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Speaker 1: It is May twenty eighth, the year of our Lord

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Speaker 1: in two thoy and twenty. We have got such a

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Speaker 1: jam pack show. I'm wasting no time. You probably have

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Speaker 1: already heard the news if you're under a rock, or

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Speaker 1: perhaps you just have a life and don't have time

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Speaker 1: to keep up with football. That's not happening. Allegedly in May, JT.

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Speaker 1: Daniels is no longer a University of Southern California Trojan,

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Speaker 1: and no longer is he even in the transfer portal.

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Speaker 1: He has landed at Tennessee. Nope, not Tennessee, going to Georgia.

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Speaker 1: So at least we got the division right, or did

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Speaker 1: we get more than that right? That coming up momentarily,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about that. Several different angles to go, many

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Speaker 1: of which were brought up by you, the Georgia fan today,

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Speaker 1: So we're going to hit a whole lot of that.

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Speaker 1: I've also got to go straight out to the West

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Speaker 1: coast for a second. Talk about what Mario Cristalball and

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Speaker 1: Oregon are doing and are in the process of doing

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Speaker 1: and will continue to do. You know, they're building something

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Speaker 1: out there that is very atypical of what Oregon football

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Speaker 1: has been, and to be honest with you, pretty atypical

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Speaker 1: to what Pac twelve football is. And by default, if

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Speaker 1: you're going to compete, you have to be atypical to

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Speaker 1: what the rest of that conference has been. As of late. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Bama's heating up too. Only have six commits right now.

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Speaker 1: I think that was right Colin the average star ranking

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Speaker 1: around ninety four. I think the average player rating a

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Speaker 1: little north of ninety four. All that means Alabama's still

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Speaker 1: not ranked in the top thirty in recruiting, yet we

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Speaker 1: all over the place. If anyone looks you in the

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Speaker 1: deliver content, but there's just nothing going on, slap them virtually.

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Speaker 1: Of course, can't do anything physically, right now, get that

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Speaker 1: out of your life. There's a lot going on. Let

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Speaker 1: us prove it to you over the next thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive in the big news today. JT. Daniels transferring

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Speaker 1: from USC to Georgia. Will he be immediately eligible well

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Speaker 1: as of right now, at time of recording. No, could

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Speaker 1: that change by clothes of business tomorrow. Yeah, I can

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Speaker 1: tell you talking to some people. Had our ear on

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Speaker 1: the ground all day he had talking to some people

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Speaker 1: at Georgia. The hope is that they'll be able to

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Speaker 1: hoops that maybe like a Tate Martell was able to

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Speaker 1: do once upon a time not so long ago, and

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Speaker 1: get him eligible. Basically, it's like trying to nail jello

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Speaker 1: to the old wall when it comes to knowing which

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Speaker 1: be able to get around. So listen, if I had

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Speaker 1: to bet money, I think there's a half decent chance

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Speaker 1: that he'll be eligible. But I don't have any inside

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Speaker 1: information on that, nor does anyone else. How does this

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Speaker 1: prospects brought Vandergriff most notably current five star quarterback in

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Speaker 1: high school senior right now upcoming senior for Georgia. So

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Speaker 1: there are so many different ways to go, and some

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Speaker 1: of you even wanted to ask, is this necessary? Why

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Speaker 1: are we even taking a quarterback? We've already got Newman

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Speaker 1: as if the maximum capacity for good quarterback talent on

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Speaker 1: stuff said today that people will tell you there are

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Speaker 1: no dumb questions, Yeah, there are. There's another dumb statement,

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Speaker 1: dispel tonight. So I want to kick things off by

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Speaker 1: going in reverse about two weeks to the May twentieth

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Speaker 1: edition of the Late Kick Extra podcast. Sometimes, what we

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Speaker 1: use recent's pieces because we're on a budget around here,

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Speaker 1: is we'd like to just drop little morsels as much

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Speaker 1: but we don't know if it's going to happen. So

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Speaker 1: Colin's about to roll for you a clip from our

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Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra podcast. That's the one that we release

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Speaker 1: every Wednesday. It's the mail bag, it's your questions, it's

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Speaker 1: Quarterback's key though, and I want you to think about this.

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Speaker 1: This is something that a lot of programs are going

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, did you really think Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: You have a finite amount of resources, even at Georgia,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about time and energy. You can only be

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Speaker 1: great at so many things. No program, including the greatest

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Speaker 1: Here's a painful reality, not painful for a Georgia fan,

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Speaker 1: just go depends solely on taking transfers. That would be ignorant.

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Speaker 1: That is a very soft mentality. It's just for lack

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Speaker 1: It's a soft mentality, and it's not the way competitors think,

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Speaker 1: and it's not a championship culture. And there's never been

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Speaker 1: Smart's going to do it. Whether you like it on

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Speaker 1: But think about this for a second. Think about the chemistry. Okay,

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Speaker 1: just from the standpoint of whether it messes up the

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Speaker 1: to go seven to five? The answer is no. Do

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Speaker 1: You have championship aspirations. That means you got to have

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Speaker 1: doesn't hurt a championship organization. It only bolsters the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to try at Oregon. Just a decade ago, chip Kelly

430
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Speaker 1: came into Oregon, changed the entire landscape out there. And

431
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Speaker 1: now Mario Christaball come into Oregon and has taken full

432
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Speaker 1: advantage using the inverse of the style that chip Kelly used.

433
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Speaker 1: And now here's part two of the blessing that was

434
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Speaker 1: chip Kelly. Because of the success they had and because

435
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Speaker 1: of the national brand that Oregon became a decade later,

436
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Speaker 1: everyone knows Oregon. People I grew up in Georgia. Everyone

437
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Speaker 1: in Georgia knows Oregon. Those high school kids, there's appeal

438
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Speaker 1: to the University of Oregon. Most some of them couldn't

439
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Speaker 1: find Oregon on a map. But they know the O,

440
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Speaker 1: they know all the uniforms, they know the brand. That's

441
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Speaker 1: what they know. And so now Mario Christopaul has walked

442
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Speaker 1: into Oregon. And whereas it again would have been a

443
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Speaker 1: death sentence to ever try and recruit nationally a decade

444
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Speaker 1: to go at Oregon. Now, do yourself a favor, not

445
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Speaker 1: right now, but maybe after the show. Go pull up

446
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Speaker 1: Oregon's commitment list, look at last year, look at this

447
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Speaker 1: year so far, and I can tell you it's only

448
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Speaker 1: gonna exclamate the point I'm about to make as we

449
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Speaker 1: get closer to signing day, look at where they're going.

450
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Speaker 1: In fact, it would be a shorter list to aim.

451
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Speaker 1: The place is the regions they're not going nationally. They're

452
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Speaker 1: taking full advantage of what Chip Kelly built there. They're

453
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Speaker 1: taking full advantage of the brand that's been built there,

454
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Speaker 1: and they're also doing it in an opposite way that

455
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Speaker 1: built the brand. That's beautiful, But here's the real cherry

456
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Speaker 1: on top. What we've seen a lot. Oklahoma's kind of

457
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Speaker 1: an example of this. What we've seen a lot with

458
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Speaker 1: more flashy type offenses, A lot of you would call

459
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Speaker 1: it too much icing, not enough cake. Necessarily is they're

460
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Speaker 1: built to maybe win certain conferences, in Oklahoma's case, the

461
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Speaker 1: Big Twelve. Maybe in years past what Oregon did was

462
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Speaker 1: good enough to win the Pac Twelve, but eventually you're

463
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Speaker 1: going to have to go through someone who has built

464
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Speaker 1: their roster, the kind of way that Crystal Ball's trying

465
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Speaker 1: to build it now, the way they've had it at

466
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Speaker 1: Alabama for a long time, the way they did it

467
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Speaker 1: at LSU this last year. A lot of it looked flashy,

468
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Speaker 1: but they were physical. They were big, and they were physical.

469
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Speaker 1: No one who's winning championships has ever substituted that philosophy.

470
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Speaker 1: They've got to be physical. No one finesses their way

471
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Speaker 1: to a championship. You may finesse your way to a

472
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Speaker 1: conference championship in certain years in certain portions of the country,

473
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Speaker 1: but as the Oklahoma Sooners have found out, there's a

474
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Speaker 1: wide gap between getting to the playoff and winning at all.

475
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Speaker 1: The beauty behind what Mario Christbaul is doing is he's

476
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Speaker 1: implementing a style that transitions very well into the college

477
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Speaker 1: football playoff. And whereas you probably still have in your

478
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Speaker 1: mind this lower ceiling on Oregon because ultimately you think,

479
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Speaker 1: you know, they can't recruit on par with the big boys.

480
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Speaker 1: They are and it's not an overnight deal. They don't

481
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Speaker 1: go from recruiting top twenty classes to top five classes,

482
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Speaker 1: but it's a steady progression every year. They have the

483
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Speaker 1: national brand, they're taking full advantage of it. And there's

484
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Speaker 1: going to come a time not too long down the

485
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Speaker 1: road where they're going to get I believe, in one

486
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Speaker 1: of these college football playoff settings, and they're going to

487
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Speaker 1: be fully equipped. We're not sitting here predicting anything, but

488
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: they're going to be fully equipped to go toe to

489
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Speaker 1: toe with the best in the country. They get Ohio

490
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: State this year in Eugene, I can't tell you definitively

491
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Speaker 1: I believe they're ready to play Ohio State yet and

492
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Speaker 1: ready to beat Ohio State. Wouldn't be the biggest upset

493
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Speaker 1: in the world if they beat them. Game is in Eugene.

494
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Speaker 1: Don't know how many people will be in the stands,

495
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Speaker 1: But there's coming a time when this roster will fully

496
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Speaker 1: reflect what they're trying to build out there and what

497
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Speaker 1: they want their thumbprint on that program to be. And

498
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Speaker 1: when that happens, when that day gets here, some parts

499
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Speaker 1: of America who only casually pay attention to the sport

500
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: are going to see that Oregon program in the College

501
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: Football Playoff and they're going to say, this doesn't look

502
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: like the Oregon program I remember. Nope, Nope. In a

503
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: lot of ways, they're more equipped to do some damage

504
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Speaker 1: in the postseason than they ever would have been using

505
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Speaker 1: the previous blueprint, although ironically that blueprint has made this possible. Now,

506
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 1: let's transition right back to the Southeast, because there's a

507
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Speaker 1: lot going on here too. I've had a lot of people,

508
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Speaker 1: You've probably had a lot of people, and maybe you

509
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Speaker 1: are among these people who have looked and scratched their

510
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Speaker 1: head at where Alabama's been ranked in the national twenty

511
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Speaker 1: four to seven sports team recruiting rankings. They were in

512
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Speaker 1: the forties as of this morning. They are sitting at

513
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Speaker 1: thirty four as we come on the air today. They

514
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Speaker 1: got a commitment today from a linebacker out of Prattville, Alabama,

515
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: who really close to where I grew up, Ian Jackson.

516
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Speaker 1: This guy is about a six foot little over six

517
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Speaker 1: foot sixty one sixty to two kind of guy, about

518
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Speaker 1: two ten. Hey, let me stop and ask you something.

519
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: I just gave you his measurables six one and a

520
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: half two ten. What position do you think he plays?

521
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Speaker 1: Is it really easy to answer these days? It's not,

522
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: is it. Here's the beauty. I've been using that word

523
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: a lot tonight, and watch how Alabama's recruiting a lot

524
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Speaker 1: of these defensive guys. I think it ties into what

525
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Speaker 1: LSU is doing. To be honest with you, I'm gonna

526
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Speaker 1: get to that in a second. But he's a linebacker.

527
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Speaker 1: Ultimately a lot of people around Alabama think he'll shift

528
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Speaker 1: inside because of the mass quantity of elite edge guys

529
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Speaker 1: that they recruited last year and they also will recruit

530
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Speaker 1: this year because believe they're not done recruiting defensive talent

531
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Speaker 1: this cycle. But this is a guy I was reading

532
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Speaker 1: the interview over on Bama online dot Com that he

533
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: gave today. Those guys did a great job. They were

534
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: way ahead of this one, been ahead of it for

535
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. And he was talking about where

536
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: Alabama projects him, and he projects as maybe an outside guy,

537
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: maybe an inside guy, or maybe a dimeback. Maybe we're

538
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: talking about the possibility now with his physical build going

539
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: into a senior year, I could be an inside linebacker

540
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: or I could be a sixth defensive back. That's the

541
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Speaker 1: difference in we were talking about Oregon a decade ago.

542
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: That's the difference in a decade ago Alabama versus Alabama today.

543
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: A decade ago, who did you have roaming around? You

544
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: had Dante High Tower. I mean they were gonna have

545
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: guys like Trade de Priest coming in. Well, that's not

546
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: what their inside backers look like anymore. And there's a

547
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: very good reason for that. Offenses don't look like they

548
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: did just a decade ago. Who did Alabama and who

549
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: have they? For a long time had to build the

550
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: roster to stop. Heard our Barton and Bud the Barton

551
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: and Bud Show, they were talking about this the other day,

552
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: made a really, really good point that has been in

553
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: the process of evolving regarding Alabama and LSU. And I

554
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: think it's been sped up a little bit now with

555
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: what LSU is doing offensively. But let's get back to Alabama.

556
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: We'll circle back around to LSU in just a second.

557
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: Alabama right now, even with this commitment they said at

558
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: number thirty four, So just to give you a comparison

559
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: right now, how weird the recruiting cycle has been so

560
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: far and how much it is going to change. Alabama

561
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: is still behind SMU. Welcome to nineteen eighty four. They're

562
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: behind Wake Forest, They're behind Mississippi State, they're behind Louisville.

563
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 1: Difference of course being they only had six guys committed

564
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: their average player ratings like a ninety four, ninety four

565
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: and a half something like that. Their approach has been

566
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: one that has been a little bit more measured. We

567
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: did an interview with Nick Saban last week and we

568
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: were speaking to him about how it appears he's been

569
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: more measured. They didn't get guys in camp, They haven't

570
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: done as much spring evaluation as they normally would be

571
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Speaker 1: able to do. Some programs have still been ultra aggressive

572
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: and taking as many verbal commitments as they can get.

573
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: Alabama hasn't done that. And you're sitting here knowing full well,

574
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: we got so many kids committed right now, well over

575
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: two times as many kids committed to this point in

576
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one cycle as there were in the

577
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty cycle at this point. If you add up

578
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: total amount of kids that were committed at this point

579
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Speaker 1: last year and this point two years ago, add both

580
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: of those up, they don't equal the number of kids

581
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Speaker 1: currently committed just for this recruiting cycle. You know what's coming.

582
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Speaker 1: There is a there's a tsunami of de commitments coming.

583
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: We've been talking about that. But also what's gonna happen

584
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: is you're gonna get to the fall, guys are gonna

585
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: take visits to places that they're committed to that they've

586
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: never even visited. We've got kids just in the past

587
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: week we've had I've seen very high profile kids committing

588
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: verbally committing to programs they've never visited. That's happening a

589
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: lot year. There are kids who are committed to places

590
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: they've visited, who still have a lot of official visits

591
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: to take. We got seen your tape that is still

592
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: to come out on guys, do you really believe that

593
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: we're not gonna have a wave of decommitments And do

594
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: you really believe when the dust settles this team led

595
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: by Nick Saban, this Crimson team here, you really think

596
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: they're going to be outside the top five? I don't.

597
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: Maybe you do. I don't, But I don't want you

598
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: to look at this class in a vacuum. I also

599
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: want you to view it within the context of what

600
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: they just brought in. Remember the class they just brought in.

601
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: It was good for second nationally. I think they were

602
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: ecstatic with it. Not only did they get the top

603
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: quarterback in the country in Bryce Young, the formula that

604
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: we always talk about have the best quarterback you can

605
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: possibly have in America and have the most elite guys

606
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: that come off the edge, that attack the quarterback that

607
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: you can have in America. They got, according to the

608
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven Sports Ratings, the top quarterback in

609
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: America and the top player in America in Bryce Young,

610
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't start this year early on, it's

611
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: only a matter of time until he gets on the field.

612
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: They got him, But they also got Will Anderson, five

613
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: star edge guy, Chris Braswell, five star edge guy Drew Sanders,

614
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: five star edge guy, des moy Kennedy, who would be

615
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: a five star edge guy if I ran the ratings

616
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: council around here, Probably why I don't need to be

617
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: on the ratings council. Point being, they had a ton

618
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: of elite talent that they brought in in this last way,

619
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: this last class on the edge. So now what's the

620
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: next position? When you watch the NFL draft, what was

621
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: the position that you looked at and you said, ooh,

622
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: well there goes Rugs and there goes Judy, and who's

623
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: going to replace all these receivers? Well they are, they're

624
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: not void. They got Davonte Smith and Jaylen Waddle. Match

625
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: you, you guys, like that's still there. But then all of

626
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, you look and you got the Hall kid

627
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: from South Florida committed, and you got Brooks from South

628
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: Florida committed. I personally would venture to guess they'll probably

629
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Speaker 1: land Christian Leary. If I had to wager on that

630
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: right now, I'd lean towards Alabama for Christian Leary. So

631
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: they're loading up at that position now. It's just like

632
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: pick which cupboard you want to load up on in

633
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: any particular cycle. But they're not done defensively. And when

634
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: you look now go back to the LSU point I

635
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: was making, When you look at how many defensive guys

636
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: and how many edge guys and linebackers that they're taking

637
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: last two classes, it's very evident to me that they're

638
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: doing at an elite level what a lot of bad

639
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: programs do. But they're doing it on the fly, like

640
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: they're doing it cruising at thirty eight thousand feet. They

641
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: are remaking part of their defense, and they're doing it

642
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: for a very simple reason. This goes back to listening

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Speaker 1: to the Barton and Butt Show this last week I

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Speaker 1: believe it was, and you can find you can find

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Speaker 1: full length versions of that on our YouTube channel here.

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Speaker 1: You could also download the podcast the same place you

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Speaker 1: get the Late Kick podcast. Really good stuff, but they

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Speaker 1: were kind of observing and this is dead on the

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Speaker 1: money accurate. Even though you may call Auburn Alabama's biggest rival,

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Speaker 1: or Tennessee or whatever the case may be, there's been

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Speaker 1: one program that has consistently had their attention and garnered

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Speaker 1: immense amounts of respect from Alabama since Saban's been there,

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Speaker 1: and that's been LSU. Because it's really been the closest

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Speaker 1: to a recruit reading equal and a talent equal year

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Speaker 1: in and year out that Alabama's had in their division.

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Speaker 1: You go into every year knowing LSU is not going

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Speaker 1: to have a four and eight season. They're not roller

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Speaker 1: coasterish like Auburn's been at times. They're going to be

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Speaker 1: there every year. Even in the string of games that

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Speaker 1: Alabama was running off more times than not, those were

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Speaker 1: down to the wire a couple of overtime games, So

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were winning all of them, but they

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Speaker 1: weren't dominating that series. They were dominating in the win

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Speaker 1: loss column, they weren't dominating sixty three to ten every

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Speaker 1: time they played or anything like that. So Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: has always had his eye on LSU. What kind of

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Speaker 1: offense have you had to recruit and build to stop?

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Speaker 1: It's been two back. It's been a lot of eye

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Speaker 1: It's been power power, power, power power. It's been an

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Speaker 1: underutilization grossly at times, and mismanagement of their receiver talent

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Speaker 1: at LSU. But then all of a sudden last year,

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Speaker 1: the fireworks went off and they figured it out and

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Speaker 1: they welcomed themselves into the twenty first century. Will think

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Speaker 1: about being the Alabama defensive staff. You're looking around now

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Speaker 1: with the way that you used to build, and this

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Speaker 1: isn't a transition that just happened. I mean, listen, they

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Speaker 1: started getting inside backers like Rashaan Evans five six years ago.

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Speaker 1: But now when you look around, where is that offense

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Speaker 1: left that you have to have those kinds of inside

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Speaker 1: guys for. It's not there anymore. There's still physicality, make

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Speaker 1: no mistake about it. They'll always be physical elements to

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Speaker 1: any kind of Georgia offense, Florida offense, Auburn, LSU, any

683
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Speaker 1: kind of offense. But now that you look at what

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Speaker 1: you need at the end position, and specifically that linebacker position,

685
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Speaker 1: it's a different athlete they know it. I think there

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Speaker 1: are changes at strength. The conditioning is going to help

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Speaker 1: a lot here. But also look at the guys I

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Speaker 1: just named that they brought in this last cycle. All

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Speaker 1: of them are athletic freaks, all of them projected multiple positions.

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Speaker 1: The kid they got today, this Ian Jackson cat, it's

691
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Speaker 1: not a mistake that they're recruiting this kind of elite

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Speaker 1: talent and versatility. Think about how many guys in a

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Speaker 1: perfect world you could stack on your roster that you

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Speaker 1: think two years from now could be playing inside linebacker

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Speaker 1: or dimeback for you. They don't grow on trees. There

696
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Speaker 1: aren't many of those out there. So Alabama has the luxury,

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Speaker 1: as do about three or four of the programs out there,

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Speaker 1: to stack those kind of athletes up. But Dallas Turner

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Speaker 1: is a four star defensive end that's still out there

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Speaker 1: that I think they're in a pretty good position for.

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Williams is one out of Birmingham that's an Alabama

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Speaker 1: Auburn fight right now. There is a lot of transition

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Speaker 1: going on for Alabama defensively, and it's needed and I

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Speaker 1: think it's going to be welcomed. But I was looking

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Speaker 1: at the live chat. Colin and I were looking at

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Speaker 1: the live chat when we went on the air, and

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Speaker 1: there's always a couple of you Alabama's tailing off. They're

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Speaker 1: tailing off, not tailing off anywhere. They are going to

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Speaker 1: be right there in the playoff conversation this year, In fact,

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Speaker 1: I would love for you to give me the formula

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Speaker 1: wherein a proven what is he a five or six

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Speaker 1: time national championship coach? Has the best quarterback in America

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Speaker 1: come into town? Has all the talent I just listed

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Speaker 1: coming to town. I didn't even mention the elite high

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Speaker 1: caliber backs like Royd L Williams, Jace McClellan they got

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Speaker 1: last year. Guys, they're loaded. What formula is there? What

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Speaker 1: blueprint is there where they're not a contender other than

718
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: emotion and hope, I need something factual, Like I don't

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Speaker 1: need the same evidence that led people to pick Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame to beat them in twenty twelve, Like I need

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Speaker 1: tangible fact and logic based reasoning. How would I ever

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Speaker 1: expect them to tail off? That's not happening. You can

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Speaker 1: wish it, you can dream it. It's good to dream,

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Speaker 1: but you got to wake up at some point, go

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Speaker 1: back to the late kick inbox here. Oh really, okay,

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Speaker 1: so we got a good one here. This is from

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Speaker 1: Rod not worried at all about J. T. Daniels or

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Speaker 1: Jamie Newman. Since Georgia can't develop a quarterback, you know what,

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Speaker 1: let's address this to end the show tonight. Georgia can't

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Speaker 1: develop a quarterback. How do you know that? I guess

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Speaker 1: the evidence you would present to me is, well, they haven't.

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Speaker 1: I would argue Jake From wasn't terrible. Guys, just because

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Speaker 1: you don't go in the first round doesn't mean you're terrible.

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Speaker 1: Did you see that throw there? That wasn't bad? They

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Speaker 1: won an SEC championship with him. In twenty seventeen, they

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Speaker 1: went to overtime of a National championship game with him.

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Speaker 1: I assume you're going to tell me it was in

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Speaker 1: spite of him. Whatever. Revisionist history has a funny way

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Speaker 1: of really clouding facts in people's minds. But let's say

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Speaker 1: Jake From was terrible. Let's say all these guys have

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Speaker 1: been terrible. How do you know they can't develop a quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Who's responsible for developing? Ultimately it falls on the head coach.

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Speaker 1: But Kirby Smart's not working day to day with the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: It really comes down to your offensive staff. How many

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Speaker 1: games has new offensive coordinator Todd Monkin, Ben and Athens for?

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Speaker 1: How many practices has he been there for? I think

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Speaker 1: zero's the correct answer. So the guy that is the

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Speaker 1: most integral part of developing any quarterback you have on

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00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: your roster just got into town. How do we know

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Speaker 1: what George's program at this very point in time is

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Speaker 1: when it comes to capability of developing a quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: to go back to Alabama, cause we were talking about

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Speaker 1: him for a second going into the twenty seventeen season,

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Speaker 1: how would you have described Nick Saban's first decade at

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Speaker 1: Alabama when it came to developing quarterbacks? They were winning,

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Speaker 1: I mean they were even winning championships. How would you

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Speaker 1: have described his development of quarterbacks? John Parker Wilson, Greg McElroy,

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Speaker 1: AJ mccerron was a pretty good guy, but he went

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00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: in first or second round talent. Blake Sim's Jake Koker.

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Speaker 1: How would you have described them developing quarterbacks? You probably

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00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: would have said poor, and you probably would have said

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Speaker 1: game manager, and you probably would have said they've won

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Speaker 1: in spite of the quarterback position. Well, then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, that same program and that same head coach

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Speaker 1: went and got a quarterback with five stars next to

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Speaker 1: his name, and three years later he went in the

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Speaker 1: first round of the NFL Draft. So all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't develop quarterbacks until they did. Now you know

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Speaker 1: what they did. They went and got a stud and

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Speaker 1: then they did what they normally do. And his talent,

771
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: immense as it was, was an enough combined with the

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Speaker 1: structure they had in place to make you all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden say Bama did a great job developing him. Well,

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Speaker 1: Georgia could have not saying they will could have a

775
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: guy formerly five stars in his own right in JT.

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Speaker 1: Daniels walk in and two or three years from now

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Speaker 1: make them look like quarterback gurus, whereas in the past

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Speaker 1: you've laughed at him, or at least Rod has point is,

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Speaker 1: you can't develop quarterbacks until you develop one. It's like

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Speaker 1: you can't win You can't win a championship until you

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Speaker 1: win one. Right now, people say Kurby smart can't win

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Speaker 1: a championship, Well, like, what if he wins one this year?

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Speaker 1: Can he still not? It's like you can't do something

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Speaker 1: until you do it. I know that sounds common sense,

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Speaker 1: school budget reality. By the way, got a lot of

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Speaker 1: you watching to night. We appreciate that we have had

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Speaker 1: minutes tonight. That's about the length of time that we

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