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Speaker 3: This is the Daily Joke with your host Froddy.
Speaker 4: I've got Jack. It's got a great show up for
Speaker 4: you tonight. Donald Trump finally made.
Speaker 5: Some black friends, Joe Biden has his hand up Cookie
Speaker 5: Munssel's ass, and Jordan Klepper talks to the last Nikki
Speaker 5: Haley fan. So let's get right into an ongoing coverage
Speaker 5: of Indecision twenty twenty four. Let's kick things off with
Speaker 5: the race to control the Senates, one of the tightest
Speaker 5: races in Arizona, and although we don't know who's gonna win,
Speaker 5: we already know who's going to lose.
Speaker 2: Breaking news from the nation's capital, Independent Senator Kirsten Cinema
Speaker 2: of Arizona announcing she will not run for reelection.
Speaker 6: Polling in the last months has showed her with support
Speaker 6: of just fifteen to twenty five percent, losing to Gago
Speaker 6: and Carrie Lake. She met the ire of great many
Speaker 6: Democrats around the country, refusing to pass Bilibusterer reform that
Speaker 6: would have allowed for the protection of abortion around the
Speaker 6: country and to codify Roe v.
Speaker 4: Wade.
Speaker 7: In twenty twenty.
Speaker 8: Two, Cinema blocked a critical spending bill to protect a
Speaker 8: tax break for the ultra wealthy.
Speaker 5: That's right, Senator Kristen Cinema is stepping down to spend
Speaker 5: more time with her family, Goldman and sex and I
Speaker 5: love all. She says she's not running for reelection Arizona,
Speaker 5: Like it's her choice, totally not because.
Speaker 4: You're gonna get your ass kicked.
Speaker 5: It's like me saying, hey, guys, I'm not gonna be
Speaker 5: a cue being for the patriots this year.
Speaker 4: That's what nobody offered.
Speaker 5: It's also funny how people usually like independence in this
Speaker 5: very tribal political climate. You know, you have to be
Speaker 5: a real shitty politician if you're independent and everybody hates you.
Speaker 4: Me personally, I actually like that.
Speaker 5: Kristen Cinema taught everyone a very important lesson that you
Speaker 5: can't assume someone's beliefs based on how they dress. She
Speaker 5: came on the scene like, hey, everyone, look at my.
Speaker 4: Pink too too.
Speaker 5: You know I'm liberal, And then she walks into the
Speaker 5: Senate like private equity gets everything. Drill those orphans for oil.
Speaker 5: But let's move on to the presidential race and the
Speaker 5: voters the politicians never forget every time they need to
Speaker 5: win an election. African Americans aka black people. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 5: Trump only got twelve percent of the black vote, but
Speaker 5: this year polls showed that that he could double that number.
Speaker 5: And now that might be a way for him to
Speaker 5: win over black voters without actually having to meet any There.
Speaker 9: Are growing concerns about the way artificial intelligence could be
Speaker 9: used to mislead voters ahead of this year's US election.
Speaker 9: It's emerged that some supporters of the former president Donald
Speaker 9: Trump are creating and sharing fake images of him with
Speaker 9: black people who encourage African Americans to back him in
Speaker 9: November's election.
Speaker 7: At first glance, this photo looks real, only it's not.
Speaker 1: It was generated using AI technology.
Speaker 10: The image was generated by Trump supporters using AI to.
Speaker 11: Target black voters.
Speaker 10: But this picture has been viewed more than one million times.
Speaker 5: Wow, it took the most cutting eggs technology to get
Speaker 5: Trump to hang out with six black guys. This is outrageous.
Speaker 5: You're telling me I've been wasting my time building real
Speaker 5: friendships with black people aka African Americans, when the whole
Speaker 5: time I could have just used AI and gotten the
Speaker 5: same number of likes.
Speaker 4: But seriously, I.
Speaker 5: Can believe these photos would actually swing some votes. I mean,
Speaker 5: if we're going to be this easily manipulated by AI,
Speaker 5: let's just let AI vote for us instead. I mean,
Speaker 5: at this point, we need to be smarter. I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm not going to vote for Trump just because I
Speaker 5: saw a picture of him with a bunch of Asian guys.
Speaker 5: Although I mean they do look like they're having fun.
Speaker 5: I mean, I wonder what they're talking about. I mean, damn,
Speaker 5: maybe it does help a little, but still, I know
Speaker 5: people are worried about misinformation, but it's pretty easy to
Speaker 5: tell if a picture of Donald Trump is AI generator.
Speaker 4: Okay, here's the trick.
Speaker 5: If Donald Trump is in a picture and looks completely insane,
Speaker 5: then it's.
Speaker 4: A real picture.
Speaker 5: Like look at this picture Trump hanging out with black guys.
Speaker 5: This is AI because it's too normal to be real.
Speaker 5: But now this photo of him with black people, this
Speaker 5: is weird. That's how you know it's real. Is that confusing?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 5: How about how about this one Trump with black people
Speaker 5: having a good time at a party. It's pretty normal
Speaker 5: human activity. Therefore, this is AI. But Kanye in the
Speaker 5: Oval office shoving his phone into Trump's face. I mean,
Speaker 5: what the is even happening here? This is too insane
Speaker 5: to be real. And that's how you know it's real.
Speaker 5: There's also other tells, like, you know, check the skin tone.
Speaker 5: Does his face look like a normal human, that's probably ai.
Speaker 5: Does his face look like a dish sponge after the
Speaker 5: chili night, then it's real. So that's the rule. Is
Speaker 5: he smiling in front of three thousand hamburgers, you see
Speaker 5: staring directly into a solar clips, you see touching or
Speaker 5: going off with Middle East dictators, then it's real. I
Speaker 5: hope that clarifies things. But while Donald Trump is trying
Speaker 5: to get the vote of black people, Joe Biden is
Speaker 5: trying to get the vote of cheap people. I mean,
Speaker 5: have you been to a grocery store lately and notice
Speaker 5: your bag of chips has had two fewer chips than
Speaker 5: it used to?
Speaker 4: Well, Joe Biden has noticed.
Speaker 10: Trapflation is just one of the pocket issues that could
Speaker 10: find its way into the State of the Union address
Speaker 10: on Thursday. Today, the White House is announcing a new
Speaker 10: strikeforce tasked with cracking down on price gouging and everything
Speaker 10: from groceries to prescription drugs is on the list.
Speaker 12: Shrinkflation is when companies make the size of their products
Speaker 12: smaller without cutting prices. The size of some Oreo cookies
Speaker 12: has decreased by six percent since twenty nineteen, and a
Speaker 12: family size of wheat thins has dropped twelve percent in weight.
Speaker 12: Even some Sharman toilet paper rolls now have twenty fewer sheets.
Speaker 5: Guys, okay, boom, hey listen, listen, this is such an
Speaker 5: American crisis.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: Oh no, my costco Saca Oreoles only has fifteen pounds
Speaker 5: of Solus sixteen.
Speaker 4: And now when I shit, my pens.
Speaker 5: Has enough toilet paper to clean my fat ass.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know, you know what shrink flating is.
Speaker 7: Celery.
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe you should try it sometimes.
Speaker 5: By the way, if we're gonna complain about toilet paper,
Speaker 5: let's talk about how every time I buy it, the
Speaker 5: toilet paper, it's like, hey, there's eight rolls, but a
Speaker 5: mega so it's ten rolls. But really it's actually eight rolls. Again,
Speaker 5: just tell me tell me how many rolls there. It's
Speaker 5: not going to do math at CBS. And look, I
Speaker 5: do think it's a good political issue for Joe Biden
Speaker 5: to focus on, because do you really think Americans will
Speaker 5: go to the polls to protect democracy? Hell no, but
Speaker 5: if you promise to restore another sprinkles on the popcots
Speaker 5: record turnout. And luckily for Joe Biden, he's now getting
Speaker 5: help from an ally who speaks to young voters, and
Speaker 5: I mean really young voters.
Speaker 12: This morning, the cookie monster has had enough.
Speaker 1: Chip cookie important to me too.
Speaker 12: His beef with shrink flation is getting attention on Capitol
Speaker 12: Hill after he posted quote, me hate shrink flation, me
Speaker 12: cookies are getting smaller.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know what, as a real.
Speaker 5: There's a real death of expertise in this country. So
Speaker 5: I can appreciate what we can't hear from someone who
Speaker 5: knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 5: From more on Cookie Monsol speaking out, we go live
Speaker 5: to Sesame Street to our newest member of the Daily
Speaker 5: Show news team, Josh Johnson. Everybody, Josh, Josh.
Speaker 4: What do you think about cookie monssels bout or stringslation?
Speaker 1: What do I think?
Speaker 8: I think Cookie Monster is being a little blue bitch?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 8: Why does he care about the price of cookies? Have
Speaker 8: you seen the way he eats them? Half of them
Speaker 8: end up on the floor. If the cookies were smaller,
Speaker 8: maybe they managed to get into his mouth.
Speaker 1: Me, No, like inflation.
Speaker 8: Stop talking like that. You live on sesame Street. How
Speaker 8: are you still doing remedial English?
Speaker 5: Okay, Josh, look I love hating stuff too. Why don't
Speaker 5: you be a little too high the monster he's trying
Speaker 5: to fight. He's trying to fight shrink flation.
Speaker 8: Oh you're telling me that Cookie Monster just brought up
Speaker 8: shrink flation the same week as Biden on his own.
Speaker 8: The only words I've ever heard cookie monsters say are
Speaker 8: me and cookie who taught him shrink flation?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 8: I don't want to start any rumors, but I'm starting
Speaker 8: to think Cookie Monster is just a puppet.
Speaker 4: Okay, look, that's crazy. He talked Johns.
Speaker 5: Okay, start of the conspiracy theories. Whether he is or not,
Speaker 5: shrink flation is real. Okay, It's not just cookies, it's chips, soda,
Speaker 5: toilet paper.
Speaker 8: Explain to me why Cookie Monster cares about toilet paper.
Speaker 8: He doesn't have a digestive system. He's never taken a
Speaker 8: shit in his life. He doesn't know the pain of
Speaker 8: sitting on toy with a full of lamb curry, running
Speaker 8: out of paper, and having a side step your way out,
Speaker 8: doing the pants around the ankle waddle like you robbing
Speaker 8: your own house, only for your girlfriend to walk in
Speaker 8: see you then immediately walk out. Do you have to
Speaker 8: deal with that, mister cookie monster? Because me did, me
Speaker 8: very much did?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: But why didn't you just take off your pants completely?
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 5: No, man, I think it's great that Cookie Monster's bringing
Speaker 5: attention to an actual problem here.
Speaker 8: Okay, it's not even the biggest problem on Sesame Street.
Speaker 4: Oscar is still homeless.
Speaker 8: Trump's about to deport Rosita and snuff a bucke snuffle up,
Speaker 8: bucket up, snuffle up.
Speaker 4: He in a gang. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 8: Right, it's pretty messed up that you sent me here,
Speaker 8: all right. I saw Elmo sell and tickles for five
Speaker 8: dollars outside Big Bird Nest.
Speaker 4: No one here is doing well?
Speaker 5: All right, all right, Josh, let's get you out of it.
Speaker 4: Hey, hold up.
Speaker 11: Hold up?
Speaker 4: Do you have five dollars? No? No, no, Josh Johnson,
Speaker 4: everybody is I'll come back.
Speaker 13: You all know what, HURRAI won't be doing a me,
Speaker 13: so don't go well.
Speaker 5: Welcome back to their Daily Show, Today's Super Tuesday.
Speaker 4: Hooray.
Speaker 5: I guess uh this Super Tuesday. We all know what's
Speaker 5: gonna happen. Trump's gonna win, Biden's gonna win. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: get a top of ice cream and hate myself afterwards.
Speaker 4: Just a normal Tuesday.
Speaker 5: The only question is who will Nikki Hayley support us
Speaker 5: vote for after she drops out? Jordan Kleppa went to
Speaker 5: find out in another installment of Fingers the Pulse.
Speaker 14: The general election candidates seem all but settled, but Nikki
Speaker 14: Haley has run a strong campaign, So what will her
Speaker 14: supporters do if she drops out? I went to North
Speaker 14: Carolina to one of her Super Tuesday rallies, held at
Speaker 14: a quaint train station, to find out.
Speaker 15: I was a Trump voter in twenty sixteen, not twenty twenty,
Speaker 15: and so I'm just I'm ready to stop him. I'd
Speaker 15: like to make him sweat.
Speaker 14: How do you make Donald Trump sweat? I think I
Speaker 14: think probably I'll walk down the stairs, will do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no idea if.
Speaker 14: Nikki Haley drops out after Super Tuesday.
Speaker 11: Not going to.
Speaker 3: She's not going to.
Speaker 14: You're defiant, She's not going to. Even if she doesn't
Speaker 14: have the numbers, she shouldn't drop out. No, No, you
Speaker 14: sound like a Republican You're just not gonna accept any
Speaker 14: election result.
Speaker 16: No one.
Speaker 3: That's right, of course, they'd love to keep going.
Speaker 14: Oddly enough, they seemed as anti Maga as the any
Speaker 14: crowds at a Biden rally.
Speaker 11: Mister Trump would sell his own grandmother if he could
Speaker 11: for a prophet.
Speaker 3: First off, I don't think he could win, period, I
Speaker 3: honestly don't.
Speaker 14: And I mean if he does, guess what the country
Speaker 14: loses because he's out of.
Speaker 7: Control, He's chaos.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be working on his court cases for the
Speaker 3: whole time.
Speaker 15: After January sixth and all that. I'm like, there's no
Speaker 15: way I could ever vote for him again.
Speaker 3: You still think insurrection? Oh yeah, And just to be clear,
Speaker 3: insurrection bad. Yes, okay, this is good to know. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to feel out the elector here.
Speaker 4: That's good.
Speaker 14: Here was a group of Republicans who don't like Trump,
Speaker 14: a not insignificant number of voters who could be decisive
Speaker 14: in the general election. It was finally time to ask
Speaker 14: the difficult question. If Haley doesn't go past Super Tuesday,
Speaker 14: who do you plan on voting?
Speaker 3: If it's Trump versus Biden. First, I'm gonna have a cry.
Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna have a beer and then I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have to pray. And if Nicky Haley isn't in the race, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm so sad.
Speaker 7: I voted for Trump twice. I will not. I can't
Speaker 7: say I one way for you.
Speaker 11: Oh my God, don't put me in that I have
Speaker 11: to pick between him or Biden.
Speaker 14: If it's not Haley in the general election, it's it's
Speaker 14: really tough the end of the day.
Speaker 8: If if I'm forced to, you know, I just it's
Speaker 8: gonna be really hard.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just hold my.
Speaker 7: Nose closed, my eyes and me up.
Speaker 3: You know, you're still not sure if you had to
Speaker 3: vote Biden Trump.
Speaker 14: You're still like, you know, would you rather have rat
Speaker 14: poison or what was the other thing that the people
Speaker 14: did in Arizona the.
Speaker 7: Fish the fish tank cleaner?
Speaker 3: Rat poison versus the fish tank cleaner.
Speaker 7: N you're horrible.
Speaker 14: Let's say Nikki Haley doesn't get past Super Tuesday, right,
Speaker 14: and it's Biden and it's Trump.
Speaker 3: Where's your head at?
Speaker 1: I just think both of them are too old.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: We shouldn't be voting for octagenarians at this point.
Speaker 4: Now, Yes, I don't know, let.
Speaker 3: Me try some more up, give me some put you
Speaker 3: in the making a decision.
Speaker 14: All right, Pizza Burgers, I'll go pizza great Alien, Predator Alien,
Speaker 14: Barbie Oppenheimer, Oppenheimer, Trump, Biden, m.
Speaker 4: I must say Biden.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 14: Some are ready to turn the pay don Maga, while
Speaker 14: others are still working through some things. Do you feel
Speaker 14: Donald Trump poses an existential threat to American democracy?
Speaker 3: I really?
Speaker 1: Do?
Speaker 3: You do? I do? So you're like Donald Trump, I'm
Speaker 3: done with him?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: Done?
Speaker 3: Yeah, completely, Donald Donald Trump completely done.
Speaker 14: Hypothetically, if it is Biden versus Trump.
Speaker 3: Who do you support? It's really gonna.
Speaker 7: Be a toss up for me, because I am it'll
Speaker 7: be Trump.
Speaker 11: But I you know, I'd rather just almost not.
Speaker 3: Vote, But I will, I mean, and it'll be Trump.
Speaker 7: I think.
Speaker 3: So that guy you just said you're done with, well struggling,
Speaker 3: just trying to be nice. Why can't you be done
Speaker 3: with Donald Trump?
Speaker 16: He's it's just hmm and the sex cases and I'm
Speaker 16: the I mean, come on, just the fact that you
Speaker 16: have all the criminal stuff.
Speaker 3: It's insane, It is insane.
Speaker 14: No one should support him for president now, yes, yeah,
Speaker 14: but if it's him versus Biden, you will support him
Speaker 14: for president.
Speaker 7: I think so.
Speaker 14: Yeah, the process of soul searching can be agonizing for
Speaker 14: these never well maybe just for a third time Trumpers.
Speaker 14: But maybe the pain is a sign of growth. Do
Speaker 14: you think Trump poses an existential threat to the American
Speaker 14: way of life?
Speaker 11: I think Trump will sell Ukraine to pood. It's a
Speaker 11: threat to global security, and it's to me, it's a
Speaker 11: big issue.
Speaker 14: If we get to the place where it's just Trump
Speaker 14: versus Biden, who do you support?
Speaker 11: Well, I don't want to vote for either one of
Speaker 11: those characters, right, I.
Speaker 14: Mean one person you just described as an existential threat
Speaker 14: to global security.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even with that, voting for an old man
Speaker 3: is too much.
Speaker 7: That's for voting for nothing.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, like global security risk or nothing. I'm
Speaker 14: not saying those are great options, but I'm also saying
Speaker 14: that's not a hard decision.
Speaker 7: That's a hard decision to me.
Speaker 14: It is you could you could feel nothing, Okay, it'd
Speaker 14: be nice to feel something inside, or you could feel
Speaker 14: getting punched in the nuts. If you had to choose
Speaker 14: feeling nothing or punched in the nuts, it feels like
Speaker 14: a no brainer.
Speaker 7: Hey, so at least if you get punched in the nuts,
Speaker 7: you can fight back. You're still there.
Speaker 14: Trump twenty twenty four. It's like a punch of the nuts.
Speaker 14: At least you'll feel something.
Speaker 13: Yeah, thank you, Jordan.
Speaker 5: When we come back, you don't know Harari will be
Speaker 5: joining me on the show, so don't go away. Welcome
Speaker 5: back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is a
Speaker 5: historian flaw So. I'm best selling author of Sapiens. His
Speaker 5: latest Hurdren's book is called Unstoppable Us, Volume two, Why
Speaker 5: the World Is Unfair?
Speaker 4: Please welcome.
Speaker 16: You've out Noah Harari, all right, you are.
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining me.
Speaker 5: I think you know, watching your stuff for the last
Speaker 5: like over ten years before I came to America.
Speaker 4: Love it.
Speaker 5: You kind of specialize in dealing with the history of
Speaker 5: humanity and the rise and falls of civilization. What made
Speaker 5: you think that was appropriate topic for children? This is
Speaker 5: some very heavy stuff, man.
Speaker 17: Yes, but you know you need to understand history to
Speaker 17: know even the most basic things about yourself. Like when
Speaker 17: I was a kid, I was I often woke up
Speaker 17: in the middle of the night afraid there is a
Speaker 17: monster under the bed, which happens to a lot of children.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you call your mom, but you.
Speaker 17: Also want to know why is it happening right? And
Speaker 17: history actually holds the answer. What is the answer, Because
Speaker 17: this is really a memory from hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 17: years ago when humans lived in the savannah, and they're
Speaker 17: actually monsters, cheetahs, lions that came to eat kids in
Speaker 17: the moment.
Speaker 5: So is that something you want kids to know? Yes,
Speaker 5: that these monsters were once real and they killed kids
Speaker 5: in their sleeve.
Speaker 17: It's important to know that because you then understand your
Speaker 17: own emotions and feelings better. You know, you understand that
Speaker 17: I'm not crazy to be afraid of these things. Or
Speaker 17: for instance, you know, lots of kids, like adults, they
Speaker 17: wonder why do I like to eat so much stuff
Speaker 17: that isn't good for me?
Speaker 1: It's something wrong with my body?
Speaker 17: And again history holds the answer what is Because all
Speaker 17: those hundreds of thousands of years ago, it actually made sense.
Speaker 17: If you walk along with the savannah and you find
Speaker 17: something sweet, like sweet fruits, it makes sense to each
Speaker 17: as much of it as quickly as possible, because if
Speaker 17: you eat just one or two fruits and go away,
Speaker 17: by the time you come back, the baboons ate everything.
Speaker 17: So it makes sense under those conditions. Now today it
Speaker 17: doesn't make sense when you open the refrigerator and find
Speaker 17: a chocolate cake to all.
Speaker 1: Of it, but your body doesn't know.
Speaker 17: Your body basically follows the program of evolution from all
Speaker 17: those years ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's programmed. So if you can't do it, there,
Speaker 5: stop it.
Speaker 1: And you can't, you stop it.
Speaker 17: But understanding yourself better is an important step. Okay, well,
Speaker 17: having greater control of your life.
Speaker 4: Those are good examples. But I'm gonna quote your book here.
Speaker 5: Yes, please, let's get to the chapter in the children's
Speaker 5: book called Diarrhea Days where I quote someone who got diarrhea,
Speaker 5: couldn't keep down any food or water, and sometimes they
Speaker 5: died from it. It is this something you really want
Speaker 5: kids to know?
Speaker 17: Yes, because you know it actually explains where most of
Speaker 17: the epidemics and infectious diseases came from. Hunter gatherers suffered
Speaker 17: from no epidemics. They lived in very small bands. If
Speaker 17: somebody had the arhea, then immediately all the band moved
Speaker 17: to another place, and in any case, only.
Speaker 1: Like a few people could get it.
Speaker 17: Okay, But once once people switched to agriculture and we
Speaker 17: had the big agricultural revolution, then.
Speaker 1: You have thousands of people stuck permanently in.
Speaker 5: The town, the first humans air low berries and share
Speaker 5: their pants and move.
Speaker 4: On and ja, Yes, how do you tell that to kids?
Speaker 5: Though? Like, what's your approach to telling you know? How
Speaker 5: do you even everything you just told me? As an adult?
Speaker 5: I'm fascinated by or when you tell a kid, are
Speaker 5: they you know, they're like, okay, give me more berries?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, how do they you know?
Speaker 5: How do they absorb the lesson you're trying to tell them?
Speaker 17: I hope that it's written in such a way that
Speaker 17: even somebody who is eight or nine is fully capable
Speaker 17: of understanding it.
Speaker 1: It's actually more difficult.
Speaker 17: To write for kids than for adults, I agree, because
Speaker 17: with adults, if you don't know something, you just use
Speaker 17: these complicated words and long sentences, and they think they
Speaker 17: don't understand you because they don't understand.
Speaker 1: With kids, you have to speak very simply.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like sometimes we died from diarrhea.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: See, so this is what I think. This is what
Speaker 5: I think I think you wrote. You've written Sapiens before,
Speaker 5: which is a great book for adults, and I think
Speaker 5: that there's too many dumb people who couldn't understand what
Speaker 5: you're saying.
Speaker 4: So you wrote this not for kids. You wrote this
Speaker 4: for dumb adults. That's really what this is.
Speaker 5: This is a book you took it that you put
Speaker 5: some pictures in there. There's an illustration of someone dying
Speaker 5: from diarrhea. This isn't from kid, this is for dumb adults. Right,
Speaker 5: that's planation, right, and you want and like you know,
Speaker 5: I feel like a lot of what you're telling us
Speaker 5: is the message of what history is trying to tell us.
Speaker 15: Now.
Speaker 5: I feel like that's what you're trying to decode right now,
Speaker 5: a lot of it. And I guess what is the
Speaker 5: message that history is trying to tell us?
Speaker 1: Now? Many messages.
Speaker 17: I mean, one thing is to be aware of unintended
Speaker 17: consequences of what we do.
Speaker 1: Like again, the agricultural revolution. People thought it was a
Speaker 1: good idea.
Speaker 17: It brought about epidemics, so same lesson for the big
Speaker 17: revolutions of.
Speaker 1: Right now, like AI.
Speaker 17: The more important message is that the world in which
Speaker 17: we live have been created by humans, and therefore humans
Speaker 17: can change it if something is unfair. It's not the
Speaker 17: laws of nature that created you know, our economy, our nations,
Speaker 17: our religions, they're all created by human beings, right, And.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you see, that's that untopeful. But if you think
Speaker 5: about you're like, oh, no, humans did all this?
Speaker 4: What hold do we have? No?
Speaker 5: I know, but like what do we have of changing things?
Speaker 5: I mean how much? I guess what I'm saying is
Speaker 5: how much of this is inevitable? You know, like when
Speaker 5: you study history, you go.
Speaker 1: History is never terministic. I mean, like you think about the technology.
Speaker 17: Every technology can be used to create very different societies.
Speaker 17: You think about I don't know, North Korea and South
Speaker 17: Korea exactly the same technology, but the US electricity in
Speaker 17: a slightly different way. One place they produce kpop and
Speaker 17: just up north big hats and missiles.
Speaker 5: So okay, am I supposed to just take that? Or okay, fine, Well.
Speaker 17: On the most serious level, again, people have a lot
Speaker 17: of fears about technology, what it will do to our politics.
Speaker 17: But again you think about South Korea and North Korea,
Speaker 17: so the same people, same history, same technology, and you
Speaker 17: have a liberal democracy on once in a totalitarian regime
Speaker 17: on the other. So it's not a technology that is
Speaker 17: shaping our politics of our regimes. It is what we
Speaker 17: decide to do with the technology.
Speaker 5: Sure well you say that, you say that we are
Speaker 5: in charge of the technology in a way. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: you know, the kind of one of the thesis statements
Speaker 5: of your book is that we're all going to get
Speaker 5: replaced by technological being.
Speaker 1: The wrong decisions.
Speaker 17: I mean again, it's it's not inevitable AI like electricity,
Speaker 17: like you know, the earliest I don't know writing when
Speaker 17: people invented writing. So you can do many things with
Speaker 17: the technology of writing. The you can write poetry, you
Speaker 17: can write taxes.
Speaker 4: You can write you can say, well you can write.
Speaker 1: Like a you can. But again it's a choice of people.
Speaker 17: Actually, interestingly enough, the first person that we know his name,
Speaker 17: he was not a conqueror.
Speaker 1: He was not a big prophet or king. He was
Speaker 1: a geek. He was an accountant. Like we have these.
Speaker 17: Stones and clay tablets from ancient Mesopotamia with accounts of
Speaker 17: payments and receipts and salaries and stuff like that, signed
Speaker 17: by these ancient geeks, and they are the first people.
Speaker 4: Okay, So.
Speaker 5: You keep calling these people geeks, and I'm like, do
Speaker 5: you like them or you don't like them?
Speaker 4: I don't are they good or they're bad?
Speaker 1: They're good. I mean, Jesus said the geek would inherit
Speaker 1: the earth.
Speaker 5: No, all right, So back on that topic. So you
Speaker 5: keep saying, you know, stories are the superpower of humans
Speaker 5: in a way, right, everything we kind of do if
Speaker 5: you think about it, from culture, the politics, even money.
Speaker 17: Money, Money is the greatest story ever told. It's the
Speaker 17: only story everybody believes. And you know it's when you
Speaker 17: look at it. It has no value in itself. The
Speaker 17: value comes only from the stories we tell about it,
Speaker 17: as every cryptocurrency guru or bitcoin in.
Speaker 1: Food the US.
Speaker 17: No, it's all about the stories. There is nothing else.
Speaker 17: It's just the story.
Speaker 4: Okay, So is it real? Is a big cooin? You
Speaker 4: telling me investing big poins right now?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Is there a good thing or bad thing?
Speaker 17: I think it's it's kind of a cyclical thing. If
Speaker 17: enough people believe in it, then you can go to
Speaker 17: the supermarket and buy whatever you want. If people lose
Speaker 17: faith in the story, then it's worth nothing. And that's
Speaker 17: true of the bitcoin, It's true of the dollar and
Speaker 17: of every other currency is that people ever invented?
Speaker 5: Okay. You see when you talk about these things, you're
Speaker 5: always very objective. You always be like, hey man, I'm
Speaker 5: just I'm just telling you how it is.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 5: What do you think do you think you know? What
Speaker 5: makes you go for this? You know, because because when
Speaker 5: you talk about history always like you know, the humans
Speaker 5: came out and then some of the eight berries, and
Speaker 5: you know you maintain this kind of academic objectivity.
Speaker 4: But what what makes Yeah? But what actually do you
Speaker 4: go for this? Ship?
Speaker 5: This is awful? What makes you go? Because you seem
Speaker 5: to be okay with everything like she is? It's a tool.
Speaker 5: We don't know, you go like, AYI this is bad?
Speaker 5: Like what what makes you go?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 17: The question about every story, whether about money, ai, whatever,
Speaker 17: is whether it increases or decreases the suffering in the world.
Speaker 5: See, this is a non answer. Just tell me what
Speaker 5: you hate, Tell me what you.
Speaker 1: Hate, what I hate? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay, So okay, can we tell this right now? So
Speaker 5: you think that, uh you're openly atheists?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: Yes, So can you clarify right now that God is
Speaker 5: just made up?
Speaker 4: Okay? So God has made we had it here?
Speaker 16: Okay.
Speaker 4: Can you say to the camera please mean that.
Speaker 1: Humans created God?
Speaker 5: Okay, great, that we settled it. That's great, this guy,
Speaker 5: we solved it.
Speaker 17: Again, it should be emphasized just because human created it
Speaker 17: doesn't mean it's bad, it can also do good things.
Speaker 5: Stop hatting this, just let it right, just go it sucks.
Speaker 5: We need more see this is my this is my problem.
Speaker 5: I think we need more people with kind of objectivity,
Speaker 5: calmly discussing things. I don't think that's you know, is
Speaker 5: anything in what you've seen with humanity telling you that
Speaker 5: we can, you know, pull ourselves out of you know,
Speaker 5: all these downslides in history.
Speaker 17: Absolutely, I mean humans have enorm I mean, all the
Speaker 17: problems we face, we also have the resources to deal
Speaker 17: with them, whether it's climate change, whether it's the rise
Speaker 17: of AI.
Speaker 1: We have the resources.
Speaker 17: What we usually lack is the motivation and the ability
Speaker 17: to cooperate within another. But I mean, you know, some
Speaker 17: people think that to solve the big problems you always
Speaker 17: need to use violence, like you can't make an omelet
Speaker 17: without breaking eggs. But when you look at history, it's
Speaker 17: absolutely not true. You think, for instance, about the feminist revolution.
Speaker 17: After thousands of years of a huge injustice, feminism made
Speaker 17: a huge change in the social structure of humanity without
Speaker 17: starting any wars, without assassinating anybody.
Speaker 1: Gilliatins in city square.
Speaker 17: So that's one of the hopeful examples of how people
Speaker 17: can just by changing the story also change the world.
Speaker 17: I mean the idea that stories.
Speaker 5: I think you're converting people to your religion, the idea.
Speaker 17: That the story is kind of fuel history. There is
Speaker 17: a positive promise there that, you know, if it's all
Speaker 17: about power, the only way to change power structures is
Speaker 17: with violence. But if it's really, at least in part
Speaker 17: about the stories people believe, then potentially by talking with
Speaker 17: people and changing the stories in which in which they believe,
Speaker 17: you can change the world.
Speaker 5: Okay, that's very optimistic, but I'm not over so I mean,
Speaker 5: one last question. What I really enjoyed by your work
Speaker 5: is that you like to tie kind of current modern
Speaker 5: behavior to like our evolutionary beginnings. For example, you know,
Speaker 5: like you said, we ran, we wake up in the
Speaker 5: middle of the night when we're kids because we ran
Speaker 5: from actual monsters children. So I just like to know,
Speaker 5: why is it that whenever I pe, I shiver, like,
Speaker 5: what was the evolutionary Maybe.
Speaker 1: You should ask a doctor. I'm not sure.
Speaker 5: No, I'm asking you, mister expert.
Speaker 1: I'm not an actual from everything.
Speaker 5: The last thing I found very interesting is you said that, like,
Speaker 5: right now we have humans composing things and AI amplifying it.
Speaker 5: That's our current situation. You say, in the future, we're
Speaker 5: going to have AI composing things.
Speaker 17: And what is the images you saw before of AI
Speaker 17: generating fake images?
Speaker 1: Yes, this is basically a kind of art.
Speaker 17: So it's still the first steps, right, but AI is
Speaker 17: still a baby. It's like, you know, ten years since
Speaker 17: the start of the of the major AI revolution, so
Speaker 17: we haven't seen anything yet, and it is very likely
Speaker 17: between a couple of years of decades, much of our
Speaker 17: many of the stories we believing in religion, will be
Speaker 17: increasingly created by this alien intelligence and not by human intelligence.
Speaker 4: Okay, see that's bad.
Speaker 1: That's a bad thing.
Speaker 4: Well you just said that.
Speaker 1: That's not a very dangerous thing. Yes, absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 5: So are you gonna say that? Can you at least
Speaker 5: say that's bad?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's bad.
Speaker 4: Okay, I finally got to say something bad. Okay, I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 5: I guess I'm equal parts hopeful and pessimistic about the future.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, that's a good stance.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, thank you so much for speaking to me.
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