1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Bardo hands, do some Mr Fancy Fans. The plans need 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: in the film needs is the chance. It's a t 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: L round like a flame, boys, pig skins hot tonight, 4 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody, How are you today? Welcome to the 5 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, A t L to make Club Takeover. 6 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Dan Hans is here along with longtime partner podcast partner 7 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. What's up? Mark? How are you? I mean, listen, 8 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: this is the only way to handle this show. You think, Oh, 9 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: Gregg and West are on their little vacation to the 10 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Carolinas and Georgia. Have a nice time with yourselves island 11 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: to tie the island that we would that we would 12 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: probably out of fear in terms of running the whole show, 13 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: have to stack the room with other guests, you know, 14 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: people down from the New No, no, no no, it is 15 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: the two of us. It is the two of us 16 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: and nobody else's fearless, fearless and uh yeah you heard 17 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: that at the very top of a little nod there 18 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: to Mike and the Mad Dog of w F a 19 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: n fame. I grew up in New York, Mark, you 20 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: spent many years in Connecticut, and uh, I for one, 21 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,279 Speaker 1: and I think you agree, Mark would not be sitting 22 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: here now doing this if it weren't for the Fan, 23 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: which is New York's sports talk radio station. Uh so, 24 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: maybe in honor of it just being the two of us, 25 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: a little Mike and the mad Dog type show on 26 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: this beautiful Friday in uh southern California. The only way 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: to do it. I mean, yeah, I I think that 28 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: there were flocks of young men, uh back in the day, 29 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: all my friends. I would literally listen to Mike and 30 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: the mad Dog the entire show every day and then 31 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: just keep f A on f N on in my 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: room all night long, waking up at like three in 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: the morning to Posso our New Jersey Devil's updates Islanders Rangers. 34 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's no reason we would be here 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: without them. I hope A W F A N. Please 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: don't come at us for the musical rights there. We're 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: just doing you a solid. Yeah. Well, we'll see how 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: that plays out. And uh yeah, Mike and the Mad 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Dog one to six thirty and then uh during drivetime 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: and then as a Jet fan and it was especially 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: cathartic and um uh after Sunday nights. Joe ben Ingo, 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: who is a die hard Jets fan would do the 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: overnight shifts, and if you were Jet fan, that was 44 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: the place for Catharsis because you would lay in bed 45 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: at night and I would have school the next morning, 46 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: but I would wait for him to come on at 47 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: one uh and then listen to him Bemoan whatever failure. Uh, 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: Gang Green had gone through hours earlier and he became 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: That kind of made Beningo's career. Now he's working day 50 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: shifts for fan, but UH, for me, that's a major 51 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: part from an NFL perspective of the fan is job 52 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: and then go overnight. He won that job off a contest. Correct. 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: And I mean the one thing about did you ever 54 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: call into Mike and the Mad Dog or any of these? 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I did a couple overnight calls, but never never called 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: the Big Show. I often because you could. It's I 57 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: think I got into Mike and the mad Dog once. Um, 58 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: and it was to ask a rumor. I had a 59 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: friend at the time named John Powers, and I and 60 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: I we were in his basement. I said, let me 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: get on Mike and the Mad Dog here and I said, guys, 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: I'm very wasn't easy to get through. Oh no, you're 63 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: weight you're online for like an hour and forty five minutes, um, 64 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: and it's long distance calls back then. And I basically asked, 65 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: mad Dog, you know, I'm hearing hot rumors out of 66 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland that this guy John Powers has taken over as 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator of the Browns. I'm gonna hang up and 68 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: listen to your thoughts on this. And they were totally 69 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: baffled and had no idea where to go with it 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: because they were NFL guys, but they weren't Like the 71 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: scenery was different back then. You didn't have anything to 72 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: log on too and find out who this guy was. Like, 73 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: I got nothing on this John Powers character. So I'm 74 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: surprised you didn't get told off, you know, Francis that 75 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: you lost and you didn't get a hang up, But 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: I as you got off before I could get ugly. Yeah, 77 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean they dispatched of the they quickly went to 78 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: the next caller. You know, there was they had no 79 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: content to offer, So you disrespected the show that we're 80 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: speaking so highly of. Basically, Yeah, now that I think 81 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: about it, Uh, yes, that probably that probably is true. Um. 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: All right, So with that out of the way, Mark 83 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: is going on vacation beginning. Uh, at the end of 84 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: this podcast, I believe you might already be there emotionally, uh, Mark, 85 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: and you are you doing anything during your time? I 86 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: know that the myth building of the last couple of 87 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: weeks and months is that I'm, you know, right on 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: a plane heading somewhere uh you know nice, and I'm 89 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: doing literally nothing. Literally it is. It is not only 90 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: a staycation, it's one where you know, because as a 91 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: data of my own little personal bank account that is 92 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: and I and little is the operative word where I 93 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: can go do things like even that is so far 94 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: down in the dredges that it's like, I'm not even 95 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: sure what we're I'll be going. I'll be going into 96 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: like grocery stores and buying like a cent like loaf 97 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: of French bread to eat all day. So a staycation 98 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: or you because sometimes you do weird things, and I'm 99 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: gonna call them weird because I don't know anyone who's 100 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: ever done that, things like staying at a hotel within 101 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: the town where you live, things of that and anything 102 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: like that, cooking just to get away. I'm looking into. 103 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking into that now that comes with the various 104 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: One of my favorite Mark things ever, it comes with 105 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: a little bit of of of negotiation. But when you 106 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles and you don't essentially do anything 107 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles because we we really don't like you, 108 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: kind of could go twelve miles from here into Hollywood 109 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: and feel like you're in a different That's one way 110 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: to do it. Um. But if you ever want to 111 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: do like a a t N podcast history tour through 112 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: Culver City, the travel lodge across the street from the 113 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: our famous watering hole, uh, the cozy in Mark Sessler's 114 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: stayed at that track I have I have, you know, 115 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: one of my favorite things. I have done that and 116 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: there are reasons there. Yes, we don't need to dig 117 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: into that, but it was a very nice place to stay. 118 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: You're a fascinating man. Mark on today's edition. Thank you, 119 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: Ben on today's edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. Yes, 120 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: it's just Mark and I, Greg West, the Paramore, the 121 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: big Fish, Evan Silva, all Tybee Island off the coast 122 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: of Georgia. So we'll try to track them down, uh 123 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: and see if they're doing okay and if West is 124 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: fulfilling his promise he made to me. I don't know 125 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: if he ever made a promise, but I'm gonna ride 126 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: with it that way that he will get Gregg into 127 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: some trouble. I mean, we've seen some photographic evidence out 128 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: there that Greg at least um enjoyed one small glass 129 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: of red wine. That's the evidence that we have at 130 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: this point. Maybe much more has happened, right And in 131 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: honor of our Mike and the Mad Dog Team Friday show, 132 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: we'll be taking callers from you, the listeners of our 133 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: fine show here. Uh so we'll take callers later on. 134 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, a little light on 135 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: the news. But there was one big announcement. Uh oh yeah, 136 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: and you know what that is. Let's out of that 137 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: so big. I love that. It's orchestral, it's it gets 138 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: a point, that gets the point across that football is 139 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: a man's sport. But you know what, and lindsay, old 140 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: Gray could be enjoyed by everyone, including women. How to 141 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: take myself out there? That's true. I did. And ladies 142 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: can play too if you give him a chance. I 143 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: put a lady at fullback I've met I've met some 144 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: some women who would make for great fullbacks and other 145 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: positions of skill as well. All Right, I dug out it. 146 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Let me hear that song again though. All Right, So 147 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns after really what felt like years of 148 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: rumors or I want to call it wish casting. Wish 149 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: casting because it's not like everybody wants to see the 150 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: Browns UH in a five part mini series. But it 151 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: always made sense that the Browns would be a good 152 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: narrative arc to follow for the storytellers of um NFL 153 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: films an HBO because of the Greek tragedy aspect of 154 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: the organization post UH post their relaunch, and also there's 155 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: always a fresh start with the Browns every couple of years, 156 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: and obviously we're in the middle of one right now. 157 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: But this year, especially Mark and you, as the resident 158 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: Browns fan, UM, I know that this probably feels like 159 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: of all the years, And maybe the Johnny Manzelle summer 160 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: would have been fun too, because there's so much excitement 161 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: around Johnny football, even though it turned out horribly, But 162 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: this feels like a good year for the cameras to 163 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: be coming to the Berea Complex. Yeah, the timing is right, 164 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: and I feel like there are people inside the Browns 165 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: building that wanted to do this in other years, and 166 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: it would have been like, oh, you're coming off like 167 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: a five and eleven season. We get it, you're not 168 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: a successful franchise. But somehow the timing and HBO's patients 169 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: and the whole combination of it brought us the peak 170 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: year to come off of. I mean, the chance that 171 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: you get to chronicle a team that one zero games 172 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: last season and one one the year before. It's never 173 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: going to get this bad ever again. So I think 174 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: the timing is fascinating. Also because of what's happened during 175 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: this offseason, there's a lot of new faces. A guy 176 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: like John Dorsey in the general manager spot did not 177 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: want to do this at all. I think Hugh Jackson 178 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: probably does because we saw it was pretty good with 179 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: the Bengals. And for him, I mean, his reputation is 180 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: somewhat in tatters at this point. If he can pull 181 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: off a bit of a p O V shift where 182 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: you can say I'm not the guy you think I 183 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: am over the course of five weeks, that is a 184 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: huge win for him. The risk is there too, though 185 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: for this team. Well, he was very interesting because when 186 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: he was the O C and Cincinnati back in when 187 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: they had a hard knocks season. Uh, he came off 188 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: so well, and I and I know we talked about 189 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: it on this podcast. Um, I'm sure looked at Hugh 190 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: was a guy that was a fast riser in the 191 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: industry and maybe a future head coach, and sure enough 192 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: he became one now one in thirty one and two years. 193 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: And I think it somewhat of a surprise to me 194 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: still that Hugh survived Owen sixteen. So now he gets 195 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: the opportunity and we get to see on the ground 196 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: floor how he kind of approaches what really is his 197 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: last rodeo. I mean, because you're not gonna get another 198 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: head coaching job if it doesn't work out. Very hard 199 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: to get hired three times. He already got fired in Oakland. 200 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: If he gets fired by Cleveland, it's probably back to 201 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: uh staff position as an O C. And I think 202 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: that's gonna be fascinating to watch Hugh with all that pressure, 203 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: because two years ago, on this very show Hard Knocks, 204 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: we saw another coaching career end. It was Jeff Fisher's, uh, 205 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: he'll never be a head coach again, and you saw 206 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: how things could go poorly. But now Hugh does get 207 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: a chance, and we get a front row seat. Yeah, 208 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: an improbable one and you want to find out because 209 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: these NFL players, I don't think that it's easy to 210 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: assume that Hugh Jackson has the room at this point. 211 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: Now they're so young that some of them are new 212 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: to Hugh Jackson. But if you're two years into this, 213 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: like he's got to somehow win this team over again. 214 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: And yet I don't even know if he's the a 215 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: storyline in this because when you have not only Tyrod Taylor, 216 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: but also of course Baker Mayfield, you don't have just 217 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: one quarterback to center this show on. You have both 218 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: and with Mayfield, and I think that you know, you 219 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: wrote about this yesterday and you and you put it 220 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: well that in the in New York, the Jets just 221 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: took Sam Donald, who looks like you went into a 222 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: lab and created the perfect looking first overall pick and 223 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: Sam donaldranchise quarter with with you know and you and 224 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: you know how to scout this. He has ideal hair, 225 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: he has insanely ideal hair for a quarterback, and it's 226 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: exactly the guy you would think, except they go with 227 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and right away Cleveland took. I thought a 228 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: perception hit from a lot of people, a lot of 229 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: people that don't even watch college football that just say 230 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: why did you go Baker Mayfield over Donald? Well, it's 231 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: an opportunity for Baker Mayfield, who I don't think we'll 232 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: shy away from this. He's at his own reality series 233 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: already to show why. I don't like that. I don't 234 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, it was you did not you 235 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: really never saw this he I mean, it's not going 236 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 1: on now, I think, but it's it was. It was 237 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: a lead up to the draft. I'm just I'm just 238 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: gonna put up a red flag. But that's exactly the thing. 239 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: That's there's all these things about Baker Mayfield that people say, 240 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: oh I don't like this or that or that story 241 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: or that anecdote. He's another person with an opportunity to say, 242 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: here's why they took me number one. Forget the guy 243 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: with the good hair. Yeah, I think he's gonna well, 244 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: calm doubt that. But I think I'm dead on point 245 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: with that. I think that Mayfield will be something that's 246 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: exciting to watch just because or fun to watch exciting 247 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: feels strong because he is a charismatic guy, seems to 248 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: have a sense of humor. Obviously, um is a very 249 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: confident individual, so he would be a guy I think 250 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: would be fun to track through the four or five 251 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: weeks of the training camp. Um. And one person that's 252 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: back too that I'm excited about is everybody's favorite Me 253 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: and Uncle, Greg Williams back like, uh, you know, like 254 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: a villain in a horror movie. Just when you think 255 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: he's dead, he's back. He was on the Rams two 256 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: years ago as the d C just bummed everybody out, 257 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: just screaming at everyone all the time. Just basically exactly 258 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: what you thought Greg Williams might be like in real 259 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: life is exactly what Greg was and uh and it 260 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: gets fired by the Rams after a miserable uh tenure 261 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: there lands at the Browns. This is second year in 262 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland now, so we get more of America's Me and 263 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: Uncle and I'm looking forward to seeing him scream at 264 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: twenty one year old. Yeah, I think he's not changed 265 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: at all, So you're gonna get that. And and then 266 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: on the flip side, you have Todd Haley, who is 267 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: not known to be I mean, I think, you know, 268 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: not the most pleasant staff. No, it isn't. And it's 269 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: like it's kind of an everywhere you look. On top 270 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: of it, you have the owner in Jimmy has l 271 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: M and d Haslm his wife that they've taken NonStop 272 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: political and you know, public hits for all the stuff 273 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: that's gone on with the team everywhere you look someone 274 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: So this has been a terrible team for their entire time, 275 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: deservedly deservedly. So so it's like I think either like 276 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be kind of I think we're gonna 277 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: know within two weeks. You know this is going to 278 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: very well for the Browns and there's a lot at 279 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: stake here, or it's not. And you made it. I 280 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: asked you, like before the show if you thought it 281 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: was important that they come out looking good, and you're 282 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: an interesting answer which you can get to. But I 283 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: just think it's a little bit of a different pressure 284 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: on a team like Cleveland then when you dip in 285 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals or the New Orleans Saints or 286 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys for the eighteenth time on Hard Knocks. Um. 287 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: I think that Hard Knocks is a show that all 288 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: football fans should watch, but not all football fans watched, 289 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: So there will be a segment of football fans that 290 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: will remember everything that happens in these shows and carry 291 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: with them as a fan experience and it forms opinions, 292 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: but I think for most people it's all kind of forgotten. 293 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: Like I really enjoyed the Buck season last year, and 294 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: I thought they were really likable and fun and looked 295 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: like a team that was going in the right direction. 296 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: And then they laid a huge egg and he almost 297 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: felt a little bit annoyed by them. But most people 298 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: don't even remember that the Bucks were the hard knocks team. 299 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: I think the Browns, uh, you know, we'll see it. 300 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: Could could they end up looking really bad? If if 301 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: things probably, but maybe not. This is an NFL Films production. 302 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: I think fans like you, Mark, especially you, you're kind 303 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: of a unique fan from my experience around sports. Damaged. 304 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: You are well damages one word, but you're You're sensitive 305 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: to the criticism the Browns get and you see this 306 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: as a potential target situation. It's kind of as a fan, 307 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: a type of fan you are. I feel like it's 308 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: a high risk, high reward type star turn for them. Um. 309 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: But I my my advice to is like, don't get 310 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: too caught up in that because people forget what's the season. Honestly, 311 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: part of me because the one thing that's embarrassing about 312 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: um rooting, as you know for a bad team, but 313 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: even one in New York is different than Cleveland because 314 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: the league last year had in rightly so had no 315 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: issue just burying them at one pm Eastern from week 316 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: one through Week seventeen with no interruption that they're not 317 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: on prime time. They're a team that people, when they 318 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: think about it, it's one of the most embarrassing runs 319 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: in professional sports history what they've gone through. And I 320 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: think by the nature of working in sports, especially working 321 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: just where it's all football, I'm way more sensitive to 322 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: it because even in May, like I'm on a chat 323 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: room all day long with co workers where every time 324 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: the Browns comes up, it's like everyone's just taking shots NonStop, 325 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like I can take shots at them, 326 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: I can be angry at them, but well enough with 327 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: everyone else doing it all the time. I'm the same 328 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: way with like h and I just went to because 329 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: I'm an insane person. My seventeen YouTube concert You two 330 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: is a tremendous night two Nights ago, tremendously famous, popular band, 331 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,479 Speaker 1: but they also have an incredibly high number of detractors 332 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: that hate Bono or just sick of you two after 333 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: all these years. Like and when I'm talking to a 334 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: YouTube fan, we could say like, oh, we hate the 335 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: Bono did this, or I hate this album, or they 336 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: don't make they're old now, they can't make good music. 337 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: But it's one some bozoh that just hates you too 338 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: because they think Bono talks too much or something is 339 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: just throwing shade at you two. They're like, back off 340 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: by You're not allowed absolutely, although you are allowed, but 341 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: it just annoys me a little bit more. I like 342 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: to talk with people that are like minded. I don't 343 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: like I like to be closed off from society only 344 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: people that are like me. Mark, Yes, that's uh yeah 345 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: that that that says a lot about your exploratory nature 346 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: in relationship. So um so they go Hard Knocks. It 347 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: starts in August seven, five episodes. It should be good 348 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: and one other thought I had. I just thought of this, 349 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: and I think it's a great idea. And I do 350 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: have a good relationship with the Hard Knocks people because 351 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: I've been writing the episode recaps for years on this website. 352 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: Now is as we all know, the Browns Training complex 353 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: is built on an ancient Indian burial ground. This is 354 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: not confirmed, but just not Triple source. That nobody's not 355 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: triple source. But no one has ever come out and said, no, 356 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: that's actually not true, whether it be the Browns or 357 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: the League or even you. Let's be fair. No, I'm 358 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: from Barria, Like, that's where I grew up. It's not 359 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: the imburial ground. Well guess what she has confirm it's not. 360 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 1: I know all about the history my grandparents. Okay, okay, 361 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what someone from Brea would say. Think 362 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: about that, of course, like oh no, no, no, why 363 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: would you Why would you want that Outcome to our tourists, 364 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, see our different sites. We're not haunted. But 365 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is in the in the event that 366 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: you're wrong, lindsay or you're covering for your town, uh send. Like, 367 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: do they still do that show ghost Hunters? I mean, 368 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: if they don't do that show, they do another twelve 369 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: versions of that show across Cable two in the morning. 370 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: Just go in there, get out your little ghostbusters, uh 371 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: phantom meters, and you dig around and then put it. 372 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: Make it the season finale. I like it a lot. 373 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: The entire final show would just be that of Hard 374 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: Knocks all right, So hard knocks coming up in August, 375 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: looking forward to that. All right, before we get to 376 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: the callers, let's let's let's make a phone call and 377 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: try to track down Greg Rosenthal, Chris Westling, the big Fish, 378 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: Evans Silva, the Paramore, perhaps Tiffany Blackman. There have been 379 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: rumors that Blackman's involved with all this. Uh. Let's start though, lindsay, 380 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: if you could help us out with the phones. Out 381 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: of phone work, Lindsay, who used to work for a 382 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: radio station? So this is good, Rips. Let's call huck 383 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: a Poos to see if they're like that. Hucka Poo's 384 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 1: the famous bar that West got drunk at millions of times? 385 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: What happened there? That's one way to answer the phone 386 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: at a bar? Was that a pick up and hang out? 387 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: That was a tad route? That? I mean? Their website 388 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: says call for delivery in a number that we just called. 389 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: I think that you are you shunning business away? Interesting? 390 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: All right, Let's let's try plan B. Let's give gregor call. 391 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: I feel like he's probably the most most likely to 392 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: have his wits about him right now, Yeah, I think so. 393 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: All right, let's get Greg on the phone. Uh, somewhere, 394 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: hopefully on Tybe unless that's a sign that something terrible 395 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: is happening in Tybee hopefully not. Like we can ask 396 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: Greg that die hard on a island paradise. They haven't 397 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: done that yet. It's too good set up. I don't 398 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: know if i'd had Greg Is the main star of 399 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: that Ben, you would it, Bruce Willis? Greg? It doesn't. Hello, 400 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: Greg Rosental, Yo, Yo? Are you sound quite different? Greg? 401 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: Your voice sounds different. No, I'm just trying to not 402 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: be rude. Right did we're in at We're at bunch. 403 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm stepping outside right now? Oh nice? All right? Greg? 404 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: What's going on on Tybee Island? Right now? Take us 405 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. You're here on the Around the NFL podcast. 406 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: Of course, we're live. We're live and just rolling right now. 407 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: That's how we do it. I got Chris Wesleyan right 408 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: next to me. Tybee Islands, imagina. That's all I can 409 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: say to describe it. Within within minutes of being here, 410 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: I am Innnesota, was in a totally different mind frame, 411 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: and I'm never leaving. I feel like I feel like 412 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: you're leaving something out about My wife could like come 413 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: down here and dominate like the cooking game and uh 414 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: and uh. I don't know what I'll do. I'll just 415 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: write about football and the stay. So you're gonna stay 416 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: on the docks, leave the kids behind, leave the wife behind, 417 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: or bring them here West compared to Well that it's 418 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: like him coming here is like an after not returning 419 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: from space. It's like, within within thirty minutes of being there, 420 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: we're just we're garage drinking. It's like the nicest bar 421 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: I've ever been to. But it's somehow in the garage 422 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: of the house we're staying at and and just people 423 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: are you know, just randomly walking up and and to 424 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: see West like he's like a returning hero. Are they 425 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: they're kissing the ring for Wesley? What's up? They kissing 426 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: the ring? Don't get aggressive with us. I give you 427 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: the West right now. Asked the question what's up? I 428 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: was weird. I just asked Greg if the locals are 429 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: kissing your ring, which is a term that they're showing 430 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: your respect. Okay, but here comes Fisco. What's going on? They? 431 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: How are you doing? I've been wondering. Yes, question for you, 432 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 1: if I can tear you away from Cisco or whoever 433 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: it is you're speaking to Uh, there is We have 434 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: a couple of photographs have leaked out and yesterday one 435 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: of Greg kind of nestling a tiny glass of what 436 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: looked to be merlot, some sort of red wine glass. Right? 437 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: Has he pivoted off red wine? Was there a second 438 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 1: glass of red wine? You remember West you made a 439 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: promise to Dan uh and to myself. We weren't counting drinks, 440 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: but there were way more than one red glass, glass 441 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 1: of red wine. And Greg's hand last night, very very 442 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: impressed with you and Greg. We we had him going 443 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: for probably about a good eight hours. That's nice. Did 444 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: he break away to write a roster reset for a 445 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: few hours or at any point or do maybe a 446 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: phone call? Did he do like a roster reset break 447 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: at any point or no? He never. I don't think 448 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: there was any football talk whatsoever. He did call one 449 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: of the people on the island and wait a minute, 450 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: why that feels like a rapport breaker. Well, it was 451 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: a request him Rosie. My uh, my friend Rosie. She 452 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: requested that Greg say it into the video and uh 453 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: so she could show it to this man later. Okay, 454 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: so but it wasn't. They didn't have a confrontation and 455 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: this guy Jim Glass about it. Greg's been hitting the 456 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: Merlau earlier like this is live radio today, this is 457 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: not taped, just to let you know there. Um wow, 458 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: so it seems like everybody seems to having a good time. 459 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: Is the big fish as he made the journey upstream 460 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: uh to Tybee yet hung up on you guys. I 461 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: mean that's so, that's how what else do we need 462 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: to know? I hope the big thing I I come out, 463 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: I come away from that phone called highly suspicious of 464 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: both of them. It almost felt like, um, Greg was 465 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: in danger. I don't know why. I just something was. 466 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: It was not right at all. That was not Greg 467 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: and that's not how you treat friends. Number one. We 468 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: tried to call back right now. Maybe we'll try later. 469 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: We try calling Huckapoos. They pick up the phone and 470 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: hang up on us. Uh. And by the way, they 471 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: spell their name four different ways on the website. Let's 472 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: get that. Let's get that together. And then we call 473 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 1: our co workers Greg and West and Greg goes on 474 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: in a swearing tirade and then shuts down. The line 475 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: cuts out. I'm sticking with a die hard on a 476 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: resort island angle here that there could be some danger, 477 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: but I guess we'll find out in a few days 478 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: if you know, if we never see them. Yeah, that 479 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: was concerning. I think the listeners would agree. All right. 480 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: So there it sounds like they're having a good time 481 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: or not. But uh, I can't wait till they rejoin 482 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: us here in southern California. Um, I guess we should 483 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: just move on. Given us no other choice to get 484 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: but to barrel into the next segment of the show. 485 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: All right, so uh as we move on? Here we 486 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: go now it's uh yes, uh, Mark and I grew 487 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: up on SportsTalk radio, so I feel like this Mark 488 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: is a good time for us to connect with our 489 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: listeners who are so loyal and are obviously as long 490 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: time listeners of the show, um, are smart and have 491 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: uh you know, they think about football in a different 492 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: way than joke you public, absolutely a different group and 493 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: an honor to speak with him. All right, so let's 494 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: let's get it going and we will start things out 495 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: here with Matt and san Raphael Maddie. There, I am here, 496 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to the uht A t L Debate Club. What's 497 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: going on? How can I help you? Uh? Well, first, 498 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: I mean maybe I'll disclose I'm not Matt so much 499 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: as I'm also Grieves or Greevy time, the guy who 500 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: spend that's how we what's up man? We know a legend. 501 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: What's up, buddy, A legend in my own mind that 502 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: that's happy to be here. Um uh And I also 503 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: just wanted to call a shout out in case you 504 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: guys haven't mentioned it. I just spent about an hour 505 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: and a half listening to uh the fantasy Land podcast 506 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: about Chris Yes is just tremendous and was also honored 507 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: to be a little bit of part of that. And 508 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: it's it's incredible, So everybody should uh take the time 509 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: to listen to it. It's long, but very much worth it. 510 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: That is a great a great shout out Greeby if 511 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: you go to at fantasy Land pod. That's the Twitter handle. Um. 512 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: They really did a great job and they spoke with 513 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: all of us at length, and it was all about 514 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: uh West is uh really brave and and ultimately successful 515 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: battle against the Big Sea. So kind of a real 516 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: deep dive into the whole journey that West went on 517 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: that you could check it out. I did find it 518 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: odd when I spoke to them we talked for a 519 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: good hour hour and a half. Um. They told me 520 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: they only needed to talk with Dan for roughly five 521 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: ten minutes. They had as much content as they needed. Um. Yeah, 522 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: well you know they need what they need, so but 523 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: the end of product was pretty great. Yeah. Check out 524 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: the Fantasy Land podcast. It's great. Uh. Anything else on that, 525 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: anything football related you want to throw out there? Yeah? Um, 526 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, just a fun question I thought I would 527 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: throw to your guys since you, um, you guys both 528 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: route for two franchises that are sort of historically down 529 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: on their luck. And I was thinking about, you know, 530 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm a die hard forty Niners fan, so I certainly 531 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: have had my sheriff success is I'm I'm old enough 532 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: to remember all the good times. Um, but it's been 533 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: a little rough of late. Uh, and we've had some 534 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: some troubling moments with our franchise. And I was saying 535 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: to myself, what would it take for me to put 536 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: together a binder of all the reasons I needed to 537 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: break up with my team? Um? And of course I 538 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: never got there, but you guys have certainly had it 539 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: a little harsher like, is there anything your teams could 540 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,959 Speaker 1: do that would make you have to write a breakup 541 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: letter to the Browns and Jets, and the way that 542 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: Westling did for the Bengals, I'll let you start with 543 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: that mark. I feel like at this point, because number 544 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: one not one years old at this point. Uh, the 545 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 1: minute that I put together said binder, for whatever reasons 546 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: that I came up with, it was the minute they 547 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: would turn fortunes around and become you know, good and 548 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: get on national television seven times a year. I am 549 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: too far gone to make when west did that, and 550 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: it was a calculated move on his part, with a 551 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: lot of thought behind it. He was a much younger 552 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: guy with a lot of football ahead of him. Like, 553 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: I am not going to jump ship now. I would 554 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: have already had five or six binders filled of reasons 555 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: to do it at this point. From a personal standpoint, 556 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: why don't you feel like it would be the most 557 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Browns thing ever for you to bail and then then 558 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. It's I listened three months into 559 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: becoming a Browns fan the drive happened, It would have 560 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: been it would have been good to maybe do it then, 561 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't do it, so and uh, grievy as 562 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: a somebody that grew up in the New York, New 563 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: Jersey area. Being a Jet fan. It's kind of like 564 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: the mafia. You're born into it and there's no way 565 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: out you. Your time as a Jet fan ends when 566 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: your time on this earth is up. Uh so, for 567 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: better or worse. And I say it all the time, 568 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: like people, oh, you're a Yankee fan. How are you 569 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: a Yankee fan and a jetsman? Usually it's Yankees, Jets 570 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: and Mets. Well, that was just the sports God's throwing 571 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: me a bone. They're like, you're gonna eat crap for 572 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: most of your lifetime with the Jets. We're gonna give 573 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: you the Yankees. Give you the Knicks too, which is 574 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: a team of very witting on by the way, uh there, 575 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: but there they would be my binder team. In fact, 576 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: that's been formulating for a couple of years now. But 577 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: the Jets, there's no way out, and I'll never leave. 578 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: And one day the dream is like Red Sox fans 579 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: and Cubs fans and and Browns fans born after their 580 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, heyday, that there will be a release eventually, 581 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: and that's the hope. Greedy Greedy. He runs the subreddit 582 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: around the NFL, and I owe you a pullover fleece 583 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: that will be being sent to you soon, because that's 584 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: the least we could do. Greeby does an amazing job 585 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: on our subreddit, so thanks, buddy. Hey, I appreciate that, guys. 586 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: Keep up the awesome work and shout out to Lindsay 587 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: as well, because equally great work as well. Yes, she does. 588 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: What a class act. Matt and San Rafael alright, alright, 589 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: never know what these callers. This could go any we 590 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: go north to south. That that went well, Greeby, that's 591 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: a home run. I think that, like I would like 592 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: one caller to be horrible and we get to and 593 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: old like Mike and a mad dog way, just utterly 594 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: destroy the person then just cut him off at something. 595 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: We've got to just cut someone off. I think even 596 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: if we get if we get laid into this and 597 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: someone's even pretty good, we might have to do that 598 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: just for the experience. To check that box. I think 599 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. Up next is let's see who we 600 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: got here. Mel from New Rochell Hello, Hello, Hello, Hey, 601 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: what's up buddy? Thanks? Thanks. I've been listening to it 602 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: on my ride home from work every day for the 603 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: last fifteen years. Love you guys, Thank you for having years. Okay, 604 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: how can we help you? Mel? I'm gonna make this quick. 605 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: I know you both have spread your wings and had 606 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: a side podcast, Mark of course the Heat and the Light. 607 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: Love that Dan, you do the throwback podcast? Would you 608 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: better with friend Bob? So if you guys would have 609 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: have solo podcast where it's just you and a microphone, 610 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: what would you talk about it? I'll hang up down 611 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: as thank you guys from the new roll. Mark. Wow. Um, 612 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: I really think the best thing about doing a show 613 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: is playing off other people. I think I would quickly 614 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: get myself in trouble um, but I would probably make 615 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: it about um, probably kind of close to the Heat 616 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: and Light context, considering that Heat and Light does not 617 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,479 Speaker 1: exist at this point and made return. It's kind of 618 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: in hiatus at best. It's I mean, listen, the the 619 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: medium that we were broadcasting on was a startup that 620 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: stops starting up. It no longer exists, and Connor lives 621 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: like three thousand miles away, so a bit of a 622 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: bit of a problem, unlike you and Bob doing it 623 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: in the garage. So yeah, I think it would take 624 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: a Heat and Light type um feel to it, but 625 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: I would stay away from the sort of overly pretentious 626 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: like nine episodes story pod where there's all these annoying 627 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: people you're interviewing. Yeah no, and not serial was fine, 628 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: just like it could quickly become very pretentious. So I 629 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: think I would probably cancel the show um after one 630 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: or two episodes, realizing that it was a you're putting 631 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: a target on yourself. Uh yeah, No. I do yeah 632 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: music pod, throwback pod with my buddy Bob, and I 633 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: do a sports pod talking football. Uh here. Yeah, it 634 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: would be fun to do like a show where it 635 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: was more general sports, maybe a little some pop culture 636 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: in there and talk movies, music, whatever. That'd be cool. 637 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: But I'm content or I am right now. Bob is 638 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: Bob is a good looking guy. That male from New 639 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: Rochelle claimed he's better looking than you. How do you 640 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: does that? Is that something that when you wake up, 641 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: like guys do it three in the morning with the 642 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: thoughts of life keeping you up? Will that keep you up? 643 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: That's the first I've ever heard that. There's not a 644 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: lot of backing evidence. I haven't heard like a lot 645 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: of people coming at me and saying that Bob's better looking. 646 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna assume this guy is an outlier and uh, 647 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: let's move on. Up next is um a gentleman by 648 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: the name of Duncan in Fort Murray, ALBERTA like that Duncan, 649 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: Hey Dan, Hey, Duncan, Welcome to the Round the NFL podcast. 650 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: How can we help you? Thank you? Hey. So my 651 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: question for you guys, I've been listening forever. I don't 652 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: think I've missed an episode. Maybe I have a long 653 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: time first time in other words, ah yeah, So my 654 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: question for you guys, what do you miss most about 655 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: the debate? Club days? Could be you know, lifestyle related, 656 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: could be general NFL related, podcast related, whatever. Man, Okay, 657 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: that's a good question. Good question, Fort Murray, Thank you, 658 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: all right. I think, uh, what I miss most, aside 659 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: from the loss of innocence that comes with before you 660 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: get married and have kids and stuff, would be just, uh, 661 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: I guess, the newness of it. But I don't feel 662 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: like the show doesn't I'm still excited doing the show 663 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: all the time that when we do now, but when 664 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: we started Mark it was really exciting. We owe damnit 665 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: check a huge debt of gratitude. We always will because 666 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: he put us on the back of his show, just 667 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: because he's a nice guy and or maybe you just 668 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: had time to fill maybe one way or the other. 669 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: But that's how it started, and that excitement of having 670 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: a microphone in front of your face for the first time. Yeah, 671 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: and like you go and watch like like long running 672 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: um sitcoms. Not to compare ourselves to Seinfeld, that's a 673 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: bit audacious, but uh, the first episode or two of Seinfeld, 674 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: when you go back and watch it, is super clunky. 675 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: And I think we had to work a lot to 676 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: have the ship. There were only eight minutes long, but 677 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: occasionally would feel seventy five to eighty minutes long because 678 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: we'd have long gaps so we didn't know who was 679 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: supposed to talk. I remember being visibly nervous, like driving 680 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: into work before doing some of those, and then it 681 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: got better and better as you went on. We just 682 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: kind of just did them. But I guess um one 683 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: high point was when Greg Rosenthal, who was living in 684 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: New York at the time and our boss um you know, 685 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: at the same time, came to New York, or at 686 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: least told us over the phone. He's like, guys, like, 687 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do something like this. If you're gonna 688 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: do a podcast or whatever it is you're calling this thing, 689 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: how about you do it in a professional manner. And 690 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: then the conversation end it and I thought, Hmmm, I 691 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: don't think our boss likes our show very much. Greg Rosatal, 692 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: master Motivator as the Boss. Up next is Chris in 693 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: New Mexico, just north of the border mark newer than 694 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: Old Mexico. Chris and New Mexico. Welcome to the Round 695 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Hey, how's it going, guys? What's up? 696 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: What's Matt? It's uh, this is unreal to beyond with 697 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: you anyway. Uh So, listen to a podcast by an 698 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: author named Malcolm Gladwell. I love to debate with Adam 699 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: Grant recently, and Adam Grant had him explain why he 700 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: always roots for favorites instead of underdogs, and his explanation 701 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: was that it's the morally right thing to do, because 702 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: the underdog goes in not expecting to win. Uh. The 703 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: favorite goes in with all of the expectations of both 704 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: himself and everybody else to win. So the disappointment that 705 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: the favorite experiences when he loses his way, hire, then 706 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: what the underdog experiences right, what do you guys think? Well, 707 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 1: may I ask do you root for a specific team yourself? Yeah, 708 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get killed for it for the Patriot all right. 709 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean this feels like it came out. You know, 710 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: does Greg have a gun to your head right now? 711 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, But that's an interesting theory from from 712 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: that pod. What do you think Chris is part of? 713 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: Like the whatever is going on right now in Tybee, 714 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: Chris is involved? Way? Um? I think you know it's interesting? 715 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: Uh that so they said the morally superior thing is 716 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: to root for the favorite because of the letdown is 717 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: too painful for the favorite. That's the gist of it. 718 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: That's interesting. I don't know. I I feel like rooting 719 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: for the underdog, you know, speaks to the whole other 720 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: like host of you know, human positive qualities that you want, 721 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: the idea that people can can exceed what you expect 722 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: from them or expect from themselves. But then on the 723 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: flip side, I'm like a huge Lebron James fan. I 724 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: just saying I'm a Knicks fan, but and I and 725 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: I feel this way about other great athletes. Jordan's was 726 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: a similar thing. Um that true Tiger Woods is another 727 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: guy that I've always rooted for, seeing whatever sport they 728 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: play at the highest level, So I like I enjoy 729 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: rooting for those giants, like a rod was a more 730 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: complicated guy to root for, but when he was Alex 731 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: Rodriguez and baseball, when he was at his height, you 732 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: were watching somebody that was kind of a master of 733 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: the craft. Uh So, I kind of like the idea 734 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: of rooting for favorites, especially individual favorites, but from a 735 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: team standpoint, I think from I think the underdog, and 736 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting theory to say that also 737 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: that the that the consistent winner has a lot more 738 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: pressure packed into their into their weekly you know work, 739 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: especially when you get into the playoffs, because of the 740 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: expectations and the fact that you're assumed to already get 741 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: to that high standard. And I remember even you know, 742 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: covering some Super Bowls, where as a human being, you're 743 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: naturally sort of pulling for one of the two teams, 744 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 1: and when you feel that potentially slipping a a it's 745 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,800 Speaker 1: a way different feeling than watching, uh, your crappy football 746 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: team just getting waxed in Week five by Cincinnati or something. 747 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: That said, though, here's where I challenged the theory most 748 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: people when if you pick up a team as a kid, 749 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: unless it's you know, put on you by family, you 750 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: pick a team that's a winner. Kids don't naturally at 751 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: age five or six gravitate towards losers. But if you 752 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: stick with that team, they're gonna go through ups and downs. 753 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,359 Speaker 1: So let's say, if the Patriots suddenly and they will 754 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: become a disaster at some point in the caller's life, 755 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: do you suddenly jump ship to the new team of 756 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: the day or whatever team is good every year, because 757 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: we're claiming that to be higher moral ground. Have a 758 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: problem with Chris is gone, Okay, well thanks for calling Chris. 759 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm wondering how Chris became a Patriots fan in New Mexico. 760 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: But then again, we met like a seven foot six 761 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: Taiwanese man at our last tweet up in Minneapolis that 762 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 1: became a huge Patriots fans. Yeah, I think like probably, 763 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: if you're a great team for roughly twenty years, you're 764 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: pulling people in from you know, all fifty states. That's 765 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: not an insaturation. By the way, it was seven and 766 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: a half feet tall. The ment a delightful gentleman, and 767 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,919 Speaker 1: to speak with as well, and if he's listening right now, 768 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: it was great to me. We love you all right, 769 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:11,919 Speaker 1: let's keep going. Will in Charlotte up next? Will you there? Yes, sir? 770 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: How you doing? Hey? What's up? Will? What's William? That's right? Um? 771 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: I just want to say, what's going on, guys, big fan. 772 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: I've introduced a lot of people to the podcast. I got. 773 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: That's a good job by you, Will, right, Jeff, Tom 774 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: and Joe listening of course? Apple cider vinegar? That's me? Mark? 775 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: Are you doing good to hear from you? You're the man. 776 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: I want to play a game of what's more likely? Here? Fun? 777 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: That's right? So I mean, are we cool with will 778 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: even though he's got the apple cider vinegar angle? Here? 779 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: Are we cooled him kind of putting the show in 780 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: his own direction? And we are we okay with this? 781 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: I think it's it's daring. It shows some, it shows 782 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: some you know, real are onions. I think so I 783 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: think that we're we're going to go with that. We 784 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: respect it. Go on. Yeah, thank you, guys. I appreciate that. 785 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure the Brown and Build combined for nine wins 786 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: or more. They combined yep, okay, nine Mark pays off 787 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: all his sandwiches, well, that's never gonna happen. Well, okay, 788 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: because if you look at the what I actually owe 789 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: and sandwiches, and earlier in the show, I bemoan the 790 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 1: fact that I'm taking a week long vacation and literally 791 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: probably not leaving my house due to lack of funds. 792 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,839 Speaker 1: The idea that I would buy anything more that at 793 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: this point than a round of sandwiches is highly improbable. 794 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: And I think the Browns and Bills could both be 795 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: essentially the Dictionary definition of crappy and each turnout about 796 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: four and five wins. You know, one does five, one 797 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: does four, and we're there, so you gotta get at 798 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: least nine. And for the record, I Mark will never 799 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: pay off a sandwich is just because we wouldn't make 800 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 1: him do that, because he's been so poor at the 801 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: go get my lunch game that if he were to 802 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: pay off all sandwich bets, his children would be pulled 803 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: out of school, You'd move into uh, really run down 804 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: apartment company or like a Y M c A. So 805 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't we don't want him to do that, but 806 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: we we you know what, and it's good will that 807 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: you brought this up, and since you brought it up, Mark, 808 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: it would be fair. I think that now we're not 809 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: asking you to totally pay up, but maybe throw us. 810 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: I like at this point that you guys are trying 811 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: to handle this in such a gentle manner manner manner 812 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: that you're sort of walking on eggshells around the fact 813 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: that I've done such an awful job of delivering on 814 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: the sandwiches. It is on me to do it. It 815 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: will not be happening next week on vacation. But I 816 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: have so little money right now that I literally don't 817 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,840 Speaker 1: even have a car, So I need someone to drive 818 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: me to a sandwich shop to pick that up. So 819 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: if you can drive me to any sandwich shop that 820 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: you wish, I will purchase excluding bond. Alright, well, thank you, 821 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 1: thank you absolutely guys. All right, we'll take a couple 822 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: more and then we gotta get going. Let's uh up next? 823 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: Uh oh, I think I know who this is actually 824 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: up next is Jason and Kingman. Kingman, I believe, is 825 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: a community in the state of Arizona. It is Hey, Hey, 826 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: what's up? What's going on? All? This is unwall? This 827 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:27,439 Speaker 1: is how are you welcome to the around the NFL 828 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 1: podcast and if you do go all the way back. Uh. Jason, 829 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: by the way, very talented writer actor here in Los Angeles. 830 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: Also occasional contributor to the Throwback podcast and um Once 831 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: upon a Time and during the early days of the 832 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: A t L Debate Club did some did some voice 833 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,840 Speaker 1: work which maybe we'll get to it. We'll get to 834 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: in a minute. Jay. First of all, how are you, Bud? 835 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm good man, Completely forgot about this call. Was inside 836 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: watching Dr Strange with my family. Family. You have, you 837 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 1: have a toddler and infant. You gather the family around 838 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: at eleven fifty six specific time to watch Doctor Strange 839 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:13,399 Speaker 1: with with everyone. Interesting. Okay, it's this interesting situation that's 840 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: a little weird, but it's fine. Jay A well well 841 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: well known at least by me and people in your 842 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: circle of life that you're a Cardinals fan. You got 843 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: any anything on the cards? Yeah? I mean number one. 844 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: I hope Josh Rosen doesn't play this year, but I 845 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: think we all know he is eventually going to just 846 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: because Sam Bradford has made a class um he is. 847 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: We brought up Bruce Willis earlier. We brought up Bruce 848 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: Willis earlier. Because there might be a die hard on 849 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: a resort island situation going on in Tybee right now. 850 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: But you when you mentioned Mr Glass, Yeah, that is 851 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford's kind of the Samuel L. Jackson without the 852 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: murderous rage within Well, I don't know. I mean it 853 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: depends on how you know, you know, people think he 854 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: treated Carson Wentz there. There seemed to be some murderous 855 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: rage there. He seems to have changed his tune with 856 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, but yeah, he didn't seem to be too 857 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: hot on being replaced by with Wentz. But yeah, I 858 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,759 Speaker 1: I think this is one thing because a lot of 859 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: people are talking about our offensive weapons and how you know, 860 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 1: John Brown is gone, Geron Brown is gone. Of course 861 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: have Larry Fitzgerald and we have uh, David Johnson, which 862 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: is you know, I can't really beat those two. But 863 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: I think that people should not sleep on Chad Williams. 864 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: He's the h I think he's a second round pick 865 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 1: from last year. And this is something that Darren Urban, 866 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: who is the beat writer for the Cardinals, uh he 867 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: said recently on a podcast. So I'm just totally ripping 868 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 1: him off. But last year he was not really expected 869 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: to play much. Uh he was, you know, like sixth 870 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,839 Speaker 1: in line and a stacked roster. But this year there 871 00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: are expectations on this kid, and he's got a lot 872 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,800 Speaker 1: of natural talent. So I think that's the name. You 873 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: feel good? We Uh yeah, so keep an eye out. 874 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: Uh Aaron Williams, you said, um so, Chad Williams. Sorry, 875 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: thank you Jason for bringing literally the only football analysis 876 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: to this entire episode. By the way, nice nicely done. Jay. 877 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: But right before the draft, and Mark, you and I 878 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: were at the combine and I remember seeing Steve Wilkes 879 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 1: and and he was facing the media and didn't have 880 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 1: a lot of positive news or a lot of optimism 881 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: around this team that he had inherited from Bruce Arians. 882 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: And remember thinking, oh, what a bad spot for a 883 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,399 Speaker 1: new head coach without a quarterback, replacing a guy that's 884 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: a very well liked, popular figure in the organization and 885 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: in the league. And I thought the Josh Rosen, I 886 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: think that really changed things for the Cardinals. And what 887 00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: Jay saying is give him a year on the bench. 888 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't think the even have the opportunity. I know 889 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: they have Mike Lennon on the roster still, but uh, 890 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: Sam Bradford is going to get hurt. So it's just 891 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: a matter of when, Uh, the opportunity is gonna come 892 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: to replace the injured guy, and you're it's gonna be 893 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: hard to not put the rookie. And I think you're 894 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: gonna see like at least eight games whether you want 895 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: him or not. I think a couple of these rookies 896 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,800 Speaker 1: will be anointed by the end of August. And you 897 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: just because Sam Bradford, whether or not it gets hurt, 898 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: just also feels like the guy that, depending on how 899 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: it goes, could just get bench at some point too. 900 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: I like Bradford, but it's just that that's sort of 901 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: what's happened to him over and over. Yeah, I'm giving 902 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 1: Bradford six games this year. Um. I think Josh Rosen 903 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 1: is going to start ten. Um. My biggest fear, especially 904 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: as an Arizona Cardinals fan, is just that offensive line. UM, 905 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't care. It just seems no matter what we 906 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,160 Speaker 1: try to do with it, um, it just gets decimated. UM. 907 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: I love Justin Pugh. I think he's a great addition. 908 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: I actually really love I think it's our third or 909 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: fourth round pick this year. Uh, he seems to be 910 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: like a real solid guard. Um, but it's tough. It's 911 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,359 Speaker 1: hard to build a line. Like people are coming from 912 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,479 Speaker 1: the Brown they I mean the offensive lines in general. 913 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: Like you hear fans or people on the football Gatna 914 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 1: sent there get getting mad of teams and say things like, oh, 915 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,919 Speaker 1: why didn't they do anything to build a line. Well, 916 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: there's very few guys on the free agent pile that 917 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: are worth a damn And it's a bad draft class, 918 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: just like it was a bad it's hard to get. 919 00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: We have a dearth of offensive lineman. So I like that, Jason. Also, 920 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,400 Speaker 1: just by the way, drop news of a Brown's Cardinals 921 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: trade that sent cornerback Jamaar Taylor. It's literally as if 922 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,279 Speaker 1: it's as if we are to just guys talking on 923 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: the phone who actually dialed out to someone who's paying 924 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: attention to the NFL. That's what this call is represented. Jay. 925 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: Before we let you go, uh, from the A T 926 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: A T L Debate Club, we had a a very 927 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: short lived bit called, um, you know, well known character actor, 928 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:16,320 Speaker 1: famous Hollywood legend, Christopher Walkin. What if Christopher Walkin was 929 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 1: um what was it? And he was a diehard Giants 930 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: fan and he had a segment called Walking with Giants. Yeah, 931 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: so before we let you go, Jay, how about a 932 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: man of a million voices? Jameson Walt the latest edition 933 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 1: and perhaps the final edition of Walking with Giants, Take 934 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: it away, Christopher. How it's me Chris Walkin and I'm 935 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:45,160 Speaker 1: walking with who heroes, not just giants. I'm walking with 936 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 1: Hans And we're here to talk about that new hot 937 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: shot that's landed right there, drastic everyone wants from now, 938 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 1: how's it going to do this year? Of course we're 939 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: talking about art more like David. Wait to say, Chris, Chris, 940 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: we all thought you were going down the road of 941 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley, the star running back that is expected 942 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: to transform quarterback. I'm gonna replace Manning. It's gonna happen. 943 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: It's the people say they feel like they found a 944 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: guy that that could be an air parent in that 945 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: in that quarterback trap pick. He may be right. A 946 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 1: lot of people would be surprised that Christopher walking at 947 00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 1: a deep knowledge of the depth chart in the meadow ends. 948 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: But that's just your thing. You've always been a huge 949 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 1: Giants fan. Chris Gimbo Lula La, I actually don't even 950 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 1: know the guy's realm uh well that was very nice. 951 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,919 Speaker 1: That was good, good to talk to walking. Nice work, 952 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: Jay Jay. Get back to scarring your children with with 953 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 1: programming they're they're probably not ready for. Yeah, yeah, I 954 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: want to make sure that my my children never sleep 955 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,479 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. Jason Zamwald bomb on Twitter at Jason Zamwald. Bye, buddy, 956 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: all right, we got time for then we got time 957 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: for I think we only got time for one more. 958 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: Maybe we should go to the newsroom. Um and um. 959 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:26,719 Speaker 1: Reach out to a gentleman that fans of the podcast. No, well, uh, 960 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: he's a guy that he has his own rooting interest 961 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,840 Speaker 1: in the Carolina Panthers. Um, and he also is a 962 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 1: guy that was looking for love. Can I speak to 963 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:51,400 Speaker 1: David Eally? Please? Yeah, thank you. We go on a kick, Dave. 964 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: What's up? How's it going? Welcome back to the Round 965 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. How are you guys today? Doing all right? So, um, 966 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: we're up against we got the Flash coming up in 967 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 1: a second, but I wanted to touch base with you. Uh, 968 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,800 Speaker 1: you are more than anyone else I know. You know, 969 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: a man over thirty being super plugged into the ABC 970 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: program The Bachelorette, and uh, I you had some hot 971 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 1: takes uh bubbling up yesterday and I said, well, we're 972 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 1: gonna be doing a call and show, so do you 973 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: want to get some hot takes out there? Some questions 974 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: whatever about the Bachelorette. Obviously actually wrote some notes down 975 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: in preparation for this. All right, let's calm down a 976 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,720 Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, but what do you got? Alright, 977 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of football crossover for this 978 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: season about Serette. You. We've got two former players and 979 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: then a football analyst, uh pro football focuses Mike. I 980 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 1: don't know his last name, but just we're calling PFF 981 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: Mike for this, right. So first, all right, Colton Underwood, 982 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: My question is is he there for the right reasons? 983 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 1: He he he's he's not only for a few years, 984 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,760 Speaker 1: but he great gay notoriety. When he sent Ali Risman, 985 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,959 Speaker 1: the Olympian from the Nazis scene from the video asking 986 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: her out, he's that to me, that schemes attention seeker. 987 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:03,919 Speaker 1: So you don't think he's there for the right reason. 988 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: I do not think he's there for the right reasons. 989 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: I think he wants to fame the notoriety for unlike 990 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,240 Speaker 1: other people on the Bachelorette he's he's seeking attention. Yes, okay, 991 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,960 Speaker 1: he's not there, Rebecca. He is there to be on television. 992 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: She's not his focus on Who is this gentleman again? 993 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: Colden Underwood. Um, he is a practice squad player about 994 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: from a little bit. He never appeared in the game, 995 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: unlike my guy Clay Harbor. So he's Um, he's a 996 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: former football player, played tight end for about seven or 997 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 1: eight seasons. I think a hundred and fourteen career, catches, 998 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: eight touchdowns. That's a real career. Yeah, we've written posts 999 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: about Clay Harbor before. I know he's been in some transactions. 1000 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: He's he's probably bet you've written a story about him. 1001 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, so he's a real player. I think that 1002 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: definitely means that he's gonna get He'll win an elimination 1003 00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,239 Speaker 1: at one point, he'll get a rose. But my big 1004 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: red side for him, he's owing two career record in 1005 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Interesting. So you think when it when the 1006 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: leaves turn color, when the relationship starts to hit to 1007 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: the to the next level, when you really got to 1008 00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: seal the deal, you you worry that he won't be 1009 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: able to do it. Yeah, I feel like the pressure 1010 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: of a two on one date would kind of get 1011 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: to him. I wouldn't necessarily think that he could come 1012 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 1: through the clutch on there day if I got to 1013 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,759 Speaker 1: be honest, when you describe the show in such an 1014 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: intense way, you sound dreadfully lonely. What else do you 1015 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 1: have any other anybody else? The show comes on one 1016 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: in what I mean, like what like Monday nights on 1017 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,400 Speaker 1: like a hot date night or anything like that. I 1018 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: can be at home by myself with a dog and 1019 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,880 Speaker 1: enjoy the show. It's no big deal. Okay, No, I 1020 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: wasn't hating. I was just saying, just there's an intensity 1021 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: the way you're talking about other people's fake club lives 1022 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 1: that that makes leaves me with some questions. But anybody 1023 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 1: else that you're scouting for the new season of The Bachelorette, well, 1024 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: I guess we shouldn't. We should talk about um football 1025 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,840 Speaker 1: Twitter's favorite guy PFF Mike right now. Um I just 1026 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,759 Speaker 1: everything I saw on on my account yesterday was just 1027 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: people rooting for Mike talking about Mike. It's like the 1028 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,399 Speaker 1: whole industry he wants him to do well on the show. 1029 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think like he does seem pretty normal, 1030 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: And I mean, shoot, your shot. I don't know how 1031 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: long he's gonna last on there. I mean, I'm rooting 1032 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 1: for him. He has really long hair. From what I 1033 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,640 Speaker 1: could tell from his profile, well, I give up over 1034 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: under five hair references for him. When he's on the show, 1035 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 1: I can't. I'm trying to figure out. And it's Mike 1036 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,800 Speaker 1: Renner at PFF Underscore. Mike, He's I think he's a 1037 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 1: listener of our show. I think he follows us on Twitter, 1038 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 1: and I Mike, I've never seen him before. And then 1039 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: I see this bachelorettess, a tremendously good looking man, and uh, 1040 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 1: just the whole PF vibe Mark is a little strange. 1041 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,879 Speaker 1: You have this like super hot dude. You've got people 1042 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,359 Speaker 1: in Ireland, You've got people in England, You've got Chris 1043 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 1: Collinsworth lording Over, there's a lot going. Offices are in 1044 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: Cincinnati of all. I mean, I look at seeing by 1045 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: the way he follows us on Twitter and we follow him, 1046 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: so it's like we're we are, you know, in many senses, 1047 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: he's my front runner. I'd be rooting for him. Does 1048 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: PF lose him as a contributor if he wins this 1049 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: love contest, you're saying if he if he wins the road, 1050 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean typically if you win this thing, you vanish 1051 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 1: into reality television realms and you're kind of you're, you know, 1052 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,760 Speaker 1: hot property for two or three years or maybe fourteen 1053 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 1: months or so? Were my question? I mean, because when 1054 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: was the show tape? So as did Mike? Did Mike 1055 00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: have to miss out our free agency for the the 1056 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: miss something of the playoffs? I mean, alright, what's your priority, Mike? 1057 00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: Your job or love? Okay, well we know, David, where 1058 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 1: you put your priorities between those two according to stories 1059 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: that are out there, and I I don't know what 1060 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,879 Speaker 1: you're getting with that. I mean, Dave, I can't draw 1061 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 1: your own conclusions as you want to, and I can't 1062 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 1: help Dave. But notice I've been checking your Instagram and 1063 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 1: I'm not seeing anything new with you, and and we're 1064 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 1: talking about the bats are Repp? Possibly? Do we need 1065 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 1: to do something with our own audience? We have a 1066 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 1: lot of female listeners. Uh, set something up to help 1067 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 1: you out in this in this game of love for 1068 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,200 Speaker 1: all the female listeners on the l A area. My 1069 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: Instagram handled at David Elie that's d A v I 1070 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 1: D E. L ife. If you want to scour anything. 1071 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: I have a nice dog. I like to think of 1072 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: a fun life. That could be your life too. I 1073 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,240 Speaker 1: mean it's the intensity, and it's very intense. You gotta 1074 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: you gott to tone it down day, you know, No, 1075 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta emphasize for the show. I mean, 1076 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: like this is a this is a visual platform. But 1077 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: Dave is a good looking guy. He's got a solid bod, 1078 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: and he's got nice he's got a symmetrical face. There. 1079 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: You could go a lot worse than Dave. Back in 1080 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 1: the day, Eily, there were times when you would allow me. 1081 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the service was. It 1082 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 1: wasn't tender. Was something where you allowed me to at 1083 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,200 Speaker 1: an establishment take you in a conversation right to the 1084 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,399 Speaker 1: brink with like a local female, and then I would 1085 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: hand over the account and then I'd ask what happened? 1086 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,800 Speaker 1: How did the date go? The date didn't happen or 1087 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:37,320 Speaker 1: didn't what? What exactly or is your strategy, Dave to 1088 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 1: to kind of close the deal and get on a 1089 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: date with any of these women. I mean, now it's 1090 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 1: going to be started selling the fact that I got 1091 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: a nice spot in symmetrical face. I guess there's gotta 1092 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: be all right, you deserve it, Dave, somebody if you 1093 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,399 Speaker 1: want to help, just let us know. Um, Danny gonna 1094 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,919 Speaker 1: be watching this season. I think I might plug in. Yeah, 1095 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,839 Speaker 1: because what about you, Mark, You're gonna watch Clay Harbert listen. 1096 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I've written posts about Clay Barbara. How do 1097 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: I not track this part of his life? I must? 1098 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:04,720 Speaker 1: And Mark, what do you think about a Tuesday recap 1099 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: about the NFL ties to the pastor of the season. 1100 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 1: I could make that. Yeah, I think that's uh, that's 1101 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: and that's not going to be happening now, all right, Dave, 1102 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: thank you. We'll see in a little bit. All right, 1103 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 1: all right, Um, we could try to call Tybee back, 1104 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: but I just feel like I don't know what else 1105 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 1: it needs to be said. I mean, I feel like 1106 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,360 Speaker 1: they kind of stated their intentions with two extremely rude 1107 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: phone calls, one that didn't even start because the bar 1108 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: doesn't decide to take our call. All right, So I 1109 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 1: hope everything's well and Tybee and everybody gets back safe 1110 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: and sound, and West fulfills his promise to get Greg 1111 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: into some trouble. Um. Thank you to everyone for listening 1112 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 1: and Lindsay still has not come back with any more 1113 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: sources about her claims that Bria is curse free, but 1114 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, you know, I'm going there this week, and 1115 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: um I might just do that whole to Am ghost 1116 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: walk just to show you guys the burden of proof 1117 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 1: is on on you at this point, So that would 1118 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,959 Speaker 1: be that would be good. Okay, good work on the phones. 1119 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: By the way, well you can see radio veteran years 1120 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,120 Speaker 1: in Cleveland as a radio vet and uh, look at you, 1121 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: just shooting star. Not easy to do here with our 1122 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 1: but shadow League figures and I like that. All right, 1123 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,080 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Monday. I think next week actually 1124 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: is our last week of three a week shows before 1125 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 1: we go two a week leading toward training camp. But 1126 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: uh yeah, we'll be back on Monday, hopefully with everybody 1127 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 1: in to until then. Uh, this is Dan Hansens signing 1128 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 1: off for the Quiet Storm. And yes, Lindsey Fulton behind 1129 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,800 Speaker 1: the glass, not the make man. Lindsey all time behind 1130 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:46,200 Speaker 1: the glass until Monday. See