1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noone Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Texas, Ohio State will kick off the big big game 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: to start the college football season. Phil Steele and his 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: magazine had been more hirt than anybody twenty plus years 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: at predicting this stuff. Listen, we know Texas pill is 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: going to be good. We know Clem's in Ohio State. 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: I have Penn State, Texas and the Natty. The question though, 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: is arch Manning does not have a lot of play 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: and they're replacing most of their old line. Now I 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: would argue it's Texas Sharks, a great recruiter. They'll be 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: fine in the old line. But do you look at 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Texas this is what you study. Do you look at them? 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: Do you see a whole in that football operation? 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 4: I think the key for Texas is going to be 22 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: the development of the offensive line. Losing four starters like 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 4: they do this year. Also, look at that schedule. I 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 4: mean playing Ohio State on the road, Florida on the road, 25 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 4: Georgia on the road, and Oklahoma in Texas. Those are 26 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 4: four pretty tough road games. They may be like Ohio 27 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: State last year where they lose a game or two 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: during the season, but once they get to the playoffs, 29 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: they are going to be tough. I love their defense, 30 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: so Colin the best defense in the country led by 31 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 4: Anthony Hill, a linebacker. 32 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: So the team I think can win it third straight 33 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: Big Ten team is Penn State. So I watched Drew 34 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: Aller Phill a couple of years ago. I thought he 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: was inaccurate. I thought he was not refined, and I 36 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: watched him last year. I'm like, boy, he's made a 37 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: big leap. Penn State's O line is not a problem. 38 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: You like Penn State when I if you've not seen 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: Penn State play, we know aler, we know James Franklin 40 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 1: can recruit. What will they lean on the Nitney Lions 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: this year to win close games because their schedule tells 42 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: you they should be in a few of those. 43 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, They're going to lean on the offensive line, which 44 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 4: I rate number one in the country, and the running 45 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: back corps, which I rate number one in the country. 46 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 4: They've also upgraded a wide receiver, bringing in three big transfers. Defensively, 47 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 4: they are loaded talent wise, so they've got an outstanding defense. 48 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 4: Give me a top notch offensive line, a top notch defense, 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 4: and then also the quarterback, and I'll take that team 50 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 4: many day of the week. 51 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: So Ohio State, I have my reservations because the eluse 52 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: sixteen starters. You have the two best players to meet, 53 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: Caleb Downs and Jeremiah smith But I don't know what 54 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: Julian saying is, how do you make a prediction? We 55 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: know they're a recruiting factory, but how tough is it 56 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: to make a decision when you we really have nothing 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: to work with at the most important position in the sport, 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: which is obviously quarterback. 59 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of times you have to look 60 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: at the surrounding cast, and I think when you look 61 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: at Ohio State, they've got that surrounding cass Jerremi Smithkin 62 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: will make a lot of people look good at wide receiver. 63 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 4: They've got talent, their running back, offense line. Actually, there's 64 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: no questioning the talent of Ohio State. The question is experienced. 65 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: So I believe it or not. You look at their schedule, Colin, 66 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: they could be favored in all twelve games this year. 67 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: They're already favored over Texas in the opener. But I 68 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 4: think that inexperience may bite them a little bit in 69 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 4: a game or two. And let's keep in mind last 70 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 4: year's NFL laden team with all those seniors, watched two 71 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: games in the regular season. They didn't even win the 72 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 4: Big Ten. They didn't even beat Michigan for a fourth 73 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 4: straight year. So I think Ohio State might slip up 74 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: a game or two this year. But there's no doubting 75 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: the talent they have compiled. 76 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: So we all talk about Arch Manning. But last night 77 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: I had an extra hour and I just went deep 78 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: diving on Cade Klubnik and I went back to his 79 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Austin High school, Westlake in Austin. The kid is a 80 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: real athlete. You know, Arch is going to get the love. 81 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: Nus Meyer Drew Aller and I looked at this kid, 82 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like, are we are? Because the ACC doesn't 83 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: get the love. Clemson doesn't use the transfer portal much. 84 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: I think they have three guys they went this year, 85 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: which the surplus for them is it possible that cade 86 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Club Nick, he is the best quarterback in the sport 87 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: this year. 88 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I picked him to win the Heisman Colin, and 89 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. You go back two years ago 90 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: he had nineteen touchdowns and just nine interceptions, and people 91 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: were wondering about him. But coming into that season in 92 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: twenty three, he lost his top three receivers due to injury. Well, 93 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: last year he got those injury receivers back. They had 94 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: it in a couple of top notch frosh and all 95 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 4: of a sudden, thirty six touchdowns, just six interceptions. He's 96 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: operating behind my number two rated offensive line. He's got 97 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: my number two set of receivers to throw to. And 98 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 4: when I look at Clemson schedule, I've got him winning 99 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 4: all twelve games. So I think Club Nick leads the 100 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: nation in passing, leads a twelve and ohero team, and 101 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: I believe he's going to take home to Heisman this year. 102 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I ran a four six', five so the kid 103 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: can really move WITH nfl teams love as. Well so 104 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: on my friends out west are, like what do you 105 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: think OF? Usc AND i keep saying outside Of Molik 106 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: lemonar receiver And Kamari ramsey with. Safety i'm, LIKE i 107 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: don't think that good enough to win ten or eleven. 108 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: Games you look at THE usc schedule, now they have 109 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: a very good twenty twenty six recruiting, class but that's 110 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: not on campus. YET i just don't think they have 111 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: enough difference makers outside a receiver and a great. Safety 112 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: what say you on their overall? Talent the overall TALENT 113 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: i questioned a little. BIT i like THIS usc team 114 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: and you go back to last. Year you look at their. 115 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: Losses The michigan game where they gave up that big 116 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 4: run Of mullins and then a fourth and goal. Conversion 117 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 4: The maryland, game they're kicking a field goal that go 118 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: up by nine and it gets blocked return of midfield 119 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: to give up a late. 120 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 3: Touchdown they had five close. 121 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: Losses Could evelands have been an eleven TO oo team 122 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 4: at one point last? Season Danton LYNN i love his defense. 123 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: COORDINATOR i think he's going to get the most out 124 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 4: of this. Defense might be one Of rilly's. Best as 125 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 4: long as they get the play out of their quarterback 126 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 4: this year In, mayava THEN i think THAT usc could 127 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 4: make some. NOISE i thought they were a much better 128 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: team than the record last, year SO. 129 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: I wondered How Notre dame would do in THE. Nil 130 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: there's a and. Standard they don't use it, much But 131 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: Notre dame has an advantage that the guys they bring 132 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: into their program generally don't. Leave if you decide On Notre, 133 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: dame it's more than. Football there's probably an academic reality 134 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: that it's hard to get in and if you choose 135 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: at your STAND i Think Marcus freeman has done a 136 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: really good. Job are they good enough a? QUARTERBACK i, 137 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: mean what do you see going? 138 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: Forward? 139 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 4: YEAH i think when you look At Notre, dame look 140 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 4: at that title game last. Year they were down their 141 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: top defensive, lineman their top offensive. Lineman running Back love 142 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 4: was not one hundred percent or. Else who, knows maybe 143 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 4: they would have Given Ohio state an even better game 144 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: than they gave. Him they've gotten a new quarterback this 145 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: year IN. Cj, carr but he's surrounded by. TALENT i 146 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 4: love the Lice Love Price combo at running. Back it's 147 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 4: my number two running back core in the, country number 148 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 4: three offensive. LINE i like the additions they got a 149 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: receiver and, defensively each unit's rated in my top five 150 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: And they're solid on special. Teams i've got The irish 151 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 4: favorite in all twelve games this. Year, wow tough opener 152 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 4: At miami Of, Florida. Chrysti boll's got a really Good miami, 153 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: Team BUT i Think Notre dame's a legitimate national title. 154 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: Contender And Marcus freeman student at tremendous. 155 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Job he just got great, energy totally. Relatable So belichick's 156 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: bringing on forty new. Transfers what is your? Takeaway because 157 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: it's a science for. You i've never met anybody quite like. 158 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: You what do you? Make i'm kind of one of 159 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: THOSE i like players out of high. SCHOOL i know the. 160 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: ODOMETER i feel If georgia lets the guy, go there's 161 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: a reason for. It what is your take five years into? 162 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: Nil do you like? It are you cynical on? It 163 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: what do you? Make Because belichick's going to rely on? 164 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 5: It you. 165 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 4: KNOW i did a blog in phil steel dot com 166 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 4: about homegrown Players colin and IT'S i think teams like A, 167 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: clemson like A Notre, dame Even Ohio state last. Year 168 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 4: while they had some, transfers the majority of the team 169 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 4: is homegrown freshmen that turned into. Seniors AND i think 170 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 4: those teams are going to have the most. Success Even 171 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: army And navy last year had great, success more than 172 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: anybody would have. Thought think it's because they're. Homegrown So 173 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 4: i'm concerned about the amount of. Transfers But Bill belichick 174 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: and then they Think North carolina got a gift in the. 175 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: Schedule there are very few games where you would Put 176 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 4: North carolina a definite. Underdog AND i think if the 177 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: players come in and buy, in which they should Under Bill, 178 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 4: BELICHICK i Think North carolina can have a sneaky good 179 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: year this. Year But i'm concerned about any team that 180 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 4: has forty transfers like they. 181 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: Have, okay give me one. Team i'm gonna Pick. Illinois 182 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: give me one team under the. Radar IF i Said, 183 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: phil they ended up ten and one or ten and. 184 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: Two what is your dark horse team in college? 185 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: Football, YEAH i like Your illinois. 186 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: PICK i think a lot of people are picking up 187 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 4: us and So i'm going to go away from. That 188 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: i'm going to Say, oklahoma a team that was six 189 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: and seven last. Year you take a look At oklahoma last. 190 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 4: Year they had zero returning starters on the offensive, line 191 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: they were down their top five receivers at one point 192 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 4: to do the injury. Well this, year they've got a 193 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: veteran offensive line at veteran receiving. Core they get their 194 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: injured players back much Like Game Club nickson did two years. 195 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 4: Ago they've had In Jayden NodD who was the best 196 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 4: running back in The pac. Twelve they add In John mattia. 197 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 4: Quarterback they add In Washington states Offense couardier And Ben. 198 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 4: Arbuckle nothing was wrong that defense last year they held 199 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 4: upon a saightty seven yards per, game below their average 200 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 4: number six in the. Country the defense is outstanding now 201 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: they have an offense to go with. It last year 202 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 4: they had THREE sec home. Games this year they only 203 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: have THREE sec road. Games they have The texas game 204 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: at a neutral. Site watch out For. Oklahoma they could 205 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 4: be that FOURTH sec team to make the. 206 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: Playoff, okay you can hear his. Knowledge go To Phil 207 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: steele dot. Com WHEN i watch college football on A, 208 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: saturday one THING i always, have and it's not a draft, 209 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: beer It's Phil steel's magazine in my lap AS i 210 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: am following the. Sport Phil steele dot com is that 211 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: the best place they can go to get your Mag. 212 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 4: Yeah barnes And noble books a million the only two 213 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 4: brick and mortar stores are Phil steel dot. 214 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: Com, awesome get me all fired? Up thank You. 215 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 3: Phil hey always great talking to. 216 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 5: You. 217 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: Collin all, Right, Oklahoma, hey what do you make of 218 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: That oklahoma story and the quarterback and The venmo? Thing you, 219 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: KNOW i know every CAN i let me just say. 220 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: This let me just say this is THAT I venmo 221 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: once in a, while AND i got kids That venmo 222 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: and they make. Jokes it's like a running. Gag, Right 223 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: so everybody's crushing This oklahoma quarterback because he put on 224 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: His venmo five hundred dollars USC ucla game and he's, like, no, no, 225 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: no it was a joke with my. Friends, now as a, 226 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: QUARTERBACK i would not. Joke as a college, ATHLETE i 227 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: would not joke about that. Stuff but all my kids 228 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: or most have joked On. Venmo it's like a running 229 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: gag On venmo that you put in somehow why you 230 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: need the, Money like it's kind of Even i'm, ann you, 231 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: KNOW i even get, it And i'm a, Dad like 232 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: that's like a running. Joke so what was your take on? 233 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 2: It here's my take is a little. 234 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 6: Different how much of a loser do you have to 235 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 6: be to be looking in some One's venmo transaction history 236 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 6: for anything. 237 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: Suspicious Colin this was three years. 238 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 6: Ago this is what these college football message boards guides. 239 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 6: Do they're, like, ooh what can we find dirt on this? 240 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 6: Guy let's look at His venmo transactions like you're going 241 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 6: three years deep to Find oh my, gosh you wrote 242 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 6: about gambling and trying to out the. Guy it's just 243 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 6: it's disturbing how this came to. 244 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: Light i'm with you one thousand. Percent it's clearly a. 245 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 6: Joke the idea that THE ncaa should investigate this is. 246 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: LAUGHABLE i, mean getting a break. 247 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: We agree on. Something Phil steele knows so much about college. 248 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: Football Tony, grossy, journalist will be joining us before the 249 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: end of the. SHOW i like the fact That Tony 250 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: grossy did not back. 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Imaginable don't listen to the show 260 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 8: so it can get. 261 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: Camp what the hell are you doing in our? 262 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 2: Studio get ignore that. Fool listen to The pauli And 263 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: Tony Fusco show on The iHeartRadio app or wherever you 264 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 2: get your. Podcast he's still. 265 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: Moving Tony grocy has been covering The Cleveland browns for 266 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: over four. Decades in that, time they have the losing 267 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: this record in THE. Nfl that man has. Endured he'll 268 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: be joining us before the end of the. Show here's 269 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: J mackle the. 270 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: News turn on the. 271 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 7: News this is The Herdline Newsry, colin let's go. 272 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 6: Back To Mike, sandos quarterback tears and hit On Justin. 273 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: Herbert. 274 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 6: LISTEN a lot of voters Believe herbert would eventually Reach tier, 275 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 6: one but had a few flaws keep him from fully 276 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 6: reaching his. 277 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 2: Potential, obviously one of them is not winning a playoff game. 278 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 6: Yet one offensive coach, Said herbert lets little things distract. 279 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: Him that's a little. STRANGE i don't know how you know. 280 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 6: That, meanwhile defensive coordinator, added he's just a little bit. 281 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 6: Robotic you can tell by the way he processes. Everything 282 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 6: it's a click slower than some of the. ELITES i 283 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 6: would agree that he does look robotic at. 284 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: Times that was the. 285 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: Criticism that was his criticism out of, college that he 286 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: was a mechanical and a bit, robotic AND i think 287 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: THAT'S i would, say, YES i think he has a 288 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: beautiful throwing, motion but he IS i, mean first of, 289 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: all he's really, accurate really strong and moves really well 290 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: and The chargers always get quarterback. Right BUT i think 291 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: the criticisms of him are. Fair when you say robotic 292 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he doesn't move, well but there Is that 293 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: was a nog in fact That Tom telesco was The CHARGERS. 294 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Gm that was his worry and then he went and 295 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: watched him Against wisconsin and, said, man he's really. Good 296 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: he's not overly, robotic but at, times you, know he's 297 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: a bit. MECHANICAL i think his delivery is the prettiest 298 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: in the, league you know how Like Jerry west was a. 299 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: Logo when he throws the, ball you could make him 300 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: THE nfl logo if there was a. Player he has 301 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: the most, perfect, functional foundational throwing. Motion BUT i think 302 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: his one of his core straints is as, well, humility 303 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: like everybody loves. Him people his teammates want to win for. 304 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 6: Him, YEAH i don't see how robotic this guy acting 305 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 6: like it's a. Knock So herbert had three interceptions last 306 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 6: year league low interception percentage rate in the league among. 307 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: Quarterbacks like he's processing. 308 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 6: Great the problem, is of, course he just doesn't have 309 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 6: enough around, him which gets into an interesting. Discussion, Hey 310 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 6: Jalen hurts has too. Much we can't give him enough. 311 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 6: Credit Justin herbert doesn't have. Enough let's give him a 312 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 6: lot of. CREDIT i don't, KNOW i think certainly in 313 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 6: that six seven eight. 314 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: Range. 315 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: Soli let's go. 316 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: To The Detroit, Lions. 317 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 6: Colin obviously they lost both coordinators this. Offseason you AND 318 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 6: i think The lions take a step, back and that 319 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 6: was kind of on display in their first preseason. 320 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 2: Game the media Believes. 321 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 6: Detroit will take a step back, too and that has 322 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 6: only Motivated Dan, campbell who SAID i would be lying 323 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 6: IF i said that doesn't get me going a little. 324 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: Bit that's the next. 325 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: Challenge, YEAH i mean the division's, good and let's just 326 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: SAY jj McCarthy delivers and is a GOOD b. QUARTERBACK 327 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: b TO b plus, Quarterback well you're not winning them 328 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: in a. Game that goes back to my theory on 329 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: when the division's, good it's just harder to win. Games 330 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: and that's Why Kansas city's gonna win eleven games and not. 331 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: Fourteen it's just a division suddenly is just too. Good 332 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: and so IF jj McCarthy can play and The packers 333 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: AND jj McCarthy in chicago's going to be. Interesting they 334 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: have too much time out and good of a coach 335 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: not to be. Interesting SO i think stepping back is 336 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: it's not a, criticism it's a reality of what they 337 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: are and what the division. 338 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 6: IS i also love how, everybody's, oh we don't pay 339 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 6: attention to the. Media we only care about what's in 340 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 6: this locker. Room, meanwhile you've Got Scheduor sanders going up 341 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 6: To Tony, Grosi you've Got Dan. Campbell, YEAH i see 342 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 6: the media saying. This they all pay. ATTENTION i know 343 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 6: they say they Don't schottenneim are putting. 344 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,119 Speaker 2: On advisor backwards and mentioning you by. Name they all read. 345 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 6: And watch and, listen, like let's just be. Real, Finally 346 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 6: Colin sportico has released THEIR nfl valuations heading into the, 347 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 6: season and The Dallas cowboys remain number one twelve point, two, 348 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 6: sorry twelve point eight billion dollars according To, portico The 349 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 6: rams checking in, Second The New York giants are. 350 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: Third Patriots. 351 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 6: Niners you see on the screen There, eagles My jets 352 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 6: somehow checking in at eight because they're In New. 353 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: YORK i think these are all lower than the. Truth 354 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: if there's somebody out, there What's Jeff bezos? Is what 355 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: is his? Networth amazon's going? Nowhere, Yeah i'm guessing his 356 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: net worth is forty billion dollars or? Something what is? It? Two, 357 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: okay So Jeff bezos has a two hundred and fifty 358 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: billion dollar net. Worth you don't think he'd spend fifteen 359 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: billion to own The. Rams wait a, Minute wait a, 360 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: minute hold. 361 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 2: It this is like house Hunching. 362 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: Colin come, on no, Cash you're never selling. It you 363 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: have no banknotes. Cash When Steve balmer a decade ago 364 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: or whatever it, was spent two billion on The clippers 365 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: and there was, Pushback i'm, like, folks he bought it, 366 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: cash he's never selling. It if you buy a lake 367 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: how or if you buy a beach house On, laguna 368 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: and let's say it's listened at twenty. Four you get 369 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: into bidding warry and you offer twenty. Eight they're not 370 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: building any more beach houses In, Laguna like there is 371 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: certain there are no More La. Rams this is it 372 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: the fact that there are people on this. Planet Jeff 373 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: bezos has media. Holdings if you don't think If Stan 374 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: kronky tomorrow Called jeff and SAID i want to give 375 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: the team, up And jeff's, like let's SAY i got 376 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty billion, network this is a parking. 377 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: Ticket he'd buy it in a. 378 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 6: Second, Yes but for The laguna beach. HOUSE a lot 379 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 6: of people can afford twenty eight million. Dollars now there 380 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 6: are only a handful of people on the planet who 381 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 6: can afford a fifteen. 382 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: Billion where are all the richest people in the. World 383 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: where are they all? Investing what do you guarantee that 384 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: will never go? Away Manchester, united The, yankees The. Dodgers 385 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: you don't know Where google's going to. Be thank god 386 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: they Bought YouTube And. CLOUD i, mean, like you don't 387 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: know there's a company THAT'S i, think reportedly buying For. 388 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: Google you do not know Where apple is going to 389 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: be in ten. YEARS i know where the rams are 390 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: going to be at so far in THE nfl In Los. 391 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: Angeles those are the safest investments for. 392 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 6: Billionaire about an hour, ago The Portland trailblazers were sold. 393 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: For like four billion. 394 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 6: Dollars The Portland trailblazers four. Billion who bought? Them some 395 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 6: owner of The Carolina. Hurricanes he's not moving the. Team 396 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 6: he's just buying an mbat all. 397 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: Right. Jmckle the, News. 398 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 7: Well that's the, news and thanks for stopping by the herd. 399 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: Line news was that was? THAT i didn't know, that 400 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: BUT i don't have my phone around me during the. 401 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: Show it just, happened according to a reporter in THE. 402 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: Nba so they're not moving the. 403 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 2: Team they're not moving the, team all. 404 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: Right, Well caroline has already got a, team not much of, 405 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: one but they got, one all. Right Tony grossi And 406 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: Shnuer sanders had that, little you, know that little. Moment 407 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: this guy's been covering The Cleveland browns for forty. Years 408 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: that's incredible and the fact that he has, SURVIVED i, mean, 409 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: seriously is something. Else so he was in the middle 410 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: of a little bit of a national. Story we thought it. 411 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: WAS i didn't Like Shador sanders going. OVER i think 412 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: you have to have bigger concerns in your life than. 413 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: This i'm, sorry but you know there was a smile 414 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: at the. End but we'll have the guy that was 415 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: involved in. This you got silver. Hair always trust a 416 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: guy with silver. Hair those guys know what they're. 417 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 7: Doing be sure to catch live editions Of The herd 418 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 7: weekdays And Noone, easter not A empacific. 419 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: Franchises are just not. Interesting but there are. Two The 420 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: Chicago cubs for years and years and The Cleveland browns 421 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: that even when they're losing and, dysfunctional they're kind of. 422 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: Fascinating AND i was joking with our next, guest IS 423 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: i Think i've outside of maybe The patriots With brady 424 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: and The chiefs With, MAHOMES i talk More Cleveland browns 425 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: than almost any OTHER nfl, franchise maybe maybe The bills 426 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: now over the last seven eight years With Josh. Allen 427 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: But Tony grossy's been covering this team in THE nfl 428 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: since the early. Eighties host of The Daily grossy and 429 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: Former Plaine, dealer kind of a Legendary midwest. Newspaper So, 430 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: tony first of, all you have endured for. Sure that 431 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: is let's start With Jimmy. Haslam So i've been very 432 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: critical Of haslam WHERE i, think AND i was of Jim. 433 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: ERSAY i think there's at any one time there's six great, 434 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: quarterbacks six great left, tackles and six great. Owners there's 435 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: a lot more impulsive dysfunctional owners than fans. Realize is. 436 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: That you Know Robert, kraft But Jerry jones has moved 437 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: into sort of impulsive odd. Category i'm not a HUGE 438 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: haslm fan based on some Things i've heard and. Seen 439 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: how is he, viewed not by, you but By cleveland 440 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: fans as he viewed as part of the. 441 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 9: Problem, well the record speaks for. Itself he's in his 442 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 9: thirteenth season of owning The browns that has some, family 443 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 9: and the record has been, awful and he had a 444 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 9: lot of growing pains. EARLY i actually think he's maturing 445 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 9: as an. Owner you, know The Kevin Stefanski Andrew berry, 446 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 9: partnership the coach gm are now in their sixth. Season 447 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 9: they've outlasted any other combination under the half of, ownership 448 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 9: AND i think he's learned to be patient and trust 449 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 9: his football people a lot more than. Previously but he 450 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 9: still has that reputation until they WIN i, mean they've 451 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 9: never won a division title since they've been back as 452 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 9: an expansion, team so the, record you, know precludes. Him 453 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 9: it's what he's known. For BUT i think he's. Mature, okay, 454 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 9: listen we all. 455 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: Grow SO i, SAID i Thought Shador sanders was, Underdrafted 456 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: Jackson dart a little. Overdrafted And i've been. THERE i 457 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: have been very positive with. HIM i thought he played Great. 458 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: FRIDAY i think he's got maturity. ISSUES i hated the 459 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: legendary draft room. Nonsense the speeding tickets rolled me. NUTS 460 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: i did not love him coming up to. You so 461 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: let's go to that. Moment you're. Outspoken you don't last 462 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: as long as you. Do you've got to be credible 463 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: in the. Market so what did you say? That it 464 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: had him a whole riled. 465 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 5: Up you, KNOW i don't know if there's anything. 466 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 9: Specific it's just that since he, Arrived i've treated him 467 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 9: as just one of the ninety. Players he's got these, 468 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 9: lesion these incredible legion of fans who think The Cleveland 469 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 9: brown season is all About Shador sanders this, year AND i. 470 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 9: Haven't i've stayed away from that. Mentality although although we 471 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 9: Talked shador constantly on our. AIR i have to be 472 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 9: fair to you, know what else is going on with the, 473 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 9: team and there have been a few THINGS i questioned 474 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 9: the first time at rookie mini, camp Seeing Dylan gabriel 475 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 9: And Shador sanders on the field together that first, DAY 476 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 9: i came away and, SAID i understand why The browns 477 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 9: Took Dylan gabriel ahead Of Shooter. SANDERS i Thought gabriel 478 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 9: did some things That sanders at that time didn't. Do 479 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 9: i'm not sure there's one smoking gun thing THAT i 480 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 9: said to get him riled. 481 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 5: Up and that was the first. 482 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 9: Time you, know we've been in this camp for three 483 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 9: going on four, weeks and after that game was the 484 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 9: first time he said anything to. 485 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: Me fourth on the depth chart after that, performance you, 486 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 1: KNOW i don't. Know it's like the depth chart should 487 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: be based on. Performance everybody else is hurt staying healthy 488 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: as a. Skill were you surprised he was still? 489 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 9: Fourth the REASON i say, No, colin is BECAUSE i 490 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 9: think The browns are following their script of their training, 491 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 9: camp and one performance wasn't going to affect the next. 492 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 9: Day that performance will probably well obviously will affect his 493 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 9: whole body of work when they evaluate everything but the thing, 494 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 9: Is Dylan gabriel hasn't had his opportunity. Yet they Evaluated, 495 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 9: gabriel you know, what the forty spots fifty spots higher 496 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 9: in the, draft and they want to be fair to 497 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 9: their own evaluation of, them and they want to See 498 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 9: gabriel on the field before they make any adjustment to 499 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 9: the depth. CHART i think that's coming after this. Week 500 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 9: they're here In philadelphia practicing against The. Eagles gabriel is 501 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 9: scheduled to start that game in all, likelihood and the 502 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 9: coach said today, finally for the first, time the plan 503 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 9: was to have each of the rookies start one game in. 504 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 9: Preseason SO i think that's why they haven't adjusted is 505 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 9: either snapcounts in practice or the. 506 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: Rotation do you think they'll keep four. Quarterbacks i've speculated 507 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: they'll Move Kenny pickett at the end of camp or 508 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: trade deadline or. Someone what do you make about keeping four. 509 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 9: QUARTERBACKS i think it's very, possible you, know with sixteen 510 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 9: on the practice, squad that they can keep four quarterbacks 511 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 9: on the fifty three and accommodate the positions that they 512 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 9: sacrifice then on the practice. SQUAD i think they're very 513 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 9: disappointed and frustrated That pickett has not gotten on tape 514 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 9: during game action to show everybody what they might see 515 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 9: in him that they think highly of. Them but his 516 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 9: hamstring problems have set back any idea of trading him 517 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 9: or a market for. Him BUT i can see them 518 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 9: going into the season with all four and just seeing 519 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 9: what happens around the rest of the. League you, Know 520 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 9: pickett does have some redeeming qualities for the right. TEAM i, 521 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 9: mean he's in his fourth, year he's been with two other, 522 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 9: Teams he's been a first round. Pick he just hasn't 523 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 9: been able to show this camp what The browns saw in. 524 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: Him So i've said through the, YEARS i don't like 525 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: my quarterbacks to be too light and un. Serious Johnny 526 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: manziel is too, Goofy baker was too. Cocky BUT i like, 527 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: confidence AND i get a lot of pushback on, that 528 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: BUT i always Say i've been pretty good at seeing. 529 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: It AND i didn't Like Will levis and The Gun. 530 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: SHOW i thought it was arrogant, again, confidence arrogance and. 531 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: Silly there are Times i've said With shadu or he's 532 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: a little unseerious for, ME a little playful is? THAT 533 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: i mean That that's my take is that history shows 534 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: you that, serious, driven, focused almost obsessed guys do well 535 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: in this. League what do you make of that comment 536 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: he's a bit. 537 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 9: UNSEERIOUS i think he's got a playful. Personality you, know 538 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 9: he's Really i've constantly said this SINCE i met him 539 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 9: at The. Combine you cannot leave a conversation With shador without. 540 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 9: SMILING i, mean he is a very positive and playful. 541 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 9: GUY i don't think that gets into the way of his. 542 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 9: JOB i think that endears him To teammates's a it's 543 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 9: a different kind of charisma about. HIM i find him 544 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 9: really charming as a as a young young. Person, actually, 545 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 9: Okay i've not had confrontations with. Them you, know that 546 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 9: was an interaction and that was the only time he 547 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 9: said anything to me that he was even hearing things 548 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 9: or reading. 549 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: Things, yeah it really is. Interesting the obviously they have 550 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: two first round. Picks they want to get a. Quarterback, 551 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: boy it's a good quarterback class cade Club nick At 552 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: clemson And Drew aller and Nuss meyer and obviously Arch, 553 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: manning AND i mean They cleveland's looking for a quarterback 554 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: and it's the year to be looking for a. Quarterback, 555 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: Finally Tony groci for the radio, audience a very very 556 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: very popular and Renowned cleveland host and former newspaper. Guy 557 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: it looks like to, me in this division they're like 558 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: a four win. Team it's it's not an easy. Schedule 559 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: it's not an easy. Division But i've said, before like 560 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: When Peyton manning, left there are years in a franchise 561 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: when four wins is. Okay and this is the year For. 562 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland let's say they go four and. THIRTEEN i worry 563 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: About haslam being. Impulsive Is stefanski held in high enough 564 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: regard that if they're really bad and get the number two, 565 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: pick That stefanski maintains his. Job it seems obvious he. 566 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: Would but the history Of cleveland And haslam is they 567 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: make moves that. Surprises so let's say are three and. 568 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: Fourteen Does stefanski retain? 569 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 9: It, yeah this is WHERE i Think haslam's maturity comes. 570 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,719 Speaker 9: IN i think that decision has already been. MADE i 571 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 9: think Both stefanski And Andrew berry are part of the 572 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 9: solution of bringing The browns out of The Deshaun watson. 573 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 9: Era you, know they still have a few years of 574 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 9: salary cap. Ramifications no matter what happens With watson from 575 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 9: here on. 576 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 5: Out so they need. 577 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 9: To go to the young rookie quarterback contract way to 578 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 9: get out of this. 579 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 5: Thing AND i THINK haslm. 580 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 9: Is relying on this partnership to see it. Through in, 581 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 9: effact he's not holding them accountable for the mistake that 582 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 9: The Deshaun wahsington trade has. Been AND i don't have 583 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 9: any doubt that the scenario you're describing will not be 584 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 9: the end of this. Partnership it's really they're the guys 585 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 9: that are going to lead them into the next quarterback, 586 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 9: era whether that's The Dylan gabriel Or Shoulder sanders, era 587 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 9: or The Leonora sellers or that next crop. ERA i 588 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 9: THINK haslm is determined that this is the this is the, 589 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 9: plan and he said before the, draft if we don't 590 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,239 Speaker 9: find the guy this, year we'll keep looking for. 591 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 5: Him and you, know people want. 592 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 9: To do to start and they got to find out about. 593 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 5: It you, know it's a long. 594 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 9: Season The browns have played nine starting quarterbacks the last two. 595 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 9: Years both of these guys are going to get, there you, 596 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 9: know their dress. Rehearsals so we'll see how it plays. 597 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 9: Out BUT i agree with, YOU i don't think you 598 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 9: can let that quarterback class next year pass you, by 599 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 9: no matter what happens this. 600 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 5: Year to be honest with. 601 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: You, no it is a great. One so we. Have 602 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: Jalen hurts Gave shadu a ride in a golf cart 603 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: today joint, practices which is good to. See apparently they 604 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: had a long. Conversation we got to. Run TONY grossi 605 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: has been kind enough to take. Time he's a busy. 606 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: Guy there we. Go by the, way if you're going 607 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: to take advice from any young, quarterback take it From Jalen, 608 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: hurts who's twenty seven going on forty. Seven it might 609 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: as well bring a briefcase to the. Podium he's one 610 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: of the most mature young men that. IS i don't 611 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: know If i've ever seen a guy who is better 612 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: at the. Podium in a, loud relentless market In philadelphia's 613 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: media is, brutal And hurts has mastered. It. Tony thank 614 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: you for stopping by your Great. 615 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 5: Tony, Gross Thanks, colin thanks for having. 616 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: Me of, course support those radio, guys seeing them all