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Speaker 2: to a majority draw Saturday night. It doesn't look like

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Speaker 2: he's too pleased with that, and there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of people on social media that actually thought he won

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Speaker 2: that fight. Joining us. Lamont, Roach Junior Lamont, How you doing, bro?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 1: I'm good man. Thanks for having me. I feel real good.

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Speaker 2: No, thanks for having thanks for joining us. Take us

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Speaker 2: through Saturday night. You go into that fight, you move

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Speaker 2: up five pounds, you're one to thirty five, and you

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Speaker 2: move up and you feeling, I mean, everybody's that man

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Speaker 2: ain't No, he got no chance. Tank told you a

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Speaker 2: couple of days earlier. He goes, hey, you're not going

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Speaker 2: in the distance, y'all shake for a little with two fifty.

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Speaker 2: Whatever the case may be. You go into that fight.

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Speaker 2: You know tanks a slow starter. Builds up as the

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Speaker 2: fight progresses. Know he's trying to land hook to the body,

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Speaker 2: come up top with it. What was your process, What

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Speaker 2: were going into that fight, how did you want to fight?

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Speaker 2: And did the fight turn out the way you thought

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Speaker 5: Honestly, yeah, the fight. The fight went exactly how we

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Speaker 5: planned it to go, honestly. You know, Uh, we're familiar

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Speaker 1: Uh. We just knew it was a matter of time

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Speaker 5: And back to the whole everybody not giving me a

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Speaker 5: shot saying I'm gonna gett knocked.

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Speaker 1: Out and all this and all that. I know what

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Speaker 1: I'm capable of, and I know what I could do.

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Speaker 5: Like they just in the nutshell they had they had

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Speaker 1: And especially when he bet me saying he's gonna stop me?

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Speaker 6: What do?

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Speaker 1: I told him himself, I said, you tripping?

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Speaker 5: I said, I don't know what got into your head

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Speaker 1: Of a man who like grew with him.

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Speaker 5: I knew that he'd you know, revert to that when

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Speaker 5: And you know what I'm saying, he ain't been in

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Speaker 7: I got right, So what I thought obviously watching the fight,

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Speaker 7: But I'm looking at you. They get the round six

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Speaker 7: you not even moving. So at that point, y'all mid

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Speaker 7: the time when he hits somebody, they retreat, but you

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Speaker 8: I'm like, what he boy, he boy, going at it.

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Speaker 7: I'm like, so did the power not affect you in

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Speaker 8: Did you not care at all? Or did you feel

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Speaker 5: Really one word about it. So it wasn't that I

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Speaker 5: I was cautious. But the but the defense, the defense

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Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, Like I see why

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Speaker 5: So it's like it's it's nothing. It was nothing new

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Speaker 5: So it's like, you know what I'm saying, Like I

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Speaker 7: Right, So listen, in the ninth round, I'm sorry, you know,

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Speaker 7: I you know, I get it. I don't mean to

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Speaker 7: take over. Listen, hey, young boy. And in the ninth round,

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Speaker 7: you know, Jamonte took a knee. Obviously there's some controversy

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Speaker 7: I've never seen that ever. And then my years of

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna say no, and let me tell you why.

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Speaker 5: The simple fact that he took the knee is is

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Speaker 5: it was really a boost because it's like, all right,

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Speaker 5: it's all right.

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Speaker 1: What we're doing is working. We know that he's looking

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Speaker 1: for some It should have been a knock down one.

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Speaker 5: So that's why I'm yelling at the referee, like, keep counting,

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Speaker 5: like you tripping, keep counting. That's a knock then, because

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Speaker 5: if y'all didn't notice he started to count, he started

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Speaker 1: Then he starts he stopped.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So so when we he was the action, I'm like,

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Speaker 5: That's cause for it. That's that's the wave at all.

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Speaker 5: He took a knee and then turned around and went

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Speaker 1: Oh ain't.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching you a lot of times when when people

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he happy go.

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Speaker 5: Lucky with his left and and been working for his

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Speaker 5: we've been training, we've been sitting on the left being

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Speaker 5: Dudes wasn't really really cracking him back, and I was

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Speaker 2: But it meant you met fire with fire when And

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Speaker 5: Don't watch them a lot. I'm just so, I just

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Speaker 1: I like watching good fights, so I do know some

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Speaker 7: Mmkay, hey, listen, Tank Tank his publicly express interest obviously

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Speaker 8: You want to rematch as well?

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Speaker 7: Are you open to immediate rematch or do you have

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Speaker 7: a you don't need a tune up, but do you

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Speaker 7: have a tune up fight? Just to just to keep

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Speaker 5: Media immediate and just to let y'all know, like in

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Speaker 5: my contract, immediate rematch was signed. I signed for the

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Speaker 5: in case he lost or just in case it was

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Speaker 1: So they put that clause in there. They put a

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Speaker 8: Okay, So when you got a rematch clause? How long

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Speaker 8: we taken? How long is the break before you start

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 8: Is it six months from now?

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Speaker 5: That was up to the in side and when they

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Speaker 5: I'm hoping it's gonna be soon.

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Speaker 1: Let's say that.

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Speaker 7: what is soon to you? I mean when you say

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Speaker 4: I know that.

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking.

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking July. I'm thinking okay.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, Lamar, I

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Speaker 2: think I read something that he reached out to Loma

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Speaker 2: see did you read that?

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Speaker 1: Did you see that? But he can't he gotta he

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 1: And if it is. If it is true, then you

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Speaker 1: know that would be funny.

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Speaker 5: But I'm pretty sure the rematch happens, and I'm pretty

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Speaker 5: sure that's the next fight for both of us.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well, let me ask you this. Would you

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Speaker 2: be interested? Go ahead? I'm just would you be interested

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Speaker 1: Hold up chair?

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Speaker 6: Chad?

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Speaker 1: How much?

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Speaker 8: Hey?

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Speaker 2: Put pauls on it?

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Speaker 1: Hey, Chad? I mean, hey, if I don't know, if

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Speaker 1: you've seen me fight Sat, I really do this?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would there, I would. I listened. I've been

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Speaker 1: Okay, I can listen.

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Speaker 8: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I don't have the time, but I could.

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Speaker 7: Tell your tendencies right now round one through seven. Okay,

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Speaker 7: so we was getting there and SPA right now. I

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Speaker 8: You're gonna faink. You know it ain't the keys. But listen,

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Speaker 8: I've been studying you.

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Speaker 6: I know you.

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Speaker 8: So if you want to SPA at any point, if

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Speaker 1: For the next fight, I think I've seen you work yourself.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got hands, ain't got

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Speaker 8: Ain't got no lamar. Listen they hey lamar. Where I'm from,

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Speaker 8: they call me Hella hands. Yeah, they called me headlands.

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Speaker 8: But listen.

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Speaker 7: Reflecting on your performance right in that fight, bro, I

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Speaker 8: Everything you did you executed from round one all the

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Speaker 8: and you put on a show like that, what aspects

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Speaker 8: I mean, like, what's how many how do you improve

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Speaker 7: Because if you would have grade your performance that night,

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Speaker 7: you get an a plush.

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Speaker 2: So when do you go back?

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Speaker 8: What do you go back and work on after putting

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Speaker 8: on a goddamn show like that?

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Speaker 1: Man, just just just going on.

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Speaker 5: See my thing is I always want to get better

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Speaker 1: I just go back and watch the tape and see

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Speaker 5: Obviously, if whatever he comes with the next one, that

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Speaker 5: we just gotta still capitalize. We're gonna add too. What worse,

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Speaker 5: if it ain't, if it ain't broke, don't fix. But

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Speaker 5: we're gonna just we're gonna add to it. We're gonna build.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna build. We're gonna build.

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Speaker 1: Might try to, you know, make it up so we

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Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm saying. No, no, no, that's

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Speaker 7: Hey, that's how Yeah yeah, well your condition was on point, bro.

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Speaker 1: Old school fifteen year old fight over here, man, for real?

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Speaker 1: For sure? I was in camp fourteen rounds.

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Speaker 8: Wait with time and no time?

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Speaker 1: No with time for sure? With time?

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Speaker 8: Okay, okay, okay, okay, ok ok okay, okay, okay, cause

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Speaker 6: Shah.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get you in camp. Maybe you can get

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Speaker 1: me ready for the rematch.

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Speaker 8: Ay, matter of fact, bring me the camp. I ain't

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Speaker 8: gonna charge I ain't. I ain't gonna charge you. You

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Speaker 8: are you?

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Speaker 1: Four rounds?

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Speaker 8: I let somebody else go forward and.

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Speaker 6: Not come back for another exchange.

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Speaker 1: No robbery.

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Speaker 2: I like that, all right? Bet man, Lamon, will you

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Speaker 2: put Pauls on the game. Don't beat him up too

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Speaker 2: bad because I need it. I need it for the

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Speaker 2: night camp. I wanted to come back, talk about slurring.

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Speaker 2: I don't want him to come back he gonna.

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Speaker 1: Be all he's gonna be I think I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be all right.

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Speaker 2: You getting body blows, don't don't. Anybody's dead. You can't

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Speaker 2: body blows.

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Speaker 6: I'm good.

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Speaker 8: I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. My defense, my defense

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Speaker 2: A lot of times when guys win and they get

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Speaker 2: improve a pun and that they run into a problem

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Speaker 2: because you had a draw. Can you go back and say,

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Speaker 2: you know what, in this situation here, I should have

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Speaker 2: did this instead of that, and I might have been

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Speaker 2: and so you're like, well, I didn't get to win.

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Speaker 2: I didn't lose technically, but I didn't win either. And

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Speaker 2: I think as a fighter, you know, draws and times

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Speaker 2: that ain't what we do it for. We want to

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Speaker 2: be win, we want to be on the top spot.

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Speaker 2: And because you didn't land on the top spot, you

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Speaker 2: feel that, you know what, go back and watch this

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Speaker 2: fight through twelve rounds. Maybe if I pick it up

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Speaker 2: round or two that I win, and we don't even

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Speaker 2: have this discussion at the end because it looked like

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Speaker 2: he would which is sad.

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Speaker 5: Honestly, So to me, I thought I wanted to fight. Clearly,

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Speaker 5: I thought I want a close fight. I thought I

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Speaker 5: want a very competitive fight. I'm not saying I steamrolled

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Speaker 5: to fight now. Granted, ninth round should have been called

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Speaker 5: a knockdown, two judges on the official score cards gave

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Speaker 5: him the round ten to nine. If that was a knockdown,

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Speaker 5: I went around ten eight. That's a three point swing.

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Speaker 5: I would win a unanimous decision. So you gotta take

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Speaker 5: all of that into account. It's three things that could

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Speaker 5: have happened in that ninth round alone, with that knee,

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Speaker 5: it could have been a ten eight round scored a knockdown,

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Speaker 5: could have been a disqualification, or I could have won

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Speaker 5: by TKL. So, honestly, when you look at that and

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Speaker 5: you say I got a draw against the number one

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Speaker 5: spectacle in America, a pound for pound talent, and a

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Speaker 5: and like, Okay, if you got to draw, more than

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Speaker 5: likely use was to win that night. So even though

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Speaker 5: I didn't get to win, I'm not a moral victory guy.

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Speaker 5: I'm pissed that I didn't win, honestly, right, exactly, I

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Speaker 5: pissed that I didn't win. But I really think that

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Speaker 5: that I should have. A lot of people think that

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Speaker 5: I should have, and the rematch is just gonna make

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Speaker 5: it worse for him because I gotta rip it up,

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Speaker 5: Like you said, I gotta do something.

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Speaker 1: I gotta do something. I gotta pick it up somewhere

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Speaker 1: to turn this around and make it a victory for me.

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Speaker 2: Lamont, you're moving up from super featherweight to lightweight. Were

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Speaker 2: you afraid that moving up might rob you or some

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Speaker 2: of the pot, because that's you know, normally guys that

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Speaker 2: move up they lose some the steam. Were you concerned

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Speaker 2: about that? Are you gonna stay? Are you gonna stand

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Speaker 2: maybe go one thirty five one even higher?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: One thing that one thirty five gave me is a

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Speaker 5: lot more steam. I ain't gonna allow five less pounds

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Speaker 5: I had to lose, so.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, So what do you normally walk around

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Speaker 2: at Lamont normally?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 5: I want to say if fifty, especially if I'm in

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Speaker 5: the gym now, no, no, I walk around like one

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Speaker 5: fifty uh somewhere around one c one forty nine on

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Speaker 5: a good day. If I'm on vacation, I don't get

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Speaker 5: no higher than fifty five.

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Speaker 2: So okay, okay, so you so I think that works.

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Speaker 2: I think that's one of the things that helped Floyd

444
00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,920
Speaker 2: Mayweather because Floyda is not a naturally big man. So

445
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 2: it was easy for him to stay at one forty

446
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 2: seven because Florida only walking around it like what begin with,

447
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 2: So he goes for six eight weeks, he lose five pounds.

448
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 1: That's its sweet spot for sure.

449
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:54,800
Speaker 6: Sure.

450
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,240
Speaker 2: And that's another thing with you. It's not like you're

451
00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 2: walking around one sixty five sixty one sixty five and

452
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 2: you got to strip down thirty five thirty pounds. You

453
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 2: only having to come down teen, maybe even fifteen pounds

454
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,840
Speaker 2: out of max. So that's a lot, that's not that's

455
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 2: not that drastic where you see these guys have to

456
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 2: go through this massive dehydration in order to make weight.

457
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 2: Because man, you keep doing that fluctu weight in your body. Man,

458
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 2: it takes something out of here.

459
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 1: That's it takes a toll on you for sure.

460
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Speaker 7: Hey, listen, after a fight like this, how much time

461
00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 7: do y'all take off, Like I mean, before you get

462
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 7: back in and gradually just start building yourself back, not

463
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Speaker 7: only in the shape, but just making sure you don't

464
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Speaker 7: lose that rhythm and consistency.

465
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Speaker 5: It's tough, man, especially how boxing is today. That's more

466
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 5: so like a personal So me personally, I don't like

467
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 5: being out the gym too long. I get cussed out

468
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Speaker 5: by my a doctor because he tells me to take

469
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Speaker 5: a break, you know what I'm saying. So then I

470
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 5: understand because your body do need to heal rest. I've

471
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Speaker 5: been through an eight week training camp and then went

472
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 5: through a hard twelve round fight, so you know, uh,

473
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 5: you know, got to get your body together, take some

474
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Speaker 5: time off. Because when you peak, when you peak, and

475
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 5: you peak at the right time, and I think I

476
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 5: peaked at the perfect time on Saturday night, it's you know,

477
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 5: it depletes you.

478
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Speaker 1: So I get a little rest. I get a little rest,

479
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Speaker 1: probably like two weeks.

480
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Speaker 5: I want to be back in the gym one because

481
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 5: I probably get you heavy, and I'm like, I don't

482
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Speaker 5: feel I don't feel right, right, I'll be bored.

483
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 1: I normally be in the gym.

484
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Speaker 6: So that's where we.

485
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Speaker 1: Live at Slay in DC.

486
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, make a little trip down there, man, whenever

487
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 7: you get back in the gym and you want to

488
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 7: start a sparring, I'm gonna come down there.

489
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Speaker 6: And I got I gotta loved. I got a bad man, Chad.

490
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 6: I don't know, I know, I know I'm a bad

491
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Speaker 6: man too.

492
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Speaker 4: That's what a teacher called me when the last I

493
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 4: got a little bit for you.

494
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Speaker 8: Right, We're gonna do eight rounds.

495
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 1: Right, We're gonna do eight rounds.

496
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: You get Yeah, we're.

497
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Speaker 8: Gonna do eight Yeah, if you can, if you can

498
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 8: beat me, yeah, at least four rounds.

499
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Speaker 7: Now, you know Lebron James, he just scored fifty thousand points, right,

500
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 7: he said, he sent me the ball.

501
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 8: If you can beat me, if you can win more

502
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 8: rounds than me, I seen this ball he gave you.

503
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: Right now, we're gonna set that up.

504
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: You would take that ball, Get that ball of up, okay,

505
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: right on top of the bell.

506
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 8: Okay, matter of fact, I'm gonna make it easy for you.

507
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 8: I'm only using my jab man.

508
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 1: Man, you giving you give it, you're giving it away?

509
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 8: Nah, I mean, listen, I can I can take what

510
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 8: I'm doing still win. That's what I do.

511
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: I told you they call me, you're giving the prize away.

512
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: Lebron ain't gonna like that.

513
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 8: Oh no, you ain't gonna get that. You think I'm

514
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 8: You think I'm gonna lose you and and lose that ball.

515
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 6: Is a lot.

516
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: Hey let me let me let me ask you this

517
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: a little bit after the tank fight? Who would you

518
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: like to fight out fight after tank? Are you gonna stay?

519
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 2: Are you gonna go? Are you gonna stay? If you

520
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 2: if you go back, if you rematch, you beat tank

521
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 2: it one thirty five? Are you gonna stay at one

522
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: thirty five or slide back down to one thirty or

523
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 2: go up even to one forty.

524
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Speaker 5: It depends on what's available. If the champions at thirty

525
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 5: five are available, I want to fight them.

526
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: I want to unify. Obviously, that's good for my career.

527
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: It's like legacy fights.

528
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 5: And on top of that, they big money fights money

529
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Speaker 5: if they're not If they're not available, I will go

530
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 5: definitely defend my title at thirty and probably try to

531
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Speaker 5: unify there because.

532
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: I can make thirty comfortably, and.

533
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Speaker 5: I feel like I run that division like I probably

534
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 5: can even go undisputed if they let.

535
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: Me, because I'm lama being a student of the game.

536
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: I know you've heard your dad. You weren't around there,

537
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: but I know your dad has told you of whomever

538
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: in your corner about the Four Kings. Hearns Hagler, Durant, Leonard,

539
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: and how they fought each other and all the top contenders,

540
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: and that they fought them. You go back to the seventies,

541
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: you look at the heavyweights. They fought Norton fought our Lee,

542
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: he fought Fraser, he fought for He fought Shavers, he

543
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: fought our Lee, Nobody Duck. Why is it now, Lamont

544
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: that we have guys and they want a cherry pick

545
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: and don't want to take it. Seemed like and I

546
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: love Floyd, but Floyd that fifty and oh, because nobody

547
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: wants to take an ass whipping now because now they

548
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: feel like my legacy is ruined. I lost the fight

549
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 2: some of the great fighters. We don't look at our

550
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 2: Lee because he lost three or four times even when

551
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: he looked bad fighting. Trevor Bourbick, Colar Holmes. We don't

552
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: hold that against him. We don't hold against Leonard, We

553
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,119
Speaker 2: don't hold against Haighlu, We don't hold against Hearns. We

554
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 2: don't hold against nobody. I don't know, and I hate that.

555
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: I love Floyd and I'm glad he's undefeated. But everybody thinks, now,

556
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 2: if I be undefeated, I'm gonna be revered like Floyd,

557
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 2: and it's not going to happen.

558
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: It ain't was one of a kind of fighter, man

559
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: in the caliber.

560
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 5: Even if a lot of people do go undefeated and

561
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 5: retire undefeated, it's not gonna be the same.

562
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 6: Uh.

563
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 5: And it's not gonna be the same because Floyd put

564
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 5: it in his work. Floyd Floyd fought them guys when

565
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 5: when he was able to and stuff. Like everybody, he

566
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 5: forught them guys, and he earned the right to fight

567
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 5: who he wanted to, when he wanted to, whatever the

568
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 5: case may be. He that's that's just a once in

569
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 5: a lifetime fighter. I don't know why the guys are

570
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 5: not ill.

571
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: Maybe I do.

572
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you a little scoop. These guys are

573
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 5: worried about the money that they can make.

574
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,040
Speaker 1: If they told you if they still have an O

575
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: on their record.

576
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 5: They think that a blemish would knock down the value

577
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 5: of their whatever they have in their contract or whatever

578
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 5: they have presented to them, which is, you know, crazy

579
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 5: to me. I think, if you put on a good

580
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 5: enough fight, no matter if you win or lose, the

581
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 5: performances what matters.

582
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: And it's really what matters. So people wanna pay to

583
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: see you fight. If you fight the good fights, that's

584
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: what that's.

585
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: What they're gonna pay.

586
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: Says, They're gonna pay to see it.

587
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 5: That's why payper view numbers used to be so high,

588
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 5: because people are gonna pay.

589
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: They want to see certain fights. They want to see

590
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: them fights.

591
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: Look at Mickey, look at Mickey Warden, Arturo Gotti. That

592
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: was jam Pat lost, didn't matter. People still pay big

593
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 2: money to see that because they know they were gonna

594
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: get action. But now Lamont guys like, you know what, Yeah,

595
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: if I fought Lamont, I can make fifteen mil. But

596
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: if I fight this guy that I know I can whip,

597
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: I can make ten. So why take the chance for

598
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 2: extra five when I can get this can over here

599
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: and I can whip it for ten? So I just

600
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 2: give me a couple I give me five or ten,

601
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: I'll give me five or ten a D ten million

602
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: dollar fight. Why would I need to take a risk

603
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 2: for two of those big fights?

604
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 8: Do that? But then you got to think about that, Lama,

605
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 8: I told uncle to night.

606
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 7: We talked about this too, Right, Not only do certain

607
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 7: people not want to take risks, but you want to

608
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 7: build it up until you get to the really, really

609
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 7: good fight. So if you got like you talk about

610
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 7: the folk kings back then, back in the day, right

611
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 7: and today's, if you got the best boxes right, and

612
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 7: if all the best boxes fight each other right now

613
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 7: and not have fight out the fight at the fight,

614
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 7: and actually you build it so people want to actually

615
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 7: actually want to watch and you can maximize your pay.

616
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 7: That's a little different. Think about how long before Early

617
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 7: and Bud actually four, Look.

618
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 8: How long it took. Look how many fights they had

619
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 8: because they was a build up to it.

620
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 7: So from that standpoint, I kind of get it and

621
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 7: understand you want to maximize your pay. You also nobody

622
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 7: want to lose, but at some point they ain't gonna

623
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 7: have no choice but to fight each other.

624
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: You got time, you got to be right, But think

625
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: about it, and Lama, you know this sugar Ray went

626
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: the one sixty. The flight hide list went up. They

627
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: he didn't come down, they went to him.

628
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: They did because they.

629
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Speaker 2: Very similar one thirty, one thirty five, they went up

630
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: two C. Sugar Ray was one forty seven, went to

631
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 2: one sixty. Packler Herris with one forty seven went to

632
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: one sixty A.

633
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: You're definitely right about that.

634
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: That's middleweight and Ray, Ray.

635
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: And Durant started at thirty five. So yeah, one of

636
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: the most light ways to.

637
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: Ever do it. Yeah, a lot of a lot of

638
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: those guys started, Yes, a lot of those guys started there.

639
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 2: O Joe thirty thirty five, Fort Floyd thirty thirty five,

640
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: forty forty seven, and fort for uh De la Hoya

641
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 2: at fifty four mm hmm, yeah, oh yeah. A lot

642
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 2: of them got yeah and had pop Pacquia the novel

643
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: the pacquyall started at that.

644
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 7: One one six well and blew through and blew through

645
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 7: everything a division champion.

646
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: And you're not gonna see that, even even when you

647
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: look at Armstrong, you look at all those guys, nobody's

648
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: doing this again. Nobody's gonna do that. Yeah, I mean,

649
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: basically you'd have to start it saying you'd have to

650
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: start at like one forty and go to heavyweight to

651
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: to try to clean out of everything the house that

652
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: ain't that has not happening at all. I mean Roy

653
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: come ye, Roy went from sixty sixty eight centy ten.

654
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: Years straight middlewayweight.

655
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: Roy was if Roy had had Roy just stayed there

656
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 2: and not script the muscle that he put on to

657
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 2: go to heavy because I think that took a lot

658
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: out of him. That took too much out of him.

659
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: He probably should have stayed. He probably should have never

660
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: come back down or just took his time. But Roy

661
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: won the title, couldn't get nobody else to fight, gave

662
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 2: the title up and came back down, and he wasn't

663
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: the same after Tarboro beat him that one time. He

664
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: was never the same because he got started getting beat

665
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: by fighters that Roy. Roy would have marked the floor

666
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: inside of five rounds with him. Yeah, so what's next? Tank?

667
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: I mean, excuse me? What's next? All of my what's next?

668
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: After after this tank? After this tank? By you say

669
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: you want to fight whoever the big money fight is?

670
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: Who ate Lomo kill Femo handed Garcia? Who else?

671
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: One thirty five?

672
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 8: Right now?

673
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: Keishaan Davis and Loma Chink.

674
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 5: Okay, that's what that's that's who we're gonna be looking

675
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 5: at after you know what I'm saying, After after I

676
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 5: be tanked, after I be tanking and rematch. Uh you know,

677
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 5: if them guys ain't available, then we gonna go to

678
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 5: thirty and defend my one hundred and thirty pound championship.

679
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 7: So listen, out of those three you just named, who

680
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 7: would you prefer to fight first if you can't get

681
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 7: all three, if if you had a preference.

682
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 5: If I had a preference, I don't really got a

683
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 5: preference I want I would. I would put a blindfold

684
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 5: on and pick whichever one. It don't matter whatever I.

685
00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: Tell them, whoever want disass. That's why I disass. As

686
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, I tell you what. I tell

687
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: you what Lomo, you gonna get it first, So you're

688
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: gonna get it after I get tanked. When I get tanked,

689
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you at the first of the year.

690
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: He's your core. I'm gonna come see you in July

691
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: and Keith Shan David Hey at the end of the

692
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: year or twenty seven. I got your I got you, asked.

693
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: With sound good to me? You am me sound real good, hey.

694
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate it. Congratulations, great fight. It wasn't the

695
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: outcome that you had hoped for because you trained for

696
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: eight weeks, had a great camp and you put the

697
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: time in to win. It didn't go his way, But

698
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: who knows what's gonna happen July August when the next

699
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: fight come around. Wish you the best and guess what,

700
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: come back and join us again when the fight happened,

701
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: and all we'll see what happens after that, Lamar. I

702
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

703
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: Appreciate I appreciate it. All right.

704
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 8: I'm gon see, I'm gonnaee you in DC, no doubt.

705
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, get my contract. We bring you out for sure.

706
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: All right, hey body, because you needed talk, you know. Yeah,

707
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: that's what I want to do yet, Yep, that's what

708
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: I would do. That what I want to hear, what

709
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: I got.

710
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: It on the night cap.

711
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 2: That's what I need you to do.

712
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 6: Record all right, all right, all right.

713
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: Appreciate that a quarterback coach from a team drafted in

714
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 2: the top seven refer to your door Sanders as brash

715
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: and arrogant in his team interview.

716
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 6: JR.

717
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: Sena. Anderson posted a very lengthy, interesting post I'm not

718
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: gonna read it all, but you guys can see it.

719
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: Here we go with this again.

720
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 6: Oh yoell, that's what that's what you want from your quarterback.

721
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: Listen, don't change. You know else's brash?

722
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 7: Can I tell you one quarterback who's brash, especially come

723
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 7: out of college with the way he plays, the way

724
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 7: he carried himself by the name of Baker Mayfield. You

725
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 7: in number one two number Baker Mayfield was trash. Cam huh,

726
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 7: Cam brash? Huh?

727
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: You know who else's brash? Johnny Manziel was brash. You

728
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 4: know now, all of a sudden, there's a problem with

729
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 4: having confidence in yourself.

730
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 6: He's not brash.

731
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 7: It's about having confidence. It's believing in yourself and believing

732
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 7: in the work that you've already put in. The resume

733
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 7: speaks for yourself.

734
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 6: Turn on the film.

735
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 7: There's the reason he's talking the way he's talking. I

736
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 7: believe I can come in to change the franchise. How

737
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 7: was that brash for feeling that way? If you're not

738
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 7: serious about changing your franchise and having a franchise changing

739
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 7: the quarterback, I'm not the one for you. What's wrong

740
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 7: with saying that when that's exactly what the teams are

741
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 7: looking for. Someone with that type of confidence, not soft spoken.

742
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 4: You are a leader of men coming in as a

743
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 4: rookie to change the franchise, you.

744
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 6: Have to be.

745
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: Okay, let's just say, for the sake of argument, Joe,

746
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: everything that he's said, everything that this coach said, that

747
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: he's brashed, and he's arrogant. Can he play That's all

748
00:33:52,800 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 2: I Can he play football? He's a football player. He's

749
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 2: not into politics. Because the politics, you need to be likable.

750
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: That's why people will vote for you in this situation.

751
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: Can he play football? Okay?

752
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: What art?

753
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: Does he have? Any issues off the field? Do you

754
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 2: worry about having to have your phone on ring the

755
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: entire night? Are you worried about a if you see

756
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: my player here, give me a call watch out for it?

757
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: Is that any such thing that you can need to

758
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: worry about. His dad would brash? I'm confused. At the

759
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 2: end of the day. Can the guy play football? Can

760
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: the guy? If you want a politician, if you want elite,

761
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: a cub scout, someone that's gonna be in the church, Okay, fine,

762
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 2: I get that. I want a football player. I want

763
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: him to have good care. I don't care about the brashness.

764
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: I don't care about all this stuff. I don't want

765
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 2: them to get in trouble off the field. Although I

766
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: understand that young kids will make mistakes because I was young,

767
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: so I'm not here to condemn for a first time mistake.

768
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: I just don't want to see a repeat offender. That's

769
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 2: what gets That's what that's what I get upset about

770
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 2: repeat offenders. But I don't have no problem with you

771
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: doing I don't have no problem with any guy if

772
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: that's what if that's what we're talking about. That's what

773
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: we're about here.

774
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 6: Now.

775
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: You have to understand a lot of times, oh Joe,

776
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 2: you hey, we brag because we had to ay. We

777
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: a lot of times we were playing against people that

778
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: were bigger than us, older than us, and we did

779
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: something good. We had to let them know. That's that's

780
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: how we grew up.

781
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 6: Every time, man, every time.

782
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 7: But listen, it is I understand obviously, especially at the

783
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 7: quarterback position, they want you to be and conduct yourself

784
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 7: a certain way. They want you to be Palm Brady's

785
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 7: the paid man to Drew Breeses. They want to lump

786
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 7: everybody in the same category. They have to be a

787
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 7: robot you have to be politically correct. You have to

788
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 7: know how to talk, and you have to know how

789
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 7: to answer questions. You have to know how to keep

790
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 7: things in house. You have to know how to fall

791
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 7: on the sword. But things don't go well, you got it.

792
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 6: Put the blame.

793
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 4: You put the blame on yourself.

794
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 6: No, it's me. It all starts to me. Offensively. I

795
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 6: have to play better.

796
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: You know, when you win, we won. When you lose,

797
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: you take the blame. That's the part about being the quarterback.

798
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: That's the ownership. That's the ownership that one has to have.

799
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, this is what Jasina Anderson second paragraph, according

800
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: to league sources said. Quarterback coach seems to have an

801
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: issue with the culture of athletes who have broad faith

802
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: and financial success before entering the NFL and their opinions

803
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: appears to have to have them a problem with certain athletes.

804
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: I'll leave it at that. This is how the pre

805
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: draft evaluation can get jack because of evaluators don't seemingly

806
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: possess the discernment to detect intangible traits that are connected

807
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: to the will and drive to win without being a

808
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: stat or delineate it delineated in an analytic report.

809
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 6: That don't.

810
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not, if you're not familiar with

811
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 2: the said culture. See somebody from a different culture, if

812
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: somebody from the Asian culture or the Jewish culture, I couldn't.

813
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: But I know my culture. I know how we talked.

814
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 8: That man.

815
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: Think about it, and I've always said that. You've heard

816
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: me say this numerous chime chat. What I respect so

817
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 2: much about guys that parents that had money, his dad's time.

818
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: He said, now I want your money. I want to

819
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: do it myself. Peyton Manning parents have money. He said, Noah,

820
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 2: I want to do this myself. Brownie James, dad is

821
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: Lebron James. He said, nah, Dad, let me put the

822
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: time in. That says something because a lot of times

823
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 2: we see people kids of famous or well to do

824
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: they don't have that kind of drive. It takes a

825
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: special type of person to go up living in an

826
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: ivory tower with mink slippers and phil Jamas say hey,

827
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 2: I want to get out the mother like my dad

828
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 2: or like my mom? Did everybody watch it like that?

829
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 6: I got you.

830
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: Push your door and his dad did everything. He put

831
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: him in the right situation, had great coaches, had a

832
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,439
Speaker 2: cultivated relationship with Tom Tom would talk to your door,

833
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 2: probably checked them out on film, probably work with him.

834
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: What's wrong with that? Wouldn't we If every parent could

835
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 2: be in a position to make sure they kid got

836
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: the best the best teachers, the best coaches, the best physios,

837
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: would we or would he or she not do that

838
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: for their child?

839
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 6: Absolutely, that's the whole point. That's the whole point in

840
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 6: being a parent, being a phone of being a mother.

841
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 6: That's what you that's what you want.

842
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm confused.

843
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 6: Oh it goes without saying. But just for the sake

844
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 6: of an argument, you have the other side that creates

845
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 6: stuff like this. But don't care. Oh, he's not conducting

846
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 6: himself the way the way we.

847
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: Find that's your kid. You didn't raise it. Yeah, I

848
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 2: love it. A situation that he's gonna get in trouble. Uh,

849
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: he's he seemed very levelheaded to me. I know he's

850
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 2: gonna be level headed because I know his dad. I

851
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: know it's dad extremely well, and his dad jokes around.

852
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: But they know he know nonsense. They know he know nonsense.

853
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 6: That's what it is to have a business.

854
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 7: When it's time for business and perfecting your craft and

855
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 7: getting better at your craft, putting the work, the homework,

856
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 7: the studying, the training.

857
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: How many times you heard Time say I'm two things.

858
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: I'm coaching Dad, but I'm dead first. Make no mistake

859
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: about that. His kids are very, very of the utmost

860
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: importance to it. He's always been this way. Y'all think

861
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: he's this is time, this is who he is. Now

862
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 2: he behaves a little different with you on the phone

863
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: with me. But I don't get it. But you know what,

864
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: O yo, hey, I guess I. Bucky Brooks responded, thanks

865
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: for sharing the desina. Every year we watch high profile

866
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: quarterbacks deal with the nonsense. No one expects your door

867
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: Sanders to be perfect fit for every coach organization, but

868
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 2: the unnecessary character attacks by NFL personnel and some media

869
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 2: members with NFL backgrounds, It's garbage. These unflattering and unfounded remarks.

870
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: Remarks haunt prospects beyond the pre draft process, including taining

871
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: the fan based opinion before the players takes the field

872
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: for a squad. It's stupid. It does. Perception is a

873
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: person's reality.

874
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 6: Wait, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

875
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 9: You ain't finna get it. You ain't finna get away

876
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 9: with that one. Hold on now, all right, somebody stole

877
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 9: up you know you travel that travel with that man.

878
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: Reception is a person's reality, but perception is not always

879
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: the truth.

880
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 8: Were you in your bag?

881
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 6: Wait a minute? Perception is not always the truth.

882
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: It's uh. Look, he's been dealing with this his whole

883
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: life because guess what he's been Dione Sander's son. He's

884
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: been dealing with this his whole life. He's gonna deal

885
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: with it for the rest of his life, no matter

886
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 2: what occupation. That precedes him for the longest time. And

887
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: I still get it. I'm Sterling Sharpe's little brother. They

888
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: be in the airport. I said, bro, you loud and wrong. Yeah,

889
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: but you're close you with that boy?

890
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: Now?

891
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 8: Yeah?

892
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 2: I just hey when they called me like, yeah, yeah,

893
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: you played for Green Bay No, I played for them,

894
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: but oh yeah, that's right. You're the one that played

895
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,479
Speaker 2: with farm No. I played with el Way. But okay,

896
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: but go ahead, keep it going. Hey.

897
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 6: They they used to they still do what to be

898
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 6: used to?

899
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: They still do. I like, bro, oh yo, kids, when

900
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: they tell me, man, y'all don't look nothing to like

901
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: I said, my brother, not my dad. Hey, what the hell?

902
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 8: Hey?

903
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 4: You know, you know people people today still and most

904
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 4: of the time it's women most of the time as

905
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: women is very funny. Obviously they're fans of fans of me,

906
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 4: and they confused me and TiO all the time, and

907
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: I mean sometimes they missed. I'm not sure how you

908
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 4: mistake me for Tyo. Till was about two inches taller

909
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 4: and about he got about forty forty pounds on me.

910
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: You know, he six three by two thirty.

911
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 7: Like, I mean, I'm confused. Now, you know, I'm I'm

912
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 7: one good looking brother. I'm one good looking brother. Now

913
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 7: I'm not saying my brother from another mother is is

914
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 7: ugly and nothing. But he don't look like this, so

915
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 7: I'm not sure.

916
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Now, my sister and I we look alike. You look

917
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: at my sister and you tell, okay, they brother and

918
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: sister my brother. My brother looks just like my mom.

919
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: Me and my sister look like my dad. But it's okay.

920
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 2: But I understood that growing up. Won't you imagine? I

921
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 2: got a brother that's three years older, so he's a

922
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: I'm a freshman, he's a senior. He's good at everything. Naturally, Bro,

923
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: you ain't gonna be like your brother. You can't ride

924
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: run your brother.

925
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 6: Okay, don't like that. That ain't number motivation though, you

926
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 6: know hearing that Amber motivation. Hey, let me tell you something.

927
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: What you think you doing?

928
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 6: Have to deal with being I can't do that. You

929
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 6: can't do that.

930
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 4: Well, maybe you could do that at the HPEC whatever,

931
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 4: but you can't do it.

932
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 6: So he goes to Colorado.

933
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 4: You know, he gets done there.

934
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 2: What do you say?

935
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 7: You're still hearing all the chirps and the terms and

936
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 7: all the negativity. Now draft process, you're showing your confidence

937
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 7: based on the work that you've been putting in for

938
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 7: who knows how long. Now they tenue to change because

939
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 7: they don't like the way you conduct yourself. Because you

940
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 7: believe in yourself, you have confidence. We talked about Travis

941
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 7: Hunter in his comparison to play both ways in the NFL,

942
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 7: comparing it to shay Ho sh Otani. What are we

943
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 7: talking about? What are we talking about? It's okay, that's

944
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 7: the confidence. That's what you need to be great at

945
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 7: whatever it is you do. It doesn't even have to

946
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 7: be sports, it.

947
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 6: Doesn't have to be football.

948
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 7: But the kind of confidence that your door has, the

949
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 7: kind of confidence that Travis Hunter has it's okay to

950
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 7: be like that because that type of confidence is what

951
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 7: had driven them to the point where they are in life.

952
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: Because guess what. So he went to HBCU, he lit

953
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: it up. Oh he should he had an HBCU. He

954
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 2: go to Colorado, he lights it up. Oh conference, You see,

955
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: I can't win. I can't win. How does he win?

956
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: How does he win?

957
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: On Joe?

958
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 2: He goes to an HBCU. Does what he does? You

959
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: say the level of competition? Now he goes to a

960
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 2: D one and now you say, what the conference was weak?

961
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 7: Now when he gets to the NFL, I wonder what's

962
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 7: going to be the excuse? Then when he comes in

963
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 7: and actually changes the franchise around. Same thing with Cam Wore.

964
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 7: Can Wore is a little different. Can Warre's approach to

965
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 7: the game and the way he conduct conducts himself. It's

966
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 7: a little different. Everybody is different personal, he's different. All

967
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 7: won't be the same.

968
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want so do they TV?

969
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 6: Because I show listen, I wasn't that.

970
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: I'm joking.

971
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 6: I'm talking and walking, but I'm talking to walking.

972
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: Yes. Quinn Yours says he is the best quarterback in

973
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: the draft. Overcame and should door I think I'm the

974
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: best in the class and the most ready for an

975
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: NFL and most ready for the NFL because of what

976
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: I've been through. I think I'm the most ready for

977
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: the situations that occur in the NFL. Injuries, playing through

978
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: tough injuries, having a big name behind you, continue to

979
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 2: play through that amount of pressure, continue to be confident

980
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 2: after being bitched. It's hard to do. I matured a lot,

981
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: and then all the injuries I had to deal with

982
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: and come back from, I wouldn't trade it. It's the

983
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: reality of the position. Stuff's gonna go wrong, and I

984
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: have a plan of attack for pretty much any situation

985
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: that can arise.

986
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 8: I like it. You got to be a ob seated.

987
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 8: There we go.

988
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 7: Once again, he's spewing it in a different light. He's

989
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 7: spewing the same type of confidence and brashness that they're

990
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 7: talking about that you do or did, but in a

991
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 7: different way. He just spinning it in a different way.

992
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 7: Use in his history, his past experience. I telling you

993
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 7: why he's available as the best player ahead of the

994
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 7: two that might be in front of him. That's very brash.

995
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 7: Why are you telling us that same thing?

996
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 6: The delivery is.

997
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 2: Just different every player, every player in the draft, believe

998
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 2: they're the best player in the draft. He did go

999
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: through a lot. He went to Ohio State, couldn't get

1000
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: on the field. He leaves and go to Texas. He

1001
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: came with much fanfare, got booed, they wanted arts. Yeah,

1002
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: he had to play through injuries. Yeah, he's gone through

1003
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 2: a lot. Now you have to I mean, you have

1004
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 2: to be resilient. You have to be able to come partmentalize.

1005
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: They're gonna love you one week, hate you the next.

1006
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 2: But you have to believe. Have a strong belief in yourself.

1007
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: O Jo. That's the number one thing. Never let him

1008
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: take your confidence, even all the bulls, even if you

1009
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: get benched. You made it this far. You made it

1010
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: this far to give up, to quit because now you

1011
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: have a little bit more adversity that you've ever gone through.

1012
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 6: Nah, listen it take on your mental too, you know.

1013
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 6: Do you take a totally mentally Oh yeah, for sure,

1014
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 6: especially at the at the quarterback position. Oh my goodness,

1015
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness.

1016
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: Well I wish mister EWR is the best of luck.

1017
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: Oh you're a fan. Posted a picture of sam where

1018
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 2: with Sammy soci this weekend and it's gone viral, but

1019
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: then let's go viral. Yes, Sammy, yeah, Oh you're trying

1020
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: to say what you want? Sammy?

1021
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1022
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: No they say, they say, Sammy, he's black again.

1023
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1024
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: I saw that earlier.

1025
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 7: I thought somebody played around and photoshopped the picture, because

1026
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 7: how do you go from bleaching skin black again?

1027
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 2: Man, Sammy looked like them look like the way brother

1028
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: the white chick.

1029
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:02,919
Speaker 8: He done.

1030
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, sam darker?

1031
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 8: What happened?

1032
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 7: I think you listen, Once you stop bleaching yourself, doesn't

1033
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 7: your doesn't your normal pigmentation too much?

1034
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 8: No?

1035
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 2: He was probably on the abbit that alterica. You youn't

1036
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: remember them bleaching creams. They used to be bleaching cream Hey,

1037
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 2: anybody anybody my age older, nobody them bleaching creams. There

1038
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: was ultra, there was abby, there was no zema, and

1039
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: there's esoterica. Anybody nobody them?

1040
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 6: Right?

1041
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: You know?

1042
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 6: You know.

1043
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: I been our light skinned was a time, won't you.

1044
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

1045
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: Nah. I've been black my whole life, even when it

1046
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: wasn't popular back in the eighties, because you know, back

1047
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: then it was popular all Joe, It wasn't populative like

1048
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 2: the night is where Michael Jordan hit, Wesley Snipes hit

1049
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 2: because you know you had a head barge brothers. You

1050
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: had a l and Chico the barge. You had al

1051
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: be sure you had all the all them brother with

1052
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 2: the good hair and the skin.

1053
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1054
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: So nah, I've been black by popular man since sixty.

1055
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 6: Eight, same same sind seventy two.

1056
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 2: Glad that you're back, Sammy, Oh Joe. Granny says, don't

1057
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: come back over unless you bringing back her containers. My

1058
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: grandma said, don't bother coming over if you don't bring

1059
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: back her containers.

1060
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 4: Granny, don't play by that tumplewear. Now you talk about tumpawb.

1061
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody took my tumpleware and just want to take

1062
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 2: their time and just.

1063
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 4: Oh they ain't being your tump web band.

1064
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: I did that for a couple of months, te about you.

1065
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 2: Well you know I got Yeah, I know you got it,

1066
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 2: but I want it. What I'm gonna put my food

1067
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: in my hands, So you want me to store my

1068
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: food like they said, put my hands in the freeze on.

1069
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 7: Uh my girl, I ain't play about her tuperwear. Boy

1070
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 7: with damn, she ain't play about and she got to

1071
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 7: use and take her lunch to the work man and please.

1072
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: Man, we just put we ain't have no tuberwar like that, man,

1073
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 2: we put looming and fall on top of everything. You

1074
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: we had no lids, hey, y'all had all Maybe y'all

1075
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: did we ain't have no lids in the seventies and eighties.

1076
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 2: Food just be all out or you put looming and

1077
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: fall over the top of it.

1078
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I bet, I bet, I bet you have. I

1079
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 6: bet you didn't. You didn't keep your grease and the

1080
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 6: and in.

1081
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: The coffee and the coffee right on the right on

1082
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: the stove.

1083
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 6: Oh no, we don't.

1084
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 4: We don't live the same life.

1085
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 6: Hey.

1086
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 2: Like I said, I ain't know nothing. I ain't nobody

1087
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: no tuberwar. We ain't have no tuberwear. I mean we had.

1088
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: You know, our drinking glass was old, great jar, was

1089
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: a great jelly jar, a man a jar, hot water

1090
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 2: break this thing off the side of it. You ain't

1091
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 2: brought no drinking glasses.

1092
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 6: Same same, same, yep and all those things.

1093
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 2: Like I said, I ain't know nothing about this until

1094
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: I got the till I was in the NFL, I

1095
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: ain't know nothing about no tupperware. I heard people mention it,

1096
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 2: But we didn't have that. Like I said, my grandma

1097
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 2: put looming them for Hey, cover that dish, boy, looming

1098
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: them for cover it up.

1099
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 7: Hey, I'm just thinking about breakfast man back in the days.

1100
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 7: I don't know if you look quaker Olds creak oats

1101
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 7: open listen. I remember my granddaddy man either I asked

1102
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 7: for two things for breakfast, are either.

1103
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 6: Quack Olds oat meal or creama wheat. I don't know

1104
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 6: if you remember Queen mariet And he would use the

1105
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 6: evaporated milk. Yeah, I know, the white can.

1106
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: I didn't know you weren't supposed to drink that milk.

1107
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: I didn't know you wasn't supposed to drink it. I

1108
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: didn't know that you supposed it blends you make, you

1109
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 2: make cakes and stuff with that. I didn't know you

1110
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 2: weren't supposed to drink it. But I want to me

1111
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 2: and my brace to wonder, like, man, why are we

1112
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: every time we drinking his milk? Our stomached be tore up?

1113
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: It's too damn thick.

1114
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what I was. That's all we had. Hey,

1115
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 2: we get some get some water, and that came milk.

1116
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 2: My grandma said, hey, boy, drink somebody now, And uh,

1117
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 2: it had to be The milk had to be really spoiled.

1118
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: I mean it almost had to be claver. You know

1119
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 2: what claver is like, it's coagulated. Now, if it was

1120
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: like that, it wasn't drinking. But hey, if it's just

1121
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 2: a little smell, Oh you got to go into cereal.

1122
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 2: You got going up in here. Hey, my girma like

1123
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 2: you be okay boy back dude, but uh yeah, my

1124
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: grandma wouldn't. Hey, you're gonna be told the dish out

1125
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: there with looming the fall over, you weren't getting no

1126
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: troublewaar so, so you were good.

1127
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: The volume

1128
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Speaker 5: M hm