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Speaker 1: Brute force. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Webb, Jack Murphy and the rest of the boys

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Speaker 1: being Scato, Jason Delgado, what's going on in episode two?

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Speaker 1: N I know man one away from the Big three double?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and when it happens, I've got um, I've

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Speaker 1: got some original music done, which I just let you hear,

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Speaker 1: very top gun esque, very patriotic, as you were saying, nice,

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Speaker 1: I listen, I just heard it. I'm telling I'm telling

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Speaker 1: everyone out there in podcast land listen up, guys. This

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Speaker 1: The first thing I wanted to say, actually is that

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Speaker 1: the guys who backed the Big Mountain Heroes documentary, thanks

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Speaker 1: for doing it. And I could personally say that we

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Speaker 1: the different tiers of Create Club and now sending out

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Speaker 1: the people who have helped back Big Mountain Heroes on Kickstarter. Uh,

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Speaker 1: He's taking care of everything. So if those guys ever

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Speaker 1: anybody who had those rewards coming Um and Brandon and

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Speaker 1: the rest of the crewer in the UK for the

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Speaker 1: remembrance rumble where you were last. Yeah, man, and I

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Speaker 1: know what they're going through. Man, it's it's it's nerve

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Speaker 1: crowd cheers their songs and all that. But our boys

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Speaker 1: super awesome host man, way energetic and just keep in

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Speaker 1: show support for our guys, right absolutely. Man, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm sure that's my fault somewhere. All good man.

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Speaker 1: So joining us is Green Beret writer for soft Rep

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Speaker 1: Derek Gannon, who you can follow on Twitter at Derek

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Speaker 1: Gannon seem six. Uh Man, there's a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff to get into. Uh you know, I see this

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Speaker 1: petition that you did now is eighty eight thousand signatures,

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Speaker 1: So I think we'll get into that later. But the

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Speaker 1: first thing is that you really broke the story on

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Speaker 1: the Green Beret is killed in Niger and and what

432
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Speaker 1: really went down before the rest of the mainstream media,

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Speaker 1: and I should say has kind of been a victim

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Speaker 1: of when we had the paywall of not having his

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Speaker 1: episodes for everyone to here. So this is the first

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Speaker 1: time in a while we're doing like a full episode

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Speaker 1: with Derek Um. So good to have you on here, man,

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Speaker 1: and thanks, thank for having and well deserved Derek, because

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Speaker 1: I love your writing, bro. Your writing is like no, Bro,

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Speaker 1: it's super informative. Like when I read your ship, it's

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Speaker 1: really really, really informative, man, Like I learned a lot

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Speaker 1: from your writing. Well that ship. God damn well, thanks man,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Stop blushing, Come on, cut it out.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm a little blushing on that one thing.

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Speaker 1: Are you naked? I know, I know you're right. I

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Speaker 1: know you're right naked and stuff, and you're like the

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Speaker 1: office chair. So are you naked right now? I have well,

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Speaker 1: I put I don't like sweating in a leather seat,

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Speaker 1: so I put on some underwear. I don't like. It's

450
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Speaker 1: like that Alex. I like, but I mentioned where it's

451
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Speaker 1: like I didn't become an internet writer to wear it

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Speaker 1: paying So before we get into the details, I didn't. Actually,

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Speaker 1: he's crazy. I didn't get the write anywhere. Dude. Before

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Speaker 1: we get into the details of of the Africa situation,

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Speaker 1: I kind of I've heard I've heard stories from when

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Speaker 1: you broke that story that I want to say. D

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Speaker 1: O J came to the table and offered you guys

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Speaker 1: press credits. No, who's saying that? I who said that?

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Speaker 1: Uh No, it wasn't Department of Defense or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: not department. It was actually no one. The people that

461
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Speaker 1: were approaching, at least me and the team at soft

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Speaker 1: report who the who the first? Who the hell are you?

463
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Speaker 1: And second? How did you get this information? And then

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Speaker 1: my favorite that is, once we told him the first

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Speaker 1: and second orders, the third one was do you hate

466
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Speaker 1: the army? That was the most amazing question. Who the hell? Uh? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Actually was a public affairs officer. Um, he's a good

468
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Speaker 1: guy though he just I think I think software has

469
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Speaker 1: been as blindsided special Operations Command on a few things. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then the jare thing I'm not talking ship well

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit. Well the articles in and the

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Speaker 1: teamwork that we did with breaking then jar story kind

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Speaker 1: of untimately, Um, they couldn't they couldn't push this into

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Speaker 1: the whole gunnut blogger realm anymore. We kind of kind

475
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Speaker 1: of punched that one in the face, and even the

476
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Speaker 1: mainstream media started picking up on a lot of the

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Speaker 1: reporting that we were doing over at softwarep SO. I

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Speaker 1: think the I think the Public Affairs officers and Special

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Speaker 1: Operations Command and the and other commands are kind of

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Speaker 1: they're like, oh shit, Uh, there's a bunch of veterans,

481
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Speaker 1: soft veterans that actually understand the operations, uh, mission sets

482
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Speaker 1: and capabilities. And now they're they're they're freaking journalists. Now

483
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Speaker 1: we're writing about And I think that and and still

484
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Speaker 1: have active, retired and very actively active community members that

485
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: that that are that that kind of guests talked to us.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that they're ratting anything. They're not ratting

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Speaker 1: where they're talking to us. The interesting thing is that

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Speaker 1: I think I believe the community, uh the community special

489
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Speaker 1: operations better in the active duty community is pretty fickle.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to a soft rep one story. They

491
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Speaker 1: could absolutely love you for a couple of days, and

492
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: then you you drop another one about you know, two

493
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Speaker 1: Navy seals possibly the death, they hate you again. Yeah,

494
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Speaker 1: and we'll get into that in a little bit. Yeah,

495
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Speaker 1: And I do want to get into that story, um,

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Speaker 1: with the Green Beret is killed in Niger. One of

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Speaker 1: the interesting things, um that I thought was the mainstream media,

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Speaker 1: and actually Jason follows a lot more mainstream media than

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Speaker 1: I do. But I think you can back me up

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Speaker 1: and this you can correct me if I'm wrong. They

501
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: most ignored that entire story until Trump spoke to one

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Speaker 1: of the mothers or widows, right, and then that became

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Speaker 1: the big story over why these Green Berets were actually

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Speaker 1: killed that you know, isn't that messed up? Because he

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Speaker 1: was criticized on how he offered his condolences to the

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Speaker 1: widow and what's the more important story killed or how

507
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: Trump spoke to a widow exactly? And then it's just

508
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Speaker 1: the freaking liberal media and that's that's how they're going

509
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Speaker 1: to spin every freaking story, you know, and they kind

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Speaker 1: of overshine there the reality of the situation. The there

511
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Speaker 1: is no middle ground anywhere in politics or in the media.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm willing to admit that even software

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Speaker 1: reporting on the incident was a holistically ignored by the

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Speaker 1: mainstream to include the Pentagon Press Press Corps, uh, mainly

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Speaker 1: because the Pentagon attention to independent journalism. Plus they are

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Speaker 1: already set up a cover your ass type of scenario

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Speaker 1: that we were desperately trying to get ahead of. But

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Speaker 1: the problem is is as soon the problem is the

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00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: problem is as soon as Americans realize that there was Americans,

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Speaker 1: American soldiers in Africa in a place they can't they

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00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: don't even know where it is on the map, and alone,

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00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: how they can pronounce it. You don't know how a clue. Guys,

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00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: how many people I've told it's Niger not Nigeria. You

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Speaker 1: can say either right or it's Niger. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: throw the French on it, because you know it's it's

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Speaker 1: the French Africa, so Niger. You know it's like but

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00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: I even was like posting up. I wrote an outfit

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00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: about some stuff, you know, like the the NFL protests

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Speaker 1: that the Vice President and the White House decided to

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Speaker 1: spend two or two thousand dollars on at the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That was day six of the White House, completely ignoring

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Speaker 1: the fact that four Special Operations soldiers and killed, with

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Speaker 1: one of them missing for two hours or for two

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Speaker 1: days by missing a chick. Instead, they went for the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And my point was, it's now day six, is now

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Speaker 1: day three, it's now day two, it's now day one,

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Speaker 1: it's now day you know all these there's no word

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Speaker 1: from the White House. And as soon as the story caught,

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00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, gotten that we've been in Africa

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00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: for two decades and the majority of the build up

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Speaker 1: came from Alabama, administration completely went after the Trump administration,

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Speaker 1: and I did as well. I found it very interesting

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Speaker 1: at the day that that La David Johnson's body was

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Speaker 1: actually found, Trump and a a Air Force veteran, Lindsay Graham,

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Speaker 1: went to go play thirty six rounds of golf and

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00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: instead of doing anything. Now, now, the way you handled it, guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't give a ship what you say. It was

548
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: absolute garbage. It was the blame game. But what the

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00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: media did was turned it into a political fucking football,

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00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: politicized veterans and then inadvertently tried to politicize uh, the

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Speaker 1: Special Forces, Green Beret community and Green Beret Team itself

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00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: as some untrained, you know, infantile, you know, babe left

553
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: out in the woods with no support and therefore you

554
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: know this, this is this Trump's fault. I have no

555
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: clue how people get to that but the mainstream media

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00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: hasn't been watching Africa at all, and definitely hasn't been

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00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: watching US involvement in military involvement in Africa. So when

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Speaker 1: they are presented with this, this amazing story like Nagier,

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Speaker 1: where you have fifty plus I isis isis in the

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Speaker 1: Greater is a Greater Sahara, this new terrorist organization UH

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Speaker 1: basically lay in waste to an SF team in their

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Speaker 1: thirty indigenous host nation forces. The only thing that they

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Speaker 1: know about is to grasp at the political political football straws,

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Speaker 1: which is veterans and Donald Trump my opinion. See, that's

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Speaker 1: all we are. We're all opinion eated here. But go on,

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Speaker 1: I want to hear it. No, that's my opinion. So

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Speaker 1: I think the mainstream media. I think the mainstream media

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Speaker 1: without any knowledge whatsoever of US operations outside of the

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Speaker 1: two named named places that most Americans have completely ignored

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Speaker 1: for sixteen years, Iraq and Afghanistan, it blows their minds.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got guys like Nick Hurs, who spent

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Speaker 1: his life creating a shadowy world of Special Forces basically

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Speaker 1: given people Columbia neckties. Now, if you don't want to

574
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Speaker 1: Columbia necktie is It's basically you walk up behind someone,

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Speaker 1: cut their throat from ear to ear, and you pull

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Speaker 1: their tongue out slot. That's called a Columbia necktie. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know we're not doing that. And there really isn't

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Speaker 1: a shadow war there. It's just it's just it's Africa,

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Speaker 1: and most first worlders don't really pay attention to a

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Speaker 1: world that they still consider people running around in loincloths

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Speaker 1: and speaking a different language. Do they look at Africa.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into some details, um, and from what I know,

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Speaker 1: and you can fill in, you know, help me out here,

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Speaker 1: because I was just as ignorant as I guess, you know,

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Speaker 1: the right the rest of the population. So from what

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Speaker 1: I understand is, once Obama defunded the war on terrorist

587
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Speaker 1: should I say back in, he didn't really take that

588
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Speaker 1: budget and reinserted into our economy. He actually just iftated

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Speaker 1: from Afghanistan to Africa. And from there we start establishing,

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Speaker 1: you know, special forces relationship with all of uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: the other forces in Africa, putting them together. And from

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Speaker 1: what I understand it, it's been going on this two

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Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen that special opera or special forces have

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Speaker 1: been over their training up the Chadanians, and I need

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Speaker 1: the forces of Niger and other obviously other um Sub

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Speaker 1: Saharan or Greater Saharan forces. So you know, correct me

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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, am I somewhere in the area of

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Speaker 1: the ballpark. Let's get ready to ride. You've got a

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00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: good grip a trip, Let's do it. The United States

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00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: screen berets have been in the continent and in countries

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Speaker 1: of Africa since nineteen sixty seven. The United States has

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Speaker 1: had Special Forces in Africa since nineteen active Special Forces

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Speaker 1: joint operations in Africa since nineteen seventies seven, So we've

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Speaker 1: been there for a very very very long time. Now,

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Speaker 1: Who the who the hell besides someone like me who

606
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: thinks who thinks reading books on Kindle is more important

607
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Speaker 1: than actually owning them? Is that in the early eighties,

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Speaker 1: Africa and continent, especially West Africa and UH portions of

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Speaker 1: the North portion UH, we're being wholesale parsed out by

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Speaker 1: the Big Five because Africa used to be owned by

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Speaker 1: the French, the English, the Americans, the Germans, everybody kind

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00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: of just peeled off what they wanted from the continent

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Speaker 1: of Africa. And of course, when after World War two

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Speaker 1: that collapsed. So let's fast forward to at least the

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Speaker 1: twentieth century. Let's get into there. So in the eighties

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Speaker 1: and nineties, there was a lot of Special Operations activities

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Speaker 1: going on in Africa, some of them were clandestine proxies. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of huge Soviet influence in in

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Speaker 1: Africa back in early in during the Cold War, specifically

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Speaker 1: in Angola, Sudan before it was split. A lot of

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Speaker 1: these places still harbor and maintain a lot of working

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Speaker 1: relationships with both China and Russia, and those countries brought

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Speaker 1: in the air special operations were not the only country

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Speaker 1: that has special operations and started to rebuild the economy.

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Speaker 1: Close to the nineties. Uh, you know, early nineties we

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Speaker 1: had Desit Storm one, so everybody started focusing on the

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Speaker 1: Middle East and everyone and almost all countries really actually

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the fact that nobody was really paying attention to Africa.

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Speaker 1: So let's fast forward again into the two into the

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Speaker 1: early two thousands, and you had mentioned ten. The third

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Speaker 1: Special Forces Group that that's was. This was the group

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Speaker 1: of the group that the special these Green Berets were

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Speaker 1: assigned to in the Jair Third Special Forces Groups area

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Speaker 1: of operations or where they work at has always been

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Speaker 1: sub Sahara Africa. It's always been West Africa, chad Uh,

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Speaker 1: the d r C which is the Democratic, the the

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Speaker 1: Congo Uh, you know, Tanzani, all these other places. It's

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Speaker 1: stays been sparsed out. So let's get into so early

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Speaker 1: two thousand one. We all know that nine eleven, what

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Speaker 1: happened in nine eleven, Africa was still going on. There

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Speaker 1: was a lot of genocidal issues, a lot of tribal

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Speaker 1: and clan conflicts, but it really wasn't organized terrorism as

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Speaker 1: of yet. So everyone started focusing on the Authorized Use

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Speaker 1: of Military Force on Terrorists Organizations. That was written eighteen

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Speaker 1: September two thousand one, a couple of days, literally, a

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Speaker 1: couple of days after No eleven, the President Bush put

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Speaker 1: this into into power, which gave it. It gave the

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Speaker 1: United States the Patriot Act and a blanket global war

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Speaker 1: on terror, on active terrorists organizations known as al Qaeda.

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Speaker 1: This kicked us off into the Iran excuse, not the

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Speaker 1: Iran thing that's later, that's in a couple of years,

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Speaker 1: the Iraq War and Afghanistan. After Afghanistan's October seventh was

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Speaker 1: America's response to No. Eleven Fifth Special Forces Group Green

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Speaker 1: Berets going to Afghanistan. Seven of those teams having no

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Speaker 1: little to no combat experience in the modern in the

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Speaker 1: modern world, took over the country in eight weeks. So

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Speaker 1: let's focus on Afghanistan. Afghanistan then became Operation Enduring Freedom, right,

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Speaker 1: and this is a part of the Global War on

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Speaker 1: Terror author authorized by the a u MM In we've

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Speaker 1: been at war for a while and Afghanistan was grinding

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Speaker 1: down in the United States governmental process, along with the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media, has holistically pushed Afghanistan and Iraq out of

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Speaker 1: out of the mainstream media and away from American eyes.

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Speaker 1: And that war still continues. But the biggest thing that

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Speaker 1: Obama administration wanted to do on their second run was

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Speaker 1: to get us out of Afghanistan and both wars. Actually

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Speaker 1: so in the official announcement came in in excuse me,

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Speaker 1: the the backup official announce from of that of that

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Speaker 1: draw down came. If you guys remember by twenties, what

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Speaker 1: what the plan was was, they were going to shut

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Speaker 1: down the the Operation and Enduring Freedom battle areas, right,

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Speaker 1: they were now going to actually turn it into somewhat

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Speaker 1: of like what I like to call a nineteen that

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Speaker 1: the reimagining of the hearts and minds when they start

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Speaker 1: ending in uh support the town to train. Are you

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Speaker 1: guys good? Yeah? Come on, man about me sorright? So

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Speaker 1: that ship was going down. So in o e F,

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Speaker 1: the funding and the troop count and o EF needed

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Speaker 1: to go somewhere. And two thousand seven two thousand eight,

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Speaker 1: al Shabab and Islamic states started getting really hot and

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Speaker 1: heavy in Africa, especially Horn of Africa and North Africa

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Speaker 1: with the Libya, bit and Ghazi and Serte. So there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of movement, a lot of these guys

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan and Iraq that fought the Americans during the

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Speaker 1: Operation Iraqi Freedom in operation and during Freedom we're going home.

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Speaker 1: They're going back to Somalia, Etia, Tanzania, you get the point, Chad,

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Speaker 1: Niger and Nigeria, all these other places and starting up

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Speaker 1: their own home grown terrorist organization. So the Special Operations

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Speaker 1: community had to shift and they needed the money too.

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Speaker 1: So when they shut down o e F Afghanistan, they

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Speaker 1: all they did was brief flag Operation Enduring Freedom Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: to operation and then during Freedom trans Sahara, So they

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Speaker 1: just basically moved the Global War on Terror under the

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Speaker 1: a u m F that was signed eighteen eighteen September

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Speaker 1: two thousand one, they added the Islamic State to it.

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Speaker 1: They didn't attend it, they just added the Islamic State

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Speaker 1: to it because the a U m F is basically

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Speaker 1: was for the Taliban and al Qaida. And then they

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Speaker 1: transferred that funds, the troop count and equipment count to

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Speaker 1: mainly Horn of Africa, East Africa to include Chad, and

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Speaker 1: then the special forces that were their tenth Group took

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Speaker 1: over for Third Group because Third Group owned Afghanistan exclusively.

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Speaker 1: So once Afghanistan shut down and they transferred their mom

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Speaker 1: the Third Group went back to take over Africa, their

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Speaker 1: original area of responsibility away from tenth Group that was

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Speaker 1: that was more within one ran from Derek and the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media has covered Africa in how many years? Mab

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Speaker 1: to do this on headline news and they just kept

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Speaker 1: cutting like tell me how much you don't like Trump.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna do Yeah, dude, you're taking

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Speaker 1: me to school right now. Bro, you are taking me

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Speaker 1: to school right now. And I love it. No, I do.

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Speaker 1: We So we're caught up now. So this this is

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Speaker 1: so now we're caught up. So now you guys know,

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Speaker 1: if if you've read any of my work, yes, I

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Speaker 1: jam I moved away from West Africa because Moktar Bell

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Speaker 1: mocktr is actually Ian, if you remember, is the reason

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Speaker 1: why I actually found soft Reap was hunting this guy

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Speaker 1: and I was writing up. Really, if you go back, Jason,

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Speaker 1: you'll realize that my writing has progressed. I used to

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Speaker 1: write Intel briefings, but I was doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: the research on mocked Our Bell mock Tar, which we

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Speaker 1: can get into later when we when we cut a

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Speaker 1: deep dive the the ambush, and I focus a lot

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Speaker 1: on West Africa and now kind of in Makreb terror networks.

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Speaker 1: But then Al Shabab showed up in two thousand seven

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Speaker 1: and just went to it new gucci terrorist organization, very young,

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Speaker 1: very young group, very violent, very ultra violent, hates these

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Speaker 1: Blambic state and it's African African Caliphate nationalists, centrists. They're

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Speaker 1: all Stileafists, which is a you know, that apocalyptic view

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Speaker 1: of Sharia law like radical Islamic you know, religion. So

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Speaker 1: you know that money that the Obama administration has had

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Speaker 1: a lotted started putting in drone bases in in Niama,

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Speaker 1: for example, Nager, the capital of Niger, for example, UH, Morocco, Algeria, Beni,

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Speaker 1: Chad became the central point of Africa, and Chad is

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Speaker 1: actually one of our fund terrorism terror you know, counter

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Speaker 1: terrorisms UH supporters and allies in the African country, the

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Speaker 1: continent of Africa, so that'd be kind of came the

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Speaker 1: focal point for the US in UK and French special

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Speaker 1: operations was was Agadez and and in Jamina and Chad

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Speaker 1: where the French have been running in operation since actually

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Speaker 1: ason called Operation Barkhani, which was designed to the French

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Speaker 1: Foreign Legion, French Special Forces along with the Algerian UH.

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Speaker 1: I want I'm gonna say g RS, but it doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean the g RS that we know Algerian g RS

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Speaker 1: and Intel agencies to push out about out of the hell,

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Speaker 1: the sa hell or the or the Saharan desert, the

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Speaker 1: sub Saharan desert. Step who's stt e P. Who's that

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Speaker 1: STEP International? Oh Um, they're an independent STEP internationals, an

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Speaker 1: independent UH threat mitigation kind of like think tank. You

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Speaker 1: gotta pay for their their analysis. But there's there's there's

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Speaker 1: spot on. I think that's I think that's what you're

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Speaker 1: talking yea. So from what I understand, it was the

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say Nigerians and how do you

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Speaker 1: do what do you call that? The people of niger

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Speaker 1: Nigerian Nigerians, not Nigerians needs ca Arians. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to make sure, like I don't want to throw

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Speaker 1: in what you know, did you see South Park? Did

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Speaker 1: you guys see South Park the other night though? Because

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Speaker 1: they they they talked about the whole Nigerian thing, and

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00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: they threw in like you know, what could sound like

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Speaker 1: a racial slur, like they're they're playing on that whole thing.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was actually very honestly, that's that's just

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Speaker 1: the liberal media trying to downplay the situation. But come on, dude,

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Speaker 1: I consider South Park more right leaning than anything. You're right,

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Speaker 1: they get they let everybody get it. They don't give that,

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Speaker 1: let everybody get They're an equal opportunity. I don't even

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Speaker 1: think they have a political leaning. So the Chadanians and

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Speaker 1: the Nigerians they actually worked and joint ambush and then

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Speaker 1: joint for joint forces to actually go after some of

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Speaker 1: the heads of BOLCA Haram, right am? I correct? Hell yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's break into that. Yeah, everything everybody remembers to

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Speaker 1: bring back our Girls hashtag campaign that failed, miserable that

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Speaker 1: the Obama ministry. Well, the firstly Michelle Obama started right.

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Speaker 1: She held up the science and bring back our girls.

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Speaker 1: And that's in reference to the three hundred uh females. Now,

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Speaker 1: now we're talking about Nigeria, not for their Nigeria around

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Speaker 1: the Mari, the Mari Durgo area and very a very

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Speaker 1: Fulani heavy northern Nigeria where the majority of the ethnic

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Speaker 1: ethnic Muslims and ethnic Sulani which is a clan, a

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Speaker 1: nomadic clan kind of reside. So in you know, my

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Speaker 1: my main man who Ian loves when I say this

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Speaker 1: dude's name because I say it wrong every time Abul

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Speaker 1: Baker Chico's name I give you know you always say

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Speaker 1: we always give you ship. They always say Boco Raham

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Speaker 1: instead of Boko Haram. It's like harem, right, I always

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Speaker 1: say it like Boco Harem. That it's not it's Haram

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Speaker 1: is Raham? Oh do I how do I say? Well,

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Speaker 1: you the guy Abu Baker and his band of mary

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Speaker 1: Men in Northern Nigeria and you know kidnapped three hundred

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Speaker 1: girls and moved them up to northern Nigeria to kind

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Speaker 1: of sell them human trafficking. Because Abel Baker Chicao is

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Speaker 1: not a smart guy. Uh, he's learning from the the

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Speaker 1: Arab influence, the Arabic influenced jihadists that were selling humans,

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Speaker 1: selling women and children, uh for money for their causes.

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Speaker 1: You know, gal Molly. Gal Molly, which is a city

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Speaker 1: of town in southern Molly, which is a is a

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Speaker 1: is a as a hub of the black market. Hub

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Speaker 1: for it's a. It's a. It's a conduit for elicit

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Speaker 1: elicit drugs, human trafficking, men, weapon and equipment to go

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Speaker 1: to Europe and uh and then on the back end

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Speaker 1: go back even towards India. It's it's a. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's always Putten a major stop on the Silk Road,

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Speaker 1: the trade route. It's like Chinatown in New York. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure someone's getting some someone selling somebody in Trying

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Speaker 1: Town in New York. You could get it out here.

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Speaker 1: So what's cool about it's what's cool about what the

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Speaker 1: chat Aans did was the chat Aans formed a joint

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Speaker 1: UH multi nash African National U unit if you will,

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Speaker 1: like like an African Rainbow six. I know, I'm gone,

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Speaker 1: it made fun up for saying that, but it's kind

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Speaker 1: of technically this what it what it was with Chad,

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Speaker 1: the U S Special Forces trained chat A and troops

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Speaker 1: leading away. But what was cool about it is that

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Speaker 1: there's a friend of soft reps, a friend of Jack's,

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Speaker 1: also a well known UH godfather or legend in the

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Speaker 1: private military, you know world, even Barlow from South Africa,

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Speaker 1: the Chaday in the day in government I believe it

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Speaker 1: was the Chadan or actually the Nigerian government approached his

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Speaker 1: group to send up you know some I hate saying this,

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Speaker 1: some private military folks. People are going to use the

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Speaker 1: M word with that. And he sent up a bunch

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Speaker 1: of UH, you know, train the trainer type of guy,

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Speaker 1: some some subject matter experts that he had run in

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Speaker 1: with his group and and and I think I think

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Speaker 1: it was two weeks. I even reported on it. Two weeks.

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Speaker 1: They pushed Bulker Haram so far deep into the end

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Speaker 1: of the uh Sebo into the forest region that they

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Speaker 1: found they found their main UH sounds like we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Saturday Morning cartoons. They found their found bolker Ron's

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Speaker 1: honeycomb hideout and blew the ship out of it and

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Speaker 1: sent Abu Baker his second in command and whatever was

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Speaker 1: left in Boca Ram into Nigair. So they took off

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Speaker 1: into the Jair. So they weren't they were originally into Nigier.

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Speaker 1: They were pushed into Nigier. They tried to take they

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Speaker 1: try to make a stronghold in I think that the

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Speaker 1: the Lake Chad Basin right around that area. That's that's

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Speaker 1: what their stronghold. It was their stronghold, and then they

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Speaker 1: got the crap beat out of them and pushed into Niger.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, that's where. Okay, that's what that's clarified, all right. Cool.

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Speaker 1: So that's so the Nigerian military before receiving a training

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Speaker 1: in in the in the Train Advised CIS mission set

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Speaker 1: from you know Special fort from the Green Berets, they

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Speaker 1: weren't really set up to watch or are actively counter

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Speaker 1: a lot of these you know Islamic State UH forces

846
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Speaker 1: moving through Nager is massive, by the way, it's like

847
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: a huge state. But they didn't have those forces to

848
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: deal with the actual All they did was observing the

849
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: that's basically what they did. So the Americans use their

850
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: use there. Now there's no armed drones in nager That

851
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: is a Nigerian government Status of Forces agreement. That is why,

852
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: uh they didn't have any direct air support via a reaper.

853
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: They only had predators. So these anything that's unarmed I

854
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: always called preds or predators. Reapers are the ones with

855
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: the health fires and that's another reason. Another another one

856
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: of the major mitigating factors is is why the French

857
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: Mirages didn't drop bombs during the ambush, one of which

858
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,720
Speaker 1: is they didn't have authorization from them to Zarian government

859
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 1: to do kinetic strikes into the ambush was so massive

860
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: in fluid they couldn't tell friends from foe, so you know,

861
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: they aired on the side of caution and did a

862
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: low level flyover kind of like what we saw in

863
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: thirteen hours where the UH you know, the CIA operators like,

864
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: do a low level fuck you fly over and we'll

865
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: make these guys think twice. That's literally what they did

866
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: with the Mirages and what got the French pumas in

867
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: to get the Americans out. So Nagere wasn't set up

868
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: tactically or militarily to deal with Bulka haram Uh and

869
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: Sardine a U. And now this new slice element, the

870
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: Islamic State in the greatest Sahara, and to include the

871
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: Islamic State in Libya, because if you look at if

872
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: you look at the map after you guys listen to

873
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: the show or pull it up on your computer right now,

874
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: you'll notice that nager is a giant, porous country and

875
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: it's a it's every anybody you can think of, to

876
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 1: include the Fulani nomadic tribes still utilized nineteen eighteen seven

877
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: teenth century, you know, trade routes to move through that

878
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: country unimpeded. They don't have the resources and or menat

879
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: or equipment to even mark the borders efficiently. They don't

880
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: even really know. The northern part of Nigeria is still

881
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: uncharted and it's such an austere place. They needed they

882
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 1: needed that, they needed a larger, you know, big brother

883
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: international friend to help them out, and they got that

884
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: by way of the United States. And what the United

885
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: States did was instead of sending a bunch of Americans over,

886
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: they inflated the They inflated their budgetary requirements and training

887
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: requirements into the African Union and allowed this this thing

888
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: to start happening in the African Union where they say

889
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: African problem African problems, African solutions for African problems, because

890
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: they wanted to put an African face on that. And

891
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: that came from Centcom and so calm that to kind

892
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: of grant back having a bunch of American special forces

893
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: doing the work instead of why don't you have them

894
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: trained vis a cysts and build a larger force. So

895
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: what they did was they brought Chad in to sit

896
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: on the north the northeastern portion of Nigerian borders that

897
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: that borders that that borders Nigeria and Chad in the

898
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: Lake Chad Basin. And their job was basically too to

899
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: disrupt en route and eventually destroy Boca Haram's supply routes,

900
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: training camps and eventually their their their effectiveness. Uh. And

901
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: they came in and they did that and they've been

902
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: holding those that border the north northeastern border of Niger

903
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: uh since what was team effectively correct? Effectively, I expect

904
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: as effective as fucked. You have to understand it. The

905
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: Chaddan military is has received almost direct special operations training,

906
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: special operations and conventional military army or military training from

907
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: the United States since its inception. The Chad model of

908
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: counter and surgency counter terrorism is a successful one, which

909
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: leads me down the path of why the why the

910
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: hell is that on a travel ban? And that's what

911
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: I want to fast forward to. You just fucking nailed it.

912
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: Why in God's name did we put a travel ban

913
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: on Chad if they are actively fighting Bulka Haram? And

914
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: I s gs, that is an amazing question. It baffles me.

915
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: And I'm by no means a a Oxford or Columbia

916
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: educated expert in African you know, regions or territories or

917
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: or anything else. But if you think you than I

918
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: talked to the guys I know in my head a

919
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: lot and like, yeah, I totally get that. And then

920
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, I go home and google what the hell

921
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: they're talking about and then Urban Dictionary so I can

922
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: write it to people that can so they can read it.

923
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: But if you talk to Professor Scotty and Professor Paul

924
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: Williams wrote an amazing book, uh War in Conflict in

925
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: Africa that's really tracked. And I talked to him and

926
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, so, what do you think of this this

927
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 1: Chad travel band? And he just seems like it baffles me.

928
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: That is ridiculous. So Jason, this is for you. Through

929
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: a couple of my good friends, I was able to

930
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 1: get ahold of the State Department spokesperson, UH spokesperson head there. Now,

931
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: who's the current UH public public spokesperson for the State Department.

932
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: And I asked her the same question. And here's the

933
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: Here's how I asked her, is that she told she

934
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: gave me the canned answer, which is UH first of

935
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: the year. Around was April he the Trump administration issued

936
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: their first ninety day travel band. It left out the

937
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: ninety days. They just said, oh, it's a it's a

938
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: Muslim band because technically, if you think about it as

939
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: you think, technically, it is a Muslim it is the

940
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: most of the majority of the travel band. It does

941
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: it does resulte on mostly majority Muslim country. Yeah, mainstream

942
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: media with the twist of words, Donald Trump has now

943
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: becoming lomophobic. I'm a political I'm my opinion on that.

944
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: I'm just that that's not part of the point. So

945
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: what she was telling me was that the Trump administration

946
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: had put these several of these countries on ninety day

947
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: notice that they needed to correct the way that today

948
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: that they biometrically and paperwork wise track into internally displaced

949
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: persons or actually externally displaced refugees. They are either leaving

950
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: their country and traveling throughout it. They wanted they wanted

951
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: to have assurances that that places like goddamn South Sudan

952
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: and Sudan aren't having massive leaks of potential radicalized folks,

953
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: which is otherwise, Yeah, which is a legitimate concern because

954
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: let's just be honest, a lot of these guys getting

955
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: in these visas a proof of these visas. I mean,

956
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: they're they're in their mid twenties and there's nothing on

957
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: paper about them prior to them showing up to the

958
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: embassies of the consulates for there. So I mean, uh so,

959
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: let's fast forward to what's the situation now on hand

960
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: with the Danian forces pulling away from the borders. I

961
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: got a question. I got a question for you within that,

962
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: so you can go on and explain this to me.

963
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 1: But knowing the inevitable outcome, Derek, do you think the

964
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: Jerdanians are actually just allowing I. S. G. S. Or

965
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: Bokharram to come in, because that's obviously inevitable to come

966
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: in and eventually just create some sort of Islamic state

967
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: like we had in Rocco or mussul in the Toredanian

968
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: basin or you know where this conflict took place in Tonga,

969
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: Tonga mhm three with you, I think, but I think,

970
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: I think, Okay, So I believe that Chad pulled the

971
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: troops out of a northeast nager. Specifically, I mean the

972
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: day after they were put on the indefinite travel band.

973
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: Lift is the day after that they gave out blanket orders.

974
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: They were pulling our troops. We're pulling our troops from

975
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: the jar. We're pulling our troops from the border, and

976
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: we're bringing them back to Chad. Even the Chad's Prime Minister,

977
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: Chad's secretary to the United Nations Security Council, and the

978
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: overall I don't know what you call. I'm assuming he's

979
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 1: a president cabin are furious. They have no idea why

980
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: they're on the travel ban, so they pulled their troops, Like,

981
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: why are we going to support a U, n U,

982
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: n UK, French and US backed counterinsurgency operation when the

983
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: United States just put us on an indefinite travel ban

984
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: because along with six other countries, I'm not count of

985
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: North Korea because North Korea doesn't happen states. That's a

986
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: stupid travel ban. It's a dumb travel band either all

987
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: in with seven other states, that seven other countries within

988
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: Africa that are actively dealing with an active counter terrorism

989
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: and terrorism issue with the radical Islamic terrorists. It even happened.

990
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Iraq actually was on that travel ban as well, which

991
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: I think, but they pulled them because they wouldn't reissue

992
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: visas to the contractors in the country. So you know

993
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: how you're going to continue to make those millions without

994
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: those visas, so they had to pull them off. You

995
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean, so your question isn't

996
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: that far off you think about it. Chad's pissed at

997
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: the United States, Chad, and this is this is another thing.

998
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: This is what Ms Naur Mrs Nahur was explained to me.

999
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: Chad is on the indefinite travel band list because it

1000
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: was given ninety days to correct its to correct its

1001
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: paperwork trails on these folks and it didn't do it.

1002
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't doing it. But there's another still going on

1003
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: and it deals with x On and it deals with

1004
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: Rex Taylorson. What about it? Now, let me give you

1005
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: a background on this. Exxon Mobile owes the nation of

1006
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: Chad seven eighteen billion dollars with a b that is

1007
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: eight times eight to twelve times larger than the nation

1008
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: of Chad's gross national product. That that Exxon owes them

1009
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: and back unpaid royalties. It also owes them a hundred

1010
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: something to two hundred million dollars on contract contract withdrawals

1011
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: or mitigation, and the Chadian government blast Actually, right before

1012
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: Mr Tillerson took over for the Secretary of State, um

1013
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 1: ceased all of Exxon's oil refinering production and crude oil

1014
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: movement to the terminals in their country until they paid

1015
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: them damn near close to a trillion dollars and back

1016
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 1: unpaid royalties. Now Tillerson goes as Secretary of State, Exxon

1017
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: and the government of Chad go into private and so

1018
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: whatever it's and then something is handled out of court.

1019
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: Six months later, Chad gets up and ends up on

1020
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: the band list, and Sudan gets a path. And here's

1021
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: where it's great, because Sudan during this whole time there,

1022
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: during this even during this ninety day period, was actively

1023
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: importing and purchasing weapons, equipment and material from North Korea

1024
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: through a Chinese trade company. But they were given them.

1025
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: Dan got a pass and you don't want to know

1026
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: why they got a pass because of South, because of

1027
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: salvok Here's commitment to the United States and clearing the

1028
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: southern portion of the Upper Now region of South Sudan

1029
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: where percent of their oil reserves are sitting. Right now,

1030
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: Sudan through rumors promise the United States that they would

1031
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: sever ties with Russia allow the United States to get

1032
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: come back into the oil the oil fields of Sudan

1033
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: in a bigger footprint now. Exxon and U S Oil

1034
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: have been in Sudan since the eighties and I that

1035
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: is a massive thing. That is that isn't that is

1036
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: a rumor mill opinion to which Mrs Nawart said that,

1037
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, secretary of Tisan had already left the company

1038
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: had no involvement whatsoever in the African goings on of

1039
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: the oil company, which surprises me because if you're the

1040
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: chief executive officer of Exxon Mobile, wouldn't you not know

1041
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: about it like off the top of your head. But

1042
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: when you have like a staff and be like, hey,

1043
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: this is what's going down in Africa at at at

1044
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: these these areas and locations, Let's be honest, they he knew,

1045
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: Okay that you don't you don't run. Yeah, I'm sure

1046
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: he did. But Mrs but this this the Secretary of

1047
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: State and the State Department spokesperson were nice enough to

1048
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: answer these questions, and basically it came back was that Mr.

1049
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: Secretary Toison had no oversight, what's whatsoever, that was already

1050
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: on his way out a year before the Chad A

1051
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: and sued for unpaid royalties, and that it had just

1052
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: no bearing whatsoever on Chad being added to the the

1053
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: indefinite travel band list, the fact that they can't do

1054
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: good paperwork on UH, internally displaced persons are externally displaced

1055
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: refugees prior to them jumping on an aircraft and coming

1056
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: to the United States or elsewhere. UH isn't happening, crazy

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Speaker 1: ship man. Hey Derek, if it's okay, I want to

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Speaker 1: jump in. I want to make sure that we get

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Speaker 1: to two other major topics, if that's all right, um.

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Speaker 1: The first of which, as I mentioned earlier, the petition

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00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 1: that you started a change dot org UH, it's safe

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00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: to say, is gaining a lot of steam. Eight thousand

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Speaker 1: signatures to stop the issuance of the Green Beret to

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Speaker 1: the U. S. Army First Security Force, Assistants Brigade Um.

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Speaker 1: I was not knowledgeable about this whole situation. I was

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Speaker 1: talking about it with Jason. Well, I was talking with

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Speaker 1: with you about it earlier. And you want to give

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Speaker 1: your opinion on a Jason, because I think this is

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Speaker 1: not the first time they did this to the SF community, correct,

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Speaker 1: especially with the whole Beret deal in the color of

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Speaker 1: the Beret situation. To me, it's it's just another I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna call it what it is, another BS unit or

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01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: BS commander that wants to kind of put himself on

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Speaker 1: the tame same tier as so Calm or a Special

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01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: Operations community because of one reason or another, maybe couldn't

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Speaker 1: hack it, or maybe he didn't get orders to it

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Now he's got this authority to start his

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Speaker 1: own unit, and he's trying to steal the thunder and

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Speaker 1: and and just absorbed the thunder from the Special Operations coming.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what it feels like to me.

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Speaker 1: And you were saying that when you're talking about the

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Speaker 1: Shinseki thing, right, Yeah, exactly that I was in the

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Speaker 1: Army for that. That was horrible that he was. That

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01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: was the worst decision I've ever seen in my life,

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Speaker 1: and the Rangers didn't. They didn't take you kindly to that.

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Speaker 1: It actually took several years before people stopped getting beat

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Speaker 1: up for wearing a black beret. And then they they

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Speaker 1: get him a tam bare the truth peck that was

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Speaker 1: Sinpecky's legacy. See when he became the US Army, when

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Speaker 1: he became chief of staff. Uh, you know, he had

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Speaker 1: to have an idea there this is and this is

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Speaker 1: what we're dealing with right now. Fast forward to you.

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Speaker 1: Guys know that the Chief of Staff of the United

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Speaker 1: States Army, General Millie, he called me right, you called

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Speaker 1: me up because of the way he's eighty thousand signatures thousands. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you're almost their brother a hundred, of course you're

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Speaker 1: making head weight. And I think this podcast will help guys.

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Speaker 1: So if if you're listening, go to change dot org.

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Speaker 1: You'll see you know, and I'll link it. I'll link

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Speaker 1: it on softwarep dot com to the episode. But you'll

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Speaker 1: see if petitions stop issuance of the green beret of

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Speaker 1: the U. S Army First Security Force Assistance Brigade. UM.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's huge, dude, and congrats to you. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you did this outside of just soft wrap. It's your own,

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01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: your own creation. I didn't do it. I didn't want to.

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Speaker 1: I didn't because I was I was actually tapping into

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Speaker 1: the into the community, into the specially the Green Beret

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Speaker 1: community and the Green Beret community. It's all on committee,

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Speaker 1: it really is. And I presented this, I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I got these pictures. This goddamn beret looks exactly like ours.

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01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as brown, all brown green. It's

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Speaker 1: all of drab. Civilians cannot change tell the difference between it.

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Speaker 1: Plus I started doing the research. Now the petition, there

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01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: is nothing I I personally don't have a problem with

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01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: this with the first s FAB whose mission set is

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Speaker 1: to train and advise combat advisors. If you go and look,

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Speaker 1: you can see the patches. I mean, these things are

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Speaker 1: they have completely. The thing is that none of us

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Speaker 1: have a problem with the mission go for it, none

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Speaker 1: of us do. The problem is is that you're co

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Speaker 1: opting our heritage train green beret. You're giving him a tab,

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Speaker 1: You're giving them an arrowhead patch that looks like the

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Speaker 1: old Rokondo thing. And then I've been on the page

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Speaker 1: and that they talk about themselves as an elite unit

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Speaker 1: within the United States Army where they do special operations,

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Speaker 1: missions of train, advise and insist. And they also, you know,

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Speaker 1: they called themselves the Legion. Now fifth Group has been

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Speaker 1: known as the Legions since since. So then that's when

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Speaker 1: a lot of the guys were like, nah, fuck this.

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Speaker 1: So then I looked up the person that created this

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Speaker 1: this unit, and it was it was General Millie. Now

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Speaker 1: General Millie is an active duty long tab holder, which

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Speaker 1: means he's a Special Forces qualified Green Beret. That's now

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Speaker 1: the chief chief of the United the US Army chief

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Speaker 1: of Staff who created the first s BAB and literally

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Speaker 1: split this entire thing berets, tabs, patches and arrowhead and

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Speaker 1: arrowhead patches completely under the radar and out of the

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Speaker 1: limelight because nobody knew about this and out of the limelight.

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01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: So the miss with the issue that that the Special

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Speaker 1: Forces Brotherhood active and retired have uh is the co

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Speaker 1: opting of our heritage. The mission itself and the heritage

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Speaker 1: co opting came from a Green Beret himself, a Green

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01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: Beret general officer, and this is his legacy. And so

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01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 1: so my my assessment of it, and this is what

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01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: I think you're getting at, and correct me if I'm wrong, bro,

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Speaker 1: I just, I just this is you're not. You're not

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Speaker 1: upset with the fact that they might be doing special

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Speaker 1: operations like training when it comes to foreign military training

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01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: or some type of fm T something form military training unit.

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Speaker 1: You're not where it. But the problem is they're taking

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Speaker 1: away from the actual Green Berets history. I believe they are.

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Speaker 1: I believe they're taking away from the lineage and and

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Speaker 1: heritage of the Green Beret community and the Green Break

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Speaker 1: you know history. You're absolutely right, But I need to

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Speaker 1: focus on the fact that General Millie is a former

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Speaker 1: fifth Group Commander, fifth Special Forces Group. He you know,

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Speaker 1: he knows what the legion means. He knows that the

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Speaker 1: Bret is green. He knows the screen brown. No, it's green.

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Speaker 1: He knows the screen. He knows that that this has hap.

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Speaker 1: He knows that that there's there's a some sort of

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Speaker 1: weird selection process to be a part of this, and

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Speaker 1: then the mission set itself. I look at it as

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Speaker 1: from a tactical standpoint, it be great to have regular

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Speaker 1: Army guys come in and train up new recruits, and

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Speaker 1: then when we show up, we get like the cream

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Speaker 1: of the crop, you know what I mean? They're already

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Speaker 1: trained in basic rifle, marshman shift, they're already trained on

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Speaker 1: how to move you know. Okay, these guys show special attitudes.

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01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 1: So then we start training up commandos while these training

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Speaker 1: advised and assist regular folks train up new guys. So

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Speaker 1: it kind of streamlined the process, right. The problem is

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Speaker 1: is that the General General Millie called me and explained

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Speaker 1: all of this to me, and you know, he had

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Speaker 1: my DD form to fourteen in front of him. He's like,

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Speaker 1: do I call you start in first class Gannon or

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Speaker 1: do you call you Derek. I was like, well, I've

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Speaker 1: been retired for six years. Are you dropping? Are you

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Speaker 1: dropping weight on us? Did you just drop some weight? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's like why you were fifth? I'm like, yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was. I was. I'm a legionnaire. I speak q

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Speaker 1: R till I die. But however I talked to it

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01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: was a really good discussion and and and not. I'm

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Speaker 1: not fifteen minutes later, like before you hung with the phone,

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Speaker 1: He's like, now I'm gonna go over and talk to

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Speaker 1: the Army Times lady because she's started all this these problems,

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01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: which reporters do a lot, by the way, they like

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01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: to misconstrue and and and like exaggerate titles and words.

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01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: So it's I kind of get it. Yeah. My point

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Speaker 1: is this is that General Milly was trying to create

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Speaker 1: his own special forces group without actually having them special

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Speaker 1: forces qualified, and he got caught. But what if and

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Speaker 1: then he goes to the Army Times and they're right

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Speaker 1: after he gets done speaking with me, he goes under

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Speaker 1: the Army Times and the Army Megan Moyer, who's who

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Speaker 1: we need to leave alone. If anybody in the community

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Speaker 1: is listening to me, stop with the with the stupid

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Speaker 1: meme attacks and the disgusting racial and sexist slurs. This

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Speaker 1: is a very small minority. It's been nipped in the

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Speaker 1: butt already. But that's I don't want that. And she

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Speaker 1: wrote a she wrote a very good fluff piece about

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Speaker 1: how I started to notice about how General Milly and

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Speaker 1: the Pentagon are trying to paint a picture that the

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Speaker 1: mainstream media does a lot that the veterans that are

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Speaker 1: bitching about this and I used the word bitching are

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Speaker 1: just angry about up ray and that were I rate.

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Speaker 1: So the Army Times article, I had a problem with

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Speaker 1: it because the intent was to besmirch I love that

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01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: word and smear the petition campaign to make it look

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01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: like there's a bunch of like just over drugged, drunk, angry,

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Speaker 1: irate Green Beret veterans just running amuck on social media,

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Speaker 1: dropping memes and calling people, you know, awords and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that. And and then the but the best part

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Speaker 1: was she was as she asked him about the train

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Speaker 1: advised CIST mission. And this is General Millie, the Chief

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Speaker 1: of Staff of the United States Army and a teen

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Speaker 1: series qualified Green Beret and former Fifth Group commander, went

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Speaker 1: on record and said the Green Berets of Special Forces

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01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 1: have never trained any host nation military nor served with

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Speaker 1: them ever. And people lost their minds. Even I did.

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01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: I was like, so, who, okay, if I've never trained

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Speaker 1: and fun alongside any host nations folks, who then did

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Speaker 1: I fight with in Iraq? What? Who the fuck was that?

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01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: Because they sure ship looked Iraqi and they were a

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Speaker 1: new Arabic I mean, some of them were occurred. I

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Speaker 1: guess you could get a little weird on that. But

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Speaker 1: he literally said that, and the backlash was so was

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Speaker 1: so absolute and swift that he went onto the Army

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Speaker 1: Times website and wrote a retraction. He was like, I

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Speaker 1: should have never have said that. It's that's not actually

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Speaker 1: not true. As a Green Beret myself, I knew that

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01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: wasn't true. Direct all your hate towards me, to which

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01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: they did. I mean, he said some blatantly, uh weird things. Now, Ian,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I've actually answered your question. I

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01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: started this petition for the one reason and one reason only,

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01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,759
Speaker 1: is that we there is a micro aggressive echo chamber

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01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: is situation going on in the United States. We have

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01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: a divisiveness in the United States that's really really, really

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01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: focused on a lot of people are like no, no,

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01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 1: everyone's really happy and fun and friendly. Not if you

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01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: watch the news, there's the most of weird, the most

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01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: divisive nation in the world. And this the petition. I

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01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: started this petition because if you're going to politicize veterans

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01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: about taking a knee an NFL game and I'm not

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01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: gonna get into that or protesting the national anthem, and

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Speaker 1: you say that, you're you're you're just just disparaging the

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Speaker 1: veteran men and women who fought and died for that flag.

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Speaker 1: And that makes you, that makes you, that makes you unpatriotic,

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: that makes you not a veteran or a military supporter,

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01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 1: and that makes you an angry liberal communist. Well, if

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna politicize veterans, this is what politicism. The politicization

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01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: of veterans looked like. Gonna change dot org that has

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01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: a direct pipeline to the Department of Defense, Joint Special

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01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: Operations Command, Special Operations Command, and the Department of Defense.

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01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: I combined a group of caps, if you will, because

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01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: veterans themselves are hard to get focused on one specific

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01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: thing if it's not destroying somebody, it's hard to kind

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01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: of focus them on one specific things, let alone. Having Greenberg,

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Speaker 1: I was able to control, not so much control, but

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01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: to guide a herd of veteran and active duty Green

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Speaker 1: Beret cats to a collective mission that See, this is

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Speaker 1: the political process. A peppe fucking meme isn't political. A

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Speaker 1: petition along with social interaction and guidance through your community

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01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: and giving back the community, this is what this is

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to do. People may think it's funny that

1265
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: a grown ass man is is it started a position

1266
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,600
Speaker 1: over a beret, But if you've never earned one, you

1267
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: don't understand it. Let's just see a bunch of kids

1268
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: walking around wearing it. I want them to be proud

1269
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 1: of their units. I want them to have unit cohesion.

1270
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: But pick a different color. Yeah, pick a different color. Look,

1271
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: start your own fucking legacy. Don't steal that that's already established.

1272
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 1: And let me say, let me tell you from the

1273
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: outside looking in, and you know, I'm a Marine and

1274
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: we are are some of the freaking biggest traditionalists when

1275
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 1: it comes to the d O D. Like, we can

1276
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 1: recite back to some of our first officers, let alone units,

1277
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: you know, and we we keep that legacy, that lineage

1278
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: true and strong throughout all of our teachings, whether it's

1279
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 1: boot camp, whether it's in the Marine Corps, whether you're

1280
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:21,839
Speaker 1: in you're in the Fleet, and you're in the FMF.

1281
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we have these periods of instructions where we

1282
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: remember all our forefathers, of the guys that came before us.

1283
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: For lack of better term, um, you know, we remember

1284
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 1: these guys for a reason because it makes us that

1285
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 1: much more prouder of who we are. And the same

1286
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 1: thing goes for your unit, your special Operations unit, your

1287
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: your special Forces, your green berets. These are these are

1288
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 1: all things that men have literally bled and died for

1289
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: where the flag have covered their caskets. And if you're

1290
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: gonna start your own unit, which fuck the mission. Who

1291
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 1: cares if you are doing special operations like missions, your training, Okay,

1292
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: I get it, Start your own goddamn lineage. Don't started

1293
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: off the back of another units. You know, I totally

1294
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: get it. Don't water down what we did and what

1295
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, and and too. And to General Milly's defense,

1296
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: I don't anybody think I'm talking. The man called me

1297
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: he respected the process enough and understood that when he

1298
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 1: did and and understood that in three days, in seventy

1299
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: two hours, we had eight two eighty two thousand signatures

1300
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: in three days. And that was just a Twitter campaign.

1301
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: That was it. And then and then journalists started writing

1302
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 1: about it. Scotland wrote about it, our our own Steve Balisari,

1303
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: he's been tracking it. Army Times had an op ed

1304
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 1: from my real good friend Scott Neil, you know, original

1305
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: Horse Soldier about it, uh, you know Army Times or

1306
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: another retraction about it. I mean, it's the god damn

1307
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 1: United States Military at west Point wrote about it. Their

1308
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: CTC Sentinel magazine wrote about it in and in a

1309
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 1: good light. They're like maybe you should have picked something know,

1310
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: far away from a color that screen, you know. And

1311
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 1: then everybody brought up the Shenski black black Beret Rangers

1312
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 1: thing too, and the Rangers got a rob deal. They

1313
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,799
Speaker 1: got a rob goddamn deal, and a lot of Rangers,

1314
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, even new Rangers now know that the the

1315
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 1: Tan beret was not the original brick. But the point

1316
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: of the petition was I was listening to the collective

1317
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: disagreement and and complaining that was actually turning pretty pretty

1318
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: sound within the brotherhood itself, and and I positive as like, hey,

1319
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: does anybody have a problem if I start a petition?

1320
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's show the United States what a

1321
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: political middle ground actually looks like. Because a lot of

1322
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: these guys in the SSET Brotherhood do you think I

1323
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 1: do you think I agree with them politically? No, there's

1324
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,640
Speaker 1: some three for centers in there. There's there's there's some

1325
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: there may be there may be even all left and

1326
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: right folks in there, you know, the left not so much.

1327
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: I'm a minority. But all these people with different ideas,

1328
01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: different unit cohesion, different realization of who they are, and

1329
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 1: people they don't like, came together and in and in

1330
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: and for three days was able to gather eighty eight

1331
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: thousand signatures and get the attention of not only the

1332
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: Pentagon but the Chief of Staff of the United States Army.

1333
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: Who's this? This first Special Security Forces Advisory Brigade is

1334
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: his baby that until when he retired, Like I created

1335
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: an entire unit out of Derek, until until they rectify this.

1336
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: I would like to officially call him swagger Jackers. Can

1337
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 1: we call him that? Swaggon jack in as unit? Listen,

1338
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: I got a question for you, maybe because you're the

1339
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 1: only one that could really give us some insight on this,

1340
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: something that I haven't heard much of. Um tenth group,

1341
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 1: sorry in first class Stephen B. Cribbon, who just recently, Yes,

1342
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,799
Speaker 1: so what do you got on him? He just passed

1343
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: away in the Logar province, So you know what's going

1344
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: on over there? Uh? The only thing that I got

1345
01:14:54,760 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 1: back um from Eustatok was was cribbins um Uh A

1346
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: very brief Uh. I would they are keeping it tight?

1347
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: I heard, Yeah, they're keeping it. They're keeping it pretty

1348
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: tight tightly lippt um. The shittiness about that is that

1349
01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:15,599
Speaker 1: I've got I hate saying this. I've got I've got

1350
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 1: six dead green Berets that I'm tracking right now for

1351
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: you know, the the four and in the Jair, the

1352
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: one in Molly and or excuse me seven and the

1353
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: two now in Afghanistan and right now the used to

1354
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: suck the the They gave me some some good deep

1355
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: dive information on his on his uh. And the other

1356
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: one you're talking about is Jacob Sims. I think one

1357
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 1: sixties sore STIs yeah Stims. Now the one sixties sore

1358
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,600
Speaker 1: thing that that was, Um, that was a that was

1359
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: an unfortunate helicopter accident. Um if you believe that, uh

1360
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: and and it really high like that tested. That's why

1361
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: we got to talk about this stuff, you know, That's

1362
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: why we got to bring it up. Because if it,

1363
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 1: like you said the same thing with Niger, if you

1364
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 1: don't talk about it, no one's gonna talk about it

1365
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 1: or even investigate or look into it. So I mean,

1366
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: we'd have to bring these things up. That's what we

1367
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: do here. I'm glad. I'm glad you brought it up.

1368
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 1: I will say that that there is work going on

1369
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: about the Afghanistan thing right now as an active research

1370
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: and active at a collection. I'm being totally cryptic because

1371
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: I want to sound super cool right now. But yeah,

1372
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: we're we're working on we and I are working on

1373
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: on something on kind of like a splainer if you will,

1374
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,640
Speaker 1: on what happened in that in the logar in Afghanistan,

1375
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: that one sixty, but what potentially would have happened and

1376
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: and things like that. I appreciate. Yeah, No, I no worries. Man.

1377
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes I feel like, come on, cocaine, I just gotta

1378
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,600
Speaker 1: talk as fast as Tuck. But I guess we gotta that.

1379
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: Hey listen, man, you're gonna be on here again. I

1380
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 1: think you're the one of the most informed fools we

1381
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: got up in this mug, all right. So I appreciate

1382
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,600
Speaker 1: it because I have no hobbies that's outside of, you know,

1383
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: getting tattoos and and trying to stay out of jail.

1384
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,640
Speaker 1: Are you gonna get tattooed by Jason when you come

1385
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,640
Speaker 1: to New York. That's why I keep every time I'm

1386
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: on the show, I'm gonna mention it to Jason because

1387
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: tattoo parlor. So yeah, I'd like to get the Homeboy discount,

1388
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: but I don't want to get like like cookie Monster.

1389
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you know me better than that bro.

1390
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, having that ship, bro, it's gonna go

1391
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: hard pretty good. Hey, speaking of which, man, can we

1392
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: talk about Jason for a second. Have a book going

1393
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,200
Speaker 1: It's I don't know, it's all right, I guess you know.

1394
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: Everything is like you said, it's cryptic right now. It's

1395
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 1: like the fucking goddamn US government over here. Everybody's keeping

1396
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: things tight lip. You know, I won't see nothing actually

1397
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: officially when it comes to numbers for like another month

1398
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: or so. That's just the way the business works. But

1399
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: it's going good. I know we're moving up in ranks

1400
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 1: and Amazon UM. So that means that people are reading

1401
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: it and referring it. So and everyone that is getting

1402
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 1: back to me. You know, I doubt it's fakeness because

1403
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,320
Speaker 1: it's just random strangers hitting me up and saying that

1404
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 1: it's a page turner. It's addictive. So you know, it's good,

1405
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: and you know, I guess I'm getting reaffirmation that, you know, UM,

1406
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: the message I set out to UM basically you know,

1407
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,560
Speaker 1: deliver well, it is that in fact being received. So

1408
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, it's about

1409
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: me giving these this younger generation UM the cheat codes

1410
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: to your enlistment and to your family, you know, at

1411
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: the end of the day. So that's I like. I

1412
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: like that, And you know, guys like you need a

1413
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: fucking right to bro. You need a book. Bro, what's up? Soft?

1414
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:31,599
Speaker 1: Didn't do anything? I didn't do anything. Cool. I can't

1415
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 1: use that now now that ship is mine since day one, fool,

1416
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: you can't have that. You you got Legion, Bro. I'm

1417
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: not Legion Erica. That's inside. But you got the Legion. Bro.

1418
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: That's ship. That sounds tight, the Legion. Come on the

1419
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 1: funk out of here. That's awesome, dude, you got it. Well, Hey, boys,

1420
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bounce. I gotta get going. Oh we didn't

1421
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: even we didn't even get into the green break held

1422
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: in Molly. Could I, you know, maybe get well, yeah,

1423
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: if you want to sum it up, and then I

1424
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 1: want to mention one of the real quick Okay, yeah,

1425
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: sorry about that. Guys. You can't put on pants yet. Bro,

1426
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: let's go. It's f I have like three other topics

1427
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to cover with Derek. But I appreciate it. Man.

1428
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: You asked Derek one question and we're on a roll.

1429
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: But it's good. I want Yeah, that was my fault,

1430
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: No fault. Did you read it wrong? Did you thought

1431
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: we were rushing you? We were just were just trying

1432
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: to hit the topics. Let's go, brother, come on. Yeah,

1433
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: so Molly, um, very very interesting situation. Not a lot

1434
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: being put out on in public as far as information. Um,

1435
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,880
Speaker 1: it's super it's it's it's a sensitive topic because once

1436
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 1: again it deals with Seal Team six and and and

1437
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: this time it also deals with it's so what we know,

1438
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: um in a quick distort, you know, kind of down

1439
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: dirty is uh you know, uh, from what from what

1440
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: we we had found out both at Software and through

1441
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 1: you know, our own private channels here over at Software

1442
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: we're doing quick research on this. Was that um ay,

1443
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: there's a there's rumors that drugs and alcohol may have

1444
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: been involved. It's always that. Plus the reason why I

1445
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 1: call gone now we don't know that there there's from

1446
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: what use of suck and for what navspect Wars public

1447
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: affairs offices have told Software to include myself, is that

1448
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: there's an active investigation going on and they're not going

1449
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: to comment, which is we get that someone like this

1450
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: is something indicative of like some some sort of fight

1451
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 1: club gone bad. Uh, you know the room that where

1452
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 1: Amelga was found looked like a bomb had gone off

1453
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: on it. There was definitely a signs of the struggle.

1454
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: And that's why the the the the I guess, the

1455
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 1: Army attache or the the command attached for the Special

1456
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: Forces UH instantly called in the c I D, which

1457
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: is the U. S Army's Criminal Investigation Division UH and

1458
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: order under under the auspices of foul play that was

1459
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: further further solidified and n c I S was brought in.

1460
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: Was after the fact that the two Navy seals were

1461
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: actually not considered persons of interests. They were considered witnesses

1462
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 1: like you know, UH, chief witnesses. And after the military

1463
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 1: medical examiner came back and said that that that the

1464
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: cause of death was was blunt trauma or it was

1465
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 1: due due to strangulation. Was definitely due to intentional strangulation,

1466
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: and came in and took took spearheaded it and the

1467
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 1: two Navy seals from Seal Team six, by the way,

1468
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 1: dev grew Jaysack boys. UH, we're I guess, put on

1469
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 1: my plane, removed from Molly, sent back to dan Nick

1470
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: East coast of the United States, and immediately put on

1471
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: an administrative leave. They got some ship coming down the pipe.

1472
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: Uh maybe you know, maybe Jack Jack's well, Jack's follow

1473
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: up deals a lot more with how the Seal Team

1474
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: six and Jay Saw deal with U. C. MJ. No.

1475
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 1: I was, I was. I was a part of SOCOM,

1476
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 1: and you know, I understand, like you know, we were

1477
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: given a certain leniency when it came to issues so

1478
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 1: to speak, that arose out in town, not like the

1479
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: regular Marine Corps. I'm not gonna exactly tip the hand

1480
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: because you know what, those guys kind of need that leniency,

1481
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 1: They need that trust because a lot of the situations

1482
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: that happen, you know, some of them are you know

1483
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: a little over exaggerated, and they need to have that

1484
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: wiggle room to come out of them, unlike you know,

1485
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 1: regular Marine Corps where you know, you fart the wrong

1486
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: way and you're gonna lose rank, you know. So, um,

1487
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: that being said, I just want to say everyone, it

1488
01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: doesn't matter who what unit you're attached to. Everyone has

1489
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 1: those crazy fucking nights. You know. I remember where we

1490
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 1: used to fucking hold ourselves up in the barracks and

1491
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: you know, you know how the ranges have numbers on

1492
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, our marine Corps. BASI like Range ones team.

1493
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: You know, our barracks rooms had numbers too, so we

1494
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: would get drunk and you know, play these games like

1495
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 1: you know, if your room number was like two or two,

1496
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: we're called like Range too, too, And we'll put on

1497
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 1: fucking flag jacket and kevlar and fucking drink and listen

1498
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: to music. And when we're done with the beer, Botty

1499
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 1: will fucking launch that ship on the wall and just

1500
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: smash that motherfucker, you know what I mean. So, I

1501
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: mean the room would look like you describe their room.

1502
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is when alcohol and high

1503
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 1: Test tossed their own motherfucker's get you know, start mingling,

1504
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 1: you know, ship goes down so um. But as far

1505
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: as you're saying, you know the way certain leniencies are

1506
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: given towards uh A so calm or Jason Soccat's uh

1507
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: I get it, you know. But that being said, even then,

1508
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 1: if something happened in there, I gotta say, in their

1509
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 1: lack of judgment, it's something they gotta live with two men,

1510
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna be really, really fucking heavy

1511
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 1: for them to deal with, too, bro, You know what

1512
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: I mean? I agree, I completely agree. Hey, Derek, thank you.

1513
01:23:48,640 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: I mean there's another and there's an underlying problem in

1514
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: in in in the military, well in the United States

1515
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: as a whole, not just a military, we have a

1516
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: serious problem with with substance abuse. Yeah, as a whole.

1517
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 1: You're right, bro, So and it's not a bad thing.

1518
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: It's like op tempo and being in pain and everything

1519
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: else like that. I mean, eventually, what humans not going

1520
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: to try to seek some sort of respite from that,

1521
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 1: so and then having a deed, Get it, man, I

1522
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: totally get especially fucking come on, this is deaf group, bro,

1523
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, there's a lot of

1524
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: fucking There's a lot of ship going on there, you know,

1525
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 1: especially throwing an SF cat into the mix. You're throw

1526
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: into you know, the bigger dig contest things going on,

1527
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: and yeah, ship is going to go down, you know.

1528
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: But like like you said, you know, I maybe there

1529
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 1: needs to be not oversight. Not to say I don't

1530
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 1: want to want these guys to be micro they can't be,

1531
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 1: it's impossible, but maybe things afforded to them. You know

1532
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: that they're not going to realize until they're older, until

1533
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 1: their our age, you know that, Like I said, that

1534
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: emotional rubber band has reached this complete capacity of elasticity,

1535
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like these guys they had

1536
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: that has to be recognized. Some of these guys need

1537
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 1: to be talked to. They need to know that they have,

1538
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, things available to them to work through these situations.

1539
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: And while they're active, they don't want to actively seek it.

1540
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: But I think they need to be prompted towards these

1541
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 1: things because if they're going to stay in for twenty

1542
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 1: years or something like that, within a community where they're

1543
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 1: allowed to operate, these things need to be addressed. Do

1544
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 1: you agree. I agree. And the guys that stay in

1545
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: the community for twenty years and don't address that is

1546
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: there is has the potential of creating quite a toxic command.

1547
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,560
Speaker 1: That's that's my opinion. If you've got a guys that

1548
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 1: have been doing this and they consider it not a

1549
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 1: big issue, they come all way up to the ranks

1550
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: and then they're they're in charge of units such as this.

1551
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this is the case, and I

1552
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: could create a toxic command where it's it's okay for

1553
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: these types of behaviors is to kind of continue to

1554
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: to get worse. Yeah, Hey, Derek, can I break in

1555
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: the Can I break your balls about one thing before

1556
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 1: we let you go? Yeah, but then I've got to go.

1557
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: You can break my balls. You haven't done it all day,

1558
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna break your balls right now. Uh. The

1559
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 1: last show, we had Jesse Davenport on Who's Jason's Brother?

1560
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: You know, I felt in Scott Sniper and he taught

1561
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: about that his time as a Marine Scott Sniper was

1562
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: just far more, you know, I guess proud moment of

1563
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: his than being a Green Beret, which he also was.

1564
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: And on the show he said, you remember him saying

1565
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: the que Course was a breeze. He's like, it was

1566
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:17,679
Speaker 1: nothing to me. Yeah, but that's hold on. In his defense,

1567
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: you gotta understand, this motherfucker went through Marine Scotts Sniper School,

1568
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: fucking several indoctor nations like this ship as hell, bro,

1569
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 1: and then to go from that to the que Course,

1570
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 1: It's like the equivalent of a fucking bread baker and

1571
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 1: a candlestick maker in the Navy going to the buds

1572
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: and then becoming a fucking killer within however many weeks

1573
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 1: program that is, and then so on after I just

1574
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: wanted to see what Derek thought though, of course it's

1575
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 1: going to be easy for him, but not a typical

1576
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: kid because he watched the Discovery Channel two weeks in

1577
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: hell and it's not two weeks. I'll tell you right now,

1578
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 1: they can't show the other three weeks of the of

1579
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: the que course. In the selection course, I will take

1580
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 1: on that Scott sniper, I don't give you better kill

1581
01:26:58,680 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: me from a far away. You think what I think?

1582
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 1: I think? Wait? Wait, I think what his point was

1583
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: that you know where the a t n X ray

1584
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: issue is what he's he has issue with. Is it

1585
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,680
Speaker 1: where some of these younger guys, you know, inexperience in

1586
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: the in combat and experience in the maturity required to

1587
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,839
Speaker 1: conduct these operations, you know, are starting to flood the teams,

1588
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 1: and they're starting to kind of like kind of like

1589
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,360
Speaker 1: funk up the name of the all the guys that

1590
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: put in work, all the guys I've been out there,

1591
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: all the fucking senior guys and the legacy guys, and

1592
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: because they're just you know, they're getting they're they're they're already,

1593
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's still too fucking immature to understand the

1594
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: responsibility they have. I think that was his point you

1595
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 1: know what do you think about that? Okay, yep, no,

1596
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: I totally agree with him then, and you guys can

1597
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 1: all blame Donald Rumsfeld for that shift fucking rum given

1598
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 1: given Osama bin laden guns and then you know, having

1599
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 1: to kill him. How I want to create this off.

1600
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's reignite the x ray program from nineteen

1601
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: sixty six. The first couple of classes that went to

1602
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 1: the X ray program, if they survived, those are some

1603
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: hard dudes. Well, we love having the only reason I'm

1604
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 1: cutting off Derek's Derek's like, I gotta as better to do. Fine,

1605
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: all right, we'll let you go at Derek Gannon see

1606
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: him six. We're gonna definitely have you on soon. Man.

1607
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: We got to talk about a lot of other things.

1608
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: I love your brother and love your right and keep

1609
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: it up, Broire you too, buddy. I'll talk to you

1610
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 1: guys later, Okay, right on, bangs man. All right, So, man,

1611
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: that great having Derek on the show. I feel like

1612
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: Derek had a lot pent up to talk about because

1613
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 1: the last couple of times we had Derek on it

1614
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: was like, hey Derek, we have another guest. So it's

1615
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: a quick ten fifteen minute hit so now you know

1616
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 1: he wanted to get to everything, and I'm glad that

1617
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: he did. Isn't he so knowledgeable, especially about the topic

1618
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 1: in Africa, which is ridiculous because you don't get to

1619
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: hear all these details. I mean, you can, obviously anyone

1620
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 1: could go on and do their research and pulls them

1621
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: of this up. But to have that that inside insider

1622
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 1: point of view, especially for me, this guy's more I

1623
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: think he's more liberal than conservative. You go, he's open

1624
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 1: about which is fucking cool because he's still a fucking

1625
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 1: patriot and can still be liberal and he understands the

1626
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 1: way the system works. So and that's another thing he

1627
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 1: brought up. Regardless of your political affiliation within the soft community,

1628
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 1: within the SF community, they're gripe, is what the watering

1629
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: down or the stealing, the swagger jacking, for lack of

1630
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: better terms, the swagger jacking of the lineage. It doesn't

1631
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: matter what what what affiliation you you subscribe to, You're

1632
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: you're stealing my blood, sweat and tears, my work ethic

1633
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: might I'm not worth it, my sweat equity. You know

1634
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 1: what I put into this community and what this community

1635
01:29:45,200 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 1: has given me and what has came before me, like

1636
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: if you're starting your own unit, start your own unit

1637
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 1: and start your own legacy. And and what you're saying

1638
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: about Derek is true because people have said to me, Um,

1639
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, like what's the political uh le you know,

1640
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 1: lean of the side or the show and the whole

1641
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: thing about it, which is great and a huge credit

1642
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 1: to Brandon and and Jack more than anything is as

1643
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 1: long as you're a guy with the experience, they don't

1644
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: care what angle you're coming from. You know, Derek has

1645
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 1: said it before, and other writers have said that. There's

1646
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 1: never been a time that Brandon or Jack have said like,

1647
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,760
Speaker 1: don't put this on the side. It's too it's too conservative,

1648
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: or it's too liberal. You know. Um, we've had Christen

1649
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 1: Beck on the show. We've also had Rob O'Neil on

1650
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: the show. You know what I mean, very different opinions.

1651
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: So we like controversy. I mean, that's you guys want

1652
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: to hear both sides of the table, both sides of

1653
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: the conversation. You're gonna get it. As long as we

1654
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:41,680
Speaker 1: got the guys with the experience, I know what the

1655
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 1: hell they're talking about talk about the stuff. And that's

1656
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 1: what we do here in software and now listen. This

1657
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,640
Speaker 1: episode to me was probably one of the most insightful

1658
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: when it came to a specific subject, because I don't

1659
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 1: think what Derek put out with us today was ever

1660
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 1: put out, you know Derek, And especially with the Rex

1661
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 1: Tillerson situation, that's something it was huge. It was major,

1662
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,720
Speaker 1: like I don't know, but deserves maybe a second looking into.

1663
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: But what I'm trying to say is, Wow, look at

1664
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,320
Speaker 1: the guys we have working on staff. I mean, this

1665
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: is what you're gonna get with the writing content on

1666
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: the on the on the on the website. Go ahead

1667
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 1: and take a look at it. We're gonna bring these

1668
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: guys on again. I mean, these guys the subject duty experts,

1669
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: and you can't fucking deny that. Yeah, but that's the

1670
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: great thing, man. We make people laugh, we make people

1671
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: learn something that's like Corey Lanis when he comes on

1672
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 1: the show. It's the same thing. I've learned more about

1673
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:37,160
Speaker 1: hacking through him than just about anybody. And sometimes when

1674
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: I tell people that we have like computer hackers at

1675
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 1: the site, they're like, oh, the US you know, people

1676
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: who aren't really informably like the US government is hackers. Yeah,

1677
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 1: we do. You know what I mean, and he's even

1678
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 1: said on the show about, uh, you know, the whole

1679
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: idea of Russia influencing influencing our election. He's like, yeah,

1680
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 1: you don't think we influence other people's elections. We do

1681
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 1: it all the time. Yeah. So I think it's a

1682
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: lot of people lack of knowledge. You think this is

1683
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 1: some amazing thing that Russia wanted the election to go

1684
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 1: a certain way. And you know what, Actually, I'm gonna

1685
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 1: play something on here because I know I have it

1686
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: on the SoundCloud. And now that's for nothing. If I

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01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: thought Hillary Clay was going to inevitably become the president,

1688
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: I would have driving my goddamn best to change it. Too. Well,

1689
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 1: here's the thing I know Tom To agrees with me.

1690
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this because, um, as I'm saying it,

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01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: it reminds me of a clip. I have this five

1692
01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 1: minute clip of core Alanis and from what he said,

1693
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: it was not about getting Frump elected. It was about

1694
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the clip. I'm gonna see what you think.

1695
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 1: So this was pretty crazy. It came out yesterday as

1696
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: we're taping this, and Corey Elane has put it in

1697
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 1: our soft in our Soft rep Writers group and I

1698
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: think it was to say, hey, I was I was

1699
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 1: right on something. It looks like. So this is from

1700
01:32:56,160 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: CNN exclusive Russian bought black Lives Matter ads on Facebook

1701
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 1: targeted Baltimore and Ferguson. At least one of the Facebook

1702
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 1: ads bought by Russians during the ten presidential campaign referenced

1703
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:15,280
Speaker 1: black Lives Matter and was specifically targeted to reach audiences

1704
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 1: in Ferguson, Missouri, and Baltimore. Sourcing right knowledge of the

1705
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,919
Speaker 1: ads told CNN Ferguson and Baltimore tea the widespread attention

1706
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 1: for the large and violent protests over police shootings of

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01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 1: black men. The decision to target the ad and those

1708
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 1: two cities offers the first look at how counsel linked

1709
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 1: to Russian government affiliated troll farm known as the Internet

1710
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 1: Research Agency, used geographically targeted advertising and so political chaos

1711
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 1: in the United States, the sources said um Facebook had

1712
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: previously said that roughly one quarter of the three thousand

1713
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: ads bought by the agency were geographically targeted, but it

1714
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: is not revealed any specific locations. Facebook has also not

1715
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: revealed which gemographic groups and interests groups were targeted by

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01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 1: the ads. So here's the interesting thing about this. If

1717
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 1: you're a if you're like a die hard listener the

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01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: podcast here's every episode, then you already know. Corey Alanis

1719
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 1: two months ago kind of stated this on the podcast UM,

1720
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 1: and what he was saying was that I think this

1721
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: is where I actually get to it. This is was

1722
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:24,280
Speaker 1: to cause chaos and disruption in the system. Before I

1723
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 1: even have you comment on this, because you worked in

1724
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,760
Speaker 1: the CIA, Drew, and you you probably know something about

1725
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:31,320
Speaker 1: these type of operations on some level, I feel like

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01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:35,880
Speaker 1: I should play the clip he Alanis um because people

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01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 1: loved this clip to him because he had a take

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01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: that no one else was saying, and now it's being

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01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 1: backed up by some evidence. So I'm just gonna play

1730
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: the clip for you guys and like to hear it

1731
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: now two months later. So that was a wild ago

1732
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: he said this. If it'll play there we go. Forens matters.

1733
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, is there evidence

1734
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:03,560
Speaker 1: of any kind of like Russian effect on the Votalian?

1735
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:07,519
Speaker 1: You know, and that starts with the point of this

1736
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: is that that starts with a nominally false inductive reasoning,

1737
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 1: the fact that Russians actually influenced the mentality that is

1738
01:35:16,320 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: not Russian effort. The Russian effort is an active as

1739
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,640
Speaker 1: as Jack is outlined and other people outlined, it's an

1740
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 1: information operation. To be clear, America, you are the target

1741
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: of the information operation, not Donald Trump. Donald Trump is

1742
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,559
Speaker 1: an idiot. He is not the fucking target of an

1743
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 1: information operation. If anything, he is probably guilty of having

1744
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: business relationships with Russians that would be questionable at best. Um.

1745
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: But the target of the information operation in the strate

1746
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: strategic communication campaign, it's America. It's Americans, because the Russians

1747
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: don't give a funk who you elect in America. They

1748
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:58,600
Speaker 1: care that America collapses and destroys itself and implodes it

1749
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 1: on itself, and they don't care that they control an

1750
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 1: American president that would be retarded. There's no point behind that.

1751
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, four years of control of some candidate, Okay,

1752
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: And after four years you lose control of the candidate,

1753
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 1: and then you have some kind of influence. Whoop de fuck.

1754
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 1: But the end of the day, if what you seek

1755
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 1: is essentially revenge for was basically a fiscal or free

1756
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:25,240
Speaker 1: market revolution um that was basically influenced significantly by the

1757
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: United States, And the best way to execute that is

1758
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 1: basically have America died by falling on its own sword,

1759
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: and so right, so lose lose faith in its institutions,

1760
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 1: lose faith in the rule of law, lose faith in

1761
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 1: the the electoral college, lose faith in who they vote for. Yes,

1762
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 1: that's that's basically. And I know, I know you're not

1763
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: going to agree with the Donald Trump Pardever, that's I

1764
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: don't care. I agree with it. Listen, Yeah, why not?

1765
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,960
Speaker 1: I agree with what it was because damn, that ship

1766
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 1: was clear, concise and logical. Because if the end game

1767
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 1: is always the long game, am I correct? Especially in

1768
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 1: the intelligence field, the end game is always a long game.

1769
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,919
Speaker 1: And think about it, what has what had just recently

1770
01:37:06,479 --> 01:37:12,040
Speaker 1: resurged from our past racial tensions? And as you say,

1771
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:17,560
Speaker 1: they bought ads influencing Black Lives Matter because they know

1772
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:23,799
Speaker 1: racial tensions or a create the creation of a racial

1773
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:27,679
Speaker 1: war will be probably the only thing that would divide

1774
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 1: this country. And you know what the infamous saying goes together,

1775
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:34,599
Speaker 1: we stand divided, we fall, of course, because and now

1776
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 1: look at it, it makes perfect fucking sense nowadays. I mean,

1777
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 1: you can go on a date with a girl and

1778
01:37:41,439 --> 01:37:44,600
Speaker 1: you know she's probably not political whatsoever, But if she

1779
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 1: finds out you're fucking pro Trump, she'll make funny you

1780
01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 1: can probably walk out of the date, you know. And

1781
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 1: and that's the ridiculous thing. And I get there that

1782
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:56,560
Speaker 1: adamant about something they know nothing about because of the

1783
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 1: message sent to them directly. And you know what players

1784
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: into that too is remember when Trump did win the election,

1785
01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: and by the way, whatever your opinion of him is,

1786
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 1: legitimately won the election. And people were like, oh, he

1787
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 1: stole the election because you know, she won the popular vote,

1788
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 1: but he won the electoral vote. Well, that's great, she

1789
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 1: won the contest. They weren't having like she also rigged

1790
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 1: the d n C so that that Bernie Sanders never

1791
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:24,920
Speaker 1: even had a chance. But and that goes to what

1792
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 1: he was saying, the American people lose faith in the

1793
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: electoral system. You know that. That's there's so many people

1794
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 1: saying that Donald Trump didn't legitimately win the election. And

1795
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,240
Speaker 1: he did legitimately win the election. Did It doesn't matter

1796
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: if Russia had any influence with Facebook ads and all

1797
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 1: this other stuff. It doesn't matter. Joe Biden's current book

1798
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,400
Speaker 1: that he just wrote, and he wrote the well, aside

1799
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 1: from the obvious reasons, which is the reason that the

1800
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,680
Speaker 1: death of his son and all the other things you

1801
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 1: know going on was a hero by the way, it

1802
01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 1: was a super Yeah, it's a hero man. What I'm

1803
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 1: trying to say is despite that, he didn't want us

1804
01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 1: to inject his family to the screw. And he, however,

1805
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,440
Speaker 1: he didn't want to subject his family to the scrutiny

1806
01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 1: and the negative attention coming from Hillary's campaign or the

1807
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: aggression coming from Hillary's campaign. So he just didn't even

1808
01:39:14,920 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 1: want to deal with it. Knowing domn well, he probably

1809
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 1: could have won, or Bernie Sounds probably could have won,

1810
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: aside from his socialistic agenda. You know. But my point,

1811
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 1: America is going to vote a guy openly, you don't

1812
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 1: know because of what you know. You're looking at the

1813
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: other side of the coin, which was especially if an

1814
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: active uh campaign to uh be smirch. You know, Donald

1815
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: Trump was was being uh it was underway. You know,

1816
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 1: maybe people took to Bernie Sounds more than they took

1817
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,519
Speaker 1: to Hillary Clint. Everyone felt and knew Hillary Clinton was

1818
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: being forced down the throat of the Democratic partying. There's

1819
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: nothing exciding. She was passing out left and right. She

1820
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: had ties to your um one crab, the deal. You know,

1821
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: she she was as cricket as they come. And you know,

1822
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 1: despite uh you know, Trump's you know, labeling of his

1823
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 1: opponents and stuff like that. Whatever you want to talk about,

1824
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, psychological warfare, not the

1825
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: truth is behind every joke, there's a little bit of truth.

1826
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 1: She is probably one of the most crooked politicians we've

1827
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:22,160
Speaker 1: ever dealt with, you know, especially just look at her

1828
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 1: income or her net worth. Holiday just boosted from going

1829
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 1: from the first Lady to becoming the head of the

1830
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 1: Department of State, you know what I'm saying. So I

1831
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 1: don't know, uh, the special favors come into play. Yeah,

1832
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you look into it, and we actually

1833
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 1: do approve that special counsel to a special investigative counsel

1834
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 1: to go ahead and look into those things like the

1835
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: Uranian uranium one deal and so and so forth, we'll

1836
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 1: find a lot of wrongdoing, a lot of wrongdoing within

1837
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 1: her and her campaign and her family. All Right. So

1838
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:52,760
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is she was forced down

1839
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 1: the Democrats. So I think if anything, the Democrat the

1840
01:40:55,439 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 1: Democrats of this nation should really really come together and

1841
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 1: say what the funk chuck, what happened. Why were we

1842
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 1: force fed this woman when we knew she wasn't gonna win?

1843
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:10,600
Speaker 1: Why do you hate women? I'm gonna so I'm going

1844
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 1: to get so much crap about that I don't know

1845
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:15,519
Speaker 1: about from this audience. Thank god, I love this audience.

1846
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here sometimes. I get, you know, all

1847
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 1: of us get. I think that's just no, not for nothing,

1848
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 1: not for nothing in this day and age, with with

1849
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:26,280
Speaker 1: this racial divide that we have going on. Of course,

1850
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: it's just it's being fed. I mean you look online.

1851
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:31,599
Speaker 1: Everybody's passing around the memes. I mean, guys, like I said,

1852
01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: felons I can't even fucking vote, are fucking throwing up

1853
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 1: anti Trump memes like bro, worry about getting money in

1854
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 1: your family like you used to before you got locked up.

1855
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 1: All right, you know what I'm saying. That's my point, Like, stop,

1856
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:46,600
Speaker 1: all you're doing is adding fuel to the fire. Listen, America.

1857
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:49,879
Speaker 1: If you don't have a solution to the goddamn problem,

1858
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 1: stop fucking bringing up the problem. Okay, unless you have

1859
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:55,600
Speaker 1: a solution to it, then say something about it, but

1860
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 1: don't be the fuel to the fire. Stop with the spreading.

1861
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 1: They hate the memes and like um. Derek also said,

1862
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 1: with the writer from the Army Times, you know what

1863
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:07,639
Speaker 1: the funk other memes that anti you know, female memes

1864
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 1: and all that, that's bullying, Okay, and you know what,

1865
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 1: we're better than that. We're more mature than that. Okay.

1866
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 1: Let her while wing her own crap whatever it is, Okay,

1867
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: whatever you feel she did. She's a journalist. She's gonna

1868
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 1: get you know, she's gonna try to write the most

1869
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 1: provocative piece she can write, or basically try to enforce

1870
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 1: her agenda. That's what writers do, all right, But we

1871
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 1: don't need to stoop to that level. I think what

1872
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:34,080
Speaker 1: Derek is doing is very diplomatic and and honestly probably

1873
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 1: one of the best ways to approach a situation, which

1874
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 1: is going straight to the horse's mouth. You know what,

1875
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 1: sound what I'm saying. But at the end of the day, guys,

1876
01:42:42,360 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 1: just cut it the hell out, come together. You know,

1877
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what your party is. We're fucking Americans, man,

1878
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,799
Speaker 1: and we have when we have proof that other nations

1879
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 1: are actively trying to divise us, trying to divide us,

1880
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 1: trying to destroy us. It's it's us against them, that's

1881
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 1: all it is. You know, um two things before we

1882
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 1: get out of here. We had a great email that

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Speaker 1: I know you read, so I want to get to that,

1884
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Speaker 1: and I want to get to a throat punch of

1885
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:11,160
Speaker 1: the week. You know we're going wrong here and you

1886
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 1: guys better appreciate us going along. So Sam sko Field

1887
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 1: rights to us. Hey guys, my name is Sam Scofield

1888
01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 1: and I've been listening for a while down here in Australia,

1889
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 1: which I think is awesome. It's so cool to know,

1890
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, what areas we had. It's so sick listening

1891
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 1: to all the war stories you Americans have. You guys

1892
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 1: get into a lot of the action that Australia either

1893
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 1: isn't a part of or as regular civilians just don't

1894
01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:36,880
Speaker 1: know that we were a part of any chance you

1895
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: guys of you guys shedding some light on what our

1896
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:43,880
Speaker 1: Australian Special Forces to Commando Regiment and s A s

1897
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 1: A s A s R are all about and your

1898
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,960
Speaker 1: experiences from working with them. We hear a lot of

1899
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 1: comments about how badass the asses are and there's a

1900
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: wide selection of books written about AUSSEE Special Forces units

1901
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 1: and operators in Afghanistan, and I rock, but it would

1902
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 1: be cool to hear a story or two of your

1903
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:05,120
Speaker 1: experiences with them. Recently, the media and public here in

1904
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:08,480
Speaker 1: Australia have been shooting on our essays are and commandos

1905
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 1: for possible war crimes, which majority to me, seemed to

1906
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: be occurrences that are a part of the job in

1907
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: lack of in lack for a better term, and are

1908
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:20,799
Speaker 1: something people can truly only understand from being in their shoes.

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01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 1: We even have a commando convicted of murder or something

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01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 1: along those lines who cleared a room in Afghanistan with

1911
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 1: the grenade because there was gunfire coming from within that room. However,

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01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:34,200
Speaker 1: women and kids were also killed in the incident. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but said, but as said, and unfortunate as this is,

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Speaker 1: if there's gunfire coming from that room, to me, there

1915
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 1: seems to be nothing wrong with what this operator has done.

1916
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 1: It was simply watching out for his own and his

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01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 1: mates lives, and this terrorist I'm sure would have well

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01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 1: known that these women and children would have been at

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01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: risk at fire by firing, by him firing from that room.

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Speaker 1: It's it sucks that operators can be sentenced with murder.

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01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 1: For an armchair critic who I have no doubt has

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01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 1: never seen action in their entire life. Very true. Thanks

1923
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 1: for the awesome work you guys do a soft rep

1924
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 1: especially Ian forgetting all this stuff out to us. You're

1925
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,840
Speaker 1: a true professional and badass radio dude. Thank you very much, sir.

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01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:17,760
Speaker 1: And listening to Jason Delgado is so sick man. From

1927
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 1: what I can tell, he's a great dude. I'm about

1928
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 1: to smash out his book. Keep it up. Cheers, Sam Scofield. Sam,

1929
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: interesting question, but more so, interesting dilemma you bring up.

1930
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:36,640
Speaker 1: Let's talk about war. Let's talk about combat. There's no

1931
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:41,800
Speaker 1: gray area in combat. It's positive, it's negative. It's either

1932
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:46,439
Speaker 1: you live, it's either you die, and all of your

1933
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:51,360
Speaker 1: decisions are made in that black and white spectrum. I

1934
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:54,040
Speaker 1: explained this before, so let me go a little bit

1935
01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 1: more in depth. As an individual that went into a

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01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,840
Speaker 1: siege of a country initially Iraq two thousand and three,

1937
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:09,000
Speaker 1: as opposed to what is currently going on over there,

1938
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 1: it is a night and day difference when you're taking

1939
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:14,479
Speaker 1: over the country, when you're at war, when you're at

1940
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 1: a life of death situation, when your heart is racing,

1941
01:46:16,760 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: when you know you're you're fighting an opponent that or

1942
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 1: fighting someone or addressing someone that their very goal is

1943
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: to kill you, is to send you straight to your maker.

1944
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 1: There is nothing else you can do other than kill

1945
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:38,440
Speaker 1: him before he kills you. And it's that split second decision,

1946
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 1: that that that conditioned response from training, from the mental process,

1947
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,879
Speaker 1: and that warrior mentality that will keep you alive because

1948
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 1: you cannot and I repeat this, you cannot and must

1949
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:57,679
Speaker 1: not hesitate on the trigger, hesitate on the very violence

1950
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 1: of action that will bring you home to your of

1951
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:04,439
Speaker 1: ones at the end of the day. Fuck them. It's

1952
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 1: about you and your family and your nation. So that

1953
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:11,280
Speaker 1: being said, if in fact, there was live fire coming

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01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: from the room in the situation you quoted, and this

1955
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,519
Speaker 1: individual threw a grenade in there, and that's what his

1956
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:20,440
Speaker 1: training called for, or even better, that's what his instinct

1957
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:25,679
Speaker 1: called for in that situation, and he lived to tell

1958
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: the story. You know what they say, I'd rather be

1959
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 1: judged by twelve than carried by six. At the end

1960
01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:36,840
Speaker 1: of the day, I'm gonna eat my justice pie. But

1961
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 1: guess what, I'm still fucking eating and then I'm gonna

1962
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 1: shift it out at the end of the day. The

1963
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 1: other guy, I'm sorry, he's maggot food At the end

1964
01:47:45,360 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 1: of the day, it's about you coming home to the

1965
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 1: people that love you. And it's hard. And I'm you know,

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01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 1: I've heard it several times before, I've even quoted it once.

1967
01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 1: You know, matters of taste. Matters of taste come second

1968
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 1: to war, to aggression, to emotion. Okay, so when it

1969
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 1: comes to trying to stay alive, it's hard to even express.

1970
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,800
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to gather the words to to

1971
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:22,639
Speaker 1: just let you guys know that, fuck that. It's hard

1972
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:25,679
Speaker 1: to just say it, funk that I'm coming home. You're

1973
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 1: gonna die if you're coming after me or I'm coming

1974
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:30,840
Speaker 1: after you. And I know you're a quote unquote bad guy.

1975
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 1: In my brief and my answer, you just have to

1976
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 1: trust the process, trust intelligence process, trust whatever you're given.

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01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 1: The reason why he's at that door in the first

1978
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 1: place must have been some bad ship. Now, all the naysayers,

1979
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,200
Speaker 1: all the guys like you said that the armchair what

1980
01:48:44,280 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 1: do you call it, quarterbacks, arm chair quarterbacks, something like

1981
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 1: arm chair critics, they've never been in that situation. In fact,

1982
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,680
Speaker 1: let me tell you something that you guys have a

1983
01:48:55,840 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 1: luxury of being civilians, Okay, being here at home. You

1984
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:03,760
Speaker 1: have the luxury of rebeling. Uh, just swimming in the

1985
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 1: gray area. Okay. Even in conflict, if you bump it

1986
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:12,560
Speaker 1: to someone in the street and you feel that that

1987
01:49:12,920 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 1: interaction was somewhat negative or aggressive towards you, you always

1988
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 1: have the option to turn the other cheek and walk away.

1989
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:25,800
Speaker 1: That's the gray area. In combat, bro, you don't have

1990
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 1: that option. If someone's coming after you, it's to murder you.

1991
01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 1: If someone bumps into you, it's to kill you. So

1992
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Sit there and die or

1993
01:49:37,560 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 1: kill in return? That's it. You guys will never understand

1994
01:49:42,200 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 1: that unless you lived in that life, live or die.

1995
01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:49,439
Speaker 1: It's simple. So that being said. As far as the

1996
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 1: sas and and what they are not essay because it

1997
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 1: is say yes, let me tell you they're they're out there, okay.

1998
01:49:54,360 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 1: As far as as far as the Australian commandos, I means,

1999
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,360
Speaker 1: are you know s A s R. And also you

2000
01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:04,120
Speaker 1: have you also have um, you know the second command

2001
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:06,320
Speaker 1: of regiment for whatever you know, you have a bunch

2002
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:08,840
Speaker 1: of the command of regiments. You're out there. You have

2003
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, you have your own heroes, you have your

2004
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,560
Speaker 1: own warriors. I mean guys that have proven themselves in Afghanistan,

2005
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 1: you know, like um, Cameron Bart, Corporal Cameron Bart. I mean,

2006
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 1: look at him, where do you think he died If

2007
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 1: he didn't die in in Afghanistan? I mean, you know,

2008
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: he he did work, He put in work, and that's

2009
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:28,880
Speaker 1: what you have to be proud of. As far as

2010
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,120
Speaker 1: your guys coming out and talking about it and writing

2011
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 1: books about it, I'm not sure You're gonna have to

2012
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:36,479
Speaker 1: probably look in the legalities of their employment or their

2013
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 1: um their actual uh term in within your military, and

2014
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 1: maybe they're not allowed to talk about this. Maybe they're

2015
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 1: not allowed like us, we're not allowed for eight years

2016
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 1: to speak about what we've done in the military, obligated

2017
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: after those eight years were allowed to come out and

2018
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,760
Speaker 1: write books and so on and so forth. So you know, uh,

2019
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,519
Speaker 1: you know, America kind of gives us that that leniency,

2020
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 1: that that that what do you call it? Transparency, the

2021
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:04,680
Speaker 1: ability to be transparent with our citizens. You know, it's

2022
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:07,599
Speaker 1: that freedom of information thing, you know what I mean. Um,

2023
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 1: But as far as that's if you don't see enough

2024
01:51:10,880 --> 01:51:12,840
Speaker 1: of that in Australia, maybe that has something to do

2025
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 1: with it. But the fact that you got you think

2026
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:17,599
Speaker 1: the guys are not out there putting in work. You're

2027
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 1: highly mistaken. And I know for a fact coming back

2028
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: from Kabul just recently, like I said in April, I've

2029
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 1: been out there for a little over a year, so

2030
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:29,599
Speaker 1: um this last reason deployment. And I see Australians out

2031
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:31,520
Speaker 1: there all the time, but they're more in a diplomatic

2032
01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 1: um setting, but they're patrolling with their diplomats out in Kabul,

2033
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 1: out in the city, out of the i Z. So

2034
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 1: they're out there. You guys are out there. You're part

2035
01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 1: of NATO. You guys are holding down your obligations, You're

2036
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,920
Speaker 1: you're putting in work. So don't downplay your fucking Special

2037
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,479
Speaker 1: Forces just because you're not hearing about them. You know,

2038
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 1: maybe a you've got more silent professionals than we do.

2039
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's a bad thing or a

2040
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:54,519
Speaker 1: good thing. You know. You know how I feel about that.

2041
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: We talked about this um but maybe they are obligated

2042
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:01,160
Speaker 1: not to speak, so you know, just give that. But

2043
01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 1: your guys have put it in work. Be proud of

2044
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 1: your fucking SF guys. Sometimes it's also just the market

2045
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 1: in America for these type of things is bigger than

2046
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 1: overseas something you know in some countries, maybe it is

2047
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 1: I And from what I understand, Australia has a very

2048
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: strict gun laws. You know what they do. So maybe

2049
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: your society, your government in general, is an extremely liberal

2050
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:24,760
Speaker 1: one where you know it's you know, it's you know,

2051
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:26,720
Speaker 1: lived by our code or not, you know, one of

2052
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 1: those things, but you know, and then through that, you know,

2053
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:31,880
Speaker 1: certain things like information restrictions and all that stuff come

2054
01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:34,040
Speaker 1: come down the pipeline. But your guys are out there.

2055
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:36,320
Speaker 1: I've seen them, and you know, like I said, I

2056
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 1: just quoted one of your guys that just died over there,

2057
01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,719
Speaker 1: you know, and you know it's sucking sick warrior everybody.

2058
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 1: You know the story. I think they're gonna make a

2059
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:45,880
Speaker 1: book about his story. Actually, to take the truth from

2060
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:48,719
Speaker 1: what I heard, they're making a book or a movie

2061
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 1: about him. So look into that, and that'll give you

2062
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 1: the pride you're looking for, right, Awesome man. The only

2063
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 1: thing I could add to that epic, rent is you

2064
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: might have start I was googling or as you were speaking,

2065
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 1: because what you said reminds me of that famous George

2066
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 1: as Patent quote, and I wanted to make sure I

2067
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:08,439
Speaker 1: got the quote, right is uh, I want you to

2068
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 1: remember that no, no bastard ever won a war by

2069
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:13,680
Speaker 1: dying for his country. He wanted by making the other,

2070
01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: poor dumb bastard died for his country. That's it. At

2071
01:53:17,320 --> 01:53:18,840
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you guys have to look

2072
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,519
Speaker 1: at the bigger picture. It's about who's got the fucking

2073
01:53:21,560 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 1: bigger stick and who's who's who has the balls to

2074
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 1: go out and get what they want. You know, it

2075
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 1: gets to a certain point where we could be as

2076
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 1: diplomatic as every liberal out here wants us to be.

2077
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,759
Speaker 1: And it's cool in a utopic society. But the problem

2078
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 1: with utopia is humanity. I already said this. You know,

2079
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 1: the issue with humanity in general is that for every

2080
01:53:46,600 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 1: good guy, you have a bad guy. You know, you

2081
01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 1: have that guy that's gonna do whatever it takes to

2082
01:53:53,760 --> 01:53:58,879
Speaker 1: acquire wealth, to acquire esteem, and that means even possibly

2083
01:53:59,040 --> 01:54:03,240
Speaker 1: you know by you know, ominous means and and and

2084
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 1: and hear me out here, this is this is to clarify.

2085
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,519
Speaker 1: There are three types of people in this world. All right,

2086
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:15,000
Speaker 1: there's wolves, and there's sheep, and then there's sheep dogs. Okay,

2087
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 1: if you look at it, if you break it down.

2088
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:20,840
Speaker 1: The wolves are those guys. The wolves are the guys that,

2089
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:25,439
Speaker 1: no matter what, they're gonna kill babies, They're gonna, you know,

2090
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 1: wipe out ethnically cleansed their own countries. They're gonna do

2091
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:34,680
Speaker 1: all this heinous ship to other humans. And then you

2092
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: have the sheep, which are those humans at these heinous

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Speaker 1: acts are being conducted on. These are grazers of grass.

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Speaker 1: These are vegetarians. He's are you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, as you know, just basically highlighting

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Speaker 1: who we're talking about. Who we're talking about civilians, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about you guys that rebel in the gray. You're

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Speaker 1: fucking sheep, okay, at the end of the day. And

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Speaker 1: then we have sheep dogs. Those are your law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: Those are your freaking military personnel. Those are your firefighters,

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Speaker 1: those are your those are of people that face danger. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sheep dogs are pack animals. Sheep dogs are aggressive, al right,

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Speaker 1: Sheep dogs bark loudly, all right, they eat meat. But

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Speaker 1: by God's strength, they do love those sheep and they

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Speaker 1: will protect those sheep. And it's because of those goddamn

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Speaker 1: sheep dogs. You sheep are allowed to eat your grass.

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Speaker 1: Remember that, So don't chastise your sheep dogs. It's it's

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Speaker 1: because guys like me, you're able to go and do

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Speaker 1: whatever the hell you want to do in this world.

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Speaker 1: Remember that we have to keep that line of defense.

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Speaker 1: And we'll wrap up a throw punch of the week,

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Speaker 1: which I know you want to give to uh the

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Speaker 1: U c l A Basketball players stealing in China, which

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Speaker 1: is a pretty bonehead move, to say the least. So obviously,

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Speaker 1: in the wake of Donald's Trump's visit to China, where

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Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump nailed, Donald Trump nailed, you had

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Speaker 1: his granddaughter singing to the President of China, you know,

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Speaker 1: in Mandarin Chinese, like you know what I mean, This

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Speaker 1: is classical. This is classical royalty ship. The way I

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Speaker 1: see it, it really is like you know, it's it's

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Speaker 1: showing our appreciation for what the Chinese government has done

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Speaker 1: and so and so forth. Is that extending that olive branch,

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Speaker 1: you know, something so epic like this is I think

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be an epic moment that you know,

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Speaker 1: will be in the times and you know, several years

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Speaker 1: from now. I think that it's that big. But something

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Speaker 1: so beautiful that occurred, you know, something that could have

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Speaker 1: been a great moment. You got these freaking bone headsle

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Speaker 1: Angelo Ball, you know which she's on reality shows now,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, le Angelo Ball. You got

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Speaker 1: Cody Riley, Jalen Hill. You know, You've got these guys

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Speaker 1: doing what they're staying in his nice fancy mix schmancy

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Speaker 1: you know, Chinese hotel. They go to the Louis Vatton store,

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Speaker 1: I believe, and they try to steal shades from the

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Speaker 1: Louis Vatton store. You know, Okay, whatever they might have

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Speaker 1: thought they were being cute, may me, they weren't doing

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01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 1: it because they were you know, goddamn well, they don't know.

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Speaker 1: Stealing in China is not like stealing in America. They

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Speaker 1: have no clue, no clue of the freedoms they enjoy

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Speaker 1: in America. Like the judicial system is really somewhat of

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Speaker 1: a joke over here. It's not like stealing. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's a freedom But I know what you mean, dude,

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Speaker 1: It's like like you go to fucking Thailand and you

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Speaker 1: you you you freaking what was that kid that did

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Speaker 1: the graffiti and Thailand and he had to get Kane

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Speaker 1: remember that way back way back in the day, Like

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Speaker 1: you get Kane for graffiti. Oh way here, you're lucky

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Speaker 1: if you even get a fine for graffiti. But that's

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Speaker 1: my point, the ignorance of this millennial generation. You know,

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Speaker 1: do you know David Show, the artist, great artist by

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Speaker 1: the naight um he talked about, you know, he's Korean

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Speaker 1: of Korean descent, he's American, but he uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: he was a like wild kid before he became this

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Speaker 1: millionaire artist. And he stole a bike in Japan and

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Speaker 1: he was like, I got treated like ship because I

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Speaker 1: was Korean. You know, so a lot of it is

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Speaker 1: Asian culture. You know. Still still the bike in America,

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01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 1: not a big deal. Stealing the bike in Japan. China.

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Speaker 1: You know, what I want to say is your respect

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Speaker 1: to China, kudos because you know what they're doing to

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Speaker 1: those three fucking fools. They just gotta stay in there

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Speaker 1: goddamn hotel, hopefully at the college's expense, and I hope

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Speaker 1: they run up the biggest fucking bill that USC has

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Speaker 1: ever seen. All right, at their expense. They're they're holding

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Speaker 1: up up in the hotel to the judicial system in

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Speaker 1: China goes through. Tell me that's not in comparison to

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Speaker 1: what happened to Otto warm Beer in the Republic of

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Speaker 1: North Korea. Isn't that like a slap on the wrist?

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Speaker 1: Otto warm Beer stole a damn poster, another fucking idiot.

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Speaker 1: But what happened to him was unjust. You know, he

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Speaker 1: got arrested, mistreated, abused, and murdered. They murdered the Republic

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Speaker 1: of North Korea. Murdered. Yeah, he came back dead. That

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Speaker 1: means he was murdered. He was killed because through negligence,

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Speaker 1: through whatever the intentional, it doesn't matter. He was murdered

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Speaker 1: in the Republic of North Korea for stealing a post there.

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Speaker 1: You know, we want to talk about all those guys

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Speaker 1: that are, you know, resisting arrest over here and getting

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Speaker 1: fighting police officers, you might catch a bullet if you're

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Speaker 1: you're you're scaring someone with a gun. Alright, Police are

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Speaker 1: human too. They get scared, okay, and if they feel

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Speaker 1: that you could potentially kill them, you know, the conflict happened.

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Speaker 1: The speed of conflict is faster than anything that could

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Speaker 1: ever fucking happen in this world. The speed of conflict

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Speaker 1: is like that. That means someone pulling out a gun,

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Speaker 1: squeezing the trigger and putting a bullet through your chest.

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Speaker 1: Police deal with that every damn day in this nation. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and we're alway here complaining about that. But this man

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Speaker 1: literally died for trying to steal a poster in the

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Speaker 1: Republic of North Korea in China. That's how classy are

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Speaker 1: they dealing with the situation. Stay in your hotel, Stay

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Speaker 1: in your damn hotel? Are you kidding me? And then

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Speaker 1: the way through the diplomatic You know what, I don't

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Speaker 1: care what happens to these three fools. They need to

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Speaker 1: learn a life a life lesson as men, They need

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Speaker 1: to be humble ized's and they get the what a

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Speaker 1: I mean we went well over two hours here. You

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Speaker 1: know what, it was a really really good episode. And

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Speaker 1: like I said, I learned I love learning ship that

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Speaker 1: I don't know and Derek killed it. Man really really

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Speaker 1: you know who I'm psyched for coming up in a

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Speaker 1: couple of episodes, Rob ONeill coming back. Yes, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be awesome. Oh and are the fourteen we have Joel Ortega? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and this is a surprise for yes. Episode three hundred

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Speaker 1: a surprise for you guys. Joel Ortega is someone that

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Speaker 1: Sniper community that I didn't even know. Damn, that's crazy

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Speaker 1: because he schooled me on a lot of things as

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Speaker 1: far as the you know, our lineage or should I say,

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