1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: My graduates from my school being forced back drop drop, Mike, 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: drop back drop. 3 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: All right, guys, welcome back, another exciting, groundbreaking episode for 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: eyl So. 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 3: The Billionaire Edition. 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, for sure, the Billionaire Boys Club. So 7 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: you know, we've had the privilege of talking to a 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: lot of great people and first and foremost, relationships are 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: extremely important. 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We put a post on social 33 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 2: media and it was like tag Mark Cuban if you 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: want to see him on email was two thousand people 35 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: we tagged them and Al hit me right in the 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 2: DM like, hey, I just spoke to his guy, hit 37 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,279 Speaker 2: him right now, So I did, and to his credit, 38 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: the whole team was just absolutely phenomenal. So you know, 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: kudos kudos to everybody, Kudos to On and kudos to 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 2: Jacob for being in. Kudos to Mark as well, just 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: being extremely efficient and no hassle, no issues, and this 42 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: is quick, got it got it done, got it done. 43 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 2: So serial entrepreneur, NBA team owner, investor, TV Star Media, Mogul, 44 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: family man, philanthropists, and legend coach Icon. So you know, 45 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: we've talked to a lot of great people. 46 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 4: Right, because it all goes down hill from there. 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked to a lot of great people. Man 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: shout out to Shag d Wade, Dame Dash. But this 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: is the first billionaire station that so looking forward to it. 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: So first and foremost, mister Cuban, uh, thank thank you 51 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: for all right, all right now, Mark, Mark, thank you 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: for joining us. Appreciate it, pleasure. So so let's just 53 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: jump right into it. So, you know, our podcast is 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 2: a little different because we kind of dig into the backstories. 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: So the tweet that I put up it was when 56 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: you say, and something to the effect of I had 57 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: zero dollars with my bank account when I was twenty 58 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: seven years old, and that went viral because you know, 59 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: I did the calculations based off of Wikipedia. It was 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: like it was like ten years later you became a millionaire, 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: and fifteen years later you became a billionaire. So you know, 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: that's that's inspiring to a lot of people because it's like, 63 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 2: you know, they see a billionaire and it's like to 64 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: know a billionaire at one point in time in his 65 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: late twenties had zero dollars in his bank accounts. So 66 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: can we can we start where it all begins? So 67 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: I know you moved to Dallas when you were in 68 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: eighteen eighty two and you was a bartender and then 69 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: you worked at a software company where you got fired. 70 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: So can you can you start there? 71 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 4: Sure? So I went to Indiana University and a bunch 72 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 4: of my buddies had gone down to Dallas, and they 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: were like, so you know from Indiana, there's like the 74 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: weather's good, you know, the girls are hot, and the 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 4: economy's great. I'm like, wait, wait, back up second one. 76 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: And so I had a theat X one nine and 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 4: nineteen seventy seven Fiot X one nine with a hole 78 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: on the floorboard, and so I wanted to go someplace warm, 79 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 4: and I thought about La but my car wouldn't make it. 80 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: Thought about Miami. My car wouldn't make it. But I 81 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: could make the eight hours from Bloomington, Indiana, down to 82 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 4: Dallas because I could calculate the amount of oil I 83 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 4: was going to need every sixty miles and the amount 84 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 4: of gas I was going to use. So I got 85 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 4: down there and I moved in with my buddy and 86 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: his five four roommates, so I made number six. So 87 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 4: there were six to bucks living in a three bedroom apartment. 88 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 4: Obviously I had to get a job, and so I 89 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 4: got a job working as a bar I say it 90 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 4: was a bartender, but I was more bar back, and 91 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: every now and then I would pour a drink, right, 92 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 4: you know how it goes. And so did that at night, 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: and then during the day I went looking for a 94 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: job and got a job working for a computer store 95 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 4: called Your Business Software. It was one of the first 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 4: early computer stores. I remember being doing my intervie you 97 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 4: because I had never taken computers in college. Nothing. I 98 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: took one class and I cheated at them. And so 99 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: I remember the guy asking me. He goes, well, what 100 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: do you know about computers? And I'm like, I know 101 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 4: how to read the manuals, right, I know how to 102 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 4: sit in front of a computer and do basic stuff. 103 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 4: And so he's like, well, all right, if you're willing 104 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 4: to learn all this software programs by reading the manuals, 105 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 4: I'll give you a shot. And so I got that job, 106 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 4: paid me enough to pay my share of the rent. 107 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: It still had my shitty ass car. And I'll tell 108 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: you another story about that in a minute. You talk 109 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 4: about being broke. And so I got that job, and 110 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: so life is just going on, right, just trying to, 111 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 4: you know, keep up with everything and pay my bills. 112 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 4: Then my car dies and so now I got no car. 113 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: I mean it had to hole on the floorboard, you 114 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: know where I could see the road while I was driving, 115 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: so I knew it was just a matter of time. 116 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 4: And I didn't have any money to get a new car. 117 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 4: So probably two weeks later and I'm getting rides to 118 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 4: work in there everything. Two weeks later, we're driving along 119 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 4: with my buddts and we're driving along and there's a 120 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: car on the side of the road. I'm like, stop. 121 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: He's like what He's like, somebody had to abandon that car. 122 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 4: It was like a nineteen eighty Transam or nineteen seventy 123 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 4: something Transam. I'm like, someone had to abandon that car, 124 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 4: and I need a car, and so no, Lie, I 125 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: had my buddy pull over. I open up the car door. 126 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 4: It's open, right, and there's papers. And anybody who's ever 127 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 4: missed a car payment right or had a car repossessed 128 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: knows exactly what I'm talking about. Right, you got all 129 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 4: the papers and everything, and you're trying to figure out 130 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: how to pay the bills, and then when you just 131 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 4: can't pay it, and they're going to come get it. 132 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: You just leave it right, You're just done with it 133 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 4: and have it, you know. And so I knew what 134 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 4: was going on, and so I opened the car, pulled 135 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 4: out and saw the papers on the seat. Called the 136 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: bank right, got got back to our apartment. This is 137 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 4: before cell phones. Got back to the apartment, called the 138 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: bank and said, I found this car on the side 139 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 4: of the road. I know you guys are going to 140 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: try to repossess it, and you do me a favor. 141 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 4: I'll pick up the payments on it because I had 142 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 4: my software job at that point. I'll pick up the 143 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: payments on it because I lousey credit, awful credit. Like 144 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 4: I had gone to radio Shack to try to buy 145 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 4: a computer to help teach myself to learn, and I 146 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: tried to do it on credit and they turned me down. 147 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 4: Radio Shack turned me down, and so I called the bank. 148 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 4: They gave me the okay to take over the payments. 149 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: And that's when I started getting my life back on 150 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: track and started building my credit up. But even then, 151 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 4: I was like twenty four at the time and working 152 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 4: at that job, and things started to go good for me. 153 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 4: And then about nine months into that job. I had 154 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 4: an opportunity to close the deal, and this deal would 155 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: have got me a fifteen hundred dollars commission, which meant 156 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 4: I could have moved out of we called it the 157 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 4: Hill Hotel where I lived. It was in an apartment 158 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: complex called the Village, and a little part of me 159 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: called the Hill. And so I can move out of 160 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 4: the Hill Hotel, which was a shithold if I got 161 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 4: this fifteen hundred dollars commission. And so I go to 162 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 4: my boss, who and I normally have to sweep the floor, 163 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 4: open up the store and all that, and I'm like, look, 164 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 4: I want to close this deal and he's like, no, 165 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 4: you got to be there to open up the store. 166 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: Made the executive decision to go pick up the check, 167 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: thinking when I bring him a fifteen thousand dollars check, 168 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: fifteen hundred of which is going to be mine, life 169 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 4: is good. Right, fired me on the spot. I realized 170 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: I was a shitty employee. At that point in time, 171 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 4: it wasn't the first time I've been fired or quit 172 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: a job, right, And so started my own business called 173 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 4: micro Solutions, and that you know, I was taking a 174 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: step back financially because I had no income coming in, 175 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: begged somebody who was one of my prospects at the 176 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 4: software store to load me five hundred bucks to be 177 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 4: my first customer. So they gave me five hundred bucks 178 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,839 Speaker 4: so I can buy the software that they needed. And 179 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: I took that and I just kept on growing from there, 180 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: and so that three years later, you know, when I 181 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 4: went to the ATM, I had my business going, but 182 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 4: everything that I had was going into the business, right, 183 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 4: And I thought, you know, it wasn't a normal paycheck, right, 184 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: It wasn't a regular paycheck for me, and so you 185 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: think sometimes you know, in your head, I've got a 186 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 4: hundred bucks or two hundred bucks and you go there 187 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: thinking you're going to take out some cash and it's 188 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 4: all gone. And so that was that was my moment, 189 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 4: and it was just like, Okay, this has got to 190 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 4: be you know, it wasn't a low point because I 191 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: had my company, but this was like the point where 192 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,359 Speaker 4: you know, I got to pay attention to the details 193 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 4: and really start building this thing, and then it just 194 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 4: blew up from there. I really put the effort in 195 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 4: and it went big. 196 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: So you didn't know anything about computers to actually working 197 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: in a store with computers reading the manuals to getting 198 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: a software company, Like, how is this still manuals? Are 199 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 3: you starting to surround yourself around people who have some 200 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 3: insight in the field. 201 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: No, I got to learn, right because you know, if 202 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 4: I'm going to be an investor now right, It's not 203 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 4: like I'm worrying about my next sale right to pay 204 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: to get my fifteen hundred dollars commission. But you know, 205 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: but if I'm going to be the guy that, you know, 206 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: whether it's on Shark Tank or or doing deals, if 207 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: I'm going to be a tech guy, you got to 208 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 4: learn the tech I mean literally, I've got all these 209 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 4: books around here. I mean just about you know, learning 210 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:07,359 Speaker 4: new technology, learning about AI, learning about you know, personalized medicine, 211 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 4: all these things. So yeah, I still will read the manual, 212 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: you know, only now it's like a download instead of 213 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: a book. But yeah, because you got to. Because if 214 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 4: I'm going to be out there saying I'm a tech 215 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: guy and I don't know shit about tech man, I 216 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 4: don't want to be that guy. I'll pass that fake 217 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: it till you make it. I want to be that 218 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 4: guy who really knows the stuff. 219 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about selling the company to 220 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: h and R block. But before that, you brung up 221 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: a good point. How often do you do you educate 222 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: yourself a day? 223 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: Like? 224 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: Is it like an hour? 225 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: Like? 226 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 4: Every day? Every minute? Everything I do is about learning more, 227 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: because that's the only way I can kick your ass. 228 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: You know. It's not I'm not going to out athletic 229 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: you right, It's not about my basketball IQ. It's about 230 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: my business i Q right, and technology and business and 231 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 4: everything's always changing. If you know, five years ago, if 232 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 4: someone would ask me about artificial intelligence, I want no 233 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 4: ship right yet AI is the most important part of 234 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 4: technology and really business going forward. So if I'm going 235 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: to be an effective investor, an effective mentor, and an 236 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: effective you know, operator of businesses, you know, even with 237 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: the maths, I got to understand AI because you know, 238 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: like with the Mavericks, when you know, when you talk 239 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 4: about analytics, it's changed so dramatically even over the last 240 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 4: five years, going from you know, different types of things 241 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 4: per and you know, advanced RPM and all these different 242 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 4: metrics for basketball to how do you implement artificial intelligence 243 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 4: and pose estimation and computer vision and how do you 244 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 4: understand all that stuff to make the right decisions for 245 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 4: the maps and so if I want to be in 246 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: a position to make those decisions and not just ask 247 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: somebody else to do it, I got to learn it. 248 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 4: And so I put in hours, I do tutorials, I 249 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 4: take little online classes, and it doesn't make me an expert. 250 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 4: It's not like I'm going to say, you know, I 251 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: could get a job if I needed to running AI 252 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 4: or any tech for a big company. I couldn't. But 253 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 4: I understand all the concepts and understand the issues and 254 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: how to apply them to business. So if you're going 255 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 4: to be good at anything, you got to stay ahead 256 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 4: of the game. And business is the ultimate sport, you know. 257 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 4: I used to say it to Dirk and I always 258 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 4: say it to Luca. You know, it's like, dude, you know, 259 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 4: you play forty eight minutes. You know, a forty eight 260 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 4: minute game. You practice a couple hours, you go home 261 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: and you relax and you play. You know, you play 262 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 4: Call of Duty. You know, business is twenty four x seven. 263 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: I'm going every day because there's some sixteen year old 264 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 4: kid out there trying to kick my ass in one 265 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 4: of my companies and it ain't going to happen, right, 266 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: And so I'm that competitive and I'm that, you know, 267 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 4: I work that hard at learning to try to stay 268 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: ahead of the game. 269 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's amazing to hear you say you're 270 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: taking online classes, and it's like, you know, for somebody 271 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: of your stature to invest to still be investing your education, 272 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: not to wrestle your lawrence. I think that that's something 273 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: that's a teachable moment for all of us, but especially 274 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: people that's aspiring to get to the next level. Is 275 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 2: like if Mark Cuban is investing in his education, Like everybody. 276 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: Competitive sport, the ultimate competitive sport. You don't know who 277 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: your competition is. That's always changing. They're coming out of nowhere. 278 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 4: There's some kid who thinks he's gonna bust your ass, right, 279 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 4: you know, and walk in and try to take them, 280 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: you know, just try to do something that beats your 281 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 4: company or one of my investment companies. And I can't 282 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 4: let that happen. You know, somebody's got to be lebroad, 283 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 4: you know, and I may not get there, but I'm 284 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: gonna bust my ass try it. 285 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. When you sold the company, 286 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: the first company that you sold I believe it was 287 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: to H and R Block and it was thirty million, 288 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 2: you netted two million, So how is how did how 289 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 2: was that process and actually letting go and selling your 290 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 2: first company and kind of springboarding that until we're going 291 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: to talk about the next company after that, But what 292 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: was the process in that? 293 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: So we had thirty million in sales, we actually sold 294 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: the company for five million. I brought on a partner 295 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: who got to and then I gave a million to 296 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 4: the employees, and so that netted me two million. And 297 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 4: so I took that two million, and I got a 298 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: broker at Goldman Sachs, and I'm like, I want to 299 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 4: invest like an old man. I'm thirty years old. Because 300 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: to me, the process was, you know, I always I 301 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 4: took seven years. I worked frusting my ass at that company, 302 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: seven years with no vacation, right my saying. I didn't 303 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: go out and had fun. I did a lot of it, 304 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 4: but everybody else was taken off to go to Mexico 305 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 4: for a weekend or whatever. I had to stay back 306 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 4: and work, and so, you know, I put in all 307 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: this time, and my goal was always to retire, right. 308 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 4: My goal wasn't to start this company and run it 309 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 4: till I was seventy five years old, and grow it 310 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: to be just a big, enormous company. My goal was 311 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: retired by the time of I was thirty five and 312 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 4: when I got the opportunity to sell the company, and 313 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 4: what happened was I just got a letter from some 314 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: dude who said he was interested in buying the company. 315 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: He represented H and R block and I was like, 316 00:14:56,280 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: come on, I've been waiting for you. Yeah, right, you know, 317 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 4: I'm not messing around, and so, you know, and the 318 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 4: offera was good enough at that point in time where 319 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: I could say, you know what, if I'm willing to 320 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: live like a student, I could retire. And so we 321 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 4: went through the whole process. I went to Kansas City 322 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 4: and met with the H and R Block Board told 323 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: them when I was you know what I thought we 324 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 4: would do. As it turns out, they had other plans. 325 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 4: They just wanted to buy the company and have somebody 326 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 4: else running. And I was like, fine, you take it. 327 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 4: I'm good with that. You know, pay me a little 328 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: salary to answer questions when you need me. And I 329 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: bought a lifetime pass on American Airlines for one hundred 330 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: and twenty five thousand dollars, which meant I could take 331 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 4: me and anybody else anywhere I wanted to go in 332 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: the world at a moment's notice. Man, I'm at a 333 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: club in La. Let's go to Vegas. Come on, let's go. 334 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 4: I'm in Vegas. You know you want to go to. 335 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: How long was that? How long was that? Did that 336 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: pass expire or is that? 337 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: I aspired? After I bought my planes, I gave it 338 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 4: to my dad. 339 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: And went my uh A slice stunt slice stuff. 340 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 2: I actually wrote that down. 341 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: When you talk about your best investments, to first one 342 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 3: you were explained is investing yourself and how learning is 343 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: a skill. And your next one was the airline pass. 344 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, man, if I. 345 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: Can get that, I don't know if they still sell them, 346 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 4: but I doubt it. I'm in La, right and I 347 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 4: met a female friend about fifteen minutes earlier, and I'm like, 348 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 4: let's go to bake it. Oh, let's go to Vegas. 349 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: And he's like, okay, let's go. So you know, all 350 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,479 Speaker 4: you got to do is call and make a reservation. 351 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: And I made the reservation and when I show up, 352 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: they have to make seats available in first class for 353 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 4: me and my guests. And so I walked in there 354 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: and they're booting out magic John's I'm like, you don't 355 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: know me from madam. 356 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: And I'm just hey, Yeah, that's great. I heard Rick 357 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: Will say that he got a wingstop because he wanted 358 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: to show like the woman he was caught and he 359 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: could get wings at any point. This kind of Trump's it. 360 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: I'm a boss, right, and the best part of the 361 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: remixing name drops me. So that's even better. 362 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: You got it? Hey, I put his album up because 363 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: he drops Teflon down shout out to Rose. So so 364 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 2: we got to talk about one of the legend one 365 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 2: of the most legendary situations of all time and business. 366 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: So audio net you start that in nineteen ninety five, 367 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: which becomes broadcast dot Com in nineteen ninety eight, which 368 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 2: was first live stream uh service that showed Victoria's Secret 369 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: fashion show Ye, the first one resting peace period, FIRS streaming, 370 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 2: first streaming gay. You revolutionized the whole streaming process. So 371 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: you sell that in the middle of the dot com 372 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: boom to Yahoo for five point seven billion dollars. The 373 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 2: reason why this is so crazy for anybody that's not 374 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: really familiar with it is like the dot com boom 375 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 2: was when a lot of companies was getting brought at 376 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: very high valuations. But it was like perfect timing because 377 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: from my end is Dan correct me if I'm wrong 378 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: the company it was. You got Yahoo stock which was 379 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: at like an all time high peak after it split 380 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 2: of five hundred and then they peaked. It was eight 381 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighteen dollars in nineteen ninety nine. Two 382 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 2: years later that stock with at eight dollars ninety three 383 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 2: percent drop in two thousand, you brought the Mavericks for 384 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty five million. So what happened with that? 385 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: Did you? Did you sell the stock? 386 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 4: History? 387 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 2: Answer short? The stock like how did you have a 388 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: crystal ball? Are you a psychic? 389 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: Well? First of all, like after I sold micro Solutions 390 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 4: and that two million dollars, I started off investing real conservative. 391 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: But my broker used to come to me all the 392 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 4: time and say, ask me questions about these technology companies, 393 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 4: and I would know more about them than the people 394 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 4: who are buying selling the stocks that the brokerages, and 395 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 4: so you know, I would give them answers and realize 396 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 4: after I gain answers, the stocks would go up and down. 397 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 4: If I said good stuff, the stocks will go over 398 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: if I said I'm like and He's like, dude, you 399 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: got to start trading these stocks because you know more 400 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 4: than our analysts. And so I did, and I was 401 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 4: crushing it, right. And so for the next four or 402 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: five years, I was making eighty ninety one hundred percent 403 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 4: a year of my money in the stock market. My 404 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 4: bank just kept on going straight up. And so by 405 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 4: the time we sold Broadcast dot Com to Yahoo, I'd 406 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 4: already seen these you know, bubbles come and go, the 407 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: PC bubble, right, the PC software bubble, you know, and 408 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 4: all these different companies go up and down. I'm like, 409 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 4: you know, I got to be next to my name. 410 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 4: I want to keep that being next to my name. 411 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 4: I don't need to be greedy. And so I went 412 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 4: to my broker and I said, I want to do 413 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 4: something called hedging, and I wanted to hedge it right, 414 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 4: which meant that I bought puts against the stock, which 415 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: means if it goes down, I make money, and I 416 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 4: sold calls against it, which means if it could if 417 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 4: it goes up, I made some money, but I don't 418 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 4: make as much. Right. It forces those people who I 419 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: sold the calls to to buy it from me at 420 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 4: that price, and so the stock ended up going down, 421 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: and I may ended up mak I made. I kept 422 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: all my net worth, you know, from the stock they 423 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 4: got because I got it converted to cash because of 424 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 4: the puts. But I actually actually made more from it 425 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 4: than I got originally because of the value of the 426 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 4: puts when they came when it when they came to 427 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: their exploration date, and it was called one of the 428 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 4: top ten trades on Wall Street of all time when 429 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 4: I paid, because I ended up making more money instead 430 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: of losing all that money. And it was crazy because 431 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 4: I bought the MAVs in January of two thousand, so 432 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 4: twenty one years ago, yes, two days ago, right and so, 433 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: and the hedge hadn't really fully taken place yet because 434 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 4: it wasn't the hedge didn't really expire until two thousand 435 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 4: and one and two thousand and two. So I remember 436 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 4: sitting in sitting in the team bus with Don Nelson 437 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: and Del Harris, who was our one of our coaches 438 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 4: in our yeah. Yeah, And so I'm sitting there with 439 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 4: him like you paid two hundred eighty five million dollars. 440 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 4: That's crazy. That's like the most ever paid for any 441 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 4: sports team ever. And I'm like, dude, look see this 442 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: Yahoo stock that I got for audio neet for broadcast 443 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: dot com. It just went up seventy dollars today. That 444 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 4: paid for all the Mavericks, right, I mean, I was 445 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 4: living large, man, it was. It was. It was a 446 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: good time. 447 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: That paid for the private jet, the mansion, everything, so 448 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 3: that you were doing option treating. 449 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, basically yeah, but only on my stock. Right. So 450 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 4: I owned the Yahoo stock, sold the calls, we brought 451 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 4: in revenue, used up money from the calls to five puts, 452 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 4: which protected my downside. And when the stock crater, like 453 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 4: you said, down to eight dollars, I got all that 454 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 4: extra premium. I got all that extra money because I 455 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: had bought the puts, and so yeah, so it turned 456 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 4: out okay for me. 457 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: Boys and girls. That's that's a lesson in hedging. I 458 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: hope you're paying attention. 459 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 4: And you know, like right now, if you've got all 460 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 4: these stocks right now, you know I got a hedge 461 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: on my stocks right now too, because you just don't know. 462 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 4: You know, pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. Right, You 463 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 4: don't need to get one hundred percent of every nickel 464 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: if you give back a little bit and spend a 465 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 4: little bit on the hedge. Even if you're going to 466 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 4: lose that mount, you sleep good at night. And if 467 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 4: the market craters, whether it's tomorrow or next year, I 468 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 4: may have lost a little bit, but I protected the 469 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: next day, you know, and the money I've got in 470 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 4: the stock market. So you know, you got to you 471 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 4: got to always remember you can't predict where the stock 472 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 4: market's going, even though like right now, bit coin's going 473 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 4: straight up, the stock market's going straight up. Everybody thinks 474 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 4: they're a genius, right, everybody's a genius in a bull market, 475 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 4: until you're not. And so even though you know, I 476 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: might think one way or expect one thing to happen, 477 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 4: I'm always hatching. 478 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: N Yeah. So I mean when when you buy the 479 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: maps at this point, I mean, you're just a fanatic 480 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 3: of basketball. You didn't really even have any ownership like tenure, 481 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 3: Like you had no idea. So I heard and I 482 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 3: heard playing the stories that the players were actually coaching 483 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: on what it is to be an owner, right like 484 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 3: Michael Finley and Nash he told us about that. 485 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: I had no idea. There was only two things out. 486 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 4: You know, I still, like, you know, in normal times, 487 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 4: I'd still go play pick up, like I want the 488 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 4: vaccine not only to feel safe, but so I can 489 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: go play pick up again, right, go back to you 490 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: know the gym where I play. And you know, so 491 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 4: to me, I'm a ball was lifetime guy type guy 492 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: and I always have been. And like with Finn and 493 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 4: Nash and Dirk and my guy Eric Strickland, Reg Butner. 494 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: You know, these guys took me under their wing. Damon 495 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: Jones even you know, just all giving me feedback on 496 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 4: you know, what it's like to be a ballplayer, what 497 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 4: you got to deal with as an NBA player and 498 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: things they need. 499 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: You know. 500 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 4: I remember, like the first day I bought the team, 501 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 4: we had a guy, Gary Trent, his son now Gary 502 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 4: Trent Junior, playing right and so g Trent, I remember, 503 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 4: I'm like, what do you guys need? What can I 504 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 4: do to make it easier for you to win games? 505 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 4: And he goes Cuban, he goes this, this team is 506 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 4: so cheap. Right now, we fly in to Oakland, California 507 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 4: to play the Warriors, and we stay at a holiday 508 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: in with new note roop service. And so you got 509 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 4: a whole team of your whole Mavericks team walking down 510 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 4: the street in Oakland California, sometimes three in the morning 511 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 4: looking for us seven to eleven to give food. You 512 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 4: think that's safe. I'm like, okay, you money, I got you. 513 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 4: And so we upgraded it to stay at Rich Carlton's. 514 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: And then once we started doing it, everybody, all the 515 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 4: teams started doing it. We started bringing Like when I 516 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 4: first got there, we spent more money on computer repair 517 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 4: and computer training than we did on player development. I'm like, 518 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: this is crazy. We're spending millions of dollars. I mean 519 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 4: we had Juwan Howard with a. 520 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: Nineteen erness What's up? 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Hiring Indeed 566 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 5: is all you need. 567 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 4: Ten million dollar contract, which would be a good contract today, right. 568 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 4: And so I brought in all these former maths, Mark 569 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 4: you know, Greg Dry and Mark Bryan and all these guys, 570 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 4: and they became more more than Wilie. They became our 571 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 4: player development coaches and the whole NBA crushed me because 572 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: I brought in these guys at like fifteen of them. 573 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 4: Everybody basically had their own player development coach, and I 574 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 4: paid the guys like twenty five brand a year because 575 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 4: they all just wanted to coaches twenty five brand a 576 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 4: year because they just want to get back in the game, right, 577 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 4: Kiki vandaway, And so they all have jobs now, which 578 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 4: all put them in the NBA. A lot of them 579 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: are still NBA player development guys and so, but all 580 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 4: the other NBA teams just torched me. What are you doing? 581 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: I mean people were writing articles. You know, how dumb 582 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: is this guy? He's got fifteen players and fifteen coaches, right, 583 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: because there were no development coaches. You know, you had 584 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 4: three coaches on the bench. You had your lead you 585 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 4: had your head coach, your lead assistant, and then maybe 586 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 4: one other assistant, maybe two, right, and one of them 587 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 4: will helped, you know, guys rebound and you you know, 588 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: coaches were supposed to work to develop guys. I'm like, 589 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: that's crazy. You know, coaching is a hard enough job 590 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 4: as it is. Playing is hard. You want to get 591 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 4: people who work to develop your players. And we started 592 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 4: doing it, and now all those player development staffs where 593 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 4: teams have three, four or five ten guys working that 594 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 4: had all started back from when I'm started, and now 595 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: like we got sham sham guy. We even have you know, 596 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 4: all handling coaches right in New York. Legend you see 597 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 4: the sham come out on the. 598 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, you guys, you definitely changed the game. I 599 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 3: remember when there was first reports of TVs in the 600 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 3: locker room and everybody's locker had a DVD player, and 601 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: you were the first with the private planes. It was 602 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: just like Yo, the Dallas Mavericks became a place where 603 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: you wanted to be, Like we grew up like Jason 604 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: Kidd and Jim Jackson. It was like, all right, Jamal 605 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: Mashburg playing right. 606 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 4: So I bought the plane, but I'm like, let's talk 607 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 4: with people, right, So people, we can't do a press 608 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 4: release or anything. But when people would ask about the plane, 609 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: I told all the guys, you got to say that 610 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 4: there's a weight room on the plane. There's no weight 611 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 4: room out of play. Who the hell's gonna put a 612 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 4: weight room out of play? But they all told everybody 613 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 4: that there was a weight room on the plane. So 614 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 4: all these people, all these still to this day think 615 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 4: we have a room on the MAVs team plan. 616 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: It was just legend legendary situation. And I believe the 617 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: only NBA owning history to make an appearance at Live 618 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: on Sunday. 619 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 4: With Noah many times, probably the only order we stand correct. 620 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: With the championship trophy. I remember when they when they 621 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: beat Miami, they went to Live. That was that was legendary. 622 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 4: No wait, the best part of that story was, you know, 623 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: we just won and they came up they go, look, 624 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 4: we got this one hundred and forty thousand dollars bottle 625 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: of champagne. Dirk looks at me and he goes, yes, 626 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 4: you better get it. I'm like, I handed my my 627 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 4: my Black card and I'd just gotten a new Black 628 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 4: because you know they every six twelve months whatever, they 629 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: send you a new card, right, so for for a 630 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 4: theft protection, and so I've just gotten it, and you 631 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 4: know you're supposed to sign it and call it in 632 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 4: to activate it, right. I hadn't done that yet, and 633 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 4: I was so out of it, right, I didn't even 634 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 4: say twice. And so I give him my card and 635 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 4: fifteen minutes Dirk's like, Yo, where's it at Jets like, 636 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: where's it at? You know all Tyson Chandler, where is 637 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: it at? They want to see this big bottle of champagne. 638 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: And I get the tap on the shoulder, right, mister Cuban, 639 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 4: can you come back in the back before. It's been 640 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 4: a long time since I've got one of those cut 641 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 4: off all that, and so I'll go in the back. 642 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 4: They're like, your credit card got the client. I'm like, 643 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: some black AMX. It's not supposed to get the client. 644 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 4: And so they call I had to call up American Express, 645 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 4: no lie, and I get the first line person. I'm sorry, sir. 646 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, can you put your manager on? And he's like, 647 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 4: you know, how can we be sure this is mister Cuban. 648 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: I'm like, did you watch TV tonight? You know you 649 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 4: would happen at the game. So finally I got it 650 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 4: approved and we got our bottle champaigne. 651 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, some technical question about 652 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: the league. So the CBA, I feel like the NBA 653 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: in the NFL is completely different because from my understanding 654 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: that the the NBA the players have fifty one percent 655 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: of the revenue, where the NFL the players have forty 656 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 2: eight percent. Of the revenue, and it seemed like the 657 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: NBA is way more player friendly and the players get 658 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: more money and it's a much stronger relationship between the 659 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: owners guarantee contract the owners and the players, where the 660 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: NFL it's no, it's not really guaranteed contracts. The owners 661 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 2: and the players don't seem to have a good relationship. 662 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts on the CBA? And also, 663 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: I know you you have plans on being an NFL 664 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: owner as well, So what is your what are your 665 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: what are your thoughts on the difference between the league 666 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: and in the NBA, how it's structured with the CBA 667 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 2: and the relationship between the owners. 668 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 4: And the players. No plan to be an NFL owner. 669 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 2: Okay, two. 670 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 4: Too, you know, And you know people talk a lot 671 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 4: about guaranteed contracts in the NBA versus the NFL. The 672 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 4: difference is the NFL gets a lot more bonus money 673 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 4: up front, right, so you get paid a big check 674 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: up front, so you don't your contract may not be guaranteed, 675 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 4: but you're guaranteed money. Isn't all that different for the 676 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 4: skill players right now? You know. And then the other 677 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: big difference is they I think they have four years. 678 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 4: Every player has got four years guarant four year contracts. 679 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 4: You know, in the NFL, where it's very it's variable 680 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 4: in the NBA. But in any event, the biggest difference is, 681 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 4: you know, in the NFL, NFL players talk about the 682 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 4: league promoting the shield, right that it's all about you 683 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 4: know what's on the you know the NFL logo, and 684 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 4: you know they promote the NFL Whereas in the NBA, 685 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 4: it's all about the players. But you know, the talent tribe. 686 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 4: We're a talent driven league. Our players have huge social 687 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 4: media presence. You know, we're we're big, you know in 688 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 4: social media, not just Beliegue, but more importantly the players, 689 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 4: you know, And so that's the biggest difference. You know, 690 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 4: if you looked at you know, I grew up in Pittsburgh, 691 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 4: I'm a big Steelers fan or the Cowboys and a 692 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 4: big Cowboys fan. You're gonna know Dak Dak Prescott, and 693 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 4: you might know Zeke Elliott, but you're not going to 694 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: know the other fifty one guys on the team if 695 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 4: they walk in the room, right. And I might know 696 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 4: Ben Roethlisberger if I see him, but I'm not you know, 697 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 4: James Conner but maybe not. You know, the other fifty 698 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 4: one guys either basketball, you're playing two k right, you 699 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 4: know one through fifteen who most of the guys are, 700 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: maybe even the two way players, and that leads them 701 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 4: to having big social media presence. And when you see 702 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 4: a big highlight in the NBA or the NFL or 703 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 4: any other sport, you're not going to see the face, right, 704 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 4: there's no expression. They're in the helmets, you know, they 705 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 4: can't take their helmets off, and that's intentional, right, that 706 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 4: kind of keeps the visibility of the players down. And 707 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 4: on the NBA, you see a highlight from Luca, You 708 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 4: see Luca smiling, you see it ripping his jersey, you know, 709 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 4: you see Lebron doing the same thing. You see kd right, 710 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 4: you see the expression, the emotion. And then these guys 711 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 4: are taking those highlights and the walkings even when they 712 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 4: come into their arena and showing what they're wearing or 713 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 4: what their kicks are. You know, you're seeing those on 714 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 4: their social media and that's being picked up. You know 715 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 4: on overtime you know, ball is life, you know dunk demics. 716 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 4: You're seeing all these things over and over again, and 717 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 4: that leads to their brands being bigger than the league, 718 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 4: you know, and that gives a lot of leverage to 719 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 4: the players if the NFL players don't. 720 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: Speak speaking of the NBA, and obviously in the Corona situation. 721 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 3: Right now, we know that there's been a huge loss 722 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: one point five million billion dollars been lost in revenue, 723 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 3: and the likelihood of people coming back to the game, 724 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 3: you know, is up in the air for this season. 725 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 3: I'm just wondering, you know, what are the plans to 726 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 3: kind of offset and maybe gain some more revenue, being 727 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 3: being that a large part of what you take in 728 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 3: is not part of your income right now for the 729 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 3: team between. 730 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 4: Last year and this year, it ain't pretty Yeah, my good. 731 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 4: You know, I'm going to lose a lot of money 732 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 4: and there's not a lot we can do right now. 733 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 4: I mean, right now, the first thing is safety. Safety, safety, safety, 734 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 4: because if our guys aren't safe, we can't play. You know, 735 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 4: I would put them in a position. It's like Texas. 736 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 4: In Texas, we're allowed to have fans at Mavskins. I 737 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 4: can have up to five thousand people, but I'm not 738 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 4: going to do it. I was just talking to Dwight 739 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 4: Powell and MAXI Cleveland today and Luca and when I 740 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 4: was down to practice and you know, they were asking 741 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 4: about it, and I'm like, look, it's not so much, 742 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 4: and I don't think I can keep you know, the 743 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 4: fans safe. But what happens is, out of five thousand people, 744 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 4: somebody's going to happen, right, somebody's going to happen. And 745 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 4: you know, when you let people in the players and staff, 746 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 4: you're gonna let in their friends and family, and so 747 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 4: all it takes is one person who's a girlfriend, a parent, 748 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 4: you know, a niece and nephew, whatever it is, talking 749 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 4: to the wrong person, you know, in the concourse, and 750 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, that then makes them sick, and 751 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 4: that makes the player sick. Or with our protocols, you 752 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 4: don't even have to be sick if one of those 753 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 4: people in that chain right there turns out to be sick, 754 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 4: even if it doesn't make the player sick, we got 755 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 4: to shut you down because of the protocols and so 756 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 4: all that stuff together, I've decided not to have fans. 757 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 4: I'm walking away. Probably We've got thirty four home games 758 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 4: but still to go for this season, and you know 759 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 4: how much money is that going to be twenty thirty 760 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 4: million dollars. I'd rather have a healthy squad and give 761 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 4: us a better chances to win. 762 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: So Shark Tank Shark. 763 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 4: Tank Friday nights on ABC. 764 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 2: We're back, sure, okay, okay, yeah, So what are some 765 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 2: all right? We got to talk about Ring? Is that? 766 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 2: Is that the biggest regret that you have? 767 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 4: No? No, So Ring did a good job, Jamie, you know, 768 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 4: Jamie came on and I've got a rule when it 769 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 4: comes to companies, and Ring violated this rule. And so 770 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 4: it doesn't mean, you know, even though this is my role, 771 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 4: it doesn't mean there's other companies who can't do well. 772 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 4: So if a company is going to have to raise 773 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 4: hundreds of millions of dollars in order to do tens 774 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 4: of millions of dollars in revenue, I'm not going to invest. Now, 775 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 4: that's not you know, in Silicon Valley they like that 776 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 4: kind of stuff that they like to buy growth. Right, 777 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 4: So you can raise a lot of money, and if 778 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 4: you show a growth curve that's really good like Ring did, 779 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 4: then they you know, there's a good chance you can 780 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 4: get acquired. And as it turns out, Ring got acquired 781 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 4: by Amazon. But what ends up happening to the early 782 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 4: investors is because you have to raise so much money, 783 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 4: you keep on getting diluted down and down and down 784 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 4: and down. And so if I would have made that 785 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 4: Shark Tank investment of seven hundred thousand dollars, I think 786 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 4: it was to get ten percent of the company by 787 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 4: the time it got sold for a billion dollars, I 788 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 4: would have been lucky if I owned one percent, because 789 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 4: and probably not even that. Now one percent of a 790 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 4: billion is still ten million. That's not bad, but it 791 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 4: probably would have been less because what happens is because 792 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 4: those companies are losing so much money. When the newer 793 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 4: investors come on and they give you one hundred million dollars, 794 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 4: they're not saying Mark, you know, just keep what you have. 795 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 4: They're saying, I want better terms than you even gave 796 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 4: your first investors. And so you know, when someone's given 797 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 4: you one hundred million or two hundred million dollars, the 798 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 4: terms get really onerous and they don't aren't really friendly 799 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 4: to the initial investors unless you keep on investing a 800 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 4: lot of money at the you know, in the hundreds 801 00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,959 Speaker 4: of Like if I would have put up a hundred 802 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,399 Speaker 4: million dollars at that point in time, then I could 803 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 4: have kept it. It might have been good, but that's 804 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 4: just not what I'm going to do with a shark 805 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 4: tank company. So it's not a bad thing for him. 806 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 4: It's a great thing. But at the same time, you know, 807 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 4: I don't feel like I missed anything. 808 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 3: Has ever been somebody else come on the show and 809 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 3: you kind of sit there and like, why didn't I 810 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 3: think of that? Or has there been a company that 811 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: another shark took and you said, Man, I should have 812 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 3: invested in that one? 813 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 4: One one I wish I invested in just because it 814 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 4: was fun. That's Spikeball. The guy came on and said 815 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 4: that looks fun, but he wanted to start all these 816 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 4: big spike ball leagues, and I figured, I'm just going 817 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 4: to have to go out there and just hype spike ball, right, 818 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 4: which at the time I didn't think it would be 819 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 4: as much fun as it turned out to be. But 820 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 4: the one that another shark did that I wish I 821 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 4: had done is it's called comfy comfy clothes. I think 822 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 4: it's called where there's just these huge, oversized not even 823 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 4: I don't even know what you call it, Like these 824 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 4: big oversized comfy comfy things you wear right, you know whatever. 825 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 4: And so anyways, they're like forty nine bucks apiece and 826 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 4: they've sold millions, millions. 827 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,399 Speaker 2: Barbara snuggle Is that the snuggle thing? 828 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, like a snugly type nugget stuggy. Yeah, like 829 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 4: a snugget type thing where it's just big and comfy. 830 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 4: And I didn't even sing twice about it. Barbara by 831 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 4: twenty five percent of the company for like fifty or 832 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 4: seventy five grand, she has made and she said this 833 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 4: in an episode, she had made thirty seven million dollars 834 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 4: from it. Wow, that's one I would, you know, if 835 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 4: I can rewatch, I would take that one. It's crazy, 836 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 4: but I love Barbara, I'm thrilled for her. But thirty 837 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 4: seven million dollars from less than one hundred grand investment, 838 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 4: that's great. What do you also mean that the dudes 839 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 4: that came on with that company? If she made thirty 840 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 4: seven million for one fourth of the company, multiply that 841 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 4: time three and that's what they made. 842 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 2: What do you what do you look for if somebody's 843 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,840 Speaker 2: trying to pitch you on Shark Tank? Like, what do 844 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 2: you what are your key things that you look to say? Okay, 845 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 2: I mean this is something that I'm interested. 846 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 4: In, and you know, and you brought the point, you know, 847 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 4: is it something that makes me think? Why did I 848 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 4: think of that? That's always the first thing, because I 849 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 4: think I'm good at this stuff. And if there's something 850 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 4: that somebody comes on and I'm like wow, you know, 851 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 4: so that's first. If it's not one of those, then 852 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 4: it's like, Okay, is this somebody who's going to bust 853 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 4: their ass and be a grind you know, hustling all 854 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 4: my life type person, right and grinding all my life 855 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 4: just going because that that's what it takes. Because these 856 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 4: aren't companies that are at the top of the food 857 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 4: chain killing it right. They need us for a reason 858 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 4: and that's why they're there. And so if you're not 859 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 4: willing to be a learner and grinding all the time, 860 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,839 Speaker 4: then it's not going to work. And what happens is 861 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 4: having done the show so long, you know, you you 862 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 4: realize that there are gonna be people who think that 863 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 4: if I get in to deal with the shark, I'm 864 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 4: going to do all the work right or whoever the 865 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 4: shark is. It's got to be the exact opposite. And then, 866 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 4: you know, grinding learning selling because There's never been a 867 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 4: company in the history of companies that was ever successful 868 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 4: without selling. And what happens is a lot of entrepreneurs think, well, 869 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 4: I'll get somebody else to do the selling. And you 870 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,839 Speaker 4: can't do that if you don't love your product enough 871 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 4: to always want to make it available to people and 872 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 4: let people know why it's great. It's not a good product. 873 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 4: That's what I look for. Like, I'll give you one example. 874 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 4: I had Noel this dude, and now you guys don't 875 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 4: have naturals. You guys are missing upstairs. 876 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,239 Speaker 2: I got, I got a lot. 877 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:36,959 Speaker 4: I'm done. 878 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,439 Speaker 2: I'm done. 879 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 4: I'm done. But you've got to come up called twisted 880 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 4: the twisted upcome you know what the naturally you got 881 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 4: to use the sponges and everything, right, I had to 882 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 4: learn this stuff. It's not something. So he made this 883 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 4: little baby tennis racket, right, So it's just like put 884 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 4: it in there and on one side because one side's 885 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 4: point e so you can twist it up and everything. 886 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 4: On the other side. It's like a little tennis racket 887 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 4: so you can, you know, fluff it up and get 888 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 4: it where you wanted to look at. And Noel sells 889 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 4: them online now crushing it, crushing it. I mean he 890 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 4: sold millions upon millions of dollars. It's one of my 891 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 4: better investments. And now Noel is out there investing in 892 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 4: other startup companies. And what you know, the lesson from 893 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 4: Noel dirty It twisted up is that you can start 894 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 4: with an idea that meets the need in your community, 895 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 4: right you don't It doesn't have to be some big 896 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 4: idea that you're selling to people you don't know. You 897 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 4: don't have to go out there and raise money. All 898 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 4: he did was take the money from his job, make 899 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 4: some prototypes and go to some barbershops that he knew 900 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 4: and say, look, can you try this? And once they 901 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 4: started asking for more and more and more and wanting 902 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 4: to buy them and sell them to their customers, then 903 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 4: he took that and just kept on building it and 904 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,720 Speaker 4: building it, and now he's making you know, million dollars 905 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 4: plus a year. I'm doing really well from it too, 906 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 4: And so you know, it doesn't matter where you started, 907 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 4: where you come from. If you've got an idea that 908 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 4: can help people around you, you don't need to go 909 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 4: out and raise money. You just got to go out 910 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:07,600 Speaker 4: and do it. 911 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 3: Sounds like a baby shark in the making. 912 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,479 Speaker 4: Oh you says that baby line. Now he's real deal. 913 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 2: They say the average millionaire has seven streams of income. 914 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 2: But shout out to Ian. We have a stock show 915 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 2: called Market Money. It's like the hottest stock show on 916 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 2: You should if you're if you're invested, you could come 917 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 2: on that because you're you're a serious stock investor. But 918 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 2: our co host Ian Dunlap, he said something, he said, actually, 919 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,520 Speaker 2: somebody told him that actually twenty four streams. So what 920 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,320 Speaker 2: do you think about that? Because you had that so 921 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 2: much about the seven streams of income, but then it's 922 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 2: like twenty four streams. That's a lot more than seven. 923 00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 2: So do you think that that's too far to diversify? 924 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 2: If you're focused on wealth, you should focus on a 925 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 2: few things or like what's your thoughts on that? 926 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 4: Focus on what you're good at, what you know. So 927 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 4: always remember this in any investment. You know, if you 928 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 4: go to buy a stock, there's somebody selling it to you, right, 929 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,279 Speaker 4: they didn't just manufacture it, and they're not selling it 930 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 4: because well, you know what, I like, Mark, I'm going 931 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 4: to sell in my stock. I know the price is 932 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 4: going up, but I'm gonna sell it to him because 933 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 4: he's a good guy. Right, it doesn't work like that. 934 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 4: They're selling because they think it's going down or it's 935 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 4: not going anywhere. They need the money, and so you 936 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,799 Speaker 4: always have to ask yourself why is somebody on the 937 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 4: other side of the deal doing what they're doing, and 938 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 4: just being good at one thing is really hard. And 939 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,919 Speaker 4: so what I always tell people, if you can get 940 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,720 Speaker 4: really really good at something. If you want to trade stocks, 941 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 4: learn everything about the stocks you're trading, right, don't just guess. 942 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 4: If you want to get into cryptocurrency, learn everything you can. 943 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 4: Once you have some success, then you can start peeling 944 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 4: off some of that money that you've made and put 945 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 4: it into other things and diversify your portfolio. But each 946 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 4: thing that you add, don't do it unless you know 947 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 4: what you're doing. And don't assume that somebody else, because 948 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 4: they have money or because they call themselves in a 949 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 4: financial advisor, knows what they're doing. Always check your whole card. 950 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 4: Always make sure you know what you're doing, because you know, 951 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 4: go back to the inner that bubble. There are a 952 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 4: whole lot of people just paying any price, and they 953 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 4: thought I was crazy. I went on CMBC and told 954 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 4: people I had hedge and every time y'allhoo stock one up, 955 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 4: they said, don't you feel really bad that you left 956 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 4: us money on the table, And I'm like, no, I'm good. 957 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 4: I sleep really good at that, and so don't get greedy. Right, 958 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 4: So when you talk about seven or twenty four different 959 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 4: forms of income, really what it comes down to is 960 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,280 Speaker 4: what are you good at? And stick to those things 961 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 4: and if there's you know, most people can't be good 962 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,400 Speaker 4: at more than one thing. It's hard, right, And I 963 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 4: can have multiple streams of income because I've got enough 964 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 4: cash where I can take different chances. If you're a millionaire, 965 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 4: you know, and you've got a million dollars in cash, 966 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 4: that's not going to last you your whole life. So 967 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 4: you've got to treat it with a lot of respect 968 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 4: and make sure you know exactly what you're doing. It's 969 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,279 Speaker 4: always a thrill when you hit that platform, right when 970 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 4: you say a million dollars, man, I've made it. How 971 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,239 Speaker 4: good does that feel? And you get all excited, you know, 972 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 4: and everything, But you also have to be realistic and 973 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 4: remember that, you know, being a millionaire doesn't mean you 974 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,239 Speaker 4: can go out and blow that cash. It means you've 975 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 4: got to protect it. And why would you invest in 976 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 4: something just to get seven different you know, streams of 977 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,560 Speaker 4: income if you're not sure, and if you divide a 978 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 4: million dollars up seven ways, you're going to lose some 979 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 4: of them. Right, it's going to be hard to have, 980 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 4: you know, one hundred and fifty thousand dollars all making 981 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,320 Speaker 4: you money and doing well. Some of it's going to 982 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,240 Speaker 4: crap out, and so you've got to be really careful. 983 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 4: You know, what I tell people is have at least 984 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 4: six months of expense money sitting in the bank, if 985 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 4: not more, because like we learned with the pandemic, she 986 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 4: can go bad really fast. You know, twelve years ago 987 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 4: we had the Great Recession. Now we have, you know, 988 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 4: the pandemic. And so if you have six months of 989 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 4: expenses in cash just sitting in the bank, even though 990 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 4: you're pissed, it's not earning anything being able to write 991 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,440 Speaker 4: that check to cover your rent if you lose your 992 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 4: job or so god forbid, something worse happens. Right, you 993 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 4: want to have that cushion. It's not twelve months. To me, 994 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 4: that's not necessarily another form of income. But being able 995 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 4: to sleep good at night, that's another form of income, 996 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 4: being stressed about all that shit all the time because 997 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 4: you're into things you're not quite sure about. I mean, 998 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 4: anybody who's made a little money has always looked at 999 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 4: investments and there's no worse feeling than you're calling your guy, 1000 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 4: calling your woman, whatever it is, the lady that's working 1001 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 4: with you, and saying, how are we doing, And always 1002 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 4: at the beginning it's, oh, it's great, exactly like we said, 1003 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 4: Oh it's great. Then there's that one day and one 1004 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 4: of those investments where they don't call you back, Oh 1005 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 4: it's just busy. Sorry, Then they don't call you back again. 1006 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 4: Then they don't call you back again. Right, that's because 1007 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 4: you did something you didn't fully understand. And so not 1008 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 4: that every investment can't go wrong, even with the best intentions, 1009 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 4: but you're going to limit your risk. You want to 1010 00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 4: limit your risk until you get to the point where 1011 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 4: you can say, fuck it. If father's fifty grand, I'm fine, 1012 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 4: father's one hundred grand, I'm fine. When you get to 1013 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 4: that point, then you can start making investments that get 1014 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,000 Speaker 4: you to those seven different screams of income. You know what, 1015 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 4: invite be back on. If you want to come on, 1016 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 4: I'll come on the stock show and we can pick 1017 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 4: it up from here. You guys are amazing. 1018 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 2: Man. 1019 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 4: I enjoyed that. 1020 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 2: I appreciate. I appreciate that you're not in the market Monday. 1021 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 2: We would love to have you on market Mondays. But 1022 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 2: first and foremost, thank you. Thank you was gracious with 1023 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 2: your time, and once again, thank you to the whole team. 1024 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:31,439 Speaker 2: Thank you to Al Harrington and how I said, Hi, Man, Yeah, 1025 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 2: for sure, for sure? What would you what would you 1026 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 2: like to tell the people? Any last words that you 1027 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 2: would like to leave the people with. 1028 00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,760 Speaker 4: You know, life's about the grind and life's about learning. 1029 00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 4: You know, if it were easy, everybody would be doing it. 1030 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 4: But I think a lot of people get frustrated because 1031 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 4: it's hard to find something that you love to do 1032 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 4: and that you're good at. You know, like I told 1033 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 4: you guys the stories about getting into computers. I didn't 1034 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 4: know I was going to be good at computers. I tried. 1035 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 4: I tried a lot of different things, a lot of 1036 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,720 Speaker 4: jobs that didn't work out, until I got to something 1037 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 4: that did work out when I was twenty four, you know, 1038 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 4: twenty five. And then once I got there and realized 1039 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 4: I could be good at it, I just ramped it up, 1040 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,880 Speaker 4: and I just kept on levering up. And that's the 1041 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 4: hard part. When you're young, if you're you know, in 1042 00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 4: college or in school or out of school for that matter, 1043 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 4: try different things. You don't have to have all those 1044 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 4: answers when you're young, Try all the different things, because 1045 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 4: you know what, if you're broke, now's the time to 1046 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 4: try it, right, because what's the worst that you're at. 1047 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 4: It's gonna happen, right, You're gonna stay broke. But if 1048 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 4: you keep on trying different things, when you find that 1049 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 4: one great thing, then amazing things happen. And when you 1050 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 4: find something you're good at, go for it. Go for it. 1051 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 4: Don't take any prisoners, man, Just do everything you can 1052 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 4: to be great at it. And that's when you really 1053 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 4: make money. That's that's how the money to make pleasure. 1054 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 2: And who's the best wrapper alive? 1055 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,399 Speaker 4: The best rapper alive? It's not true, Pad, that's for sure. 1056 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,359 Speaker 4: I'm a little wing guy. I know that, does you know? 1057 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1058 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:14,799 Speaker 4: The uproars like still my song? Yeah? So we who else? 1059 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 2: I like? 1060 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 4: I mean, like I'm still DMX. Like my all time 1061 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,280 Speaker 4: favorite song is d m X fame. I saw DMX 1062 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 4: one time. Right, We're both at the club and I'm 1063 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,919 Speaker 4: talking to him and he's like, dude, I'm my fan 1064 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 4: fan girling, right, dude, I love saying best song ever. 1065 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 4: He's like, don't hit me with that ship and that ship. 1066 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,439 Speaker 2: Shout out to the dog. But Mark, thank you, thank 1067 00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 2: you again, brother, and I appreciate it. Good luck on 1068 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 2: the season. You guys killing it. Luca, amazing, amazing talent. 1069 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 3: You gotta you got, you got, you got the next one. 1070 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got coming back next week, so it's gonna 1071 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 4: get even better. 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