wanted by everyone. Well, this reminds me of 476 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: last year's draft quarterback class, where Whiz is essentially Geno 477 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: Smith and we're just going down from there. There's no 478 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: real sexy higher here, and we'll go and do a 479 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: coordinator job for one year and suddenly everyone forgets. Everyone's like, oh, 480 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: this guy knows how to teach quarter and he does, yes, 481 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: But then when you put him on a team with 482 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: no quarterbacks like the one he just inherited, we have 483 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: not seen him do that. He completely crumbled in Arizona. Plus, 484 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: he was once kicked off a Virgin Atlantic flight. Was 485 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 1: he I will Virgin apologize to Gino today, But as 486 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: they so, now I feel good again about my franchise's future. 487 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: What was the apology about. They said they shouldn't have dined. 488 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: I will read the apology real quick since we're here. Wow, 489 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: why not? After a full review of the incident, we 490 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: believe it was the result of a misunderstanding that regrettably 491 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: escalated unnecessarily. We've apologized to Mr Smith for his experience, 492 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: which could have been better, and we'd welcome him back 493 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: on board anytime there's an m dash in there by 494 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: the way. As an airline that prides itself on our 495 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: guest service, we take incidents such as this one very seriously. 496 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: Gino released a statement through the Jets. Really appreciate that 497 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: Virgin America took this seriously, looked into this matter, and 498 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: followed up with me. I look forward to flying their 499 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: airline again soon. What a nice story. That just shows 500 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: how Gino was with with that story that he got 501 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: all that to happen. But you got the franchise back. 502 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: They have good WiFi. I like the Virgin and land. 503 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: The Virgin is excellent. It is like a nightclub exactly, 504 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: and it's uh, I could see strange things happening on 505 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: was not planned and just happened to have that in 506 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: his image. When you go on Virgin you know you're 507 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: gonna have WiFi, you're gonna have some nice lighting in there. 508 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: The stewardest, well, they don't call them the attendance. They 509 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: don't mail it in like other airlines. You get assigned seats, 510 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: gold standards. Nodding his head back there. Yeah, no, I 511 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: thought they really don't mail it in. I have to 512 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: say that Southwest is an extraordinary job of sort of 513 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: being Virgin Light, I think, but they don't assign seats 514 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: that is to free for all young nightmare a young 515 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 1: attractive clientele. I would say, Yeah, the Southwest line thing 516 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: makes me very irritated. I feel like cattle. Yeah, alright, 517 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: moving on. Most likely to succeed not really that different 518 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: than smartest higher, is it? Uh? It's a bit redundant. 519 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: This is what you would call heat. Yeah, I mean 520 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: we don't need to Let's see if I'm gonna give 521 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: it up. Chip Kelly might have been the smartest hire 522 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: last year, he wasn't the most likely to succeed. I'm 523 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: gonna disagree, disagree with Dan, and I'm gonna give it 524 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: to Bill O'Brien because I like the organization. I think 525 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: you look at the top in the owner and you 526 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: look at a GM that's put some good pieces in 527 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: places over the years, and that gives the coach the 528 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: best chance long term and some patience. He's been patients. 529 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: I like this one is easy for me. I'm gonna 530 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: go love you Smith because Hey, this guy's battle tested, 531 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: he knows how to run a program, and he inherited. Frankly, 532 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: Siano is out of there because he didn't do not 533 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: unlike Cleveland's last coach. He didn't do enough with the 534 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: talent in place. And there's a lot going on with 535 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: Tampa's defense, his forte and then also on top of it, 536 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: they brought in Ted for to run that offense. I 537 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: don't think you've got you maybe have a quarterback there. 538 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: There's some issues. I agree with Sessler. I'm sneaky in 539 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: on Mike Lennon and I think Darrell Rivas is going 540 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: to be Rivas again next year, and he has a 541 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: coach that knows how to use him, and I think 542 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: that will make a huge difference on that defense. So 543 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna republish that Buccaneers playoffs. You know, lamb based 544 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: in by readers and podcast co host counterpoint coming. This 545 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: is a move I used back in Model Congress back. 546 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah love. He's in the NFC South, three great 547 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and that division, great division. My guy O'Brien in 548 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: the a f C South stinks, The Colts are uneven, 549 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: the Jaguars and Titans forget about him. Quicker roads, quicker roads. 550 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: That's fair, but it feels hollow. It feels like a 551 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: one year Hey, listen, you know what, Let's flatch onto 552 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: this guy from one year. Then the Jaguar's under goes 553 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: proudly developed, and then suddenly O'Brien he's not so doesn't 554 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: know what he's doing. Things start to crumble and chaos. 555 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: The world collapses in on itself. Greg's pick is wrong. 556 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: And finally, this is uh. This is an award that 557 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: kind of only the people in this room maybe truly 558 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: understand it, but I think everyone can relate because they 559 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: read the content. The Jim Harbaugh Award for the coach 560 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: that will be the biggest content provider for the Around 561 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: the League blog and conversation piece for this. It's a 562 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: great award. This was Greg's idea. Greg, you deserve the 563 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: creditst That's why I said it so great. Uh. I 564 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a lot of fun, good bad. 565 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: It'll be fun. He's gonna give quotes. He's gonna get 566 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: mad at quarterbacks, He's gonna get mad at other coaches. 567 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: He's a live wire. I think Gruden because I think Gruden, 568 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: if things start to go ugly, as I predict, is 569 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: a guy who could be completely unhinged. He's got that 570 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: Gruden gene in him where he's just gonna speak his mind. 571 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: And it's the Redskins too, which just naturally is gonna 572 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: get covered see a lot of issues. I think Gruden. 573 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: I think Zimmer. This is why, By the way, the 574 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: Bengals Hard Knocks season, which I thought was about a 575 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: B plus, maybe could have been even better with better players. 576 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: It was a little flat with A J. Green and 577 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton in terms of people that you latch onto 578 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: and narrative wise for the show. But the coaching staff 579 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: forget about Marvin Lewis, but the coordinators was great TV. 580 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: And you name both of the coordinators to the Bengals 581 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: last year, and I think Ruden will be interesting even 582 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: if they do well. I think he would be kind 583 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: of animated off the wall if they'd go off the 584 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: rails even better. Ken wizzing On wins the award for 585 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: the least number of awards, which is it's so funny too, 586 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: because he went to the Titans, who might be the 587 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: most nondescript franchise in the NFL right now. Well, and 588 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: you hear that he went there because he liked the 589 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: laid back South. He liked the fact that it wasn't 590 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: a team like Detroit that he had felt pressure to 591 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: win right away. That's not what I want to hear 592 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: from my coach, just throwing that out there. I want 593 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: my guy. If my team's in Mongolia, I want to 594 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: be in Mongolia because I want to build a champion. Right. 595 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: This isn't a a retirement, you know, a step towards retirement. 596 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: I want to be closer to my cousins so I 597 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: could drink on the weekends. It's like, what is this is? Alright, 598 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: It's time to get Kevin Patra, the Chicago correspondent for 599 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: Around the League, who's actually right now in Hawaii for 600 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. He was yesterday Johnny on the spot 601 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: for the first ever Pro Bowl Draft, which is a 602 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: thing that happened in society, and now he is on 603 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: the line, Kevin Patrick coming at you. That's going on, Fellas, 604 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: how did it feel the witness history? It was crazy 605 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: to be part of history. Let's be honest. Yeah, I'm 606 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: not gonna gonna lie. It was mainly about me. It 607 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: was a little bit about the player, but so it was. 608 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: It was. It was great take us through the scene 609 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: because h as Greg alluded to earlier, I did the 610 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: live blog, but I did it in an office space. 611 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: You were on the site. I know there was a 612 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: big white tent where all the players were huddled eating 613 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: and drinking while um Chris Rose and then the captains 614 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: and Sanders and Rice picked the players. What was the 615 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: scene like under that tent or the guys into it 616 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: where they jovial? What was what was going on? It 617 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: was one of those things where it like just kind 618 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: of escalated. Like at first, you know, a couple of 619 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: guys were in there were just you know, kind of mellow. 620 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: The PR people were keeping you know, media bay, and 621 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: then as more guys got in there, it was just 622 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, a free for all. It was just guys 623 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: wandering around taking pictures. They're you know, tweeting, doing all 624 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: their crazy stuff like have interviewing. I mean, and any 625 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: guy I went up to was happy to talk. They 626 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: were having a great time. I will not I can't 627 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: tell you how much was imbibed, but it was. I 628 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: think they were having a pretty good time in this area. 629 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: I won't say who the player was, but Patrick did 630 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: tell me via I AM yesterday that a well known 631 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, I think Patrick's exact word was wobbled past 632 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: him at one point. Yes, he wobbled towards the restroom. 633 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: Have you made any friends? That was Dan's challenge to you, 634 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: to make one friend. I have not made any personal friends. 635 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pretend. What crew. What 636 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: about the long Snappers? They seem like they are primed. Also, 637 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: the Kickers kind of seem like laid back bros. I 638 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: don't know that they have the putter. The putters are 639 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: pretty well in there with the fit, with the with 640 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: the guys. Hecker from the RAMS was pretty much hanging 641 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: out with every crew yesterday. Really, if it makes you 642 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: feel better, don't underestimate the punters. It makes you feel better, Kevin, 643 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: I haven't made any friends for like a decade. I'm 644 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: not I'm not joking. Who makes friends after your twenty 645 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: five years old? It pretty much stops some people. Wait, Kevin, 646 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: are you the guy who's alone at the Oaken bar 647 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: at like one am, like Don Draper sitting there nursing 648 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: a drink with it with zero uh anyone to hang 649 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: out with you and to speak with you, and then 650 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: getting like a couple of I wouldn't be I wouldn't 651 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: say I'm alone. Um, you know you can add your 652 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: way into this. I I'm not gonna lie. I had 653 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: a I listened to one player and his friend argue 654 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: over who could beat each other in a forty the 655 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: other day. Um, at the bar, it was pretty I'm 656 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: glad that other other people's friends have those kind of conversations, 657 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: especially one as a superior athlete and the smaller guy 658 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: who has no chance still thinks he has a chance. 659 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: Ten beers in Why didn't they re enact Rocky three 660 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: and do the beach run with an awkward hug in 661 00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: the water afterwards? I was it was pouring rain. M interesting, Kevin, 662 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: rate the level of annoyance from the players who got 663 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: left until the end of that draft that got stuck 664 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 1: around and no one wanted to pick them, I think. 665 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you could tell on the stage 666 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: at the end with Nick boles And and Alex Smith 667 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: that they were just pretty much over the process. It was. 668 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a long time. I think for 669 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: the guys in the green room, especially the earlier and 670 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: were just wandering around, even food and all that. I 671 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: think they didn't you know, I think they they is 672 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: still pretty I mean, everyonely booked right after, so I 673 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: think three hours is a little bit long, especially for 674 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: the guys at the end. Yeah. It's one. It's one 675 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: thing to be sitting back there that whole time, but 676 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: then they get called up. These guys late in the 677 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: process get called up, and then Chris Rose sticks a 678 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: mic in their face and it's like, how does it 679 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: feel to be assigned to Team Sanders. It's like, what 680 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: the hell are they supposed to say to that. I 681 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: don't understand. Cam Wake seemed genuinely annoyed that he wasn't 682 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: drafted or the whole process. I think Alex Smith is 683 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: gonna use this as a form of motive vation, like, really, 684 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: you're taking nick Folds over me, I'm still disrespected after 685 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 1: all this. And then yeah, and then Alex Smith is Mr. 686 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: Not so irrelevant, as Chris Rose puts it. You can 687 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,919 Speaker 1: just look at Alex Smith's face and he's like, why 688 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: am I here? What? What is this format? I Am 689 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: never coming back to this event. Like Josh Gordon asking 690 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: if there's a supplemental draft? That was I like that? 691 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: Actually as humorous, sky well spoken. You spoke to rievous 692 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: Kevin Patra right for a while, for a while, you 693 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: got some goodies. What did he have to say? Well, 694 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: I mean he talked about how you know, I you know, 695 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: clearly asked Hi about a season. He said he was 696 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: actually surprised he being even in the Pro Bowl, which 697 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: I found interesting considering I think we would all agree 698 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: that he was one of the at the end of 699 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: the season one still one of the best cornerbacks. So 700 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: he doesn't think that he played all that well this season, 701 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: to be frank. Uh. And then you know, I talked 702 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: about the of course, the Richard Sherman stuff, and you know, he, 703 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: of course, like every cornerback, he made the point that 704 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, we all think we're the best cornerback in 705 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: the league. So, um, you know, it was a good conversation. 706 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: He's pretty uh open about everything. The difference now though, 707 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: And I noticed that's the first thing that came to 708 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: mind as a Jet fan was when Sherman made a 709 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: similar boast a year ago that he was the best. 710 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: I remember Reeves piped in on Twitter and he's, you know, 711 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: basically check yourself. But a lot of people sided with Reevis. 712 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: Now it's like everyone kind of seems to be saying 713 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: Sherman is the man now and that back in that secondary. 714 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: So you wonder, Reeves I was talking earlier about having 715 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: a huge two thousand fourteen, You wonder if that's just 716 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 1: more motivation for that guy to be a monster this 717 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,720 Speaker 1: year or next year. Well, I think I would definitely 718 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: agree with that. I'm sorry, we're at an air Force 719 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: space and I guess points taken off around me. Uh um, yeah, 720 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean I think I definitely got that sense. Like 721 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: he said, you know, he wasn't he never felt like 722 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: he was this this year, So I think, you know, 723 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: he feels like once the office he gets to pull 724 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: off season. He seemed to be uh you know, he 725 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: said he hadn't talked to love Smith yet. But he's 726 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: he seems like he's gonna have no problem with that defense. 727 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: He said he'll do it. He'll do whatever they're asking too, 728 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: So we'll see, alright, Kevin Patra, thank you very much 729 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: for giving us these uh this great correspondence. I I 730 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: heart from the bottom of my heart. I want you 731 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: to to make this friend and then when we talk 732 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: during Super Bowl week next week, you will share a 733 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: tale with us. I'm working on a right. It's Kevin Patrick. 734 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: He was coming at you. You really want him to 735 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: find a companion. I do. I mean I think when 736 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: I say you, I mean all of us. It's like 737 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: it feels like he's on the outskirts because you're in Hawaii, 738 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: but you're not with anyone, and it's a big bonding 739 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: experience for all the people that you're covering. But then 740 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: you're alone. Someone else there must be alone, right justin Houston. 741 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone. I know. There's a lot of 742 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: chiefs there, chiefs, there's seven chiefs. But he always he's 743 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: more of a quiet contemplate of guy. I think him 744 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: and Patrick would get along. Um punch drunke g love again. 745 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 1: By the way, there's so many parallels to this great movie. 746 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: By the way, it is um okay, quickly, before we go, 747 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: we have an entire week next week where we're just 748 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: gonna go crazy with Super Bowl talking. We're gonna have 749 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: West back with us. We all can't wait to have 750 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: West back in the mix. But before we go today, 751 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: we wanted to touch on a little bit about the 752 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: two teams, the Broncos and Seahawks, and Greg Rosenthal, the Boss. 753 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: You actually went back and watched these two teams play 754 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: in the preseason in Week three of the preseason, which 755 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: of course is the week where the starters are on 756 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: the field the longest, and it'd be interesting to get 757 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,399 Speaker 1: the takeaway from the Boss and what he saw when 758 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: he rewatched that game. People will discount this that it 759 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: was the preseason, but this was the most intense preseason 760 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: game I've ever seen, and I remember, and I went 761 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: back to my notes, I wrote that down at the 762 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: time back in August. I mean, the Bobby Wagner was 763 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: blitzing every third down. The crowd was going crazy. There 764 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: were a lot of big hits, So I think there 765 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: were some takeaways. The Broncos had no trouble moving the ball. 766 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: They made some big mistakes. But one of the things 767 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: I took away was Dmarrius Thomas and Richard Sherman. And 768 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: it's one play where he had a jump ball and 769 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman couldn't do anything with it. Thomas it's just 770 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: too big. He jumps over him, makes the play. Obviously, 771 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: the teams have changed quite a bit in the meantime, 772 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: but I thought there were interesting takeaways. And even though 773 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: the score was imbalanced by the end, the Broncos did 774 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: not have any problem moving the ball. I think that 775 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: came also, if I'm not a mistaken trendon Holiday, busted 776 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: free ye yard return up for a touchdown maybe, but 777 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: he broke free. They called it back actually happy and 778 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: there were there are a couple of long returns by 779 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: the Seahawks as well. You know, back then Russell Wilson 780 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: was hitting his deep ball. That's a little different than 781 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: the last few weeks when they weren't. I thought that, 782 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, the physical Seattle corners, they're gonna give you 783 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: a chance to make plays, you know, one on one. 784 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: Whether it's Sherman back then it was Browner, Now it's 785 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: Maxwell and Cam Chancellor and Denver did a good job 786 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: hitting some plays up the middle. I think if you're 787 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: gonna beat this Seattle defense, it's gonna be against Jeremy 788 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: Lane and Cam Chancellor in the middle of the field. 789 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 1: So that puts a lot of it on Julius, Thomas 790 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: and Welker. And if there's anything we know about Peyton Manning, 791 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: he's going to know exactly where the soft spots are. 792 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: And and this defense is so good they know that. 793 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: What Manning knows that it will be interesting to see 794 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: how they try to combat that. Not just another reason 795 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: why this is such an amazing matchup. I don't think 796 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: he's going to study that hard for this game. Man, 797 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna finally kind of be like I think I 798 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: banked enough foot off the pedal. I've got this. Enjoy 799 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: the moment. Let's just go to t J Fridays with 800 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: Eli and his wife all week, some Sabarrows, get some 801 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: real New yorkizza. Um all right, So yes, we will 802 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: get into the game and in depth starting on Tuesday, 803 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: which will be from New York. We will be at 804 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: the Media Center. I believe doing it live will have 805 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: gold standard. You will not be with us, unfortunately, no, 806 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: sad sadly not, but you will be in our thoughts. 807 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 1: Unjust catch you guys on TV. It's We're on t 808 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 1: V alright. So until then, this is Dan Hanson signing 809 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: off for The Sizzler. The Boss the Gold Standards Behind 810 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: the Glass West will be back next week and we 811 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: will be in New York, so until Tuesday