1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A thirteen year old cheerleader's 2 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: body found stabbed over one hundred times in the last hours. 3 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: A bombshell Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How did it 4 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: all start? Listen? Kristen Bailey was reported missing by her 5 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: family on Sunday morning. Hours later, her body was found 6 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: in a wooded area near her neighborhood. The medical examiner 7 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: says she was stabbed to death. Later that day, a 8 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: jogger in the neighborhood found a young girl's body bloody 9 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood's woods. The medical examiner's report, released Wednesday, 10 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: indicates Bailey had been stabbed one hundred fourteen times and 11 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: had defensive That report also revealed the suspected weapon, A 12 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: knife was found in a pond only one hundred forty 13 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: feet from the body. The knife of missing, its temp, 14 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: the temp found in tristan scalp. The knife so violently 15 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: used to murder this little cheerleader just thirteen years old. 16 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: The tip of the knife is still embedded in her 17 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: scalp and skull. Oh yeah, somebody is going to jail, Bobshell. 18 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: Evidence has emerged. Guys, you were just listening to our 19 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: friend Jennifer Ready at First Coast and w j XT 20 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: News for Jacks. Let me introduce you an all star 21 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: panel joining us. First of all, you know him well, 22 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: A veteran defense attorney, Troy Slayton joining us out of 23 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: La Slayton Lawyers. Doctor Bethany Marshall, Psychoanalyst to the Stars, 24 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: joining us out of Hollywood. You can find her at 25 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Start at brand new series 26 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: on Netflix, Bleeding MPI. Doctor Tim Gallagher, the medical examiner 27 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: for the entire state of Florida at pathcarenmed dot com, 28 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Senior Lecturer, University Florida Med School in Forensic Medicine and 29 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: the host of the International Forensic Medicine Death Investigation Conference. 30 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: I bet that's a good time. Karen nel Smith joining me, 31 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: forensics expert lecture, University Florida and hostop Shattered Souls podcast. 32 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: But first to Ray Kipude, lead news anchor Orlando Morning 33 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: News at WDBO. Ray Kapute, Before you say a word, 34 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: listen to this pravaillance video spotted what appears to be 35 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: Tristan Bailey walking north from the amenity he senter at 36 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: one fourteen am thirty one minutes later, two people are 37 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: seen walking east along Salothstone Drive at one forty five am. 38 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: One is wearing shorts of Hidie and white shoes with 39 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: a black Nike logo, the other wearing black pants send 40 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: a black shirt. That same camera then capture one person 41 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: walking back west wearing short's a Hidie and this time 42 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: carrying white shoes with the black Nike logo. That was 43 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: around three twenty seven am. One hour forty two minutes later, 44 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: police found clothing with blood on it. This video at 45 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: twelve fifteen am on May ninth, shows two people believed 46 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: to be teens walking east on Saddlestone Drive. As to 47 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: whether or not that is Aidan Fucci and Tristan Bailey 48 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: in this video, that is not confirmed. This was on 49 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: Mother's Day, the same day investigators say Tristan Bailey was 50 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: found dead the Saint John's County Sheriff's Office. Investigators say 51 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: this video shows Fucci running at one fifty two in 52 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: the morning, so over an hour after two teams were 53 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: spotted walking in the neighborhood. Guys, you're hearing our friends 54 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: at First Coast News and w j XT News. Jack, 55 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: you know the shadowy images caught on a surveillance video 56 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: shows a thirteen year old cheerleader, Tristan Bailey, walking with 57 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: another person. Then later you see a young boy, Aidan 58 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: FISHI aged fourteen, running and you also say someone matching 59 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: the same outfit carrying a pair of white Nike shoes. 60 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: First of all, Ray Kimputo again, thank you for being 61 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: we had with us w DBO. Where is thirteen year 62 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: old Tristan Bailey that evening? Where had she been? Well, 63 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: she was hanging out in her neighborhood in Durban crossing Nancy. 64 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: That's in Saint John's for just south of Jacksonville. It's 65 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: an upper middle class neighborhood and it was late at 66 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: night before any of this happened. But if you wonder 67 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: why a thirteen year old girl will be out late 68 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: at night on a Saturday night, it was just that 69 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: type of neighborhood. It was tree lined to surveillance cameras everywhere. 70 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean, people didn't anticipate problems there. It was in 71 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: Saint John's Fort, a beautiful place where a lot of 72 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: people were moving these days. I understand Raykomputer that there 73 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: was like a community center where they had bann Do 74 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: you recall that Jackie, they all the teams, and we 75 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: had one of those, believe it or not, out in 76 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. And when I was a little 77 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: it seems so big. Now I drive by it, I think, 78 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: I can't believe that was the huge community center. It's 79 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: very small when I look at it now. But we 80 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: would have bands in there and dance and play games 81 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: and just all sorts of fun half Halloween carnivals inside, 82 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: bobbing for apples, and everybody would go there. And it's 83 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: my understanding that Tristan had been to a community center 84 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: event with the whole neighborhood and a lot of kids 85 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: coming in and out that night. This shadowy surveillance video 86 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: we're seeing, where are those cameras? Ray Kaputo, Well, the 87 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: surveillance of the video cameras are scene are actually doorbell cameras, 88 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: I believe, are ones that are attached to homes. So 89 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: they're on these homes on Saddle Stolen Court, so you're seeing, 90 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: you know, somebody's looking off their window. That's what they 91 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: might have seen at that time of night, in the 92 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: one o'clock hour. So how in the world does eighteen 93 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: boys mother get tied into all of this. You've got 94 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: a little cheerleader age thirteen, stabbed about one hundred and 95 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: fourteen times to the tip of a knife in her skull. 96 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: Now you've got an unrelated teen boys mother charged. Why Jackie, 97 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: please play the new sound. We received a series of 98 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: videos late this afternoon, including those from inside Puccie's Durban 99 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: Crossing home, which show what detectives say is Fucci's mom 100 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: washing blood off of his jeans. All your Sides. Robert 101 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: Bradfield is live tonight in the newsroom looking through that 102 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: video as prosecutors build a first gree murder case against 103 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: the Saint John's County teenager Robert One good evening. That 104 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: video inside Fucci's home is about sixteen minutes long, but 105 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: we're going to show you just the first part, which 106 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: shows his mother, Crystal Smith, walking into an upstairs bath room, 107 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: and that is where the state's attorney says Smith is 108 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: seen cleaning her son's bloody jeans. When officers went into 109 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: the home, they found a pair of wet jeans in 110 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: Fuchi's bedroom, and as we reported earlier this summer, the 111 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: jeans and a drain in a bathroom tested positive for blood. 112 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: Smith was arrested in June. She is charged with evidence tampering. 113 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: Now other video released today shows who detectives believe are 114 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: Fuchi and Bailey walking in their neighborhood on the morning 115 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: of May ninth, the last time Bailey was seen alive. Okay, 116 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: Troy's Layton veteran defense attorney. If mommy had just thrown 117 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot of clothes into the wash, that would have 118 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: been one thing. Because I've actually thrown a shoe, a 119 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: cell phone, a coat hanger into the washing machine with 120 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: no idea what I was doing. Okay, just like Jody 121 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Arius when she threw her Digi cam in there with 122 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: accidental photos of the murder scene. I could get that 123 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: it's an accident. But for mommy to pick up her 124 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: son's blue jeans and then go in the bathroom and 125 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: wash the blood out by hand, good luck slight. Well. 126 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: I know, Nancy, when I was a kid and I'd 127 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: play some soccer and I'd roll on my knees on 128 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: the soccer field and big green stains would be down 129 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: my pants. Those wouldn't just come out in the normal wash, 130 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: and my mom, God bless her, would would scrub those 131 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: things to get those stains out. So maybe she was 132 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: just acting like a good mom, saw some really dirty jeans, 133 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: thinking that wouldn't come out in the regular wash, and 134 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: scrub them to make sure they got the stain out. 135 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: What we don't know is that the mother knew that 136 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: this was blood from a potential crime scene and was 137 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: intentionally trying to destroy evidence. That's what we don't know. 138 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: How can I slice up everything? He just said, Jackie, 139 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: could you play that new sound one more time? We 140 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: received a series of videos late this afternoon, including those 141 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: from inside Puccie's Durban Crossing home, would show what detectives 142 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: say is Fucci's mom washing blood off of his jeans. 143 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: All your Side, Robert Bradfield is live tonight in the 144 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: newsroom looking through that video as prosecutors build a first 145 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: re murder case against the Saint John's County teenager. Robert 146 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: One good evening. That video inside Fucci's home is about 147 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: sixteen minutes long, but we're going to show you just 148 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: the first part, which shows his mother, Crystal Smith, walking 149 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: into an upstairs bathroom, and that is where the state's 150 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: attorney says Smith is seen cleaning her son's bloody jeans. 151 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: When officers went into the home. They found a pair 152 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: of wet jeans in Fucci's bedroom, and, as we reported 153 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: earlier this summer, the jeans and a drain in a 154 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: bathroom tested positive for blood. Smith was arrested in June. 155 00:09:52,200 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: She is charged with evidence tampering crime stories with Nancy Grace. 156 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: Let's think about what we just heard to doctor Bethany Marshall, 157 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: Psycho and was joining us star Netflix Bleeding Empire Dodger. Bethany, 158 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: I'd really like to see the time stamp when mommy 159 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: is cleaning the jeans in the bathroom. There's no doubt 160 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: she knew it was blood, Okay, because there's still blood 161 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: in the drain, and it's Tristan Bailey's blood, the cheerleader's blood, 162 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: so she knew it was blood. She knew he had 163 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: been out playing soccer the night before. But Slayton has 164 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: a valid point. But if she was doing that, it's 165 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: a three o'clock in the morning, that's extremely surreptitious, Bethany, Nancy, 166 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: Let's look at it this way. This is not the 167 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: first time mommy has tried to cover up bad acts 168 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: that her son, Fucci has undertaken. You know mothers know 169 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: then you know your son. You know your daughter, you 170 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: know their character, you know what they're capable of. Bethanie, Bethanie, 171 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: I know what class he's in right now, and which 172 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: class he's in right now. You darn right go ahead. 173 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: You know whether or not they've done their homework. You 174 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: know who their friends are. You know whether or not 175 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: to let them have sleepovers at certain people's houses. He 176 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: is a young tween, he's barely a teenager. He's out 177 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 1: at this community center until I think it's three to 178 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: forty in the morning. Mommy has to be aware that 179 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: he has a girlfriend, this cute cheerleader. She has to 180 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: have been worried about this all along, because all parents 181 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: worry about their children's first dating relationships, and she has 182 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: to know that her son is just a little bit strange. Okay, 183 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a good thing that mother 184 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: is watching blood off of her son's jeans, and what 185 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: she should be doing, she's a good mom, is sitting 186 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: down with him and saying, where did this flood come from? 187 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: What were you doing out till three to forty in 188 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: the morning, What was going on at that community center? 189 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: She should be parenting him, not covering up for him. 190 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: You know another issue, and I'm gonna throw to you. 191 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: Then I'll circle back to Karen Smith and doctor Tim Gallagher, 192 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany. Let me go to Raykaputo, first lead anchor 193 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: for WDBO there in Florida. I also learned that, according 194 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: to documents that we have just gotten our hands on, 195 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: one of Aidan Fichi, age fourteens, female friends tells police 196 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: he frequently talked about killing people, that he would take 197 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: his knife out and pretend to stab her with it, 198 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: and that he would draw graphic pictures of depicting mutilated bodies. 199 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: You've forgotten to mention that, Rayka Puto. Yeah, well, you 200 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: know some people like their guns, Nancy, this kid likes knives. 201 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: One of his friends even said that he had a 202 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: nickname for his knights. He called them picker and poker, 203 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: and both of the right stop actually stop, yeah, banking 204 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: from the fire hydrant too much, too fast. I gotta 205 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: write that down. He named his knives, yes, ma'am, picker 206 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: and poker. Are you saying picker and poker? Okay, yeah, 207 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll need to bring the shrink in on that. 208 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: Go ahead. Named his knives picker and Poker. Did you 209 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: know that I didn't know that. Go ahead, yeah, well, 210 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean this kid liked his knives. They found many 211 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: more in his home too, eating Futee clearly had a 212 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: thing for sharp objects. Man, he talked about killing people, 213 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: he collected knives. I mean, talk about the writing being 214 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: on the wall. You know what, It is just so 215 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: ironic that when we throw around the phrase the writing 216 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: is on the wall, that actually came from the Old Testament, 217 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: and now it's being used rightfully. So Raki Puto and 218 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: the gruesome murder of a thirteen year old little girl, 219 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: thinking you know, my little girl is thirteen. Lucy and 220 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: John David are both thirteen years old. This little girl 221 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: was stabbed one hundred and fourteen times with a knife 222 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: tip still in her skull. Ray capedo WDBO. That's not 223 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: all that was found in the home of the Bloody Clothes. 224 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: I understand that the cops recovered a notebook filled with 225 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: violent drawings of women, including a woman with red excess 226 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: on her breasts and severed arms with blood pouring out. 227 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: Oh that's correct, Nancy. I mean, this kid had some 228 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: really disturbing things going through his hud and it makes 229 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: you wonder. Getting back to the eye. She was so 230 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: interested in helping him out after he got in trouble. 231 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: But but again, how can you not notice that this 232 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: is your child and all these things are going on 233 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: in their lives. He had the knives, he had the drawings. 234 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: He was even telling people about what he did or 235 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: what was gonna do. He was a clearly a disturbed 236 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: young man who needed help, and he was crying out 237 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: for quite a bit of time. But both chries didn't 238 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: go answered. Raka Puto, I hardly think that naming your 239 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: nice picker and poker and drawing mutilated women and keeping 240 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: the drawings in your room, I would call that the devil, evil, hate, misogyny, 241 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: and I think he knew exactly what he was doing. 242 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: I really don't know which way to go, but thankfully 243 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: I've got a panel of experts. Doctor Bethany, do not 244 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: start up second verse same as the first. But he's insane. 245 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: If he were insane, he would not know to run 246 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: away and lie. Well, thank god, Nancy. Sociopathy, which this 247 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: young man surely suffers from, is a personality disorder, not 248 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: a psychiatric disorder, meaning that it affects. It's an affliction 249 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: of the mind, not the brain, so certainly he knew 250 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: right from wrong, Nancy, this is a budding serial killer 251 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: in the making. You know, the love for the knives, 252 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: picker and poker, the drawing of the woman with the 253 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: red xes on her breast, the severed arms this guy got. 254 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: This young man derived great thrill and satisfaction from thinking 255 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: about stabbing and dismembering. And you know, mothers fall into 256 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: two categories when it comes to having a child like this. 257 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: The first category is a mother who knows there's a 258 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: problem and seeks help, gets a psychiatrist and a psychologist, 259 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: gets social services, and wants to help their son have 260 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: a better life. And the second category we see all 261 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: too often is the mother who aids and a bets 262 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: the child, covers up, looks the other way. We'll do 263 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: anything to save the child, even if it means that 264 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: there are other victims out there in society. And surely, 265 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 1: surely this mother falls into the second category. With washing 266 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: the blood off her son's jeans, This mother knew what 267 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: was happening, Nancy. She saw this all unfolding for a 268 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: long long time. Why does she even let him out 269 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: in the community past midnight? To doctor Tim Gallagher, a 270 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: medical Examiner for the State of Florida. This occurred in Florida, 271 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: Saint John's County. Doctor Gallagher, would you explain what happened 272 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: to this thirteen year old little girl because we're talking 273 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: a lot about what may or may not ego through 274 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: the mind of her killer, But what about her, what 275 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: happened to her? Well, first of all, one who mentioned 276 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 1: that doctor Bulick in Saint John's County, which is District 277 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: twenty three in Florida, is probably one of the most 278 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: intelligent positions that we have in the state. He is 279 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: Yale educated and trained in Fort Lauderdale. Wonderful, wonderful man. 280 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: But going getting back to her, what was his name? Bulick? 281 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: B u l I C okay, go ahead. So you've 282 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: got a great man, You've got a great doctor on 283 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: the case. Go ahead, wonderful, wonderful man. Um. I can't 284 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: say enough about him. But getting back to her, you know, 285 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: so initially, you know, there was the surprise of the stabbing. 286 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure there was an argument leading up to it. 287 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: But when I don't know about that, I don't know 288 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 1: about that, Doctor Gallagher, because this was not boyfriend girlfriend. 289 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 1: They were just you know, in the same grade they 290 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: knew each other, there was no romantic interest, like they 291 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: had an argument. So I don't know if if there 292 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: was an argument or if he led her out there 293 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: in order to kill her. I mean he had a 294 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: knife for him. But that's said go ahead, right, But 295 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: you can see there was a struggle. She had defensive 296 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: wounds on her forearms, and what defensive wounds are is 297 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: she was actually holding up her arms to defend herself 298 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: against the knife and he was slashing at her arms 299 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: on her forearm. I gotta tell you somethinking, doctor, I 300 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 1: just saw at the corner of my eye. I wanted 301 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: to do it myself as you were talking. But Jackie here, 302 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: as you were saying, held her hands up like that. 303 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: How many times have I done that in front of 304 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: a jury when you say defensive wounds trying to cover 305 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: your face or your body. And this little thirteen year 306 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: old girl, as doctor Tim Gallagher is telling us, was 307 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: covered in defensive wounds trying to save her life. Right, 308 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: So she was conscious and aware of what was going 309 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: on at that point. You know, she knew at that 310 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: point she was fending for her life. But eventually she 311 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: became overpowered and these stab wounds to her head. Oftentimes, 312 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: if the knife is sufficient, will penetrate through the skull 313 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: and into the brain, and we see that could have 314 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: been the case here when a tip of the knife 315 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: broke off and lodged itself into the skull. So she 316 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: may have died from the brain injury, or she may 317 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: have had other stab wounds on her chest organs, that 318 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: being the heart and the lungs. Either way, it was 319 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:31,479 Speaker 1: a very protracted assault and had gone on for at 320 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: least a minute or two, Doctor Tim Gallagher, have you 321 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: ever seen a case where there were over one hundred 322 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: stab wounds like this? Unfortunately, that's more common than a 323 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: single stab wound. This is something that we'd like to 324 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: call overkill. Where there is an emotion involved, or emotions 325 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: are involved in the homicide. The person gets absolutely worked 326 00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: up and just loses track of how many times stabbing 327 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: them more or the frustration of the release of stabbing 328 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: this person is pleasurable to the assailant, and that we 329 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: find that more often than we hold on. I'm trying. 330 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to take in everything you're saying, doctor Gallagher, 331 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: because frankly, when anybody on this panel speaks, sometimes I 332 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: have to get them to repeat it. I'm just a 333 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: trial lawyer and and your thoughts are actually very in depth, 334 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: and I have to to take it in and understand it. 335 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: He just said. Doctor Tim Gallagher, he was a renowned 336 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: medical examiner, believes and you may think this is outside 337 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: of his province that he's talking about mental emotional, sexual 338 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: gratification of a defendant. But when you've seen thousands of homicides, 339 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: you began to statistically analyze what you see. And I 340 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: think he's right, whether it was a sexual release, or 341 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: you have a goal and when you achieve that goal, 342 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: you feel proud, you feel satisfied. Maybe it was that 343 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: type of feeling he got from this brutal murder Crime 344 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace Karenel Smith joining me, forensics expert, 345 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: lecturer and host Shattered Soul's podcast. You've seen so many 346 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: homicides as well, agree or disagree, and why I do? 347 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: I've seen it. Unfortunately, just like doctor Galla said, it 348 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: does happen, whether or not it's a rage or like 349 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: he said, a sexual release, whatever the motivation is. Multiple 350 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: stabbings are more common than a single stabbing. And Nancy, 351 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: there's something that I need to talk about of regarding 352 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: not only what Tory Slayton said, but what everybody else 353 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: has been saying about these genes. Mommy can try to 354 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: clean them all she wants, but they tested positive for blood, 355 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: and that tells me they did a simple color test 356 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: after a visual inspection, the blood was still on those pants. Now, 357 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: if the blood was still on the pants, there's a 358 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: possibility that patterns can still be discerned even after they've 359 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: been cleaned. If that blood was allowed to dry on 360 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: the fabric first, and if there were small blood droplets 361 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: on those genes, that put the wearer, which would be 362 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: Aiden Fucci, and close proximity to the victim time the 363 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: crime was committed. It is absolute proof that he was there, 364 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: that the blood broke up into droplets while he was there. 365 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: It can also help position him over the victim. His 366 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: DNA was found on her body, which means he probably 367 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: injured himself since he used a knife. That's very common 368 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: as well. So I just want to command the Saint 369 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: John Sheriff Sat John's County Sheriff's Office for their Yeah, 370 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: wonderful work on this. They really did a great job 371 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: processing this, plus finding the weapon as well. Guys, there's more. 372 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut twenty five. This is 373 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: Heather Crawford, First Coast Knees. So let's talk more about 374 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: these new documents. They were also shedding light on the 375 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: night Aiden Fucin his parents were inside of an interrogation 376 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: room after Tristan Bailey's body was discovered. Aiden's parents questioned 377 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: him with no detectives in the room but the audio 378 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: in video devices they were rolling. According to the report, 379 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: his mother told him that Bailey was found in their neighborhood. 380 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: The report says, Aidan then asked, is she good? The 381 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: mother's response, no, she's dead. It's all on you right now. 382 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: The report says, Aiden asked, how is it my problem? 383 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: They reportedly said because he was the last one seen 384 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: with her. The report also says the mother asked where 385 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: Bailey went after they parted, and Buccie stated that she 386 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,719 Speaker 1: probably kept walking. His father asked, according to the report, 387 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: he didn't turn around to see where she went, and 388 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: he replied no now. According to the report, Aiden's parents 389 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: told him to find his story and stick to it. 390 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: He was arrested at three thirty the next morning. His mother, 391 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: Crystal Smith, would later be arrested accused of tampering with 392 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: evidence in this case Troy Slaton joining me La Veteran 393 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: Criminal Defense Attorneys Slayton Lawyers APC Troy. So the recording 394 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: devices are still rolling and this Aiden Fucci, h fourteen, says, 395 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: how's it my problem when they tell him Tristan is 396 00:25:53,720 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: found dead. So, firstly, there is no parent child confidentiality 397 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: privilege known to the law. So although they may have 398 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: thought that they were speaking privately, the parents and the 399 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: child suspect, the police were perfectly in their right to 400 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: be recording inside that police interrogation room. And so anything 401 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: that he said to his mom and dad can be 402 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: used against him. And even though he would say to 403 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: his parents and he's probably experienced in deflecting his parents 404 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: off of things that he's done wrong over his past 405 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: fourteen years, that doesn't protect him in this case. I 406 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: want to get your thinking, doctor, Bethany Marshall, of what 407 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: you have heard that audio recording that we've gotten of 408 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: the parents talking to fourteen year old Aidan Fucci. Well, 409 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: I think this is not their first rodeo. I think 410 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: he's done all kinds of things that they have aided 411 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: embedded in covering up. Maybe not a homicide. Maybe this 412 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: is the first catastrophic violation of the law he's done. 413 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: But I'm sure there's been lesser infractions. I'm sure he 414 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: has tortured animals, gotten bad grains, hit people, poked at people, 415 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: maybe stabbed people, even in a non homicidal way, but 416 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: in a threatening way. So these parents are well skilled 417 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: and well schooled and covering up for their child and choice. 418 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: Lacoln said. Something I think is so fascinating, and we 419 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: see this with parents, is that from the time our 420 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: children are born, they teach us how to accommodate to them, 421 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: They teach us how to cover up, but they also 422 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: teach us that we can't look past their flaws and 423 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: we have to take the heart rolls road of reprimanding 424 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: them and punishing them and disciplining them to make them 425 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: better human beings. And if this young man was born 426 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: as a sociopath, he really needed his parents to discipline 427 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: him and to try to override those tendencies. And apparently 428 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: he just never got the memo. Well, doctor Bethany, I 429 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: want you to hear something, and that is how this guy, 430 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: Aidan Fucci behaved in the cop car. Take a Listen 431 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: to our cut twenty seven our friends at Action Needs 432 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: Jacksonville News. Snapchat videos show Fucci in the back of 433 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: the cop car before he was a suspect, having fun 434 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: cop car. Yea, Christen, what's up? Guys? Walk out when 435 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: you see this. In a month, another video from inside 436 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: Fucci's home appears to show his mother cleaning the jeans 437 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: police say Aiden wore the night of the murder. She's 438 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: been charged for tampering with evidence to those genes. Investigators 439 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: say both the genes and the sink she washed them 440 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: in tested positive for blood. Not only that in that 441 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: cop car, he made a statement having fun in an 442 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: eff and cop car. Hey, anybody's seen Tristan? Says that 443 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: in the car. But that is not the end in 444 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: my mind, that shows he knew what was happening. Crime 445 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. What I'm saying, Troy Slayton, is 446 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: that this guy is in the back of the car 447 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: mocking everything and everybody. I'm having fun in an effing 448 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: cop car. And then he makes some comment like, hey, 449 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: anybody's seen Tristan, She's dead? Why did he say that? 450 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Listen to our cut twenty 451 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: seven one more time. New Snapchat videos show Fuchi in 452 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: the back of the cop car before he was a suspect, 453 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: having fun cock car. Yea Christ, what's up? Guys? Walk 454 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: out when you see this. In a month, another video 455 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: from inside Fuchie's home appears to show his mother cleaning 456 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: the jeans police say Aidan wore the night of the murder. 457 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: She's been charged for tampering with evidence to those genes. 458 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: Investigators say both the jeans and the sink she washed 459 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: them in tested positive for blood. I mean. It is 460 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: argued amongst many legal eagles choice Slaton that his six 461 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: selfie in a cop car shows that he's actually proud 462 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm murdering cheerleader Tristan Mailey to me, Nancy, it shows 463 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: the elements of not guilty by reason and Evan say, 464 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: which in Florida uses the McNaughton rule. If I were 465 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: to use the evidence from the medical examiner on this 466 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: show and the testimony of doctor Bethany Marshall from this show, 467 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: we clearly establish, by clear and convincing evidence that he 468 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: was not guilty by reason of insanity at the time 469 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: that he committed this act. Well, I couldn't disagree more 470 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: because here he is in a cock car saying, hey, guys, 471 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: has anybody saying Tristan Lightley shooting a peace sign, having 472 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: fun in a cock car, being a snarky brat. That's 473 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: hab somebody one hundred and fourteen times running from the 474 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: crime scene throwing a knife into the water. And then 475 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: why do you think he saw a knife in the water, 476 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: Troy so nobody could find it? Why is that smarter 477 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: wapping with his blood on it, but brings the sheath home, 478 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: comes home and just throws thready away the murder weapon. 479 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: And finally, only one already Ann that believes that shows 480 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: evidence of guilt, I mean someone Nancy. He knew what 481 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: he was doing, and mocking Tristan from the police car 482 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: is the same m as the murder. We were talking 483 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,479 Speaker 1: about it earlier in the show, that he wanted to 484 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: triumph over her control her. He likely got sexual satisfaction 485 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: from killing her. I doubt this was a frustrated rage. 486 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: I think he was romancing the idea of killing somebody 487 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: for a long long time. I think his family knew that. 488 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: I think it was sexually exciting to him. That's why 489 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: he had the red crosses over the woman's breast and 490 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: her arms severed. You know he's going to disable her 491 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 1: so he can rape her. That's what that picture is 492 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: all about. Well, you know that's what we call troy. 493 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: We call malingering. It's when you make up a fictitious 494 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: illness to look ill when you're not more for you, guys, 495 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: that bears on state of mind. Take a listen to 496 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,479 Speaker 1: our cut twenty six. This is Danny Bozzini Action News 497 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Jack's new evidence giving us a glimpse into the moments 498 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: before and after a love thirteen year old Tristan Bailey 499 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: was brutally murdered. Please say, in this video, Tristan is 500 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: walking with her accused killer, fourteen year old Aidan Fucci, 501 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: just after midnight Sunday, May ninth, Mother's Day. Ninety minutes later, 502 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: another surveillance video shows Fuci running in the opposite direction 503 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: with what appears to be his shoes in hand. The 504 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 1: State Attorney's Office releasing another clip, timestamped at three thirty 505 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: am that same morning. You can see Fucci walking up 506 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: to his home, heading to the front door, and going inside. 507 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: Fucci initially told investigators that he left a friend's house 508 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: with Tristan and they walked together until she turned onto 509 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: her street. That story changed a few more times. Okay, 510 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: let me capsulize this, Karen Smith. We've got him running 511 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: from the scene, carrying his shoes that were likely bloody, 512 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: throwing away the murder weapon, slowing down when he gets 513 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: to his own home, walking in, changing his story multiple times, 514 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: and continuing to lie about it to me. All of 515 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: that shows he knew what he did was wrong. And 516 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: that is as Charice Layton throws around the technical turn 517 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: the McNaughton test, it's very simple. Did you know right 518 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: from wrong at the time of the incident. It shows 519 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: me evidence of guilt, hiding, running, destroying evidence. That's right. 520 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: And guess what bund found. Knife was found one hundred 521 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,479 Speaker 1: forty feet away. The shoes were found in his room, 522 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: likely bloody, that's why he was carrying them. They found 523 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 1: his gene, they found his close they found her DNA 524 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: all over it, They found blood patterns, they found his 525 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: DNA on her body. They found the tip of the 526 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: knife embedded in first skull. This is an open and 527 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: shut case in my mind. Now it's up to you 528 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: lawyers to battle out whether or not he was quote 529 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: unquote insane. But to me, every single step, every single 530 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: thing that has been seen in the forensics of this 531 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: case shows me that he had a premeditated, murderous mind 532 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: and he knew what he did was wrong. He's running 533 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: from the crime scene with evidence in his hands. To 534 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: me as an open and shut case, Nancy, Doctor Tim 535 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: Gallagher joining me out of Florida medical examiner Dodgor Gallagher. 536 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 1: So he throws the murder weapon into a body of water. Well, 537 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 1: how can they still get both his and her DNA 538 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: off the murder weapon. Well, that's a really good question. 539 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 1: You know, water does tend to degrade DNA, so if 540 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 1: they recovered it very quickly, then it would certainly be possible, 541 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: especially if not only blood was on it, but the 542 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: flesh of the victim and flesh of the assailant was 543 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: on there. Then DNA could be recovered from that quickly. Yeah, Noisy, 544 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: I have to jump in here. There was another case 545 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: out of Jacksonville, the Cherish Periwinkle case, where one of 546 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: my coworkers recovered an entire full thirteen LOCI profile from 547 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: Cherish Periwinkle's neck after she was submerged in water. So 548 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: it is absolutely possible to find both sets of DNA 549 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 1: on that murder weapon. I was just thinking about Cherish 550 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: last night. As a matter of fact, Karen, she was 551 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: a little girl that was led out of one of 552 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: those superstores with a sex predator who murdered her. Well, 553 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: we see where the defense is headed. I mean, Damon's really, 554 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: couldn't you just surprised us once? I mean ever since 555 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: Flip Wilson, the TV star said the devil made me 556 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: do it. I mean, here we go with the demons. 557 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: Take a listen to new footage we've obtained this young man, 558 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: Aidan Fucci and his first court appearance, and yes, demons 559 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: also appear. Take a listen to our friends at four News. 560 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 1: Jack's I'm going on, why are you trences take my soul? 561 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: Take my soul, My soul? What's going on? Demons take 562 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: my soul? Blah blah. I guess he's going to be 563 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: a co defendant with Billzebub. We wait as justice unfalse 564 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: Nancy Gray's crime story signing off Goodbye Friend one