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Speaker 1: would you have wanted? Just something that we can move around.

421
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: You gotta understand, like we understand that the scholarship is

422
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: a blessing, and we think and I went to UC

423
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: like tremendous school, had a blast, best time in my life.

424
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: But at the same time, like we as a unit,

425
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 1: you know, whether it be football or basketball, we're bringing

426
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: the school millions upon billions of dollars in revenue, you

427
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So the fifty dollar scholarship is

428
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: a blessing, thank you, because and otherwise we wouldn't have

429
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: been able to go there. But at the same time,

430
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: there needs to be a balance there, and it's gonna

431
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: take a bunch of people that are thinking outside the box.

432
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: And I think it needs people up my age, people

433
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: that are just kind of just getting finished and have

434
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: a good grasp on it. Then these older people that

435
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: never played college basketball, doesn't know what it's like to

436
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,239
Speaker 1: be on a scholarship, doesn't know what it's like not

437
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: to have nothing in the bank, you know. I mean,

438
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 1: it needs to be people that came from that to

439
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: understand working with them to come to a common ground.

440
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: But I think I kind of look at it like marijuana,

441
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 1: Like marijuana was so looked upon and frowned upon, but

442
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: it finally was discussed and now it's starting to become legal,

443
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So now that I think

444
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: the fact that, like the n C Double A is

445
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: under a lot of heat right now because they're starting

446
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: to reveal how much money they're making. You mean, so

447
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: now that it's talked about it, I think in a

448
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: matter of time, you know, hopefully three to five years,

449
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 1: something will be figured out, something will give something. What

450
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: is your relationship with U C. L A Now? Like,

451
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: are you a guy that they'll call and say, Yo,

452
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: we got this kid and he's in blah blah blah,

453
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: we we you know, it's funny. How does that work? Funny?

454
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: You say that I'm I'm with a group called Brewing Legends.

455
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 1: It's it's myself. We started this myself, Baron Davis, Earl Watson,

456
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: Gelannie McCoy, Chris Johnson, Toby Bailey, Ryan Bailey, Trevor He's

457
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: Ray Young, Josiah Johnson, Ryan Hollands, Jason Flowers. Might be

458
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: maybe about fifteen of us, and we're in serious talks

459
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: because there's a huge disconnect with us where U c

460
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: l A. And for some reason, I talked to Duke guys,

461
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: Carolina guys, other schools like when these colleges want these

462
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: kids recruited, they lean on those guys to go help recruit.

463
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: They don't lean us for ship And we're we still

464
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: have a you know, we still oh these kids, like

465
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 1: we have these kids know us, like might not use

466
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: the best we had? You say that ain't given time

467
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: at fifteen twenty guys in the NBA like, why not

468
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: use us to help recruit these kids? And that's because

469
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: that's what the other big schools are doing. But there's

470
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: a huge disconnect there and that's something that that concerns us.

471
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 1: Like I said, we started a group called Brewing Legends,

472
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: and we're trying to bridge that gap and uh find

473
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: a common ground. Well, why do you think that is?

474
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that you're saying that, because I would think

475
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: they would go to like somebody like you during your

476
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: whole career. Come on, man, all the teams I played,

477
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 1: all the people I know, Baron Davis, same thing, or

478
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: they don't they don't go Yo, Matt, we want fucking John,

479
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: don't you would think that you think it's another I

480
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: think it would be like you've been doing it for

481
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: years and you might have been at the end of it, like, oh,

482
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: we don't want this old I mean, would be an

483
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: honored to do something like like you said that it

484
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: was an amazing experience. But they're just out of touch there,

485
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, they're they've been a prestigious un university for

486
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: seven years. Yeah, Russell Westbrook, I mean, come on, man,

487
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: like it's on the table, you know. I mean, it's

488
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: on the table, and it's there's no reason why we

489
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't be getting these big time recruits. It's you see,

490
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: it's l A. It's you see l A, beautiful women weather.

491
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean stars are at your games. Like we may

492
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: need a new coach over there, we may need to

493
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: get Earl Watson in the head coaching seat over there.

494
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: But I mean amazing program and like why would you

495
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: not want to And it's because they're out of touch

496
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: with the common kid today. When you were in college,

497
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: how nuts was it? Like, you know, like you know

498
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: the the stories, you know, the myths of being a

499
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: college athlete. U C l A. You said it. I mean,

500
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine being a scholarship basketball I dreamed of that,

501
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: honestly when I was a kid in New York. I

502
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: was so far from from it. You're in happening, But

503
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: like when you're nineteen eighteen and you're fucking U c

504
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: l A. And my my freshman yor was unique because

505
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: my freshman yor was so was the NBA lockout. So

506
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: we have the number one recruiting class in the country.

507
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: We got Baron Davis coming back, Earl Watson coming back,

508
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: and then it's a lockout. So we have fucking Shock

509
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: and Kobe walking into our games and just the whole

510
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: Polly Pavilional shut down and everyone will go crazy because

511
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: we got these superstars like at like we're the only

512
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: showing town now, you know what I mean. That was

513
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: the not going to U c l A. The one

514
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 1: bad thing I can say is it wasn't a college town.

515
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: It's l A, you know. So there's so much ship

516
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: going on, Like we don't have that Durham or that

517
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: Chapel Hill field like we have that l A field.

518
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: So we're we're in Hollywood clubs, at eight team party

519
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: and type things like it's not like the local bar,

520
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: even though we did that well too, but it was

521
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: just such a big experience. So my freshman, we got

522
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: shot coming to the game, Kobe coming to the game,

523
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: Paul Pierce coming to our games. I it's like we're

524
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: the only like so I'm just like, God, damn, this

525
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: is what l A is like, Like I'm in love.

526
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: And what about the summers that u c l A.

527
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: Do you remember? I mean you might still playing, you

528
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: if you ball, but like these are like infamous games.

529
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, I visit my sister. I

530
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: saw a magic mark Aguire Isaiah, legendary games. So what

531
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: did you Who were you playing against in the summer? Everybody,

532
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: Um Ship Jordan came up there, Kobe, um Shack while

533
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: you were in college, you name it. They came up

534
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: there and played and you played with them. I didn't

535
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: get to play against Jordan. I just heard about the Jordan,

536
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 1: but I played with Shack. I played with Obie who

537
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: elsecuse to? I mean, you name uh Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce,

538
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: Like this is so this is this is when they're popping,

539
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like the the the u

540
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: c l A summer runs with the reason why our

541
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: team went to the Proggie Miller. Reggie, I mean, if

542
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: you any if you're anybody was there. Everybody was there.

543
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: And we ran as a unit too. So we're running

544
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: as u c l A. Bruins against these guys and

545
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: beating these guys, you know what I mean. So we

546
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: got hard knocked early on, and that's how we really

547
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: learned what it's gonna take to be at that next level.

548
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 1: I mean, the college was competition, and we were up

549
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: and down as you see as a team. But for

550
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: for some reason, the summertime runs when it was just

551
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: fucking I'm guarding Kobe, this is when. That's when. That's

552
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: when it started for me, you know what I mean.

553
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm in high school, excuse me, I'm in college playing

554
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: against these big time pros, and I knew, like, okay,

555
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: ship my offense is and what there is is. But

556
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: I come mother fucking guarthy to do. So that's what

557
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to lock into. That's fucking crazy. Um

558
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Do I think I asked you this last time and

559
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you again because of the way you

560
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: played and just the way you're able to articulate yourself,

561
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: and it's such a it's such a dichotomy between your

562
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: quote unquote image. Do you have any interest in coaching

563
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: my kids? I want to coach my kids, you know

564
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't. I don't I want to.

565
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't really, you know, the bas NBA was a

566
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: blast for fifteen years. But I'm just I was blessed

567
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: to be able to play it. I wasn't supposed to

568
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: play at to begin with, and I got fifteen years.

569
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: I kind of want to remove myself from that. I

570
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: want to coach my kids. I want them to grow,

571
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: I want them to be happy. On the one thing

572
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: I do want to do, I would like to get

573
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: back into the NBA and talk to these kids about

574
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: utilizing their brand and realizing how much weight you have

575
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: off the court as well, because we don't leverage that

576
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: its like we should. And me being a journeyman that

577
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: played on several teams, I'm leveraging the funk out of

578
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: it on the business side and gonna make a killing

579
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: in my post life. Like when you weren't thinking about

580
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: that though, you're not thinking about thinking. No one's talking

581
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: to you about it. They're talking to us about it.

582
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: But it's going in one year out the other, you

583
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,959
Speaker 1: know what I mean, right, because you're young, and then

584
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: you have money for the first time, so you're really

585
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: not trying to hear nobody. So I kind of say,

586
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: like when you come into I give the gaps, like

587
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: nineteen to six aren't really paying attention. Twenty seven to

588
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: thirties when you start listening, and nineteen you're probably as

589
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: dumb as you're ever, like I think I was. I

590
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't say because we already also have a lot of responsibility.

591
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: So some of some of us are dumb, some of

592
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: us are young, some of us was bricks four. But

593
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: I think we have to have more responsibly because we

594
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: realize we're representing our team, we're representing the NBA, we

595
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of money, we have a lot of

596
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: RESI spills. I wouldn't say dumb. I would just say young,

597
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So nineteen to twenty six

598
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: is it's in one year out the other twenty seven

599
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: to thirty you're listening. If you get into your thirties,

600
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: that's when you're taking notes at these meetings and understanding

601
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: that okay, life after basketball is on its way, and

602
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: and I went through all those stages. That's why I know,

603
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: and I've seen it and I've done it. So I

604
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: think they need to have people that are like more

605
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: more like me and younger that can resonate with these

606
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: kids and get their attention than having these old as

607
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: dudes that they have talked. Excuse me, just being real,

608
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: These old people talking that these kids cannot relate to.

609
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: And they want to hear talk, you know, I mean,

610
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: they want to hear someone that played and been through

611
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: the wars talk. They don't want to hear someone that's

612
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: looking in on something to make an assessment. I got

613
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: you someone who could sort of get their attention. We have.

614
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: You have to be able to resonate with them. You

615
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: have to know where they came from. You have to

616
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: know what it's like. If you didn't make the NBA,

617
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: you'd probably be a drug dealer or in trouble or

618
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: in jail. Are dead type people, you know what I mean.

619
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: And in my situation wasn't that dire, but I was

620
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: around it and it could have been, you know what

621
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: I mean. Like if people know my story, how my

622
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: you know my dad was a drug dealer. Now it's

623
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: the life I grew up and so it could have

624
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: went that way. But that's where a lot of these

625
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: kids come from, so they need someone talking to him.

626
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: They came from the same ship. Um, your friend, your

627
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: rival turned out to be a friend and and partner

628
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: in crime with the Lakers. Kobe Bryant, only fucking Kobe

629
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Bryant would say, I'm going to retire make movies, and

630
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: then one time, the first time out of the box Oscar,

631
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: I love it. I think it's amazing. Um. You know,

632
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: he was someone that, oh his thing was, you know,

633
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: I want to be able to sit the the table

634
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: with m J six rings, meaning you know, I mean,

635
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: I want to be able to sit at that table.

636
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: And that was his whole fight, this whole goal to

637
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: get to six and he didn't do it. But uh,

638
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, when the when the Oscar stuff started coming up,

639
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: I start texting him. We're texting back and forth, you know,

640
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: wishing him good luck the night before, and then when

641
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: he wanted I said, you know, bro, you're at a

642
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: table of your own. You've got five rings in the

643
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: Oscar now, so he's a he's not at Mike can't

644
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: even say to his table now, you know what I mean.

645
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: So that's dope to think that this man went from

646
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: off the court to make you the Oscar piece. And

647
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, I just I mean, he's he's made for greatness,

648
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, once he opened up

649
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: and showed the world the dope dude, we've seen it

650
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: in the locker room, I knew he was gonna suck

651
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: the game up. Yeah. I mean, it's just like he's

652
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: the fucking guy that would be like I'm gonna dedicate

653
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: because I was like, Okay, you're gonna make movies. He

654
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: can do anything. Man, He's intelligent, you know, well versed

655
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: several languages, very smart. He's Kobe, he's got a smile.

656
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: He played for the Lakers, he did his thing. He's

657
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: a legend like the he can do whatever the funk

658
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: he wants. So you're you know, I've talked to you

659
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: about your passion for making movies, for for getting involved.

660
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: Uh what do you want to do ideally in regards

661
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: to entertainment making movies. I want to be behind the

662
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: scenes and make amazing, true real ship. Um that's my

663
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: goal is making real stuff. I mean I got introduced

664
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: to TV from the bullshit reality basketball wife stuff. At

665
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: this as bad as it was, but it gave me

666
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: a behind the scenes chance to kind of see like, yo,

667
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: if they have some real people trying to get some

668
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: positive ship back here, it's an amazing platform. Is that

669
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: what sports spurred it? Yeah, that's how what really made

670
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: me want to start thinking about, like, I want to

671
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: make TV because I want to make positive stuff, like

672
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: you know, encouraging stuff like real ship instead of this

673
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: stereotypical ship that the world falls in love with. It's

674
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: scripted as fun. They think it's unscripted. But anyway, so

675
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: that's where it started. I've been working on it for

676
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: a long time, man, I probably say seven or eight years,

677
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: and ship and just in general, and things are finally

678
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: starting to come to a head. That's why I was so,

679
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: you know, along with movies, that's why I was okay

680
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: with retiring after last year because all this stuff that

681
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: is booming now it's been you know, five four years,

682
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: something's five years, seven years, somethings like everything hit now.

683
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: That's so I was looking from that standpoint. But you

684
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: know the problem. We got the Green the Huey Newton

685
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: biopic Green Lit. So that's going down. We're rolling, man,

686
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: And thanks to you for hooking me up with your

687
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: God you hook me up with Wood Harry. We're gonna

688
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: do the Wood Harris Matt. That motherfucker. He's all man.

689
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: He talks a lot of ship, a good human. We

690
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: sat down and chopped it up and fellowship and had

691
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: a great time. You know, he's gonna play Eldritch Clever Force.

692
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: He's doing it. Yeah, he's in. He's gonna be also

693
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: a producer. Um. Since then, he's brought me a couple

694
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: of other projects we're jumping on. Been a blessing. Um.

695
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: So we're doing the Human Newton Pick. We're casting now,

696
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: talking to directors. We have an amazing cast assembled so far.

697
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 1: So it's been it's been pretty special. Um. And then

698
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough. You know, my best friend Polly,

699
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: she's Sugar Knight's niece, so she was able to get

700
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: us the life rights from Sugar. So we're doing a

701
00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: death Row series like Norco style. Um, we're from one

702
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: of the producers from Stars Mark Cannon only only it's

703
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: basically that's what it is, but real, you know what

704
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean? And my whole thing is like being a

705
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: fan of death Row from the outside. I grew up

706
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: on Pox, Snoop Dre all this big even West Coast

707
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: or East Coast ship. But I've always been a fan.

708
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: I'm just like, that's the story that has to be told,

709
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: Like Sugar has never spoke. It's everyone else has told

710
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: their story, but Sugar was. Is he aware of this?

711
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: Yes she did, he said, yeah, So it's uh, it's

712
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: the paperwork has been taken care of. Um. But our

713
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: whole thing too if we want to make as authentic

714
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: as possible, So we want to knock all these beefs down,

715
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: whoever had beef, whoever didn't like who We need to

716
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: bring everybody together to make this as authentic as possible.

717
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: Do you think that's possible? Man? You know, we have,

718
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: we we have, we have. My best friend is the

719
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: wild card, so she is, you know, well versed in

720
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: those areas and knows a lot of people. So like that,

721
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: My whole goal is to sit everyone down and just

722
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: get massive stories about one of the biggest record labels

723
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: of all time. Like we need Snoop input, we need

724
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: Dre's input. You know, Jimmy Iveen is someone that was instrumental,

725
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: instrumental around that time. You know, Dads and corrupt were there,

726
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: like this was crazy ship, you know what I mean?

727
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: So we need everybody because everyone has a different version,

728
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: everyone sees something different. But we can come down and

729
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: make all this ship as real as possible and and

730
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: really tell this story. Man you are That's a fucking task. Man, Yeah,

731
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: that is the challenge. I'm excited about it though. Man,

732
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: It's something like I said, there's something I'm passionate about me,

733
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, and I have that same passion. You saw

734
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: me ready to fight and dive on the floor and

735
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: bust people's asking basketball for for for for business. Now

736
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: you might did ship. It's gonna because I mean I

737
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: did the Tripical Quest documentary and this Tripical Quest. These

738
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: guys just you know how to brotherly. I mean, this

739
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: is you're talking about a whole other level of like

740
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: we're coming from a piece that you know, a place

741
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: for peace and love. Man, we want everyone to eat.

742
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm not I'm not worried about the money in

743
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: this situation. Like I want to make a great project.

744
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: I want to give, you know, help get those people back.

745
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: You know. Maybe then maybe some money from this project

746
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: can help them get going in a way, you know

747
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's why we want to knock

748
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: down all walls, all all beefs. We want everyone who

749
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: who celebrated that time to come together, help us make

750
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: this ship, you know what I mean, and then we

751
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: can all everybody's gonna eat off it as well. Tupac Uh,

752
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: his name has come up recently a lot I gotten

753
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: in the fold on this. It seems like for some reason,

754
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: these young rappers, some of them, some of my handful

755
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: of young rappers, I didn't I don't know why it's Tupac.

756
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: You would think you'd be the last one, Yeah, anyone

757
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: but him. You would think, do you know him? Like

758
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't understand what like? How? Like I saw some

759
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: bullshit on Twitter although it's like fake news, Like why

760
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 1: do young rappers not like Tupac. I'm like, first of all,

761
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: just because two or three people SATs, I just don't understand,

762
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: as mad as it makes us. And I'm I got

763
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: a Tupac tattoo right here, like I'm gonna die hard.

764
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: You see Tupackets all around my house. That's the one

765
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: person I wish I could have met him and been

766
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: down with and just kick knowledge becauld you. I think

767
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: he died at what lok whether he was talking about

768
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: his age like he was a revolutionist, a rapper, he

769
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: was everything, you know what I mean. But for these

770
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: these new rappers, you know, as as mad as it

771
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: makes us like, it doesn't matter, we have to understand

772
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: that they're they're now. You mean, there's no respect for

773
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: the past, which is fucked up. It's the same way

774
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: in basketball they forget about you. You know, these these

775
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: legends that played before. It's like, it's what have you

776
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: done for me lately? Type ship. That doesn't mean you

777
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: should I'll be out here disrespecting them like these kids

778
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: are doing. But it's because you would never hear a

779
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: ball player say, oh, I've never heard of Isaiah Thomas.

780
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: He didn't have an interesting game. You wouldn't hear a

781
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: baseball player go Barry Bonds, not here not. I mean,

782
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: they're not students of rap, you know what I mean.

783
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: It's a fat it's uh, it's what's hot now, Like

784
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: they're not going to go down in history, you know,

785
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they're right now. And it is what, like

786
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: I said, as mad as it makes us, it just

787
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: is what the funk it is? Who would you? This

788
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: is then obligatory question and and it's interchangeable. Who would

789
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: Matt Barns today and again. You know, I know it's interchangeable.

790
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: If I said Matt Born's top five favorite rappers, who

791
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: would you say to what's going on today? No? No, no,

792
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: just I'm saying, you're you're bold. Okay. I know it's

793
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: always hard to leave him Pock Biggie okay, um j

794
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: nas Nasty nas Um. In the booth, I really in

795
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: the booth, I really funk with Drake. I really like

796
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: Drake in the booth Man. He's a He's an evil

797
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: genius in the booth. He lyrically like him. J Cole

798
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: and Kendrick to me are the in today's music. You know,

799
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: the top lyricists agree. But Drake is a tricky motherfucker man.

800
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: He has a play on words and he'll he's a motherfucker.

801
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: So I put him in my top five. You know

802
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: what I'll say this about Drake, I've I've broken his balls.

803
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: But now with the insurgents of fucking mumble rapping and

804
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: and and my theory of the mumble rapping, the reason

805
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: why they're mumbling is because they don't want you to

806
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: hear what they so they're trying to decipher it in

807
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: and in it that the cadence. You know, if you

808
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: don't have some fly ship even like the Mego's mom

809
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: lightweight mom. But they're staying some ship, you know what

810
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean. Ship, but these other like dogship, bad rappers

811
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: like you want you're trying to trick me into this

812
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: new thing, but really what you don't you caden to

813
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: the beat that gets you, bob, and you don't really

814
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: like you really gotta sit like I can't even move

815
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: to I want to focus that much on here. But

816
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: they're saying you can't hear it. They don't want you

817
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: to hear that's the point. That's why it's mumble, you

818
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But like I said, you gotta

819
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: you gotta move with the flow or you're gonna get

820
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: left behind. I'm getting left behind on this and I'm

821
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: completely cool with that, me too, completely. I don't want

822
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm staying. Keep me in the dart of it, man.

823
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm listening to more like neo soul, like her and

824
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: you know, Sabrina Calderrun. I'm listening to more of that

825
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: now than this music, you know, Drake. I don't even

826
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: if they do, they is there even slow jams and

827
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: cold No, they don't talk about making love because everything

828
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: is about you know, popping drugs and fucking. So there's

829
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: no love like, there's no you don't court women no more.

830
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: Now you drug him and is the rap games drug

831
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: There's no there's no and excuse me saying that, but

832
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: that's the truth. That's what that's what they're rapping about.

833
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: So there's no like, there's no boys to men, there's

834
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: no joy to see, there's no That's what I grew

835
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,479
Speaker 1: up on, Tony Tony Tony like trying, you know, trying

836
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: to make a girl's close fall off by singing to

837
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: her instead of like, you know what I mean, what's

838
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: that's I'm surprised that's not a song, that's what that's

839
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: drug drug and I copyright that ship right now, I'm lawyer.

840
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: So whoever makes that song, you have to give me

841
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: a little something off that drug him and produced by

842
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: Matt Buddy. Excuse my language. You know what I mean,

843
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: you know that's that's what the rap game is right now,

844
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 1: No excuse my language. To try. It's a sensitive time,

845
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: right now, it's a sensitive time. You really have to

846
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: stay aware of that a hundred and especially me because

847
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: everyone already thinks I'm an asshole. So make sure you

848
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: when you first here, you keep listening to to let

849
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: you know that's not my point of view. That's just

850
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: what the rap game is. Now. We're making very clear yes,

851
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: because I mean I want no more trouble. What do

852
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: you think about that? Like, you know, last time I

853
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: was with you, you said something like you like you,

854
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: You said you almost like even my guy Dean, he

855
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: was like he was great, And I was like, and

856
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: you you explained this to me when you played ball.

857
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: It's not that you played a character. You played a

858
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: role on the team you were. You know, it's like

859
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: you hang around Rick Mhorn. I was with him in

860
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: the Big Three all summer and obviously Rick is older,

861
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: but you know, I think even in his meanest time,

862
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: like he was mean on the court, right, it was

863
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: just you know, it's a competitiveness, you know what I mean.

864
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: But and I had to explain it to my twins

865
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: once they started traveling with me and go into other

866
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: arenas when people would boom me and they would be like, Daddy,

867
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: why do they boo you do they not like you?

868
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: And I'm just like they would love me if I

869
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: was on their team, but they don't like me because

870
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm giving their their best player. I'm gonna give

871
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: their best player a tough night. So I'm gonna get

872
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna talk ship, I'm a bump them,

873
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do stuff to you know, make their crowd. Man.

874
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: That's why they hate me because people will boom me

875
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: and talk to you to me while I'm just sitting

876
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: on the bench like for a breather. You know, I

877
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: don't even have to be on the court to get

878
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: ship talk to you. When I come out for a

879
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: warm ups, people are talking to me. So it just

880
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: is what it is. I was the mone that you

881
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: hated to play it against, but you love to have

882
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: on your team. And you're gonna ask any of my teammates.

883
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: But I had to explain to my kids that they

884
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: love wrestling. So I broke it down to imagine, whoever

885
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: I'm playing, its whole Colgan and I'm the undertaker. I'm

886
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: coming dressed in black and I'm coming to beat up

887
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: the hero, so to speak. And I had to explain

888
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: it to him in that way, and that's why they said, so,

889
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: so you're just acting, And I was just like, it's

890
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: acting to extense. But I'm not an actor. I'm just

891
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: playing a character on my team, you know what I mean.

892
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: And that made them understand because it hurt my feelings

893
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: when when they really thought that, you know, people don't

894
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: like Daddy, and that's not the case. Like they like me,

895
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: they just don't like to play against me, you know

896
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's how I broke it down

897
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: to my kids. That's interesting, Um, I mean in real life,

898
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,439
Speaker 1: like because I remember first like this guy's so goddamn chill,

899
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: but you're when you were on the court, it was

900
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: like a different dude. Like You're like I'm almost like, yeah,

901
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: speaking to the mic, Matt, You're like so spoken, you chill,

902
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: And it's just it's just an interesting thing because the

903
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: persona and then the whole thing with Fisher and and

904
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: and obviously it's like this one thing that actually wasn't

905
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: even on a basketball play with the Kobe thing, it's

906
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: like that's your whole career. So it is what it is,

907
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I said, I told

908
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: my kids, and at first it was hard for me

909
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: because I'm just like, God, damn, these motherfucker's really don't

910
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: like like I haven't done nothing for they don't even

911
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: know me, not to like me. So I used to

912
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: bother me early on, But then when you were on

913
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: the court. Yeah, early on, I made my first like

914
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: five or six years in me Like what these motherfucker's

915
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 1: always boom me. I'm like, damn, they don't even know

916
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: me to boom me. Like, so I used to take

917
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: it personal, But then I'm thinking, like I'm always playing,

918
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: I'm on good teams, like these motherfucker's are boomed me

919
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: for a reason. Like if I wasn't doing ship, they

920
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't have nothing to say to me. You mean the

921
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: fact that no matter where the funk, I'm at there

922
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: on my ass. That means I'm doing something right. What

923
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: was the what was the apex of it? Like if

924
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: I said to you, like when you look back at

925
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 1: that time, what was like the team that the season

926
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: where you were like I'm the fucking villain, like or

927
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: what were the arenas that you went to. I learned

928
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: it early because I think it was our whole team.

929
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: Is that we believe team when it was me, Baron

930
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson. You know, so you gotta think about that team.

931
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: We need to do a Golden State Warrior at the

932
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: Golden State words that we believe team. So Baron was

933
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: a star but hadn't really found this place in the NBA,

934
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: so he ended up a Golden State. Jason Richardson had

935
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: been there, you know, a draft pick Stephen Jackson had

936
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: just got into a gun shootout, ran over by a car,

937
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: got up and let his whole clip go on somebody

938
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: in Indiana and then got traded to Golden State. Al

939
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: Harrington came, you know, a high school pick, solid there,

940
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: never really found his ways, came to Golden State. We

941
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: had a young monte Las fresh out of high school,

942
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like we had a crazy

943
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: and then we had me where I was at the place.

944
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: So you know, I was like I was going in

945
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: my fifth year, like fuck if basketball doesn't work. I

946
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: had like ten NFL teams that wanted me to try

947
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: ou because football was my first sport. So I was

948
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: gonna say, fun basketball, I'm about to go play in

949
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. So because I hadn't, I had bounced around,

950
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: and you know, in four years, I played on three

951
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: teams and didn't really get a real chance to play.

952
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: So all of us came together and informed that team

953
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: in Oakland of all places in the world where which

954
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: at the time was like top two or three murder

955
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: happened in the world. So but we're out here in

956
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: these streets though, Mike, We're in these clubs, we're drinking,

957
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: we're doing other ship. I can't say on this podcast,

958
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: but you can only imagine. But then we're out going

959
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: out there and kicking ass every night too, you know

960
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it was just like that's when

961
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: I knew, like, Okay, bad is not the worst thing,

962
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because we were bad with

963
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: an edge where we were cool. So it was just

964
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 1: like that's why I learned early on. And then when

965
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: it hit the head that the top of the all

966
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: time um the asshole now is is the Kobe ship

967
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: with the ball fake. And then it just to continue

968
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: even when you were still it's eight years later. It

969
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: was just the anniversary like last week or something, but

970
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: eight years later and I still even every every day

971
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: from then, someone said something about the fucking Kobe thing.

972
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: That's why Kobe didn't flinch, bitch, you would have flinched.

973
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: Shut the funk up, you know what I mean, Like,

974
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: shut the funk up about that ship. The ship is

975
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: almost ten years old. But it it just is what

976
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: it is, you know, I mean, it just adds to

977
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: the whatever funk you want to say about me. Um,

978
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: you played, let me, let me throw some names that

979
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: you just want your opinions and takes on on players

980
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: you played with coaches one of my favorite coaches to

981
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: watch because he seems so disgruntled. You played in Orlando

982
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: with my man Van Gundy. What was he liked? Great

983
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,720
Speaker 1: dude energy. He always used to get this white foam

984
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: in the corner of your mouth and makes you want

985
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: to lick the corner of your lips or rub your ship,

986
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like when the people get

987
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: the white But no, but I love staying man, Great

988
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: X and O's guy. Um, but just when it came

989
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: down to the stretch, Um, you know, we just he's

990
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: never been over you know, be able to get over

991
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 1: the hump. You know you heard some things from former players,

992
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: but uh, to me, Great X and I's guy and

993
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: I had a good time with Stan. One of the

994
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: things that I hear and I don't know fucking anything

995
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: what I hear I say from Twitter or no. I've

996
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: heard players talk about it, is he like old school,

997
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: like you're gonna run your ass off. The practice like

998
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: taped shoot arounds with kneepads, like there's no joke, like

999
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 1: unheard of, like pat Right, he came put the pat

1000
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: Riley era, so tough practic decision. You're gonna run, You're

1001
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna get better every day. So he wasn't.

1002
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: He didn't really give give a funk so much to

1003
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: me what I thought about your legs, you know now

1004
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: it's more legs and research. He need rest. And you know,

1005
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: because the season so long, Stan wasn't on that ship.

1006
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: Stands like we're gonna come in here and work hard

1007
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: for two and a half hours. And I respected at

1008
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: the time because I just didn't know no better. I

1009
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: was cool with it. Um. Also with that team Dwight Howard,

1010
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: what is Dwight Howard? Like? Like did he is? He

1011
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: a guy who never lived up to the expectations. Obviously, listen,

1012
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: if you have fucking back surgery, Uh, that's gonna sunk

1013
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: up anybody, especially when you're a highly athletic player. I

1014
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: mean take away, I mean Dwight was on pace to

1015
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: be great, you know what I mean. I think what

1016
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: held him back Obviously, first and foremost like you said,

1017
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: is is a back injury. I mean a back. A

1018
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: back injury to an athletic machine like him is gonna

1019
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: slow anybody down. Um him personally great dude, always had

1020
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: a smile, always had you know, joking, always having a

1021
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: good time. But the only knock I had on Dwight

1022
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: was he didn't know when to stop playing and get serious,

1023
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He was the star on

1024
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: our team, but still like not focused during shoot around,

1025
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and younger players that I

1026
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: was older, so I wasn't tripping. I would try to

1027
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: get him on track, but younger players are looking at

1028
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: the team start like, Okay, how are we gonna approach this?

1029
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: If our team starts acting this way, you know what

1030
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that kind of sets the mood. So it

1031
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: was something that you know, as a friend, because we

1032
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: became friends, I talked to I would talk to him

1033
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: about it and constantly remind him about like, you know

1034
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people are watching you, you know what

1035
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean, even in practice, so you have to you know,

1036
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: come prepared, come ready. Dwight was a superstar at the time,

1037
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: but not as far as being a leader. You know,

1038
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: usually there was kind of come hand in hand, like

1039
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show these guys tied. But Dwight was a superstar.

1040
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: But he definitely wasn't, you know, ready to be a

1041
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: leader at least when I played with him. Is hall

1042
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:46,359
Speaker 1: of fame? He could have been. Um, it's I mean,

1043
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: it's tough to say. He was amazing for a span

1044
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: he was. He was ridiculing monster. But did he ever

1045
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: get better than that? It's like he came in, he

1046
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: hit a fucking apex and then obviously the injury, and

1047
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 1: I know that's fun. I mean, that's a lot. I

1048
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 1: mean a back injury, like I said, a back injury surgery,

1049
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Some people don't, you know,

1050
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: don't move to the same way the rest of your life.

1051
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: He went back to playing, and he went back to

1052
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: plane early too on top of it, which was you

1053
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: know what it was, what it was. But it's hard

1054
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: to say, man Um, I liked to write a lot

1055
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: he when I played with him, he was a fucking monster. Um.

1056
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: The last time we talked a lot about Kobe, But

1057
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: talk to me about Phil Jackson like this is like,

1058
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: you know, when he came to New York. That's not

1059
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that ended the way Phil what the

1060
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: fund is up with? Phil Jackson? Phil is the man

1061
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: is literally the world's most interesting man. That's what I

1062
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: would call him. He's the world's most interesting man. Um

1063
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 1: one hand, he's an amazing innovator, creator, someone that sits

1064
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: back and allows you to be creative on the court,

1065
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, as long as it's within the triangle. UM

1066
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: great mental approach to the game. Um realized that the

1067
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: mind over the body is most important. But at the

1068
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: same time with you know, wouldn't kill you in practice.

1069
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: He wanted it out there for the game. He wouldn't

1070
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: do a lot of running. We would. I mean, it

1071
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: was more scrimmaging, you know what I mean. We would

1072
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: break down in section and and you know, go over

1073
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: our try and go obviously, and then we would scrimmage

1074
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: and get out. You know. He wasn't someone that wanted

1075
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: to kill you in practice, which was which was always

1076
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: good for the player's standpoint. So unfortunate only got filled

1077
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: for a year, you know what it means, But it

1078
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: was it was an amazing year because they had just

1079
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: won two titles when I came, and I was the

1080
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: year when I came after I came from Orlando when

1081
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: Kobe recruited me over and then I tore my meniscus

1082
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: that season two, so I was away from the team,

1083
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: but we were so they were we were going for

1084
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: a three P at the time, or excuse me, they

1085
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: were I was going for my first ring. I tore

1086
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: my meniscus heading towards maybe I want when they say

1087
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: maybe February or something like that, and never really got

1088
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: back healthy before and that's when Dallas swept us in

1089
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: Dallas won the championship that year. But from my standpoint

1090
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: with Phil in l A, it was it was amazing,

1091
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He knew how to press

1092
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: people's buttons to get the best out of him. He

1093
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: used to be the most amazing ship watching him and

1094
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: run our tests go at each other. What was that

1095
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: like him trying to get roun to motivated and he

1096
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: would say the run ship to run, and Wrong would

1097
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: get mad like I would think Rong was gonna suck

1098
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: him up or something. Or you know, Ron one time

1099
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: he talked about it Peel's feet like it was just

1100
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: it was such a crazy dynamic. But Phil bought the

1101
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: right focused Ron, you know what I mean, Like it's

1102
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: he knew what Buttons depressed. Like he pissed him off,

1103
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: but then he brought him back in and he got

1104
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: an amazing product out of it, you know what I mean.

1105
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: He worked with Kobe, you know, I mean, Kobe is Kobe,

1106
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They had an amazing dynamic.

1107
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's I only, Like I said, unfortunately we

1108
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 1: got to see all this for a year. But he

1109
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: had a had a maze. But with whoever was playing,

1110
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: he had his own separate relationship with each of those guys,

1111
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: and he talked to him different and they treated each

1112
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: other different and it worked. So he was conscious, like

1113
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: this is a guy, right, He knew what Buttons depressed

1114
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: to get the best out of you. And it became

1115
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: cool because when I when I hurt my knee, I

1116
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: was at home watching all the games and he and

1117
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: I kind of started talking and we were talking about

1118
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: like it got to the point where he understood because

1119
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: he didn't really know me from the dickhead he you know,

1120
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: heard about before I was a Laker, you know what

1121
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: I mean. But then I got hurt and we just

1122
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: started talking strategy and I would tell him what I've

1123
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: seen after the game, and I think he realized that

1124
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: I was really a student of the game. So we

1125
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: would I would be back and forth after a game

1126
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: talking strategy with Phil Jackson, sitting in my house in

1127
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 1: l a And I'm just there on the road somewhere.

1128
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm just like, this is fucking crazy. You You were

1129
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: like blown away. I mean, I'm talking strategy with one

1130
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: of the greatest coaches ever, Ron Ard Tests another guy.

1131
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: You you hang out with Ron Now, you're like this

1132
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: guy freaking soft spoken, he's laughing, he's so like mild mannered.

1133
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: How good was was remind people how good he was

1134
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: basketball player. He was a star before the ship on

1135
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, Like he could score the

1136
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: ball too. He was just he was someone that was

1137
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: just fucking crazy. Naturally strong, strong hands, great footweark great

1138
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: body position, great center of balance, and he was someone

1139
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: that was scary because if you were fortunate enough to

1140
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: get by him, and most of the time he took

1141
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: the ball from you when you got by him. He

1142
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: had this trick of reaching around you as soon as

1143
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: you got past him to steal steal that fucking ball.

1144
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: Like to me, he was him and Tony Allen, um

1145
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 1: my time, those are the guys I watched the most

1146
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: from a defensive standpoint, and um, try to mimic those

1147
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: guys because their defensive intensity and their their attention to detail.

1148
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: The way they went after Ship isn't crazy. But to

1149
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: talk about his character, he's just a completely different person

1150
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: off the court. Cool coolest ship off the court is

1151
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: defense is something. I think Defense is interesting it effort.

1152
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 1: Is defense really something you can be taught? Like, is

1153
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: there skill set? It's a mindset first and foremost. You

1154
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: gotta want to you know, you gotta be a dog

1155
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 1: to play defense. You know. I mean defense is not easy.

1156
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: Scoring not not The scoring is easy, but there's more

1157
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: reward for So if you work your ass off to

1158
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: be a score, you're gonna be on sports and you're

1159
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: gonna get a bunch of money. If you work your

1160
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: ass off on defense, you still may not get the accolades.

1161
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 1: So it's just like fun, Let me just work my

1162
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: ass off on offense so I can get a bunch

1163
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: of money and a bunch of points. So it takes

1164
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: a different kind of mindset I think to play defense, Um,

1165
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: you can definitely be taught technique and strategy and and

1166
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: tricks to the game. Defense is just like rebounding. It's

1167
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: a mindset. You gotta have to want that ball because

1168
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: you see seven footers averaging three or four rebounds, and

1169
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: then you'll see someone, you know, like Dennis Roman who

1170
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: was six nine average sixteen rebounds, seventeen rebounds. So it's

1171
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: a mindset and an interest, like I wanted to do

1172
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: this ship. Who who's in the NBA now that's left?

1173
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: That is the Matt Barnes. I think Ron is separate

1174
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 1: because Ron had a great offensive arsenal, the Tony Allen's,

1175
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: the Patrick Beverly's. Who's left? The dogs? Who are the

1176
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: young dogs? Like you know, Zach zach ran Off is

1177
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: still there, but he's a great olden Like who are

1178
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: these guys that are gonna be like the next the

1179
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: next crop of guys that you see Draymond obviously, I

1180
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: think he's the king of them, you know what I mean?

1181
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: I just saw a lot of myself and him, not

1182
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: only from a player, he was able to accomplish more

1183
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: and obviously a better, uh you know, NBA player than

1184
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 1: I was, but at the same time, the same mentality

1185
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: and attention to detail, and we just played a like um,

1186
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, you mentioned Tony Allen. He's on his way out,

1187
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: but he was one of those guys. I love Patrick,

1188
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: but I just like people that play hard. Man. Patrick

1189
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: Beverley plays hard. You may not like it and it's uncomfortable,

1190
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: so that's why people don't like it. But he's fucking

1191
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: playing har Like I want to see that instead of

1192
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: like the ol A defense where I'm you know, swipe

1193
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: at the ball and that you go in there and

1194
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: dunk it, like I want people that are just gonna work,

1195
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, but the NBA doesn't

1196
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: really it's not that kind of game no more. You know,

1197
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: it's more like it's first one. There's no young guys

1198
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: where you're like noticing like this guy, this guy has

1199
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: it and like it's just you're born on. I think

1200
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: it's a different Like I look at young guys now,

1201
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: like they just they got a lot of game. Like

1202
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma has a lot. I love to me, Kyle

1203
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: Kuzma is going to be a star. Kyle Kuzma is

1204
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: a monster. Julius Randall's a monster. Ball is going to

1205
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: be special. I love Tatum from Boston. He's super skilled, smooth,

1206
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: like a like a new version of Paul George to

1207
00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: me very talented. Uh Ben Simmons is a is amazing. Um.

1208
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: You know, so I watch you know that the kid

1209
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: in Utah, Mitchell, the kid in Dallas Smith. You mean,

1210
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 1: there's a lot of kids that really have a high

1211
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: basketball tep that are really talented that I enjoy watching.

1212
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: But it's not so much about being like their dogs

1213
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: in their own way. But it's not like how we

1214
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: used to be. Don't you think become come April, come

1215
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: May come championship time. You know you have to be

1216
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: you have to be you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,

1217
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean all the regular seasons, ship don't mean nothing.

1218
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean during the regular season, you want to stay healthy.

1219
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: You obviously want to win, but you want to build

1220
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: chemistry and stay healthy. You know, everyone's, oh my god,

1221
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: the Warriors lost sixteen games. You don't win no fucking

1222
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: championships right now. The Warriors won seventy two games and

1223
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: lost the championships. The regular season doesn't mean ship. It's

1224
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: about being healthy on the same page, having your chemistry

1225
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. So teams that have been there

1226
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: and done that, I guarantee every season Cleveland and Gold

1227
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: and say like oh, I mean, I mean, it's a

1228
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: blessing to play in the NBA. But like fun, let's

1229
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: get let's get to April, because we already know what

1230
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 1: it is. But does the style of basketball change, and

1231
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: how does it change? Come fucking crunch time come may

1232
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: come fucking you know, Western Conference finals, come quarterfinals, Like

1233
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: I think, each stage it intensifies. But to me, the

1234
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: best time, if you're a new fan to the NBA,

1235
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: the best time to watch the NBA at the beginning

1236
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: of the season and then Christmas is usually fun, and

1237
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: then the NBA is kind of boring until after All

1238
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: Star breaks. So all Star break is when people start

1239
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 1: picking it up. People are making run for position, people

1240
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: are trying to get into the playoff. So that's when

1241
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna see probably the most competitive part of the season.

1242
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: And then obviously each and if you're fortunate ough to

1243
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, each level, first round, second round, conference finals, finals,

1244
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: each level intensifies. You know, the mistakes are magnified on

1245
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: each higher you go. The bigger turnover is, the bigger

1246
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: technical foul is so it just intensifies, and you need

1247
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: people who have been there and done that to be

1248
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: able to explain that to your younger players, because going

1249
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: in there blindly you don't have a chance. All right,

1250
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: So here we are in March. Who are going to

1251
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,479
Speaker 1: be the two teams from the West. Who are gonna

1252
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: be the two teams from the east? Uh, that are

1253
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: gonna make it? You know obviously barring injuries. Clay just

1254
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: has this thumb thing, which to me is a big deal.

1255
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: The last time you, you know, I talked to you,

1256
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: talked about the importance of Clay, the intangibles of Clay.

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01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: He's like they talk about the Big Three, it's almost

1258
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: like Draymond K. D. Stephens, like, oh yeah, and Clay.

1259
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: It's you can never forget about Clay, I think right now.

1260
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: I mean they say two weeks, Um, a thumbs is tough,

1261
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: depending on what hand it's on. Is the honest shooting

1262
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: He'll be all right. I mean, going State have great trainers.

1263
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna be on him around the clock. He'll be ready.

1264
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: Um yeah. But to get back to your question, the

1265
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: two teams I love Houston. Houston is playing fucking amazing basketball,

1266
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: shooting the ball, having fun. I see him having fun.

1267
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: I talked to Chris paul A lot. I just tell

1268
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: him like, you're smiling. I love it. You look so

1269
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: happy over there. You know, I'm happy for him. Was

1270
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: he miserable? I wouldn't say miserable, because we had a

1271
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: blasted sometimes, but at the end he looked like he

1272
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: just wasn't happy no more, you know what I I mean,

1273
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, you know, I mean, we didn't. I

1274
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 1: try to talk about good things, but them not bad things.

1275
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: But I could just really see that he has that

1276
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: glimmer back in his eye. He's got a you know,

1277
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: a second leash on life in Houston because everyone thought

1278
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: him and James couldn't play together. But people don't realize

1279
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: how smart both those guys are. So if you're trying

1280
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: to tell I can get fucking Chris Paul to be

1281
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: my running mate, I'm gonna James adjusted his mindset. He's

1282
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: still doing what he does, but hedjusted his mindset, and

1283
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 1: then Chris justed his mindset. And now they're arguably what

1284
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: behind Clay and staff or right there, like it's an

1285
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: argument who has the best backcourting and it and it

1286
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: shows and wins. You know, then I'm happy for Trevor

1287
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,919
Speaker 1: Reaves over there. He's a brewing. He's he's my guy

1288
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: over there. So I see Houston and Golden State if

1289
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: everyone's healthy, I see Golden State winning it, just from

1290
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: the standpoint of we've been there and done that. But

1291
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like, oh my god if if Houston

1292
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: won it. Houston can shoot the shift out of the ball.

1293
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: They're playing better defense, you know. They picked up by

1294
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: Mute and they and they got Chris Now and then

1295
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: they got p J. Tucker. Trevor has always been a

1296
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: good defender, you know what I mean. They got the

1297
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: big tall what's the center's name, Capella Cappella. He's gonna

1298
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: be a rich man, you know, having two of the

1299
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: best decision makers in the game throwing. He he had

1300
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: that DeAndre Jordan effect, you know what I mean, Like

1301
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: DeAndre realizes how poor and Chris Paul was now because

1302
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: Cristal put that bitch where it needs to be so

1303
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: you could dunk it. Capella's feed off the same thing.

1304
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: Chris and James make these amazing bounced passes, Lobb behind

1305
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: the back passes, and all he has to do is

1306
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: dunk that motherfucker. So he's doing a great job there. So,

1307
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: like I said, I see going to State getting over

1308
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: the Houston hum only from a because talent wise, their

1309
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: their neck and neck. But I just Golden State has

1310
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: been there, their core has been there longer. They're going

1311
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: for their third title. Um, I get that. As to

1312
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 1: Golden State in the East, wait before we get these,

1313
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: I want you to give me inside information. I want

1314
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: I know you guys all fucking know each other. We

1315
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: trade in stocks right now. These guys waste time on

1316
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: TV putting these these so called sports experts. You're the expert.

1317
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: You're like, motherfucker, you don't know what it's like. They

1318
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: don't have a fucking clue nothing. That's why they pissed

1319
01:02:58,240 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: me off when they talk to it, like, bitch, you

1320
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: couldn't even how your shoes together and run on the court.

1321
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? You don't know shit? Go ahead,

1322
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: what's your question. You're the expert. I want you to

1323
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: tell me what the fuck it's going on in San

1324
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: Antonio with Kauai. I feel like this is going Something

1325
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: happened with I don't know if they fucking gave him

1326
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: They thought they were giving him a B twelve shot

1327
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: and they gave him a vitamin disha. Some fucking thing

1328
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: happened with Kawhi Leonard and San Antonio. And I don't

1329
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 1: know what it is. I don't know, but I smell

1330
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: something I don't, to be honest with you, the fact

1331
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 1: that because the expert, I know, I am the expert.

1332
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:36,919
Speaker 1: But to me, I don't know that, and I haven't

1333
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: thought that. I just think that honestly, Papa's competitive one

1334
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: that maybe the greatest coach and professional sports at all time.

1335
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: That's that's up for debate. But I think that they realized,

1336
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: like Houston and Golden State are gonna go regardless, So

1337
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: why risk Kauai. You know, he's the franchise player. So

1338
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: if you were into your healthy and we know we

1339
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: have a real reason, our shot to win it, why

1340
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: put our franchise back out there on the court now.

1341
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 1: Could he play? Probably? But I bet you like those

1342
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: quad injuries are tricky quads and calves are those tears

1343
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: and strains, and you don't let those hell, those are

1344
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: sucked up, you know what I mean. So to me,

1345
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: from a strategic standpoint, I think they're just realizing, Okay,

1346
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: we're still San Antonio, We're still going to compete, and

1347
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: you can still I mean, they're still one of the

1348
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: best teams. You know, you take their best player away,

1349
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: they're just missing all just last the other night, like

1350
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: Pop has those It's a well oiled machine. But I

1351
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: think at the same time, they also realized that that

1352
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: Kauai is the future and Houston. As much as I

1353
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: have respect for San Antonio and Oklahoma City and the

1354
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: rest of the West, it's Houston or Golden States to lose.

1355
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 1: So let me get home, let me get my franchise player,

1356
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: ercent back for next year. See what we can do

1357
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: in the offseason, and then let's make our pushy Alright, Fine,

1358
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: that's fine. Um the East is it gonna fucking slow down?

1359
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: With God damn Cleveland? We'll see. I mean, wait, wait,

1360
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: because you know what I how fucking happy I would

1361
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: be if they fucking didn't even make it to the finals.

1362
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 1: Do you know how fucking happy, really happy? I would

1363
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 1: be fucking happy. You'd be really happy didn't make it

1364
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: to the finals. Just that would be great. I don't

1365
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: care if you fucking seven games Eastern Conference finals, that

1366
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: would be even. And I don't not what I would

1367
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: do after that, because like I get so high off

1368
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: of that, Like last year, Game five, I was out

1369
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: of my fucking tree when you guys won. The Lebron

1370
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: effect on you. I'm very open about it, and I don't.

1371
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't hide it. It's like Tom Brady until proven otherwise,

1372
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 1: can this fucking guy be stopped Tom Brady, No, he's

1373
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 1: He's a machine Lebron Brady. Same machines there. God, I mean,

1374
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: God blessed them. The God blessed all of us, but

1375
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: God blessed those guys. So what's the East Toronto? Yeah,

1376
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: I love Toronto. I just don't. I don't. I don't

1377
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: trust them in the playoffs as much. I mean themar

1378
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: Is someone I know, Kyle. They have a great team,

1379
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: great coach case. I love it. I love that that.

1380
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: The city's fucking amazing, crowds nuts, the crowds outside amazing.

1381
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: There's something better to do in Toronto. Out there too.

1382
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: They're sucking outside during the game, tons of them. Don't

1383
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: you like to go to a man? I love it.

1384
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: It's that's rare. They don't see that anywhere else, you

1385
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean? I love it, but I just

1386
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: don't at the same time, just God, they have to.

1387
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: But the Cleveland Capitalis are Apollo Creed in their rocky Yeah,

1388
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I I wish I would love to see

1389
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 1: them get over the hump. I hope they can. Like

1390
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: I said, I got you know, personal friends on the team.

1391
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: But to me, my prediction of the East is is

1392
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland's to lose from the standpoint that they've been that.

1393
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 1: You just you have to have been there to understand,

1394
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And I only been there once,

1395
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: but I've been to Western or Eastern Conference finals and

1396
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: and several. You know, I'm battle tested. It's just different

1397
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: basketball when you get there, and if you haven't been there,

1398
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: you don't know what to expect. So that's why that's

1399
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: why I take away from you know, Toronto has never

1400
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: been there. Boston is the heavyweight champ of the East

1401
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 1: as soon as Lebron leaves because Boston has built their

1402
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: team in great coach, great city, great draft picks, great

1403
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: young talent. Haywood going down was a blessing in disguise

1404
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: this year because they let Jason Tatum become developed. You know,

1405
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: the brown kid really found came into his own. So

1406
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: you already know what you got in Hayward when he

1407
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: comes back. So now you know you've got two other

1408
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: road dogs, I mean, and they got and then they

1409
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: got I mean Kyrie Irving, Like, come on, man, So

1410
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: Kyrie is the only one that's been there from that standpoint,

1411
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: That's why I say it's hard for them to get

1412
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: over that hump when it comes down to the Eastern

1413
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: Conference Finals game step because Braun has been there and

1414
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: that whole Kevin Kevin has been there Jr. Has been there. Um,

1415
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: you can never underestimate that Lebron factor. Not what he

1416
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: does with the numbers, but his effect on that, Like,

1417
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you, motherfucker's let's go. I'm gonna

1418
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: show you how to do it. So that's why I

1419
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 1: see I still see another Golden State Cleveland Finals, and

1420
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: I see Golden State with him. Good. That's all I

1421
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: wanted to hear. All Right, football, I talked to Nate Robinson,

1422
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: talk to you, Okay, give it to me. Are you

1423
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 1: guys playing in this flag football league? What do you

1424
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: got left in the tank? I got a lot, man,

1425
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: I got a lot of excided. I just started working

1426
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: out again for that. It's um, it's a flag football

1427
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: tournament this summer where the winning winning team gets a

1428
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: million dollars with it. But it's not even so much.

1429
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: To me. It's not about the money. Just football is

1430
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: my first sport. Whoever grew up with me and knew

1431
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: me that. And I'm not one of those guys that

1432
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: likes to talk it because I respect each lane in

1433
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: each craft too much. But I've been told from former

1434
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks to high school football coaches, two scouts that

1435
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,839
Speaker 1: I could have played in the NFL. So I luckily

1436
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 1: I got fifteen years in the NBA and and that

1437
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: was my blessing. But there's not a day that went

1438
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: by like God, damn. Can I imagine? Because you know,

1439
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: I ran a four three nine and in high school,

1440
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, at six seven, you know what I mean?

1441
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: And then I can out jump anyone. So and then

1442
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: i'm I'm then I'm out running anybody, you know what

1443
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean. And then I could really catch and take

1444
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: a hit and deliver a hit. My dad played football,

1445
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: so I knew when you catch the ball, hit the

1446
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: defense before they hit you. Like I knew how to

1447
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: play football. I grew up playing tackle football, you know,

1448
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: So that was just always like, damn, what if I

1449
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: would have went that route, you know what I mean?

1450
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: So I always have that So now that I'm retired.

1451
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: I just turned thirty eight last week. Um, but me

1452
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: and Nate are gonna play in this flag football term. Man,

1453
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm so freaking excited for it. So you guys

1454
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: are not This is going down, going all the way down.

1455
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: And who's who's your third? Who's your fourth? I mean

1456
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: like and and and the fact that like, like I'm

1457
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: sort of putting it out there, like what do you

1458
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 1: want from me with this? Like? What can I do

1459
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 1: for you? Guys? You tell? I mean, I mean backup quarterback?

1460
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: What is your game? Like? I got nothing? Can be

1461
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: over there and sit on the side and just talk

1462
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: a lot of ships. I talk a lot of ship.

1463
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that, Okay, because because with you and Nate,

1464
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: like who's other guys on your Nate is the one

1465
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: that's in charge of all that he's getting you know,

1466
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: former NFL, CFL Arena college players, you know that's I

1467
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: didn't have time to get all into all that. I

1468
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: just said, Bro, I'm in and I'm not coming off

1469
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: the field unless you know something, unless I can't run.

1470
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: So I'm playing both ways, offense and defense. But I

1471
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: could really play football. So I'm just I'm super excited

1472
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: what's your favorite football team? Forty I've been in forty

1473
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: fam my whole life. You guys are picking up players

1474
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: left and right, is me g real? I hope so,

1475
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I hope so game a lot

1476
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: of money. You know, the six games was amazing. He

1477
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 1: captured the city. But at the same time, when they

1478
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 1: comparing with Caps numbers, the caps last six games were

1479
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: very similar and better in some areas. So you never know.

1480
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: Like I said, I mean, he was Niner fan. I

1481
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 1: hope it works. We needed to work. I still live

1482
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: in you know, I live in Berkeley as well as

1483
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 1: l A. So I'm still a definitely a Barrier native,

1484
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: so I want that. I'm happy my man, Richard Sherman

1485
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: just signed there. Um, you know, so San Francisco should

1486
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,719
Speaker 1: be a destination. Man. They got a great stadium, crowd

1487
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: is amazing, and I'm you know, I'm hoping we can

1488
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 1: put something back together and they're back up there to

1489
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: you know, at least respectability. This, the Kaepernick situation, will

1490
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,639
Speaker 1: so much be a part of two thousand, seventeen, two sixteen,

1491
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: the NBA. You know, you guys are so much more

1492
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: physically exposed, whether you're you know, I think like the

1493
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: first eight players on every team, you know who they are.

1494
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: You know the NFL players. I ran, I ran into

1495
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree. I didn't know who the funk he was,

1496
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 1: but if I had his uniform, mom and I would

1497
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 1: all the way. Do you ever see any like that?

1498
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: You guys have been so spoken, outspoken in the NBA,

1499
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 1: Lebron being the front runner and I break his balls

1500
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: about That's what needed to happen, though, for us to

1501
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: have a real voice. We needed him to speak up.

1502
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: And then Steph spoke up. But go ahead, you're outspoken,

1503
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: you're conscious. The Kaepernick thing, he's not playing football again never.

1504
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate because because he made a stand and stood

1505
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: up for the people. But at the same time, he's

1506
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: going to go down as a legend. He'll he'll be

1507
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: spoken with, you know, in years to come, with with

1508
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,919
Speaker 1: the Alis and the Abdul Jabbar's and the Jim Browns.

1509
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 1: And that's why I don't think people understand like he

1510
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: made history, you know what I mean. For himself from

1511
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: that standpoint, that sound to be proud of. But as

1512
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 1: a competitive athlete is sucked up because he could definitely

1513
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 1: still could play still could at you try. You can't

1514
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: tell me he can't be a backup somewhere. Well, with

1515
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: with with the with the ship show. I see some

1516
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: weekends and I'm a huge football fan. I'm not disrespecting

1517
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: anyone because I love the game, but there's some ship

1518
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: shows out there. From the quarterback position, you can't tell

1519
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: me Cap can't come out there and do his thing.

1520
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: But to me, from a business standpoint, as much as

1521
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: he can play, the locker room is your sanctuary, you

1522
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: know what it means. So as many guys that, hey,

1523
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: I funk with Cap, there could be a handful of

1524
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: guys in the locker room that don't funk with Caps.

1525
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 1: So from a GM standpoint or president standpoint, you don't

1526
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: want that circus coming in because when Cap comes to

1527
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: your locker room, it could becomes an instant circus. Then,

1528
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: not from his antics, but from the media standpoint, you

1529
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's gonna be highly publicized every day,

1530
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: every move the locker room is going to be filled

1531
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: with media, you know what I mean. So it's just

1532
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: that you don't want to disrupt that flow in chemistry

1533
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: of your team in the locker room, and that, like

1534
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 1: I said, that's not caps personality, it's just the exposure

1535
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: he has with him now. So from a GM standpoint,

1536
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of a lot, you know, some

1537
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:42,639
Speaker 1: of them are full of ship line of themselves saying

1538
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: he can't play. But the ones that are real, like

1539
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: the ones that are real, like this kid can still play.

1540
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: I think the piece that keeps Cap out is the

1541
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: media circus that will come with Cap, especially if he's

1542
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: not going to be a starter. So now you want

1543
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: a media circus on my second or third quarterback that

1544
01:12:58,200 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the outcome every week and

1545
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: is gonna You're gonna lose focus and some guys are

1546
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: gonna get tired of it, Like I said, as many

1547
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: guys that might funk with them in the locker room

1548
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: and love him. Some guys gonna be like what the

1549
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: funk man? And a lot everybody wants to sell T

1550
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: shirt moment. So you already know what it is. It's

1551
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: it's it's it's strictly it's a business standpoint, Uh you know,

1552
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: chemistry thing. I think because whoever says he can't play

1553
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL still I mean it's I mean, back up,

1554
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: last year, they had fucking people's cousins and nephews backup court.

1555
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: I mean quarterback you need you now, you need three

1556
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that could play. Yeah. The boys out there getting

1557
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: hit too. Yeah. So I mean it's it's we all know.

1558
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: I mean people football purists and fans of the game.

1559
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 1: I know that, you know, for him taking a stance,

1560
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: it cost him his career, but he'll go down in

1561
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 1: history as as a as an iconic sports legend. Maddie

1562
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: Barnes Iron Wrappors Stereo podcast part do that's French if

1563
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: you don't speak French for to get your game up?

1564
01:13:54,640 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 1: Um soon to be a producer executive producer in show businesses,

1565
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 1: I want to learn how to direct to let's yeah,

1566
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,240
Speaker 1: I want to learn how to do it all. Yeah,

1567
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,240
Speaker 1: that that's you know. I just like to me, I'm

1568
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 1: not someone that comes in and thinks I know everything

1569
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: like I know everybody. So I surround myself with the

1570
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 1: best people and shadow them and they mentor me and

1571
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: I learned from them. So that's why I want to

1572
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 1: You know, when I say I want to accomplish something

1573
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: or do something, I surround myself with the best people

1574
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: in the game to help me get there. Let's fucking go.

1575
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: Come on, Mike, you already put me on Wood and

1576
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: me and Wood are making you know, we're gonna make

1577
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 1: some history. So you're definitely you're my You're my white half,

1578
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 1: You're my brother, You're my white brothers. There's got to

1579
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: be some sort of corrupt cop fucking sucker, you know,

1580
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: like especially would like would Harris like in the scene,

1581
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: They'll be like, cut, I'm fucking giving extra. You know

1582
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 1: you can definitely, I mean, I mean that here we

1583
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: Knewton Movies got you written all over with the correct

1584
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: you can you can channel that that young Remy. You know,

1585
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: you know you got a forty or forty something year

1586
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: old Remy. That's what you could be. And yeah we could.

1587
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 1: We definitely problem got something for you. Mike, all right,

1588
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: that boy talking all of famer Iconic appreciate you rock

1589
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: with me again, man, no, man, I'll come back whenever. Man,

1590
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: I like shooting ship with you. Let's go all right,

1591
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: four episode, Matt motherfucking Barnes. I appreciate you taking the

1592
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: time to rock with the best um. Listen. Later on

1593
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: in the week, me and Gene Moody are gonna do

1594
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: the long haul. Okay, We're gonna do a long ass

1595
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: four hundred and first episode. We're gonna get the young

1596
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: shooter on the episode. We're bringing in the big guns,

1597
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: UM six Funks of the Week, and so much more.

1598
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 1: I want to thank Maddie Barnes G. Moody. Last name

1599
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: rhymes with duty. Miles Jordan's take us out of here

1600
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 1: with something funky. Take us out of here with a

1601
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 1: smacker like something like like like smack, fire out your

1602
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: ass type of ship ion wrap for stereo podcast. We came,

1603
01:15:54,000 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: we saw, we conquered. Let's go u u u u

1604
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: u u u u u m h