Speaker 1: Check it on Man No Down Man, Thursday morning, November nine,
Speaker 1: It's the Beating the Book Podcast Mega Pod Live from
Speaker 1: the Day, Like saying that every week I've come, I've
Speaker 1: become used to it. It's our home here at the
Speaker 1: day in beautiful downtown Las Vegas. It's Gill Alexander, as
Speaker 1: always joined by the two staples of the show from
Speaker 1: his mother's cork attic, but disguised once again in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: p A. What is that Todd? What's behind you? What's
Speaker 1: the what's the background? I'm sure, I just I just
Speaker 1: scrolled through all the wacky backgrounds and I found one
Speaker 1: that I thought was fitting for today. It's a bearded
Speaker 1: Todd Wishne and all my left the conciliary to Derek
Speaker 1: Stevens here at Circuits Sports, VP of Operations at Circa.
Speaker 1: It's Mike Palm. How are you doing, man, g I'm good.
Speaker 1: Like you got your suit on, you got your name,
Speaker 1: crucifix for Todd. I don't know if you can see it.
Speaker 1: I know I'm on this. It's like the studio aid circle.
Speaker 1: There's cameras in every direct here right right here. I
Speaker 1: wore crucifix for Todd since he was celebrating Christmas. Hey,
Speaker 1: how about how about that if you would just actually
Speaker 1: act the precepts of Jesus rather than talk them a
Speaker 1: shot across. But I will forgive you four d and
Speaker 1: ninety times. By the way, how about the Washington Wizards.
Speaker 1: What was that reference for night? I don't even know.
Speaker 1: They said they asked Jesus Father, how many times? M
Speaker 1: as I forgive seven times? And he says seven times
Speaker 1: seventy times. Yeah, we believe Jesus walked on water. We
Speaker 1: just thought it was in the winter. Is that old Testament?
Speaker 1: That's my favorite Mikey line of all times. We were skeptical.
Speaker 1: We were Catholics, but we were skeptical Catholics growing up. Uh.
Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking of religious things, how about the state
Speaker 1: of Israel with Denny the ninth pick in the NBA
Speaker 1: draft to the Washington Wizards. The leaflet just became a pamphlet, Mikey,
Speaker 1: congratulations of you, thanks so much, appreciate it. Notamir Goodman
Speaker 1: having a little blurb about him. It was, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: were talking and on the bottom it said Tamir Tamir Goodman,
Speaker 1: the Jewish Jordan and he had a whole discussion. But
Speaker 1: then I was, by the way, speaking of Ashem. Ashem
Speaker 1: came through from me last week when Nicholas Chubb goes
Speaker 1: out about and the greatest time you plus four and
Speaker 1: a half and under eighteen and a half, and somehow,
Speaker 1: some way, the miracle of Ashem comes through for me
Speaker 1: instead of going against me. Here's how, here's how I
Speaker 1: knew you had that bet because you were desperately trying
Speaker 1: to justify it on text, and I'm like, okay, stop it.
Speaker 1: It went from a night should not he should not
Speaker 1: be running all alone in the last place, the last
Speaker 1: place of the game is supposed to run into the
Speaker 1: line and tackle. It shouldn't be running sixty yard by himself. Anyways.
Speaker 1: How often does that happen in a college game? Not
Speaker 1: enough pro game. I'm just saying, uh, win probability to
Speaker 1: a hundred percent win probability, Like if we're starting to
Speaker 1: do that in the NFL, and I get it, but
Speaker 1: imagine if at the end of the year the Browns
Speaker 1: don't get in on point differential or he loses some
Speaker 1: contract instead of because he didn't get in the end zone. Like, well,
Speaker 1: let's not take this to the ridiculous extreme, but you
Speaker 1: should have never been running all alone that on the
Speaker 1: sidelines in the first Okay, uh, Mikey, let me ask
Speaker 1: you a survivor question, because I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know this. I'm obsessed. What did you end up using?
Speaker 1: Did you use Green Bay Las Screen Bay Packers? I
Speaker 1: thought number e was right on, and there was two
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy people that had the Packers eligible, and
Speaker 1: I said, at highest it would be one two thirds
Speaker 1: and he said it will be just over two hundred.
Speaker 1: It was two oh four. He nailed it. In retrospect,
Speaker 1: if you could have got through now, it looks like
Speaker 1: the Sunday after Thanksgiving with the Packers hosting the Bears
Speaker 1: looks like the lay up looks like by far the
Speaker 1: best choice you could have made on that Sunday, if
Speaker 1: you could have, if you could have held the Packers,
Speaker 1: that game scares me. Really, Division games always scare me.
Speaker 1: This is the gauntlet, This is the Circus Survival Gauntlet.
Speaker 1: This is it. This Sunday, Thanksgiving and next Sunday. Three
Speaker 1: games in eight days, and I just pray I see
Speaker 1: you on the other side. One of the three oh
Speaker 1: one left. We went from three o nine to three
Speaker 1: oh one six lost on their three ten to three
Speaker 1: oh one. Six lost on the Eagles, three lost on
Speaker 1: the Ravens. I think if the Ravens weren't playing on Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: more would have lost on the Ravens. But because some
Speaker 1: were still saving there and now, I do you even
Speaker 1: want to use them against Pittsburgh? I mean, I I
Speaker 1: don't know what the play is. If you had to,
Speaker 1: you'd have to do a double option. James, you have
Speaker 1: two left and survivor. I do have to left. I
Speaker 1: purchased three and I still have too And like you,
Speaker 1: I did do Green Bay last week, and like every
Speaker 1: single week, it feels like it's coming down to a
Speaker 1: last second, last second drive some cases at the last
Speaker 1: second field go. I felt like it's been a sweat
Speaker 1: with these big favorites coming down now. Fortunately that hasn't
Speaker 1: been a big favorite upset for quite a while, but
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a it's a sweat for the
Speaker 1: last probably the last month. So you're obsessed by it.
Speaker 1: I'm on it by it At this point, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I'll I figure it'll get real if I
Speaker 1: can get through Thanksgiving. Well, I didn't give James is
Speaker 1: proper introduction it's it's former Westgate Super Contest champion James
Speaker 1: selenas Everybody and co host of The Mike Pritchard Power
Speaker 1: and co host of The Mike Pritchard Power Our, otherwise
Speaker 1: otherwise known as betting across America? Is that what you
Speaker 1: call it? The Mike Pritchard Power Out on Visa and
Speaker 1: Serious x SEM channel two oh four noon Pacific, three
Speaker 1: pm Eastern on Serious XEP channel two oh four. James,
Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for being on the megapod.
Speaker 1: First time you've ever been on the megapod? Right it
Speaker 1: has been is this I'm assuming this is a family show, right,
Speaker 1: so we'll conduct ourselves appropriately. O. How you guessed correctly? No? Um,
Speaker 1: now you've really reached the big time by the way
Speaker 1: that you're on this show. Um. So, James, are you
Speaker 1: going to is your strategy if you get by this
Speaker 1: Sunday to use opposite teams with your two remaining entries
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving? I don't know. I I've I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be I'm gonna be that standard athlete
Speaker 1: cliche and just take it one week at a time.
Speaker 1: And and actually I kind of scrapped what what I
Speaker 1: projected out a long time ago, just based on we
Speaker 1: knew that COVID was going to be an issue, and
Speaker 1: it was back in September and early October, schedules being
Speaker 1: shifted around. Games that you thought were going to be
Speaker 1: played this week now moved back and moved around. So
Speaker 1: I just play it week to weeks. So I'm hopeful
Speaker 1: maybe that might be if I have if I'm fortunate
Speaker 1: enough to get both entries through this Sunday looking at Thursday,
Speaker 1: that might be the option. But then you know I
Speaker 1: have right now, I have five out of the six
Speaker 1: teams still available, So yeah, it's a juggling cue. I
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I'm gonna do at first.
Speaker 1: I gotta figure out what I'm gonna do for this
Speaker 1: Sunday because right now I have no idea. Yeah, I'm well,
Speaker 1: we'll get to our Survivor picks later. Um, but can
Speaker 1: I just tell you this my last thing about Survivor.
Speaker 1: And I know this is the first week that everybody
Speaker 1: put in their entries. Finally in week ten was the
Speaker 1: first week they all submitted. See what it is next year? Uh,
Speaker 1: But I looked back at the ten games I've had
Speaker 1: so far, five of them were complete sweats. So the
Speaker 1: notion of you know, picking this week and I don't
Speaker 1: know that team that seems the lay up. There is
Speaker 1: no such thing as a layup. People are kidding themselves
Speaker 1: if they think there's a lamp. Everything that looks like
Speaker 1: a lamp just just skims by. The Steelers. The only
Speaker 1: team you used already? Correction? Yes, what about for you, James,
Speaker 1: what's the only team on Thanksgiving? Me? Use? I used Baltimore? Wow? Okay,
Speaker 1: so again Thanksgiving Houston, Detroit, Washington, Dallas and Baltimore Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: You could not have asked for a better trio of
Speaker 1: games from your pick comes you don't even know the
Speaker 1: quarterback and half of them who's going to be quarterback
Speaker 1: in half of those games? Yeah? Well, I'll get to
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking about that when we get to Survivor.
Speaker 1: Let's start with our best bets. This is how it works,
Speaker 1: of course, best Betsy, I do not, but go ahead,
Speaker 1: DoD please. Courts stenographer Todd Wishnev with the update. Sports
Speaker 1: stenographer Todd Wishnev here with the update on Mikey's O
Speaker 1: two in one week and he only got the one
Speaker 1: when Kyler Hail Murray. Wow, the ball comes flying out
Speaker 1: of the skies and touchdown baby in a game we
Speaker 1: had no business listening anyways. Mikey falls to fifteen thirteen
Speaker 1: and two. Gil goes also to fifteen thirteen and two,
Speaker 1: and I am at fourteen fifteen and one with a
Speaker 1: one one and one week in the teaser scenario, Gil
Speaker 1: and me are tied for first place at seven and
Speaker 1: three and Mikey lost his teaser last week and he's
Speaker 1: down to six and four. I also lost and I'm
Speaker 1: also down to seven and three, So we're doing well
Speaker 1: on teasers. We are doing well on teasers. A lot
Speaker 1: of Stanford long options again this week. We'll get to
Speaker 1: those also on the show. Uh okay, since you bring
Speaker 1: it up as okay, the Nick Chump thing was one thing.
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury is getting a lot of credit for the
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray kneel down on the line up at two
Speaker 1: point conversion mode instead of kicking an extra point when
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray hit DeAndre Hopkins for the Hail Mary, Cardinals
Speaker 1: go up to the only way you could get eating
Speaker 1: at that point theoretically is if you tried an extra point,
Speaker 1: it gets blocked and gets returned for the two point conversion,
Speaker 1: and so Cliff Jetinsbury is getting a lot of credit for,
Speaker 1: you know, going into the two point conversion mode and
Speaker 1: just taking a knee. My belief is that he thought
Speaker 1: it was a timed down. I am convinced that he
Speaker 1: looked into what looks like a great decision. I think
Speaker 1: he thought it was a time down and that the
Speaker 1: two seconds would run out because Kyler Murray looked completely surprised,
Speaker 1: and I think they had no idea that they would
Speaker 1: actually have to. You know, it happened in a Kansas
Speaker 1: State game. It happened in a Kansas State game about
Speaker 1: twelve years ago. I remember I was involved in the
Speaker 1: point spread, and I remember they didn't do the two
Speaker 1: point conversion for the exact same reason. Um So, I
Speaker 1: don't know whether you're right or wrong about Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: He's not the brightest bulb in the tool shed, so
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't know. Not the
Speaker 1: brightest bulb in the tool shed. I had the bills
Speaker 1: plus two and a half on a live ticket, and
Speaker 1: when they scored there, I said it, Derek, they're not
Speaker 1: going to kick this point because if you remember the
Speaker 1: old rules, if you blocked the kick, it was worth one,
Speaker 1: so you would kick it. You still went by one.
Speaker 1: But now that it's worth two. I said, he's gonna
Speaker 1: take a knee, and he did. You're smart. Well, you
Speaker 1: also could try to run it in and just give
Speaker 1: it to Murray and try to go forward. What do
Speaker 1: the oddset they can pull it out of him? Catch
Speaker 1: alignment catches? Why do anything? You might as well just
Speaker 1: take a knee. I mean, even though I wanted it
Speaker 1: to be, you know, three, because of my pick against you, Mikey. Alright,
Speaker 1: best best bets. Let us begin with our esteemed guest,
Speaker 1: Mr James Salinas. What is your first best bet of three?
Speaker 1: Sir well, I think so looking at the top three.
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, you know my process, gill Is. I
Speaker 1: usually I need to see all of our practice reports
Speaker 1: through Thursday and Friday, and especially this year, I think
Speaker 1: the value of trying to get ahead of the line
Speaker 1: as opposed to the value of knowing personnel availability is
Speaker 1: and I definitely defer to the ladder. But in this case,
Speaker 1: for you guys and this show, I think I will
Speaker 1: start off with our first game. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: Miami here in Denver on the road. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's mainly three and a half. So I don't know
Speaker 1: how you guys want to look at these numbers, but yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna lay the three and a half with
Speaker 1: the Dolphins on the road here in the Mile High City.
Speaker 1: And ultimately this is more so I mean, I like,
Speaker 1: obviously we've seen what Miami's doing. They've made the change
Speaker 1: at quarterback. I think twas helped them kind of expand
Speaker 1: their their offense within the red zone. That's given him
Speaker 1: more playmaking ability and really given chan Gailey a chance
Speaker 1: to catch up to the twenty one century and open
Speaker 1: the playbook, uh for to Ah because he has the
Speaker 1: ability to move around and they kind of play left
Speaker 1: handed as an offense now. So it's it's difficult for
Speaker 1: teams now that they're getting a few weeks, but difficult
Speaker 1: for teams to adjust to that, and they've been taking
Speaker 1: advantage of that clearly in the red zone. But more so,
Speaker 1: this is a bet against Denver and really what the
Speaker 1: dysfunction is within that locker room between the disconnect of
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and those players. Vic Fangio, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's multiple generations removed from this current generation of players
Speaker 1: that are playing the National Football League, and he he's
Speaker 1: as old school as it gets and he is not
Speaker 1: interested in trying to baby players uh and and bring
Speaker 1: them along. They pretty much left Drew Lock out there
Speaker 1: last week to continue taking a beating against the Raiders.
Speaker 1: He's got bruised there. They haven't really let up that.
Speaker 1: They haven't really put out there exactly what happened to
Speaker 1: Drew lack contusion in the ribs? Did he did he
Speaker 1: get hit? Does he need a hug? Whatever that is?
Speaker 1: But Vic Fangi, Vic Fangio, Yeah, there's one too, for sure.
Speaker 1: But Vic Fangio is not one to give hugs during
Speaker 1: the game. And Drew Lock is constantly looking around for
Speaker 1: someone to give him a hug. That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: So there's a big disconnect within that locker room between
Speaker 1: that coaching staff and in particular this offense. There's also
Speaker 1: a disconnect between those two units usually offense and defense.
Speaker 1: They don't hang out, they don't like each other a
Speaker 1: whole lot, but they will respect each other. I think
Speaker 1: there's a point now where there's defense is getting tired
Speaker 1: of having to carry the load for the Denver Broncos,
Speaker 1: and now they're knowing that really, I think last week
Speaker 1: fact that it was real clear that the eye and
Speaker 1: the prize for the Broncos is to let Drew Lock
Speaker 1: play the season out and his development development is really
Speaker 1: more important than the Broncos winning games at this point.
Speaker 1: So that's clearly the message within the locker room. There's
Speaker 1: been a lot of talk out here in Denver about
Speaker 1: where are they going to go at the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: et cetera. Where are the defensive players mindset right now?
Speaker 1: Because they are not happy the fact that they have
Speaker 1: to constantly come out here and and play, you know,
Speaker 1: have to have a stopped h and every time on
Speaker 1: the field because they know offensively that it's just a
Speaker 1: complete mess. So that's my first play. I will lay
Speaker 1: the three and a half and take Miami Dolphins on
Speaker 1: the road. Miami Dolphins. Todd hit it. Miami Dolphins. Are
Speaker 1: they for real? It's looking like they really might be
Speaker 1: that Brian Floores, what can you say about him? Hey,
Speaker 1: maybe two is actually good? Wow? Nice, very nicely done.
Speaker 1: By the way, we're giving James plus three and a
Speaker 1: half or plus three minus three, it's minus three and
Speaker 1: half and half or minus three is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was three and half YO found at minus three
Speaker 1: minus though he wants to use by the way, you
Speaker 1: guys are desperately trying to make that a thing, but
Speaker 1: that's always we've said. Nobody was trying desperately to make
Speaker 1: it a thing. But it's fair to take a minus.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, on the entire history of this show,
Speaker 1: we've talked about reduced juice and extra juice. You guys
Speaker 1: all of a sudden because I had that you you
Speaker 1: thought you were clever and made a think of it.
Speaker 1: It's not a thing. Minus twenty is one thing. But
Speaker 1: I want an asterix. If Yo and I finished tied
Speaker 1: this year for the best record, I should win it
Speaker 1: because he was used and used the minus one good lord. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I I don't like to agree with you against Gill,
Speaker 1: But in this case, hey, oh you know what I
Speaker 1: made it? I made another formatic formatic error. But Thursday night, yeah,
Speaker 1: the way I was good. I was about to interrupt,
Speaker 1: but I knew i'd get yelled at for interrupting. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, do you want to keep format? I
Speaker 1: though I should really know this. James do you have
Speaker 1: any opinion on the Thursday night game tonight, U. I
Speaker 1: mean it's I don't like the the where the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals are on the defensive line right now. I think
Speaker 1: we've seen that. The offensive line for Seattle, it's they're
Speaker 1: they're hurting net center. I don't even know who's gonna
Speaker 1: start at center for Seattle tonight, but everything falls on
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. The have to make plays. They haven't had
Speaker 1: any sense of the running game with the injuries that
Speaker 1: they've sustained at that position. But as far as the
Speaker 1: with as far as the Cardinals being able to apply
Speaker 1: any kind of pressure, we know Channel Jones has been
Speaker 1: out for the last few weeks, but right now, that
Speaker 1: entire defensive line it's all gonna be backups. And in
Speaker 1: my mind, it's one of the things that I constantly
Speaker 1: do with the NFL is it's just a severe drop
Speaker 1: off from experience and talent level from starters to backups.
Speaker 1: I don't know how Arizona creates any type of pressure
Speaker 1: with on Russell Wilson. So from that respect, I think
Speaker 1: it's it's he obviously needs He's still obviously a very
Speaker 1: talented player. This is more of a redemption spot for
Speaker 1: them short week, they get to be at home. Not
Speaker 1: twelfth Man, we know that. But I'm gonna lean towards
Speaker 1: Seattle Land the three and getting themselves right this weekend
Speaker 1: on the or this week on the short week. Alright,
Speaker 1: little Lean, not a best bet, Lean, best bet for
Speaker 1: you tonight of nothing, Todd, I'll be just watching in
Speaker 1: game and looking to go over if it looks like
Speaker 1: a typical Seattle game where they just score it well
Speaker 1: and give up at will. So if that starts to
Speaker 1: be happening very quickly, um, you know DK medcast running
Speaker 1: wild and Lockets running wild and Kyler Murray can't get stopped,
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's one of those kind of deals,
Speaker 1: I'll be jumping on the over problem. I think for
Speaker 1: me tonight on Primetime Action MSG plus seven to ten
Speaker 1: Eastern Monday through Friday, I think that it might be
Speaker 1: a Cardinals over teaser situation for me. But I will say,
Speaker 1: from an in game perspective, this feels like whichever team
Speaker 1: falls behind, there might be an opportunity on the team
Speaker 1: that falls behind in game just because this feels like
Speaker 1: a basketball game. Yeah, because it's going to just come
Speaker 1: down to the end like last time. Remember they had
Speaker 1: a six to say game a couple of years back.
Speaker 1: All right, So James Selina's first pick is the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Mikey pick number one. Want to take the Vikings in
Speaker 1: Lay seven against the Cowboys. Tough spot, short week, Cowboys
Speaker 1: off to buy. But the Cowboys can't stop the run.
Speaker 1: Minnesota is gonna be able to run the ball here.
Speaker 1: And when they can run the ball, Kurt Cousin is
Speaker 1: a serviceable NFL quarterback. I'm not buying into the game
Speaker 1: that Dallas gave. They gave the Steelers a good game
Speaker 1: the last time they played. And we're not that this
Speaker 1: is a pathetic team. This is a horrific team. I
Speaker 1: know they've gotten some players back. I'm not gonna stop
Speaker 1: fading them though. And uh, I think the Vikings now
Speaker 1: are back in the playoff hunt. They've resurrected their seasons
Speaker 1: from the from the oh and four start, And uh,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be focused here. And I said,
Speaker 1: it's it's not an easy spot to go to Minnesota
Speaker 1: fans or no fans. Two things. One, your cross is
Speaker 1: making me nervous, too um serviceable. I love that term.
Speaker 1: It's the most damning with faint praise think you could
Speaker 1: ever give someone. Mike, Mikey, you're a serviceable vice president
Speaker 1: of operations here gys compared to Ben Foxx not serviceable.
Speaker 1: I can't get through one of these without a shot, Todd,
Speaker 1: what's your first best bet? My first best bet is
Speaker 1: going to be James just learned the name of the show.
Speaker 1: James just learned the name of his show. For God,
Speaker 1: Mike kills it. Yes, Todd, I'm sorry with the Washington
Speaker 1: football team as my number one pick, God minus one,
Speaker 1: I believe is what do you have for them? Uh?
Speaker 1: One and a half? Yeah, one and a half? Consensus?
Speaker 1: You have one and a half? You okay? I see
Speaker 1: a lot of two. So I'm just sort of I'll
Speaker 1: take the one and a half. That's fine. So the
Speaker 1: reason I'm taking the Washington football team is um. Back
Speaker 1: in the day, there was a guy named alex uh
Speaker 1: Smith I believe was his last name, and he had
Speaker 1: two legs and he was a good quarter back. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't go crazy. He wasn't above average quarterback.
Speaker 1: He was pretty it was very very fine. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a good quarterback. That's what I'm saying, and now he's back,
Speaker 1: and it seems like he's got his two legs back,
Speaker 1: and they're down to Detroit. They didn't just decide okay,
Speaker 1: games over. They came back like they were a legitimate
Speaker 1: team on the road and made it a game. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're that bad. I don't think the
Speaker 1: Redskins are that bad. I know everyone loves old Joey
Speaker 1: Burrow and he's the next you know, coming of whatever.
Speaker 1: But you know, the Redskins just you know, they played
Speaker 1: tight with the Giants. They crushed Alice. You know, last week.
Speaker 1: I was very impressed that they didn't just you know,
Speaker 1: pack up tent and get out of that game. They
Speaker 1: came back, they made it a game. I think Cincinnati
Speaker 1: on the road is going to have some trouble. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, they've played much better at home this year. Really,
Speaker 1: the only game they were in on the road was
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis game where they got way ahead. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: they tied at Philadelphia also, But to me, this looks
Speaker 1: like a game the Redskins. You know, they they don't
Speaker 1: look like they're quitting. To me, they look like they're
Speaker 1: still playing. And I really like Alex Smith. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take Washington, all right, Washington football team ers minus
Speaker 1: one and a half versus Cincinnata. My number one pick
Speaker 1: will be the New England Patriots two and a half
Speaker 1: point favorites. What is it two or two and a half.
Speaker 1: Let's say two at Houston. Let's see what we got
Speaker 1: for New two? Yeah, do you want to give it
Speaker 1: to me? At one minus one oh three? You guys
Speaker 1: want to give it? You know. It's amazing Gil for
Speaker 1: such a bright guy that you don't understand that that
Speaker 1: minus is something. But we'll let it go. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: I think I understand the concept, Todd, but seems like
Speaker 1: thanks for belittling me. Uh So, here's the thing on
Speaker 1: guessing lines for two weeks now, and for those listening
Speaker 1: to guessing lines, they know this that the line that
Speaker 1: I have been the most off on involves the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: Last week, I guess Cleveland would be four and a
Speaker 1: half point favorites or five points, can't remember against them,
Speaker 1: And Chrissy was like, it's two and a half or three.
Speaker 1: I like your line a lot better. And I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe that Houston was getting that respect. This week, I
Speaker 1: said New England minus two and a half. This was
Speaker 1: Monday morning and Chrissy said, I like your line better.
Speaker 1: You won't believe this Houston. It's is either a pick
Speaker 1: him or Houston is favored by one and a half.
Speaker 1: And that first twenty four hours from Monday to Tuesday,
Speaker 1: this came all the way to New England minus two
Speaker 1: and a half. I do not understand why the Houston
Speaker 1: Tech and Texans seemed to get this initial line respect
Speaker 1: coming out of weekends. I don't think Bill Belichick is
Speaker 1: gonna let Romeo Crennell beat him here period. Um. And
Speaker 1: I think New England feels like they have a second
Speaker 1: life here after being two and they were on the
Speaker 1: cusp of two and six, they pulled that Jets game
Speaker 1: out of their behinds, and now after the win against
Speaker 1: the Ravens there four and five and they're actually thinking
Speaker 1: things about their season. Um. I still have a season
Speaker 1: win total under nine and a half on them. I
Speaker 1: don't think they get there, but I do think they
Speaker 1: are good enough to go into Houston and figure out
Speaker 1: a way to beat the Texans giving less than a
Speaker 1: field goal. I will take the New England Patriots is
Speaker 1: my number one pick of the week, James number two. Now,
Speaker 1: So just for so I'm clear with your format. If
Speaker 1: you if we both like the same game, do I
Speaker 1: need to find another game? Can I dan wagon with you? However, however, James,
Speaker 1: if two of the other panelists have picked a game,
Speaker 1: it's a good idea not to make it a third
Speaker 1: because it never wins, right, But you are allowed to alright,
Speaker 1: well lost in the center square with this one. To Gil,
Speaker 1: I think that I'm right with you. With New England,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if the Texans want to play
Speaker 1: let alone. What Todd was just talking about that last
Speaker 1: play against against the Browns last week where you're trying
Speaker 1: to You're trying to get us up and down the sideline,
Speaker 1: deals chubs sliding out of bounds at the one yard line.
Speaker 1: How do you give that up? I don't know why
Speaker 1: the Texans even want to play. They can't even keep
Speaker 1: their lead pr rep around anymore completely. I mean, everybody's
Speaker 1: just getting jettison from that team. I think at this point, now,
Speaker 1: the past a halfway point, everything falls onto Deshaun Watson's
Speaker 1: shoulders to have to make every single play. I think
Speaker 1: um as far as injuries are concerned, at the running
Speaker 1: back position for for Houston, David Johnson is on I
Speaker 1: R is back up now. Duke Johnson has not practiced
Speaker 1: this week. He is questionable. I don't know who the
Speaker 1: hell is gonna run the football. Laramie Tunsil at the
Speaker 1: left tackle position also is not practicing. So their offensive
Speaker 1: lines a mess, not only from that standpoint where I
Speaker 1: think Stephon Gilmore should be back finally for New England
Speaker 1: to bolster that secondary to help against the only the
Speaker 1: only past you know that the past attack for Houston,
Speaker 1: it's the only strength offensively they're gonna have. But more
Speaker 1: so just from the mindset of the Texans, I just
Speaker 1: I see this team continually ready to check out here
Speaker 1: and you're gonna place a New England team just like
Speaker 1: you said, gil where Bill Belichick is not gonna lose
Speaker 1: to Romeo coralnaw L and that team is not going
Speaker 1: to lose this weekend either. So one and a half,
Speaker 1: two and a half, anything under a three, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I'll lay that. I'll a that number win by a
Speaker 1: field goal on the road New England Patriots as my
Speaker 1: second play. I love being on the same side of
Speaker 1: as James is. If you if you could have it,
Speaker 1: if you could be on the same side as a
Speaker 1: super contest champion, as a fifteen thirteen and one asterisk guy.
Speaker 1: You take that opportunity every time you get it, Mikey
Speaker 1: number two. My next two picks are both already given.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give them both right now. Okay, my
Speaker 1: number two pick is I agree with James. I'm on
Speaker 1: a fade of Denver. Denver is awful. I argued with
Speaker 1: Lombardi for five minutes on Sunday about this game. He said,
Speaker 1: this was on the Raiders game. He this is was
Speaker 1: perfect spot for Drew lock that. But bah, they were
Speaker 1: going to beat the Raiders. I said, you said they'd
Speaker 1: go seven and one at home last year. Mike. But
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, this team is bad. This is
Speaker 1: a bad team. They don't have a quarterback. I agree
Speaker 1: with James the disconnect there with the coaches. They're They're
Speaker 1: just not good, just not in Miami. Continues to get
Speaker 1: better every week. Look, I mean they are playing very
Speaker 1: very well. I'm still impressed by that went over the Chargers.
Speaker 1: The Chargers are a good team. I love your pick.
Speaker 1: I love your pick to win the NFC the f
Speaker 1: C easy. I think right now they're the best team
Speaker 1: I like. I like that pick. I think they go
Speaker 1: to Denver. I think they handle this game. I think
Speaker 1: to as you said, continues to mature as a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Their defense will confuse a bad Broncos offense. And I
Speaker 1: look for I look for this game under and I
Speaker 1: like Miami to win by a touchdowner more How long
Speaker 1: before you and Lombardi just getting in a fist fight. Never,
Speaker 1: this guy's in love with me. I mean he's texting
Speaker 1: me every day about the song lyrics I put up
Speaker 1: with the playbook. I mean, it's incredible. If I ever
Speaker 1: did stand up comedy, I have to have Lombardi in
Speaker 1: the front, front row because he laughs at everything I say.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, he's he is a great
Speaker 1: shill for me. It's great audience to have. You know,
Speaker 1: he he really loves people where he hates them. There's
Speaker 1: there's no middle ground with that. But it seems that's
Speaker 1: he won't text. It seems that way. He doesn't seems
Speaker 1: that way, he doesn't. Alright, Todd's so that's two end.
Speaker 1: When third is I agree with Todd, I like what
Speaker 1: you can't you can't one second? Can we go in
Speaker 1: order he can come back with because we sip and
Speaker 1: given I don't want to spend a lot of time,
Speaker 1: I agree with Todd. I have the Washington football team.
Speaker 1: I think, really, I think the Washington football team is
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFC East, better than the Giants. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm out a Daniel Jones guy. I'm not a Daniel
Speaker 1: And if if Alex Smith is halfway healthy and he
Speaker 1: can push off at all, I think they're the better team.
Speaker 1: They have the best defense in that division. Philadelphia is abominable, abominable,
Speaker 1: My god, are they awful? And Doug Peterson might Drew
Speaker 1: Lock is Jeff George, you jarm no brain. I remember
Speaker 1: watching a Missouri Perdue game one time when he was
Speaker 1: in Missouri and I had Perdue and I had no
Speaker 1: business covering the game. Missouri could have literally word five
Speaker 1: hundred points had had Drew Lock had a brain in
Speaker 1: his head. And somehow I survived and won that game.
Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, this guy is not going
Speaker 1: to be successful in the I don't think he has
Speaker 1: this big of arm as Jeff George, and I don't
Speaker 1: think he's as dumb. But your your point is taken. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jeff George was not a likable guy. I just meant.
Speaker 1: I just meant from the like he has the NFL tools,
Speaker 1: I don't think he has the NFL brain. Listen, Todd,
Speaker 1: and someone who's as smart as you should be able
Speaker 1: to tell that I understood what you said there. That
Speaker 1: was a shot at what you said to me earlier.
Speaker 1: Wonder I'm obviously not that right. Okay, number two from you, sir,
Speaker 1: But the number two is going to be the dirty
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons birds, the dirty birds, remember the dirty Anderson's
Speaker 1: the sequencing, There wasn't sequencing. There wasn't as eloquent as
Speaker 1: I thought it might have been Dirty Atlanta. I'm to
Speaker 1: take the thirty Burdison. Here's why you know, they're really
Speaker 1: easily could be six and three. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: that's crazy to say, but they could easily be six
Speaker 1: and three had they not just given games away. They
Speaker 1: crushed Denver. They didn't just beat I know that the
Speaker 1: final score is very misleading in the in that football game.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're beating people pretty pretty nicely. Here. They
Speaker 1: crushed Minnesota on the road. This is a decent team Atlanta,
Speaker 1: and now he gets to go against Jamis Winston for reels.
Speaker 1: That is something you just you like to do. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what do you know what Jamis Winson's gonna
Speaker 1: do with New Orleans in a in a competitive game.
Speaker 1: None of us know whether he's gonna be decent or
Speaker 1: not good, or whether they're gonna have Kaysom Hill in
Speaker 1: there for fifty. New Orleans has a hard time beating
Speaker 1: anybody big anyways, because their defense isn't that good. Aside
Speaker 1: from the last the week against Tom Brady, they were
Speaker 1: giving up tons of points. To give up twenty four
Speaker 1: to Carolina, to the Chargers, twenty three even to the Bears.
Speaker 1: I mean, you give up twenty three to the Bears,
Speaker 1: and you're telling me Matt Ryan's not gonna torch you.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to win by five. Give me
Speaker 1: Atlanta dirty Birds, Falcons and Gwynette County, Cobb County and
Speaker 1: any other county round Atlanta plus five. He's still got
Speaker 1: election fever. Uh, Sean Payton is gonna jam Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: down our throats of this game. Have you guys gotten
Speaker 1: paid on your election bets yet? Know? Then? Why isn't
Speaker 1: there still a lineup? If it's not done? I know
Speaker 1: that was there should be, but there should be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the That was the first thing he said
Speaker 1: that was bright about. Yeah it was a good point. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it was a good point. That's absolutely right. We should
Speaker 1: all get paid. Al there's no lineup, then it's it's done.
Speaker 1: So he's right about his winning bets though everything after
Speaker 1: the actual putting it of a bet. I love you.
Speaker 1: Green Bay is my number two pet. Play green Bay
Speaker 1: plus what is it? One and a half? Green Bay?
Speaker 1: I have green Bay plus two. But you tell me, well,
Speaker 1: if you want to give me to give me two. Wait,
Speaker 1: let me just check it again, just to be safe.
Speaker 1: Give me to green They I have them? At how
Speaker 1: come I can't find him? All right? As you determine that,
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Packers just because I don't think they
Speaker 1: should be have dogs in this game at all. Plus
Speaker 1: one and half plus two I think plus two is fair, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think they should be dogs in
Speaker 1: this game by any stretch. Obviously, they didn't appear to
Speaker 1: give a darn if I may say so against the
Speaker 1: Jaguars last week, as we skated by with their survivor pick.
Speaker 1: But to me and I do know the Colts once
Speaker 1: again coming off extra rest here after they doubled up
Speaker 1: the Titans. I I just the the Philip Rivers third
Speaker 1: and one, fourth and one Shouldnigan's on Thursday Night Football
Speaker 1: was finally his coming out of the closet as a
Speaker 1: person who does not sneak. Seven opportunities where they six
Speaker 1: where they ran the football on third or fourth and one, uh,
Speaker 1: seventh where they passed, and then the eighth was the
Speaker 1: pinch sneak to Jacoby percent and again. If you're like, well,
Speaker 1: why are you making such a big deal about sneaks,
Speaker 1: This is a competitive advantage for any defense against the
Speaker 1: Colts in short yard situations. At some point this nips
Speaker 1: them in the butt in a very key moment in
Speaker 1: a big game. I think, Aaron Rodgers, I think you
Speaker 1: throw out that game against the Jaguars quite frankly last week.
Speaker 1: I think, uh I in a game with Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers, I will happily take the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers here against the Colts. I think the Colts and
Speaker 1: the Titans are both kind of fake good teams. I
Speaker 1: don't really buy into them. Um. I think the Packers
Speaker 1: a better football team. I will take them in a
Speaker 1: Pickham situation, or excuse me getting two points where there
Speaker 1: is there is no home field advantage in the NFL
Speaker 1: this year. It is not a thing. And so give
Speaker 1: me Green Bay, which essentially is a neutral field, getting
Speaker 1: a couple of points. It's just a numbers play for me.
Speaker 1: I'll take the Packers number three from James Well, I'm
Speaker 1: not knowing how you guys have gone through ten weeks
Speaker 1: with your with the podcast. For me, I have been
Speaker 1: anti Adam Gaze for for two years now. Talk about
Speaker 1: a dysfunctional coach that everybody is. He's running everybody out
Speaker 1: of there that won't that that don't want to buy
Speaker 1: into whatever crazy, cross eyed, dysfunctional game plan that he
Speaker 1: brings in weekend and week out. But and this may be,
Speaker 1: this may get me kicked off your program and never
Speaker 1: invited back to the Beating of Book podcast again. But
Speaker 1: I'm actually going to take the Jets in this situation.
Speaker 1: I have a plus eight and a half out here,
Speaker 1: a couple of give me another point? Why not? I
Speaker 1: this is yeah, that's a ton of points. Where where
Speaker 1: are the the Los Angeles Superchargers giving these numbers to
Speaker 1: be favorite over anybody? At this point, it's a two
Speaker 1: and seven football team. This is not a bet on
Speaker 1: the Jets, although they do have Quentin Williams coming back
Speaker 1: that's gonna help within the defensive line. I would bet
Speaker 1: the over as far as rough in the past or
Speaker 1: penalties in this game. For Greg Williams defense, they're always
Speaker 1: good for a few of those that will help sustain
Speaker 1: a few drives. It'll help sustain a few drives for
Speaker 1: the Charges. But ultimately, even if they have the lead,
Speaker 1: you know, Anthony Lynn and company are gonna find a
Speaker 1: way to dump the game. They're not gonna be able to.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're even gonna win this game.
Speaker 1: I'm ruining against it because whoever has the Chargers left,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they're gonna want to use the Chargers
Speaker 1: in the survivor pool this weekend, thinking that the Jets
Speaker 1: are just the bed against weekend and week out when
Speaker 1: it comes to the survivor pool. And that makes sense,
Speaker 1: but in this case, you're gonna have a team that's desperate.
Speaker 1: It's it's very hard obviously to go to to go
Speaker 1: undefeated in this league, and it's pretty hard to go
Speaker 1: winless in this league as well, so I think from
Speaker 1: that standpoint with the Jets coming off to buy not
Speaker 1: wanting to be if if there's ever a sense that
Speaker 1: there's gonna be desperation from the Jets playing like a
Speaker 1: weekend and week out to not be an O N
Speaker 1: sixteen football team despite Adam Gaze and all is all
Speaker 1: is really just constant dysfunction weekend and week out. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take the Jets plus the Todd said at nine
Speaker 1: and a half, that's fine, whatever that is. Anything over
Speaker 1: that eight, I will take it. I think the Jets
Speaker 1: stay in this game because of the Chargers in aptitude
Speaker 1: to finish off any opponents. So give me the points
Speaker 1: on the road with the New York Jets. Wow, taking
Speaker 1: the j E. T S Jets sets Jets Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: at the Helm plus nine and a half. By the way, guys,
Speaker 1: Woads just confirmed Clay Thompson ruptured achilles. Ah ah, you
Speaker 1: imagine back to back major major leg injuries. Remember when
Speaker 1: I when I popped my achilles in front of you, guys,
Speaker 1: You remember what my words were the Mike he said,
Speaker 1: are you in pain? I said, oh no, it's the
Speaker 1: mental anguish. It is the mental that was right before
Speaker 1: Todd said he we get those two balls? Hey, can
Speaker 1: I get those two tennis balls back? Freshly ruptured a
Speaker 1: r he said, the mental anguish of what I'm about
Speaker 1: to face for the next year, and Todd goes, hey,
Speaker 1: can I get those tennis balls back? The great lines
Speaker 1: ever unbelievable. Uh, poor Clay Thompson man and poor Warriors.
Speaker 1: I so badly wanted to see the band back together
Speaker 1: in Golden State. That sucks. Uh, Todd pick number three. Um,
Speaker 1: I was gonna go with Green Bay two. But um
Speaker 1: you know what, because you picked him, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: somebody else. Don't do that. You just told James he
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. Why are you doing that? No? No,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why I'm not doing it because I
Speaker 1: have four picks here that I liked. One of them
Speaker 1: was Green Bay, So I figured, and you need to
Speaker 1: catch up. Yeah, yeah, from Yeah, that's another reason I
Speaker 1: need to kick up. Um Okay. So here's what I'd
Speaker 1: like to take. I'd like to take the Dallas Viking
Speaker 1: game under forty eight. Dallas Vikings under forty eight. And
Speaker 1: here's why. Um, I think sneakily quietly the Minnesota team
Speaker 1: is becoming the old Minnesota team which plays good defense,
Speaker 1: runs the ball, make sure that Kirk Cousins doesn't beat them,
Speaker 1: just grinds out. W's real methodical. Uh, that's why Zimmer
Speaker 1: used to coach him up and then early this season
Speaker 1: they got away from that, and now lately it seems
Speaker 1: like they're cleaning it back up and it's back to
Speaker 1: just grind it out good defense. And that defense used
Speaker 1: to be really stellar, you know, in years past. Earlier
Speaker 1: this year it hasn't been good, but it seems to
Speaker 1: be picking it back up lately. So I just don't
Speaker 1: see how Dallas is going to score a lot of points. Uh.
Speaker 1: They needed one of those wacko kick return tricks to
Speaker 1: get points against the Steelers. I think they're gonna need
Speaker 1: a lot more. Who's who's starting Gilbert or I don't
Speaker 1: even know who these guys are? Who's starting at quarterback
Speaker 1: for Dallas? You know, how's Dallas going to get to
Speaker 1: more than seventeen points? I don't see it. Thirty seventeen
Speaker 1: still goes under, So give me the under. Forty eight
Speaker 1: in Dallas, Minnesota. Andy Dalton expected to start for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys this weekend. I don't care who's starting? They all stink.
Speaker 1: Clint Longley expected to start for the Cowboys this weekend.
Speaker 1: How about the clapper? Because wasn't the clapper? Backup? Steve
Speaker 1: or Gary Hogo Boom is starting this weekend for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Bernie cos Oh, that's very yes, he was there a dandy.
Speaker 1: Don Meredith didn't coach Sar come in in an NFC
Speaker 1: championship game when Aikman got hurt against against the forty
Speaker 1: Niners and nurse him through in the like the last
Speaker 1: quarter and a half to get him I think so?
Speaker 1: I think I think Aikman got concussed. Can cust great word.
Speaker 1: My final pick is the Tennessee Titans catching points against
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens. The Ravens are always tricky because they
Speaker 1: are the best come from a head team in football
Speaker 1: in many respects, but they can't come from behind to
Speaker 1: save their lives. What's that? You're getting? Five? How am
Speaker 1: I getting five? When I see six and a halves
Speaker 1: and sixes all over the place I see everywhere? Five?
Speaker 1: What kind of looking at all? Five? Pinnacle has five?
Speaker 1: You know what? You know what? It literally just moved
Speaker 1: like literally five minutes ago. Interesting. Wow, Okay, I'll still
Speaker 1: take the Tennessee Titans. So apparently the Mikey Gill's gonna
Speaker 1: take the Titans plus five minus. This joke keeps getting
Speaker 1: funny here. We just kind of had a little fun
Speaker 1: because there was it finally came up that somebody used
Speaker 1: at minus one. It wasn't a big deal. Well, he's
Speaker 1: gonna wasn't He's gonna milk it between now and next year.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let it go. Todd after Mike. The last
Speaker 1: time I said the last time I said that the
Speaker 1: asterix was funny, I'll agree to the asterisk type. It
Speaker 1: was funny. Yeah, let's move. I agreed to the asterisk tiebreaker.
Speaker 1: How about that? All right? I'm taking the Titans. The
Speaker 1: rematch of the playoff game between the Titans and the Ravens. Uh.
Speaker 1: Titans obviously famously beating the Ravens is the number one
Speaker 1: seed last year, Um Titans have again. Look, I just
Speaker 1: think it's just too many points. Again. It gets back
Speaker 1: to guessing lines on Monday. I thought Baltimore would be
Speaker 1: about a four and a half four point favorite in
Speaker 1: this game. Didn't understand the six or six and a
Speaker 1: half not as not as fun now, but I'll take
Speaker 1: it at five because I don't want to change up.
Speaker 1: I just think the Titans have the ability to that
Speaker 1: they match up quite well with the Ravens, and I
Speaker 1: do think with the Ravens. Any pick against the Ravens
Speaker 1: comes down to this game script situation where if you're
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to go ahead of them, you are just
Speaker 1: way ahead of the of the game at that point.
Speaker 1: If you fall behind, a little more challenging. But the
Speaker 1: Titans obviously a team um that knows they can beat
Speaker 1: the Ravens, even when they were at their heights last year.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're fearful of them at all. Give
Speaker 1: me the points. I will take all these. I do
Speaker 1: not understand why the Ravens are getting this kind of
Speaker 1: respect with that one dimensional offense right now. So people
Speaker 1: have figured out Lamar, It's not I mean, we've seen
Speaker 1: this before. A guy comes into the league, since the
Speaker 1: league on fire, the next year, they figure him out.
Speaker 1: I know, I think they're gonna have a harder time
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray, but but Lamar, they seem to have
Speaker 1: figured him out. They figured out Greg Roman is what
Speaker 1: they figured out Todd all right? If they had Kubiak
Speaker 1: they could run the ball still because he it was
Speaker 1: how to run the ball. This was a one hit wonder.
Speaker 1: Gregg Broman running the ball last year and he won
Speaker 1: the Assistant Coach of the Year. And now it's showing
Speaker 1: he doesn't have enough creativity in the run game. All Right,
Speaker 1: we gotten through our three best bets and now it's
Speaker 1: time for our best teaser of the week. And Todd,
Speaker 1: you and I seven and three and teasers? What's mikey
Speaker 1: six and four? All right? And James Selinas in the
Speaker 1: guest chair. James, you have honors, your honor, your favorite
Speaker 1: two leg six point teaser of the week? Six point teaser?
Speaker 1: What number do we have currently for the Kansas City Chiefs? Chiefs?
Speaker 1: I have at uh seven? Eight? What do you have? Gil?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm starting to lose confidence in what
Speaker 1: I have here on the screen. I don't think it
Speaker 1: means updating. I saw an eight earlier. I saw eights
Speaker 1: out here in Denver earlier today, So okay, well, I
Speaker 1: uh The two team teaser i'd like would be green
Speaker 1: Bay teasing him up past the seven may What is
Speaker 1: that eight? Now? If at six points green Bay plus eight,
Speaker 1: which should be I. I think I agree with Gil.
Speaker 1: I kind of lean towards Green Bay winning this game outright,
Speaker 1: but give me the additional points past that number, INDI's
Speaker 1: gonna struggle to score. They don't have any type of
Speaker 1: a running game. Uh. And now they're I think they're safety.
Speaker 1: They're having issues at the safety position as well. That
Speaker 1: that's their biggest weakness for the Colts is in that secondary.
Speaker 1: They're great against the run, they do have injuries, especially
Speaker 1: in this at the safety positions. So I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be plenty of opportunity for Aaron Rodgers to put
Speaker 1: some points on the board. We'll we'll see what Davante
Speaker 1: Adams ankle looks like as the week progresses, but I'll
Speaker 1: take that plus the eight and then with Kansas City
Speaker 1: COVID or not as far as the Raiders concerned, now
Speaker 1: we know those are big issues going on right now
Speaker 1: on that defensive side of the football. A ton of
Speaker 1: guys not gonna not gonna be able to practice this week.
Speaker 1: Maybe they play, but kind of similar to a few
Speaker 1: weeks back when they had to play Tampa and the
Speaker 1: offensive line was in quarantine. Now majority of those guys
Speaker 1: were able to come back and play on Sunday. But
Speaker 1: they didn't have any time to practice and prepare for
Speaker 1: that defensive pass rush and all the different looks that
Speaker 1: you were gonna see from the Tampa Bay defense and
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles. Same thing here with Kansas City. You have
Speaker 1: to be prepared on the field for all the different
Speaker 1: all the different gimmicks that we know, Andy Reid and
Speaker 1: Eric b Enemy, they're all there, o c are gonna
Speaker 1: bring to Las Vegas this weekend. The other piece with
Speaker 1: this too is as a Super Bowl champion weekend a
Speaker 1: week out, Kansas City is gonna get everybody's best shot.
Speaker 1: They got their best shot back a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: lost that game outright at home to the Raiders. I
Speaker 1: think in this spot here there's some redemption piece. As
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl champion, you're always trying to find different
Speaker 1: ways that you can find motivation. I think that was
Speaker 1: motivation enough. Uh. Coupled with the apparently I don't know
Speaker 1: is there gonna be? This is an opportunity I think
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs and Andy Reid and company to do
Speaker 1: a few bus laps around Allegiant Field this weekend. So
Speaker 1: I love the chief In this spot, we can get
Speaker 1: him down below a field goal with the teasers, count
Speaker 1: me in Green Bay plus the eight in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I guess at minus two. What do you think about
Speaker 1: the Raiders constantly being in COVID nineteen reserve week after week?
Speaker 1: It's like their whole defense, like you said, James is
Speaker 1: in this thing. They can know. Just to be clear,
Speaker 1: they can all play by Sunday if they have a
Speaker 1: string of negatives. Do you think it's a Raiders thing
Speaker 1: or is it a Vegas thing? I'm starting to get paranoid.
Speaker 1: It'd be a little of both. Yea, Mikey, your favorite
Speaker 1: two team. What's the number on the Chargers games? Are
Speaker 1: you sure I'm gonna appeal to you? Are you see
Speaker 1: nine and a half? Okay, so it's not that, then
Speaker 1: I'm not teasing him down to three and a half.
Speaker 1: I'll take the Cardinals plus nine tonight. I understand James
Speaker 1: concerned about the defensive line, but Wilson did not look
Speaker 1: good the last few weeks in these games. And I
Speaker 1: do think that Kyler Murray is dynamic and this Seattle
Speaker 1: defense is just really really really bad under bows of
Speaker 1: the Carol. So um, I'll take plus nine and then
Speaker 1: I'll agree with you and the Chiefs take him down
Speaker 1: to two. Yeah. Like I said, I'm i'm I think
Speaker 1: I'm teasing Arizona tonight with the actual total tonight. That's
Speaker 1: not my teaser of the week, Todd. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: green Bay plus the eight. We've all talked about why
Speaker 1: green Bay plus I'm even though Philip you know I'm
Speaker 1: in Philip rivers anonymous meetings and even you know every
Speaker 1: it was a tough week for the people in the
Speaker 1: meetings last week because Philip Rivers did cover, but he
Speaker 1: didn't deserve to cover. You know, that ridiculous punt helped him.
Speaker 1: So um, you know I love going against Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: Give me green Bay plus the eight and give me
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings minus the one. I already talked about
Speaker 1: why I like the Vikings and to keep the score
Speaker 1: down against Dallas. I don't see why they should be
Speaker 1: able to win the game pretty easily. Give me green
Speaker 1: Bay plus eight, Minnesota minus one, and I'm taking green
Speaker 1: Bay plus eight Sincecinnati plus seven and a half Cincinnati
Speaker 1: is yeah plus well plus, they're like plus one or
Speaker 1: you have them plus one and a half. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: you had Washington earlier, didn't we give you minus one
Speaker 1: and a half. So how am I only getting that's right?
Speaker 1: One and a half? Well, thank you very much. Okay,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati will recount total recat can we do a recount
Speaker 1: on this seven? Yeah? I think Joe Burrow and company.
Speaker 1: Keep it close. Yes, Todd, you're gonna say nothing. No,
Speaker 1: I'm good, Okay, Uh survivor pick so me and James,
Speaker 1: he's still alive and survivor. You're not required to give
Speaker 1: your survivor pick up the week here, James if you
Speaker 1: don't want to. But if you think you know which
Speaker 1: one you're going to take in circa, please by all
Speaker 1: means share with the people. Well, maybe this can be
Speaker 1: kind of a revisit of a numbers game that we
Speaker 1: were doing every Friday from three years ago, where maybe
Speaker 1: I was taking this team. Maybe I was a little
Speaker 1: a little bella check and move on you. I honestly
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't looked that far ahead. I'm
Speaker 1: struggling with this week, so I'm gonna let some things
Speaker 1: play out. So I don't want to say anything on
Speaker 1: there because I'm not number one. Yeah you you, I'm
Speaker 1: sure with you, We're competing against each other. But in
Speaker 1: all honestly, I just don't know right now. I you know,
Speaker 1: I It's funny. As these weeks have gone on, I
Speaker 1: have known less and less by the time of the show.
Speaker 1: I think, I think I'm taking Anthony Lynn in the Chargers.
Speaker 1: So I think it comes down to if you have
Speaker 1: everything available this week, do not have Pittsburgh? Okay, but
Speaker 1: I would. I think it comes down to you can
Speaker 1: take the Vikings for the charge. Yeah. I think if
Speaker 1: you have Pittsburgh available and you want to override Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: you take Pittsburgh. But the other two teams are the
Speaker 1: charges of the Vikings, and I trust, to believe it
Speaker 1: or not, the Vikings less than I do Anthony Lynn
Speaker 1: this week. Are you going to feel though, when there's
Speaker 1: two minutes to go, well, you got you got Land
Speaker 1: or Kirk Cousins? What do you want? I mean, you
Speaker 1: feel bad about both of them. It's third down in seven.
Speaker 1: Chargers are up by two there at the forty five
Speaker 1: yard line, and he makes some bozo maneuver so they
Speaker 1: have to punt the ball. Joe Flacco drives it down
Speaker 1: for a fifty nine yard field goal at the want
Speaker 1: Todd forget the end of the game. How am I
Speaker 1: going to feel at the end of the first half
Speaker 1: what he does every week andrews up the end of
Speaker 1: the first half. It's it's unbelievable. Running clock at one
Speaker 1: already and the Dolphins have one time out from your
Speaker 1: own sixteen and he throws three in complete passes. And this,
Speaker 1: of course after my earlier close call with the Bucks,
Speaker 1: when you're probably running a read option up by three scores,
Speaker 1: So so okay. So then I asked you the question
Speaker 1: that was to seven and then Chargers option from the
Speaker 1: nine yard line, And as I said at the time,
Speaker 1: it was like the Rocky music I had come from
Speaker 1: the dead. How does he not after having that first experience,
Speaker 1: How does that not lodging your brain and say, let
Speaker 1: me not do something dumb again? Here They all do it.
Speaker 1: He's not the only one. Tons of coaches from their
Speaker 1: own twelve yard line with no possible way of getting
Speaker 1: in field goal range, love to run plays. They can
Speaker 1: only go bad and cannot help you at all. The
Speaker 1: fall of the fact that he had done it in
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is why it made number one on America's
Speaker 1: most popular segment No Hyperbole Hyper Bowl and it's a
Speaker 1: big rip off grievances of your grievances. That's exactly what
Speaker 1: it is. It's feats of strength grievances was the original.
Speaker 1: You know I got a hard stop. Can I give
Speaker 1: you the game I'm not interested in? Yes? Please? Okay?
Speaker 1: Uh I have no interest in the Packers and Colts,
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. You guys. Are you love
Speaker 1: the Packers? Are? I just think the Packers are too
Speaker 1: jackal and hide. They could win this game, like we
Speaker 1: said about that Miami Arizona game, they could win this
Speaker 1: game by thirteen. They could lose this game by four.
Speaker 1: I mean they could because they their performances are inconsistent,
Speaker 1: especially on the road. So James, thank you for being
Speaker 1: with this last one. What big favorite? Most look like?
Speaker 1: Your choice? Your choices are Pittsburgh ten and a half
Speaker 1: for it's called ten point favorites. At Jacksonville there's only
Speaker 1: four choices, Chargers nine and a half point favorites hosting
Speaker 1: the Jets, Minnesota seven point favorites hosting Dallas, and then
Speaker 1: Kansas City above the seven. Now I believe because of
Speaker 1: Anthony charges, because of thank you, James, now your excuse,
Speaker 1: thank you, please put that cross back out of your shirt,
Speaker 1: thank you, and go to Bible study with the religious symbols.
Speaker 1: This guy's very intimidating, all right, James, Let's ask the
Speaker 1: Let's ask the final two questions. Let's ask him. Let'slet's
Speaker 1: start with the second one, first of those four big favorites,
Speaker 1: final two questions, which is the most likely to lose
Speaker 1: out right between Pittsburgh at Jacksonville, Chargers mosting the Jets,
Speaker 1: UH Minnesota hosting Dallas, Kansas City at Las Vegas. Pardon me, gosh,
Speaker 1: I hate the I hate the scheduling spot for Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: here we knowing that they have a short week with
Speaker 1: division rival Ravens on Thursday night, Thanksgiving Night. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm anna agreement with Mike. I think if if
Speaker 1: it's one of them that's gonna fall prey, it would
Speaker 1: be the Chargers. Basically again bet against Anthony Lynn. I
Speaker 1: actually took the Chargers back a few weeks back in
Speaker 1: the Survivor to get them out of the way so
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to be conflicted this week to see
Speaker 1: them playing the Jets. I took him when they played
Speaker 1: Jacksonville maybe three weeks ago. Or so I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with that. I'll go with the Chargers to lose, the
Speaker 1: biggest favor to lose on the board, and we'll go
Speaker 1: with the Chargers to lose to the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: And that Jacksonville game were down a touchdown late in
Speaker 1: the third they get were they down sixteen? I think
Speaker 1: I think at one point we were down sixteen. I
Speaker 1: think they were up sixteen and by seven, and then
Speaker 1: there was a fumble and it turned the game around
Speaker 1: in the late third quarter. But that's what I'm saying
Speaker 1: when I say I had five close calls out of ten.
Speaker 1: That's why, like everybody's like, I don't know, this is
Speaker 1: a free nothing's easy nothing. So like the notion Anthony
Speaker 1: Lynn could end up beating the Jets by twenty three
Speaker 1: and it'll be an easier walk than Pittsburgh could be
Speaker 1: a Jet. None of these are easy. Um, So, Chargers,
Speaker 1: the Anthony Lynn pick is James uh And that was
Speaker 1: also Mikey's todd. You know, the Jets average seven point
Speaker 1: five yards of play at least for the first half
Speaker 1: against the Patriots with Joe Flacco. You know, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: shock me if Anthony Lynn finds a way to blow it.
Speaker 1: I will take Minnesota for some reason. Anthony Lynn would
Speaker 1: usually be the pick here, but I just have a
Speaker 1: bad feeling about Dallas in Minnesota for some reason. I
Speaker 1: just have a bad feeling. So I'd say Minnesota just
Speaker 1: a hair over the Chargers. And the final question, we
Speaker 1: live in a bizarre world where of all these four
Speaker 1: teen games, again there's four teams on by this week,
Speaker 1: but of all the four teen games remaining, including tonight's game,
Speaker 1: let's say we were forced to bet aside on each
Speaker 1: and every one of them, but we were allowed one
Speaker 1: free pass. Mike, he said, it's Green Bay, Indianapolis for him,
Speaker 1: What is it for you? James? Detroit Carolina. We don't
Speaker 1: know who's going to start at quarterback for either of
Speaker 1: those teams. Bridgewater has knee issues and I suspect he
Speaker 1: probably won't play. But if that's the case, you've got
Speaker 1: Will Greer and p J. Walker, But you don't know
Speaker 1: who's going to start the quarterback position. Same thing with
Speaker 1: Detroit and Matthew Stafford with this thumb. But also, the
Speaker 1: Detroit is not a team. I hate Detroit. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna back Detroit. I don't even want to play Detroit
Speaker 1: until they get rid of Matt Patricia as the head coach,
Speaker 1: because there's another team that can't find a way to finish.
Speaker 1: They were very fortunate last week. Sure Matt Prater is
Speaker 1: one of their best offensive players, as always, bailing out
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia again from blowing another big lead to the
Speaker 1: to the Washington football team. I don't any part of
Speaker 1: that game, or those or that franchise for that matter.
Speaker 1: James cut to a shot of you on Thanksgiving mornings,
Speaker 1: sweating out your survivor pick on the lines, dying in
Speaker 1: a quarter. What's wrong? Jay, your your wife? You're like nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm betting on David Blow or Chase Daniel Um to
Speaker 1: survive Todd game. You want no part of Rams Buccaneers again.
Speaker 1: The Rams are up and down. You know, they play
Speaker 1: great against Seattle, they play crappy against somebody else. I
Speaker 1: I just don't know what what to get out of
Speaker 1: the Rams. And then you know, the other question is
Speaker 1: if they can pressure Brady all of a sudden, he
Speaker 1: looks terrible. If they don't pressure Brady, then he looks
Speaker 1: like the Hall of Famer that he is. So I
Speaker 1: just I don't understand what to do with that game
Speaker 1: at all? Here here the I said this on a
Speaker 1: numbers game this morning. I also said it on guessing lines.
Speaker 1: I think the two Rams stats of the week Sean
Speaker 1: McVeigh thirty one and oh when he leads at the
Speaker 1: half thirty want to know when he leads at the half?
Speaker 1: And here's one from this year. Rams defense has given
Speaker 1: up in their nine games this year, they're six and three.
Speaker 1: The Rams defense has given up a maximum of three
Speaker 1: points in eight of their nine second halves this year.
Speaker 1: Only Buffalo got more than a field goal against the
Speaker 1: Rams defense. Pretty interesting for a team that's supposedly known
Speaker 1: for offense. And Sean McVeigh, well, that's why I like that.
Speaker 1: I like the end game games because that's that's a
Speaker 1: game where I think, if you see the Rams getting
Speaker 1: pressure on Tom Brady, go ahead and bet the Rams.
Speaker 1: If you if they're not getting pressure on Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: then don't you know. But that's why I love end
Speaker 1: game betting, because you just get so much more insight
Speaker 1: as to how the game's gonna you know, play out.
Speaker 1: Totally agree, So I do Primetime Action with Matt Brown,
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Speaker 1: to ten pm easterre Uh. My pick for this sounds
Speaker 1: like a show I would have been great on with
Speaker 1: Hugh gilh. It sounds like it was you know what,
Speaker 1: it's a vehicle made for Todd Wishneff. It really really was, well,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I had a toss up
Speaker 1: here between two games Philadelphia Cleveland and Detroit Carolina. But
Speaker 1: I think James, I'm with you. I think it's Detroit Carolina.
Speaker 1: We I mean, ay, we don't know if it's Stafford,
Speaker 1: we don't know if it's Bridgewater, as you said. But
Speaker 1: just in general, I think I answered Detroit more to
Speaker 1: this question than any other team. I have no feel
Speaker 1: for the Lions week to week. You have no feel
Speaker 1: for the lines in the middle of from one quarter
Speaker 1: to the next. I mean, they coughed up that huge
Speaker 1: lead to Chicago. Earlier in the year, they almost coughed
Speaker 1: it up to Washington. So that's the team I want
Speaker 1: to party. So it's a Detroit and Carolina, and Carolina
Speaker 1: is no sure thing from week to week either. Um
Speaker 1: that's for sure, and no quarterbacks. That's obviously the answer
Speaker 1: Detroit Carolina. Thank you to Mikey Palm, who's gone, thank you, Todd,
Speaker 1: wishing James E James Selena's everybody co host of you
Speaker 1: buried the lead on James. How are you doing James
Speaker 1: in the regular contest? That's your fork. I'm probably Honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly where I stand with the standings.
Speaker 1: I'm probably about six or seven games above five D
Speaker 1: right now, I think, so I've on Todd, I've been changed.
Speaker 1: I changed my strategy with it this year. I've been
Speaker 1: playing more for the four week contests and then like
Speaker 1: we so the first you know, because they have such
Speaker 1: lucrative prizes for those mini contests. Uh, that's where like
Speaker 1: this year, I was in the hunt come week four
Speaker 1: for the first quarterly, but I had to do some
Speaker 1: contrarian plays and then that buried myself doing it that way.
Speaker 1: So it's been kind of pick up and make up
Speaker 1: from there. But strategy has changed this basic because those
Speaker 1: quarterlies have become so lucrative. So I think right now,
Speaker 1: like I said, collectively, I think maybe I'm six or
Speaker 1: seven games above. That's super interesting. So basically you had
Speaker 1: to go against what you would have otherwise done because
Speaker 1: you wanted to see if you could win. That's super
Speaker 1: interesting and that interesting how the the whole thing has
Speaker 1: been shifted yep, yep, and Todd, I did that last year.
Speaker 1: So last year, right at it or right about this
Speaker 1: time was I was writing contention for that third quarterly.
Speaker 1: So going into week twelve, yeah, it would have been.
Speaker 1: Obviously week twelve, I was like about a point and
Speaker 1: a half out of the first place. So I had
Speaker 1: to do some trarian plays, try to figure out what
Speaker 1: the top leaders were going to take, either go against
Speaker 1: that or go and stay away from that, and then
Speaker 1: also have to play the Monday night game to give
Speaker 1: yourself a hedge play, which I did last year. So
Speaker 1: I was able to make some money, some good money
Speaker 1: either way because it all played out that way. But
Speaker 1: those those are some of the things that you kind
Speaker 1: of have to consider playing the when you're playing these
Speaker 1: contests now because those quarterlies are in play. It's an
Speaker 1: excellent question, by the way, I asked it on a
Speaker 1: numbers game of James. I forgot not to ask it
Speaker 1: on the I forgot to ask it here on the
Speaker 1: podcast side, So thank you for that, Todd. By the way,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw this college football playoff.
Speaker 1: They refused to move it back, so they're saying that
Speaker 1: if a team comes up COVID outbreak right before a
Speaker 1: national semifinal, they're not replacing the team, and the team
Speaker 1: who gets the is on the other side of the
Speaker 1: field just advances. The season ends like that. College football? Yeah,
Speaker 1: can can they put an odd Can they put some
Speaker 1: odds up on? Will there even be a college football playoff? Yes?
Speaker 1: And no? I know they do a lot of the
Speaker 1: yes and no. That would be interesting. I would tend
Speaker 1: to lean the know it's all in play. By the way, James,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you on the spot and you could say, no, here,
Speaker 1: do you have you have any uh slot availability tomorrow
Speaker 1: morning to do a numbers game? Are you working? Uh?
Speaker 1: Let me have to look at my schedule. Let me
Speaker 1: look at my work schedules. Is a perfectly, perfectly acceptable answer. Um.
Speaker 1: But I just wanted while we're here to to ask you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that question, Todd, because I wanted to.
Speaker 1: That's a good then, James, are you in CIRCA only?
Speaker 1: Is that your your only contest you're in this year? Correct?
Speaker 1: I'm only I'm only in their did the circum millions
Speaker 1: and the Circus Survivor. That's it. No super contest for
Speaker 1: me this year, all right. Good luck to everybody, starting
Speaker 1: tonight with Arizona Seattle, but all through week eleven in
Speaker 1: the National Football League, for Mike, for Todd, for James,
Speaker 1: and thank you so much for doing this. James. Great
Speaker 1: to have you on board for the Mega Pod right
Speaker 1: here from the d in Las Vegas. Good luck with
Speaker 1: all your paces this weekend. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: would Batti Batt