1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted, or should I say 2 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: welcome back to Packers Unscripted. We are back Mike Spofford 3 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Wes Hodkowitz from Packers dot Com coming to you here 4 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field West. The last time 5 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: we addressed the audience in this setting was actually before 6 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: we went to the NFL Scouting Combine. We did some 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: shows from Indianapolis as well. But in a nutshell, free 8 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: agents have arrived, players have departed, others have retired. There 9 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: has been a whole bunch of Packers related news here 10 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: since the last time we sat at this desk. Where 11 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: do you want to start? Well, I mean you could 12 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: start in a million different places, right, I mean the 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: fact that it's so funny no matter what the offense, 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: the off season and moved so fast, so many things happen, 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: and I think for my money, it's those first forty 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: eight hours of the negotiating period. The fact that the 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: Packers did come to agreements with four different free agents 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: sign them right at the start of free agency. The 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: outside linebacker situation is going to look a hundred different 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers this year. Overall, it's just 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: been a lot of change, But I think at the 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: same time, with Mike Petton coming back, you bring an 23 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: agent and Amos now is sort of the commander there. 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: On the defense, you have, you know, the two Smiths 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: coming in to help anchor the pass rush, a lot 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: of optimism about the defense and potentially how they can 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: move forward now and offensively. The big thing is Aaron Rodgers, 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur and building that foundation now for the offense. 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: And I think because we start to get into this 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: offseason program they've already started up. We have guys coming 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: in for the strength and conditioning program. Seeing where these 32 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: teams go, where this team goes, where these players go 33 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: with thee the puzzle pieces in place is going to 34 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: be one of the more intriguing things now as we 35 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: get going into O t A s and mini camps 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. Yeah, well, what to call it? 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: A flurry of activity in the first couple of days 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: of free agent. He might be the understatement of the 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: off season here in Green Bay. Four players are signed. 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned the two outside linebackers, the pass rushers, and 41 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Darius Smith from Baltimore and Preston Smith from Washington. Then 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: you had Adrian Amos from division rival Chicago at safety, 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: and then offensive lineman Billy Turner, a guy who I 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: at least I look at all four of these guys 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: as starters for the Packers in twenty nineteen. The Packers 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: aren't necessarily saying exactly where Billy Turner is gonna play, 47 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: but all signs would indicate he's gonna be your guy 48 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: at right guard when you have that spot essentially wide 49 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: open here and you sign a guy that early in 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: free agency. And as you said, now the players are 51 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: getting rolling with offseason workouts, they're in the building, they're 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: getting to know Matt Lafleur and the new coaches that 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: are here. Nathaniel Hackety, you mentioned Mike Patton obviously has 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: returned for year two as defensive coordinator. There's a lot 55 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: of energy in this building. There's a lot going on 56 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: for April, there's a lot. There's a lot going on 57 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: around here. And as you said, some certainly some some 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: optimism here, especially on the defensive side of the ball, 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: with the combination of pett and coming back and then 60 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: some young up and coming players that the Packers have 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: signed as free agents with the idea that their best 62 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: years are ahead of them, right, And I mean you 63 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: wrote about it about a month ago already, the fact 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: that the Packers signed a bunch of guys all in 65 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: that twenty six year old Range Goodkins had such a 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: great comment going back to the owners meetings about how, 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's not really looking for one or two 68 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: year rental players. He wants guys that are coming into 69 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: their formative years in the NFL. And I think when 70 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: you look, you know, Zadarius Smith, Preston Smith, both of 71 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: those guys have been remarkably durable throughout their career and 72 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: have kind of been on the incline. Specifically in Zadarius 73 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: case eight and a half sacks last year for the 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: best defense in the league, lead them in sacks, and 75 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: I think he's one of those guys that always had 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: that type of potential. You know, Brian Goodicuins mentioned they've 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: been looking at him back in the two thousand fifteen 78 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: draft Milt Hendrickson and the Ray Evans ended up getting 79 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: them in Baltimore, and he's been on this steady rise. 80 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: So the biggest thing, I think when you look back 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: to two thousand and eighteen, the Packers were missing something 82 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: with their pass rush. Now it got home quite a bit. 83 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, they ended up putting up a lot of sacks, 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: but it was about the consistency side of it and 85 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: also trying to weather through some of those injuries. Clay 86 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: Matthews moves on to l A, the Packers move on 87 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: from Nick Perry, and now you have Kyler Facker on. 88 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: These two young pass rushers that I think really are 89 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: going to bring a new energy to that side of 90 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: the game. And then Amos, I think is a spot 91 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: on I think could really under the radar, be the 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: best signing for them this offseason because he brings stability 93 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: to you know, arguably the most unstable position for them 94 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: last year with all the difference safeties they had to 95 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: go through. So I think it's a really good first step. Again, 96 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: it's all on paper. You have to do it in 97 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: on the field, but the potential certainly there. Yeah, I'm 98 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: really interested to see Amos, certainly, as you mentioned in 99 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: the back end here with the Packers, because you look 100 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: at his track records so far with the Bears coming 101 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: out of Penn Stay it as a draft choice a 102 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: handful of years ago. Not a lot of the big, 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: flashy splash plays and whatnot. Um. The Packers signed him 104 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: not only because he's a reliable guy and they feel 105 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: like they know exactly what they're getting, but because but 106 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: also because they feel like the interceptions and the splash 107 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: plays maybe are gonna start to come for him as 108 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: he continues to get more and more comfortable in his 109 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: pro career. All of these free agent signings really were 110 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: projection signings for the Packers. They're they're looking at, Hey, 111 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: it's not about what these not just about what these 112 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: guys have done, but about what we think they're going 113 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: to do here in the very near future. The Packers 114 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: are hoping to capitalize on players who they believe their 115 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: arrows are pointing up as they say, yeah exactly. And 116 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: I think when you look at all these guys being 117 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: twenty six age range, it worked out perfectly for them. 118 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: And the two thousand fifteen draft class for the Packers, 119 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: it it didn't work out the way they wanted it to. 120 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: But now you've been able to go and get some guys, 121 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: some really successful players out of that draft class. I 122 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: think to kind of augment at those positions. I think 123 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: a guy like Billy Turner too, brings a lot to 124 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: the offensive line in terms of his versatility. You know, 125 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: when you pay a player that much money, you would 126 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: expect he will start right guard. Appears to be the 127 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: starting opening right now, but it's understandable the Packers don't 128 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: want to pay him in a box at this case. 129 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: And then not to mention you also were able to 130 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: get Cole Madison back, returning for the start of the 131 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: offseason program after being away from the team last year. 132 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: So you know a lot of people in insider inbox 133 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: have talked about that being almost like an extra draft 134 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: pick this year as well. So I think as you 135 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 1: go into the draft now in a couple of weeks, Michael, 136 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: the Packers have been able to address enough of their 137 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: quote unquote needs that It just when you look at twelve, 138 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: when you look at thirty, when you look at forty four, 139 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't appear to me that it's like, Okay, you 140 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: have to get player X, you have to get position X. 141 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: Here Brian Goodacunts is going to have all of his 142 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 1: options on the table. Yeah. I think that's the biggest 143 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: thing that this splurge and free agency did for the Packers, 144 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: and Goodacut's mentioned it immediately when he addressed the media. 145 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: You make these kinds of moves in free agency, and 146 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: it gives you all kinds of flexibility heading into the draft. 147 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: He was going to have some measure of flexibility anyway, 148 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: because he's going in with ten picks. He has the 149 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: extra first round pick um at the end of the 150 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: first round from the trade last year. Ten picks total. 151 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: But now, as you said, from a position standpoint, we 152 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: all know you you want to take the best player available. 153 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: You don't want to leave better players for your competition 154 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,559 Speaker 1: to draft. You got to take the best guy who's 155 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: there at that time. But we also know that roster 156 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: needs can sometimes start to you know, push the equations 157 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: or or throw things a little bit out of balance. 158 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: Goodakos doesn't have to look at it that way. With 159 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: the moves that he made in free agency, all the 160 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: flexibility for what he wants to do, take a best 161 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: player here, trade up, or trade back. He's got everything 162 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: as at his disposal now heading into the draft. And 163 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the biggest things that these 164 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: early days of free agency accomplished for the Packers. YEA, 165 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: and and you want to be able to if you're 166 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: going to spend money, you want to spend it early. 167 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: You want to get the top end, guys, I think 168 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: you can make a case the Packers got the two 169 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: most coveted pass rushers there. I think Adrian Amos was 170 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: right up there as far as safety's and Billy Turner, 171 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: I think is a lot of potential in front of him, 172 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: even though he only has about one one and a 173 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: half two years of starting experience, a lot of versatility, 174 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: a lot of options, and as as you mentioned with 175 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: Brian Goodikins going into now his second draft is GM 176 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: ten picks to work with. The draft is his oyster 177 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: so to speak at this point in time. Yeah. Well, 178 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: in our upcoming couple of episodes, we're gonna take a 179 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: little bit closer look at the draft and where the 180 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: Packers stand at some different positions. But before I get 181 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: too far out of practice, here west the Green Bay 182 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: Packers get ready for game day with the powerful noise 183 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: canceling technology of Bo's Quiet Comfort thirty five headphones. 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Okay, 193 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: we mentioned players came back a week ago Monday on 194 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: April eight, if I'm getting my date correct. For the 195 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: start of offseason workouts, Packers get one extra week of 196 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: offseason workouts this year because of having a new head coach, 197 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: so they started a little bit earlier than a lot 198 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: of the other teams. But in sticking with things on 199 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball, I think if there 200 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: was one thing that I heard from the two defensive 201 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: players who addressed the media on that that first week 202 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: of offseason workouts, Blake Martinez and Kenny Clark answered some questions, 203 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: I really sensed a lot of enthusiasm and a lot 204 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: of excitement for the fact that Mike Patton is back 205 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: to continue what he started with this Packers defense. And 206 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: those were a couple of really key veterans, I thought, 207 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: expressing that very clearly and very open. Yeah. Absolutely, And 208 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: I mean you and I talked about it countless times 209 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: last season, and I'm not gonna sit here and go, 210 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, on a diet tribe about you know, last 211 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: year was one of the top ten seasons for a 212 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: Packers defense. It wasn't there was a lot to be 213 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: desired there yet. But when you look at what Petton 214 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: was up against, the fact that Truman Williams finished the 215 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: year at safety, even though that wasn't the plan at 216 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: all when they brought him back. The fact that they 217 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: had guys like Eddie Pleasant and I mean you look 218 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: at all these roster moves Abraham Campbell that come in 219 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: off the street and are in the starting lineup after 220 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: a week or two due to injuries. The fact, well 221 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: your defensive line that you wanted to start the year 222 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: with Mike Daniels, Kenny Clark and Mohammed Wilkerson. By December, 223 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: all three of those guys were an injured reserve. And 224 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: you're turning to Dean Lowry and Tyler Lancaster and guys 225 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: like that who really stepped up their games and are 226 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: showing a lot of promise here for nineteen. As as 227 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: the Packers get those injured guys back, and nobody was 228 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: a better example I guess of what the Packers that 229 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: the course the Packers defense took last year than Dan Lowery. 230 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy through the first month 231 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: of the season barely played. At the end of the season, 232 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: they couldn't get him off the field. It's just the 233 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: way the cookie crumbled for the Packers. But I think 234 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: now and again, you always have to knock on wood 235 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: in these cases. You never know exactly what's going to happen. 236 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: But I just think the team is better position to 237 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: stay healthy to have success. When you look at the 238 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: signings of a Preston Smith, he started every game, played 239 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: in every game that he's been in the league. Couldn't 240 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: even remember the last time he was down due to injury, 241 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: probably went back to high school, if not even before that. 242 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: You look at Zadarius Smith and being able to play 243 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 1: as often as he did. Adrian amsmiss what three games 244 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: and four seasons with the Bears, So you you never know. 245 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: You can't protict the future, but you know the past 246 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: is going to lead you to you know where where 247 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: you're going to be in the in the presence, So 248 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: by those guys not having injury history, I think is positive. 249 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: I think when you look at the areas of which 250 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: the Packers are building their defense around with Kenny Clark, 251 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: with with Blake Martinez, with the cornerbacks which you're Alexander, 252 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: they have studs in place. They have guys that can 253 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: be playmakers and difference makers and leaders in place. But 254 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: they needed to find a way to expedite that process. 255 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: I think these free agent additions have done that. Yeah. 256 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: And on the offensive side of the ball, the two 257 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: players we heard from when offseason workouts began, quarterback Aaron Rodgers, 258 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: wide receiver Davante Adams. No real surprises there. Rogers certainly 259 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: addressed as he had done on the radio, all the 260 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: stuff about the Bleacher Report article. I don't know about you. 261 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: I don't really want to get into it. I think 262 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: it's been rehashed and redone plenty. The key message being 263 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: the Packers leaders on offense, whether you're talking Rogers or 264 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Adams or David Baktiari, Brian Bulaga, whoever you want to pick, 265 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: this offense is all about moving forward now. It's about 266 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur, it's about Nathaniel Hackett, It's about where the 267 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: future is and the immediate future as these guys start 268 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: to sink their teeth into the teeth into the playbook. Um, 269 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: we know they're not going to be doing any on 270 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: field stuff quite yet, but that's that's certainly coming up. 271 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: They're having meetings going for you know, some of the 272 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: some of the x's and os on the big screen, 273 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and um, again I sense it. 274 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: It's an excitement thing. There's there there's a newness. There's 275 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: a freshness to everything that's going on here. And when 276 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: your veteran players are are voicing that, I think that 277 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: speaks volumes to how things have gotten started. The There 278 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: was a line I made an inbox about two or 279 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: three weeks ago. And I'm not usually onet just to 280 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: toute my writing, but there was there was a point 281 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: I was trying to make with it, and that's if 282 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: you fix the fox fauce at the leaks stop right, 283 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: if you win football games, the outside noise quiet people. 284 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: I'd ask, you know, are these things that Rogers needs 285 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: to address that Matt Lafourns are addressed. In my thought 286 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: the entire time has been you need to concentrate on 287 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: what's in the locker room. Now, if that's something that 288 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: La Fleur and Rogers want to talk about in a 289 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: private setting, that's up to them. But in terms of 290 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: that locker room, what's happened in the past, what happened 291 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen doesn't dictate what happens in two 292 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. And I thought the amount of people that 293 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: stepped up, uh, not not just about the bleacher report thing. 294 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, you know, just Rodgers leadership, about this 295 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: team being six nine and one last year, about you know, 296 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy era ending, La Fleur era starting It's been 297 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: pretty important. I think if you talk to Matt la 298 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Flour to start a new you know, you look at 299 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: the things he's done around the building, the new murals 300 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: that he's put up, the lighting has changed near the 301 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: locker room. They are trying to put their own imprint 302 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: on this thing. And for Matt Lafleur, it's about building 303 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: that relationship with Aaron Rodgers and getting them back on track. 304 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: There was a great question that was asked her in 305 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: the news conference with dot Davante Adams basically saying, Hey, 306 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: do you think Aaron Rodgers just wants to go out 307 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: there and you know, shove it up. Everybody's you know what, 308 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: you don't play well, and Adams said his first response was, well, 309 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: I know, I do. So there are guys on this 310 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: football team that are dedicated to Rogers that they want 311 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: to be successful again. That two thousand sixteen draft class 312 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: we were just talking about. Those guys went to an 313 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: NFC championship game and haven't been to the playoffs the 314 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: past two years. Aaron Jones has not been to a 315 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: playoff game played at Utah where they didn't have a 316 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot of success. There is a 317 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: hunger to be able to turn this thing around. And 318 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: as Aaron Rodgers said his most poignant statement in his 319 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: time addressing the media for eighteen minutes, he looks at 320 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: it from the fact that there is no grace period. 321 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: You are the Green Bay Packers. He's a two time 322 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 1: m v P quarterback, they have a veteran line, they 323 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: have a veteran corps. You gotta go out win some ballgames. Yeah, 324 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: And I think, as as I had mentioned when we 325 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: did a three Things video with Larry McCarron and in 326 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: in box other discussions that we've had that line about 327 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: no grace period, I I really took that one to heart, 328 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: because I don't think that was that was Rogers just 329 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: saying that. UM put it this way. I think he 330 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: was saying it for multiple reasons. Number One, whatever pressure 331 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: is going to be on him to perform and to 332 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: return to his m v P level, he's saying, bring 333 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: it on. I'm he's not. He's not gonna and there 334 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: at his locker every week and give excuses about, you know, 335 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: trying to learn the new offense and this, and that. 336 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: He's already drawn the line in the sand in that respect. 337 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: But I think he was also sending a message to 338 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: his teammates, to the rest of those guys in that 339 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: locker room that hey, there's no grace period for me. 340 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: There's none for you either whether you're in the second 341 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: year of Mike Patton's defense or the first year of 342 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur's offense. However you want to look at it, 343 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: this team is the goal is to win. The goal 344 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: is to get back to the playoffs and get back 345 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: to where this team has been. And and this isn't 346 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: about you know, being able to take a red shirt year, 347 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: so to speak, and just say, well, nobody's going to 348 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: expect anything of the Packers with the first year head coach, 349 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: and you know we'll worry about that's uh, your leader 350 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: number twelve there, the quarterback is saying, that's not the approach. 351 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: And everybody in there is a professional athlete at this point. 352 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: They're making good money to do what they do. Uh, 353 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: they are the cream of the crop. They are guys 354 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: who have gone through the scouting process with the Packers. 355 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: They felt that these are players that can become contributors 356 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: and become Pro Bowlers and All pros and be able 357 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: to win championships. And as Rogers said, that's what we 358 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: have to get back to, competing for championships. He even 359 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: made a little bit of a joke about the success 360 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: that the Brewers and the Bucks are having, Well, maybe 361 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: it's time for the Green Bay Packers to pick it 362 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: up too. That's what it ultimately comes down to, because 363 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: there is a culture that's been established and when you 364 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: go back to back seasons without making the playoffs, whatever 365 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 1: reasons played into that, the fact that you didn't do 366 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: that was the first time in what twenty eight years 367 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: that that's happened. You have to find a way to 368 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: get some answers. I just think people want change, they 369 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: want adjustments, they want something new. The Packers certainly did 370 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: that from the top down this offseason. Something you gotta 371 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: roll the dice and see how it comes out. But 372 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that they're at this point in 373 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: time now and at least there is that new energy 374 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,719 Speaker 1: that you're talking about. I think in terms of just 375 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: the off season, it's mission accomplished. Yeah. One other thing 376 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: I want to touch on here before we sign off 377 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: on our first show back West. Four Packers players in 378 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: recent weeks have announced their hirenment John Kuhn, Jordy Nelson, 379 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: Josh Sitting, and t J. Lang. It's quite a list. 380 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: I didn't think about it. I'm just gonna throw to 381 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: you all four of those guys Packers Hall of Famers. Yeah, 382 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: and equivocally, I think it's gonna be tough to get 383 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: them all in the same year. Yeah. That might. We 384 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: We'll have to see how they how it gets spaced 385 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: and parsed out here once they become eligible for the 386 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: Packers Hall of Fame. But I'm with you. I think 387 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: they all belong. I just think, and you know, and 388 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: I know everybody had a varying contribution to the Super 389 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: Bowl forty five team, Sitting was young and his career 390 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: as a starter. T J was still a backup. Jordy 391 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: came on late that season. John Kuhn was John kun 392 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: But the culture that they built, the cornerstones that they were, 393 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: and I think to you, man, the toughness that each 394 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: of them showed throughout their career. Yeah, you can't say 395 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: enough about it. It is weird, though, I will admit this, 396 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: and you've gone through this a little bit now having 397 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: covered the team since two thousand and six. It is 398 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: strange for me a little bit to see this start 399 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: happening because I remember, like it yesterday of writing a 400 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: story in the Packers locker room about how t J. 401 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: Lang and Josh Sitton were the youngest veterans on a 402 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: offensive line in the NFL. They were both like twenty 403 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: six or twenty seven years old, and it wasn't close. 404 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 1: A lot of teams had thirty year olds. They were 405 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: the two youngest, the two youngest guys to be leading 406 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: a room in the NFL. And that was like two 407 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: thousand twelve, and now they're retired. I mean, the NFL 408 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: moves quickly. It's why you have to make every game 409 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: count but to each of them, I think Packer fans 410 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: certainly owe a debt of gratitude for their contributions in 411 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 1: Green Bay. Yeah, I think you said it best. If 412 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: there's one characteristic I would apply to all four of 413 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: those guys across the board and everything they did for 414 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: Green Bay, it was toughness. It was it was getting 415 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: out there, giving everything they had, no matter what injuries 416 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: they were dealing with and what not, to get out 417 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: there and play. And uh, that's that's a group that 418 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: won a lot of football games. Yeah. And I think 419 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: Mark Murphy has talked about this a little bit too. 420 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: At some point it sounds like the Packers will hold 421 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: the retirement ceremony for Jordy Nelson. That's going to be emotional. Yeah, because, 422 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: as I wrote an inbox, I think shortly after the announcement, 423 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's ever been a player, Honestly, goodness, Michael, 424 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's been a player in my 425 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: lifetime that's connected as well with the fan base as 426 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson did. He could have walked into any living 427 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: room in Green Bay, Wisconsin and fit in just like 428 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: another member of the family. I mean, that's just the 429 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: kind of guy he was, and certainly for him to 430 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: to step away the game at this point when I 431 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: think he could probably still play if he wants to, 432 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: probably says a lot about his outlook on life as well. Yeah, 433 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: certainly up there in adoration with another guy at his 434 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: position and Donald Driver in terms of the way the 435 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: fan base feels about him. So a couple of house 436 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: cleaning things, so to speak. I want to alert the 437 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: fans to keep an eye out on our website for 438 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: our pre draft position by position series that will be 439 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: launching this week. It'll go through this week and next 440 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: week taking a look at just where the Packers roster 441 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: stands at various positions heading into the draft. As I mentioned, 442 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: we'll be talking a little bit more about the draft 443 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: and our upcoming shows. And then also the word is 444 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: the NFL schedule for twenty nineteen is coming out this week, 445 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: so we will have that coverage on our website as 446 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: well as hopefully some time on a show to talk 447 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,959 Speaker 1: about that when it happens. Absolutely, and one other thing 448 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 1: I want to throw out there too. We get so 449 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: caught up, Michael, and you're in my video presence here 450 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: on Packers dot Com. And the Packers Mobile app. A reminder, 451 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: you can also find us on iTunes the Packers app 452 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: on there as well. 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