WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Twilight Crooks

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<v Speaker 3>On August twenty eighth, two thousand and one, fifteen year

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<v Speaker 3>old jesse Marie Twilight Song Crooks, who everyone knew was Twilight,

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<v Speaker 3>was hanging out at her home on Larman Mill Road

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<v Speaker 3>in Plano, Kentucky, when she got a phone call. The

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<v Speaker 3>phone call came in at ten point fifty two pm

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<v Speaker 3>from a phone booth at the Plano County Store, which

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<v Speaker 3>was a convenience store less than a mile away from

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<v Speaker 3>her home in that small town. The Plano Country Store

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of the center of Twilight's social circuit. A

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<v Speaker 3>friend of hers later told police Twilight would often walk

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<v Speaker 3>by there to buy cigarettes or hang out, and would

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<v Speaker 3>get people to drop her off and pick her up there,

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<v Speaker 3>so receiving a call from that phone booth would not

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<v Speaker 3>have been out of the ordinary for her. But Twilight crooks,

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<v Speaker 3>like many teenagers, had secrets, and like many of us

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<v Speaker 3>back in the day, sometimes she lived a double life

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<v Speaker 3>after hours, a few minutes after getting that call, at

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<v Speaker 3>around eleven PM, Twilight snuck out of her house. Now

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<v Speaker 3>according to the police report, when she left home, she

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<v Speaker 3>was wearing pajama bottoms and a T shirt, and she

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<v Speaker 3>was barefoot. Her friends later said that wasn't super unusual.

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<v Speaker 3>It would make sense if she was planning on hanging

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<v Speaker 3>out for a while and then coming back home.

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<v Speaker 1>On not being out for long.

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<v Speaker 3>Investigators have said they believe Twilight went out to meet

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<v Speaker 3>someone she knew. Her friends told police when she left

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<v Speaker 3>the house barefoot, a lot of the time, she would

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<v Speaker 3>have someone pick her up. They would ride around, and

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<v Speaker 3>then whoever picked her up would drop her back home.

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<v Speaker 3>But her family never found out who she was planning

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<v Speaker 3>to meet that night because she was never seen alive again.

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<v Speaker 3>is Helen Gone Murder Line. The next morning, Twilight's father,

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby and his wife Linda, Twilight's stepmother, realized that Twilight

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<v Speaker 3>was not in her bed. Anne had not come home

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<v Speaker 3>the night before. They called the Warren County Sheriff's office

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<v Speaker 3>to report her missing the next morning, August twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 3>at six oh five am. At the time, the police

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<v Speaker 3>report noted Twilight had run away in the past. We're

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<v Speaker 3>trying to get more information about exactly what was going

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<v Speaker 3>on in Twilight's life that year. Twilight Crooks was born

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<v Speaker 3>on October twenty second, nineteen eighty five, in Santa Fe County,

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<v Speaker 3>New Mexico. Her mother was Native American, part of the

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<v Speaker 3>Arapaho tribe. She was also part Cherokee on her father's side.

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<v Speaker 3>Twilight lived with her dad and stepmom, but apparently regularly

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<v Speaker 3>visited her mother and the rest of the tribe, and

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<v Speaker 3>was excited to share what she had learned about their

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<v Speaker 3>culture with her friends. In Kentucky, Twilight was, according to Bobby,

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<v Speaker 3>doing well at school. Her family and friends all described

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<v Speaker 3>her as very bright. She was a sophomore at Greenwood

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<v Speaker 3>High School in Bowling Green and she was very accomplished.

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Crooks later told journalists Twilight got straight a's and

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<v Speaker 3>was very popular in her class, and that she had

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<v Speaker 3>dreams of going to Harvard. But Twilight had reportedly run

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<v Speaker 3>away several times before. According to the police report, Twilight

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<v Speaker 3>was considered a habitual runaway. According to the missing Persons report,

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<v Speaker 3>on August twenty eighth, the days she disappeared, Twilight called

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<v Speaker 3>her father and asked if she could have dinner with

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<v Speaker 3>a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Her dad said that was fine.

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<v Speaker 3>After that, she went to that friend's house had dinner

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<v Speaker 3>and was home by around seven pm. Linda and Bobby

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<v Speaker 3>told police they went to bed at around ten pm

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<v Speaker 3>after they said Twilight had done her homework, and they

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<v Speaker 3>told police that when they went to bed, Twilight was

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<v Speaker 3>taking a shower. After she got out of the shower,

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<v Speaker 3>she got that late night call at ten fifty two pm,

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<v Speaker 3>and a few minutes after that, without her parents knowing,

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<v Speaker 3>left the house. Twilight's friend talked to us about the case.

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<v Speaker 3>We asked her how she met Twilight.

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<v Speaker 4>Me and Twilight we met in elementary school. We went

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<v Speaker 4>to Cumberland Trace Elementary. I remember she was just so

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<v Speaker 4>sweet and kind, and I remember her grandmother would come

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<v Speaker 4>and eat lunch with her sometimes at school, and like

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<v Speaker 4>I was always intrigued by her Native American roots and

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like that. And she used to make bracelets for

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<v Speaker 4>everybody with seeds and stuff. We were very close friends

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<v Speaker 4>all the way up until she was killed. We were

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<v Speaker 4>teenagers and we experimented and weren't always making the safest choices.

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<v Speaker 4>I just remember that she was very trusting, and she

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<v Speaker 4>trusted a lot of people, and that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>what cost her her life. I believe I always felt

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<v Speaker 4>like it was somebody that we knew that we went

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<v Speaker 4>to school with, or maybe somebody that you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>knew from our town, because where her body was found

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<v Speaker 4>was so close to her house. And she was a

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<v Speaker 4>good kid. I mean, she had good grades, She had

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<v Speaker 4>big dreams and a bright future. She was just a

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<v Speaker 4>really sweet girl. And she was always smiling and always laughing.

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<v Speaker 4>She had the biggest smile, and it was light of

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<v Speaker 4>a room. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Twilight had a brother who was two years older. Linda

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<v Speaker 3>told detectives they had reached out to Twilight's brother, but

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<v Speaker 3>that he had not heard from her and had no

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<v Speaker 3>idea where she was. They also called around to her

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<v Speaker 3>friend's houses, but no one had seen her at first

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<v Speaker 3>because she had stuck out and left home in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>Detectives treated the case like a run away, but when

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't come home, police from the Warren County Sheriff's Office,

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<v Speaker 3>who led the investigation, as well as other agencies including

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<v Speaker 3>the Bowling Green Police Department and eventually the FBI, scoured

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<v Speaker 3>the area for her, along with her family and the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the community. Her family pasted missing posters all

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<v Speaker 3>over town looking for Twilight five foot five, one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>pounds with brown hair and brown eyes, wearing braces. On

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<v Speaker 3>September tenth, two thousand and one, at around four pm,

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<v Speaker 3>nearly two weeks after Twilight disappeared, a dog walker was

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<v Speaker 3>in the woods near Matlock Old Union Road in Plano,

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<v Speaker 3>about ten miles from Bowling Green. This is a very

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<v Speaker 3>remote area that has a lot of trees and other

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<v Speaker 3>types of vegetation around. Today it's a soybean field. The

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<v Speaker 3>dog walker found skeletal remains near a dried up pond

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<v Speaker 3>that dental records later confirmed were Twilight Crooks. Her body

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<v Speaker 3>was in pieces. On September tenth, two thousand and one,

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<v Speaker 3>Twilight Crooks's body was found. The next day was September eleventh,

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one, the day that terrorists attacked the

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<v Speaker 3>World Trade Center in New York City and the Pentagon

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<v Speaker 3>in Washington, d C. And suddenly the entire country was

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<v Speaker 3>focused on the terrorists attacking the United States. The murder

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<v Speaker 3>of a fifteen year old young woman of Native American

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<v Speaker 3>descent seemed to be quickly forgotten, although back in Kentucky

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<v Speaker 3>police were conducting their investigation, but it seemed like there

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<v Speaker 3>were a lot of missing pieces. Law enforcement tried to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out who had called Twilight minutes before she left

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<v Speaker 3>her house. They checked and discovered that the caller ID

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<v Speaker 3>showed the call came in from the Plano Country Stoor's

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<v Speaker 3>phone booth. But back then there were no surveillance cameras

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<v Speaker 3>at the store. It was a very different environment in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one than it is today. There were

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<v Speaker 3>no ring doorbells or cell phone cameras, no surveillance video

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<v Speaker 3>outside that phone booth. The Independent newspaper in the UK

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<v Speaker 3>did an article about Twilight's case in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 3>They interviewed Warren County Sheriff Bratt Hightower. According to the article,

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<v Speaker 3>Sheriff high Tower told the journalists quote, there is no

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<v Speaker 3>way of telling who placed the phone call to her

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<v Speaker 3>at the payphone that night end quote. Police were tight

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<v Speaker 3>lipped about the investigation. They did not even release a

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<v Speaker 3>cause of death, but rumors in town were already flying,

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<v Speaker 3>and when police talked to students at Twilight's high school,

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<v Speaker 3>several teens told police that there was a rumor going

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<v Speaker 3>around that Twilight had died of a methamphetamine overdose and

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<v Speaker 3>that the people who were with her panicked and hid

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<v Speaker 3>the body and Twilight's friend said police did not interview

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of Twilight's friends, including herself.

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<v Speaker 4>It's hard because this has happened twenty four years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just feel like there wasn't much of a

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<v Speaker 4>follow up or anything like that with her friends. They

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<v Speaker 4>didn't give her story the attention that it deserved, and

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<v Speaker 4>like they never came to school, never questioned any of

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<v Speaker 4>us about what happened, or if we knew or or

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<v Speaker 4>hung out or they never ever came to the school

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<v Speaker 4>to interview anybody. They just made one announcement when they

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<v Speaker 4>had found her on the intercom that morning, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, of course nine to eleven happened in the

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<v Speaker 4>following day, which completely made her story just disappear. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember seeing anything else about it on the

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<v Speaker 4>news after nine to eleven. Everything was just focused on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they mentioned her name for like probably

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of years. I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, though the case is still open.

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<v Speaker 3>We were able to access some information via a Foyer request,

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<v Speaker 3>but it seems like everything is redacted.

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<v Speaker 1>On some pages. There are more black boxes than there

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<v Speaker 1>are regular text.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna have to do some serious sleuthing to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out who these people are and how they were

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<v Speaker 3>connected to Twilight. We got the autopsy report, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>redacted too, so we don't know the cause of death.

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<v Speaker 3>The toxicology report is also blacked out, so we don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if Twilight had drugs in her system or not.

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<v Speaker 3>But the incident report refers to a weapon being used

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<v Speaker 3>and it lists the weapon as a knife. That, plus

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that the police were very clearly treating and

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<v Speaker 3>labeling this as a murder investigation, would appear to point

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<v Speaker 3>away from the theory that this was an overdose or

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<v Speaker 3>something that could have been accidental. There were also rumors

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<v Speaker 3>flying around that Twilight had been decapitated. Police also had

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<v Speaker 3>some issues with the physical evidence. After nearly two weeks

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<v Speaker 3>in the Kentucky heat, Twilight's body had been skeletonized. Crime

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<v Speaker 3>scene photos that show part of Twilight's remains show that

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<v Speaker 3>her skull was lying next to the lower part of

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<v Speaker 3>her body, her spine and legs, but we can't tell

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<v Speaker 3>from these photos whether her head was removed by a

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<v Speaker 3>human or whether animals detached her skull. We also aren't

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<v Speaker 3>able to see her torso in these photos. It's been

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<v Speaker 3>reported that her body was partly covered with twigs and branches,

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<v Speaker 3>like her killer was trying to cover up the body,

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe didn't do a very good job or didn't finish.

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<v Speaker 3>When police processed the scene, they did find some physical evidence.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the items and evidence was a yellow and

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<v Speaker 3>white drinking straw, but no fingerprints were found on that straw.

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<v Speaker 3>Since they hit a dead end with the phone booth,

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<v Speaker 3>police were trying to figure out who Twilight was meeting

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<v Speaker 3>that night by delve into her personal life, and like

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<v Speaker 3>many teenagers, Twilight's love life was complicated. Twilight had been

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<v Speaker 3>dating someone a boyfriend, but they had recently broken up.

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<v Speaker 3>Police talked to him and he said he hadn't talked

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<v Speaker 3>to Twilight in a while. However, another friend of hers

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<v Speaker 3>told police she had seen Twilight standing outside the Plano

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<v Speaker 3>store arguing with the ex boyfriend. The friend could not

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<v Speaker 3>remember the exact date when she witnessed that argument. The

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<v Speaker 3>friend's name and the ex boyfriend's name are both redacted.

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<v Speaker 3>But there was another guy whom Twilight was talking to,

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<v Speaker 3>someone who friends said she met on the internet and

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<v Speaker 3>had been talking to regularly before she disappeared. This guy

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<v Speaker 3>was supposedly in Cincinnati, Ohio. Now police wanted to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out who this guy was and to find him. Could

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<v Speaker 3>he have been the person Twilight was meeting that night.

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<v Speaker 3>Twilight was active in church. She had recently taken a

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<v Speaker 3>trip with Hillville Heights Church to Cincinnati July. One of

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<v Speaker 3>Twilight's friends from her church group told police that during

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<v Speaker 3>this trip, Twilight told her she had met a guy

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<v Speaker 3>off the internet and she was supposed to be meeting

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<v Speaker 3>him in person at King's Island. The last day of

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<v Speaker 3>that church trip, which was July seventeenth, Twilight stayed in

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<v Speaker 3>a Hampton Inn hotel room with a chaperone and two

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<v Speaker 3>other girls. The police talked to the chaperone, her name

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<v Speaker 3>was Terry. Terry told them that Twilight was talking to

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<v Speaker 3>the same guy the one she had met in Cincinnati

0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:16.960
<v Speaker 3>for several hours on the phone on one of the

0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.600
<v Speaker 3>nights they were there. She said she got concerned Twilight

0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:25.040
<v Speaker 3>might try to sneak out. Terry, the chaperone said, Twilight

0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:28.120
<v Speaker 3>told her she had been sexually active with eight different guys,

0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.480
<v Speaker 3>that she was on the pill, and that her dad

0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.200
<v Speaker 3>was too strict on her. She also said that her

0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.920
<v Speaker 3>stepmom was always telling her what to do. Twilight told

0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.440
<v Speaker 3>the chaperone she had met the guy the summer before

0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:42.840
<v Speaker 3>when she was with her mom in Clarksville, Tennessee, and

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<v Speaker 3>that since that time, in addition to talking on the phone,

0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.360
<v Speaker 3>they had talked on the internet. Terry said that Twilight

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<v Speaker 3>started talking to the guy on the phone at around

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<v Speaker 3>eleven thirty pm and they talked for two to three hours.

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<v Speaker 3>The chaperone said she was worried about Twilight sneaking out

0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:03.080
<v Speaker 3>because she said she overheard part of the conversation and

0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Twilight was talking about meeting this guy later on. Terry

0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.960
<v Speaker 3>told police that after that night, she told the church

0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.800
<v Speaker 3>staff she didn't want to be responsible for Twilight anymore

0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.640
<v Speaker 3>because she was afraid of what she might get involved in.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the detectives on the case, Detective Davis, contacted

0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.240
<v Speaker 3>the Cincinnati Police. He asked them to send an officer

0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.080
<v Speaker 3>to the residence of the person whom Twilight had been

0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:30.360
<v Speaker 3>talking to. The Police in Cincinnati did locate the guy

0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.400
<v Speaker 3>that she had been talking to online, but they found

0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:37.280
<v Speaker 3>no trace of Twilight at his residence, and the guy

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<v Speaker 3>said he had not seen her and had no idea

0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:44.600
<v Speaker 3>where she was. This seemed to be another dead end,

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<v Speaker 3>so with the internet love interest crossed off, Detectives back

0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:53.520
<v Speaker 3>in Kentucky began looking closer to home. This included focusing

0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.720
<v Speaker 3>on the people who last saw Twilight, her dad and stepmother.

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<v Speaker 3>In January of two thousand and two, Twilight's stepmother, Linda,

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<v Speaker 3>contacted police. According to information contained in the autopsy report,

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<v Speaker 3>she said she was upset about the amount of time

0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.160
<v Speaker 3>the investigation was taking. She also said the family wanted

0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:27.480
<v Speaker 3>to know more details about how Twilight died, but police

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<v Speaker 3>declined to give the family any information about cause of

0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:34.440
<v Speaker 3>death because, as indicated in these documents, they believe this

0:18:34.520 --> 0:18:38.760
<v Speaker 3>might harm the investigation. They asked Linda Crooks to take

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<v Speaker 3>a polygraph test, which she agreed to do, according to police,

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<v Speaker 3>but then when they called her to set up a

0:18:44.360 --> 0:18:47.360
<v Speaker 3>time to come in and take it, Linda did not

0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:51.880
<v Speaker 3>call back. At some point, according to police documents, they

0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:56.080
<v Speaker 3>did tell Linda Crooks how Twilight was killed. They asked

0:18:56.160 --> 0:18:59.280
<v Speaker 3>both Bob and Linda to take polygraph tests, but in

0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 3>the end, both of them refused. On September twenty fifth,

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one, officers searched Bob and Linda's residents

0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:11.000
<v Speaker 3>and vehicles. They took a number of items from the

0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:14.080
<v Speaker 3>home including a Dell computer, the one that Twilight was

0:19:14.160 --> 0:19:17.400
<v Speaker 3>using to email from. They also filed court orders to

0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.240
<v Speaker 3>get her email communications, but they found nothing of even

0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:25.160
<v Speaker 3>in cherry value in those emails. They began looking into

0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:29.400
<v Speaker 3>Twilight's local romantic entanglements, and they learned that recently she

0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:32.880
<v Speaker 3>had a boyfriend, though they had broken up sometime before

0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:37.920
<v Speaker 3>she disappeared. After talking to Twilight's friend, who, as we said,

0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.120
<v Speaker 3>saw Twilight arguing with the ex boyfriend late at night

0:19:41.120 --> 0:19:43.320
<v Speaker 3>at the Plano store, police went to talk to the

0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.280
<v Speaker 3>ex boy They asked him to take a polygraph test.

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<v Speaker 3>He said no and referred them to his lawyer. So

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<v Speaker 3>it seems like that avenue of investigation was pretty much

0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:58.600
<v Speaker 3>shut down after that. Police were also exploring other potential

0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:02.640
<v Speaker 3>suspects near the area where Twilight's body was found. Police

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.680
<v Speaker 3>talked to people who lived near that area. They told

0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.160
<v Speaker 3>law enforcement about another guy described as a local boy.

0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.400
<v Speaker 3>They said this local boy drove up and down the

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.360
<v Speaker 3>road where Twilight's body was found on a regular basis.

0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Now this was before the murder, but they said after

0:20:19.040 --> 0:20:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Twilight's murder, after her body was found, this guy disappeared

0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:27.320
<v Speaker 3>and had not been back since. Police apparently tried to

0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.160
<v Speaker 3>find this person, but he had left the area and

0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:36.920
<v Speaker 3>quit school. As the days and weeks went by, police

0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:41.640
<v Speaker 3>questioned several people, but they had no official suspects and

0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:43.720
<v Speaker 3>made no arrests.

0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Seemed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>A flurry of activity early on in the investigation in

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one, and then a little bit in

0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:52.480
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three, and after that. A couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years later, items from the crime scene were sent in

0:20:56.280 --> 0:21:00.800
<v Speaker 3>for testing, but to this day this case is still

0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:05.280
<v Speaker 3>an open investigation. A podcast listener did a Foyer request

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<v Speaker 3>and did receive part of the case file. Again, parts

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 3>of it have been heavily redacted. Even though there were

0:21:12.040 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 3>a lot of blacked out areas, we were able to

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<v Speaker 3>cross reference addresses with names, and in some cases previous

0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:22.640
<v Speaker 3>interviews are mentions of people, and we were able to

0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 3>get some clues. Another natural question is how long was

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Twilight out in those woods? Could she have left home

0:21:30.600 --> 0:21:35.280
<v Speaker 3>voluntarily or been kidnapped and held somewhere and killed later.

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:40.440
<v Speaker 3>The autopsy report estimated Twilight's time of death as sometime

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<v Speaker 3>around two or three am on August twenty ninth, which

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<v Speaker 3>which would mean that the evidence points to her being

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<v Speaker 3>murdered shortly after she left home, So the crucial window

0:21:50.760 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 3>of time remains between eleven PM when Twilight left her

0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:58.000
<v Speaker 3>house and early the next morning, August twenty eighth into

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<v Speaker 3>the early morning hours of August twenty ninth, two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and one. One of the bigger questions surrounding this case

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:08.360
<v Speaker 3>has been what was Twilight doing on the night she

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.000
<v Speaker 3>walked out of her house after she had dinner with

0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:14.120
<v Speaker 3>her friend. Her parents said she came home and that

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 3>she was there until ten pm to their knowledge, but

0:22:17.920 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 3>she may have made a stop prior to or after that,

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:25.560
<v Speaker 3>because we've discovered. Police interviewed someone on September nineteenth, two

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<v Speaker 3>thousand and one. This person's name is also redacted, but

0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:32.280
<v Speaker 3>they told police they saw Twilight at around nine to

0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 3>fifteen pm at the Plano store and that at that

0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 3>time she was wearing her pajamas, a white T shirt,

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:43.000
<v Speaker 3>and checkered bottoms. This person told police that Twilight had

0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.840
<v Speaker 3>told him was going home and going to bed. The

0:22:45.880 --> 0:22:48.640
<v Speaker 3>guy added that Twilight was a good girl who loved

0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 3>life and had no enemies. Twilight often hung out at

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:56.920
<v Speaker 3>the Plano store. She sometimes would stop there multiple times

0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.680
<v Speaker 3>per day. She smoked and it was where she would

0:22:59.680 --> 0:23:04.560
<v Speaker 3>buy cigarettes. Twilight's friend said that to her knowledge, Twilight

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 3>had never actually run away from home, but she admitted

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 3>that back then, Twilight, like a lot of teens, had

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:13.400
<v Speaker 3>a wild streak and a habit of sneaking out.

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 4>I remember she got her tongue pierced and I had

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 4>mine done, and a few other people did. And I

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 4>remember one day at school she was crying and I said,

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 4>what's wrong, and she said her dad made her take

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:27.120
<v Speaker 4>her tongue piercing out because she got caught sneaking out

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.320
<v Speaker 4>of her window, and so she was grounded. We were

0:23:31.360 --> 0:23:34.680
<v Speaker 4>just young and rebellious and fishing boundaries and then experimenting

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.960
<v Speaker 4>with things that we probably shouldn't have been, not making

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:42.280
<v Speaker 4>the safest choices. And I believe she snuck out that

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.880
<v Speaker 4>night to use drugs, but that doesn't change like who

0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 4>she was. You know, we all were kind of wild

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.400
<v Speaker 4>at that age. I mean, we all smoked weed, and

0:23:51.440 --> 0:23:57.240
<v Speaker 4>we were experimenting like ecstasy and myths and cocaine. My

0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 4>class in two thousand and three when we graduated, I

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.880
<v Speaker 4>think we had fourteen of our classmates that were dead

0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:07.360
<v Speaker 4>by the time we graduated. It was like our class

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 4>was just cursed or something. I felt like, you know,

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 4>because there was people that died of overdoses, that they

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:17.160
<v Speaker 4>were people that died in correct from being intoxicated, you know,

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:21.320
<v Speaker 4>and then Twilight was murdered, and you know, there was suicides,

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 4>and you know, it's just it seemed like our our

0:24:25.120 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 4>class was just like, I don't know, we just we

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:31.680
<v Speaker 4>were all wild back then.

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<v Speaker 3>Bobby Crooks said in twenty eleven that he preferred to

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.760
<v Speaker 3>remember Twilight as she had been in life. Same quote.

0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 3>I have a beautiful daughter, and a certain part of

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 3>me wants to keep that image. I'll eventually have to know,

0:24:47.120 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 3>but it hasn't bothered me for the last ten years

0:24:49.520 --> 0:24:52.280
<v Speaker 3>to not know. I've got this image of her growing up,

0:24:52.360 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 3>what she looked like, and how she acts.

0:24:54.680 --> 0:25:00.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what we hold on too. I can completely understand.

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Why he feels that way, but as an investigator, in

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 3>my opinion, the key to solving this case is figuring

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 3>out what Twilight did after hours, figuring out the things

0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 3>that she didn't tell her parents. I wonder could she

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 3>have left home, then come back home and gone out again,

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 3>because there's something else in the crime scene photos that

0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 3>in my opinion makes that a possibility. When she was

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 3>found in the woods, Twilight was wearing jeans, not pajama bottoms,

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:33.840
<v Speaker 3>So if she left the house barefoot, how did she

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 3>end up wearing jeans and a completely different set of clothes.

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:45.720
<v Speaker 3>In two thousand and six, police released more information about

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 3>the clothes Twilight was wearing when her remains were found.

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 3>She was wearing a blue Edmondson County High School jersey

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 3>with the number ten on the back. This was a

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:58.880
<v Speaker 3>high school that was twenty one miles away from Bowling Green,

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 3>where Twilight went to school. Her friends and family didn't

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 3>recognize the jersey and said, to their knowledge, she did

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 3>not know anyone from Edmondson County High School. So one

0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:13.440
<v Speaker 3>theory is that Twilight snuck out to meet up with

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.640
<v Speaker 3>her killer and that her killer gave her the jacket.

0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Police did find hair at the crime scene. In early

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:24.360
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three, detectives contacted Twilight's biological mother to

0:26:24.360 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 3>get hair samples from her. They had hairs from the

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.880
<v Speaker 3>crime scene, which they were able to confirm were not

0:26:30.120 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 3>a match to Twilight. Police also spoke to someone else,

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 3>a friend of Twilight's, but the friend's mother told the

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.240
<v Speaker 3>young man to go into the house and not to

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 3>talk to law enforcement. They requested hair samples from this

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:46.360
<v Speaker 3>young man, but his mother told police if they wanted

0:26:46.360 --> 0:26:48.640
<v Speaker 3>to talk to him to get in contact with their attorney.

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:53.120
<v Speaker 3>So this person's hairs were never tested. There are a

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 3>lot of dead ends like this in the case file,

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 3>and that's part of what we're going to be exploring

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 3>in Part two next week. We are going to go

0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.560
<v Speaker 3>through this case file and we're going to find out

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 3>who some of these redacted people were and try to

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 3>see if we can nail down where Twilight Crooks was

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 3>on the night she was murdered. There has not been

0:27:14.120 --> 0:27:17.360
<v Speaker 3>a lot of media attention on this case. Some commenters

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 3>online have said they think that's because Twilight was Native American.

0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 3>There have been a lot of stories about the epidemic

0:27:24.120 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 3>of missing and murdered Indigenous women. According to data provided

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.880
<v Speaker 3>by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, the FBI

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 3>reported five two hundred and three missing Indigenous girls and

0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 3>women in twenty twenty one. According to this report, which

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 3>was quoted in The Independent newspaper, this is a race

0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>equal to more than two and a half times their

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 3>estimated share of the US population. Though I'm sure that's true,

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 3>and it may have been a factor.

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 1>In my opinion. It could also be a.

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Case of bad timing, because after nine to eleven, everyone's

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:02.360
<v Speaker 3>attention shifted to national security and Twilight's case disappeared from headlines.

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:07.000
<v Speaker 3>But Sheriff high Toower told The Independent he believes keeping

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 3>the case in the news could help get it solved.

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 3>He said, quote from a law enforcement perspective, the more

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 3>that we can keep this on the front pages and

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 3>on the front burner, then I think the more opportunity

0:28:18.360 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 3>there is that it may resonate with that key person

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 3>who is holding that particular piece of valued information that

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 3>could really help unleash the rest of this case.

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 1>End quote.

0:28:29.360 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 3>The Warren County Sheriff's Office has stated this is still

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 3>an open and active case. Meanwhile, Twilight's family is left

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 3>wondering what happened that night twenty five years ago when

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:45.000
<v Speaker 3>she left the house. Bobby told The Independent in twenty nineteen,

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.720
<v Speaker 3>there are a million things that run through your mind.

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Who would have done it? Why would they have done it?

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<v Speaker 3>There are no answers end quote. Next week, in part two,

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<v Speaker 3>we are going to talk to more of Twilight's friends.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to see if we can figure out if

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<v Speaker 3>there were other people she was talking to, people who

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<v Speaker 3>the police may.

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<v Speaker 1>Not know about.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to try to see if we can figure

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<v Speaker 3>out who the owner of that jersey is, if they

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<v Speaker 3>know Twilight, who picked her up that night, and what

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<v Speaker 3>horrors happened to her in those woods after that. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen Gone

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<v Speaker 3>Murderline is a production of School of Humans and iHeart Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>It's written and narrated by me Catherine Townsend and produced

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<v Speaker 3>by Etaly's Perez Special thanks to Amy Tubbs for her

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