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Speaker 1: Warning, Today's episode contains spoilers for thirty years of Pokemon

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Speaker 1: and various Disney animal friends. Hello, my name is Carmen

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Speaker 1: and my name's a Boo, and welcome back to X

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Speaker 1: ray Vision Podcast, where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics,

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Speaker 1: and pop culture. We're here at iHeart Podcast, where we'll

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Speaker 1: be bringing you three episodes a week and news on Saturdays.

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Speaker 2: And in today's episode, we are going to be looking

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Speaker 2: at two behemoths in the animation world, Pokemon and Disney Pokemon.

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Speaker 2: To start out, Carmen, you and I are going to

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Speaker 2: be looking back at our own personal journeys over the

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Speaker 2: last thirty years, not to date ourselves, but over the

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Speaker 2: last thirty years of Pokemon, given that it's the thirty

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Speaker 2: year anniversary of the franchise. We'll talk about our favorite Pokemon,

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Speaker 2: our fondest memories with it, the past, present, and where

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Speaker 2: we hope the future of the franchise will go. And

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Speaker 2: then later in the episode, I'm going to dip out

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Speaker 2: and you'll be joined by Joelle to draft your favorite

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Speaker 2: Disney creatures, sticking with the animated creatures theme for today.

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Speaker 1: All right, but first we're going to go to Professor

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Speaker 1: Oaks Lab to talk about our fondest memories of Pokemon. Aboo,

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Speaker 1: start us out with tell us about what are your

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Speaker 1: earliest fondest memories of the Pokemon franchise.

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Speaker 2: I will get to that, but since we're at Professor

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Speaker 2: Oaks Lab, I just want your thoughts. Carmen, real quick.

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Speaker 2: Yes he's fucking ashes mom.

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, yes, right, absolutely absolutely. I think in the

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Speaker 1: grown up version of Pokemon we would get a ash.

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Speaker 1: I am your father sort of dead.

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Speaker 2: I am your right right, Okay, great, I'm glad we're

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Speaker 2: in the same boat there. Okay, to answer your question, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, looking back at thirty years of Pokemon, the

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Speaker 2: franchise has played a pretty big role in my life.

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Speaker 2: Like I played Pokemon Yellow Back Gosh, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: early two thousand's when I was still like eight nine

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Speaker 2: my game Boy Advance. But I also of course got

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Speaker 2: as kids, but I would rent the Pokemon movies or

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Speaker 2: Pokemon episodes that you could get on VHS and then

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Speaker 2: I would rip them onto my own VHS. So like

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Speaker 2: I've been pirating stuff since I was like eight years old.

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Speaker 1: Amazing.

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Speaker 2: But I think, if I had to give you one answer,

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Speaker 2: I think my fondest memories of Pokemon are playing Pokemon Ruby.

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Speaker 2: There was just like an amazing summer where I played

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Speaker 2: he'd either come over here. Our moms would make mac

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Speaker 2: And I distinctly remember, for example, one like sunny summer's day,

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Speaker 2: We're sitting underneath my window in my bedroom, h because

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Speaker 2: back in the day, back in the day, the Game

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Speaker 2: was so hard to see that shit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you had to either have the expensive accessories, or

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Speaker 2: Daylight, or you had to like get a DS or

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Speaker 2: I just have really fond memories of that summer day

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Speaker 2: where we caught ray quoset. We were like sitting under

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Speaker 2: And so I just have really fond memories of that.

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Speaker 2: What about you, though, what's your thirty year journey with

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, I think it's it's great that you

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Speaker 1: so I think we had that very similar experience growing

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Speaker 1: At school, I had the ash ketchum Hat. I had

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Speaker 2: Well that's back when we were kids. I'm curious what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are you still as attached? You know, I've tried.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the nostalgia has kept me around,

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Speaker 1: and I'm constantly seeking that high from from that Pokemon

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Speaker 1: Ruby kind of generation. The I kind of after Pokemon Ruby,

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Speaker 1: I fell out of Pokemon for a while, actually, until

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Speaker 1: I played Pokemon Uh Sun and Moon, and I played

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Speaker 1: Omega Ruby and Sapphire. Yeah, but then I started to

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Speaker 1: to the Nintendo Switch. You know, I bought and played

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Speaker 1: all the games. Sure, yeah, Yeah, I didn't feel as

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Speaker 1: about you, aboo?

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Speaker 2: What was Honestly, I'm sitting here wondering how we had

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's a generational age thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got real after Ruby and Sapphire.

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Speaker 2: Life got real after Ruby and Sapphire, you know. And

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Speaker 2: then in college I bought a three DS and I

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Speaker 3: And I had a.

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Speaker 2: Blast playing it, But then life got real again. I

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Speaker 3: To pay rent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so like there's been these ebbs and flows

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Speaker 2: I'll get really into it again, and then I'll disappear

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Speaker 2: Nintendo Switch era for me, just like you, has been rocky, yes,

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Speaker 2: but the offshoot games are the things that have pulled

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I think the mainline games for me have become Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm not the target audience anymore. They're not the main

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Speaker 2: the Let's Go Pikachu, which I know was simplified and

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Speaker 2: but it has been the more experimental offshoot games that

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Speaker 1: Agreed. Agreed. The mainline games I've bought and I've played,

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Speaker 1: as like New Pokemon's Snap that was when that came

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Speaker 1: who has been playing the game for thirty years. I

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Speaker 1: game to be taught how the type yes, the typing works,

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Speaker 1: be taught that every single time, And that is a

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Speaker 1: I fire up a new Pokemon game is like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I know how to catch Pokemon, I know how to

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Speaker 1: take care of them and level up my Pokemon, right,

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Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, I think I think the offshoot games,

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Speaker 1: the spinoff games, have been the most entertaining for me

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Speaker 1: as well. And not to be you know, too recent

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Speaker 1: on this, but Pokemon Pocopia just came out, and I

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Speaker 2: I know, I know I don't have a switch too,

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Speaker 2: and it's exclusive to the switch too, and I legitimately

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Speaker 2: to best Buy and just buy a switch to like

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Speaker 2: impulse buy a switch too so I can play Pocopia.

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Speaker 1: I mean offshoot game.

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Speaker 2: It's not a mainline game. It's very experimental. It's trying

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Speaker 2: something new, and for me, thirty years into Pokemon, that's

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Speaker 2: what I'm looking for, and I'm not necessarily looking for

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Speaker 2: the nostalgic, same old experience I had, you know, twenty years.

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Speaker 1: Ago, correct, Yeah, same? And I think they each generation

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Speaker 1: they've introduced some gimmicks that have kind of like you know,

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Speaker 1: in the same way that the spinoffs are. Should we

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Speaker 1: talk about some of our.

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Speaker 2: The difference between Mega evolutions and z evolutions?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, exactly all of it. It's all just crazy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Should we talk about some of our favorite Pokemon? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to know, abo, what are your favorite Pokemon?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna have like very boy answers here. I'm

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Speaker 2: realizing because I'm looking at your list and it's dramatically different.

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Speaker 1: From there is definitely a gender like appeal there, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, let's remember I started playing Pokemon

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Speaker 2: when I was an eight year old boy. So I

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Speaker 2: think I have a couple. You know, I can't just

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Speaker 2: answer this with one. It would be there's like a

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Speaker 2: over a thousand Pokemon now. To be able to say

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Speaker 2: there's only one that's your all time favorite is stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna name name a couple. My old Charmander.

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Speaker 2: Loved Charmander as a kid, still love Charmander thirty years later.

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Speaker 1: What about your favorite evolution do you have?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Gosh, evolution is interesting because I love the original

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Speaker 2: three and I think I'm going to give another boring answer.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say Flarion the fire type.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Flarion's cute. That little firefox is really cute. What

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Speaker 1: is ev is EVI a fox or a rabbit or.

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Speaker 2: It depends on the evolution because some of the evolutions

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Speaker 2: suddenly become very cat like or cat and some of

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Speaker 2: the evolutions are like more dog puppy, So.

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Speaker 1: I think it depends, all right, what about any honorable mentions?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so as far as honorable mentions go, I have

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Speaker 2: soft spots for c Bone. I just think he's a

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Speaker 2: cutie and he's got a tragic bad story. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: I have a soft spot for him. I'm a dog lover,

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Speaker 2: so any of the dog type pokemon I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be a bit of a sucker for. But Growlit is

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Speaker 2: Growle withth Arkadege. Love those boys, they're good boys. I

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Speaker 2: been a fan of. Enta the Dog, I think Generation

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Speaker 2: the birds. There's the blue bird and the red bird.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Okay, well we're on the topic of favorite Pokemon.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Indigo Plateau. Guys. We're going to talk

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Speaker 2: Well, I think based on some research I did, and

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Speaker 1: And we didn't talk about that, but were you a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had the cards. I had the Pokemon cards.

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Speaker 1: Those are always huge drivers of the French, huge.

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Speaker 1: The plushies I'm I mean I have on my desk

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Speaker 1: believe I'm trying to collect the exclusive Pikachu.

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Speaker 2: Anime and you create cute anime characters for merch. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: You create a Pokemon based off of a te so

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Speaker 2: where we can talk about where we'd like to see

435
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: the brand go and the IP go. I think what's

436
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: interesting is like that's for better and worse, right, Like yeah,

437
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 2: because everything is has to like funnel back to merchandise.

438
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 2: It you could argue, I think that it stifles some

439
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 2: of the creativity and innovation and risk taking that the

440
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: Pokemon Company has done in the last thirty years, because

441
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: it all has to funnel back to we got to

442
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 2: sell cute plushies to adults and kids. So I'm curious

443
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: where your thoughts are at, Carmen. Where do you where

444
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: do you want to see Pokemon go in the future.

445
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 2: What should the next thirty years look like?

446
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Well, you know I wrote in the

447
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: notes here, I just want to see one time. Can

448
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: we get one time? Can we get that open world concept?

449
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 3: Right?

450
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: Yes, they have been like I really I this the

451
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: trailers for Sword and Shield, and the especially the trailers

452
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: for Scarlet and Violet. Like I kind of teared up

453
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: when I saw Scarlet and Violet trailers because I was like,

454
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: oh my god, an open world Pokemon. But then once

455
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: I played it, my uh, the reality set in. And

456
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: when I saw the trailer for Pokemon Wind and Waves,

457
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 1: I did, I did not get as excited. I'm holding my.

458
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: Breath, hold back the tears, hold back the tears.

459
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm holding my breath. It looks beautiful, it looks great,

460
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: but until we play it and we see that gameplay footage,

461
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: we don't know how it's going to be. I would

462
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: love for them to get the open world concept right

463
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: one one good time. But I do think for me,

464
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, as we've said already at the top, the

465
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: future of the Pokemon franchise is really kind of to

466
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 1: me in like the spinoff series. They've established this rich

467
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: world of like we have like an entire fictional globe

468
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: for Pokemon now that is like based off of all

469
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 1: of these real real world locations and stuff, and now

470
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: we can kind of go back into those worlds, revisit

471
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: those worlds from like the future or the past, like

472
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: they're doing in Legends Arcus. We can you know, do

473
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: more of like the Pokemons Snap, which was one of

474
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: my favorite games on the Switch more recently. And yeah,

475
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: I think the I think the spinoff games are are

476
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: going to be where the future of the Pokemon franchise goes.

477
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Speaker 1: I remember when I played Legends Arcus for the first time,

478
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: that is what I remember being like, Oh, this is

479
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: what I wanted. Yeah, Sword and Shield to feel like,

480
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: this is what I wanted, Yes, Scarlet and Violet to

481
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: feel like. So they haven't been able to bring that

482
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: to the manline series yet, but we'll see, we'll see.

483
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: We'll see, but I am hopeful recent moves like Pocopeia

484
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: and leaning into Legends Arcus like something tells me internally,

485
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 2: they're also having these same conversations where it's like, the

486
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: mainline games are the mainline games, but we're losing people

487
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: to them, especially people who are aging out of the

488
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: mainline games, because like the reality is, it's like, if

489
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: you are a thirty some year old person, the mainline

490
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: games are not for you the target audience. There's a

491
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 2: reason the mainline games like hold your hand and teach

492
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: you about gym battles and type battles over and over

493
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: every time. And it's not because this is meant to

494
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: be played by somebody who has spent thirty years playing Pokemon.

495
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: It's for the eight year old kid now who just

496
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 2: got to switch for Christmas and is going to play

497
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: their first Pokemon. Yeah, and then that person in thirty

498
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: years is going to be the one buying the merch

499
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: and investing all their money in Pokemon. So it's like

500
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: that's kind of a hard thing to squares because I

501
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: want the mainline games to feel like they did when

502
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 2: I was a kid, but they just don't anymow no,

503
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 2: and like that I think that's less about the games themselves. Like, yes,

504
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 2: I completely agree with the arguments that the games have

505
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: not innovated a whole time a lot in thirty years. Right,

506
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: you get your little mega evolution maybe here and there,

507
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 2: but yeah, it doesn't fundamentally change the game. Really, it's

508
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 2: been the same Pokemon game practically for the last thirty years.

509
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 2: I agree with all of those criticisms, but I think

510
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 2: they don't want to change a formula that has worked

511
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: for thirty years and maybe billions of dollars. That's a risk, Yeah,

512
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: it's a risk, And so I think it is actually

513
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 2: very smart for them to say, we're making offshoot games

514
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: where we are allowed to get experimental and if this

515
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: like bombs, doesn't matter because the mainline game is still

516
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: going to sell like twenty million copies and it's.

517
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: Okay, absolutely, and they'll still and Pokemon will continue to survive. Yeah,

518
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: and the next generation.

519
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. And again, for me, I think the main draw

520
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: is games. I don't have a whole lot of feelings

521
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: on where, for example, the trading card game should go

522
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: in the next decade, because I'm not super invested. I

523
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: don't think the Pokemon films are exactly like box office

524
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: busters or anything. Like, no one's lining up to watch

525
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: the Pokemon film.

526
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: They're all very.

527
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: Nostalgic for me. But looking back, they like don't hold

528
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: up at all. Like you know, they're all like pretty

529
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: mediocre to bad films. None of them are huge. Hey

530
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: what about Okay, that's I will say. I'll admit that's

531
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: a that's an outlier for sure.

532
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did something different there, and they.

533
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: Did something different, But for me, the main draw is

534
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: still games, and I'll admit merch also, like there's a

535
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: there's like a curled up flairy on sitting on my

536
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: bed side table right now, you know. Yeah, so merch

537
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: for sure, I'm definitely going to be a sucker for merch.

538
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: But it's the games that will keep me, keep me

539
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 2: connected to the franchise for the next thirty years, right

540
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: and in particular, I agree with you completely. I think

541
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: it'll be the more experimental offshoot games that will keep

542
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: me coming back, like Pocopia versus like Wind and Sales

543
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: or what's this next.

544
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: You can't tell me you're not excited for Palm Bond

545
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: A boo.

546
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Palm Bond.

547
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: Hell, yes, I'm excited for pombond Yes, but Wind and

548
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: Waves for example, like, I'll wait and see. I'm not

549
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: like pre ordering that and buying that day one, But Pocopia,

550
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 2: I'm literally considering going out and buying it, impulse buying

551
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: a switch to because I don't have one, So that

552
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: that is I think where I'm at emotionally with the games.

553
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I feel that, Yeah, and I think same

554
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: for me when when when in Waves comes out, I'll

555
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: wait a while, probably to see what the reaction is

556
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: like before I actually buy it, because yeah, I did

557
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: not invest nearly enough time in a Scarlett and Violet

558
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: for it to justify another another play. Well, thank you

559
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: of boo.

560
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was so fun.

561
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: This was fun. I'm glad we finally got to have

562
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: our chat about Pokemon and yeah, stay tuned.

563
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: On someday we'll finally have our chat about Digimon. Yeah,

564
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: try to convince you that Digimon is better than Pokemon.

565
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: But yes, Friday, other episode, Yes, that's for another episode.

566
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: I cannot wait for us to do out about Pokemon

567
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: and Digimon and we'll pull up we'll pull up all

568
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: the revenue numbers and everything too.

569
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah with receipts.

570
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, all right, guys, hold on, We're going to

571
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: take a quick break, and when we come back, Joel

572
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: is going to join me to talk about Disney talking

573
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: animal sidekick. All right, y'all, we're back and I am

574
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: joined by Joel.

575
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: Hey, Joel hate Carmen.

576
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: Takeover.

577
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 3: You really, you're really running things over here. I feel

578
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 3: really safe with you in the lead seat, and I'm

579
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 3: excited to talk to you about some of our favorite

580
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: Disney animals. In honor of Hoppers, we're working to draft

581
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: a team of talking animals to help us survive climate change.

582
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: Contestants will make a team of three or start four.

583
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: Contestants will make a team of four, one sidekick, one tactician,

584
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 3: one muscle, and one wild card. The animal selected must

585
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: be from a Disney or picks our own property. So

586
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: this includes anything from the Fox and Star Wars related ip.

587
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: Once a character has been chosen, he she they must

588
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: not be drafted again. Those are the rules. Let's draft Carmen.

589
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: Do you want to go first?

590
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: All right? So my sidekick sidekick, I'm gonna have to

591
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: go with a boo because he is gonna grab. He's

592
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: gonna be able to grab things for us.

593
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: You know, he's Okay, So for your first choice sidekick,

594
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: a Boo the monkey from Aladdin Aladdin. Yes, oh hey,

595
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 3: he's a good thief. I see, I see why you

596
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: want to have a sidekick. He can fit on your shoulder,

597
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 3: easy to sneak into places.

598
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: Yes, a very like I think tactically. Obviously we're not

599
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: ready for the tactician yet, but I do think the

600
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: tactician would be very good at kind of directing a

601
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: Boo for like, hey, go grab go, like sneak under

602
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: there and get you know, he's very he's.

603
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: A good listener. He is opinionated and may at some

604
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: point pal and be like I'm not doing that. But

605
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 3: I do like the goal. He would still achieve goal, Like,

606
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: whatever the goal is, he just might not do it

607
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: the way he's been instructed.

608
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: It'll be it'll be an interesting way to go about it.

609
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: You know.

610
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: I love this. Okay, let's go one at a time,

611
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 3: so we'll go back and forth. Is that a way?

612
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: I guess who's your psychick? Who's your sidekick? Ooh?

613
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: Okay, Now I thought long and hard about this, like

614
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 3: what does a sidekick need to be? Okay, and so

615
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 3: I think about the ultimate sidekick that's your robin. Okay,

616
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 3: he's got to be flexible, but he's also sort of

617
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: got to be like your moral center a little bit.

618
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: So I chose the purest of all animals from the

619
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: Disney cannon. I chose Nemo. Now, listen, memo, Nemo can

620
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: encourage an entire group of fish to swim down and

621
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 3: save their own lives. He's gonna be thinking. He's also young,

622
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 3: so he's got a lot of room to grow and

623
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: develop as a sidekick into his own superhero eventually. I

624
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 3: like Nemo, uh for not just like the disabled representation

625
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 3: of you can do anything, but also for his kiddo spirit.

626
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: There's never a time when Nemo's like, we cannot accomplish

627
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: if we don't like hunkered down. So I feel like

628
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 3: he's going to keep the team motivated even through dark.

629
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: Time, morale through the roof. Yeah exactly. Okay, so I

630
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: think I'm I.

631
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 3: Went the water might be a little bit difficult, but

632
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 3: you know, if we're living in a Zoutopia world, they've

633
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: got it figured out already, so I think he can

634
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 3: communicate through multiple channels. I think Nemo is gonna be

635
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 3: a good pick for sidekicks.

636
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is actually fantastic pick for sidekick.

637
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why my head didn't go there. I

638
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: love all of your points for why Nimo would make

639
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 1: for it, because you really do need morale on a team,

640
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, that's.

641
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 3: Especially fighting climate change. It's exhausting, it's so frustrating, Like

642
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: you need somebody who also is going to inherit this

643
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: world and needs to be prepared. He's like, listen, I

644
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 3: can't give up on the goal because I'm young. I'm

645
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 3: going to live a long time. Because Nemo can't die.

646
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: He has a lifespan of a human and I won't

647
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: hear about it otherwise. Yeah, okay, wait, who's your next pick? Well, Kevin,

648
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: and what character?

649
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: Okay, for a tactician, this is who is going to

650
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: be kind of uh, working side by side with a

651
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: boo for you know, kind of carrying out the missions.

652
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: For tactician, I'm going to go with Sebastian and I'll

653
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: tell you, okay. Sebastian. He's a tiny little crustacean, but

654
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: he is very good at directing people, and he has

655
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: a plan. Sebastian always knows what to do in any

656
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: sort of dire situation. He has a plan. He knows,

657
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, basically what the correct thing is to do,

658
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: and he's always looking out for people. He's a risk assessor,

659
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, he assesses risks and he kind of figures

660
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: out the best plan of action.

661
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: Here's why I like Sebastian as a pick. He's an

662
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: orchestra conductor. Okay, yes, he is a performer, which means

663
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 3: he's gonna be great at like he's gonna work almost

664
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: like a bard, creating enough musical distractions to allow a

665
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 3: boo to get in there and do what he needs

666
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 3: to do. I love I love this. I do feel

667
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: like Sebastian and a Boo are gonna be but has

668
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 3: a little bit. I feel like there's gonna be, you know.

669
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 3: I also.

670
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: Can a boo talk, No, a boo makes just vocalizations.

671
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: Here's what I'm gonna give. I'm gonna give that to

672
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 3: you anyway, because I feel like he understands and can

673
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: emote his communication in such a way that he is

674
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: still communicating. Is he articulating, No, but he is enunciating

675
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 3: enough with like his grunts and his uh you know,

676
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: evil serious let you know how he's feeling. So I

677
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: appreciate it, But I do think when Sebastian gets all

678
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: high and haughty in his big Jamaican accent, a boo's

679
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: gonna have some feelings about it.

680
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll lead, He'll lead you into battle. You know,

681
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: Ian would.

682
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: Like to know. Is the crab too nervous to be

683
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: a proper tactician? How do you respond?

684
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: Well, that's where the other teammates are going to come

685
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: into play to help keep Sebastian on like a level level.

686
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: He says. Anxiety does not deter you from being a leader.

687
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 3: And I appreciate that. Anxiety.

688
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: You have to have somebody who's assessing risks, yes, yes, okay,

689
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,919
Speaker 1: and then also somebody to tell you, like, hey, calm down,

690
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 1: it's not that, it's not that.

691
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: The land and the sea. So for you know, maneuvering,

692
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: that's going to be great.

693
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would rather somebody too nervous than to be

694
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: too you know, nonchalant about it.

695
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: That's why he's a tactician. He's thinking things through, right,

696
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 3: wants someone with anxiety in this role. Carmen, you're convincing me.

697
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, see see what I mean? Okay, So wait, did

698
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: you already give me your tactician?

699
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: No? No, So I'll go next.

700
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so Joelle, go ahead and give me who

701
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: is it going to be your tactician on your team?

702
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 1: Who's helping?

703
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm actually gonna throw a curveball, and instead of tactician,

704
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 3: I want to pick my muscle first, just in case

705
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 3: we have the same selects and I need him on

706
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 3: my team. He's essential. This was really challenging for me

707
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of you know, capable animals out

708
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: there who could be your muscle. So I thought, okay,

709
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: so not just strength but ingenuity. Mm hmm Okay, Now

710
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 3: is he a team player? Not always? But I think

711
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: after what happened to him in his last movie, should

712
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 3: he have survived, he might want to be on a team.

713
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: I'm going for a hopefully reformed Scar as my muscle.

714
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 4: Wow.

715
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 3: I love our gay king. Okay, I love our queen

716
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: for him. She loves the musical moment as well. She's

717
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: got a great quaft of hair. She's gonna make it

718
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,959
Speaker 3: super good. But also, try and mess with this team.

719
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: You're not gonna. A Scar will absolutely cut through you.

720
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 3: He's also really good as like a commander. Okay, Like, now, listen,

721
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: were the hyaenas getting the food they needed. No, there

722
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 3: was pride rock secure absolutely Okay, these lions could not

723
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 3: fight back, and he was just him and a bunch

724
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: of hyenas, and he held that rock down for quite

725
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: a long time until there was a storm. All Right,

726
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 3: as Ian said, he killed his own brother. He'll do

727
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: what it takes to win the mission. Okay. He is dedicated,

728
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: and after having lost his hyena friend and the entire pride,

729
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: he's gonna need a team to come together and support him.

730
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: So I'm choosing Scar as my muscle.

731
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: Wow. You know, I I am worried that Scar could

732
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: bring us into fascism in the Animal Kingdom, but you know,

733
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: it's a risk that I'm willing to take. You know,

734
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: that song Be Prepared was a little scary. But no,

735
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: I do think he's serious and he could carry out

736
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: a mission, especially if we're trying to if we're turning

737
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: the fascism around on the people that are destroying the planet,

738
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: which is our goal here, then maybe we do need

739
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: to fight fire with fire, you know, Nashis.

740
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: Do the fascist Listen. I like how it's happening in

741
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: our heads, and two things will happen. Either Scar comes

742
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 3: out of that fall, understanding that he is not going

743
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: to be the king, and he's right. Okay, I fall in.

744
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 3: How can I like evolve and move on with my

745
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 3: life or will be more determined than ever? And to

746
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: your point, that's gonna be really helpful. People are really

747
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: stupid when it comes to climate change. Listen, just put

748
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: Scar in front of somebody who denies climate change. All right,

749
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: we're leaving that believers exactly exactly. Who's your next choice?

750
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: What category? What character?

751
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sold? All right, So for the muscle, I'm

752
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: gonna go for. Okay, I'm gonna go for another character

753
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 1: that is small but mighty, because I do like there's

754
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: strength in a small character. One of my favorite scrappy

755
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: characters of all time, who I do think could kick

756
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: you into next week is Thumper from Dambi.

757
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 3: The cutest muscle. Okay, all right, convince me on easily

758
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 3: breakable bones rabbit Thumper as your muscle.

759
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: Look Jouelle in the Animal Kingdom. You know, sometimes it's will,

760
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: it's the it's the will of of the body more

761
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: than I don't know than the strength of the body.

762
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: Let's just put it. He has a lot of will.

763
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: He has a lot of might to fight, all right, does.

764
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: And I think he's also a uniter. He can unite

765
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: a forest of small animals against a singular force. So

766
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: he knows that his strength is not just you know,

767
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: it's in numbers. He knows that he alone cannot carry

768
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: out his mission. So I do think Thumper would be

769
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: a great person to kind of you know, he thumps

770
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: his little his little paw on the ground, wakes up

771
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: all the other little rabbits. An army of rabbits is

772
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: scarier than just one little rabbit in my opinion, I

773
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 1: don't know.

774
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: I'm seeing the vision. Okay, all right, here's what I

775
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 3: like about this. Because you've titled your team strong and mighty, right,

776
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 3: small and mighty, I'm seeing small and mighty. Yeah, I'm

777
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 3: seeing uh spy work infiltrations. We're using the element of

778
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,760
Speaker 3: surprise to attack.

779
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: You've got sneaking around exactly.

780
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 3: A well placed pick from Thumper to the heart. That's death,

781
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: all right. If he could time, if he's got his

782
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: martial arts skills ready, he knows exactly where to place

783
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 3: that little foot.

784
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: You're going down one of your pressure points.

785
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: Yes, I do think if we're in a massive army situation.

786
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: You know, two teams line up on the field going

787
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 3: at each other. I don't know. I don't know Small

788
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 3: and Mighty is surviving, but I see as a spy network,

789
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: I think you all got it. I think it's locked.

790
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: All right. Thank you for defending all of my picture

791
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: out because I know they are pretty wild. Okay, who is?

792
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: You gave us your muscle?

793
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,479
Speaker 3: I did? I did so I have and wild card left.

794
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Who are you gonna get us next? Tectician or

795
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: wild Card?

796
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 3: These were my two hardest I have multiple options for both,

797
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: and I've struggled so much, but I think I'll go

798
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 3: wildcard dext Okay, can I tell you it was between?

799
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: I considered bar Talk, which instance but from anathesia the

800
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: bat who I loved as a child and is so

801
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 3: sweet and I would just love to hang around. But

802
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 3: I was thinking about it, and I'm like, listen, our

803
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 3: goal is to stop global warming. I think Bartalk's just

804
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: gonna he's got the a D d uh. He's gonna

805
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: be distracted lock in, It's gonna be yeah, it's gonna

806
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: be a problem with love and respect. If we had

807
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: just a fun person to hang around, bart Talk would

808
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: absolutely be on this team, but since we need to

809
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 3: get stuff done, Welcome to the team. Iyago. Now listen,

810
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: I love I love a smart mouth. I love someone

811
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: who's wise but can take orders. But it's also smard

812
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: enough to know when this is enough and I'm leaving.

813
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: And that is why Yago's coming to my team. I think,

814
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: you know, while we've got Scar out there home down

815
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 3: the four grunting at anybody who just doesn't even believe

816
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: that this is happening, right, and then we've got our

817
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 3: Nemo out here motivating the people, I feel like Yago

818
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 3: can come behind both of them and finish the job.

819
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: If you're not motivated by Nemo, here comes y'all gonna

820
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 3: tell you to do it anyway. Okay, he's middle management. Fine,

821
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 3: He's like, listen, I don't care. These are the rules,

822
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 3: this is what's happening, and he's gonna force that stuff

823
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: and get it done. Yoga also gives us wings in

824
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: the sky, which I think if you're gonna have animals,

825
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 3: like a nice little ray of like lamb sea sky

826
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 3: would be good. So he can keep us up in

827
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: the sky. He's got our eyes. I just think like

828
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: he really rounds out the team is supportive and you know,

829
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: once away from Jafar, my only concern is that he

830
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: might be like the kind of person who's like, I

831
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: need a strong male figure in my life at all

832
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 3: times and tell me what to do. And I do

833
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 3: feel like he might become Scars like new pet project,

834
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: but I would like to see it. I don't care.

835
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 3: How do these who work together? A Scar would immediately

836
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 3: be like, okay, yeah, go come me. Who's the two

837
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 3: can in lion king Zazu. I thought he would be

838
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 3: like takedown Sazu. He could, so, yeah, I choose Iyaka

839
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 3: as my wild card.

840
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: Ah wow, okay, then as my wild card. You actually

841
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: convinced me that I do need somebody in the air,

842
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: and so I changed up really quick as my wild card.

843
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: I think I am gonna go with Pegasus.

844
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: Now, that is such a good pick for the small

845
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 3: but mighty team. One big, yeah, one big.

846
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 1: So the whole team can ride on the back of Pegasus.

847
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 1: Has also got some pretty strong legs too.

848
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 3: You know, Pegas's can kick and does kick. He's willing

849
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: to do.

850
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: It, yes, and he can fly. He does have. My

851
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: whole team is kind of sassy, which is a bit

852
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: of a problem. But I do think if this were

853
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: a movie about saving the world from you know, climate change,

854
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: this would be probably the most entertaining to watch because

855
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: they're all going to be kind of but they're going

856
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: to be great drama, you know. Amongst we have a very.

857
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 3: Queer teams, and I appreciate that for us as we're

858
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: out here trying to save the world. I love Pegasus

859
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 3: because Pegasus also has an end with the gods, which

860
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: I think is just ultimately, listen, no one's listening. This

861
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: river is like contaminated. Just call a god to clean

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Speaker 3: the river up, and then kirsh whoever made it bad? Like,

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Speaker 3: we have some options With Pegasus on the team, this

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Speaker 3: is great. I would love to see them on a

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Speaker 3: T shirt, see them in a movie. I love this collection,

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Speaker 3: and that's actually really helpful to me because I was

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Speaker 3: on the fence about my tactics. They're actually from the

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Speaker 3: same movies.

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Speaker 1: Okay tell me.

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Speaker 3: At first I thought Friar Tuck from Robin Hood because

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Speaker 3: he's so warm and sweet, but again, we have a

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Speaker 3: job to do and ground. I don't think warm and

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Speaker 3: sweet is where it's gonna be. Yeah, so I'm picking

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Speaker 3: Robin Hood.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, yeah, that makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 3: I'm picking Robinhood because who's gonna get all of these

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Speaker 3: people to fall in mind? Okay, who's gonna be gentle

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Speaker 3: enough for Nemo but strong enough for Scar? You need

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Speaker 3: bright who can get in between Scar and Iago whenever

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Speaker 3: that messy drama starts coming to light and keep us

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Speaker 3: mission on task. I think it's Robinhood. He can steal,

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Speaker 3: but he's out to help the little people, so he.

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Speaker 1: Cares climate in justice is economic injustice as well.

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Speaker 3: Say that, Carmen. Yes, this is just really taking his

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Speaker 3: initial like mission to the next level. He's like, listen,

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Speaker 3: I'm tired of these rich bastards. I'm cleaning up sherwood

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Speaker 3: forests and I'm taking the shit global and this is

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Speaker 3: the team he does it with. Honestly, I don't think

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Speaker 3: we need winners. Discord can amongst yourselves which team would

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Speaker 3: be better at solving climate change? But I think exactly,

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Speaker 3: but I think we chose too queer, ultimately awesome, Robinhood's queer.

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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Oh, agreed, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I think the teams are spectacular and uh I would

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Speaker 3: look forward to either one of them fighting for our planet.

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Speaker 1: Agreed and Thank you Joelle for joining me on that journey.

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Speaker 3: This was fun doing with me, so much fun.

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Speaker 1: I'm picturing our teams riding into battle.

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Speaker 3: And we unit at the end. I love the story.

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Speaker 1: I would love a team up. I would love a

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Speaker 1: team up at the end.

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Speaker 3: Here for it. This is like South Side Gaze meeting

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Speaker 3: North Side Gays in Chicago and going to Pride together.

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Speaker 3: What a lovely unison of different cultures coming together to

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Speaker 3: unite behind one common purpose. I love it.

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Speaker 1: On next week's episode of X ray Vision, Jason will

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Speaker 1: be back to close the blinds, light a few kills,

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Speaker 1: and talk us through the sexiest movies of all time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so join us. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 3: Bye.

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Speaker 2: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie

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Speaker 2: Knight and is a production of iHeart Podcast.

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Speaker 4: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abuzafar.

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Speaker 3: Our producers are Common, Laurent Dian, Jonathon and Fay Wag.

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Speaker 2: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 2: songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman

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