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Speaker 1: here at the Sean Hannity Show. We have big news

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Speaker 1: of one of our staff people. Here, Ethan, the latest

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Speaker 1: member breaking news record. Alright, so, uh, what happened over

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Speaker 1: the weekend there, Ethan? I got engaged on Saturday in Washington.

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Speaker 1: And how long have you been dating this girl? Annie?

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Speaker 1: About a year? Do you like singer the song by

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Speaker 1: John Denver? Annie? You fill up my senses like a

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Speaker 1: night in the forest, like the mountain, and springtime like

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Speaker 1: the walk, and have a good singing voice. I'm like you,

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Speaker 1: so I did. Right. Here's the question, dude, this is

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Speaker 1: your your entire man card is at stake here. Did

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Speaker 1: you cry? Did you cry? When you asked her no,

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Speaker 1: did she cry? She did for a little bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: did you How big was the diamond? It was actually

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Speaker 1: her grandmother's ring. She wanted her grandmother's so wow, hng

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Speaker 1: on a second, you didn't even pay for the ring.

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Speaker 1: I'm buying a nice wedding band to go along with it.

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Speaker 1: It's very sentimental to her, So that's what I did.

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Speaker 1: So you went to Grandma said, I mean, I need

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Speaker 1: a ring passed away, So let's not go down now.

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Speaker 1: I'm only kidding. Well, congratulations, I think thank you? All right? Uh?

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Speaker 1: When he when is the big wedding? I'm sorry? What

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Speaker 1: was the first thing that I said? When he told me?

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Speaker 1: I said, don't ask me to go to the wedding.

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Speaker 1: I hate weddings and I hate funeral So the first

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Speaker 1: thing you said was I think, congratulations, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: coming to your wedding. Your god, your all hard, poss

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Speaker 1: I'm all hard, right, But no, wait a minute, you

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Speaker 1: should be my witness. I gave you an option for

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Speaker 1: money or my attendance, and what did you choose? Well,

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Speaker 1: I already told you I had a very nice set

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Speaker 1: up for you at my wedding. What did you choose

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Speaker 1: gonna put in a trap, me in and just let

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Speaker 1: people take pictures with you. It's gonna be wonderful. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I become a distraction at weddings, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to be a distraction. I want the person to have

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Speaker 1: their day. And nobody's saying, oh, so, what you're trying

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Speaker 1: to say is I gave you my dress? Alight, still

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Speaker 1: being Did I give you five figures in a bonus

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Speaker 1: and said happy wedding day? Yes? No, If I didn't,

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Speaker 1: I will. I gave you a pretty good money. I

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Speaker 1: was a very healthy gift. It was, and I enjoy

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Speaker 1: being healthy. I'm a healthy person, and I thank you

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Speaker 1: for that healthful gift. But I love you. Deal. But listen,

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Speaker 1: you had a great day. You know what. I love

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Speaker 1: your husband. He's the only guy I know that had

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Speaker 1: the ability to wear sneakers at a wedding. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I love this guy. He's the coolest guy. He's my

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Speaker 1: hero for where he's my hero. Well, he wore sneakers

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Speaker 1: at his wedding. Are you gonna wear sneakers at your wedding? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question. No, no, yeah, because she's gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you what to wear right, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: she's gonna tell She told me specifically she wants me

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Speaker 1: to have input, and nice said, Walkay, don't get the

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Speaker 1: imp stay out of the input business. Trust me, that's

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Speaker 1: your first lesson in getting married. Don't get involved in

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Speaker 1: the stupid wedding. And I honestly, I don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: wedding is like a racket. I had my niece's wedding

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Speaker 1: at my house last year. It's a racket. You pay

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Speaker 1: a fortune. The tent was a fortune. The dance floor, well,

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Speaker 1: or the paper plates you can get you know, the

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Speaker 1: plastic glasses you can get like plastic forks or the

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Speaker 1: really expensive gold forks that you're renting for one stupid

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Speaker 1: day and it costs a fortune. Well, you see, Sean,

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Speaker 1: we all know if we left it to you, we

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Speaker 1: all have hot that's I mean, not that that's not

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Speaker 1: incredibly by the way, that would be the coolest wedding ever.

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Speaker 1: what do you wear? Sneaks? Sperries, sperries, sperries, new you walk?

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Speaker 1: Look at Jason, Jason, you're going down next. That's why

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Speaker 1: I predict that the order here is gonna be Ethan,

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Speaker 1: You and Sunshine over there getting cold in here. I

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Speaker 1: think he's going to freeze over before that happens. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I'm predicting Sunshine next. She'll go done next, no doubt

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Speaker 1: Oh stop, it's crazy cat Lady, the Crazy dog lady. Dogs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you brought a dog to work today. So she brings

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Speaker 1: Her name is Treat. Okay, so Treating. I bond immediately.

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Speaker 1: I got a bone, I'm holding it. I throw it,

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Speaker 1: And what do you keep saying? Oh, get out of here.

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Speaker 1: The dog wants that, So I'm gonna interject, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: blow up your spot. So you had Marley for about

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Speaker 1: Sean and what do you say here? I'm Marley, I'm

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Speaker 1: sit Marley. Port dog is not taking a breath along

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Speaker 1: to immediately take over Alpha Dube. That's interesting because when

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Speaker 1: Lauren was trying to do that, you said that she

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Speaker 1: a million years. This dog is gonna walk over her,

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Speaker 1: just like in my house. I'm the I am what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? The poor dog's gonna jump the poor

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Speaker 1: that's got some spirit and energy and fighting her as

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Speaker 1: like a steak in your hand? Yeah? Absolutely, Listen. The

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Speaker 1: Seawan play with me. That's where you're wrong. That's not

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Speaker 1: The dog came in my office and I said to Lauren, Lauren,

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Speaker 1: get over it, all right. We got a loaded show today.

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Speaker 1: We got Kathleen Willie, Juanita Broderick, and Paula Jones. After

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Speaker 1: Horowitz is started stopping by today. Our friend this guy

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Speaker 1: top story today is this morning a judge acquitted Baltimore

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Speaker 1: police officer Edward Nero of all charges in connection with

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Speaker 1: the April arrest of Freddie Gray. Remember that that death,

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Speaker 1: sparking protests and widespread rioting in the city. Now, I

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Speaker 1: what you need to know. Prosecutors charged. Now let me backtrack.

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Speaker 1: In this case, you have Caesar Goodson, forty five year

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Speaker 1: style of politics that may not be in vogue today,

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Speaker 1: but I still think, nevertheless is the right kind of politics.

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Speaker 1: So the political their headline, Ryan says Trump could win,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not betting on it. So if you only

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Speaker 1: read the headline, you get a very different take on

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Speaker 1: what he actually said when he said that, yes, I

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Speaker 1: don't I'm not a betting man. So he says he's

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Speaker 1: not betting because he doesn't bet, and then he goes

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Speaker 1: on to say what I have been saying since that

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Speaker 1: they need an inspiring vision, that they need some unity.

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Speaker 1: That's why I've been pushing a contract with America, Promises

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Speaker 1: to America. I've been pushing this with Paul Ryan now

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Speaker 1: for for as soon as he became speaker. I've been

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Speaker 1: telling Trump the same thing. Trump kind of likes the idea.

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Speaker 1: He told me, I think it would be good for

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Speaker 1: the Republicans. Then they can run united and we'll do

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Speaker 1: those ten things that I discussed in detail last week.

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Speaker 1: By the way, al Gore has weighed in on the race,

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Speaker 1: he will not endorse Hillary Clinton. That's a problem if

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Speaker 1: al Gore. I've heard through the grape vine over the

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Speaker 1: years that the Gores and the Clintons hate each other.

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Speaker 1: I've heard through the years that I don't know something

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Speaker 1: happened with Hillary and Tipper. I'm not exactly sure, but

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Speaker 1: something happened. I've gotten some very interesting bits of information

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Speaker 1: that are somewhat scandalous, but I can't talk about it.

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Speaker 1: But from secrets are of his guys. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: talk all the time. They're not supposed to what they

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Speaker 1: tell me because they trust me because I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to give him up anyway. So apparently there's no love

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Speaker 1: loss there between them. But this is a pretty inconvenient

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Speaker 1: truth of you will with al Gore not ready to

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Speaker 1: ready to endorse Hillary, He's not endorsing he says, I've

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Speaker 1: gotten signals that you could easily interpret that way. Gore said,

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Speaker 1: when asked during an interview as to whether or not

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Speaker 1: he's gonna support Hillary Clinton and whether she has support

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Speaker 1: sought his endorsement, and he said in the interview that

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Speaker 1: he will back the Democratic nominee, whoever that happens to be.

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Speaker 1: And then the environmental whack job Al Gore, who's unhinged,

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Speaker 1: and we caught getting into a private Gulf Stream jet

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Speaker 1: with him and his wife, even though the jet seats

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Speaker 1: fourteen people, and then into a private limousine thereafter. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: prediction that the world would end last January failed to

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Speaker 1: come true. Well, now he's out blasting Donald Trump for

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Speaker 1: not owing along with the global warming hoax. And he

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Speaker 1: actually he said some things about the climate crisis, and

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Speaker 1: I think should concern everyone, he said. I'm not pollyannish,

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Speaker 1: but I do think there's still some basis for hope.

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Speaker 1: President Carter said that he hopes Trump will be malleable.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, he said, before starting to laugh.

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna hope that he goes off the

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Speaker 1: deep end like you? Another interesting tidbit hispanics are not

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Speaker 1: sold on Hillary Clinton. Just like when the polls came

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Speaker 1: out last week, everyone said, oh yeah, Donald Trump has

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Speaker 1: a problem with women, but the person that has the

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Speaker 1: biggest problem with the demographic is Hillary with men. Well,

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Speaker 1: the same thing, Washington Times points out, hispanics. Well, they're

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Speaker 1: not going over to Hillary Clinton either. She struggles to

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Speaker 1: crack among that voting block and poll after pole, putting

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Speaker 1: on her in a deep pole as she tries to

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Speaker 1: rebuild the coalition that powered President Obama. The problem is

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Speaker 1: she's not Obama. She doesn't look for all of my

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Speaker 1: criticism Old Obama. The guy can read a hell of

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Speaker 1: a speech. The guy's got some charisma. He's like he

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Speaker 1: believes his own socialism. He reads speeches from a teleprompter. Well,

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Speaker 1: he does it all with conviction. He knows nothing. He

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Speaker 1: can't govern to save his life. He has nothing but

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Speaker 1: indoctrination to fall back on. Hes Nope, you know he's

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Speaker 1: on his way now. I guess to apologize. Well, he

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Speaker 1: said he's not going to apologize for Hiroshima. We're making progress.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a good start. Anyway. Apparently, reports out today

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Speaker 1: Obama's pushing the Israeli military to buck their government. The

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Speaker 1: Islamic State Group leader urged the tax on the Europe

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Speaker 1: and UH and the UK. That's not good. We're getting

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Speaker 1: more reports and evidence that, in fact is many signs

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Speaker 1: pointing to terrorism in the Egypt Air eight oh four crash. Gee,

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Speaker 1: that's a shock. Trump was right. Everybody else seems to

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Speaker 1: be wrong on that. And apparently there's one report out

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Speaker 1: today that the pilot, one of the pilots may have

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Speaker 1: been radicalized. That's not good either. The Publicans do deserve

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Speaker 1: some credit. I've been a strong vocal opponent of theirs.

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Speaker 1: They have done two things recently that show that they

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Speaker 1: have hopes of gaining some type of spine and backbone lately.

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Speaker 1: One is in the Senate they are not going forward

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Speaker 1: with Obama's choice to replace antonin Scalia that the American

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Speaker 1: people can decide that in the next election. I think

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Speaker 1: Trump releasing the names of of justices he'd picked from

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Speaker 1: last week is a good first step because every conservative

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Speaker 1: I know love that list, and he said he would

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Speaker 1: only appoint people of a similar vein, which is hopeful

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Speaker 1: considering that will impact the country for generations to come.

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Speaker 1: The other thing that the Republicans are doing that gives

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Speaker 1: me some hope is that the impeachment hearings for the

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Speaker 1: I R S chief will start Tuesday. Remember, Katherine angle Breck,

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Speaker 1: we've had on this program before. What yeah, true, the

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Speaker 1: vote and and others and all these other conservative groups

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Speaker 1: tea party group, all of them targeted by the I

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Speaker 1: R S. Well. Anyway, so you've got the I R

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Speaker 1: S Commissioner will not appear at a misconduct hearing tomorrow

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Speaker 1: where Republicans are gonna lay out a case to impeach him.

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Speaker 1: House GOP leadership resisted any move to begin impeachment Series proceedings,

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Speaker 1: fearing it would turn into a circus. But Freedom Caucus

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Speaker 1: founders Jim Jordan Mark Meadows a few days ago threatened

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Speaker 1: to force an impeachment vote on the matter if the Speaker,

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Speaker 1: Paul Ryan didn't make House Judiciary Chairman Bob goodlet examine

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Speaker 1: the issue. At least the Freedom Caucuses. They're the only

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Speaker 1: people that we can count on regularly. Um, you want

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Speaker 1: to hear something really outrageous the v A v A secretary,

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Speaker 1: guy by the name of Robert McDonald uh compared the

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Speaker 1: length of time veterans wait to receive healthcare at the

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Speaker 1: v A. Listen to this to the length of time

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Speaker 1: the people wait p rides at Disneyland. Can you believe this?

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Speaker 1: And said his agency shouldn't you wait times as a

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Speaker 1: measure of success, because Disney doesn't. These these vets are dying,

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Speaker 1: you idiot. They've had they have institutionalized corruption where they

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Speaker 1: put vets on one waiting list, the real list, and

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Speaker 1: some people died because they never got called for the

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Speaker 1: heart surgery that they needed a year ago, or other

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Speaker 1: types of serious illnesses. I mean, it's when you go

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Speaker 1: to Disney, do they measure the number of hours you

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Speaker 1: wait in line? Or what's important is what's your satisfaction

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Speaker 1: with the experience. Well, you can't compare Disney to a

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Speaker 1: a vet who's about to blow his brains out because

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Speaker 1: he's got post traumatic uh stress syndrome disorder. Good grief.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with these people comparing the need for hospital

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Speaker 1: care with waiting online at Disney? Oh my god, it's

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Speaker 1: unbelievable how corrupt the country is. Last, but certainly not

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Speaker 1: least to the youth of this city. I will see

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Speaker 1: justice on your behalf. This is a moment, this is

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Speaker 1: your moment. Let's ensure that we have peaceful and productive

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Speaker 1: rallies that will develop structural and systemic changes for generations

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Speaker 1: to come. You're at the forefront of this cause, and

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Speaker 1: as young people, our time is now. To the people

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Speaker 1: of Baltimore and the demonstrators across America, I heard your

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Speaker 1: call for no justice, no peace. Your peace is sincerely

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Speaker 1: needed as I work to deliver justice on behalf of

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Speaker 1: this young man. To those that are angry, hurt, or

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Speaker 1: have their own experiences of injustice at the hands of

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Speaker 1: police officers, I urge you to channel the energy peacefully

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Speaker 1: as we prosecute this case. I've heard your calls for

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Speaker 1: no justice, no peace. However, your peace is sincerely needed

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Speaker 1: as I work to deliver justice on behalf of Freddy

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Speaker 1: Greg Yountday gang bangers. To know, not one time have

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Speaker 1: I been mistreated. Right, situation is happening. It's how you

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Speaker 1: handle this man. I've filed this family's heart. I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you no justice. Why I say no justice, no case.

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Speaker 1: You can't have case when you put my son in it.

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Speaker 1: Come on, y'all, if there was your child, come up,

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Speaker 1: be honest with yourself. This is not right. Just a

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Speaker 1: has a right to hurt, he has a right to

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Speaker 1: have you hang thats gonna be his son, No, that conna.

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Speaker 1: I gotta hate your old son. That is in these communities,

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Speaker 1: what happens to him? All right? That was the state

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Speaker 1: Attorney Mosby earlier on and the family and our top

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Speaker 1: story continues. UH. This morning, a judge acquitted Baltimore police

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Speaker 1: officer Edward Nero of all charges can in connection with

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Speaker 1: the April arrest of Freddie Gray, whose death from a

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Speaker 1: broken neck sustained while in police custody sparked large protests

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Speaker 1: and widespread rioting in the city. And describing what happened,

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Speaker 1: and I'm drawing on various news organization including the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal, the prosecutors charged officer Nero and five of

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Speaker 1: his fellow officers with crimes after Mr Gray died of

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Speaker 1: a spinal court injury sustained in police custody. Prosecutors charged

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Speaker 1: Nero with second degree assault for touching Gray during what

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Speaker 1: they alleged was an illegal arrest, and with reckless endangerment

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Speaker 1: for failing to seatbelt him in a police fan. He

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Speaker 1: was also charged with two counts of his conduct in office.

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Speaker 1: If convicted, he would have faced a maximum prison sentence

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Speaker 1: for second degree assault of ten years and up to

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Speaker 1: five years for reckless endangerment, but Circuit Judge Barry Williams

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Speaker 1: found him not guilty of all charges. In this case,

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Speaker 1: Nero opted for a bench trial rather than a trial

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Speaker 1: by jury. In this particular case, he pleaded not guilty,

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Speaker 1: as did the other five officers. Now we find ourselves

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Speaker 1: again in a situation where go back the bolto of

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Speaker 1: the the the Cambridge police acted stupidly. What the president too,

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Speaker 1: That's what the President said, Well, the Cambridge police did

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Speaker 1: not act stupidly. Our constitutional attorney. President rushed to judgment

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Speaker 1: if Trayvon he couldn't look like my son, if I

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Speaker 1: had a son, well, in that particular case, and I

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Speaker 1: witness placed Trayvon Martin on top of George Zimmerman, with

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Speaker 1: audio of George Zimmerman screaming at the top of his

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Speaker 1: lung as the eyewitness described a scene of ground and

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Speaker 1: pound of George Zimmerman's head into the ground and injuries

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Speaker 1: consistent with the eyewitnesses story. The President was wrong again.

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Speaker 1: Then we have the case of Darren Wilson, the officer

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Speaker 1: in Ferguson, Missouri. In that particular case, you got a

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Speaker 1: video of two guys robbing a store, multiple eye witnesses,

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Speaker 1: even though the president rushed to judgment and in that

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Speaker 1: case not guilty, no indictment why based mostly on the

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Speaker 1: testimony of black eyewitnesses in Ferguson, Missouri. Now, in this

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Speaker 1: particular case, the expectation was raised again for a certain verdict.

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Speaker 1: And I know some people are disappointed, but some people

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Speaker 1: weren't given the facts. A lot of people rushed to judgment,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people pleaded, a lot of people made

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Speaker 1: the case in public that these officers were guilty. And officers,

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Speaker 1: just like everybody else in this country, have the presumption

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Speaker 1: of innocence until they are found guilty based on the evidence. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: joining us now to get into this, we have Amy

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Speaker 1: are They're dashed? The end is with us as former

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Speaker 1: CBS reporter on air, legal analysts, Horace Cooper, legal commentator,

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Speaker 1: co chair of Project twenty one, an organization of Black Americans.

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Speaker 1: Brian Claypool, civil rights attorney, all here to discuss and

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Speaker 1: debate the acquittal of Officer Nero in this particular case, Amy,

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Speaker 1: what's your reaction? You know, I think there is no

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Speaker 1: conviction for one simple reason. The prosecutors were totally enopt

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Speaker 1: the idea that the arrest was unlawful, that was taken

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Speaker 1: off the table. Seawan the false imprisonment charge that was removed.

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Speaker 1: Can we just can we just stop for a second now,

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Speaker 1: police police officers on duty. Well, Freddie Gray, first of all,

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Speaker 1: was known within the community according to all these reports,

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Speaker 1: as a drug dealer. It was early in the morning,

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Speaker 1: the officers were out on patrol. Freddie Gray sees the officers.

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00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: Freddie Gray takes off running when he sees the officers.

638
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,479
Speaker 1: Do you think that's normal behavior of somebody? And you're

639
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: right where you're going is right with this? You can't

640
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: just chase somebody because they're running. But if they're running

641
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: in a high crime area, that's reasonable suspicion that either

642
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 1: they committed a crime or they're about you. They could chase.

643
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: And what that does is give them opportunities to stop

644
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Speaker 1: and frisk. They didn't even have to stop and frisk

645
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: John because he had this switchblade in plain view. He

646
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: was wearing it like a freaking Fannie pack. Okay, so

647
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: there's their probable cause he's got an illegal web. Then

648
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: they can arrest him and search for more dangerous weapons. Okay.

649
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: But so that was taken off the table in this trial.

650
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: They all agreed that there was no false imprisonment. This

651
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: was a justifiable arrest. So why did the prosecutors go

652
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: and base their whole case for assault on the fact

653
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: that there was an unlawful arrest and therefore any touching

654
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: of this guy was illegal? So you know what the

655
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 1: judge says. He says, Oh, if any touching is illegal,

656
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: they could have hugged him. He can't rule on those

657
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: grounds for an assault because he's setting a precedent that

658
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: any time police officers illegally hancuffed HI when they're assaulting them.

659
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,959
Speaker 1: Here's the problem in what you're saying. Okay, So now

660
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: the prosecutors again, so often, as it happens as you

661
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: as you know, Amy, they overcharge, and in this particular

662
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Speaker 1: case they probably did. Again. No, there was a clear

663
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Speaker 1: case for assault, John, Okay, all right. You can say

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Speaker 1: I've seen the video, I've seen him handcuffed, I've seen

665
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Speaker 1: him placed in the back of the patty wagon. The

666
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: only thing that I see that you might have a

667
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: case on it, and is probably more of a civil case,

668
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: is the fact that they did and seatbelt him in. No, No, No,

669
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: the assault took place before he was put in the van.

670
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: After here, where's the evidence of where's the evidence of

671
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: the video of him screaming in pain and being dragged somewhere?

672
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: Ben Up, excuse me. Now I've looked, with all due respect,

673
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Speaker 1: I have not seen any video that shows he was

674
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: clearly beaten up. And there was a point in this

675
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: arrest where nobody saw anything. If someone screaming in pain

676
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: and being dragged at some point they were harmed. If

677
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: somebody reused me, Amy, Amy, You're you're jumping to a

678
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: thousand conclusions. You don't know if he resisted arrest. You

679
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 1: don't know what went on because nobody saw the actual arrest.

680
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: But a lot of times then you esses there's okay.

681
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: But there's one other factor here. A lot of people

682
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: scream when they're being arrested. You want to know why,

683
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: because you're never going to see a videotaped arrest, especially

684
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Speaker 1: if someone resists in any way that is gonna look peaceful.

685
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: It's not going to by its very nature, had witnesses,

686
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: You had officers saying he was taken into custody without incidents.

687
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: So why is he's screaming in pain? Well, maybe this

688
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: was a pre existing injury. How do you prove that, Horace,

689
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: Now you also had this guy apparently that was in

690
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: the pattiwagon. Then rickcant of the story then said it

691
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: was right that he said that he heard Freddy Gray

692
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: banging against the patty wagon wall. Horace Cooper. Yeah, this

693
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: is the problem. Um. The prosecutors and the mayor decided

694
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Speaker 1: what the guilt of this case was to he's the crowd.

695
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: As a black American, I am particularly troubled by the

696
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: idea that we manipulate the criminal justice system so as

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Speaker 1: to appease particular interests. The way the trial system is

698
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: supposed to work, you get charged for the things that

699
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: we believe we can prove. It's not a fact finding mission.

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00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: It is an evidentiary basis. When this particular young man

701
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: with a criminal encounter record that was more than twenty

702
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: times with outstanding warrants occurred and ran when police saw him,

703
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: and when they finally catch him, they still can find

704
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: the switchblade. We don't know what could have or could

705
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: not have occurred that constituted the lawful arrest and that

706
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 1: met with the procedures that the City of Baltimore had

707
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: for rest purposes. All of this that flowed after was

708
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: about appeasing the crowd. What's your reaction to this, Brian Claypole. Well, Sean, this,

709
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: this verdict today sets us back fifty years in race relations. This, this,

710
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: this prosecution of Nero was equally important as the driver

711
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: of the patty wagon because he was the first guy

712
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: to come in contact with Freddy. How many? How many?

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00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,760
Speaker 1: How many of the officers were minority in this case

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Speaker 1: the officers, I believe, excuse me, I understand. I understand

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00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: that many of the officers are involved. You said the

716
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: set race relations back all these years. But well, can

717
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: I finish, Let me finish, Let me finish my spot.

718
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: Here's why, because you have you have white police officers

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00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: walking into a neighborhood looking at a man. I'm disputed

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00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: that Freddy Grade did nothing wrong. He was minding his business.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't committing a crime in this knife. That is

722
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: simply that's true. The knife wasn't visible. Let me finish,

723
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: nfe wasn't visible. They look at somebody checking the criminal

724
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: code running if not a crime, let's let's talk about that.

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00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: Can I just stop for a second, Brian, So you

726
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: think it's normal behavior for somebody that has standing warrants,

727
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: a known history of drug dealing. Uh As Amy said,

728
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: and I'll let you guys dispute it that a knife

729
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: that is visible to the police officers they're out on patrol.

730
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: You think it's normal at eight thirty in the morning

731
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 1: for for somebody to see an officer and just take

732
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: off and run if they're up to no good, if

733
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: they're not up to good, do you think that's no

734
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm asking, do you think that's normal? Abnormal? Abnormal behavior

735
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: is not criminal conduct. Second of all, there's noble and

736
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: you're wrong, You're wrong. It's the mentality of the circumstances.

737
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: And it was a high crime area. Okay, that's reasonable.

738
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: It was fishing to chase this guy. It's not absolutely

739
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: not on what these officers Amy. These officers had no idea.

740
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: Nero had no idea. There were at ending warrants outstanding

741
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: on this guy. Well, wait a minute, that's that's not true. Absolutely,

742
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: that's not true. He was recognized. Let me go back

743
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: to one point, Horce, let me get back to this point.

744
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: Brian is claiming this is setting race relations back fifty years.

745
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: Half the cops here were minority, the other the other

746
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: half of light. So I'm trying to understand how does

747
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: this set race relations back fifty years? The only thing

748
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: I see is that we're giving bad advice to people

749
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: that will ultimately get more people injured. Instead of justifying

750
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: criminal reality and unlawful resisions, we should be encouraging people

751
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: to comply with the law. Now, black Americans operate as

752
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: law enforcement, White Americans operated law enforcement. The color line

753
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: here should be blue, not black and white. This division

754
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: is exacerbating what Director Comey called the Ferguson effect. We're

755
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: going to see more and more kinds of problems, not

756
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: less where you're a black man. Let me ask you

757
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: a question. Do you think it was fair of Nero

758
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: throw Freddy Gray, stick his knee and stick his knee

759
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: in his back? Do you think that is a reasonable

760
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: apprehension of a suspect. That's why I'm saying there was

761
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: assault at some point. I mean, there were five officers.

762
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: You're telling me they couldn't safely subdue this guy. You

763
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: have video, and we had a cluded no. Here. The

764
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: guys are setting up a standard. You're setting up a

765
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: standard that is going to make it more likely that

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00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: officers will resort to fire arms instead of a closer

767
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: encounter with individuals. This is not some unusual situation. This

768
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: is actually what happens on a regular basis. People see

769
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: the law enforcement. They either are engaging in a crime

770
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: or they have outstanding warrants, and some of them choose

771
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: to run and the officers have to track them down.

772
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: If you have your way. If you have your way,

773
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: they either won't do it the Ferguson effect, or they're

774
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: going to involve deadly forced sooner. Neither of those are

775
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: good outcomes for people. You're apprehended by a cop and

776
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 1: you say, hey, wait a minute, I need by inhale

777
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: or I can't breathe, and that cop doesn't help you

778
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: and you die. What do you think your family is

779
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: gonna say? You're gonna tolerate that? You think that doesn't

780
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: send us back in a humane society we live in.

781
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 1: To answer that question, yeah, I'm curious about the I'm

782
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: curious about the twenty separate criminal encounters this individual heads

783
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: and how he prayed on the community. How many no, no, no,

784
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: how many black people were harmed because he was willing

785
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: to deal drugs at the local elementary and junior high school.

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00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: How many people were harmed because as associated as part

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Speaker 1: of his drug activity, there could have been drive by

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Speaker 1: I'm Mommy Horowitz and I'm here in the Pacific Northwest,

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Speaker 1: the American home of the BDS movement Boycott, divestment and

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Speaker 1: sanction of Israel. I want to see if these guys

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Speaker 1: are willing to take it to the next level on

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Speaker 1: We're raising money for American friends for Commas. We're not

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Speaker 1: your father's terror organization. You kind of evolved beyond that

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Speaker 1: still kind of what we do, but we've kind of

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Speaker 1: rebuilt and rebranded ourselves and uh, you know, you know

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Speaker 1: Comus is where we're raising money to do we you know,

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Speaker 1: we do is com us if we want to fund

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Speaker 1: operations against Israel, and you know, the type of attached

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Speaker 1: talking about our cafes and schools and you know, soft

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Speaker 1: targets type operations we're talking about against you know, soft targets,

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Speaker 1: schools and cafes and that kind of thing make them

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Speaker 1: feel it civilian populations, and that's the only way you

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Speaker 1: can fight back. Really. The suicide bombers always gags, but

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Speaker 1: I like the sound of what you're doing. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like the great thing to do, totally against the Israeli. Awesome,

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Speaker 1: we just want to get rid of Israel. And you

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Speaker 1: know it's for the it's for the Palestinians. If you

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Speaker 1: feel like donating to help the cause to fight back,

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Speaker 1: and that'd be great, and maybe consider making donation great,

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Speaker 1: Probably that'd be great, dollars and maybe like ten dollars,

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Speaker 1: ten bucks, ten dollars, ten bucks, let's say twenty seven dollars,

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Speaker 1: since that seems to be my Bernie donation. Piece and

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Speaker 1: love you believe piece is important, right of course, but

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Speaker 1: we got to get piece. You first got to destroy

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Speaker 1: some stuff. You know. See a man, all right, that's

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Speaker 1: our friend Amy Horowitz, who was at the University of

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Speaker 1: Portland or the campus of Portland State University rather, and

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Speaker 1: he's asking these students if they will donate to a

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Speaker 1: very worthy cause. The terrorist group Hamas now Hamas has

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Speaker 1: in their charter that of course they want the destruction

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Speaker 1: of Israel. So Amy Harrowitz is raising money so that

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Speaker 1: they can attack soft targets, you know, schools and cafes

848
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: and and kill and his innocent men, women and children,

849
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,439
Speaker 1: students gave him over three hundred dollars and how many

850
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: signed the petition? No petition, just just a fundrais what

851
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: do you do with the three hundred bucks? Because it's

852
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: technically illegal for me to raise actual cash under false pretenses.

853
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: You had to give it right back to them. I

854
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: had to I'd actually keep any money. So you gave

855
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: it back to him. They were pulling out the money

856
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: and told to go to a website where they can

857
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: donate the money. That was not real. Actually the it

858
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: was the idea. It was the idef website. Look, I

859
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: don't mean to are they stupid or are they ignorant?

860
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you're sitting there saying we're going to attack

861
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: soft targets, schools, cafes, and you're saying you're attacking the

862
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: Israelis are friends and that you're aligned with a terrorist organization.

863
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: Is it I'm playing people's advocate here? Is it that

864
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: they don't know who Hamas is, That they don't understand

865
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: that Israel is our friend? Do they not understand that

866
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: a school or a cafe is not a soft target.

867
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: Let may first of all, I have to be honest

868
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: with you, Sean. I was kind of afraid that coming

869
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: in here today, this whole video was a ruse. You

870
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: wanted to bring me into to beat me up a

871
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: Ksic anymore. So we're not doing anymore, right? Did you

872
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: come in to be funny and be a wise ass

873
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: or what? How many states did your friend John Kin?

874
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, one, he

875
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: won one state and he still thought he was going

876
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: to be president. I mean, like I like John Kesic

877
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: and there's nothing to do with it mathematically couldn't win

878
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: do I can get you on this all right? So no,

879
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: they were let us be clear if they didn't know

880
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: who Hamas was. I explained very clearly that we are

881
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: a terrorist organization looking to kill Israeli civilians for them

882
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: to pay the price of what they did to quote

883
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: unquote those air quotes, those who can't see our people.

884
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: And I could not have been more clear about who

885
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: we're trying to attack place of worship. Like you said,

886
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: Cafe Sole, ask this is it any chance that oh

887
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: people can't stand up and speak up for themselves, so

888
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: they're cornered and they're scared, and they're afraid, and they

889
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: were they were thrilled to donate. Listen, one guy said

890
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: at all. He said, this year, I learned about what's

891
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: going on in your country, and now I'm happy to help.

892
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm through his worlds where I'm thrilled. There's a very

893
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: and this is not an anomaly. You did this again.

894
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: What do you mean we have taped from Minneapolis. Alright,

895
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: just a scary by the way, by the way, this

896
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: is so scary that kids are this stupid, this ignorant,

897
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: and this gullible. But you're you're giving them way too

898
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: much credit. It's not about ignorance stupid. You think they're evil.

899
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: You think they literally want to blow up schools and

900
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: cafes for the terrorist group Hamas. I think they're very

901
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. And you think that students are comfortable

902
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: with the idea of aligning with a terrorist organization. I

903
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: think they're extremely comfortable. And you don't think they have

904
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: You think they are fully aware that Hamas's charter calls

905
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: for the destruction of Israel. Well, I in in the

906
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if they know the charter, but I

907
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: specifically said we're calling part of what we want to do.

908
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: I said it to destroy Israel and wipe it off

909
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: the map. Let me give you a real quick So Nick,

910
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: the Great Nick cave and the Caveman, and and Ecclesiastics,

911
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: both of them both said it's beautiful quote, which is,

912
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: if you are going to be cruel to the kind,

913
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: ultimately you will be kind to the cruel. And this

914
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: is exactly that manifestation of that. Okay, the sickness at

915
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: these professors are putting into this garbage into their heads.

916
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 1: The manifestation of this is they are kind to the cruel.

917
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: They are kind and loving and generous to Hamas unbelievable.

918
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: By the way, we have some some new information about

919
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: this Egypt Air flight eight oh four, and he had

920
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: sixty nine people on board, over fifty five of them

921
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: were passengers. Anyway, we now have confirmed reports that the

922
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: Islamic State terror group has indeed taken responsibility for that

923
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: act of terror. We have other information. Our Homeland Security

924
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: chairman says there's many signs the point to terrorism in

925
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: the Egypt air crash. And Donald Trump immediately out of

926
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: the box. Oh, he was like excoriated by Hillary for

927
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 1: thinking the unthinkable that it might have been terror. There

928
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: was a a post out today by my friend while

929
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: E Shubat, and he actually interpreted that the Muslim pilot

930
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: on flight eight oh four converted the plane into a

931
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: portable mosque and said farewell before he crashed the plane

932
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: and slaughtered everybody. And it the quote was, I was

933
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: the captain in the plane that is missing in one

934
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: of my journeys, the kindest of pilots I traveled with.

935
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: May Allah have mercy on him and give patience to

936
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: his family. I hope you read my words of prayer

937
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: to him and the rest of the passengers. Wow, what

938
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: I flow in Egypt there? Yeah, good luck. I'm not

939
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: going on Egypt. They're not happening. I'll go on l

940
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm not going on Egypt there. So you did it

941
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: for the money and you knew you were taking your

942
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: life in your three hundred bucks. You know, what's what's

943
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 1: the real price of a life worth in this world?

944
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: So we've got terrorism everywhere, we have all these terrorist organizations,

945
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: and we've got kids on college campuses. That's pretty scary.

946
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: All right. Now, let's go to the Minneapolis case. You

947
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: ask Muslims if it's easier to be a Muslim in America.

948
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: The Muslims say, you know, it's good to be Muslims

949
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: in this country. They love the freedom that America offers them.

950
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: They love freedom of religion and speech. And then you

951
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: ask if they prefer American law or Sharial law, and

952
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: many of them say sharia. Let's listen. Is it easy

953
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: to be Muslim in America? Where is it? Or is

954
00:53:53,760 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: it hard? Don't gives your problems? And you go to

955
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: school here, obviously, and the kids are they good to you?

956
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: Are they nice to you? Or they Is is it

957
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: a tough Is it tough? Oh? Yeah, it's not tough.

958
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: It's not tough at all. This is a free country.

959
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of it. So we love America. I mean,

960
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great country. Freedom of speech, freedom

961
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 1: of choice, ful fuel religion. So we don't have any issues.

962
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: Do you feel more comfortable living under American law or

963
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: do you feel more comfortable living under Sharia law? Uh?

964
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:36,839
Speaker 1: Sharia law. I'm almost yes, you prefer Sharia law over

965
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: American law? Of course, you of course. And do you

966
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: find most of your friends? Uh say I feel the

967
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: same way. Yeah, of course. If you're a most Sharia

968
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: says she steals something the corfian. So basically differently, their doors,

969
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 1: their stores, doors open. Nobody's going to steal anything because

970
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: the Sharia is so tight. Usually they don't do anything.

971
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: The smallest thing is usually a big consequences. Trying to

972
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: make his daughter marry somebody. Yeah he can, Yeah he can,

973
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: he has yeah to do that. Yeah. So here, how

974
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: young do you think it's? Okay? Well, we know how

975
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: old Mohammed was when he actually married a girl that

976
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: wasn't even double digits nine years old. Uh one one

977
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: report has that at seven or eight. All right, So

978
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this. So they're talking about

979
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: Sharia law that should usurp traditional American law. This goes

980
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: to the heart of an argument I have been making

981
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 1: on this program for many years, and that is that

982
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: there's this massive cultural divide and if you grow up

983
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: under Sharia, let's say you want to come from a

984
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: Muslim country. And a lot has been talked about regarding

985
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and his temporary band because our director of Intelligence,

986
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,000
Speaker 1: our FBI director of Special loomboy to defeat isis all

987
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: said that isis will infiltrate the refugee population. But it's

988
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: do you want to come here and do you want

989
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: to bring Sharia with you? Do you want to tell

990
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: your daughter what to wear when she has to marry.

991
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: Do you want to tell a woman if she can

992
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: leave the house or drive a car or go to school.

993
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: Do you want to bring a law or a system

994
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: of laws that are so contradictory to our American constitution

995
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: that you need four male eyewitnesses as a woman to

996
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: prove rape. That's a question. I don't know how you

997
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: answer that question. Listen that the normal immigration pattern for

998
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 1: somebody coming to this country is that the successive generations

999
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: become more and more integrated in US society. Right if

1000
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: you look across the immigration spectrum around the world. Now

1001
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: you're talking about Great Britain, the United States, No, no no,

1002
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 1: no, no no, I'm talking about Mexicans coming here. I'm talking

1003
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: about Irish people coming here. They assimilate whatever they assimilate.

1004
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: The problem we have with Islamic immigration is that the

1005
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: first generation, for the most part, whether they're coming here

1006
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: or even to Europe, those people, for the most part,

1007
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 1: they just want a life, a new life, a job

1008
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: that they want what every other immigrant has. The problem

1009
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: is is that Oddly enough, their children and their grandchildren

1010
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: become more and more radicalized, and the numbers show that

1011
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: out pure research. The alarming poll about the radicalism of

1012
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: the second and third generations Islamic immigrants in this country,

1013
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: about the support for terrorism, but their way they feel

1014
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: about al Qaeda, it was a shocking report. Well, we

1015
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: also have a model that we can look to out

1016
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: of Europe. For example, who would ever think the Great

1017
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: Britain of all countries has eighty eight separate Shariah courts.

1018
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: In other words, Muslim immigrants have their own court system

1019
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: apart from what every other citizen in Great Britain Britain

1020
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: has um. If you look at Germany, we see the

1021
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: problems unfolding there because of the migration issue. France is

1022
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: another fantastic example. Radicalism and non assimilation has gotten to

1023
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: the point that after the Paris attacks, fifty seven people

1024
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: that were on the watch list, the terror watch list,

1025
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: we're working at the airport. Many of them will still

1026
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: working at the airport when Egypt Air flight eight oh

1027
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: four left Charles de Gaul Airport. Now, if you're not

1028
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 1: even gonna remove for fear of being called racist or islamophobic,

1029
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna move people on the terrorist watch

1030
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: list because you want to be that politically correct. Your

1031
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: society's over, it's been taken over. Full islamaization is in place.

1032
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: Look I I was after they Charlie Hadde attacks. I

1033
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: went to the no go areas in Marseille and I

1034
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: filmed there for five Wait a minute, they don't exist.

1035
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: According to some people, You and I are the only

1036
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: two people that know they exist and will say they exist.

1037
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: They kind of sort of exist. Oh they call them

1038
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: no go but they're really not fully noga. Okay, well,

1039
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 1: let's talk about the people that I've interviewed that have

1040
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: been a no no go zones. We had a report

1041
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: on Fox years ago where literally the police say that's

1042
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: as far as we'll go. They won't go into some neighborhoods.

1043
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't see that. But having said that,

1044
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: but you're not the world traveler, how long did you

1045
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: spend trying to go into no gos homes? I spent

1046
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: quite a good time. Three days, yeah some of that, yea,

1047
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 1: three three full days exactly. I ate. I had coffee there,

1048
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: all right. So my point where coffee and the di

1049
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: did they know you were Jewish, that that would be

1050
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 1: a problem, that would be a no go. You didn't

1051
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: wear the Star of David. I did not wear my

1052
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: Yamica on top of didn't wear you're not a Messianic Jewish.

1053
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: But I will say this that when I went to

1054
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: these areas in Marseilles and I interviewed on camera young

1055
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: kids about the Charlie Hebdoe attacks, almost uniformly they supported

1056
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: those attacks. Those attacks were not a in their view,

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Speaker 1: a blight on their religion. In fact, it was quite

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Speaker 1: the opposite. It's a badge of honor that people stood

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00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,959
Speaker 1: up to defend Mohammed when the Charlie Hebdo attacks. That's

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Speaker 1: the issue and the problem that we're dealing with, man,

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00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: it is radicalization is now with the point where it's

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Speaker 1: almost mainstream. We keep asking this one main question, all right,

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00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: where are the moderates. Why aren't the moderates in POB

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00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: Why aren't the moderates saying something? Is because they will

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00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: be viewed as apostates and they the cells will come

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01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: under attack and they don't want that. That happened, so

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01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of fear and intimidation within the community. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: what's your next what's your next operation? Do you know yet? Why?

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01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 1: I could tell you that, but then I would ruin

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Speaker 1: the entire thing. My whole thing is about surprise. What's

1071
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 1: your next operation? You have to tell me where stuff

1072
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: you do? Listen, it takes a lot of guts doing.

1073
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: It's sad. I'm gonna tell you something. It's sad what

1074
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Speaker 1: you just played from these kids in Portland, Portland was

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Speaker 1: at Portland State University. Yeah, it's sad. All right, mmy,

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Speaker 1: you're a halfway decent guy. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 1: Eight nine one. Well, you're a wise ass, so you

1078
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: deserve it. Right back eight one sewn. Baltimore on full

1079
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: alert tonight as the Baltimore cop has been found not

1080
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: guilty in the first of what is now a few

1081
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Speaker 1: trials forthcoming when we come back as promised wanted to Broderick,

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Speaker 1: Paula Jones, Kathleen Willie. They all came up in my

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Speaker 1: interview with Donald Trump last week, and we'll get their

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Speaker 1: reaction to that and more. Hey, all right, mmy, you

1085
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: ever your computer crash? Absolutely time? Did you ever get

1086
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: ransomware virus yet where you can huter shuts down and

1087
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: you gotta pay ransom to get your computer working again.

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01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Yeah, you don't know, Yes, come on, seriously,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen I see that. Get out of here.

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Speaker 1: All right? What about what Clinton has done? How big

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Speaker 1: an issue should that be in the campaign? For example,

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Speaker 1: I I looked at the New York Times. Are they

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01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: going to interview one need to Broderick? Are they going

1094
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: to interview Paula Jones? Are they going to interview Kathleen Willie?

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01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: In one case it's about exposure. In another case it's

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01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: about groping and fondling and touching against a woman's will,

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01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: and rape and rape, big settlements, massive settlement dollars Jones,

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Speaker 1: lots of other things, and impeachment for line smearing, the

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Speaker 1: smirchman of wising your law license. You know, he lost

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Speaker 1: his law license. Okay, I couldn't practice law. And you

1101
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: know read about this on Clinton now the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: And if you look at Stephanopolis, Uh, these are like

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01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: the pipe organs for Hillary Clinton. All right. That was

1104
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Speaker 1: my interview with Donald Trump last week. And yes, it

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01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: was a big deal that he made you of the

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Speaker 1: R word talking about Jannita Broderick and joining us now

1107
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Speaker 1: Kathleen Willie, author of the book Target Caught in the

1108
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton, wanted to Broderick, who

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Speaker 1: I interviewed many years ago, is with us as well.

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Speaker 1: And Paula Jones, well, she actually won her lawsuit against

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01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton and made a payout, but the long story

1112
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Speaker 1: behind the all three of these women, welcome all of

1113
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Speaker 1: you back to the program. H Hey, let me start

1114
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Speaker 1: with Janita. Wanita, did you see the interview last week

1115
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: and when I was going through these issues with Donald

1116
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: Trump and he jumped in before I got to what

1117
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: you had told me now on a number of occasions

1118
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: that Bill Clinton raped you. Yes, I did see it,

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01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: and and even though it was hard to hear, I

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Speaker 1: think I've told you several times that it's hard for

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Speaker 1: me to say the word rape. I always usually say

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Speaker 1: sexual assault. But rape is the perfect terminology for what happened.

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Speaker 1: What did it make you feel? You know? Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: one said that women make allegations should be believed and trusted.

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Speaker 1: I guess except in the case of anybody that makes

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Speaker 1: an accusation against her husband exactly. She doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: hear that, Wanita. I'm not going to ask you again today.

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Speaker 1: I know every time I have asked you, it's painful

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Speaker 1: for you to go back and tell the entire story.

1130
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Speaker 1: And we actually replayed part of my last interview with

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Speaker 1: you on this program last week. What I want to

1132
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: focus in on though today with you is you were

1133
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: at this conference in Little Rock with a friend of yours,

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Speaker 1: at a nursing conference, and she saw you immediately after

1135
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: this event happened where he did assault you, correct, right,

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01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: within twenty or thirty minutes. Yeah, And she saw that

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01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 1: your your lip was was puffed up and bleeding, and

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01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: she saw you were in such distress, and you told

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Speaker 1: her right then what had happened? Is that? Correct? Yes,

1140
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Speaker 1: I did immediately, Norma. Norma Rogers was her name back then,

1141
01:03:56,760 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: but it's Norman Chelsey now and she has corroborated did

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01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: There's many many times that you told her right then

1143
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: and there? Right? And how many other people want needed

1144
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: did you tell at the time? Probably four or five? Right,

1145
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: and all of those people. I know you had a

1146
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: boyfriend at the time you told him, correct. And who

1147
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: were the other two people? The other three people were

1148
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: uh enormous sister Jean Garden and Susan Lewis, who was

1149
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 1: a dear friend. I was god godmother to her children.

1150
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: And Kathleen uh Emerson at the time was her name,

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01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: it's now Kriggler. She was my roommate in nurses training. Yeah,

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01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: and they've all been they've all corroborated that you told

1153
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: them at the time, because a lot of questions people

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01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: of raizo, Well, why did one need a broderick not

1155
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: tell her story back at the time. Now, the person

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton at the time was the attorney general of

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Speaker 1: the state of Arkansas. Correct, Oh, that's right, you know,

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01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: who would say anything against him? Yeah, And I wanted

1159
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: to do was to forget about it and go home.

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Speaker 1: And that is not an uncommon reaction. As a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, I think it happens more often than not.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that true? Haven't we learned that over the years

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01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: as it relates to Bird. Yeah, And when you told

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Speaker 1: these women, did any of them suggest that you reported

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01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: to the police. No, one person that I talked to,

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01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: I think they agreed this was just something I couldn't do.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable because of the power of the man that we're

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01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: talking about here. And then he callously after this all

1169
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: took place, and you had a fat, bloody lip. I'll

1170
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: never forget the first time I met you. I went

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Speaker 1: down to Arkansas and I interviewed you in your home

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Speaker 1: and you you told me the story where you said, here,

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Speaker 1: you better throw some ice on this, and he walked out, calmly,

1174
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: walks to the door and puts on his sunglasses and

1175
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: turns and says, you better put some ice on that.

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Speaker 1: I was shocked. And tell the story about Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: and how you had a meeting sometime after that where

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Speaker 1: you met her and she knew who you were. Had

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01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: you ever met her before? No, I had never met

1180
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: her before, and I had to be pointed out to her.

1181
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Speaker 1: As I've told you, Sean, I went through this gathering

1182
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: for him. I was still in a state of shock

1183
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: and felt like it was my fault. I felt like

1184
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: it was my fault and I just had to accept

1185
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: it for letting him come to my room. That was

1186
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 1: just how we felt back then. Yeah, you were going

1187
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: to have coffee with him. You wanted to pursue some

1188
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 1: issues that you cared about involving your profession of nursing.

1189
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: And he called you and said, oh, well, the coffee

1190
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: shop is crowded. Would you mind if I come up

1191
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: and have coffee upstairs with you. You think he's the

1192
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: attorney general. You didn't think it was a risk to

1193
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 1: you in anyway, and you invited a feelt apprehensive, But

1194
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: he was the attorney general. I mean I did not.

1195
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: I believed him. I believed it would not have been

1196
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: good to meet down in the coffee shop. I believed him.

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01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: I even ordered coffee to the room. You know, Linda,

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Speaker 1: semi the statistic the majority of sexual assaults are not

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Speaker 1: reported to the police. By the way, this is in

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Speaker 1: this day and age. An average of sixty percent of

1201
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: assaults in the last five years were not reported. I mean,

1202
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: that is a that is a very common thing. So

1203
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: why did you decide when you first were interviewed by

1204
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: Lisa Myers, Why did you decide to tell your story?

1205
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: I just felt it that that it was time that

1206
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: I had made a huge mistake by not coming forward

1207
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: sooner and by denying it. I had denied it, yep,

1208
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: because you're afraid. Oh yes, yes, I was afraid and

1209
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: tell everybody again about the Hillary encounter. So you you

1210
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: she knew who you were, even though you had never

1211
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: met her. Well, she didn't know who I was. I

1212
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: don't think until she came in the door. But my

1213
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: friend Chuck Watts, who was a pharmacist here uh in

1214
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: vain Buren, drove them from the airport and he came

1215
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: over to me. I was hoping to get out before

1216
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: they got there at this gathering after I gave him

1217
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: the information, and before I could, Chuck came over to

1218
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: me and said that that the topic of the conversation

1219
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: the entire way from the airport, which is about twenty minutes,

1220
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: was about me. And before I could get away out

1221
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: the door, I see somebody in the kitchen pointing her

1222
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 1: towards me, and she comes directly over to me and

1223
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: starts her little talk about how appreciative she was of

1224
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: everything I was doing in Bill's campaign, and I started

1225
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: to just leave. I I didn't want to have anything

1226
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: to do with her, and you felt that she knew

1227
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: arm in my hand, and she pulled me back into

1228
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 1: her and said, very low, she said, do you understand

1229
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 1: everything you do? And it frightened me. I had to

1230
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: say the least yours and my two friends and I left,

1231
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 1: And you had no doubt in your mind that she knew.

1232
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: I know she did. People have written on Twitter and

1233
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: other things for and he and Andrea Mitchell. And when

1234
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: when she was questioning me saying, well, how do you know?

1235
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 1: You know when somebody acts like she did toward me

1236
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: and pulls me into her so no one can hear

1237
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: her and says those words to me, I knew what

1238
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 1: she meant. She did what she meant. It's almost gives

1239
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: you a chill that that something like this could happen

1240
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: and that the wife would know. What does it mean

1241
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: to you? And then we're gonna get to Paula Uh,

1242
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 1: Paula Jones and Kathleen who are patiently standing by too.

1243
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: What does it mean to you two? Here Donald Trump

1244
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: take up your case? And what does it mean to

1245
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: you to hear Hillary Clinton go out campaigning on on

1246
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: gender issues and and protecting her husband after all these years. Oh?

1247
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 1: I think it's just disgusting what she's saying and what

1248
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: she's doing. And I'm so appreciative to Donald Trump for

1249
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: bringing it. I couldn't. It's very different felt for me

1250
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: to bring it forward because it's still too painful, but

1251
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate his efforts. Wow, that's a it's very hard.

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01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: I I've actually told people when I when I have

1253
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: been asked or interviewed by other people about meeting you,

1254
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: meeting Kathleen, meeting Paula, meeting Dolly Kyle, meeting other women,

1255
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: and they asked me, well, did you believe them? And

1256
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: I say A hundred thousand percent, and that that's my

1257
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: answer because that's what I believe. I remember looking you

1258
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: in the eye. It was very hard to do that

1259
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: interview when I first met you in Arkansas. I was

1260
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 1: it just was for me, you know. And by the way,

1261
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was hard for me. It's hard

1262
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Speaker 1: to hear this, you know. Paula, welcome back to the program.

1263
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Speaker 1: How are you. I'm good. How are you doing, paw

1264
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Speaker 1: you have you all ever met? I know Kathleen and

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01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 1: Paula have met. Have you? Have you all met? One?

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01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:58,600
Speaker 1: I have met, but I've never met Paula. Okay, and

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01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: I had not met Paula either. I talked to paul

1268
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: for the first time last week. All right, well, I

1269
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: know you all, so I have the benefit of knowing

1270
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: all of you individually. So, um, Paula, you know, so

1271
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 1: you were working for the government. Tell the story because

1272
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 1: this really ended up. This ended up with Bill Clinton

1273
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 1: losing his law license being impeached paying eight d and

1274
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars. You were very successful in your suit,

1275
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: but it wasn't easy for you. Tell everybody, bring us

1276
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,719
Speaker 1: back to that day you met him and what happened. Well,

1277
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:39,320
Speaker 1: I was working and at the Arkansas Industrial Developments Mission

1278
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: and I was asked to be UM to work the

1279
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: Governor's quality confront. That was Kennon. So me and one

1280
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: of my coworkers who is a good friend of mine

1281
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: at the time. UM we worked it together and we

1282
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: set out front in front of these tables in front

1283
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: of the ballroom. And during that time we were what

1284
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: they were waiting on Bill Clinton. And he was always

1285
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 1: known to be late every where he went and people

1286
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,879
Speaker 1: you know, with lotus about that. That was a lasting

1287
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: thing in Arkansas. And it was running late. So his

1288
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: security that was already there in place was coming up

1289
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: we're and talking with us and so you know, and

1290
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: we were we would ask him. I don't know if

1291
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm put to say his name or not, but anyway

1292
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: he was he was talking with us and everything, and

1293
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: we asked me, now are you carrying you know, packing again?

1294
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: So he showed this his gun on his uh up

1295
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: here on his side underneath his soup coat. And um,

1296
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: because he was in playing clothes, you know, which is

1297
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: slax and a and a jacket, certainly been talking with

1298
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: him and stuff and um, and then Bill Clinton came out,

1299
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: and um, he was doing an interview in front of

1300
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 1: us and in front of the table, and all the

1301
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 1: media and stuff was there, several media was there. And

1302
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 1: that's the first time I've ever seen him in my life.

1303
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: Was right there, and I was on the other side

1304
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: of table, sitting there working the complaint. And what I

1305
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: was doing was pat sent out brochures and stuff for

1306
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: different business people and leaders that were coming in, you know,

1307
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: to the conference, and giving him their name tags. Just

1308
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 1: what me and my co worker's job was. So we

1309
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: were staying there at the whole time. We were a

1310
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 1: man in the desk out front, so we weren't really

1311
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: leaving it much at all lest we had to go

1312
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: to the bathroom or something. So he came up in

1313
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: and he was doing an interview and he was kind

1314
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: of staring at us, over at us, and um, you

1315
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: could tell he was looking at us, And UM, isn't

1316
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: that something like a girl normally knows? I have three

1317
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: sisters you know, and I talked to my wife about

1318
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, if you're being quote checked out. Yeah. Yeah,

1319
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: By the way, that never happens to me. So I

1320
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 1: just want you to know. So I don't know what

1321
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: you're talking about. You you're just not No, it just

1322
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: never listen. I wish it did. I'd be able to

1323
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: say it happened. I have somebody checked me out. Look

1324
01:13:54,080 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: at that, but they don't. You notice it word for that, son,

1325
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 1: It's called It's called the Clinton. I sleep now now

1326
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,839
Speaker 1: I need Kathleen, I need to take a shower. Come on, seriously,

1327
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:14,640
Speaker 1: that's Hillary look giving you the Clinton. I sweet, Paula,

1328
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, paul Off. You're really you're you're ruining

1329
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: my life here, go ahead, so tell me so. So

1330
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: you're just sitting there doing your job. You had never

1331
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: seen you've never seen him before. He's and he's the

1332
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: governor at this point, correct, yes, and so also he's

1333
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: checking you out. Then what happens, well, and you know,

1334
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: and for all I know, he could have been checking

1335
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: out the pregnant world beside me too, you know, the

1336
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: way he's worthy his nail. But you know we didn't know,

1337
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: you think, so you know he went out and went

1338
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: in and we were out there and then um, the

1339
01:14:47,920 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 1: state trooper come over again and hung out this after

1340
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: he went inside and made sure he was wherever, I guess,

1341
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: and there was some others I think we've seen, and

1342
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 1: he was just kind of outside making sure nobody I

1343
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: guess busted in, you know, and um, he just hang

1344
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: out with this and then he would leave a little

1345
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: bit and they maybe come back, and and then hear

1346
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: a kabal. He said, hey, you said the governor would

1347
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: like to meet with you. Well, well, don't you want

1348
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 1: to meet When he says, okay, we do this all

1349
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: the time. He said he did this all the time.

1350
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: He's got a regular suite upstairs, and he said that

1351
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 1: all governors have this. Well, my first thing is I said, well,

1352
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go up there. And he said

1353
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: I always okay, you know, we do this all the time.

1354
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 1: And he said it's lack of an offer the governors

1355
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 1: have for meetings and steast stay right there. We're gonna

1356
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: pick Paula's story up when she's about to go up

1357
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: and meet Clinton in his suite and what happens. You

1358
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: just heard from Nita Broderick, Kathleen Willie will also tell

1359
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: her story. I know the mainstream media, the New York

1360
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 1: Times hasn't spent a lot of time featuring these women

1361
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 1: and their allegations. They tried to smear Trump last week,

1362
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,919
Speaker 1: but that didn't work out so well. Those stories were debunked.

1363
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 1: I want to send a message to every survivor of

1364
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: sexual assault. Don't let anyone sign your voice. You have

1365
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: a right to be heard and you have a right

1366
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: to be believed. We're with you. Right to be heard

1367
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 1: and a right to be believed, and don't let anybody

1368
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: silence you, unless, of course, your name is wanting to Broderick,

1369
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: Kathleen Willie, or Paula Jones, who we continue with. We

1370
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: had just heard from one e to Broderick and a

1371
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: harrowing story that she went through in a sexual assault.

1372
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: This came up last week when I was interviewing Donald Trump.

1373
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,799
Speaker 1: Paula Jones was in the middle of telling her story.

1374
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: She met then Governor Bill Clinton at a conference she

1375
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: worked for the state, and now she was being proposition

1376
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: to go up to his suite by I guess what

1377
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 1: one of his security guards. Yes, okay, so he says, oh,

1378
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: we do this all the time. It's Okay, you can

1379
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: come up to the suite. You're a little reluctant. Was

1380
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,680
Speaker 1: it just you or somebody else? Now, I mean I was.

1381
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: I was very reluctant. And I talked it over with

1382
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 1: my co worker and we're like, oh, maybe he wants

1383
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: to do something about you'll get us a different job

1384
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 1: of something there page. Of course, we're so stupid and

1385
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 1: that aid. You know, we're like twenty three years old,

1386
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: you know. And so I mean I was, I got excited.

1387
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,559
Speaker 1: I mean, why wouldn't I get excited? And I heard one?

1388
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I should not ever had the thought ever

1389
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 1: never crossed my mind I was going to go up

1390
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: there and he would do that? Ever, I mean I

1391
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: would never think that. So tell the story. So the

1392
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: guy walks you up to the suite for people who

1393
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 1: haven't heard it before, and there's a whole millennial generation

1394
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: that really does not know your stories. Now I've known

1395
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,200
Speaker 1: you all for years, You've all become friends of mine.

1396
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: I mean I have respect for all of you, um

1397
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: for those that have not heard So you won't go

1398
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: up to the suite, I guess the guy walked you

1399
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 1: up there. Oh you know what can y'all do hang on,

1400
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 1: I have a sheriff control sheriff guy at my house.

1401
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Can y'all go to somebody? Alright? Come back,

1402
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: that's all right, we'll pick it up. Listen, this is

1403
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: live radio, folks. That's a right. We'll get back to well, well,

1404
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 1: we exactly where to pick it up. We'll come get

1405
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: back to Paula Jones in a second. Kathleen Willie is

1406
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: also with us. Kathleen, this was a bad day in

1407
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: your life. You were struggling financially, your husband was distraught.

1408
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: You went to somebody you thought was a friend. He

1409
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: was the president at the time. I mean, it's interesting

1410
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: that the pattern of behavior continues because when he assaulted Juanita,

1411
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 1: he was the attorney general. When he did this with Paula,

1412
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 1: he was the governor. Now he's the president of the

1413
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: United States. He knew you correct, and you you had

1414
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: financial troubles. You needed a job. My husband had told

1415
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 1: me two weeks prior to that meeting, and that's some

1416
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 1: serious financial trouble that he had gotten himself into. And

1417
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, we were in serious financial's trouble. We had

1418
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,639
Speaker 1: one in college and one on who way to medical

1419
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 1: school and a nice life. He told me what was

1420
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: going on, and I mean he faced possible jail time.

1421
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 1: It was that serious. And um, he made a bad mistake.

1422
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 1: You know. I just said, well, I'm going to go

1423
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: to the president and ask him and tell him that

1424
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: I need a job. And I had absolutely no no

1425
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: trouble whatsoever and doing it. And I was I was

1426
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: criticism and all of the feminists believe it or not.

1427
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: After after that matter, who does she think she is going? Well?

1428
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: Because he was our friend, because we had started Virginia

1429
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: for Clinton, we had raised a lot of money for him.

1430
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: We had opened given them an office and my husband's

1431
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: suite of of of of law officers. We had seen

1432
01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 1: him on numerous occasions at different um different fund raises

1433
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 1: all over the state and in other states. We saw

1434
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,320
Speaker 1: him at the inaugural. I took up. I had a

1435
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 1: part in the inaugural. We were friends, and so when

1436
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 1: I went to see him, I asked to see him.

1437
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: I got a few minutes. He could see that I

1438
01:19:57,320 --> 01:19:59,559
Speaker 1: was set. I was more upset by the fact that

1439
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 1: I had not been able to contact him all day long.

1440
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: His opposite and nowhere is what his assistant didn't know

1441
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: where it was. I had called him fifteen time. I

1442
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: didn't know where he was. I was upset about that.

1443
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: And when I got into the Oval office, I was

1444
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: I was crying. I was that upset. And now let

1445
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: me just backtrack one second, Kathleen, go on, So you

1446
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 1: were able to get in because he knew you. You

1447
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,799
Speaker 1: worked to get him elected, you were on his campaign team.

1448
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,640
Speaker 1: I mean, not everybody gets in the Oval office. So

1449
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: he knew you well enough to schedule volunteer at the

1450
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: time in the Social office. So I was there at

1451
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 1: the time, right, So you were able to have access

1452
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: that very few people would have. He knew you by name,

1453
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: You're a friend of his. He took he gave you

1454
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: the meeting and then tell so you go in and

1455
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: you tell him that you have all these troubles. And

1456
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 1: then what happened, Well, the same kind of thing with

1457
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: Paula and with da. He said, well, well, let's go back.

1458
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: Would you like a cup of coffee? And I said guess,

1459
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: And so let's go back here to to my little

1460
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 1: kitchen and where we could have some privacy. And I thought,

1461
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: well that's okay. I mean I didn't think anything of it.

1462
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: So he there was a steward in there, and I

1463
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: noticed that he kind of ushered him out of the overalls,

1464
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: out of the whole area, and I really didn't pay

1465
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:21,440
Speaker 1: attention to it until afterwards. But anyway, he said, UM,

1466
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: poured my cup of coffee, and he said, let's go

1467
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: sit in my study here where we can talk while

1468
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: that was the study. As I found out later, were

1469
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: he in mind? So I used to meet and so

1470
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 1: I knew I had a very short window of time.

1471
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: And he sat down an end chair, and I never

1472
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: did I just leaned up against the door dram and

1473
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: I told him what was going on. And I just said,

1474
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 1: we're in We're in deep financial trouble. My husband could

1475
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: go to jail. He's embarrassed, he's ashamed of himself, he's

1476
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: done a bad thing. I've got to help him. I

1477
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: need a job, and if if there's anything that you

1478
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 1: can do to help me, I would be most appreciatives,

1479
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: you know. And I just said, it doesn't have to

1480
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: be here, it doesn't have to be in the White House.

1481
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,919
Speaker 1: If it could be a Richmond, a federal job in Richmond,

1482
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: that would really be be a big help. But I

1483
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 1: need a job, and I'm asking you for help. But

1484
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: there was a little bit more small talk. I think

1485
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 1: he was asking me a few more details. And I

1486
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 1: was in a hurry to get out of there because

1487
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: I knew they had fit me in and that I

1488
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: knew that he had a meeting after that. That's all

1489
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: I knew. And so I thank him for time, I think,

1490
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: and I said, and and I hope that you will

1491
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: consider helping me. You at this point, you're my best option.

1492
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 1: So as I turned to leave to head out towards

1493
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: the door, back into the old office, the next thing

1494
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: I knew, he had me back into a corner that

1495
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: all over me, you know, whispering in my ear. I

1496
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. I could I was. It

1497
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 1: was just like Paula, and my name is you know,

1498
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't You don't know what to do, and I'm

1499
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,120
Speaker 1: thinking of myself, what in the world is he doing?

1500
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 1: That's all I could think of, was what is he doing?

1501
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,160
Speaker 1: And he started and let me help you out, because

1502
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 1: I it's very uncomfortable to ask you all to tell

1503
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 1: the story again, although I know there's new audience here,

1504
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: but you're talking about he assaulted you. He did what

1505
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 1: his hands his hands up my skirt. He put my

1506
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: hand on his crutch. I mean, you know, he he

1507
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: had his hands on my breast. I mean his hands

1508
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: were all over me, whispering in my ear that I've

1509
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 1: been wanting to do this the first time I I've

1510
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: met you, I saw you, and I'm saying my mind

1511
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: is racing and I'm thinking. And I remember saying to him,

1512
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm should afraid somebody's gonna walk in here, like Hilaris

1513
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: or anybody. And he said, no, Now I know where

1514
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: everybody is all the time. At that point, his aid,

1515
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: Andrew Friendly started banging on the door, saying, Mr President,

1516
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: you have meeting that the people waiting for you, and

1517
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 1: he totally ignored it. I thought to myself, here here's

1518
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: my out, and he totally ignored it. And he really

1519
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 1: had me overpowered. He's a big man and I'm not.

1520
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm little and and um now I'm five

1521
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 1: to three on a good day. It's just that this

1522
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: sounds how long did this go on? How long did

1523
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,679
Speaker 1: this go on for? You know, it seems like forever,

1524
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: but you know, I guess maybe three or four minutes,

1525
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that long. You know, it's just at least

1526
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,879
Speaker 1: three or four minutes maybe maybe, so you know, listening

1527
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 1: to you and listening to Wannita. Remember, for Juanita, it's

1528
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: when he's attorney general. For Paula, it's when he's the

1529
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 1: governor of Arkansas. For in your case, it's when he's

1530
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: President of the United States. And by the way, and

1531
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: then on top of that, then we have consensual incidences

1532
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 1: where he had a long term affair with Jennifer Flowers

1533
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: and other women, and and then the whole Monica Lewinsky

1534
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: thing comes up. And so you're talking about a serial predator.

1535
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you that's what the three of

1536
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: you are describing, and not somebody that's changed over time. Yeah,

1537
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 1: let me ask that. I guess the next most important thing.

1538
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: So you finally get out of there, then your your

1539
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:21,520
Speaker 1: life changed forever because you lost your husband that day.

1540
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: He committed So he committed suicide that day, and now

1541
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: your life is now. You don't know what to think

1542
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: or do. Did you ever hear from him again after that?

1543
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 1: When he called me when he found out the next

1544
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: day when I went to see him, it was on

1545
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 1: the Monday after Thanksgiving. I spent the entire night after

1546
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 1: I got home at the back towards me because I

1547
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 1: was committed with the Englishman and Washington on the train.

1548
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: I spent half of the night looking for him anywhere,

1549
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 1: and you didn't you didn't know. You didn't know that

1550
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 1: he had committed suicide till the next day, and then

1551
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,959
Speaker 1: Clinton called you after a nobody had heard from him,

1552
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 1: and I was calling his friends. I was going, I

1553
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 1: was checking bars, I was anywhere in anywhere, anywhere that

1554
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: he could have been, and I couldn't find him. I've forgotten.

1555
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: I was in such a state that I stopped at

1556
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 1: a friend at quote unquote friend's house and just a panic,

1557
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:25,640
Speaker 1: because she lived near me, to tell her that I

1558
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 1: couldn't find him and what was going on. And I

1559
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 1: told her just very quickly, and I said, and on

1560
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: top of all that, you'll you know, you'll you'll never

1561
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:38,480
Speaker 1: guess what happened to me in the overlapice. And it's unbelievable.

1562
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: How many people did you tell at the time? I

1563
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 1: told her that night. I told Linda Trip after it happened,

1564
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: when because she was I was working with that I

1565
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 1: ran it. I went to Sere to tell her, and

1566
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 1: then I told um, another woman who I worked with

1567
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 1: in the um in the Social Office, who is no

1568
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: longer alive. And I told another woman later later on.

1569
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: And all these women are on the record as saying

1570
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: you told them at the time too, just like one

1571
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: Eia right, yes. But but but one of them, the

1572
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 1: one that had been my friend for twenty years, was

1573
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: brought out by the Clintons and turned and tried to

1574
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: turn me into a complete liar. And I mean, this

1575
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 1: woman didn't know anything about Washington or how it worked.

1576
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, shoot showed up with the

1577
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: most powerful attorneys in Washington signing all kinds of app

1578
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: to David's about about all about my going and telling

1579
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: her what had happened. And this is so I'm running

1580
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: out of I'm running out of time here, so I

1581
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 1: want to make sure and and one needed this is

1582
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 1: for you to both of you experienced intimidation. And Kathleen,

1583
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: you were intimidated. Correct. My children's lives were written, Sean.

1584
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 1: People came up to you tell that story. Two days

1585
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: before my deposition in Paula's case, I was out jogging

1586
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 1: early one morning. I live in a very rural area.

1587
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:13,720
Speaker 1: It's hard to find me. I was new here. I

1588
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 1: hadn't met all my neighbors. I had a lot of

1589
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:22,640
Speaker 1: strange things happened to me. Pet disappeared, pets killed, carves, vandalized,

1590
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 1: you name it. All kinds of strange phone calls. And

1591
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 1: a man approached me who looked like a jogger, and

1592
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: he stopped me and he asked me if I had

1593
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 1: ever found like a cat. First really serious thing to

1594
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: happened was that one of my cats disappeared into thin air.

1595
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: And I put signs up his name, everything and my

1596
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: phone number. And he said, did you ever find Bob?

1597
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: And I said no, I no, I didn't and I

1598
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: am still looking for him. What happened? What wanted? What

1599
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: happened to you? In terms of intimidation, Because every woman

1600
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,879
Speaker 1: that has spoken out, even the women that just had affairs,

1601
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 1: their names were smeared and slandered and besmirched. And this

1602
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,200
Speaker 1: even happened to you last week with Andrew Mitchell. Oh

1603
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 1: isn't that the truth? I was just shocked when she

1604
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: came out with that announcement on the television. Um, I

1605
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: have not had what Kathleen has. I've never had experienced

1606
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: someone coming and actually threatened me. I know I've been

1607
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: followed back before the dateline interview by numerous people who

1608
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 1: would just follow me around town. But as far as

1609
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: being threatened other than when I talked with Hillary, No,

1610
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 1: I have not been. And by the way, when Andrew

1611
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: Mitchell says that your story was discredited and it was

1612
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 1: her colleague Lisa Myers, when NBC was not going to

1613
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: air your interview at one point and they were, you know, free,

1614
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 1: Lisa Myers free wanting to Broderick. Button's popping up and

1615
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: they got pressured into doing it. Um, she called you

1616
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: and said the problem is you're too credible. You No,

1617
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: Lisa called me instead. There's good news and news bad news.

1618
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: The good news is you're credible. The bad news is

1619
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: you're too credible. In other words, that they watched the

1620
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: tape and they're like, oh my gosh, this woman is

1621
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 1: telling the truth. Yeah, that's why they held it till

1622
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 1: after the impeachment. I'm positive. Yeah, I think you had

1623
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 1: an exclusive with them and you had granted it. But

1624
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 1: I gotta run. Um, thank you both for being with us.

1625
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Um, I will know we'll talk

1626
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: again one Aeda. Broderick, Kathleen Willie and I know I

1627
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 1: speak for a lot of people were all sorry that um,

1628
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: that you have gone through everything you've gone through. We're

1629
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: gonna check in with Paul Jones. We hope she's okay

1630
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 1: and that it was nothing serious. Thank you all for

1631
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 1: being with us, appreciate it. Thanks Sean