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Speaker 1: Prayers to him, prayers to Kodak. You know, I hope

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Speaker 1: It's gone, Yo, that shit that like it won't I

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Speaker 1: But again, prayers the Kodak. I think this time his

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Speaker 1: and the willingness to really get out with these niggas

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Speaker 1: nuke off because soon as you press yours, we press eyes.

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Speaker 1: cross over to where the kids kind of mess with

432
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: you right there. There's a there's a very interesting dynamic

433
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: with this individual. You replace the beds for the seas

434
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: and your communication and your conversation. So this is a

435
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: this is a real effort as it pertains the gang banging.

436
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,400
Speaker 1: But what I think will happen because I don't see

437
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: I see him loving what he do and I see

438
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: him standing for the cripping. I see it when it

439
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: got dp's stood on all ten whatever. I seen it.

440
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: But my mindset told me if he gonna do fifteen years,

441
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: he don't come out the same crip man. Every time

442
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: he came out. He spoke about basically just getting beat on.

443
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: Fight at the fight, at the fight, at the fight,

444
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: And I know you get to a place where you

445
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have to do that. But I don't see

446
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: Krypt being able to take the keys to the car

447
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: like it's almost like that's the position he gonna always

448
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: be in as it pertains to that where it's like

449
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 1: foot soldier like soldier, Like yo, I need to fade bro.

450
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: You got that on your head, that's my hood. I

451
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: ain't taking it off because my hood ain't gonna yet

452
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: my hood, no I. And so now I'm locked in

453
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,199
Speaker 1: this little room. Well for my hood, I keep the

454
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 1: tattoo and for yo hood, I gotta fight you because

455
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: I won't get rid of the tattoo for my hood,

456
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 1: Cause what do my hood think about me? If I

457
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: go get this shit took off of my face? Am

458
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 1: I steal Krip Mac with the tattoos took off? If

459
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 1: I go get that shit took off my head? Do

460
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: he believe that he's still Krip Mac. I want him

461
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: to know he's steal Krip Mac. I don't know if

462
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: he steal Krypt Mac from fifty fifth Street. I don't

463
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: know how they get out and they politics, But you

464
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: steal a man, you steal yourself. But all this for

465
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: the hood, I remember one time telling my kids, I

466
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: wanted to do other people think about that, willis Hood

467
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: accepted him? What Krip Machood have accepted him? If he

468
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: took that off. I think in the midst of fifteen years,

469
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: he'll be able to find some other identification, find another pathway.

470
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 1: And so I thought to myself, like, if Krip Mac

471
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: do fifteen years in the FAS, which is probably eighty percent,

472
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: he won't do the whole fifteenth, but he'll do a

473
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: pretty big chunk of it. He'll be at a crossroads,

474
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: like because I'm sure in that time, I'm sure you

475
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: don't talk like that, You don't really put the b's

476
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: with the seeds that you know what I'm saying, Now,

477
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 1: how much of your life have you been caught in

478
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: this character? And it may be some of it. Maybe

479
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that he's completely one hundred percent acting,

480
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: but I know when them camera's not on him, he's

481
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: a different guy, and so the gang culture capture him,

482
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: and so free Kripmac. You know out there on the

483
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: West Coast. I think it's important to know what you're

484
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: up against. He clearly understood he was up against rival

485
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: gang members, even though he had been a prominent face

486
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 1: online millions and millions of views. I think he was

487
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: in a situation to just look at it like, yo,

488
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: they gonna get me, and they may get me, and

489
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 1: I don't really know how to stay away from him

490
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: because I'm from him and this is just how it works.

491
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: Fifteen years. We'll see if he ends up having to

492
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: do some time. For our next segment, it centers around

493
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: a high profile dispute that's igniting a conversation about the

494
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: involving landscape of media and hip hop. At the center

495
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: of this clash between Nicki Minaj, a powerhouse in the

496
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: rap industry, and Elliott Wilson, a veteran hip hop journalist

497
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: and founder of rap Radar. The controversy erupted when Minaj

498
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 1: participated in the stream with Casinet, a popular Twitch personality,

499
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 1: where she discussed her new album and engaged in a

500
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: dance party. Wilson responded to this by posting a screenshot

501
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: of minaje twerking from the stream with the caption hip

502
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 1: hop journalism. Minaj's retort was swift and pointed, accusing Wilson

503
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: of trying to tarnish her image and failing to support

504
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: new talent in the industry. The incident has sparked debate

505
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: over the definition of journalist in the digital age, particularly

506
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: in the context of hip hop. As we dive into

507
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: this topic, we explore the tension between established and emerging

508
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: forms of media, the changing face of hip hop coverage,

509
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: and the implication of these shifts from artists and journalists alike.

510
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: Join us as we dissect the dynamics. Play by play,

511
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to Nicki Minaj respond to Eliot Wilson.

512
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: They have a job for you, they have a place

513
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: for you. They don't have space for you, and so

514
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: sometimes we get it confused. There's a difference between someone

515
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: having a place for you in space for you, space

516
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: is you get to make your own decision about what

517
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: you do with that area. A place for you is

518
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: a predesigned and designated spot in which you do what

519
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: it needs to be done to stay in that spot.

520
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: This is high level game I'm trying to give you, guys,

521
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: and so for all new media that me included, right,

522
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: they accept you when they can't neglect you, but they

523
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: don't want you to be here and they will not

524
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: do anything to further your occurrences to further your involvement.

525
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 1: There's a handful of people that want to see you win,

526
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: and I've got money with a couple of them. The

527
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: other ones they sell the idea that they want people

528
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: to win, But if you're from the streets, they don't

529
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: even take that long to see that. It's cap who

530
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: you're putting on where they at? What are youngsters you

531
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: putting on that? Every time I see niggas they giving

532
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: help the rich niggas. We don't call that philanthropy where

533
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm from. But in new media, they have a place

534
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: for you, not a space for you. They hope you

535
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: work for them, not work with them. Working with them

536
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: is too much like competition in their eyes, because they

537
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: ain't securing the spot that they've been placed in for

538
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: twenty years, for five years, for ten years, just they've

539
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: been ahead for so long. If you get close, they

540
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: get scared. Nicki Minaj did often what we saw Little

541
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 1: Baby do with me, and she went and done some

542
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: new media for her role out Coxinette not being new

543
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: in the same terms that I was new, but Cosinette

544
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: being new as it pertains to sitting with an artists

545
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: on the role out of this magnitude these things are

546
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: not traditional marketing, and so you see an adverse reaction

547
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: for the people that's ahead of us. When you saw

548
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: me come, they say the audacity of Charlemagne had had

549
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: that conversation with this guy. They didn't know. Charlemagne had

550
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: already did the science. Charlemagne already had the files. Charlemagne

551
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: already knew who Loom was. That's why we was able

552
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: to have the high level of conversation. Shout out to

553
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: Andrew Schultz and Charlemagne on the brilliant idiots. Sometimes we

554
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: get to talk like that, y'all just late to the party.

555
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: I remember walking in the party sometimes with billion dollar

556
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: niggas and they want to let me in and treat

557
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: me like gold, and I had to tell them, hey,

558
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: this guy with me is someone that I look to

559
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: for respect, because y'all don't know Superman when you look

560
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: at him, and not to diminish me and big him up.

561
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: I need the culture to know that sometimes you can't

562
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: distinguish everything just by looking at it. You gotta look

563
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: into it. And so Elliott Wilson has been in this

564
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: game for a long time. I think he does his

565
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: due diligence for me. He follows me. We've been in

566
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: communication as someone that I look to and says he

567
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: did a few things in the game that I look

568
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: to him say, Yo, he's a legend. He's a legend.

569
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: You can't take that from him. But it's almost like

570
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: Elliot Wilson is he's still balling with only the fundamentals.

571
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: It's like he don't understand that Ivers sing them about

572
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: the crossover to the game, niggas taking it behind the back,

573
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: magic Johnsondone, a few no look pass Jordan Dunton got

574
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: from the free throw niggas is passing it off their elbows.

575
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: Now it's like he don't. It's like he basically still

576
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: balling with only the fundamentals. Because on the other hand,

577
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: I won't even say that that was necessarily hate because

578
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: also what I don't want them to do is shame

579
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: him into not posting what he feels, or shaming him

580
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: into not feeling whatever he feels. Like, if you feel

581
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: a way about something, he should be able to say it.

582
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: He got twenty years in the game. For me, it's

583
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: good to see that also, even him, he had to

584
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: go through that. Like a lot of these rap people

585
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: with these interviews, it's just a weird space. It's very weird, bro,

586
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: and I fuck with Cosinek. I'm aware of all of

587
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: these guys, aiden Ross, all of these guys. I'm aware

588
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: of these guys. But I do think there's a conversation

589
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: to be had about how much conversion, how much translation,

590
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: what promotion? What is this doing. I think there's a

591
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: real conversation that needs to be had about that. Outside

592
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: of that, I think you go where you want to

593
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: go to have a conversation. I think that's very important

594
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: for these people to be comfortable and be able to

595
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 1: actually speak to your people.

596
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 6: You dig.

597
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: This is what I need y'all to really be understanding. Man,

598
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: you need to come speak to your people. Some people

599
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: you can only get a certain kind of conversation by

600
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: sitting with these kind of people. And your people need

601
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: to hit answers to certain questions. If they go unanswered,

602
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: the narrative unfortunately continues to live. And let me put

603
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: some framework down also as to where NICKI went and

604
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: done this interview at for people that's listening and not watching.

605
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: For you to get what cosanet, you gotta pull up

606
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: to his home, You gotta come to his room. Nicki

607
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: Minaj is one of the biggest artists in the world.

608
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: I think we see some of media criticizing the fact

609
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: that and these are supposed to be consonant homeboys. A

610
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: lot of these other streaming dudes are saying that they

611
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: kissing up to Casinett and they gotta come sit in

612
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: his room. All that high and mighty shit. They need

613
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: to cut that out because they gotta come to do

614
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: room just to get it done. And they all go

615
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: do it. You know, I don't want to throw shade

616
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: on Kyle. I want him to win. I want to

617
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: wrap niggas to turn the people up. Though, what do

618
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: you mean by that loom? There's so much integration that

619
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: needs to happen. Y'all be going in these rooms and

620
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: lead you homeboys out the room. When y'all be y'all

621
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: post to say, yo, turn my guy up. Y'all do

622
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: something me and you're gonna do something, but may y'all

623
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: need to y'all do. Let's take a listen to Nicki

624
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: Minaj and what she said the Iliot Willson.

625
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 6: If there's anyone out there who would like a who

626
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 6: would like an interview with Nicki Minaj rather than posting,

627
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 6: rather than hating simply ask, Oh, then we've been on

628
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 6: chill mode. We've been on chill time because we've been

629
00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 6: on this rollercoaster with this amazing album. The album is

630
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 6: so good that people are questioning the state of the

631
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: game in so many ways. So you know, so anyone

632
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 6: that wants to do an interview with me rather than

633
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 6: eating okay, Oh, why y'all hate and when the new

634
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 6: people come in, trool hi eddiot Wilson, wasn't that y'all

635
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 6: y'all shpail hating on the new people? And then y'all

636
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 6: do ee and then every day then they do everything

637
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 6: in their bower to make sure everyone got the nigga

638
00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 6: minological sign. Even oh we brought we gonna have we

639
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 6: gonna have to have some talks now, you see, we

640
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 6: gonna have to have some talks. Okay, at Hyonika said

641
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 6: never liked him anyway, The last Crown interview made him.

642
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 6: All the idiot does is sit there and laughs and

643
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 6: and laughs and laughs, cause what what what what are

644
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Speaker 6: we talking about?

645
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. You see, all these years.

646
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Speaker 6: Of the last couple of years, even even though I've

647
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Speaker 6: given him an interview, I believe I I uh I

648
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 6: th I believe two interviews, but I definitely have given

649
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 6: him one. In the past couple of years with the

650
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 6: whole agenda that's been happening, I Elliott has been one

651
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 6: of those people who are used PI to be the

652
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 6: mouthpiece for others, and past couple of years, he's you know,

653
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 6: said some nasty things about me and I didn't respawn.

654
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 6: I didn't you know, I kept them moving.

655
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: But then.

656
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 6: I drop an album and you're jealous that you didn't

657
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 6: interview me. Why And by the way, you're a grown

658
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 6: freaking man. If you wanted an interview, you could have asked.

659
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 6: I would have given you one. But that's not what you.

660
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: Want, right, No, very interesting moving and slow talking. Now,

661
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: I think she gets in the character when his album time,

662
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: so I think she just in She's in that vibe,

663
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: she's in that mode. But the real conversation here is

664
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:56,760
Speaker 1: does new media have a place and is constantly considered media?

665
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: Is that even the interview? And I do want to

666
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: address the fact that the reason why I didn't think

667
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: Elliott's was warranted is because she's did a lot of

668
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: other interviews. From what I've seen, I think she did Joe,

669
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 1: she did funny Marco and so Casanetti isn't necessarily interview

670
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: even though they've got some questions off. He didn't call

671
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: it an interview, he said journalism. So I don't know

672
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: if he thinks it falls under that category or not,

673
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: but I think she did sit down with a couple

674
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: of people. I do find it interesting that she said

675
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: she'll return Joe Budden the Nicki Minaj interview back to

676
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: Joe Budden, and he's been kind of critical of Drake

677
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: doing that and say that he won't do an interview

678
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: with Drake or he doesn't want it because it won't

679
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: be authentic because they need to look over it. Interesting

680
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: ted bit of information just for partters out there. I

681
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: think that all these guys were being damned until they

682
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: break they back. You just got to be the right

683
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: person calling them and until then, and they'll criticize you

684
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: forbidding to try to get yours done, and so make

685
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: sure you pay attention to the actual market and what's happening.

686
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: I think we'll get further in that way, because if

687
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: we listen to what these guys tell us, we all

688
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: hit it for shit's creek. These dudes ain't doing number

689
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: lying talking In this segment, we dive into the recent

690
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: eruption in the hip hop community podcasting world, stemming from

691
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: the Joe Butden podcast. The controversy was ignited when Melissa Ford,

692
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: co host of the podcast and form of video Vixen,

693
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: commented on the story shared by Cameron about a wild

694
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: brothel visit in the nineties. Ford raised the question of

695
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: whether there could be underage girls at the location, a

696
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: suggestion that sparked immediate backlash from her co hosts, including

697
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: Joe Budden, who criticized her for making such a claim.

698
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: The situation escalated when Cameron responded fiercely, not only denying

699
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: the suggestions, but also retaliating with personal attacks against Ford.

700
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: He threatened legal action and deportation, making provocative comments on

701
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: a sports talk show It Is What It Is, and

702
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: on Instagram Live. Cameron response was marked by a mixture

703
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: of the now aggression and a threat of a defamation

704
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: lawsuit as he challenged the authenticity of ford apology. As

705
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Speaker 1: we explore this controversy, we'll discuss the implications of some

706
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: public disputes in the hip hop world, the role of

707
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: podcasting as a new frontier in the media complex dynamics

708
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: of personal narratives intersecting with public discourse. Let's take a

709
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: look at some of the videos. Basically, Cameron and Mace

710
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: was just talking about and encounter they had with a

711
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: young lady. They were under age. Melissa Ford. This was

712
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: her commentary on the Joe Budden podcast. Pay attention. That

713
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: is not exactly the way that I remember that story happening.

714
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Speaker 2: I don't think that's right what you do. I don't

715
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: think that's right. Well, who's doing what's he doing? That's right?

716
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: Like them niggas clearly went to a who somebody about it,

717
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Speaker 2: and and.

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Speaker 1: I get that.

719
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: I get that, of course, is there is there is

720
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Speaker 3: there a distinct possibility that there may have been underage

721
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Speaker 3: girls in that world.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy what you're doing.

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Speaker 2: Disgusting what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, okay, And that plan just that.

725
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Speaker 1: That's not a plane as you take notice too in

726
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: that video. Joe Budden and the rest of the guys

727
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: who on the couches proceeded to tell her that that

728
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: was a bad idea for her to say that. And

729
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Speaker 1: I want to be clear with my commentary today and

730
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Speaker 1: hopefully it doesn't come off or doesn't draw any suspicion

731
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: as to where I stand as it pertains to being

732
00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: falsely accused for any crime, in particular sexual assault crime

733
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: they call a SA now online. So I want to

734
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: be clitted. We don't stand by or stand for falsely

735
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: accusing anyone of things that they didn't do. With that

736
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: being said, I do want to kind of take note

737
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 1: and pay attention to the atmosphere of being a podcaster.

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Speaker 1: Number one. I want to lend some grace to Melissa Ford,

739
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: and I want to let her know any event that

740
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: she feels shaken at any moment, any event she feels

741
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: like she needs a spot to go, I can point

742
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: her in the direction in what we'll match that salary.

743
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: Round of applause for us for matching that salary. This

744
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: is just me putting a blanket out there, you know.

745
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: I just want to put a blanket out there for

746
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: her to feel comfortable, maybe to if in her spirit

747
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: she feels like I need to leave, but I can't.

748
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: I feel trapped, I feel stuck. Put that to the

749
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: side because I have no personal issue with Joe, so

750
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna dig a lot into that, but it's

751
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: a lot there. It can be spoke to what I

752
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: will continue to speak about because it's all content, right,

753
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. What I will speak to is what

754
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: it's like to be a podcast especially a woman in

755
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: a position where you podcasting with several men in that environment. Today,

756
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna take note of a few things. I have

757
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: zero notes. We're just gonna freestyle and we're learning this together.

758
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: We're working through this together. But I want to make

759
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: sure that some of our leaders in the culture aren't

760
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: doing an old fashioned baiting switch. Sometimes when I see

761
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: Melissa Ford sit on that couch, the treatment that I

762
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: see that come towards Melissa Ford all in the name

763
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: of entertainment, and they're operating on the thin line, it's

764
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: then heist stay on. But I don't think that it

765
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: was pitched this way to Melissa. For let's deal with

766
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: the camera on and Melissa things one hundred percent wrong

767
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: that she said that. I don't agree with her saying that.

768
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: Why did she say? It becomes the new question as

769
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: you take notice when Cameron fired back at them, he

770
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: made sure to fire at Joe and he fired at

771
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: another guy over there that he feels like, YO, I

772
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: gave you so many looks you beg to wear my clothes, like, come,

773
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: I know you nigga, you love my style. Even if

774
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: he misinterpreted that, the way he handled that told me

775
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: so much about that relationship. It's like, you know, you

776
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: a little nigga. Stop it. Your co sign only work

777
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: from some niggas I co sign. Say you got a

778
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: co sign from some niggas that I co signed, and

779
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: they co signed the nigga that co signed the niggas

780
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: you got your coat? Man, sit down here. Everybody come

781
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: from a long list of real ones though, right, so

782
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate all the real ones. That's northeast, west, south,

783
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: that's everywhere in the world. But Cameron made sure that

784
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: he wrapped all them dudes around in that that he

785
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: know like, uh uh, they let this go out, someone's

786
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: up with this. I didn't see that reaction literally my

787
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: first time watching that reaction right on camera. What I

788
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: do know, though, is that they're pushing back and that

789
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: looks good, and that means that they're standing on the

790
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: right side of history as it pertains to her interaction

791
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: with this topic. But what kind of atmosphere do they

792
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: have for Melissa Ford over there? Now? Do they tell

793
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: us she don't talk enough Do they tell us she

794
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: need to talk more? Do they tell her that she

795
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: gives boring stories? And so is she trying to spice

796
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: it up? Does she see Flip do a certain thing

797
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: and Joe do a certain Does she think this is

798
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: what you do? Is this spicing it up? Y'all? Ain't

799
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: directing me, y'all es, it's debunking me. Ain't nobody directing me.

800
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: They debunking me. So I'm trying to find a way

801
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: to They saying I need to add more value. They

802
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: bringing other girls up here, They telling me, I don't

803
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: know now, am I contract time coming up? Do I

804
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: need to? And so, in my opinion, as Melissa Ford

805
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: tries to search for a way to be accepted by

806
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: these guys in this work environment, right because what I

807
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: see her doing is I'm just speaking about clearly on camera,

808
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: being effective on the mic. Joe Budden, Melissa Ford, this

809
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: is how the butt of the jokes go on this show.

810
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: Joe Budden is first, which he makes all the money,

811
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: so I guess that goes with it. He's built the

812
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: platform around that. It kind of has moved away from

813
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: it now because the lines no longer are blurred. I'm

814
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: paying everybody here. At first there was blurred lines a

815
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: little bit, so he was kind of the butt of

816
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: the jokes and he was rolling with that. Still sometimes

817
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: he's the butt of the jokes. But I think the

818
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: environment changes. But how does Melissa Ford fit in that?

819
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: Does anybody take that into consideration? Listen, these comments were wrong.

820
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: We're no longer talking about the comments in which she

821
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: accused Cameron in Mace of being involved in anything illegal.

822
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: I'm only speaking about the environment that they have created

823
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: for this woman to even exemplify whatever she got, for

824
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: her to even give it a fair shape. What you

825
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: will find is in this space a lot of times

826
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: when a woman go to talking, they'll get cut off

827
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: really quick, like, Yo, you're taking too long. Yo, you're

828
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: not funny. Yo. That wasn't it. Yo, that never was Yo.

829
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: You can't do it.

830
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: Yo.

831
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: It was this Yo, you're getting Yo, it's the butt

832
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: of the joke. This is podcasting for black men, right

833
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: downgrading each other on a co host perspective. That's why

834
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: I tend to not understand it because I don't have

835
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: a co host. So when I see it, I'm like, yo, damn,

836
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: what is that? Is they playing a game? If you

837
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: pay attention. When I interview Adam twenty two a couple

838
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: of years ago, and I went out there and I say, yo, man,

839
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: is this it's like a joke? Is this a game

840
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: with your academics? Like I'll say certain things to each other,

841
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: and it's like, is this real? Because you can be

842
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: trying to captivate your audience and you might detonate a bond,

843
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 1: you might activate some shit. All they're trying to captivate

844
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: my audience. All they're trying to get my audience from me, nigga,

845
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: you might run into a real issue trying to You

846
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: might offend me trying to steal my audience. And not

847
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: because you're stealing my audience, but what you're saying by

848
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: way of trying to steal my audience might put band

849
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: let's stay like it gets slippery. But some of y'all

850
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: think it's our internet. But I think back when I

851
00:47:39,160 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: asked myself.

852
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: You ain't got enough sun, no whole lot of holes.

853
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm a whole heller. I know kept ology over here

854
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: on this side. To us, it's just pointing out the obvious.

855
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: I don't know how other people are saying it. I

856
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: don't know how they viewing it. When I say, yo,

857
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: some ain't something is off about how she's being treated.

858
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: Maybe behind the scenes there's something that they don't appreciate.

859
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: Maybe she's not communicating something. Something's happening. Though something's happening.

860
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: Let's take a trip down memory lane this next clip.

861
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Melissa for his first time on the

862
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: Joe Budden Podcast. Pay attention to the environment. Pay attention

863
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: to the nature of the conversation. The floor is yours.

864
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: It's a totally different atmosphere now again, not speaking to why,

865
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: but I know she's struggling with trying to find what

866
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: a fit in this thing of ours. Because if I

867
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: say nothing that gets us no where, and if I

868
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: say something that turns into the conversation, why would you

869
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: think it's that? Man? Is that? Seriously? What you think?

870
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: Is that? How you girls think? Is that? What you

871
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: It's a lot of that now, respectfully, could be pardoned,

872
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: but let's pay attention to it. Here's the first episode. First,

873
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: you see a couple of comments on the screen. Watching

874
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: this over again nine months later, it was great and

875
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 1: I feel like, now I know why she's a part

876
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: of the show. We don't see this side as much.

877
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: I feel like she's toned down her personality to be

878
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: a part of the show, so she doesn't come off

879
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: a certain way to the guys. They gave her a

880
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: lot of room to speak on here, and they showed

881
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 1: interest in her what she was saying. Pay attention though,

882
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: this did not want to be a statistic.

883
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: Is the current dating?

884
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 6: No, not at all, not at all.

885
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: I am dead from the neck down.

886
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: You better laugh, You better turn round, motherfucker. I'm working

887
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: for you to turn rab.

888
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 3: You want to do you want to put a sound

889
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: effect on that, I don't know what that would be.

890
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: She gets sound and fixing all. See see the love

891
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: that is being shown. She gets sound and fixing all.

892
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: All she gotta do is say a little something. Now,

893
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: she say that same sentence. They clown out the building.

894
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: They call a corny, old, washed up She say the

895
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: same thing. Right Here'll pay attention. But this is how

896
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: the again, I want podcasters to pay attention to the

897
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: development of characters in the podcast in space, because you

898
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: got to be in control of the development of your character,

899
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: or people will place you in the spot and you

900
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: will become the butt of the show. Pay attention.

901
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 3: Listen, listen, if anybody's listen, if anybody, if anybody wants

902
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 3: that wants to bring me back to life, hopping my

903
00:50:54,480 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 3: d ms that I might not see it are a

904
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 3: fucking show. However, I am, I am. I'm feeling very

905
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: dead from the neck down.

906
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: Hold on, let's pay attention to the demeanor of Melissa

907
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: Ford at this moment. Let's just let's just look at demeanor.

908
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: How up of these she is, how just it just

909
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: seems like she's just ready to rock and roll. It

910
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: just seems like she's having a great time. Like now

911
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: when she's sitting on over there, it doesn't give this.

912
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: It seems like when she first got there, the invitation

913
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: was pure, it was a beautiful situation. Just I mean,

914
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: just look, everybody's happy. I'm feeling very dead from the neck.

915
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: Down, you know, like that's what but that's by a

916
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: joy stop it stop.

917
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 7: Really well, let's just shut the.

918
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: Answer your question.

919
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: Yes, we're telling you.

920
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: Yes, listen, let me tell you something.

921
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's let's pull. Let's pull this concept. Now

922
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: you see how let her keep going.

923
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 3: The sexual desire apart.

924
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 1: Let's favorite.

925
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 3: Okay, so what makes your dick hard? You guys, let's

926
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 3: go around the room away like.

927
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 5: Like that.

928
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 3: Two things that make your dick card instantaneous hard on.

929
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: Again. I want you to pay attention just to the atmosphere.

930
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: This isn't about the conversation about the atmosphere. She just

931
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: said a few seconds ago that yo, is it really

932
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: by choice? They're saying, there's no way you could be

933
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: single by force? Right, This is what they're saying. Every

934
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: conversation now is like you can't really get nobody, or

935
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: you get a lane or right and again. Some of

936
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: it is podcasting. But this atmosphere leads to, in my opinion,

937
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: bad decision making on her behalf. And she's trying to

938
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: search and score points on a crowded court. Now you know,

939
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm a talker, so her conversation make month of card.

940
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: Why are you looking at I snigga, oh yeah, pretty

941
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: feet make one. I like feet, I like legs. Snigger

942
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 1: such a oh yeah, pretty feet make one. I like feet,

943
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: I like legs. Snigger such a oh yeah, pretty feet

944
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 1: make one. I like feet. I like legs. Snigger such

945
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: a oh yeah, pretty feet make one. I like feet.

946
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: I like legs.

947
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: Snigger such a she got a dead ass feet out today?

948
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: No, no, onions, no trunions.

949
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: No, no nothing.

950
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: You see that the direction of the conversation and respect.

951
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 1: They're giving her the lead way, they're giving her right.

952
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 1: And some people will say that may have played against

953
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: them in this instance, but I disagree. I think the

954
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: atmosphere has led to her trying to fit in this

955
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: crazy world they've created over there. They've allowed Queen's Flip

956
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: to come and change the whole fabric of the show.

957
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: Now the show is turned into something, and I'm like, Yo,

958
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: this ain't what I thought they were gonna do. Even

959
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: though it's working, it's definitely doing something. I don't know

960
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: to what extent, but I know it's working. I know

961
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: it's moving. I know people are listening watching right. I

962
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: see the growth of it. I'm not naive to that.

963
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: What I do know, though, is number one, let's just

964
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: put it all on the floor. When you've allowed the

965
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: show to be changed in that way, I don't know

966
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: if you can change it back. It's like the first

967
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: time WWF allowed Rick Flaird to cut itself and the

968
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: people was able to see blood. All right, Now we

969
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 1: got to have blood in here, y'all. It's just how

970
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: it go. It's hard to go back once you introduce

971
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: something to an audience, and so it pigeonholes the bread

972
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: unless I ain't gonna say unless how, because then that'll

973
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: be me giving the sauce up when these niggas ain't

974
00:55:58,920 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: left nothing out.

975
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 5: I want to talk to our resident foot expert, ish,

976
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 5: can we get some type of analysis on Melissa Ford's foot?

977
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: That ship is all right?

978
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 2: I ain't.

979
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 7: I don't even know about. I don't even know about.

980
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 7: Just think of smelling like that. Look'st flirting woman?

981
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: What do you think, yo? I'm not they don't.

982
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 5: I am imagining right that what it took to take

983
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 5: Melissa Ford on the day back in these days and

984
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 5: what it takes to take Melissa Ford on the day

985
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 5: of today would naturally be two different things, right Like this,

986
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 5: Melissa Ford here seems a lot.

987
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 2: Tougher the crack.

988
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: Like really, no, it seems the opposite to me.

989
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 3: You're you're spot on, I am.

990
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 7: I am.

991
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 3: I'm very simple, very very simple. I always kind of

992
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 3: have been.

993
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: All right, that's enough of that, So again, we're just

994
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: looking at how they interact with each other in real time.

995
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: When she first got there. I think the environment has

996
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: switched on a Lissa for I think the atmosphere has

997
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: been altered. I think these guys have now started to

998
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,959
Speaker 1: treat her in a different way, and she's just trying

999
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: to earn her buckets. What they doing, switch in and

1000
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 1: now it's over here. It's all kind of this shit,

1001
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: is what's the man. I'm trying to get my points

1002
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: up and be relevant in some conversations and try to

1003
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 1: be the woman's side or at least what I think

1004
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: the woman's side. Again wrong, but they encourage her to

1005
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: speak up more, even when she don't know about topics.

1006
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: They want her to provide the woman's side of things.

1007
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: That's what you hire a phoebie and co host for.

1008
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: It's I was talking about the actual yeah talking about

1009
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 2: was nineteen eighty two.

1010
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: We was in the w Ohiehouse.