1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Caliber, Darius. When he goes out there and gets targeted 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: that much in the first game, I mean, how much 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: do you evaluate that critically and hard as a coach, 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: and how much do you say it's his first time 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: out there. I love to get experience and you know, 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: the first NFL game to throw the ball at you 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: and get a chance to see him cover, win some, 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: lose some, see his confidence grow, you know, see if 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: you can recover from a bad play. I think it's 10 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: a it's a positive. You know, anytime you get a 11 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: chance to practice your craft at the highest level and 12 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: you get a chance to fail and and win something, 13 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's how we all learn. So I'm happy 14 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: to have her. I'm happy this time last year and 15 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: you guys lost Uma for most of the season. UM 16 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: just curious your thoughts on where he has as a 17 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: player right now and maybe the growth since he's been 18 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: in your program. I think Za, we we call him, 19 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: I call him Z but um so I think Za. 20 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: The thing is, you know, how many games does he 21 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: actually have under his belt right now? It was about four, 22 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: I think about four games, So he's still in that. 23 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: You know that he's still young and in the process 24 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: of learning the NFL game. But I would say this 25 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: in terms of his study, his preparation right now for 26 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and twenty one season, it's been top notch. 27 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: I mean he's hanging out with the older Vets, getting 28 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: knowledge from those guys, He's making plays out here on 29 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: the field, all the stuff we're asking him to do. 30 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: So in terms of his progress, I mean it's moving along. Um. 31 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: He knows he has more than improve up, just like 32 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: you know all of us do. But it's moving along 33 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: pretty good. And looking forward to seeing them play and 34 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: practice against you know, practice today and practice against Cleveland 35 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: later this week. What did you see from Carter Conflint 36 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: on Saturday that was his first game playing inside? I 37 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: think the thing he saw was a guy being explosive, 38 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: running to the ball and really being a reflection of 39 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: what Joe wants this team to look like. You know, fast, tough, smart, uh, 40 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: being physical, you know, working on special teams as well. 41 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: So again, you know, as the team starts to take 42 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: shape and take shape of the direction of the head coach, 43 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff Joe talks about. I thought it 44 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: was reflective in his play going to Cleveland and going 45 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: against Cleveland. Um, knowing your guys, I would imagin in there. 46 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: You know, come on, coach, let's game plan. Let's let's 47 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: go against Cleveland. How much do you have to push 48 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: back against that or do you like the idea that 49 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: maybe you will match up a little bit against what 50 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland showing you? Well, I think the challenge with Cleveland 51 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: they have a lot of good players. So the first 52 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: thing I want to do when we start to talk 53 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: about Cleveland is idea the players. Before we even get 54 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: to the game plan. You gotta know who the backs are, 55 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: the tight ends, the old line, the quarterback. They're all 56 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: going to the receivers. They're all gonna present different challenges. 57 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: So we start there just like most weeks. Because again, 58 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: whether we play Cover three or Cover two, in this league, 59 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: everybody knows how to play a curl flat. Everybody knows 60 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: how to play a flat. So we get to take 61 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: care of that first. Then from there, the big thing is, Okay, 62 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: how much defense do we want to put in? Are 63 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: we gonna stay with our normal progression for training camp? 64 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of a mix. I mean, I'm sure they 65 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: want to put in a bunch of calls, but you know, 66 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: we gotta eliminate our mental errors first before we do that. 67 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: So thoughts on disease and uh, and how well he 68 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: matched up the other night, Uh, in the reps against Specton. 69 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, first first game, he has some 70 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: good plays, he has some bad plays, you know, like 71 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, there are plays you know against Beckton and 72 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: you know Beckon in the fullback that you know, a 73 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: few plays that I saw there. But like, you know, 74 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: it was okay, it was okay. He has a lot 75 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: of room to grow. Um. I'm encouraged by the fact 76 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: that you know, he played hard. His you know, his 77 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: conditioning is coming along. He's playing with his hands, being physical, 78 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: but he still has ways to go, just like most 79 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: of us. Um. But you know, it was encouraging that 80 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: he got out there, came away you know, no penalties, no, 81 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, no injuries. So that was encouraging. Way night, 82 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: help you shape the bottom half of your defense as 83 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: opposed to tell you anything about the defense itself. I don't. 84 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're there yet. You know, it 85 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: made like in terms of solidifying who's the top half 86 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: and who's the bottom map? So no, I know this. 87 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: You know, guys that came in like in the last quarter, 88 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: we had a bunch of situational football come up, you know, 89 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: four minute UM, you know, a couple of thirds and 90 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: shorts where guys made plays and in third downs we 91 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: got off the field. So that was encouraging that the 92 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: younger guys, with the guys in UM playing in the 93 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: later part, latter part of the game, they were in 94 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: tune to the situations. UM. We took away some of 95 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: the repeat plays that they ever run, So that was encouraging. 96 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: So if anything, I don't know if it's solidifies or 97 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: it marks where the bottom half is, but it was 98 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: encouraging that they were paying attention and that some of 99 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: the coaching that's going on is really coming to fruition 100 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: out there on the field. The box score doesn't say 101 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: how valuable Dalvin Tomlinson was to this defense in the 102 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: last couple of years. Can you get that out of 103 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: Austin Johnson and others or do you have to compensate 104 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: somehow not having that kind of like star presence in 105 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,799 Speaker 1: that spot. I'm never gonna comment about no, no offense. 106 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna comment about guys aren't here. No, Dalvin 107 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: was a good player here for the Giants. I was 108 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: here when he got drafted. You all love Dalvin. He's 109 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: a good football player in this league. Uh, And there's 110 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: no really, we're not gonna do any comparisons with our guys. UM, 111 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: defend the run, it takes more than one person. I 112 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: know that there's eleven guys out there. We got to 113 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: defend all those gaps, get off those blocks. So I 114 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: mean one person, two people. We just talk about this, 115 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: whether it's Austin Decks, Leo Blake, J B. A. Dory. 116 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: We can't go one for one in the run game. 117 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: So that's the big part about that, Like, no matter 118 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: what position you play, we don't go one for one. 119 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: So that's where we're trying to build that that type 120 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: of play style out there. So I mean that's my 121 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: answer on that. You have a lot of veterans up 122 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: front the defensive line group. One of the guys who 123 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: is a rookie from a small school really is is 124 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: Raymond Johnson. Um, what have you seen from him? And 125 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: has he assimilated himself enough where you know it's not 126 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: just the older guys and one guy over here that 127 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: he's kind of part of that group. I mean, he's 128 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: here because he played well at at the school where 129 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: he was at down there, and he could play football. 130 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: He's explosive, he has some twitch in terms of quickness 131 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: in terms of the pass rush. He has grit and 132 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: toughness about him. You know, whether he's inside or outside. 133 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: He has great demeanor when you get a chance to 134 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: meet him. Not sure if you guys have spoken to 135 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: him yet, but he has a great demeanor about him. 136 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: You know, he's very humble. So I mean, he's setting 137 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: himself up to have a good chance to compete, to 138 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: see if he could play in this league. And I'm 139 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: I'm excited about seeing what he could do, you know, 140 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: but he still has a long way to go. I mean, 141 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: especially that position. Nothing in the spring really matter. You 142 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 1: hit some sledge and all that stuff, None of that 143 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: stuff matter. Now he has pads on and he's trying 144 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: to see if he could play ball, and he's learning 145 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: as he goes. But you know, luckily he has spence, 146 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: he has Kevin myself, Joe. Joe wants to be a 147 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: D line coach to or something. You know, he probably 148 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: got four four or five D line coaches over there, 149 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, so he'll be good. If you're a guy 150 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: like that. To get reps like this week in Cleveland, 151 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: like you isn't more for all of them to get reps? 152 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like I mean, whether I don't 153 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: want to differentiate because however you got here, you get here, 154 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, and like you get here and you play 155 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: ball because you were obviously you were successful somewhere else. 156 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: So every all the reps are important for everybody. First 157 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: reps from my ease over the last you know, couple 158 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: of weeks. Um just sure his progress and how high 159 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: can this ceiling vida as a rookie, I think because 160 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: he's has come along, you know nicely. I mean just 161 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: just like a lot of the guys, you know, whether 162 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: you know it's a disease. You know, Raymond, we talked 163 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: about him, you know, row I'm encouraged with what's going 164 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: on with Row. Um, But I mean they don't really 165 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: know NFL football yet. You know, you have a quarter 166 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: underneath his belt. I mean, like again, I mean, he's 167 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: got a long way to go. I mean, he'll figure 168 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: it out at some point. I mean, I'm in my 169 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: thirteenth year. I'm still trying to figure it out, you know. 170 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, I would say this like 171 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: I said last week, he's physical, he plays with his hands, 172 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: he's learning from his mistakes. So that's all encouraging. That's 173 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: over the next two weeks going against Cleveland. I don't know, 174 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: but I know this. Cleveland's old line is pretty good. 175 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: When backs are pretty good. Quarterbacks, good receivers are good. 176 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Did I miss anybody? Tight ends? Tight ends are good. 177 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, we're gonna learn a lot. What 178 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: do you need? So you have Blake Martinez for that 179 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: next linebacker, either playing alongside of him or behind him. 180 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: What are the all of these you're looking for for 181 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: the guy who grabs that spot? All right? Team first, 182 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: football position, you know, like all the stuff we talk about. 183 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: That's how we evaluate these guys. Value the process, and 184 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: then in terms of the football part of it, football position. 185 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm looking for someone that you know, plays with his hands, 186 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: plays with good knee bend, knows where to be um, 187 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: you know, and you know you want something that compliments 188 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: It all depends on what the call is, what the 189 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: personnel grouping is. I mean, you know, we mix a 190 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: match so much, you never know. I mean like it 191 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: might be a coverage guy, it might be another run guy, 192 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: it might be a blitzer. We just mix it up 193 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: and just see how it plays out based on what 194 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: the plan is for that game. That makes sense.