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Speaker 1: you what that entails in just a little bit as well. Steve,

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Speaker 1: we had an interesting morning. It was it seemed like

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Speaker 1: of teams. I think, like for the Buffalo Bills, we

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Speaker 1: can both you and I can sit here and talk

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Speaker 1: about this like this, and we can see in there

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Speaker 1: somewhere the math would work, the value and the player

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Speaker 1: and the picks that you're giving up, or vice versa,

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Speaker 1: the picks that you get and the player you're giving up.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere in there, it's a it becomes a question. There's

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Speaker 1: a bit gray area saying, well, you know, maybe under

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Speaker 1: the right scenario, and then you got to think, oh,

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Speaker 1: which team it is, and then you got to get

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Speaker 1: into specifics about which team's deep, which team's got what

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Speaker 1: we need, you know, the Bills need. So somewhere in

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Speaker 1: there that mass of unknowns and variables is a maths

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Speaker 1: problem that you could probably solve with that, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's interesting to think about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: particularly if you start thinking like the Bills could lose

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Speaker 1: some cap space, get a pick, and get some cheap

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Speaker 1: labor at a pick that would make a difference. Because

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Speaker 1: we've had this conversation before. I don't know if a

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Speaker 1: fifth round draft pick out of this dre can make

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Speaker 1: this team right, So he had a better chance if

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Speaker 1: you move some high price that off the roster. Yeah, perhaps, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get you. It's that that math that we talk

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Speaker 1: about is because it's you know, there's a difference between numbers,

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Speaker 1: which is hardcore salary cap numbers and rookie contracts. That's

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Speaker 1: that those are the hard numbers. The value is the

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Speaker 1: position the guy plays, how good he plays it, what

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Speaker 1: his contract situation is, and will he fit our scheme

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Speaker 1: can we get him to fit in with it? Is

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Speaker 1: this position of need for you know, all that stuff

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Speaker 1: is a little bit more intangible. It's a little bit

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Speaker 1: more esoteric with each different scenario. So hmm, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think maybe that's why these deals don't get done so much.

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Speaker 1: I think some of these teams that have cap space

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Speaker 1: and premium draft picks are going to be targeted by

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Speaker 1: teams looking to unloads salary and higher cheap labor, namely

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Speaker 1: rookies with good draft choices. So, you know, you look

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Speaker 1: at teams that still have a lot of cap space

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Speaker 1: right now space if they happen to have premium picks

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Speaker 1: on the board as well, I could see teams looking

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Speaker 1: to unload salary approaching them, if not a week before

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Speaker 1: the draft, during the draft and saying, hey, we can

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Speaker 1: give you a player, like for example, there are rumors

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Speaker 1: out there that DK metcalf right is getting you know,

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks are getting calls about DK metcalf Would they

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Speaker 1: would they move metcalf to get even more picks than

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Speaker 1: they already got in the Wilson trade and totally rebuild.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. The Jets were ringing their phone off

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Speaker 1: the hook trying to get DK metcalf. It's clear the

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Speaker 1: Jets want a veteran receiver that can help Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to dive back into the draft well

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Speaker 1: after drafting Elijah Moore last year, so they're clearly in

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Speaker 1: the market for a veteran receiver. They were in the

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill sweepstake, so they're looking for a wide out

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Speaker 1: and they have cap dollars to spend. So it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: shock me if a team approaches the Jets, who have

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Speaker 1: two picks in the first round, it says, hey, we'll

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Speaker 1: give you player X, give us pick ten, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I could see that stuff happening. I think there

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Speaker 1: could be some player for pick trades on Night one

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Speaker 1: of the draft. It's gonna be very compelling and I'm

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Speaker 1: very interested to see if the trend we've seen thus

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Speaker 1: far through the free agency period with these players for

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Speaker 1: pick trades continues into Night one of the draft. It

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Speaker 1: will add It will only add more drama to the

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Speaker 1: whole dang thing, which is right pretty much a telenovella

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Speaker 1: in itself. Very often. Oh yeah, it's every Every draft

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Speaker 1: is its own thirty for thirty. I mean, you know

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Speaker 1: that one of the big documentary behind the scenes, look

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Speaker 1: at who's who's thinking, what draft picks are thinking, what

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Speaker 1: the what NFL front offices are thinking. And every guy

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Speaker 1: who's available is on pins and needles. It's that it's

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Speaker 1: a is a real human drama that has no athletic

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Speaker 1: competition involved. It is, you know, just trying to get there.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, the league does a really good job and

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Speaker 1: obviously we're gonna see it. I mean, it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the draft this year is in where is it in Vegas?

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Speaker 1: It's going to be unbelievable down there there. The the

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Speaker 1: intrigue and the conversations that happen about those top ten picks,

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Speaker 1: particularly their phone rings off the hook, which is why

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Speaker 1: they give them extra time in that first round to

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Speaker 1: field phone calls. And when you're up on the clock

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Speaker 1: as a team, that's that's when the phone calls are

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Speaker 1: hot and heated, and everything ahead of you is all

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Speaker 1: the questions ahead of you that you've been waiting on

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Speaker 1: are answered, and the guys that are available are available.

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Speaker 1: And in the lead up to then when you're on

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Speaker 1: the clock in the two hours or two weeks before that,

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Speaker 1: your fielding calls every single day about possible scenarios, and

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Speaker 1: they start and every scenario gets lopped off as every

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Speaker 1: pick is made. You know, and they year down to

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Speaker 1: what he have and you got those last You know,

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Speaker 1: you got three calls you gotta make in fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta ten minutes. He got him down to ten. Now, oh,

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Speaker 1: you got a multime million dollar decision you gotta make

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Speaker 1: while while touching all the bases in ten minutes on

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Speaker 1: the phone. It's it's drama at its highest in our sport.

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Speaker 1: Other NFL news and notes, Bruce arians has stepped down

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Speaker 1: as head coach of the Bucks. That happened late yesterday.

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Speaker 1: He will be moving into a front office advisory role,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people instantly speculated that he and

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady must have had a rift. It is Brady

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Speaker 1: related as to why he stepped down, but he clarified.

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Speaker 1: He said, once I knew Tom was coming back, I

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Speaker 1: knew the team would be in good hands for whoever

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Speaker 1: was going to succeed me, so I decided to step

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Speaker 1: aside at that time. Todd Bowles will inherit the head

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Speaker 1: coaching duties. He was the team's defensive coordinator of the

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Speaker 1: last three seasons, former head coach of the Jets as

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Speaker 1: we know here in this division, and so he will

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Speaker 1: assume the head coaching duties. It's unclear if he's going

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Speaker 1: to still call defenses too, but I guess that's a

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Speaker 1: decision to be made at a later time. When when

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Speaker 1: Todd Bowles and Bruce Arians met the media in Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay and went upon the state and the podiums up,

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady was in the front row. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 1: there to watch him be their form. So there is

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Speaker 1: no rift that. Yeah, I would say the only place

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Speaker 1: where Tom Brady and Bruce Arians may clash is Bruce

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Speaker 1: is a little more loose. Brady is a sweat the

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Speaker 1: details guy to the umpteenth. I don't know if Ba

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Speaker 1: is as stringent in the details as he is. Brady

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Speaker 1: is science and Bruce Arians is the art form. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's right, a little more left brain. Yeah, so yes,

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Speaker 1: I would I would say that would be the only

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Speaker 1: place they differ. But that doesn't mean they can't be

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Speaker 1: good working partners, you know, and whatever it is that

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Speaker 1: they're doing. Yeah, I said, you have football players. I

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Speaker 1: think buying large are a demographic of player and coaches

552
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Speaker 1: are this way too. Where you're gonna work with this,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people don't understand how close and

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Speaker 1: the emotions that that are intertwined with being on a

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Speaker 1: football team and a foot with football coaches and that

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Speaker 1: and the emotion and the intimacy of the relationships. It's

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Speaker 1: not just a co worker. It's really it's like family,

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Speaker 1: and football players and coaches kind of get into this

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Speaker 1: place where they can say, you know what, I don't,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna love this guy no matter what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I know he's I know he's I wouldn't I don't

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Speaker 1: want my mom to hang out with him, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: bring him home to my wife and kids. But when

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Speaker 1: I'm in the building, I'm gonna love him like he's

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Speaker 1: my brother. That kind of thing. And you make that

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Speaker 1: decision because you get such a diverse group of guys

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Speaker 1: in there, and then over time, the longer you spend

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Speaker 1: with that in that compressed emotional pressure cooker, you do

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Speaker 1: become real close friends. Whether you did it begrudgingly or

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Speaker 1: not at the beginning. And so that you know, so

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Speaker 1: whatever the riff you think is between Bruce arians and

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, don't believe it's it's not there. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break here. When we come back, we may

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Speaker 1: do a little once for lunch. It's been a while. Wow,

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Speaker 1: got some interesting things to survey on the menu, including

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Speaker 1: a Bill's pass rusher question. We'll let you know what

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Speaker 1: that is when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Collot of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: with you. We will have senior NFL writer from the

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Speaker 1: Athletic Shale Capatia joining us in the second hour of

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Speaker 1: the show. He's got Bill's related right up coming out

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Speaker 1: tomorrow on the Athletic dot Com and we're talking to

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Speaker 1: him about that, among other things concerning the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: in the second hour of the show. But right now,

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Speaker 1: it's a little time for What's for Lunch presented by

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Speaker 1: Independent Health. You deserve the red shirt treatment. And we

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Speaker 1: begin with division, Steve, in the wake of free agency,

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00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: worst division in the AFC, the East or the South.

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Speaker 1: I think we're pretty firm that the North is looking

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Speaker 1: pretty dann competitive. So too is the West. The weaker

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Speaker 1: division South, it is the South. It's pretty convincing as

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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. South. The East has only one

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Speaker 1: dog team that's the Jets, while the South still has

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Speaker 1: the Jags and the Texans, who have a lot of

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Speaker 1: work to do in Tennessee. They were the one seed

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Speaker 1: a year ago. We'll see how that goes in. Some

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Speaker 1: question marks about the the Colts. The East had two

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Speaker 1: playoff teams last year's as well. Think about that with

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Speaker 1: a one with a rookie quarter in New England. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the South next up. Bigger free agent signing by

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Speaker 1: the Bills, Von Miller pretty big or Mario Williams. Which

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Speaker 1: one was bigger? I gotta s Mario? Really? Yeah? And

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Speaker 1: what makes you say that? Uh? The three days sojourn

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Speaker 1: it took to get people spelling out his name on Pepperoni,

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Speaker 1: on pizzas and the He was the first big one.

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Speaker 1: He was the one that was It was a ninety

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Speaker 1: five million years and listened. He came in, played all

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Speaker 1: four years of it and was very productive. He was

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Speaker 1: on that D four. He played really really well. He

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Speaker 1: was productive. Yeah, so I and uh so I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was bigger, but and plus I have to say

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Speaker 1: that just because we haven't seen Vaughan play yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first two years he was here, I believe those

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Speaker 1: are the years of the Bills finished first and second

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Speaker 1: in the league in sacks. Three of the defensive linemen

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Speaker 1: had double digit sacks seasons the same season. Marcel Darius

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Speaker 1: had ten, Mario had like fourteen and a half, and

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Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes had ten and Kyle Williams had like six

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Speaker 1: or seven. UM. That was and the next year they

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Speaker 1: finished second in the league. That was a group man,

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Speaker 1: that was That was a foursome for sure. So I

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Speaker 1: would say Mario just because of just because of the

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Speaker 1: fact that's so early in Vaughan's tenure. Now, if Vaughan

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Speaker 1: helps this team get over the top and they win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, that changes, right. Every player in the

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Speaker 1: roster is the best player in the franchise history. If

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Speaker 1: they win the Super Bowl, they go right to Mount Rushmore,

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Speaker 1: all of them, fifty one of them all right, Next

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Speaker 1: up on What's for lunch? Who will take a bigger

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Speaker 1: leap in year two? Trevor Lawrence or is Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I would say Trevor Lawrence. Doug Peterson really knows what

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Speaker 1: he's doing with quarterbacks. He'll know how to handle Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence and give him some ways to succeed and be

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Speaker 1: more successful. And I think, let's face it, Jaguars have

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Speaker 1: can come further, have more margin of error than any

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00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: other teams, so they're gonna They're gonna The places for

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00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: them to improve are more diverse than even for the Jets.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's Trevor Lawrence is gonna take a

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Speaker 1: big step for it. I think Doug Peterson is really

641
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Speaker 1: going to be a breath of fresh air for him.

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Speaker 1: This may be nothing against the guys at Clemson, but

643
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: this may be Trevor Lawrence's first opportunity to have a

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Speaker 1: head coach an entire organization know what it's doing around him,

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Speaker 1: you know, And that's that means things that have nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with him and all that stuff, the stuff

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00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: that'll still help him away from the ball. So I'm yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll say Trevor Lawrence has a is primed for a

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Speaker 1: big step forward this year. I'm inclined to lean that

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Speaker 1: way too. There are a lot of new pieces around

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00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: him that are going to have to all blend in.

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00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: But it can only be onward and upward. After the

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Speaker 1: debacle that the Urban Meyer hiring was, and I still,

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Speaker 1: much like Josh Allen, I don't think Trevor Lawrence gets

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00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: enough credit for how sharp he is his football IQ,

656
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: his intelligence, his ability to diagnose, and he's got he's

657
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: he's got a host too. Is he's got skill? Man,

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00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: He's got some skills. So yeah, yeah, I'm I'm not

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Speaker 1: the jack Wilson doesn't. But let's face it too, the

660
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Speaker 1: things that you have on Zach Wilson for the Jets

661
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: is stability of the front office and then and the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff. Second year in the offense, better offensive line

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Speaker 1: in front of him. So he's got some things to

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Speaker 1: look forward to as well. And I think both those

665
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: guys will play better this year last one. In what's

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00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: for lunch, best pass rushing duo in the NFL Joey

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00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: Bosa and Khalil Mack or Max Crosby and Chandler Jones

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Speaker 1: both tandems in the AFC West. That's tough. I would say,

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Speaker 1: probably that is not. I think Max Crosby is terribly

670
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Speaker 1: underrated even now. Yeah, Chandler Jone is pretty good. Khalil

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Speaker 1: Mack maybe a little bit past his prime. Joey Bosajo

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Speaker 1: is man, that's true. I don't know. I'll take the

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Speaker 1: Raiders guys. Okay, Crosby and Jones you're taken. I'll take

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Speaker 1: I think those guys are all have a better year

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Speaker 1: this year. Okay, I'm I'm inclined to learning the other way.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. There's something about Bosa and the

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Speaker 1: way he works his hands that there are many people

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Speaker 1: that do it. Got grade lean, man, That guy comes

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Speaker 1: for where you feel like, Man, He's leverage is good

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Speaker 1: when he comes off the edge. His hand use is

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Speaker 1: great technically sound suspect, you know, I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: just Bosa has a hard time putting eighteen weeks together. True, Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it's it's really yeah. Those are

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Speaker 1: four really good pass rushers. And to put them on

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Speaker 1: the same team in the same division, man, that isn't

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00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah that that division is Uh, it's a true arms

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Speaker 1: race out there, it really is. And now and it's

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00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: funny too because both you know, all those teams out

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00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: there started to think about it the same way at

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Speaker 1: the same time. Let's get listen, we can't stop these

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Speaker 1: Let's get a pass rusher and see if we can

692
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Speaker 1: stop the passes at the other end because we can't.

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Speaker 1: We can't run with Tyreek Hill. And even though he's

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Speaker 1: out of the division now, we can't run with Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 1: And Kelsey. Now we've got Mike Kole Hardman, you know,

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans, Keenan Allen. You know, we got all these

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Speaker 1: guys running around their Judy Jeff, you know, Jerry Jerry,

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Speaker 1: Judy Courtland Sutton. They got all these guys running out

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Speaker 1: the Dante Adams. Let's just uh right, let's just try

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Speaker 1: let's try defending it at the other only. So yeah,

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00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: they all all of those teams are seen it the

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Speaker 1: same way, and it's it's gonna be a pretty exciting year,

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Speaker 1: I think. All right, So that's what's for lunch, presented

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Speaker 1: by Indwhending Health. You deserve the red cheer treatment. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to the phones though at eighth three, five fifty

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Speaker 1: one eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty open line

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Speaker 1: for you there, and we go to DJ first in Connecticut.

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Speaker 1: What you got for us? DJ? Hi, guys, that's very

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Speaker 1: much for selecting my call. Um. First of all, Um,

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Speaker 1: I love your work and I always learn something at

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00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: least a couple of times a week listening to it.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate a couple of things. Number One, I've

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00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: spent ten years in San Francisco. Um, the restricter emission

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Speaker 1: standards in the state of California, as we probably remember

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Speaker 1: from the eight seventies and eighties and nineties, so they

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Speaker 1: have to have actually special formulated gas on top of that.

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Speaker 1: And I believe that almost all the gas, if not

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Speaker 1: all the gas, is manufactured and refineries in California, which

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Speaker 1: a has the higher costs to operate. But also that's

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Speaker 1: that adds to the cost of gasoline. So UM, I

721
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Speaker 1: think it's not just you know, supply demand, it's all

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Speaker 1: the environmental hoops they have to jump through, both from

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Speaker 1: the car side and the gas side. Well, DJ, thank

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Speaker 1: you for being our director of commerce and our economics

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Speaker 1: correspondent here on this subject that makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: Seven seventy five is absolutely nuts, So thank you for

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Speaker 1: teaching us something. No. On a football note, Um, Steve Um,

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Speaker 1: can you toll us what do you think the impact

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Speaker 1: of having two Super Bowl winners will on the room

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Speaker 1: when the Bills with OJ the tight end and uh

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Speaker 1: obviously von Miller, uh being on Super Bowl winners for

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Speaker 1: actually three different franchises with three different coaches, and um,

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Speaker 1: did you guys have add during the four year Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl run, did you guys add a Super Bowl winner

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Speaker 1: to those early nineties teams. I don't think so. I

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Speaker 1: could be wrong about that. Um, I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: Now James Lofton get a Chant did not win one. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Jim jeff Coat won one. Uh. Ted

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Speaker 1: Washington did not. Um, well was he wasn't he with

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys? Yeah? But I don't think he was with

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Speaker 1: Cowboys after or no, no, after the Super bowls he

742
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: was just before. I think, Okay, well, yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He might have been, but I kind of anyway, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I think here's what I

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00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: would say. Uh, and knowing if if they're the right

746
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: type of guy. Things come up when you get into

747
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: situations where not too many players have been before. Now,

748
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: coming to the Bills now is much different than coming

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00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: to them two years ago. They've been in the AFC

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Speaker 1: Championship Game, they've been in Divisional round game, they've been

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00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: in They've got a ton of guys who got playoff

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00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: experience and the Bills that's when you start to see

753
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 1: things about super having a guy who's in the Super

754
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: Bowl that can help you. What really happens is like

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00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: if the Bills were to go to the AFC Championship Game,

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00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: win and get to the Super Bowl. Von Miller is

757
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: gonna have a ton of stuff to share with these

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00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: guys about how to handle those weeks leading up to

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00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: that game, those last two weeks leading up to the

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00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Oj Howard, same thing. They're gonna say. Listen, guys,

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00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: it's gonna be nuts. Here's what you should do. Get

762
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: all this stuff taken care of this week, and then

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00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: next week you can kind of cut them loose, cut

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Speaker 1: your family loose, cut your friends loose, and you can

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Speaker 1: focus on the game. Even though this week before we

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Speaker 1: leave we're gonna put in the entire game plan, get

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00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: it ready, and we're gonna hone it in. Next week,

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00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: you can relax and think about the game and not

769
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 1: have to worry about who's got tickets, who's got hotel rooms,

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00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: who needs you know, uh, tickets to the Commissioner's party

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00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: up and all that stuff. That's when guys who have

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00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: been through Super Bowl week really help guys who have

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Speaker 1: not been there, and none of the bills. Guys that

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Speaker 1: have been there, who are here last year, the year before, obviously,

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00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: so getting to that point where nobody's been before, particularly

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Speaker 1: when the Super Bowl happens, and the distractions and the

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00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: craziness that are surrounded, it'll be invaluable to have guys

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00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: like that who can say, hey, here's how we did it,

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00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: and that's what coaching staffs do. They'll reach out to

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians, they'll reach out to, you know, even the Patriots.

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00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: They'll reach out to, you know, the you know, the

782
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals guys, how they handled the week leading up

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00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: to it and what would work for them and what

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Speaker 1: they would do differently. Coaching staffs will will cross pollinate

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00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: and just make a phone call and say, hey, what

786
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: do you think about this? And they'll help each other

787
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: that way, and players do the same thing. Break time

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Speaker 1: for us here, Steve and I back with more in

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Speaker 1: a moment on one Bills Live presented by Kalada Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, we already know that r. J.

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Speaker 1: Knight is sold out at the Arena for Friday Boom

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Speaker 1: the game against the Predators, as Rick Jannerette will be

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Speaker 1: honored with a banner that will be hung in the

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Speaker 1: rafters honoring his long and illustrious career as the Sabers

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Speaker 1: play by play announcer. We want to remind everybody that

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Speaker 1: is going to the game get to your seats early.

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Speaker 1: This will be a pre game honor ceremony, so this

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Speaker 1: will all happen before seven o'clock face off, So try

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Speaker 1: to get to your seats by six thirty so you're seated,

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Speaker 1: you're settled, and you're ready to enjoy the pregame festivities,

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Speaker 1: which will undoubtedly run through a highlight reel of some

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Speaker 1: of Rick's most memorable calls. Doors open to the arena

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Speaker 1: at five, so make your plans accordingly so you do

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Speaker 1: not miss a memorable send off for RJ on r

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Speaker 1: J night. So just a little heads up there for

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Speaker 1: tomorrow night's game. Steve's gonna be there. I'm gonna be there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're all. Yeah, it's amazing too. All the a lot

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00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: of people I know are gonna be there. Yeah. Um

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Speaker 1: so it'll be fun and it's sold out, so it's yeah,

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00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: it'd be a good atmosphere and hopefully put a charge

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Speaker 1: in the players. Yeah, it's gonna it's gonna take some

812
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: mental gymnastics for because you get used to go in

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00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: to the stadium the way it has been zip It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be different tomorrow night. So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Give yourself an early start right from the jump, so

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00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: you're not sweating it out, like, oh my gosh, are

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00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna get in here? Because even in the front

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00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: lobby there going through the metal detectives and everything, that

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00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: takes time. And if it's gonna if the place is

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00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: gonna be full, it's gonna take more time than it

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Speaker 1: usually has this season, right, So just be prepared for

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00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: that and try to plan ahead, sit yourself more than

823
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: enough time to get to your seat, Go early, stay late.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Yeah, playing the Predators, right, I think

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Speaker 1: it's the Predators that Predators on Friday Night, So we

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Speaker 1: look forward to that. Um, I was trying to think

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Speaker 1: off the top of my head. Now, with Todd Bowles

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Speaker 1: in as Buck's head coach, we are at a total

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Speaker 1: now steve of ten teams that have changed head coaches

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Speaker 1: ten this season. That's a third of the league. Oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh. I mean I remember when we were going

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00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: into the offseason we were like, ah, maybe five, six,

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00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: you know it's usually the average number. Yeah, you got

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Speaker 1: up to ten. That's a lot of change for the league.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's pretty much a third of the

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Speaker 1: league as a new coach. The three longest tenured head

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Speaker 1: coaches are Bill Belichick, of courses we all know here

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Speaker 1: in the nc East, John Harbaugh, okay, and Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 1: Where is Carroll on that list? Pete Carroll next, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't know he's because he hasn't been with the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks all that long ten years. Maybe, Yeah, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: even get you in the top whatever. Yeah, I'll look

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00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: it up, but it's it's Yeah, So it's Belichick, Tomlin

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Speaker 1: and Harbaugh are the top three. That's a long stretch

845
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: for those guys, for sure, because all of them are. Man,

846
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: it's got to be like fifteen years now, right, Yeah,

847
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: it's over fifteen years. Yeah, it's over fifteen years for

848
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Tomlin and maybe for Harbaugh too. Yeah, it goes, it

849
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: goes Bill. Oh, Sean Payton was there until he left. Oh,

850
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: then there's Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Pete Carroll is five.

851
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: You were right, then, Andy Reid, Mike Zimmer, Sean McDermott's

852
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: in the top ten. Well that'll just show you how

853
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: how tough it is, how transient and fluid coaching role

854
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL can be. You know who's right behind

855
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: him behind McDermott. Yeah, um, number nine Sean McVeigh. Oh

856
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: well yeah, that makes sense. Man, it is a hard

857
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: job to keep. Man, are you kidding me? Mcvey's still

858
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: the boy, wondered he he's like the top ten longest

859
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: tenured head coach Shanahan. Yeah, oh my god, he's not

860
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: even forty yet. How about that? Yeah? This was and

861
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: this was actually this was this article I'm looking at

862
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: was actually is actually almost a year as eight months old.

863
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: So I'm kind of picking and choosing. But man, oh man, unbelievable,

864
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: very transient and fluid, fluid job position for sure. All Right,

865
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break here because when we come back,

866
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: senior NFL writer from the Athletic, Shield capati is going

867
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: to be joining us. Has a bills related write up

868
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: coming your way on the Athletic tomorrow. We'll get a

869
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 1: little tease on what that entails and get his thoughts

870
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: on the free agent market thus far and what to

871
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: look for coming up in the draft. Jack with talk

872
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: with Shield Capatia. Next here on One Bill's Live presented

873
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio at a Steve

874
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: Tasker who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

875
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role players. Stave a lily,

876
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratosphere of normalcy.

877
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: Power number two here on a Thursday, Chris Brown, Steve

878
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: Tasker with you one Bills Live time to welcome in

879
00:49:55,080 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: now senior NFL writer from the Athletic Shield Kapatia, who

880
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,959
Speaker 1: was down at the owner's meetings this past week. Chill,

881
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: how are you doing. I'm doing well. The owners meetings

882
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: are in the rear view mirror now. The big moves

883
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: in free agency are finished, and now for me personally,

884
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: I start making the transition over the draft time in

885
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. So as you guys know,

886
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: the NFL calendar never stops, and so it'll keep going

887
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: here in the next few weeks before the draft. I

888
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: know you've kept your finger on the pulse of everything's

889
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 1: been going on. Is there any of these moves? I mean,

890
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: it's been an unbelievable offseason for the NFL. I mean

891
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: everything from even last night. We got one last night

892
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: with Bruce Arians calling at quits and stepping into the

893
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: front office. I mean, it keeps going on. I'm waiting

894
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: for the next shoe to drop every day. But has

895
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: there been any of these things? What's been the most

896
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: shocking one? They said, Wow, I cannot believe that happened.

897
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: Has there been any that you did not see coming

898
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: at all? Man? A lot of them? You know, I'd

899
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: be lying if I said I saw a lot of

900
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: these comings. I mean I would say the one, just

901
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: thinking about it in my head was the Davanta Adams trade.

902
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean I thought, you know, if you would have

903
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: asked me in January, where's Davanta Adams playing in twenty

904
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: twenty two, and you know I could put, you know,

905
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 1: whatever part of my paycheck or fake money or whatever

906
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: on it. I mean I would have said the green

907
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. Every single time, I thought there was almost

908
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: no chance that Davante Adams would be moved, whether he

909
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: was playing on the franchise tag or got an extension

910
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: from the Packers. I mean I just looked at Green

911
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: Bay and thought, like, their window is the next couple

912
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: of years. Here they have Aaron Rodgers, he's thirty eight

913
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: years old, He's coming back. Like bringing Davanta Adams back

914
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: is a no brainer. And so that one when that

915
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: news Broke. I mean, that was a legitimate jaw dropper

916
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: for me. I couldn't believe that they were moving on

917
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: from him, trading him. And so again, there are a

918
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: lot of these, honestly that I've been surprised by, but

919
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: just thinking about it that that was probably the most

920
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: shocking one. I know, when you were down at the

921
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: owner's meetings, he had a chance to talk to Brandon

922
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: being a little bit. And that's gonna be kind of

923
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: the subject of one of your write ups coming out

924
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: on the Athletic tomorrow. You know, naturally it's probably gonna

925
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: deal a good amount with von Miller. Would you call

926
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: the von Miller acquisition by the Bills maybe the topper

927
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: among all the moves in terms of what it means

928
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: for that team. I know, Russell Wilson's probably pretty stiff competition,

929
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: but of all the free agent moves, maybe not the trades,

930
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: it's got to be right up there, right, It's right

931
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: up there. Because the thing to me that stands out

932
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: is that you know a lot of these guys who

933
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: signed for big money contracts and free agency, they're going

934
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: to teams that you know, they might be lower tier,

935
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: they might be mediocre, They might be fringe playoff teams,

936
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: but the Bills, as we know, are a team that

937
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: even without the von Miller trade, this was a super

938
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: Bowl caliber team. I mean I was ready certainly to

939
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: pick them among the teams that could come out of

940
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: the AFC before the move, and so, you know a

941
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: lot of times you don't see those teams that are

942
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: already in contention making a splash like that. And so

943
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: for the Bills to really come out of nowhere and

944
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: sign somebody like von Miller, you know, a lot of

945
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: the Bills moves you can kind of say, yeah, that's

946
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: a Bills move. You know, Tim Settle, Jamison Crowd or

947
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: day Quon Jones. I mean, these are the ones who

948
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: are kind of used to year after years sort of

949
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: under the radar, Bill Depp, Bill Tallent on the roster.

950
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: But it's not that big splash move that's gonna be

951
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: Leading Sports Center or whatever you want to say. So, yeah,

952
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: I think in terms of sort of a team that

953
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: was already a contender making a move for one of

954
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: the best free agents out there. Certainly he was a

955
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: top ten guy on my board which I put out

956
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: on the Athletic Yeah, I think it's right up there

957
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: near the top. What long term ramifications do you see

958
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: this having for a team like the Bills, who kind of,

959
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: you're right, stepped outside of their normal mode of doing things,

960
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: stepped outside of it to sign a guy like von Miller.

961
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: What do you think it means long term for this club? Yeah,

962
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: it's a risk reward move. I mean you look at it,

963
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: and I did. Was not expecting the Bills to make

964
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: a big splash like that for a pass rusher in

965
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: free agency, Like I said, usually it's more under the

966
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: radar move. Now, Brandon Being said, Hey, I made a

967
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: big splash move with Stefan Diggs, and that's true, and

968
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: so this one kind of fits that category. You know.

969
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: I think the hope for the Bills is not only

970
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: that you're getting von Miller, a pass rusher who still

971
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: has a lot left as we saw it during that

972
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. It's not just him and what his

973
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 1: production is, whether it's sacks, QB hits, however you want

974
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: to measure it. I think the Bills feel like this

975
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 1: could unlock some of those young pass rushers that they have.

976
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they've spent a lot of draft capital in

977
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 1: recent years on Gregory Rousseau ed Oliver boogie Bashum, I'm

978
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: forgetting one guy? Who am I forget? A j Fins.

979
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: I knew there were four of them. Yeah, you know

980
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: they've spent draft capital on those guys and Sony. Now

981
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: you add someone like von Miller, you know, it's sort

982
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: of like a forced multiplier. It's, Hey, offensive coordinators or

983
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 1: game planning for you on a Tuesday and they're saying,

984
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: what do we have to be ready for? Hey, we

985
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: got to be ready for von Miller. Where now all

986
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: of a sudden, protection slides that way and those other

987
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: guys get some advantageous opportunities. And then during the week,

988
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: you know he's got to This isn't somebody who's just

989
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: relied solely on his athleticism and his natural talent. You

990
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: don't get to where he's been with the Hall of

991
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: Fame career by doing that. He's got the savvy, he's

992
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: got the knowledge of how to set these tackles up,

993
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: about how to you know, make a move in the

994
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: first quarter, and that's just to set the offensive tackle

995
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: up for something you're gonna come back with in the

996
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: third quarter and do something different. So I think that's

997
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: what the Bills are really hoping that we see in

998
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: sports sometimes you're a team that's kind of gotten to

999
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain, but you can't quite you know,

1000
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: get where you want to go in terms of winning

1001
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and you want to add that one

1002
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: last piece. I think they're viewing von Miller as that

1003
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: one last potentially that one last piece for them. You

1004
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: mentioned the draft already, shield and I was I had

1005
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: already asked Steve this question on the show. I want

1006
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: to kind of pose it to you as well. We've

1007
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: seen more player for pick trades this offseason than maybe

1008
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: at any other time in the league's history, with players

1009
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: going here, there, and everywhere. As we've already mentioned, could

1010
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: you foresee that scenario continuing into Night one of the Draft.

1011
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, with as muddled and as mixed as the

1012
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: opinion is on the quarterback class this year, and with

1013
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: teams still out there in need of a quarterback answer Carolina, Seattle,

1014
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: and with some quarterbacks that need to be moved presumably

1015
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later, Garoppolo, Mayfield, among other things that

1016
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: teams may or may not need, could you foresee more

1017
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 1: player for pick deals than maybe the more common pick

1018
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: for pick deals that we usually see Draft weekend. I mean,

1019
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: we'd have to say yes based on what we've seen

1020
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: here over the past few weeks, send a couple of

1021
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: months here, You're right. I mean I think a lot

1022
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: of teams what they did was they saw what the

1023
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: Rams did and they said, wow, look they were just aggressive.

1024
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: They were all in, we know what they're known for,

1025
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: don't worry about draft picks, go win the super Bowl

1026
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: right now. And I think a lot of teams looked

1027
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: at that. You know, how impulsive teams can be at

1028
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: sometimes it's that sort of recency bias where they say, hey,

1029
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,919
Speaker 1: they did it, they won the super Bowl, why don't

1030
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: we do this? We're holding we're being too conservative with

1031
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: these picks, you know. So I think it's kind of

1032
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: swung in that direction, whereas you know, five ten years ago,

1033
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: I thought teams were too conservative with their picks. You know.

1034
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: I think if you're in that window where you really

1035
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: can win a Super Bowl, that you do want to

1036
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: be aggressive and go for it. I mean, that's really

1037
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: what you're what you're playing for now. I think some

1038
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: of these teams maybe they made mistakes because not everyone's

1039
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: going to be the Rams, you know, and so you

1040
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: have to take an honest assessment of where you are

1041
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: as a franchise. Do you realistically have a chance to

1042
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl in the next year, the next

1043
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: two years, the next three years. Then I think it

1044
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: makes sense to be aggressive. But some of these teams

1045
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: might not be there. They might think they could be there,

1046
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: and they're still giving up that draft capital. So it

1047
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: kind of swings both ways. You know, the best way

1048
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,479
Speaker 1: to build is still through the draft. You're getting guys

1049
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: on rookie contracts. You're getting great value if you hit

1050
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: on somebody. But to answer your question, yes, certainly it

1051
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: could be active, whether it's player for picks, whether it's

1052
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: say we'll trade you our pick this year for additional

1053
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: picks down the road. You know a lot of these

1054
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: teams are in quarterback limbo where they might have a

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00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: guy who's okay but not someone they're in love with,

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00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: and they want to say, hey, let's just be flexible

1057
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: next offseason, whereas somebody like Kyler Murray becomes available, or

1058
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: maybe the twenty twenty three draft class with the quarterbacks

1059
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, some of the guys who might be available,

1060
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: Let's put ourselves in position to take a big swing

1061
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: next year and kind of buy our time this year.

1062
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: I do think there's kind of a group of teams

1063
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: in the middle of the NFL who might think like that.

1064
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: The Rams certainly have a template where they just you know,

1065
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: don't care about their first round draft picks. Trade them away.

1066
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 1: We're gonna get a player that's already proven. We're gonna

1067
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: get pay those guys. Do they run the risk, particularly

1068
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 1: in the current state of their roster right now? Von

1069
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: Miller's gone, O b J is hurt and he may

1070
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: not be back with them. They traded Robert Wood away.

1071
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: Do they run the risk of having their window of

1072
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to win a Super Bowl slam shut sooner because

1073
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: of the salary cap in the way they got there

1074
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: in the first place. And do the teams like the

1075
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: Bills run the risk of even though they've got a

1076
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: guy like Josh Allen, even though Kansas City's got a

1077
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: guy like Pat Mahomes, does their windows slam shut quicker

1078
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: if they start signing big name free agents even though

1079
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: those guys play and produce for them. Does the window

1080
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: come to a halt quicker because they pushed all their

1081
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: chips to the table. Yeah, you know, you know, we

1082
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: like to analyze all these different moves and the team

1083
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: building stuff. I mean, in regards to the Bills and

1084
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, as long as those two quarterbacks are healthy,

1085
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna be in the mix for

1086
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: a long time. I mean, when you have guys. We

1087
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: all watched that game. I think front offices in the

1088
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: NFL watch that game and said, man, do we do

1089
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: we have a guy who can compete in a game

1090
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: like that? And if we don't, we might need to

1091
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: rethink what we do. So, you know, I think there

1092
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: is some risk with the Bills in the Chiefs. You know,

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01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: with the Bills specifically with the von Miller move. We

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01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: talked about how it could work out. There's still a

1095
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 1: lot of money to pay for a guy in his

1096
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: kind of age thirty three season coming up this year.

1097
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: That's typically when guys are declining players, and so you know,

1098
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: if you want to play Devil's advocate, you could certainly

1099
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: make the case, Hey, would the Bills have been better

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01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: served to spread that money out to different parts of

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01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: the roster, maybe take some swings on some younger guys

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01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: and build some depth that way. So those are the

1103
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: conversations and the decisions that GM certainly have to weigh.

1104
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: But I think as long as Josh Shallen and Patrick

1105
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: Mahomes are healthy for those teams, they're gonna be in

1106
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: the playoff mix. At a minimum. I think they're gonna

1107
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: be playing in the divisional round pretty much, you know,

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01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: every year in the next three four years, a team

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01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: like the Rams. I think the thing people have to

1110
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: keep in mind with the Rams is that they've had

1111
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: two things going for them. One is they have stayed really,

1112
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 1: really healthy during this run. Now, whether you want to

1113
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: credit some of their training methods and what they're doing

1114
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, whether you want to say just some

1115
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: years you get lucky with injuries, other years you don't

1116
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: get lucky. But their depth hasn't really been tested to

1117
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: the degree of some of these other teams. So if

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01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: one of these years they get hit with some injuries,

1119
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: then yeah, that roster building philosophy is going to get

1120
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: tested because they might not be as deep as other teams.

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01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is Sean McVeigh. You know,

1122
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: McVeagh got to a Super Bowl with Jared Goff, who

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Speaker 1: I think the league has spoken they don't think he's

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01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: a top tier quarterback. And so when you have an

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01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: offensive coach that can really maximize the ability of your quarterback,

1126
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: even if he's not a top tier quarterback, to me,

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01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: that is just a huge advantage. So some of these

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Speaker 1: other teams who might look at that Rams model and say, hey,

1129
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: we can do that, they have to be careful. Do

1130
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: they have those two edges that the Rams have? Right Sheill.

1131
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: We are transitioning, as you said, from free agency to

1132
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: the draft. But I find it very interesting that there

1133
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: are still some rather big names out there on the

1134
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: free agent market who have not found homes. I mean

1135
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew obj as Steve mentioned, Stefan Gilmour is still

1136
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: sitting out there, Bobby Wagner, who we hear is prices

1137
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: too high right now, Jadavian Clowney, Calais Campbell, Gronk. I mean,

1138
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,439
Speaker 1: we could run down the list. Jarvis Landry is still

1139
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: trying to make a decision. I mean, there's a ton

1140
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: of proven veteran players, and I don't know that they're

1141
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: all going to have seats when the music stops. How

1142
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: could this? Could you foresee a scenario? Because I don't

1143
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: know that there's enough teams with enough cap dollars left

1144
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: to accommodate all these players. Yeah, no, I think you're right.

1145
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: I mean the one that really sort of shocks me

1146
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: is Tyron Matthew. You know, he was a guy I

1147
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: thought that, you know, almost every team in the NFL

1148
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: was going to look at him and say, hey, you know,

1149
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: at the right price, this is somebody we've got to

1150
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: be interested in. He's thirty years old, he's been durable

1151
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: in recent years. He's a playmaker, he brings leadership, you know,

1152
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: the intangibles, all the things you would look for. I

1153
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: just thought if you were a contending team specifically, or

1154
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: maybe kind of a fringe playoff team and wanted a

1155
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: veteran leader, that he would be really attractive. And that

1156
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: just hasn't happened yet. You know, maybe he hasn't found

1157
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: the market that he was looking for, the kind of

1158
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: salary he was looking for right now. So that's the

1159
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 1: one I've got my eye on, you know, is somebody

1160
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: there could be a team out there who free as

1161
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,680
Speaker 1: he started, and they said, we're not even going to

1162
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 1: discuss Tyron Matthew because he's gonna call sixteen million dollars

1163
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: a year and we can't pay that, do They? Kind

1164
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 1: of circle back now and say, wait a minute, now

1165
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: he's still out there, let's at least call his agent,

1166
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: call him and see if there's a fit here. Maybe

1167
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: it becomes a one year deal at a lower price.

1168
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: So he's the big one to me, I mean a

1169
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: lot of the other guys there are some questions about,

1170
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, Bobby Wagner, he's thirty two years old. Judevion Clowney.

1171
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: This is the third straight year he's a free agent.

1172
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: I think teams have been a little bit cautious about

1173
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: do we want to pay him a multi year deal,

1174
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: even though he's coming off a very good year with

1175
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: the Browns, so he might have to settle for a

1176
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: one year deal. Odell Beckham Junior is a really tricky one.

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01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, where a cled in the Super Bowl?

1178
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: So when is he going to even be able to

1179
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: get back on the field and contribute? Does he just

1180
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: kind of wait? And August comes around and he says, hey, everyone,

1181
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: look at me, I'm working out, I'm ahead of schedule.

1182
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 1: Who wants to come get me now? You know that?

1183
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: That certainly would not shock me. And then a guy

1184
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: like Stephan Gilmour, great career, but man thirty two year

1185
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: old cornerbacks. You know, he didn't play a lot last year,

1186
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: even after that trade to the Carolina Panthers. So yeah,

1187
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: you're kind of getting into this range now where I

1188
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: think there is some value to be had because I

1189
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: don't think these guys are going to be as expensive

1190
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: as maybe we thought when free agency opened, and so

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01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, there are still some big name players who

1192
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: certainly can help for twenty twenty two still available right now. Shil,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for spending some time with us. I

1194
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: know we were talking just before we came on about

1195
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: how there is no offseason and we proved it by

1196
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: the conversations we're have and can't wait to see the

1197
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: next step. And thanks for spending some time with us.

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01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: All right, thanks for having me. Guys, take care. All right.

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Speaker 1: That's a senior fl writer for the Athletic Shield Capatia

1200
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: who will have a write up up on the Athletic

1201
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow on the von Miller acquisition and how Brandon Bean

1202
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: came to that decision making process to make that deal happens.

1203
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: You can check that out tomorrow, Steve. We didn't give

1204
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: this enough attention earlier in the week. The Will Smith,

1205
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: Chris Rock incident on the Oscars. Well, the lovely people

1206
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: at the Academy have released a statement on the situation

1207
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: because if in case you hadn't heard, they decided they

1208
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: were going to conduct an investigation into the incident. I

1209
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: don't know what needed to be investigated. He slapped Chris

1210
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: Rock across the face and from about seventy five million

1211
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: viewers and everybody that was in the building. But this

1212
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: is the statement from the Academy. Okay, I want to

1213
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: get your feedback on this statement from the Academy. Mister

1214
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: Smith's actions at the ninety four Oscars were a deeply

1215
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: shocking traumatic event. Deeply shocking traumatic event is boldfaced to

1216
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: witness in person and on television. Mister Rock, we apologize

1217
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: to you for what you experienced on our stage and

1218
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,479
Speaker 1: thank you for your resilience in that moment. We also

1219
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: apologize to our nominees, guests, and viewers for what transpired

1220
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: during what should have been a celebratory event. Things unfolded

1221
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: in a way we could not have anticipated. While we

1222
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: would like to clarify that mister Smith was asked to

1223
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: leave the ceremony and refused, we also recognize we could

1224
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: have handled the situation differently. What's your reaction to that? That? Yeah, okay,

1225
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: what's it all mean? You're damn right. You could have

1226
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: handled the situation differently. You should have dragged him out

1227
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: by the scruff of his collar. Yeah, come on, you

1228
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: asked him to leave. I would even question whether you

1229
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: asked him to leave because you knew, damn well he

1230
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: was winning Best Actor two awards later, they should You

1231
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: didn't have the guts to not have the guy there

1232
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: to remind everybody just slapped Chris Rock. You let him

1233
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: come up and soak it all in ten minutes after

1234
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 1: he slapped the guy across the face. What the hell

1235
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: are you doing? Here's the thing, Well, the only people

1236
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: who knew he was winning Best Actor were the Price

1237
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: Waterhouse people. Okay, the guys sitting front and center. Anybody

1238
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: to run won a major award had prime seating in

1239
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: the front. You could have picked anybody that was gonna

1240
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: win any category because they were at the four best

1241
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: tables in the whole damn place. Yeah, I get it.

1242
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 1: And but here's the thing too, And they were right

1243
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: about this. How do you know the guy's gonna because listen,

1244
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: we've seen some some hosts crack jokes about people in

1245
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 1: the audience, and some of them were cringeworthy at different

1246
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: times over the years. Ricky Gervais all these things, right,

1247
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 1: I mean, all these guys, Jack Palance, you know, all

1248
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: of them? Um? You know so? Um? Come on? Could

1249
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: they have predicted it? Yes, No, they could have done

1250
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 1: a lot better. After the fact, what do you do?

1251
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: Go get the bouncers. It's time to go. Yeah, you

1252
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:32,920
Speaker 1: can't haul off and smack somebody on national television at

1253
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:37,799
Speaker 1: an award show and get to go back like nothing happened.

1254
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, you're right. You should get some

1255
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: some big heavies and say listen, uh, mister Smith, it's

1256
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: time to go. We're gonna have to escort you out.

1257
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: That was last call for you. Yeah, follow us. Yeah,

1258
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: and if you don't want to follow, will make sure

1259
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: you still. Yeah. And here's the thing too, somebody has

1260
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: got to have two things. One, the authority to make

1261
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: that call. I mean I don't know who they're like,

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01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: who's the is it the production manager? Who? Yeah? Right,

1263
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 1: who's responsibility does that fall under? And Two does he

1264
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: have the guts to say that guy out? Yeah? And

1265
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: it's a serious thing. We'll get your award later outside, Yeah,

1266
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: it's in the mail. Go on, um and if he wins, hey,

1267
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: his wife can come accepted for him. Oh that would

1268
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: have been good. Right, let's do that, Yeah, Chris Rock right,

1269
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: could have been a long car ride home. Right, you're right,

1270
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:39,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, accept you are right if you're if you're

1271
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: gonna do that, if hey, if you do that, and

1272
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: he's got to go, if you do that in a

1273
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: in a corner bar in your neighborhood, somebody's got to

1274
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: leave if anything. See, So here's the thing. Some people

1275
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 1: know that. Some people say, well, they didn't kick him

1276
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: out because they knew he was gonna win in a

1277
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 1: couple of categories later. So I think that's even more

1278
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: reason to get him out of there. Oh yeah, because

1279
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: now you're gonna shine a light on the guy that

1280
01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: just hauled off on one of the people that just

1281
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: took time to be part of your production and present

1282
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 1: an award. Like those guys don't get paid, they do

1283
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: it for free. Yeah, that's they missed an opportunity. They

1284
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 1: missed what they should have done. You're right, he should

1285
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: have been expelled from the proceedings. If you're gonna get

1286
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 1: violent over a joke in a monologue as as as

1287
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: untasteful or as you gotta be ready for that. I mean,

1288
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: you're it's part of the job, it really is. Yeah,

1289
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'm having a hard time getting my mind around

1290
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: it being having walking up on national TV and slapping somebody.

1291
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: So and I get it, it's sticking up for his wife,

1292
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: and and they've been married a long time and they're soulmate.

1293
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: I get all that. But if it was Chris Rock

1294
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: and me, if he knew he's gonna win, that's when

1295
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 1: you get your wife and you leave. You don't go

1296
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: up and slap him. You just take her and leave.

1297
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: Now let him give you the award with nobody there

1298
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: to accept it. Yeah, that would have been. That's what

1299
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: you do. You don't, you know, you don't. Well, he's

1300
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 1: just he's a celebrity, so he thinks he wants to

1301
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: go up and stand in the middle of it and

1302
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: do all that instead of removing himself. Plus it's conspicuous

1303
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: by his absence. He if you see the footage of

1304
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: Will Smith and his wife as the joke is being told,

1305
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: he laughs, he laughs, and then he does an eye

1306
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: roll and hates it. Right, He looks over. He's like

1307
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: sees that reaction and is like, oh crap, I gotta

1308
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: do something yet, right, But you're right. What they should

1309
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: have done is he should have said to her, Hey,

1310
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 1: you don't deserve this, we're leaving, let's go. Yeah, And

1311
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: that would have been better. D have been the thing,

1312
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: because then it would have put Chris Rock in a

1313
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: bad spot. And then when he wins two categories later, yeah,

1314
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: and then yeah, and it wouldn't have got violent, and

1315
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 1: then you come out, you know, like today, hey, days

1316
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: later with a statement saying listen, um, I was there

1317
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: to celebrate. I worked with a lot of wonderful people

1318
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: on the picture. It was. And to go in there

1319
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: and have you know my wife be a punchline, I wasn't.

1320
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't having it. So the academy, the academy can

1321
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: a B and C. Yeah you know it was ugly, man,

1322
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: that's ugly stuff. Yeah, but you get you know, it's easy,

1323
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: we can you and I can get there having a conversation.

1324
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 1: They had to do this. I'll make all these decisions

1325
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: to like a half a second. Look, I know we're

1326
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: playing a little arm chair quarterbacks. I get that absolutely,

1327
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 1: but that you can't you can't have it. You got

1328
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: to go to the table and be like, look, you've

1329
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: got to leave you. We can either escort you out

1330
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: quietly or we can forcibly remove you. Will leave that

1331
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: up to you. You've got five seconds to make it.

1332
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: Or even so, if he wouldn't have gonna and slap

1333
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: ript Rock, then he should then he should have known, Hey,

1334
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: I should leave list to go. We're out of here.

1335
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:05,919
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. No, I'm with you on that. Yeah, whatever,

1336
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying whatever I mean, I get it's yeah,

1337
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: So he's both both both sides were wrong. Nobody handled

1338
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: that well bad all the way around. Violence is never

1339
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 1: the answer, unless you're covernor Kick. I can't wait to

1340
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: see what the monologue looks like next year for whoever.

1341
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Chris Rock bless his heart,

1342
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: and he was very good at it, and they've had

1343
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:38,839
Speaker 1: other outstanding hosts, but nobody wants that job. Billy Crystal.

1344
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: He did a great job, but you know what he's had.

1345
01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 1: He had it and he's like, man, this is he

1346
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: did ze real fun. Yeah, it is not worth it. Well,

1347
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: I think he walked into it knowing what it was about,

1348
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: and he was very good at pulling it off, and

1349
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: I think he wrote a lot of his own jokes

1350
01:13:56,000 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: rather than relying on the writers. That wasn't even for

1351
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: him either way. Either way, it is that job is yeah, high,

1352
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: that well, especially now in this charge of political correction.

1353
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 1: Huge risk, low reward. Yeah, huge risk, low reward for me.

1354
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean, you get exposure, no question about it. It's

1355
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,439
Speaker 1: a great window and a great billboard for your career

1356
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: and what you're doing now. But man o, man, you

1357
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: can get slapped. Yeah, we'll sign up for that. Can

1358
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 1: I do that next year? Yeah, I'm gonna do that.

1359
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,440
Speaker 1: We could have handled it differently, you think. Okay, academy,

1360
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break here. When we come back,

1361
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna put Steve to a little bit of a

1362
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: test here. I'm not going to tell him the subject

1363
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: matter so he can't cheat and prepare on his laptop here.

1364
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 1: But we'll see how well he does when we return

1365
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health,

1366
01:14:46,720 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right. So, as we mentioned

1367
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: at the top of the show with Todd Bowles, now

1368
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: head coach of the Bucks, we have ten NFL teams

1369
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: that have now changed head coaches this offseason. So my

1370
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 1: challenge to you, Steve, is to try and name all

1371
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 1: ten new head coaches in the NFL for yes, you do,

1372
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two. All right, so you know the

1373
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 1: first one, which happened today, Bowls one for one. Mike McDaniel.

1374
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:48,640
Speaker 1: McDaniel is two and I'm done. No, not Broncos, they're new.

1375
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: They have a new guy. Yes, Uh, Nathaniel Hackett. There

1376
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: you go. That's three. Um, the Minnesota Vikings. No, they've

1377
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 1: still got Zimmer, don't they. No, they don't have him,

1378
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 1: Max Zimmer. Big good day coach. You actually said on

1379
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: the show earlier this week, you wouldn't know this guy

1380
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 1: if he slapped you in the head. I still wouldn't

1381
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 1: know him. Apparently. Still, let's see, let's go to another,

1382
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: take another one. Uh, who else has got a new

1383
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: head coach? Pittsburgh, No, Cincinnriia, don't take up going down

1384
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: to an area. Oh yeah, Josh McDaniel McDaniel is correct, Raiders, Um,

1385
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:34,719
Speaker 1: that's four. Doug Peterson for the Jacksonville Jague Artist, correct,

1386
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: Lovey Smith. There you go, Houston, Texans. Um, let's see

1387
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: who got three left? I got three left, Nime, I'm

1388
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: never gonna get the Minnesota guys. Oh and the guy

1389
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: in Chicago is you know him? You've said his name

1390
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: Chicago in Minnesota. Who's the other one? Who's the third

1391
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 1: one I'm missing? It would be what's the team? Uh,

1392
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 1: it's the NFC Conference Okay? Oh, oh, it's uh New

1393
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. It's uh Doug Allen close, not Doug Allen. Yeah,

1394
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 1: the initials are correct. It's not Doug, but it does

1395
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 1: start with a d H. Dave Dave Allen, Dave Dave,

1396
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 1: Dave Alan. What's his name, Dennis, Dennis Allen. Give it

1397
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: to you, all right? The two left? I cannot get

1398
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: to Chicago, Yes you can. I cannot. I believe in

1399
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,560
Speaker 1: you not get him. It is a former defensive coordinator

1400
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 1: in the league. It is a i'm a blank slate

1401
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: and old former defensive coordinator. Yes, I should know this guy.

1402
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: He's got an unusual last name. It's not like Smith

1403
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: or Oh yeah, yeah, the guy from Indianapolis. Yes, there

1404
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: you go. That's the Chicago guy. The Minnesota guy is

1405
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: mister unknown Billy back doonuts. His name's not Billy Charlie Sack.

1406
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: Charlie bag of chip. He's a former RAMS assistant. Wade Phillips. H. No,

1407
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: that was a good guest. So you got nine out

1408
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: of ten? Steve? Who is it? Kevin O'Connell? I had

1409
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 1: that guy? You right, Oh my gosh, and we forgot

1410
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: We forgot one more, the most obvious one. That's nine.

1411
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: What are you doing the most obvious one? Oh, Brian

1412
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: day Ball correct? Yeah, of course. All right. So now

1413
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 1: so that's good. You got nine out of ten. Now,

1414
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,480
Speaker 1: what's the guy O'Connell? Pull that board down? Is it? O'Connell?

1415
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: Pull that board down? Because you had a graphic he

1416
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: come on part two of part two of the tests.

1417
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 1: You could have put the graphic up. I could have

1418
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: read the whole thing and looked like a genius. Part

1419
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 1: of two of the tests, which is why I asked

1420
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,799
Speaker 1: to pull the graphic down Part two of the tests.

1421
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 1: Can you name all the coaches that were replaced? Oh,

1422
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: I might be able to do this, should be easier,

1423
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 1: Vic Fangio, Right, that's one. Naggy in New Chicago, Zimmer

1424
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, uh um, Sean Payton in New Orleans, or

1425
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians in Tampa Bay. I've killing it, Steve Joe Judge,

1426
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: New York Giant is a tough one. Um the other Langio,

1427
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: I got nobody on thes coach Mike Yeah, Brian Flores, Miami.

1428
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: How many I got left? You got three to go? Um.

1429
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: Now I'm trying to think of which teams I'm thinking

1430
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: looking at um Oh, um would have been Well, would

1431
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: have been Gruden, but it was uh the interim and

1432
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: two more, which is which are the Fancio Osacchi Ruden?

1433
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: And then it's oh, I know, um David Cully, Yes,

1434
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 1: Houston come on the same and then uh, go for

1435
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 1: the sweep, Steve, I gotta, I gotta gotta Tampa Bay

1436
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: already did, Miami already did. Um Bru Sarah Tampa, Oh,

1437
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. There it is. That's it. That's it, Steve

1438
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: Well done the clean sweep. That one. I know. Yeah,

1439
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, I will never know every I'm gonna I'm

1440
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: gonna put it on. I'm gonn's gonna put him in

1441
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: a cup hole by himself, and I'm going to refuse

1442
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 1: to learn who he. I'm gonna tape his head shot

1443
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 1: up at your desk in Cubeville. I see, I know

1444
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 1: I've met at Yeah, that's why I wasn't going to

1445
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: give that one. Got me. I knew you. I got

1446
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 1: angry if I had taken that one off my Ten

1447
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 1: out of thirty two teams have new head coaches this year.

1448
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,719
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Yeah, that is the highest number I can remember.

1449
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't think it's I can't remember any year where

1450
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: it was more than eight. I think eight's the highest

1451
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: number I remember. I heard. I thought it was like

1452
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: an average of eight. I think the average is six

1453
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: or seven. It's got to be at least seven point five.

1454
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 1: This is going to bump the number up. Yeah, that's

1455
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: a big number. And here's and here's the thing too,

1456
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 1: Usually this has done way before now, so Bruce arians

1457
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: throwing the last tenth one on there. Yeah, there's continuity there,

1458
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: so that's not big a deal. Which one of these

1459
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 1: coaching changes do you think, maybe besides people that were

1460
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 1: promoted from within like a Todd Bulls, which one of

1461
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 1: these do you think has the greatest chance for year

1462
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 1: one success despite being a new coach, bringing in a

1463
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: new system and all that. Well, here's the thing you'd think,

1464
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,760
Speaker 1: like maybe Nathaniel Hackett with us Russ Wilson coming in

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Speaker 1: accept the fact that they're playing in the AFC West.

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Speaker 1: You know, right, it's gonna be tough. I think success

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Speaker 1: is gonna come to Doug Peterson. He's had some success,

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Speaker 1: He's won a Super Bowl and he's taken over a

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Speaker 1: young Jaguars team that they had a chance to really

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Speaker 1: spend a lot of money, make it the way he

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Speaker 1: wanted it. Okay, Josh McDaniels has a chance with his

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Speaker 1: offensive prowess to do it. He's got the playmakers, there,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. I like I think Brian Dabo

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01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,720
Speaker 1: could have some success in New York, particularly given the

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Speaker 1: division he's in the Washington The Washington Commanders are in rebuild.

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Speaker 1: Phillies in a rebuild, and I think his quarterback can

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Speaker 1: play with those two quarterbacks. Now, Dallas is a problem

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Speaker 1: for the Giants, but I think those other two teams,

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Speaker 1: Brian day Ball, I think can be better than m

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01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: McDaniel's gonna take the I don't know. I got a

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01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: lot of respect for Brian Flores. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniels can match it. That's a hard job. We'll see.

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01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: But Dennis Allen coming from within the Saints organization, Todd

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01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: Bowles coming from within the Tampa Bay organization and taking

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Speaker 1: over those programs. The Smith too, And here's the thing, Yeah,

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01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 1: and Lovey Smith as well. I think Todd Bowles, I

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01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: mean I think he's taking over a team that with

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady at quarterback and they just won a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl two years ago. Yeah, they're Gonnat's why I was

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Speaker 1: there a playoff team. That's why I was saying, in

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Speaker 1: that division, they're a playoff team. Oh my god, you

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01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: can't even be the best team in the division. It's

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01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: not even close, right. That's why I was trying to

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Speaker 1: exclude the three coaches who were promoted from within from

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Speaker 1: the current coaching staff or the previous coaching staff, depending

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01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: on how you look at it. Aside from those looking

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Speaker 1: at the Giants, Broncos, Dolphins, Bears, Vikings, Jaguars, Raiders, I

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01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: kind of like the Raiders and the Broncos the best. Yeah,

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01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 1: well they they're in, I think, but I still like them,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. The point of the spear is off

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01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I mean, they're Yeah, the spearhead is a

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01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: little bit dull without Tyreek. Yes, and we still have

1503
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: a draft. What comes out of that. There's a lot

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01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: of ground to be covered between now in September, no question.

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01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: But rat I like that too. I like I like

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01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: the AFC West and the fact the Raiders and the

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01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: and the Broncos have got to feel like, you know what,

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01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 1: we got a shot here, let's go and we're gonna

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01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 1: be competitive, like you know that, I would think. So.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Nathaniel Hackett is the right guy

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01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: in Denver, but it was a long time ago when

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01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 1: he was here. Yeah, and he's been around the block

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01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 1: a bunch, and I think that helps coaches. Coaches who

1514
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: have been on a lot of coaching staffs learn a lot,

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01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: particularly when they're ambitious, and that's a I think that's

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01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: a plus for a candidate as a head coach. I

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01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 1: saw a very interesting quote from Josh McDaniels after he

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01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,680
Speaker 1: got the job with the Raiders, which as we know,

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01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: is his second head coaching job that he chose to take.

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01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: He was obviously offered the Colts job, took it for

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01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 1: a day and then backed out, but he previously coached

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Speaker 1: for the Broncos in the same division. And the comment

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01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: that he made was, I in my first head coaching job,

1524
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: I thought coaching was all about the process of winning.

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01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: He said, I learned after that it's about people, and

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01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 1: so he feels much more equipped. He feels this time

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01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: around to be successful as a head coach. And I

1528
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,439
Speaker 1: would argue that he has a defense that, in my

1529
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 1: mind is still somewhat underrated. They have a really good

1530
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 1: pass rush out there, and it only got better with

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01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 1: adding Chandler Jones. So we talk all the time, Steve

1532
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: about premier talent. They've got some premiere talent on that roster.

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams. I like Josh Jacobs a lot even now

1534
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: as a running back. Derek Carr may not be the

1535
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: top tier of quarterbacks, but he's not far behind. He's

1536
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: a he's a really got Max Crosby and Chandler Jones

1537
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: on the pass rush. Derek Carr, David Carr. Derek Carr

1538
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: is a solid quarterback and at times he's exactly what

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01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: they need. Is great leader. He's got the intangibles. They

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01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: follow that guy. He makes the throws, he knows how

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01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,839
Speaker 1: to work an offense. He's a he's a veteran NFL

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01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, so he gives you all of that. Um yeah,

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01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: I think I think Josh McDaniels could have some success

1544
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: there and they're gonna, Yeah, they're gonna, They're gonna do

1545
01:26:57,400 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 1: some things, and you're right. They're defense is underrated and

1546
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: Davante Adams is a game changer man. Josh McDaniels never had,

1547
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 1: hasn't had a wide receiver like Davanta Adams since he

1548
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: had Randy Moss in New England and they were nineteen

1549
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 1: and one with it. Yeah, So yeah, that the FC

1550
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 1: West is still going to be in a really interesting

1551
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: division to watch. Break time for us one more segment

1552
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 1: to go here on one Bill's Live, Stay tuned. So

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01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 1: new Bucks head coach Todd Bowl Steve was introduced to

1554
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: the media to day, and as we know, he is

1555
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: the former head coach of the New York Jets, so

1556
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 1: he's been in this seat before. And somebody asked him,

1557
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: what did you learn in your time with the Jets

1558
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: as head coach? And he said, quote, I found out

1559
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 1: in New York when you try to do things the

1560
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 1: right way finger quotes and stop doing it your way,

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Speaker 1: you have regrets. I'm going to be sure I do

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Speaker 1: it my way. What do you think were the influences

1563
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: in New York that compromised him doing things his way? Oh,

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01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: I think it's media, public pressure, maybe ownership pressure, relationship

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01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: with the GM, compromising on personnel, like doing things the

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Speaker 1: right way. Yeah, well he said I had regrets doing

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Speaker 1: things the right way. And I'll tell you this. The

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Speaker 1: reason he said that is because these guys are He

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01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: doesn't want to burn any bridges or anything. He doesn't

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01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: want to throw anybody in New York under the bus.

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01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 1: He knows what that grinder's life. So if he comes

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Speaker 1: back and says, hey, Woody Johnson was killing us up there.

1573
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: He wouldn't let's do this, or my general manager up

1574
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: there was killing me because he wouldn't let me do this,

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01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: he maybe do that. He's not gonna do that. So

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01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: he couched everything he said by saying, listen, instead of

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01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 1: doing it their way, I'm doing it my way. I

1578
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 1: think he's I think he might even be talking about

1579
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: being a little more cutthroat too. I think he might

1580
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: have been trying to do right by his players, giving

1581
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: him a little extra rope, and then he came to regret.

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01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,320
Speaker 1: It could be it too. I think it might be

1583
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,400
Speaker 1: a little might and Bob a little more hard coaching here.

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01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: I do that too. But he's sitting there will see

1585
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: Bruce arians and they won a world championship, so there's

1586
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 1: not much room to deb in from that, there no

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01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: reason to Steve and I are back tomorrow. We got

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01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 1: our buddy from NFL Films, Greg co Sell, with some

1589
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: more pre draft coverage. We'll see you then