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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, May eleven, twenty twenty two, Season eighteen,
Speaker 1: episode number eight. Welcome to the latest edition of The
Speaker 1: Break Life and s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: We've got a little bit of time here today to
Speaker 1: talk to you guys about a lot of different things.
Speaker 1: We have the Rookie Minicamp coming up this weekend. We
Speaker 1: got some wrap up on the draft and those guys
Speaker 1: and what you guys will be looking for this weekend.
Speaker 1: If anything, we'll talk about a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: We'll also talk about schedule release that's coming up tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Lots of interesting things coming out of that. As usual.
Speaker 1: The NFL UH that is a super Bowl for digital
Speaker 1: media groups around the NFL. Should be fun tomorrow. Stop it.
Speaker 1: Dave cares what you think about that. I didn't say
Speaker 1: anything you invited me into that, I did, uh, And
Speaker 1: then we'll see in the final segment if we have
Speaker 1: a little time to talk about a second NFL team
Speaker 1: in the city of Dallas. Maybe we'll have time for that,
Speaker 1: maybe we won't, but we'll see how that goes. How
Speaker 1: you doing, Nike Goode? Yeah, you know, I figure if
Speaker 1: we have a little time, we might throw it out
Speaker 1: there and let y'all feast done that a little bit
Speaker 1: and see what kind of funny I thought. But we'll
Speaker 1: get to that in the third segment, maybe if we
Speaker 1: have a little bit as well as chance in hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, we'll get to that. Um. So let's start
Speaker 1: first with the rookies. UM, we last week did a
Speaker 1: deep dive into each player that was drafting your thoughts
Speaker 1: on them. This week, I think we're gonna take a
Speaker 1: little bit of a bigger picture view of the draft
Speaker 1: and as a whole, and then with the rookies coming
Speaker 1: in this weekend, some of the things that are intriguing
Speaker 1: to you about that, Let's start first. We do we
Speaker 1: do know the rookie mini campus coming up Friday Saturday.
Speaker 1: They'll be arriving on Thursday. We'll have lots of content
Speaker 1: following those guys interviewing those guys will get to see
Speaker 1: the rookies for the first time in Cowboys uniforms, so
Speaker 1: that should be somewhat exciting for fans out there. Let's
Speaker 1: go back to the draft, though, and as you look
Speaker 1: across the entire draft, the entire lot of Cowboys picks,
Speaker 1: who was the most intriguing draft pick for you? Most
Speaker 1: intriguing draft pick two come to mind, one being Jalen Tilburt,
Speaker 1: just because I think the value is great. I think
Speaker 1: he's good enough to start right away. Obviously Tyler Smith,
Speaker 1: but I think I hate to say project, but I
Speaker 1: just feel better about what Jaalen Tilbert is right now
Speaker 1: and got to see more from Tyler Smith. And then
Speaker 1: Damon Clark just because of the great unknown of what
Speaker 1: he can be when he's healthy and the discount that
Speaker 1: they got there. Those are the two for me. For me,
Speaker 1: I would obviously Tyler Smith. I think he you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a I think he's a
Speaker 1: project left tackle. I don't know if he's a project
Speaker 1: left guard. If he is, they shouldn't have drafted him.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that he's not that. But I think well,
Speaker 1: let's go, has a chance to probably be starter in
Speaker 1: a couple of years. I think I think I could
Speaker 1: see that happening over Josh ball or do you see
Speaker 1: how do you see them? Because I heard that conversation
Speaker 1: come up yesterday and it was an intriguing one because
Speaker 1: Josh balls fourth round pick is you know, and so
Speaker 1: duke it out. That's fine. Whoever wins, that'd be great.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not counting on that. I mean they're
Speaker 1: both fourth round pick or no, he's a fifth round
Speaker 1: the well let's go. Um, I just I could see
Speaker 1: that that happening. But if Josh balls better, that's a
Speaker 1: good it's a good problem that you're just really going
Speaker 1: with the word play over there. Well, let's go. I'm
Speaker 1: ball out talking right now. You sound like nick like
Speaker 1: every time y'all come up with some smarty line pun. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I don't. I'm trying to think of a different
Speaker 1: guy other than Tyler Smith, because he really is the guy.
Speaker 1: That's more not just the guy, but the position itself.
Speaker 1: What's going on on the O line. That's the most
Speaker 1: intriguing part for me because we're a week out from
Speaker 1: the draft already and we still haven't seen like any
Speaker 1: other signing of like a veteran guy. And I know
Speaker 1: they just drafted a first round pick to come in
Speaker 1: and help and they're expecting him to be a guy
Speaker 1: that can help in the get go right away. But
Speaker 1: it's just I can't visualize all of that really going
Speaker 1: smoothly just yet. So I'm really intrigued as to what
Speaker 1: is actually going to happen with the tackle position and
Speaker 1: with the guard position as we start moving into rookie
Speaker 1: Mune camp then training camp and seeing how things develop,
Speaker 1: because they I still think they need a veteran guy
Speaker 1: to come in and help and they haven't signed a
Speaker 1: guy like that. Yeah, it's it's interesting, and I think
Speaker 1: my most intriguing pick it's really the two it's the
Speaker 1: two offensive linement because I think going into the draft,
Speaker 1: and I'll speak for myself, I was really I was
Speaker 1: assuming that Dallas was looking at either the draft or
Speaker 1: some veteran to be the guys that would be your
Speaker 1: backup tackle, you know that kind of thing. And it
Speaker 1: sounds like from from really the way the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: looking at it, they're looking at their young guys as
Speaker 1: their backups. I don't think they're necessarily going out and
Speaker 1: finding some veterans. So I'm interested to see how you know.
Speaker 1: Can you have Smith come in and play guard immediately?
Speaker 1: As you said, Nick, I agree with you. If he
Speaker 1: can't do that, then I questioned whether he was worth
Speaker 1: the first round pick. But can he come in do
Speaker 1: that immediately? Is there an ability for well, let's go
Speaker 1: or Ball to maybe jump in there and be your
Speaker 1: swing tackle this year, or both of them battling in
Speaker 1: that situation, Ken Farnie, I give you to give you
Speaker 1: some competition at center. Like, I think there are lots
Speaker 1: of questions on the offensive line, and it seems like
Speaker 1: the approach the Cowboys are taking is that they're gonna
Speaker 1: go with young guys. I think, you know, to Amber's point,
Speaker 1: if if they do sign a veteran at this point,
Speaker 1: I think that they would probably deem them as progress stoppers.
Speaker 1: I think you have to wait and see this office
Speaker 1: off season and training camp. Now, if you get the
Speaker 1: camp and and all of a sudden, Dorance Armstrong looks
Speaker 1: like Lawrence Taylor coming off the edge every time because
Speaker 1: you can't block him, then I would think maybe you
Speaker 1: do have to go that route it. Maybe maybe Lawrence
Speaker 1: is just Lawrence Taylor. Yeah, Donce Taylor say, yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: that'd be good problem, that would be a good problem
Speaker 1: to have. But yeah, I'll lean the other way, Okay.
Speaker 1: And that's not a knock on Doran's that's training camp.
Speaker 1: We see that all the time. We're staying Sky's bawling out.
Speaker 1: He's amazing practice day after day. And then it turns
Speaker 1: out it was the competition what they were doing last year.
Speaker 1: He had a great training camp camp. He did have
Speaker 1: a great season last This season was pretty good for
Speaker 1: for all, for not being a starter, for being a
Speaker 1: guy that they lean on on special teams. He had
Speaker 1: a nice year. But then we got to come up
Speaker 1: if if none of if none of their tackles can
Speaker 1: deal with him at training camp, that's a problem. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's not a like, oh we've got a great end.
Speaker 1: It's a oh, we don't have any tackles in my opinion,
Speaker 1: right all right, Um, who was the biggest steal of
Speaker 1: the draft? Well, I mean if I if I'm saying that, well,
Speaker 1: let's go has a chance to start in a couple
Speaker 1: of years, then I gotta say that then, especially since
Speaker 1: he's a fifth rounder, which fifth rounders haven't been too
Speaker 1: good around here at all. Yeah, yeah, at this one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was about Yeah, it's been a it's been a
Speaker 1: Bank of America type a round. So they gotta be
Speaker 1: they gotta be better than that. I'll say Tolbert again
Speaker 1: because they almost drafted him at fifty six and he
Speaker 1: was still there at eighty eight. Um. I want to
Speaker 1: say Daman Clark, but I think you got to hold
Speaker 1: off until you see if he's the same player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he will be. I hope he will be,
Speaker 1: but we don't know that right will be a steel.
Speaker 1: Then that would be for sure. If he if he
Speaker 1: just if it's like nothing ever happened, then that is
Speaker 1: one of the steels of the draft. Probably, But it's
Speaker 1: just too soon to say that right now. I tell
Speaker 1: you who Jerry would would say. It's like it was
Speaker 1: Sam Williams. We're fair. We're calling him D now, right
Speaker 1: should it's D. It's actually it's spelled d E, so
Speaker 1: it's dead. But everybody says D, so I guess we
Speaker 1: just say D. I think his middle name. I think
Speaker 1: we talked about this last name. His mental name is
Speaker 1: liked Eric. I think something like that. What position is
Speaker 1: he going to be like, what a position is he
Speaker 1: going to be listed at? Why? Because it would be
Speaker 1: d D. Williams. They're call him d D. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what's gonna happen. I can hear it in
Speaker 1: the press box now. But yeah, I agree, I agree.
Speaker 1: I agree with Nick that Jerry would say that that's okay.
Speaker 1: Is that a fair assessment that that he should be
Speaker 1: considered a bit of a steel for the Cowboys? If
Speaker 1: he not? Until it? No, it's too soon to say
Speaker 1: that it will be. Could argue that based on talent,
Speaker 1: you could argue Kelvin Joseph could be a steel too,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem that way right now, and so
Speaker 1: those those things go into consideration. Steel. I'm like, fair, No,
Speaker 1: it's too soon to like, it's too soon to be
Speaker 1: like we were right about this, like we well took
Speaker 1: this chance and he was there and where it's going
Speaker 1: to pay off. It's too soon to say that. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest, when you start talking about steals, it's probably
Speaker 1: too early to say that for anybody true how it's
Speaker 1: going to pan out. But you kind of just base
Speaker 1: it on where they got them versus what the potential is.
Speaker 1: I guess is the best way to look at But like,
Speaker 1: like a Jalen Tolbert doesn't come with the same question marks,
Speaker 1: whereas I'm like, yeah, like if he's on the field
Speaker 1: doing his thing, I think that's really good value for
Speaker 1: where they got him. He's here to change the culture,
Speaker 1: he says, he's coming down here to help change the culture.
Speaker 1: Real quick. Going back to Sam Williams, I forget, uh whatever, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just playing along whatever man Williams. Is that okay?
Speaker 1: Do you use the last name that? Sure, Williams. It's
Speaker 1: not a common name at all. Well, now Connor is gone,
Speaker 1: so we'll stick to this Williams. So with him, was
Speaker 1: he outside the question marks and all that? Was he
Speaker 1: like graded as a first round pick talent wise? I
Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't think. I don't think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had a first round grade on him. I mean
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had fourteen first round grades. That's and so no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I doubt very many people had a first
Speaker 1: round grade on him. But in terms of puerability, I
Speaker 1: think we talked about it last week. I mean, his
Speaker 1: tape against very good competition is very good. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: all all feel stuff for him. Right, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's not about his ability. I don't know. I still
Speaker 1: don't know that, Like I don't if he was Captain America,
Speaker 1: I don't know that he would have been a first
Speaker 1: round pick. It's hard. It's hard to answer that question though.
Speaker 1: All this stuff is completely different. Like one team's Cowboys
Speaker 1: are like he's our best second round grade Tyler Smith.
Speaker 1: Somebody else could have him as a third well, like
Speaker 1: every valuation, obviously you looked at a lot of players.
Speaker 1: Do you think he was a guy that would have
Speaker 1: ended up being drafted in the first round, again, understanding
Speaker 1: the premium on the defensive end position, do you think
Speaker 1: he's a first round talent that just had other issues
Speaker 1: that made him be a second round pick. I don't
Speaker 1: feel comfortable saying he would have been a first round
Speaker 1: pick if he had a clean bill, But I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he would have lasted to
Speaker 1: fifty six. Put it that way. I think he would
Speaker 1: have been one of the first guys taken on Day two,
Speaker 1: probably one of the first handful of guys. It sounds
Speaker 1: like the on the field knocks for him is just
Speaker 1: his versatility in the position, and that's just what Ole
Speaker 1: Miss asked him to do get up the field and
Speaker 1: beat these left tackles and get to the quarterback, which
Speaker 1: he did, and but sometimes with that, it's like where
Speaker 1: else can you play him? Can you play him three downs?
Speaker 1: Can he is he just a rusher? Which there's value
Speaker 1: there obviously, But I think that's the question marks he
Speaker 1: had to answer on the field, is what can you
Speaker 1: do with him all the time during the game, Because
Speaker 1: I think that's the difference in Dave will know this
Speaker 1: better than me, but I think that's the difference between
Speaker 1: the rushers that get drafted high in the first round
Speaker 1: and the ones that have you know, have good and
Speaker 1: sack numbers, but they don't necessarily, you know, show that
Speaker 1: they can be a consistent run stop or three down player. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, the more you can do, the more complete
Speaker 1: your picture is, the better off you are, which he'll
Speaker 1: tell you. Like Old Miss asked him to do a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff other than line up out wide like
Speaker 1: he was. He played a lot of like four eye technique,
Speaker 1: like in closer inside the line, doing the dirty work.
Speaker 1: That was a big thing. Oh gosh, I'm drawing a
Speaker 1: blank already. I mean, like, um, people have said that
Speaker 1: thing about guys before where oh oh, think tray Von Walker,
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick, is like, well, Georgia asked
Speaker 1: him to play strong side a lot. He's fantastic against
Speaker 1: the run, and they didn't need him to be a
Speaker 1: pure edge rusher. D Williams has. He has some of
Speaker 1: that to his game. But again, I mean twelve and
Speaker 1: a half sacks in college. I mean, you don't see
Speaker 1: a whole lot of guys do better than that just
Speaker 1: because of the like the limited number of games you play, Like,
Speaker 1: you don't see these twenty sack totals in a college season.
Speaker 1: I mean, twelve and a half is really really good
Speaker 1: in a college season. So he clearly has that ability. So,
Speaker 1: knowing what you know about the other players they have
Speaker 1: at the position and what you think of of d Williams,
Speaker 1: what would be a good year for him this year?
Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily talking about in the way of sacks,
Speaker 1: but more from a standpoint of what role could the
Speaker 1: Cowboys expect him to play. Is he a guy that
Speaker 1: could be competing to be starter type or is he
Speaker 1: a guy that really, you know, you think up more
Speaker 1: as this kind of a pass rush specialist that comes
Speaker 1: in on third downs and kind of gives some extra
Speaker 1: pass rush. Um. I think for me, it starts with
Speaker 1: a good year for him is no issues off the
Speaker 1: field that that's a real that's a good start for him.
Speaker 1: No expectations on the field necessarily, know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I think that I think it starts there, got it.
Speaker 1: I think it's for me it starts there and then
Speaker 1: and then just make a you know, be uh. I
Speaker 1: mean if he's a Chauncey Gholston type guy that can
Speaker 1: just contribute at times some special teams but also comes
Speaker 1: in on third down to get some sacks, that would
Speaker 1: be a good year. I mean, I think taking better
Speaker 1: than Layton vendoresh now looking at yeah, I could see
Speaker 1: that be impossible him coming in and just making maybe
Speaker 1: on the field like where you notice him more than
Speaker 1: what Layton has the same role. These names are gonna
Speaker 1: bother me here, like I said this d E and
Speaker 1: other because if he's not listed as a d E,
Speaker 1: what's he going to be listed at linebacker? Sam? Let
Speaker 1: see what you're doing, Williams. Sam goes by saying but no,
Speaker 1: he's not going by Sam, but he is a Sam.
Speaker 1: Or what number is fifty four? A successful season for
Speaker 1: him would be like being one of the four primary
Speaker 1: defensive ends. I mean DeMarcus Fowler and Drance would be
Speaker 1: the other ones. If he's one of those four pass
Speaker 1: rush situations passing situations, so be better than play somewhere
Speaker 1: between thirty five and fifty five percent of the snaps. Yeah,
Speaker 1: be awesome if he could be better. Is there going
Speaker 1: to be an odd couple odd man out here? I
Speaker 1: mean twenty five tackles a young guy. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're giving up on him. We start thinking
Speaker 1: about I mean, you just throw throughout those four names.
Speaker 1: Golston wasn't mentioned, are Bashim wasn't mentioned there. Obviously, bash
Speaker 1: Him is a veteran. If the Cowboys side they don't
Speaker 1: need him, they could always move away. Golston's not somebody
Speaker 1: I wouldn't think that they're ready to give up on it.
Speaker 1: That's on my point. So so where does where does
Speaker 1: that all lay out? Gholston's got some good versatility to
Speaker 1: go inside. That's I mean, DeMarcus Fowler, Williams Dance even
Speaker 1: throw in bash him yea, even I haven't said Golston yea.
Speaker 1: That gives you six And so that's fine right there.
Speaker 1: I mean, six defensive ends is pretty normal. And then
Speaker 1: consider the fact that Golston has inside flex and even
Speaker 1: to some degree, Tank does too. I wasn't even talking
Speaker 1: so much about making the team as much as who's
Speaker 1: going to get the snaps, Like you want to keep
Speaker 1: developing Golston, He's gonna need snaps to keep developing. Well,
Speaker 1: the snaps comes down to where what else you could do? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but but if if you've got if Basham's
Speaker 1: just a little bit better than Golston is, but Golston
Speaker 1: is helping you on special teams or Durrance is helping
Speaker 1: you on special teams or whatever, then those guys play.
Speaker 1: But you know, it always works itself out. We know that. Ye.
Speaker 1: I mean those are those are the those are the
Speaker 1: quintessential situations where like the team would probably love to
Speaker 1: get cheaper, you know, well, I mean, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to fire Terrell Basham, but he's not making enough money,
Speaker 1: Like he's got to have a good camp Fowler like
Speaker 1: sounds weird to say, and I don't think he would
Speaker 1: be cut, but they are not tied to him. If
Speaker 1: if they get to camp and Williams is just that dude,
Speaker 1: and Gholston takes a step. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: that would surprise me. But they're not tied to either
Speaker 1: of those guys financially. Yeah, they just gave you flexibility
Speaker 1: when it came to draft it. Right, that's Cowboys special.
Speaker 1: That's what they like to do. For some reason, I
Speaker 1: keep seeing him, I don't know, like to me, in
Speaker 1: my mind when I visualize the team and the defense,
Speaker 1: I just see him fitting better. And I know he's
Speaker 1: a defensive end, like that's how they drafted him, but
Speaker 1: I see him fitting better as a linebacker like rotating
Speaker 1: somehow and helping in that part of it. Just because no,
Speaker 1: and I'm trying to put that on the side, but
Speaker 1: just watching like some of his tape and seeing the
Speaker 1: way that he plays. I didn't even mention him, right,
Speaker 1: but that's like is he going to be and that's
Speaker 1: that's still more rips, right, Yeah, but that's and to
Speaker 1: your point about Williams, Mike is the same way, like
Speaker 1: just overhang those guys on the formation. Yeah, Like I
Speaker 1: bet d Williams will play some standing up expect like hey,
Speaker 1: good point, get out there, hang off of the end.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll have five down linemen, and one of
Speaker 1: them will be d Williams sort of standing there looking
Speaker 1: like he's about to take off from first base. Just
Speaker 1: club your way around the tackle and get home. You
Speaker 1: don't worry about Okay, how do you envision the linebackers?
Speaker 1: Then the group? Um, hold on, Before I get to that,
Speaker 1: I want to say this one thing about Mica And
Speaker 1: you say, you guys kind of looks alike and all that.
Speaker 1: If if Mica can spread that wing a little bit
Speaker 1: and d Williams falls under that and they they are together,
Speaker 1: I like that. I think somebody needs to do that.
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to whoever that is. And I know Mike
Speaker 1: is still young himself, and he's not too far removed
Speaker 1: from a guy that thought people thought had character issues
Speaker 1: or whatever. But he loves football. He works at getting better.
Speaker 1: If if that can be a connection a form, that
Speaker 1: would be outstanding, if that can happen. To answer your question, linebackers, Um,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's up in the air. I mean
Speaker 1: Layton Van Reesh and Micah Layton, Micah Cox and curse
Speaker 1: Boom done good, Luke Gifford too. That's cool. He can
Speaker 1: he can play, he can join anything. Do you think
Speaker 1: Devin Harper will even like have a chance to battle
Speaker 1: for that. I think he will. We answer a mail
Speaker 1: back about this, like just spitballing, just trying to predict
Speaker 1: the future. I bet he'll make the team and it'll
Speaker 1: be mainly to play special teams and be on kick
Speaker 1: and punt team and all that stuff. I put him
Speaker 1: his third most reps among all the Ricky draft picks,
Speaker 1: Devin Harper, third most behind Tyler Smith. And then I
Speaker 1: think it's either gonna be Tolbert or Ferguson. It's gotta
Speaker 1: be Tolbert, right to be, don't have to be. I
Speaker 1: just assume they're gonna him early on. And I think
Speaker 1: if he's as ready as you say is, then once
Speaker 1: you get him in there, I think he's gonna continue
Speaker 1: to get opportunities, and you know how that goes again.
Speaker 1: Receivers will get injured and he'll be playing. See Ferguson
Speaker 1: playing a lot. I could see him just being a
Speaker 1: lot of two tight endsets and I see him out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say they could pivot away and try to
Speaker 1: play twelve personnel until Gallup comes back. Like there's no
Speaker 1: way to know how they can want to play that
Speaker 1: I will say I feel fine about how the linebacker
Speaker 1: situation work looks. As long as everybody stays healthy. It's
Speaker 1: completely fair to say you haven't given yourself a whole
Speaker 1: lot of insurance there. If that isn't the case, well great, Dave.
Speaker 1: You just set us up. We're gonna take a break.
Speaker 1: When we come back. I'm gonna ask you guys where
Speaker 1: the holes still exist on this team? Linebacker maybe one them.
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Speaker 1: from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we're
Speaker 1: talking about the rookie class. They will be in on
Speaker 1: Thursday to start the rookie manning camp practices on Friday
Speaker 1: and Saturday. Here's a question for you guys. What will
Speaker 1: the holes or what holes do you think still exist
Speaker 1: on this team after the draft that maybe the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will have to address in free agent. Address in free
Speaker 1: agency at some point and how should they address them?
Speaker 1: I mean, we spend a decent amount of time on
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I just and they've already said they're
Speaker 1: not going to do it, so that's fine. We'll see
Speaker 1: how it goes. But I could see a scenario where
Speaker 1: you don't feel good about your swing tackle at some
Speaker 1: point this summer, maybe during training camp, maybe during roster cuts.
Speaker 1: Give Tyler Smith the benefit of the doubt. But if
Speaker 1: he and I feel fine that he'll be good or
Speaker 1: he'll be But I mean if he's not and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, now Connor McGovern is, you know, that's
Speaker 1: not a wonderful situation to be in. But we'll give
Speaker 1: We'll give Tyler Smith the benefit of the doubt. I
Speaker 1: feel okay about that. Um after offensive line or specifically
Speaker 1: swing tackle, I would say linebacker, like I just said
Speaker 1: in the last segment. Yeah, I mean, I'm tired of
Speaker 1: saying that I think center is a problem because they
Speaker 1: don't so well they obviously may I mean I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say obviously may. It's obvious to me that they're at
Speaker 1: least thinking about it because they're looking at Fanniac right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they also signed two undrafted guys, not that that
Speaker 1: that is not a you know what I mean, a
Speaker 1: late draft pick, So it's not like he's like was
Speaker 1: brought in here to take his job. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I think they're looking at and saying all the better
Speaker 1: options at least asking that question. Well, you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's a fair that's a fair point. But also you
Speaker 1: could say you had nine draft picks and you didn't
Speaker 1: take any of them, and you had a chance to
Speaker 1: take you know, I think you had a chance to
Speaker 1: take the best center in the draft, whoever they think
Speaker 1: that is. They were all available to them. That maybe
Speaker 1: they think that this is a very weak draft class.
Speaker 1: You know, they probably do, But I'm just saying they
Speaker 1: didn't even you know, you're you're you're going to go
Speaker 1: off of Farniok, who hasn't played as many snaps at
Speaker 1: center as McGovern. So you know, they didn't really thrown
Speaker 1: anybody else out there a little bit. Couldn't that also
Speaker 1: be the fact, though, that the positions that they did
Speaker 1: draft they felt like were a higher priority than say
Speaker 1: that center that you were talking about. And that takes
Speaker 1: all back to what I'm saying. They don't view that
Speaker 1: issue as much as I as I do. I just
Speaker 1: think it's still seems to be a problem. But if
Speaker 1: they're if they're going to keep trying to get him developed,
Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean that's what they did with Terrence
Speaker 1: Steele and it worked. Is there a position that they
Speaker 1: did draft in the first two days, let's say, for example,
Speaker 1: where you felt like that position was less of an
Speaker 1: important position for them than center. Um yeah, that that
Speaker 1: defensive end edge rusher position, because yeah what d yeah anyways,
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I would have I would have
Speaker 1: taken a center there, but um, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: as sold and I haven't seen as much tape, so
Speaker 1: I just get maybe I'm going with the small school there,
Speaker 1: but I just I'm not as sold as t toldber
Speaker 1: going to come right in and help at receiver. I
Speaker 1: still think they have some issues at receiver. Um, they're
Speaker 1: just banking on a South Alabama rookie to be good,
Speaker 1: or James Washington to finally kind of resurrect his career
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, the kind of banking on something
Speaker 1: or Gallop getting healthy or CD proving that he could
Speaker 1: be number one when he hasn't shown that yet. Well,
Speaker 1: he's already number one, right, proving to be a worthy
Speaker 1: number one that you can count on every game, including
Speaker 1: the playoffs, when you're getting beat by the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: show up. That's all I'm saying. Prove that he hasn't
Speaker 1: proven that has he known? But Cooper had neat Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know that Cooper was
Speaker 1: a he showed up every game, Like, seriously, he showed
Speaker 1: up enough. Yeah, I mean he's taken over enough games
Speaker 1: in his career. I get that he had some and
Speaker 1: some really great games. I don't think I don't think
Speaker 1: that every game they relied on him agreed. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: that's their m O anyway. Okay, and maybe maybe it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows whether it's them, whether it's him,
Speaker 1: whether it's the quarterback. Like, there's a lot of different
Speaker 1: factors of what that could what could be the issue there.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he was like a consistent every
Speaker 1: game he was like and they traded him for a
Speaker 1: bag of chip. So my point is is that that's
Speaker 1: still the problem. But none of the receivers you have
Speaker 1: have to me, they all have some kind of major
Speaker 1: question marks. Whether can they take it to the next level,
Speaker 1: can they be quality? I mean, there's they all have
Speaker 1: their question marks, and so that's that's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm very high on Jalen Tolder, but it's undeniable. They
Speaker 1: purposefully got worse at that position and they're not They're
Speaker 1: not better than they were, and they just yeah, we
Speaker 1: didn't even mention Cedric, but yeah, Cooper and Cedric together,
Speaker 1: they purposefully got worse. I mean, losing Cedric. There's only
Speaker 1: so much you can do. But they sent a Mario away.
Speaker 1: They clearly wasn't about money at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: They feel that way, that's fine, we'll see if they're right.
Speaker 1: I don't think they are. I don't either. I would
Speaker 1: have I would have restructured a mari and not signed Gallop.
Speaker 1: That's what I would have done. And if if I
Speaker 1: would have had Jalen Tilbert in the third round, he
Speaker 1: still draft them there because you still could get James Washington.
Speaker 1: You can still do that. But I would have liked
Speaker 1: that situation better. Bus they're going to be catching balls
Speaker 1: this weekend as opposed to you know, the chords and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I saw I saw Gallop the
Speaker 1: other day like out there. I mean, I think it's good.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's a you know, I don't know
Speaker 1: much about acl injuries and when they come back and
Speaker 1: all that, but you just know what the guy's able
Speaker 1: to do here at early May or mid May. You know,
Speaker 1: it seems optimistic. He seems like he's where he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, So yeah, I think I agree with
Speaker 1: you guys. I think that they're probably as many question
Speaker 1: marks at the wide receiver position as an any position
Speaker 1: on this team. Although I think they've addressed it from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of a numbers game, like they got numbers
Speaker 1: at this point. It's just they all got question marks.
Speaker 1: Like you said, can everybody take the next step up? Right?
Speaker 1: Everybody has to take the next step up And although
Speaker 1: you know, although CD is he was the number one
Speaker 1: receiver last year statistically, he didn't have to do it
Speaker 1: without Anamaria on the opposite side. That's the part that
Speaker 1: you got to think about, figure out what that looks
Speaker 1: like the game, yeah, and see what happened exactly. So
Speaker 1: that's the part that I think there's just a lot
Speaker 1: of questions at that position, and I think that they
Speaker 1: addressed it as they see fit. And I don't have
Speaker 1: as much of a problem with the move from Amari
Speaker 1: if it is what I think it is, which is
Speaker 1: they felt like maybe they wanted a different kind of
Speaker 1: mentality at the receiver position, which that's fair if they
Speaker 1: want to go with somebody seems to be a little
Speaker 1: bit more, you know, kind of cut your throat kind
Speaker 1: of player. By all means to do that, if that's
Speaker 1: what you choose to do. But I don't think that
Speaker 1: just from a pure ability standpoint, I don't think they
Speaker 1: got better. And I mean, clear Ma was the same
Speaker 1: guy the whole time he was here, as far I'm aware,
Speaker 1: and that it led to some really successful moments, not
Speaker 1: all the time, You're right, but to just be like
Speaker 1: this is so bad that we got to get rid
Speaker 1: of it right now, and our receiver corps will be
Speaker 1: lesser because of it. Coming off of a twelve and
Speaker 1: five season, it's just hard to record. So well, you
Speaker 1: know what I do one day, if they could have
Speaker 1: drafted Tilbert, like Manick just said, they could have still
Speaker 1: drafted Tilbert with a mari on the team, and then
Speaker 1: maybe even you've got a long term succession plan, like
Speaker 1: this guy can sit and develop for a year, and
Speaker 1: if he only catches fifteen passes, that's not the end
Speaker 1: of the world. And then next year we can talk
Speaker 1: about the future. But now it's like, no, this guy
Speaker 1: needs to be good right away. Could Could it be
Speaker 1: the fact that Cowboys decision makers saw what happened against
Speaker 1: San Francisco, They saw that final half quarter of the
Speaker 1: season where it felt like it felt like in a
Speaker 1: lot of situations, the Cowboys were getting beat up, and
Speaker 1: maybe they just felt like, yeah, we got some talented guys,
Speaker 1: but we don't have enough guys that that when we're
Speaker 1: getting beat up, are willing to kind of be willing
Speaker 1: to fight back. And I don't want to make it
Speaker 1: seem like they weren't playing hard. That wasn't the issue,
Speaker 1: I don't think. I just think that just that mentality.
Speaker 1: It's the mentality of way San Francisco came in there.
Speaker 1: It's just a different kind of mentality. The Niners bullied them,
Speaker 1: and there every pick they made looks like it was
Speaker 1: aimed at addressing that fright, right, I keep going back
Speaker 1: to the New England game. You know, I think we
Speaker 1: all think that Bill Belichick's one of the greatest to
Speaker 1: ever do it, if not the best. He told you
Speaker 1: who he thought was the best player on the team,
Speaker 1: and he tried to take him out of the game.
Speaker 1: Plus if you look at the salaries. Now, yeah, you
Speaker 1: look at the pretty nice, doesn't it. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: about money. We all we've all said that we know
Speaker 1: that money was not the driver of this. I don't
Speaker 1: think I think it. I mean, I've said it before.
Speaker 1: It it all snowballs together. I think money was in
Speaker 1: the front seat. I mean, yes, I mean, don't you
Speaker 1: don't think I think it was a byproduct. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: think I think that they wanted a different kind of receiver.
Speaker 1: I honestly do. I don't think it was about the money,
Speaker 1: because it wouldn't like they turned around and use that
Speaker 1: money on a lot of other stuff. Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think it was about the money. Well, I mean, they
Speaker 1: could have kept him and they would have been in
Speaker 1: a in a they would not have been in a
Speaker 1: bad cap situation. Right, Um, I mean it depends on
Speaker 1: what they had the restructure. They they'd have the restructure
Speaker 1: and then but yeah, they didn't sound like maybe he
Speaker 1: wanted to do Yeah, they didn't really want to restructure.
Speaker 1: I do think money was a factor. Clearly, they had
Speaker 1: their reasons to do what they did and make the
Speaker 1: decisions that they made. But as I'm sitting here listening
Speaker 1: to you guys, I'm just I find it so hard
Speaker 1: to think that this season, as the team looks right now,
Speaker 1: it's gonna turn out okay for the Cowboys. Like I
Speaker 1: am having a hard time visualizing that because you talked
Speaker 1: about the wide receiver position. I just think they did
Speaker 1: take a step back overall, and they're counting on so
Speaker 1: many young guys all around the offense. And you look
Speaker 1: at the oline. We keep talking about the oline. I
Speaker 1: look at a game or I think I'm not trusting
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith to be there. I think we can all
Speaker 1: agree on that that at some point he's going to
Speaker 1: come out of the game. What does that look like? Now?
Speaker 1: Then you got a guy like Dad Prescott that got
Speaker 1: injured two years ago, came back, Okay, he's doing great.
Speaker 1: Then he reinjured himself. What was it the shoulder? Then
Speaker 1: he went through the procedures. He's coming back. He looks
Speaker 1: healthy and everything like that. But that's still in the
Speaker 1: back of your mind, you know, being cautious of that.
Speaker 1: Then you see how the running game was affected. Now
Speaker 1: you're trying to count on these young guys to be
Speaker 1: able to protect to help the run game the past game,
Speaker 1: then also white receivers to hope that they do what
Speaker 1: they need to do to hope that city Land and
Speaker 1: I think that city Land can definitely be that guy,
Speaker 1: but the players around him while he's trying to do that,
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be really really hard for them to
Speaker 1: be able to accomplish all of that with all those
Speaker 1: moving pieces and make it work as well as they
Speaker 1: did last year with what they've got. And I think
Speaker 1: that clearly they've putting a lot of trust on a
Speaker 1: lot of people, but I can't see it. I really
Speaker 1: can't you know ultimately who they're putting their trust in.
Speaker 1: Dak like this is all like this is what happens
Speaker 1: when you pay a quarterback huge money like that is
Speaker 1: at some point you gotta be like man, you have
Speaker 1: to be the man, and sometimes you got to be
Speaker 1: the man when others around you are not. So it
Speaker 1: might just be the situation that can Da be that
Speaker 1: kind of guy. We don't know. We don't know, but
Speaker 1: we've seen. We can only talk about and speak about
Speaker 1: what we've seen so far, and what we've seen is
Speaker 1: that he is the kind of guy who does need
Speaker 1: help around him. And yes, he can make great throws.
Speaker 1: We've seen the way that he's the developed as a
Speaker 1: player from when he started to where he's at now
Speaker 1: being able to throw down feel he's improved so much
Speaker 1: in that aspect. But he needs help around him and
Speaker 1: I haven't seen We haven't, I mean unless you guys
Speaker 1: saw plays that I missed, But we haven't seen him
Speaker 1: be the guy that the team can fully rely on.
Speaker 1: He needs the protection at least, and he needs those
Speaker 1: guys that can catch the ball for him. This conversation
Speaker 1: doesn't sit right with me, because they all do and
Speaker 1: we've seen it time and time again. Patrick Mahomes was
Speaker 1: nothing without his offensive line he had. He's got arguably
Speaker 1: the best like duo of past catchers in the league.
Speaker 1: And now we're about to find out just how I mean.
Speaker 1: I know he's amazing, but we'll see what do you
Speaker 1: look without? What do you look like without Tyreek Hill?
Speaker 1: Everybody needs help and the Tharon Rodgers might be the
Speaker 1: only exception in the NFL right now because he's had
Speaker 1: to kind of adapt to different receivers. Well do you
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys have given Dak no no? And what
Speaker 1: rubs me the wrong way is that they got rid
Speaker 1: of a lot of it needlessly. We'll see, and I yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they're setting him up for a bad time
Speaker 1: this year at least. And that's why I go back
Speaker 1: to the fact that I just like they're they're not
Speaker 1: better for twenty twenty two, and I think deep in
Speaker 1: the recesses of their inner sanctum, I think they're okay
Speaker 1: with that. Because they play in a week division. They
Speaker 1: can still make the playoffs with They can make the
Speaker 1: playoffs with this team. Once again, Dave set up the
Speaker 1: next second so far perfectly. We're gonna take our final break.
Speaker 1: When to come back, We're gonna talk about schedule release.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about some of the matchups that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have, some interesting matchups. There was also one of
Speaker 1: the games I was released today that we do know already.
Speaker 1: When that's gonna happen, we'll talk about that. We'll come back.
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Speaker 1: of The Break Life in the s WBC Mortgage Studios
Speaker 1: at the Star And tomorrow is the day the schedule
Speaker 1: is released. I'm very excited. We got some surprises for
Speaker 1: you fans out there. I have not have I have
Speaker 1: I seen what the schedule. I'm not gonna answer that question,
Speaker 1: but they're the schedule will be released for the general
Speaker 1: public on tomorrow and uh yeah, yeah, and uh and
Speaker 1: we have we'll have some weap video as we do
Speaker 1: every year. Last year, if you remember, it was the
Speaker 1: post malone video. This year, it'll be some other little
Speaker 1: surprises for you guys. And um, what what are you laughing?
Speaker 1: Because I've heard some whispers of what that could be,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I haven't seen it yet. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's going to be good. It's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: I wonder. I love the you said it. You're you're like,
Speaker 1: this is the super Bowl for more digital media teams,
Speaker 1: like this is the event every year where you measure
Speaker 1: yourself against the rest of the league and everybody else
Speaker 1: is like you still only the freaking games. I don't
Speaker 1: care the schedule. Yeah, I don't know. I think playing
Speaker 1: fans have kind of gotten you no No, and and
Speaker 1: the really good ones are great, like the post video
Speaker 1: was amazing. I'll never forget the one the Falcons did
Speaker 1: that was like Game of Thrones a few years ago.
Speaker 1: That one they controlled the Saints. I don't remember in
Speaker 1: the middle of it. There's usually like an Easter egg
Speaker 1: in there somewhere. They are cool and I will enjoy
Speaker 1: a few of them, but at the same time, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just get a PDF with the games, can't I'm
Speaker 1: trying to book flights, I'm trying to figure things out
Speaker 1: on the website, and you could just look at just
Speaker 1: all the Yeah, I know the videos are just for
Speaker 1: just for the fun of it, right, Like as a
Speaker 1: matter of fact, like in our video, the schedule is
Speaker 1: only up for like a few seconds of the video,
Speaker 1: Like it's a long video, but it's only up for
Speaker 1: a few seconds. The schedule is kind of irrelevant to it,
Speaker 1: which is kind of like just to do something fun.
Speaker 1: It's like how the Super Bowl has become such a
Speaker 1: big deal for advertising agencies. Yeah, I mean, and and well,
Speaker 1: I think what makes it fun about these videos is
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I mean, you don't always bat a thousand,
Speaker 1: so like like there's some times when you're like, yeah, okay, no,
Speaker 1: let's try it next year. Yeah. And by the way,
Speaker 1: that's one of the beautiful things about working here. I've
Speaker 1: had ownership tell me a number of times, look, whyn't
Speaker 1: you guys a swing for the fences. Sometimes that means
Speaker 1: you're gonna strike out, like it's okay, but go out
Speaker 1: going for something that's really cool and interesting and so yeah.
Speaker 1: There have been some years we thought it might do
Speaker 1: well and it just didn't do so well. There are
Speaker 1: other years that it went really crazy and people loved it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you just you It's with any creative work, right,
Speaker 1: best and see how it goes. I don't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: I do think this is gonna be pretty interesting because
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little bit shocking, a little bit surprising.
Speaker 1: So we'll see as I'm looking up. Um, okay, so
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. Here's the schedule. We do
Speaker 1: know today. There was a game that was announced today
Speaker 1: that we already know. November thirteenth. We will be heading
Speaker 1: to lambeau Field in Green Bay, three twenty five kick time,
Speaker 1: expecting a blizzard. Nick Or did the Cowboys kind of
Speaker 1: escape one because anytime you know, you gotta go to
Speaker 1: Green Bay, you always are looking at that date of
Speaker 1: when that game is gonna fall, right, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna be cold. I mean, but I definitely think
Speaker 1: that you escaped that. Um yeah, I mean that's that's
Speaker 1: good for both though. I mean, but think about it too,
Speaker 1: like to be the team that the Cowboys probably need.
Speaker 1: They're gonna need to run the football better. So you know,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, they escaped the cold weather. But to
Speaker 1: be the team, like I said that they want to be,
Speaker 1: I mean, they shouldn't be. Was worried about games like that,
Speaker 1: you know, I'd rather I mean, we saw Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They couldn't function. I don't think they
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown. I think they had a block. Maybe
Speaker 1: that was the forty Niners had to block. They might
Speaker 1: have scored one touchdown, but he wasn't the same. So
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying it's really a great thing
Speaker 1: to be. Oh lost, the weather's gonna be great. Aaron
Speaker 1: rod just can throw it around the yard. I mean,
Speaker 1: like you know, I mean for us, yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: have to pack like the you know, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't have to pack your fur coat. But average temperature
Speaker 1: on November thirteenth and Green Bay is about forty. It
Speaker 1: was thirty five for their game that weekend last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's a wine place in the world.
Speaker 1: That's that's actually really great weather for a football game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you're talking low forties, maybe upper thirties. That's
Speaker 1: a pretty good game in the NFL. If there's five
Speaker 1: when you're speaking, that's way too cold for you studio.
Speaker 1: I mean, go into our studio and that happens there.
Speaker 1: All right. So you look at some of the teams
Speaker 1: that Cowboys are gonna play this year. We do know
Speaker 1: that they got home games against the MFC East. They
Speaker 1: got Chicago, Detroit, Tampa Bay, Indie, Houston, and Cincinnati. Are
Speaker 1: your last Chicago? Do you have Chicago schedule? I'm more
Speaker 1: worried about Chicago. Why, Well, Chicago is a home game.
Speaker 1: That's a home game. Yeah, home game, so they're coming here,
Speaker 1: so we're not worried about that. Uh yeah, Well that's
Speaker 1: been the coldest I've ever been is at that game
Speaker 1: that was at on the road. Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: cold gang all right. And then on the road they've
Speaker 1: got the NFC East again, Green Bay, Minnesota, the Rams, Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: and Tennessee. Dave, you mentioned it a little earlier. They
Speaker 1: have the easiest schedule in if NFL. If you want
Speaker 1: to look at it from the standpoint of the win
Speaker 1: loss record of their opponents in twenty twenty one. My
Speaker 1: question for you guys, how much does that matter? It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter every every year. We do this every every year.
Speaker 1: You're trying to assign wins and losses based on what
Speaker 1: the schedule looks like in May. And nobody in their
Speaker 1: right mind saw the Bengals making a run at the
Speaker 1: super Bowl like all of us. You know, this time
Speaker 1: last year, you're like, it should be a win. That's
Speaker 1: I mean, we're better like Burrows good, but we're better
Speaker 1: than the Bengals. Now it's like, well, crap, the super
Speaker 1: Bowl runner ups coming to town. Like, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: ridiculous to try to guess this stuff. Having said that,
Speaker 1: I do think there's a difference. I say this all
Speaker 1: the time. There's like four teams that are clearly better
Speaker 1: than everyone, and four teams that are clearly worse, and
Speaker 1: then the rest is anybody's guests. But a few of
Speaker 1: those teams that are clearly very bad are on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys schedule, Like you shouldn't if they make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: can come. I'll eat all the crow you want. Like,
Speaker 1: you should be able to beat Houston, Detroit, Chicago, like
Speaker 1: those three teams. I hold off on Jacksonville. Really you
Speaker 1: hold off on jackson I'm not saying Jacksonville is going
Speaker 1: to like make the playoffs, but I hold off on
Speaker 1: saying Jacksonville is gonna be absolutely terrible. I mean with
Speaker 1: the investments that they've made. Actually, I just I mean
Speaker 1: with the amount of money that they've spent. I still
Speaker 1: don't know why they gave Christian Kirk eighteen million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. But like, their offensive line looks nice. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they've added a badass pass rusher to
Speaker 1: go with Josh Allen. They sign a bunch of linebackers. Like,
Speaker 1: do I think they're gonna be amazing? No, But I
Speaker 1: would be shocked if they pick first in the draft. Like,
Speaker 1: I think that's a team that's capable of winning five
Speaker 1: or six games. Yeah, but I'll even throw them in there.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys should beat the Jacks. I will
Speaker 1: say that that's four games that you should win right there, Jacksonville, Houston, Detroit, Chicago,
Speaker 1: you should win those games. And then you've got just
Speaker 1: the opposite of that. You've got some really tough games
Speaker 1: against some of those teams you said that, you know
Speaker 1: we're gonna be good, Tampa Bay, the Rams, like, it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the Cowboys have you know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of feast or fami. You got some of the
Speaker 1: worst teams in the league. You got some of the
Speaker 1: best teams in the league. Not a lot of in
Speaker 1: between there. But going back to my point from the
Speaker 1: last segment, if you can sweep those four potential awful teams,
Speaker 1: a few of which will probably be fighting for the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick Houston, and then you got the
Speaker 1: division where they've dominated for most of Dak's career when
Speaker 1: he's been healthy. Four and two in the division plus
Speaker 1: four wins against I mean, you're all of the eight
Speaker 1: already at eight like, and that's why I sit here.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, maybe the Cowboys are okay with taking
Speaker 1: a slight step back, because if they just handle their
Speaker 1: business in the games they should win. They'll be a
Speaker 1: playoff team. And I'm not saying that's good enough for
Speaker 1: fans that are listening to me. But I can see
Speaker 1: the rationale there of like I can't, which I appreciate
Speaker 1: that viewpoint because I'm tired of hearing that. I'm tired
Speaker 1: of hearing yeah they don't care. Yeah, like you look
Speaker 1: at it, Oh, it should be an easy schedule for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. How does that help them? Really? Okay, we
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs over whatever, But then we're embarrassed
Speaker 1: because you see the reality of things when you are
Speaker 1: coming up against better teams and throughout the season we're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's look good. Well what matters is the win? Yeah,
Speaker 1: sure it does matter, but how much is that really
Speaker 1: helping them? We saw it happen last year where they
Speaker 1: faced a lot of teams that weren't really that good,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys might have looked better than what they
Speaker 1: really were, and maybe we start being hypnotized by that
Speaker 1: or like seeing this illusion of what they were creating
Speaker 1: when in reality they weren't what we thought they were
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year. So this whole thing
Speaker 1: of like, sure, easy schedule, whatever, they get to the
Speaker 1: playoffs and then what we're again, we're sitting here another year,
Speaker 1: No ye're repeating the same thing over and over. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely saying what every fan out there
Speaker 1: total thinking right now and it has been thinking to
Speaker 1: since the end of this year, is they're not going
Speaker 1: to get full this upcoming year by what happens in
Speaker 1: the regular season, because I think that's where a lot
Speaker 1: of people were upset. They felt like, I thought this
Speaker 1: team was one thing, and then we got to the
Speaker 1: second half of the year and we got to the
Speaker 1: playoffs and I found out they were something different. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that's the hard part for fans right now.
Speaker 1: That's the juxtaposition that they're in is how much do
Speaker 1: I want to buy in and believe what I see
Speaker 1: in the season versus what I think they'll be in
Speaker 1: the postseason. That is your right as a fan, And
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you you should be excited by that.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what their rationale might be for like,
Speaker 1: very quietly, they're like, Okay, we take a step back
Speaker 1: this year, we clean up our cap. We can still
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and you never know what's going to
Speaker 1: happen once we get there, and then in twenty three
Speaker 1: and twenty four we can make moves toward really improving
Speaker 1: this team. It shouldn't make you feel better about this year,
Speaker 1: and it's I think it's for us. It's a straighting
Speaker 1: mentality if that is their mentality. But I can see
Speaker 1: the logic unless, of course, unless, of course, it is
Speaker 1: what I think it might be, that they're trying to
Speaker 1: remake the as Jalen said, the culture of this team,
Speaker 1: like they're trying to build this team in a way
Speaker 1: that maybe has either a little bit less talent but
Speaker 1: a lot more bravado and a lot more attitude, or
Speaker 1: equal talent and more bravado and attitude. It seems it
Speaker 1: seems like a very cowboys thing to between the way
Speaker 1: that they run the ball, the way that they get
Speaker 1: after the quarterback, and the way that they're physical and
Speaker 1: kind of got some s in their neck like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are like, Yeah, the forty nine ers got this
Speaker 1: thing figured out. We want to be like that. I
Speaker 1: can see that. Yeah, perfectly, that's me too, Like, that's
Speaker 1: that's what I think I'm seeing. Now. Again, I've not
Speaker 1: been told that that's what I think. I'm just guessing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we kind of I don't remember if we talked
Speaker 1: about this on the break or not. But it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting because this year is a very very important year
Speaker 1: for someone in a high position of power, which is
Speaker 1: the head coach. And you know clearly there's no possible
Speaker 1: way that he's gonna take this lightly or whatever. He's
Speaker 1: gonna try the best that he can to make it
Speaker 1: happy years. Yeah, this is I mean, this is a
Speaker 1: proven like, this is it I think for him. We
Speaker 1: all talked about it this past i mean this offseason,
Speaker 1: So we'll see what he can actually do with what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have given him. So when the schedule comes
Speaker 1: out tomorrow, what do you guys typically look for? What
Speaker 1: do you look for in a schedule to kind of
Speaker 1: figure out you want the honest answer to that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can give me the honest answer, and then you
Speaker 1: can tell me the answer from the standpoint of the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I know it's personal. Yeah, I mean I look at like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got a wedding, I'm supposed to be at. What
Speaker 1: weekend is that? Like? When when's the bye week? Who's
Speaker 1: LSU playing during the bye week? Like it's purely selfish
Speaker 1: on my end, And then after the first twenty and
Speaker 1: it's once I've got all that, let's talk about the yeah.
Speaker 1: Then I'm like, oh man, they play a lot of
Speaker 1: road games in December. Who's the team before Thanksgiving? I
Speaker 1: think that's all. I mean, Kansas City beat the hell
Speaker 1: out of them the game before Thanksgiving last year. I
Speaker 1: think the wear and tear in that in that situation
Speaker 1: and whether or not you have to travel, uh, that
Speaker 1: type of stuff. Yeah, and when when the bye comes,
Speaker 1: Like if they get to training camp on July twenty fifth,
Speaker 1: how long are they playing football before they get a break?
Speaker 1: Stuff like that? Holidays, you know, Thanksgiving. You know they
Speaker 1: have two this year because Christmas Day is on a
Speaker 1: Sunday this year, so its possibility could be playing is
Speaker 1: they're playing on Christmas Day too? Sorry, Mom and Dad?
Speaker 1: Which that's all My road becomes a big deal for
Speaker 1: that game, I don't think. I don't think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are they all on Christmas Day? Not necessarily, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying it's a Sunday, so there will be a full
Speaker 1: slate of games, all right, it's only three on Sunday,
Speaker 1: the only three on Sunday and all the rest of
Speaker 1: them one day Saturday. I'd be surprised if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are on are on that on Sunday yeah, and because
Speaker 1: the thing is is that they're gonna make those games close,
Speaker 1: you know, geographically. So the Cowboys, well, Houston is Houston.
Speaker 1: They play Houston right yes, home, that that could be that,
Speaker 1: it could be that I could see the Houston being
Speaker 1: that game. Then you think the league cares that much
Speaker 1: about people's travel on Christmas weekend? Go look at it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't mean that in like, I don't believe you know,
Speaker 1: just go look at the last few years on the
Speaker 1: Christmas Day. I mean, like it's Cleveland versus Green Bay.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's probably I don't think you would
Speaker 1: go one day trips. I don't think the teams do that.
Speaker 1: I don't think they allow you to do that. But
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's quick travel, you get home quicker.
Speaker 1: Well early games, Yes, it could be different. One game
Speaker 1: on Christmas, Rams, don't tell me it's Rams versus like
Speaker 1: the Giants, Rams Dolphins. No, Denver, Rams, Denver. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Rams Dolphins that I'm not trying to argue
Speaker 1: with you. But I remember vividly the Vikings played the
Speaker 1: Saints on Christmas a couple of years ago, and that
Speaker 1: ain't I mean, that's not a quick trip. I think it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I bet you there. Here's a go we had?
Speaker 1: Was it Arizona? I think we had on Christmas those
Speaker 1: think about it though, those are pout as good as
Speaker 1: you can get. It was in Seattle, right, I mean Arizona, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: You know I'm only only play the Saints Kansas City
Speaker 1: in Houston so many times. If we travel might be day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so am I writing? So if there's three games on
Speaker 1: Christmas Day, what that means there will be like twelve
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve plus maybe a Thursday night football Yeah,
Speaker 1: which I wouldn't mind if we're Christmas Eve home or way,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. Watch back by Christmas morning. I'm
Speaker 1: okay watch the watch the Cowboys be the Saturday night
Speaker 1: game on Christmas Eve, like seven thirty Christmas Eve. That
Speaker 1: does sound as kind of cowboys, very cowboys. Get it
Speaker 1: for you? Yeah you literally run? Yeah I could. I
Speaker 1: could see that. That sounds kind of fun though to
Speaker 1: be on I like, no see spoken to someone with
Speaker 1: no kids. Hey, better Christmas Eve you have in Christmas Day? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean, like to Derek's point, you'll be home, You'll
Speaker 1: be home on Christmas morning. Problem still is like Christmas
Speaker 1: Eve for all of us that apparently, like you know,
Speaker 1: that's put together time, Like you gotta put all that
Speaker 1: stuff together and get in there. Isn't actually a man
Speaker 1: that shows up at your house and he he does it
Speaker 1: for you, Derek, you don't know who could be listening
Speaker 1: to this. I'm just saying, Okay, sure, but I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like in my house, I get the
Speaker 1: lions here of that he doesn't help me enough, So
Speaker 1: I guess see into the drill, no deal, no, no,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. What's a bummer for me, Like,
Speaker 1: what really depresses me is when Christmas Day is on
Speaker 1: like a Thursday, and you there, you gotta work so
Speaker 1: you can't go home, but it's just practice and press conferences.
Speaker 1: But like when there's a game on a big like
Speaker 1: I'm never bummed about We've talked, we talked about this
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm never bummed about missing Thanksgiving because
Speaker 1: it's the game of the week, everybody's watching, it's a
Speaker 1: big event. You kind of you feel like you're part
Speaker 1: of something. So like to play a game on Christmas
Speaker 1: Eve or Christmas Day would actually be more exciting than
Speaker 1: just being like, well, I couldn't go home to see
Speaker 1: my family, but at least I get to listen to
Speaker 1: Dak's press conference. This is great. So like that, if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, I might as well do it big.
Speaker 1: It's all about perspective. Sure. Yeah, again, this is all
Speaker 1: coming from somebody with no kids and no wife. That's
Speaker 1: totally fair. Yeah, fine, but yeah, it's I'm hopeful. I'm
Speaker 1: hopeful that that wherever we play, it's it's a Christmas Eve,
Speaker 1: because I don't want that Christmas Day one, definitely don't
Speaker 1: want it on the road. That's that's not what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Stuff that really like fans don't care about
Speaker 1: the fans, Oh they don't. They're actually probably like, man,
Speaker 1: it'd be nice to open gifts and then sit down
Speaker 1: and watch the cowboys getting Like that's what they care
Speaker 1: about the fans are I mean? And that's it's fair
Speaker 1: to I mean, we're gonna be looking at you know,
Speaker 1: are they gonna have like a triple triple road game
Speaker 1: or back to back short the walls in December? Like
Speaker 1: that's a huge one. Who what are the cold Yeah?
Speaker 1: You got cold weather cities in December? Like what does December.
Speaker 1: Look like that's to me? Like, you know, I say
Speaker 1: this every year and um and even more so this year.
Speaker 1: I think I haven't seen the schedule yet, but you know,
Speaker 1: I always say Week two is huge, and it's a
Speaker 1: broken record. I say it all the time. What kind
Speaker 1: of team are you gonna be? Are you gonna be
Speaker 1: a team that that you know if you win with
Speaker 1: the first one, or are you going to be a
Speaker 1: team that goes one and one and you're in that
Speaker 1: eight and eight track or eight nine or whatever, or
Speaker 1: are you gonna you're gonna stack some wins together? Or
Speaker 1: if you go oh and one, are you gonna go
Speaker 1: oh and two? I mean, I always think week two
Speaker 1: is a really big year, and uh, it seems like
Speaker 1: this year is even bigger. From what it sounds like
Speaker 1: you're implying something. Yeah, have you seen I haven't seen
Speaker 1: seen the schedule. I just I hear that that Week
Speaker 1: two has has a little ring to it or a
Speaker 1: few rings to it. Oh boy, So that's all I know.
Speaker 1: I just think a week two could be a could
Speaker 1: be a big year, and it always is. I say
Speaker 1: it every single year, watch out for Week two. So
Speaker 1: what so, what do you got was a week to
Speaker 1: last year. I don't remember. Yes, it was, and it
Speaker 1: was the biggest it was and it was the biggest
Speaker 1: win of the year. You think about it, think about
Speaker 1: like again you start off. Oh, I guess from the
Speaker 1: standpoint a lot of things happened out of that game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you found out that your best player on the field,
Speaker 1: it could do everything, do everything. That was a huge game. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was realized wrong, Yeah, I was wrong during that game.
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I was like sitting up there in
Speaker 1: the press, I think I was just like, he's so
Speaker 1: such a good player, why is he not on the
Speaker 1: field this? And the first half it wasn't working. Slater
Speaker 1: was beating him. But he went to the other side
Speaker 1: and he started rushing and it was like, okay, Like
Speaker 1: I could I could see it. But uh and they
Speaker 1: you know, Quinn smarter than me. I guess I'll give it,
Speaker 1: give him that when it comes to deef. So no,
Speaker 1: but I thought that was a huge game. He found
Speaker 1: out Tony Pollard could do a little bit more. He
Speaker 1: found out Terrence Steele can actually block Bosa. You don't
Speaker 1: have to worry about it. There was a little a
Speaker 1: lot of good things you found out your kickers clutch.
Speaker 1: If they could just get a division game or two,
Speaker 1: I'm that I just caught that. Sorry, he always throws it.
Speaker 1: If they could just get a division road game or
Speaker 1: two out of the way early, because remember they had
Speaker 1: to play all the division road games at the end
Speaker 1: of the year last year? Am I right in remembering that?
Speaker 1: Oh all the road games? Isn't that right? Seph Washington?
Speaker 1: Washington was late? Remember late? Wait which one was? It
Speaker 1: would seem like it was one of them that was
Speaker 1: not well, Philly was late. I'm pulling it up. Washing
Speaker 1: was late, and the Giants is always Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: the Giants was. I don't remember at Philly. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: they were all in. They were all they were all in.
Speaker 1: They were all in December. Washington was in December, New
Speaker 1: York was in December, and Philly was in January. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were all at the end of the year. So
Speaker 1: if they could, if they could just get one or
Speaker 1: two of those division road games out of the way,
Speaker 1: they kind of they catch some breaks with on the
Speaker 1: weather front, like we already know they got to go
Speaker 1: to Green Bay in November. That's a break, honestly, And
Speaker 1: then they don't play in a ton of cold weather
Speaker 1: cities other than Division teams, Like they play at Minnesota,
Speaker 1: which is a dome. They play in Nashville, which shouldn't
Speaker 1: ever be super cold. My tempting fah, seriously, it was.
Speaker 1: It was Christmas night. To go back to that Christmas
Speaker 1: Night two thousand, the Cowboys were the worst team they've
Speaker 1: ever been in all remember so bad got beat thirty
Speaker 1: one that Anthony right was our quarterback. I did not
Speaker 1: make that. Yeah, you didn't make that. I like the
Speaker 1: odds of this not biting me in the butt. Nashville
Speaker 1: and LA are the only outdoor road trips outside of
Speaker 1: the Division. Yeah, so it can be cold there in
Speaker 1: Nashville coming off the water Bella. It is it is.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have it's open. It's open. It's technically an
Speaker 1: open air stadium. But even even if it is, it's LA.
Speaker 1: I mean it does. We showed up for the first game,
Speaker 1: was it twenty twenty the first game, and you know,
Speaker 1: of course it was like a the air quality was
Speaker 1: low there. They didn't even know if they're going to
Speaker 1: play the game. And the whole time, I'm like, why
Speaker 1: does this even matter? Like I really thought they had
Speaker 1: a stadium but I think about as the covering. I
Speaker 1: guess that's where there's no is the covering. I thought
Speaker 1: he had a coverage. I'll never It's burned into my brain. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my point. That's the only point I'm making. Like,
Speaker 1: I just think about open air as and I know
Speaker 1: what you guys are saying. I just think of as
Speaker 1: outside temperature has access to the playing field, right, seventy
Speaker 1: four degree right, it's always hilt. They also play they
Speaker 1: play outdoors in Jacksonville, which you also have to think
Speaker 1: about the opposite there in Jacksonville is too hot. It
Speaker 1: can get pretty humid there. Yeah, absolutely, all right, I
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys do want to j While I was
Speaker 1: just mentioning, I think that Jacksonville is the only city
Speaker 1: that the cow in the NFL that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: never won it. I think that's right. Cowboys have never
Speaker 1: won in Jacksonville. I don't think they won. They've What
Speaker 1: about Baltimore, They have won there. It might have been
Speaker 1: three of quit trying to throw the facts around them.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm saying they've won in Jacksonville, not for
Speaker 1: a regular They didn't play a lot, haven't played lot
Speaker 1: and then we went to London when we're play Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's thinking they haven't beaten the Jackals, but that would
Speaker 1: be to open the year. Yeah, you think that's gonna
Speaker 1: happen open the year against Jacksonville again, and that's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I don't think unlikely, that's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: All Right, We appreciate you guys. Johnas we were back tomorrow,
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