1 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: School of Humans. 2 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 2: Helen Got Murder Line actively investigates cold case murders in 3 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: an effort to raise public awareness invite witnesses to come 4 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 2: forward and present evidence that could potentially be further investigated 5 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 2: by law enforcement. While we value insights from family and 6 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: community members, their statements should not be considered evidence and 7 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 2: point to the challenges of verifying facts inherent in cold cases. 8 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: We remind listeners that everyone has presumed innocent until proven 9 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: guilty in a court of law. Nothing in the podcast 10 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: is intended to state or imply that anyone who has 11 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: not been convicted of a crime is guilty of any wrongdoing. 12 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. 13 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: On August twenty eighth, two thousand and one, fifteen year 14 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: old jesse Marie Twilight Song Crooks, who everyone knew was Twilight, 15 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: was hanging out at her home on Larman Mill Road 16 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 3: in Plano, Kentucky, when she got a phone call. The 17 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 3: phone call came in at ten point fifty two pm 18 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 3: from a phone booth at the Plano County Store, which 19 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: was a convenience store less than a mile away from 20 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 3: her home in that small town. The Plano Country Store 21 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: was kind of the center of Twilight's social circuit. A 22 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: friend of hers later told police Twilight would often walk 23 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: by there to buy cigarettes or hang out, and would 24 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: get people to drop her off and pick her up there, 25 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: so receiving a call from that phone booth would not 26 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 3: have been out of the ordinary for her. But Twilight crooks, 27 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: like many teenagers, had secrets, and like many of us 28 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: back in the day, sometimes she lived a double life 29 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: after hours, a few minutes after getting that call, at 30 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: around eleven PM, Twilight snuck out of her house. Now 31 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: according to the police report, when she left home, she 32 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: was wearing pajama bottoms and a T shirt, and she 33 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: was barefoot. Her friends later said that wasn't super unusual. 34 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 3: It would make sense if she was planning on hanging 35 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: out for a while and then coming back home. 36 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: On not being out for long. 37 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: Investigators have said they believe Twilight went out to meet 38 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: someone she knew. Her friends told police when she left 39 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: the house barefoot, a lot of the time, she would 40 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 3: have someone pick her up. They would ride around, and 41 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: then whoever picked her up would drop her back home. 42 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 3: But her family never found out who she was planning 43 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 3: to meet that night because she was never seen alive again. 44 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the past eight years of making 45 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: my true crime podcast, Helen Gone, I've learned that there 46 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 3: is no such thing as a small town where murder 47 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: never happens. I have received hundreds of messages from people 48 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 3: all around the country asking for help with an unsolved 49 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: murder that's affected them, their families, and their communities. If 50 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: you have a case you'd like me and my team 51 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: to look into, you can reach out to us at 52 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 3: our Helen Gone Murder Line at six seven eight seven 53 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: four four six one four five. That's six seven eight 54 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: seven four four six one four five, or you can 55 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: send us a message on Instagram at Helen Gonepod. This 56 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: is Helen Gone Murder Line. The next morning, Twilight's father, 57 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: Bobby and his wife Linda, Twilight's stepmother, realized that Twilight 58 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 3: was not in her bed. Anne had not come home 59 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: the night before. They called the Warren County Sheriff's office 60 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: to report her missing the next morning, August twenty ninth, 61 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 3: at six oh five am. At the time, the police 62 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: report noted Twilight had run away in the past. We're 63 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: trying to get more information about exactly what was going 64 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 3: on in Twilight's life that year. Twilight Crooks was born 65 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: on October twenty second, nineteen eighty five, in Santa Fe County, 66 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: New Mexico. Her mother was Native American, part of the 67 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: Arapaho tribe. She was also part Cherokee on her father's side. 68 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: Twilight lived with her dad and stepmom, but apparently regularly 69 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: visited her mother and the rest of the tribe, and 70 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: was excited to share what she had learned about their 71 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: culture with her friends. In Kentucky, Twilight was, according to Bobby, 72 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: doing well at school. Her family and friends all described 73 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: her as very bright. She was a sophomore at Greenwood 74 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: High School in Bowling Green and she was very accomplished. 75 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 3: Bobby Crooks later told journalists Twilight got straight a's and 76 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: was very popular in her class, and that she had 77 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: dreams of going to Harvard. But Twilight had reportedly run 78 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: away several times before. According to the police report, Twilight 79 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: was considered a habitual runaway. According to the missing Persons report, 80 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: on August twenty eighth, the days she disappeared, Twilight called 81 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: her father and asked if she could have dinner with 82 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: a friend. 83 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: Her dad said that was fine. 84 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: After that, she went to that friend's house had dinner 85 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: and was home by around seven pm. Linda and Bobby 86 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: told police they went to bed at around ten pm 87 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: after they said Twilight had done her homework, and they 88 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: told police that when they went to bed, Twilight was 89 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: taking a shower. After she got out of the shower, 90 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: she got that late night call at ten fifty two pm, 91 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: and a few minutes after that, without her parents knowing, 92 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: left the house. Twilight's friend talked to us about the case. 93 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 3: We asked her how she met Twilight. 94 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 4: Me and Twilight we met in elementary school. We went 95 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 4: to Cumberland Trace Elementary. I remember she was just so 96 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 4: sweet and kind, and I remember her grandmother would come 97 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: and eat lunch with her sometimes at school, and like 98 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 4: I was always intrigued by her Native American roots and 99 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 4: stuff like that. And she used to make bracelets for 100 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: everybody with seeds and stuff. We were very close friends 101 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: all the way up until she was killed. We were 102 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 4: teenagers and we experimented and weren't always making the safest choices. 103 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: I just remember that she was very trusting, and she 104 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 4: trusted a lot of people, and that is, you know, 105 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 4: what cost her her life. I believe I always felt 106 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 4: like it was somebody that we knew that we went 107 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: to school with, or maybe somebody that you know, we 108 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: knew from our town, because where her body was found 109 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: was so close to her house. And she was a 110 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: good kid. I mean, she had good grades, She had 111 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: big dreams and a bright future. She was just a 112 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: really sweet girl. And she was always smiling and always laughing. 113 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 4: She had the biggest smile, and it was light of 114 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 4: a room. You know. 115 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: Twilight had a brother who was two years older. Linda 116 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: told detectives they had reached out to Twilight's brother, but 117 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: that he had not heard from her and had no 118 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 3: idea where she was. They also called around to her 119 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: friend's houses, but no one had seen her at first 120 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: because she had stuck out and left home in the past. 121 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: Detectives treated the case like a run away, but when 122 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 3: she didn't come home, police from the Warren County Sheriff's Office, 123 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: who led the investigation, as well as other agencies including 124 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 3: the Bowling Green Police Department and eventually the FBI, scoured 125 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: the area for her, along with her family and the 126 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 3: rest of the community. Her family pasted missing posters all 127 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: over town looking for Twilight five foot five, one hundred 128 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: pounds with brown hair and brown eyes, wearing braces. On 129 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 3: September tenth, two thousand and one, at around four pm, 130 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 3: nearly two weeks after Twilight disappeared, a dog walker was 131 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 3: in the woods near Matlock Old Union Road in Plano, 132 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: about ten miles from Bowling Green. This is a very 133 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: remote area that has a lot of trees and other 134 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: types of vegetation around. Today it's a soybean field. The 135 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: dog walker found skeletal remains near a dried up pond 136 00:09:39,560 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 3: that dental records later confirmed were Twilight Crooks. Her body 137 00:09:45,400 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: was in pieces. On September tenth, two thousand and one, 138 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: Twilight Crooks's body was found. The next day was September eleventh, 139 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 3: two thousand and one, the day that terrorists attacked the 140 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: World Trade Center in New York City and the Pentagon 141 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. And suddenly the entire country was 142 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: focused on the terrorists attacking the United States. The murder 143 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: of a fifteen year old young woman of Native American 144 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: descent seemed to be quickly forgotten, although back in Kentucky 145 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: police were conducting their investigation, but it seemed like there 146 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 3: were a lot of missing pieces. Law enforcement tried to 147 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 3: figure out who had called Twilight minutes before she left 148 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: her house. They checked and discovered that the caller ID 149 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: showed the call came in from the Plano Country Stoor's 150 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: phone booth. But back then there were no surveillance cameras 151 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: at the store. It was a very different environment in 152 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: two thousand and one than it is today. There were 153 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 3: no ring doorbells or cell phone cameras, no surveillance video 154 00:10:57,560 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 3: outside that phone booth. The Independent newspaper in the UK 155 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: did an article about Twilight's case in twenty twenty three. 156 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: They interviewed Warren County Sheriff Bratt Hightower. According to the article, 157 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 3: Sheriff high Tower told the journalists quote, there is no 158 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: way of telling who placed the phone call to her 159 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: at the payphone that night end quote. Police were tight 160 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: lipped about the investigation. They did not even release a 161 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: cause of death, but rumors in town were already flying, 162 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: and when police talked to students at Twilight's high school, 163 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: several teens told police that there was a rumor going 164 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 3: around that Twilight had died of a methamphetamine overdose and 165 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 3: that the people who were with her panicked and hid 166 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 3: the body and Twilight's friend said police did not interview 167 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: a lot of Twilight's friends, including herself. 168 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: It's hard because this has happened twenty four years ago, 169 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: and I just feel like there wasn't much of a 170 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 4: follow up or anything like that with her friends. They 171 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 4: didn't give her story the attention that it deserved, and 172 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: like they never came to school, never questioned any of 173 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: us about what happened, or if we knew or or 174 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 4: hung out or they never ever came to the school 175 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 4: to interview anybody. They just made one announcement when they 176 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 4: had found her on the intercom that morning, and then 177 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 4: you know, of course nine to eleven happened in the 178 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: following day, which completely made her story just disappear. Like 179 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 4: I don't remember seeing anything else about it on the 180 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: news after nine to eleven. Everything was just focused on that. 181 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: I don't think they mentioned her name for like probably 182 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: a couple of years. I want to. 183 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: Say, though the case is still open. 184 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: We were able to access some information via a Foyer request, 185 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: but it seems like everything is redacted. 186 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: On some pages. There are more black boxes than there 187 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: are regular text. 188 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to do some serious sleuthing to 189 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 3: figure out who these people are and how they were 190 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: connected to Twilight. We got the autopsy report, but it's 191 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: redacted too, so we don't know the cause of death. 192 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 3: The toxicology report is also blacked out, so we don't 193 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: know if Twilight had drugs in her system or not. 194 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: But the incident report refers to a weapon being used 195 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 3: and it lists the weapon as a knife. That, plus 196 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: the fact that the police were very clearly treating and 197 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 3: labeling this as a murder investigation, would appear to point 198 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: away from the theory that this was an overdose or 199 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: something that could have been accidental. There were also rumors 200 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: flying around that Twilight had been decapitated. Police also had 201 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: some issues with the physical evidence. After nearly two weeks 202 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 3: in the Kentucky heat, Twilight's body had been skeletonized. Crime 203 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: scene photos that show part of Twilight's remains show that 204 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 3: her skull was lying next to the lower part of 205 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 3: her body, her spine and legs, but we can't tell 206 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 3: from these photos whether her head was removed by a 207 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 3: human or whether animals detached her skull. We also aren't 208 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: able to see her torso in these photos. It's been 209 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 3: reported that her body was partly covered with twigs and branches, 210 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: like her killer was trying to cover up the body, 211 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: but maybe didn't do a very good job or didn't finish. 212 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: When police processed the scene, they did find some physical evidence. 213 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: One of the items and evidence was a yellow and 214 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: white drinking straw, but no fingerprints were found on that straw. 215 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: Since they hit a dead end with the phone booth, 216 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: police were trying to figure out who Twilight was meeting 217 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: that night by delve into her personal life, and like 218 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: many teenagers, Twilight's love life was complicated. Twilight had been 219 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: dating someone a boyfriend, but they had recently broken up. 220 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: Police talked to him and he said he hadn't talked 221 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: to Twilight in a while. However, another friend of hers 222 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: told police she had seen Twilight standing outside the Plano 223 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: store arguing with the ex boyfriend. The friend could not 224 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: remember the exact date when she witnessed that argument. The 225 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 3: friend's name and the ex boyfriend's name are both redacted. 226 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: But there was another guy whom Twilight was talking to, 227 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: someone who friends said she met on the internet and 228 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 3: had been talking to regularly before she disappeared. This guy 229 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: was supposedly in Cincinnati, Ohio. Now police wanted to figure 230 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: out who this guy was and to find him. Could 231 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: he have been the person Twilight was meeting that night. 232 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: Twilight was active in church. She had recently taken a 233 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: trip with Hillville Heights Church to Cincinnati July. One of 234 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: Twilight's friends from her church group told police that during 235 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 3: this trip, Twilight told her she had met a guy 236 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 3: off the internet and she was supposed to be meeting 237 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: him in person at King's Island. The last day of 238 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: that church trip, which was July seventeenth, Twilight stayed in 239 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 3: a Hampton Inn hotel room with a chaperone and two 240 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: other girls. The police talked to the chaperone, her name 241 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: was Terry. Terry told them that Twilight was talking to 242 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: the same guy the one she had met in Cincinnati 243 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: for several hours on the phone on one of the 244 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: nights they were there. She said she got concerned Twilight 245 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: might try to sneak out. Terry, the chaperone said, Twilight 246 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: told her she had been sexually active with eight different guys, 247 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: that she was on the pill, and that her dad 248 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: was too strict on her. She also said that her 249 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: stepmom was always telling her what to do. Twilight told 250 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 3: the chaperone she had met the guy the summer before 251 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: when she was with her mom in Clarksville, Tennessee, and 252 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: that since that time, in addition to talking on the phone, 253 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: they had talked on the internet. Terry said that Twilight 254 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: started talking to the guy on the phone at around 255 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: eleven thirty pm and they talked for two to three hours. 256 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: The chaperone said she was worried about Twilight sneaking out 257 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: because she said she overheard part of the conversation and 258 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: Twilight was talking about meeting this guy later on. Terry 259 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 3: told police that after that night, she told the church 260 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: staff she didn't want to be responsible for Twilight anymore 261 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 3: because she was afraid of what she might get involved in. 262 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 3: One of the detectives on the case, Detective Davis, contacted 263 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 3: the Cincinnati Police. He asked them to send an officer 264 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: to the residence of the person whom Twilight had been 265 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 3: talking to. The Police in Cincinnati did locate the guy 266 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 3: that she had been talking to online, but they found 267 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: no trace of Twilight at his residence, and the guy 268 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 3: said he had not seen her and had no idea 269 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: where she was. This seemed to be another dead end, 270 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: so with the internet love interest crossed off, Detectives back 271 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: in Kentucky began looking closer to home. This included focusing 272 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 3: on the people who last saw Twilight, her dad and stepmother. 273 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: In January of two thousand and two, Twilight's stepmother, Linda, 274 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: contacted police. According to information contained in the autopsy report, 275 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: she said she was upset about the amount of time 276 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 3: the investigation was taking. She also said the family wanted 277 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: to know more details about how Twilight died, but police 278 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: declined to give the family any information about cause of 279 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: death because, as indicated in these documents, they believe this 280 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: might harm the investigation. They asked Linda Crooks to take 281 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 3: a polygraph test, which she agreed to do, according to police, 282 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 3: but then when they called her to set up a 283 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 3: time to come in and take it, Linda did not 284 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 3: call back. At some point, according to police documents, they 285 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 3: did tell Linda Crooks how Twilight was killed. They asked 286 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: both Bob and Linda to take polygraph tests, but in 287 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: the end, both of them refused. On September twenty fifth, 288 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 3: two thousand and one, officers searched Bob and Linda's residents 289 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: and vehicles. They took a number of items from the 290 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: home including a Dell computer, the one that Twilight was 291 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 3: using to email from. They also filed court orders to 292 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: get her email communications, but they found nothing of even 293 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 3: in cherry value in those emails. They began looking into 294 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 3: Twilight's local romantic entanglements, and they learned that recently she 295 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 3: had a boyfriend, though they had broken up sometime before 296 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: she disappeared. After talking to Twilight's friend, who, as we said, 297 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: saw Twilight arguing with the ex boyfriend late at night 298 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: at the Plano store, police went to talk to the 299 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: ex boy They asked him to take a polygraph test. 300 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: He said no and referred them to his lawyer. So 301 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: it seems like that avenue of investigation was pretty much 302 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: shut down after that. Police were also exploring other potential 303 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 3: suspects near the area where Twilight's body was found. Police 304 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 3: talked to people who lived near that area. They told 305 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 3: law enforcement about another guy described as a local boy. 306 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 3: They said this local boy drove up and down the 307 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 3: road where Twilight's body was found on a regular basis. 308 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: Now this was before the murder, but they said after 309 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: Twilight's murder, after her body was found, this guy disappeared 310 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: and had not been back since. Police apparently tried to 311 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 3: find this person, but he had left the area and 312 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 3: quit school. As the days and weeks went by, police 313 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 3: questioned several people, but they had no official suspects and 314 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: made no arrests. 315 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: Seemed to be. 316 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 3: A flurry of activity early on in the investigation in 317 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: two thousand and one, and then a little bit in 318 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: two thousand and three, and after that. A couple of 319 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 3: years later, items from the crime scene were sent in 320 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: for testing, but to this day this case is still 321 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 3: an open investigation. A podcast listener did a Foyer request 322 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: and did receive part of the case file. Again, parts 323 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 3: of it have been heavily redacted. Even though there were 324 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: a lot of blacked out areas, we were able to 325 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: cross reference addresses with names, and in some cases previous 326 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 3: interviews are mentions of people, and we were able to 327 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: get some clues. Another natural question is how long was 328 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: Twilight out in those woods? Could she have left home 329 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: voluntarily or been kidnapped and held somewhere and killed later. 330 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: The autopsy report estimated Twilight's time of death as sometime 331 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 3: around two or three am on August twenty ninth, which 332 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: which would mean that the evidence points to her being 333 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: murdered shortly after she left home, So the crucial window 334 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: of time remains between eleven PM when Twilight left her 335 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 3: house and early the next morning, August twenty eighth into 336 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: the early morning hours of August twenty ninth, two thousand 337 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 3: and one. One of the bigger questions surrounding this case 338 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 3: has been what was Twilight doing on the night she 339 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: walked out of her house after she had dinner with 340 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 3: her friend. Her parents said she came home and that 341 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: she was there until ten pm to their knowledge, but 342 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: she may have made a stop prior to or after that, 343 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: because we've discovered. Police interviewed someone on September nineteenth, two 344 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 3: thousand and one. This person's name is also redacted, but 345 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: they told police they saw Twilight at around nine to 346 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: fifteen pm at the Plano store and that at that 347 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: time she was wearing her pajamas, a white T shirt, 348 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: and checkered bottoms. This person told police that Twilight had 349 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 3: told him was going home and going to bed. The 350 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 3: guy added that Twilight was a good girl who loved 351 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: life and had no enemies. Twilight often hung out at 352 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 3: the Plano store. She sometimes would stop there multiple times 353 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 3: per day. She smoked and it was where she would 354 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 3: buy cigarettes. Twilight's friend said that to her knowledge, Twilight 355 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: had never actually run away from home, but she admitted 356 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 3: that back then, Twilight, like a lot of teens, had 357 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 3: a wild streak and a habit of sneaking out. 358 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 4: I remember she got her tongue pierced and I had 359 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 4: mine done, and a few other people did. And I 360 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: remember one day at school she was crying and I said, 361 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 4: what's wrong, and she said her dad made her take 362 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: her tongue piercing out because she got caught sneaking out 363 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: of her window, and so she was grounded. We were 364 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: just young and rebellious and fishing boundaries and then experimenting 365 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 4: with things that we probably shouldn't have been, not making 366 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 4: the safest choices. And I believe she snuck out that 367 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 4: night to use drugs, but that doesn't change like who 368 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 4: she was. You know, we all were kind of wild 369 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 4: at that age. I mean, we all smoked weed, and 370 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: we were experimenting like ecstasy and myths and cocaine. My 371 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: class in two thousand and three when we graduated, I 372 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: think we had fourteen of our classmates that were dead 373 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 4: by the time we graduated. It was like our class 374 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: was just cursed or something. I felt like, you know, 375 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 4: because there was people that died of overdoses, that they 376 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 4: were people that died in correct from being intoxicated, you know, 377 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 4: and then Twilight was murdered, and you know, there was suicides, 378 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 4: and you know, it's just it seemed like our our 379 00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: class was just like, I don't know, we just we 380 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 4: were all wild back then. 381 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: Bobby Crooks said in twenty eleven that he preferred to 382 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 3: remember Twilight as she had been in life. Same quote. 383 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 3: I have a beautiful daughter, and a certain part of 384 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: me wants to keep that image. I'll eventually have to know, 385 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 3: but it hasn't bothered me for the last ten years 386 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 3: to not know. I've got this image of her growing up, 387 00:24:52,360 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: what she looked like, and how she acts. 388 00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: That's what we hold on too. I can completely understand. 389 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 3: Why he feels that way, but as an investigator, in 390 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 3: my opinion, the key to solving this case is figuring 391 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: out what Twilight did after hours, figuring out the things 392 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 3: that she didn't tell her parents. I wonder could she 393 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 3: have left home, then come back home and gone out again, 394 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 3: because there's something else in the crime scene photos that 395 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: in my opinion makes that a possibility. When she was 396 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: found in the woods, Twilight was wearing jeans, not pajama bottoms, 397 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: So if she left the house barefoot, how did she 398 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 3: end up wearing jeans and a completely different set of clothes. 399 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: In two thousand and six, police released more information about 400 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 3: the clothes Twilight was wearing when her remains were found. 401 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 3: She was wearing a blue Edmondson County High School jersey 402 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 3: with the number ten on the back. This was a 403 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 3: high school that was twenty one miles away from Bowling Green, 404 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 3: where Twilight went to school. Her friends and family didn't 405 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 3: recognize the jersey and said, to their knowledge, she did 406 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: not know anyone from Edmondson County High School. So one 407 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 3: theory is that Twilight snuck out to meet up with 408 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 3: her killer and that her killer gave her the jacket. 409 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: Police did find hair at the crime scene. In early 410 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 3: two thousand and three, detectives contacted Twilight's biological mother to 411 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: get hair samples from her. They had hairs from the 412 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 3: crime scene, which they were able to confirm were not 413 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: a match to Twilight. Police also spoke to someone else, 414 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 3: a friend of Twilight's, but the friend's mother told the 415 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: young man to go into the house and not to 416 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: talk to law enforcement. They requested hair samples from this 417 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 3: young man, but his mother told police if they wanted 418 00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 3: to talk to him to get in contact with their attorney. 419 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 3: So this person's hairs were never tested. There are a 420 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: lot of dead ends like this in the case file, 421 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 3: and that's part of what we're going to be exploring 422 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: in Part two next week. We are going to go 423 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: through this case file and we're going to find out 424 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: who some of these redacted people were and try to 425 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 3: see if we can nail down where Twilight Crooks was 426 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 3: on the night she was murdered. There has not been 427 00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 3: a lot of media attention on this case. Some commenters 428 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: online have said they think that's because Twilight was Native American. 429 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 3: There have been a lot of stories about the epidemic 430 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 3: of missing and murdered Indigenous women. According to data provided 431 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: by the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, the FBI 432 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: reported five two hundred and three missing Indigenous girls and 433 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 3: women in twenty twenty one. According to this report, which 434 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 3: was quoted in The Independent newspaper, this is a race 435 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: equal to more than two and a half times their 436 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: estimated share of the US population. Though I'm sure that's true, 437 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 3: and it may have been a factor. 438 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: In my opinion. It could also be a. 439 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: Case of bad timing, because after nine to eleven, everyone's 440 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 3: attention shifted to national security and Twilight's case disappeared from headlines. 441 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 3: But Sheriff high Toower told The Independent he believes keeping 442 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 3: the case in the news could help get it solved. 443 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 3: He said, quote from a law enforcement perspective, the more 444 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: that we can keep this on the front pages and 445 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 3: on the front burner, then I think the more opportunity 446 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 3: there is that it may resonate with that key person 447 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: who is holding that particular piece of valued information that 448 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 3: could really help unleash the rest of this case. 449 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: End quote. 450 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 3: The Warren County Sheriff's Office has stated this is still 451 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: an open and active case. Meanwhile, Twilight's family is left 452 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: wondering what happened that night twenty five years ago when 453 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: she left the house. Bobby told The Independent in twenty nineteen, 454 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: there are a million things that run through your mind. 455 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: Who would have done it? Why would they have done it? 456 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: There are no answers end quote. Next week, in part two, 457 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: we are going to talk to more of Twilight's friends. 458 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 3: We're going to see if we can figure out if 459 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 3: there were other people she was talking to, people who 460 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: the police may. 461 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: Not know about. 462 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: We're going to try to see if we can figure 463 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: out who the owner of that jersey is, if they 464 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: know Twilight, who picked her up that night, and what 465 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 3: horrors happened to her in those woods after that. I'm 466 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line. 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