WEBVTT - The Kardashians vs. Tristan Thompson 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:05.120 Hey rain Drops. Yes, so I finally got merch. That's right. 0:00:05.640 --> 0:00:11.280 You can buy your Allegedly and my Boys mugs, T shirts, 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:16.480 rain Drops, hoodies and T shirts all on Carlos Kingshop 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:17.680 dot com. 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.720 That's right. Get your hoodies, your T shirts. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:26.439 And your mugs all on Carlos Kingshop dot com. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.200 Welcome to Reality with the King. 0:00:30.560 --> 0:00:34.280 It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:38.080 one of the most sought after executive producers in reality 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:42.440 television with over ten years of production experience. Once a 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.159 week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:50.120 my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:54.080 and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and 0:00:54.200 --> 0:01:00.920 tweeting about. Hey rain Drops. On today eight episode of 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:05.200 Reality with the King. Obviously, we need to talk about 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:12.040 this latest episode of The Kardashians on Hulu and another ibby. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:16.200 I'm not gonna do this episode. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:21.360 Solo because I am back with fan favorite Blue to 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:28.120 Lusma to break it all down my own heroines. Yes, no, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.480 we have a producer named Sierra Spragley who does it 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.920 sound effects. So Sierra kicked them sound Effects Girl and 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.560 She's also a blue to Luzma fan. She told me 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:42.120 to tell you hello. She loves our conversations together. So, 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:43.760 how are you gorgeous? 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:47.520 I'm doing well. I slept like a baby this weekend, 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:48.560 so I feel exceptional. 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.160 You told me that somebody said you look like an 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:52.240 adult baby, too. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.280 Yeah. I don't know how to receive that. It feels 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.880 like a backhanded compliment. She's like, you look at an 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.480 adult baby, and I was like, okay, it's just my face, 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.440 thank you. She could have said baby face. It feels shady. 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:06.360 She does not look like an adult baby, so maybe 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.320 she was working through some feelings. 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.240 Mmm, so brain drops, let me know if that shade 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.800 is somebody refers to you as you look like an 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:15.840 adult baby. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:22.080 I mean, I have great skin, exceptional skin. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.600 You have quaranteers all over your face. 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:28.560 Thank you. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:28.960 Boo. 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.120 So someone called me a doll baby. 0:02:31.240 --> 0:02:34.320 I look, I'm kind of vain, so I may take 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.360 us a compliment like, oh, the skin is smooth like 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:38.639 a baby's bottom. 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:43.079 Yeah, but you're a man. There's just so many things 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:44.960 you can say to a grown woman. That she looks 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.600 like an adult baby just feels off. Although I will 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.400 say I want to know your skincare recgi when we get. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:54.079 Off, okay, I'll tell you because I need for some 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.400 sponsors and sponsored business. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.320 But nonetheless we have to get into the latest episode 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:02.480 of the Card Dash he's on Hulu. I would like 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.880 to refer to this episode as Tristan's apology tour. 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:08.280 That's literally what I wrote down on my notes. Oh 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:12.040 my god, we are kindred Okay, see this was meant 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:13.960 to happen. That's literally what I wrote my notes. 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.679 Not Kendrick Lamar, we are kindred spirits. 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:20.919 For those of you who are not well read. 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:29.160 Good catch No, it was definitely like Tristan rented out 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:33.919 a bus, okay, and he dropped off all. 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:35.120 The holes he slept with. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:46.440 And I mean allegedly, I mean allegedly vid he said, 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.320 you know what, I'm gonna drive this bus solo, and 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.920 I'm going to apologize to each of. 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:55.280 The Kardashian clan. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.720 So let's catch people up in case they did not 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:04.440 catch this episode and need a little refresher. So, as 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:09.720 you all know, Tristan third Trimester Thompson, as the Neighborhood 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:15.440 Talk blog calls him, he has cheated on Chloe numerous 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:19.839 times and actually had a baby on her yes, okay, 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:27.560 and lied about the baby's paternity until he admitted to 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:28.880 him being the. 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.279 Father by before old girl had the baby. 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:37.520 So he is living with Chloe because Tristan, who's a millionaire, 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:42.599 house wasn't ready that he was renovating, and him and 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:48.000 his brother who is handicapped, lived with Chloe because his 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.680 mother passed away and makes you rest in peace. So 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:56.479 Chloe has been taking care of Tristan, the brother, true, 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:02.560 the new son, and this entire household. But now Tristan 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.839 has moved out. And Chloe said something in this episode 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.400 that I want to get your take on Blue. She said, Look, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:14.119 although Tristan moved out, I made a promise to his mother. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.680 I'm so happy. Oh we're the same person. I wanted 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:18.280 to talk about this. This is exactly what I wanted to 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:19.680 talk about. Mm hmm. 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:24.480 She made a comment and said, although Tristan has moved out, 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:29.280 I made a promise to his mother that I was 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:32.320 still help and take care of them. I'm paraphrasing, but 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:37.200 that's that's that's essentially what she said. And as I 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.880 was sitting on my couch eating my old male blueberry 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.440 flax seed oil. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:44.440 Come through healthy king. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.080 Okay, come on, like, I'm all about it, right. I 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.800 literally gagged out an oat and could not finish the meal. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.320 What did you think about that statement? 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.480 Blue, We're the same person, we have the same title. 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:00.040 That is my first note? That is, okay? Is this 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:04.080 god showing off? I was upset because when she said 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:06.480 Tristan's mom Andrea left, you know, me in charge of 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.039 a lot of a Mari's care, and you know they 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:10.520 knew that I would be the one. Wait a minute, 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:13.320 the lady just met you and you the bottom bitch. 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.159 That's sorry, excuse my friend that his son is returning 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.160 to after the other poet, like, how did you wait? 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:19.480 Wait? 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:21.719 And so my first thought was, oh, so they're all 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.440 in on this, like they it's a money grab, right, 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.520 That was my first thought because in most let's be honest, 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.240 most Caribbean women are not leaving a random white woman 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.560 in care of their child unless she's filthy rich and 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:38.880 has so many resources that that supersedes bloodlines, family integrity, 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.200 making sense, you know. So I just feel like this 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.960 is another statement that accidentally proves that Chloe's a cash cow, 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:50.640 and all of her statements in the confessionals feel very rehearsed, 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:54.119 almost as if they are in conjunction with the edits 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.680 that they agree to. Like the storytelling was a little 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.520 bit too heavy handed. And while they called me a babyface, 0:06:59.560 --> 0:07:02.240 I was also realizing he's aging her because that mug 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.080 was cracked the entire episode. I was like, all this money, 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:08.520 you ain't got no moisturizer. Like, he's the suck you gus, 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.560 He's sucking the life spirit out of her body and 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:14.480 it's showing up on her face. I was, she's not 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:15.320 an adult baby. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.160 Well, no, this is the thing that I will listen. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:29.080 I think Chloe is still gorgeazz all of La or 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:30.520 New Tregina. 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:36.280 Or something, please something. That mug was cracked, she was dressed, 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:37.600 she was pressing her out. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.520 Well, that's what I wanted to get into me said 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.080 that because, and I've said this before, I met Chloe. 0:07:44.160 --> 0:07:45.720 Malika is one of my good friends. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.520 I met Chloe through Malika, and Chloe's the sweetest, more 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:50.080 down to earth fun person in the. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.720 World, I believe. I will say, for the past couple of. 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:59.760 Years, I haven't seen light in Chloe's eyes and am 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:04.480 every long time and I do feel sorry for her 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:08.880 because I want her to realize her own worth. And 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:12.120 we'll get into the Kylie and and Courtney conversation of 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:17.080 a lot later, my beloved, because I Fox with Courtney 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.760 hard body like the full circle moment. 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.200 Courtney's my favorite this episode. Who would have thunk it? 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.440 Courtney's my favorite this season, And we'll we'll do a 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:31.240 deep dive into that at I mean, Courney is letting 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.840 the girl's abad and I'm low key here for it's. 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:35.360 The house down from the inside. 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.840 I told you you did say that. So the thing 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:42.080 with with with Chloe is you're right. 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.040 He's a suscabas he he is sucking the life out 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:45.400 of her. 0:08:45.880 --> 0:08:47.320 She's not fun. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:54.480 And in my opinion, based on what started this episode, 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:59.320 I do agree with you that the confessionals are rehearsed. 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.400 The Kardashians let it be known they have final edit, 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:08.480 so they get to watch the episode make changes and 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.840 cuts before us the audience gets a chance to see. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:13.800 It, so they approve all of the content. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:18.120 And what I discovered as I was watching this episode 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:25.880 is this is setting up the reconciliation between Tristan and Chloe, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:30.440 because I don't understand why any man if that's not 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:33.080 my man, and if that's not the man that I 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.480 want to be with, and if that's not the man 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.440 who I want to marry, you don't have to apologize 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:42.480 to my siblings. You don't because I'm not invested in 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:46.160 you having a relationship with them. So what did you 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:50.319 think about the fact that this was a conversation that 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:55.320 Tristan had with Chloe where he said, I feel the 0:09:55.440 --> 0:10:00.840 need to apologize to your sisters for my actions. 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.040 I felt like he was a ventriloquis stummy, and that 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:08.280 Chloe's hand was up his butt making the words come out. Wow, 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.880 great rehearsals, beautiful gowns, guys, beautiful gowns. 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:11.440 Uh. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.120 None of it felt authentic. I know that we're supposed 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.040 to suspend reality with the Kardashians, but this pushed it 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.800 really far, even for them. Usually there's a certain level 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:21.280 of fun where I cold feel like they're ad libbing. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.920 This felt like there was a telepromter behind Chloe's head, like, 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:25.720 and I felt like her her mouth was probably mouthing 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.320 the words to help him along that little baby voice 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:31.160 in the stank walk. We'll get into that. I don't 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.040 Tristan's walk, Honey. I lived in DC for a long time. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.200 I have questions about that walk. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:39.800 But wait, wait, wait, so everybody's talking about in the. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.680 Previous that we called him a city boy. 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:49.480 But the way Tristan was walking in his swimming trunks, shirtless, he. 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:52.400 Has a high booty, it was it was. 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.440 A zesty walk. It was zesty and girls. 0:10:55.720 --> 0:11:01.080 The girls were saying it was very It was a stank, 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:02.920 feminine walk. 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:04.760 Can he look Okay for those of you who haven't 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:09.559 seen it, he imagine a stallion that suddenly starts pronouncing 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.199 around like a show pony instead, right, it was giving 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:16.880 show pony. It was very high booty activity. I will 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.040 say this as someone who has had You know, Carlos, 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:24.240 we're pro Lika, BIGGATICGA, the LGBT community and we love them, 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:27.080 and so this is not being homophobic. This is also 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.760 saying I've had several male friends who were rubbing on 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.320 everything and then discovered they were rubbing on everything because 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:35.680 they couldn't really commit because they liked something else. And so, 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.160 knowing Chloe's like, it would be unfortunate if he realized 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:40.440 that there's a reason why he doesn't know why he's 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:44.480 poking everything walking And I'm just saying that I'm opening 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:47.080 up the floor for us not to be anti and 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:48.960 to open up the floor for the Maybe Tristan's working 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.240 through some emotions for real. Right. He also made it 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.080 a point of mentioning that he's spend two years in therapy. 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:55.640 I'm nervous about what that therapist is going to find out. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.320 And it was very clear that Chloe said, you can't 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:03.199 come back unless you get your fifty lashings on television 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:05.520 every single week for the next two months. So by 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:08.600 the time you do come back, we have shown how 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.960 sorry you are and what really annoyed me. And y'all 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.080 know that I only bring up race because I'm breathing air, 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:19.000 and so that's why it's relevant. Right, So some of you, 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.040 I want to understand that I'm not an angry black woman. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:24.880 I'm actually an educated human of the world, and unfortunately 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.560 anti blackness works into a lot of things subconsciously. Right, 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.200 I don't think that Chloe recognizes for someone from an 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:34.040 academic mindset. It is a little off putting seeing the 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.760 stallion who got away getting the fifty lashes publicly to 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:40.280 prove that he has been made a homebound in docile 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:44.360 so that he doesn't leave again like there's some imagery 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:46.480 in that that makes me uncomfortable that if I ever 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.640 had a conversation with Chloe off camera, we would have 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.960 a conversation. I will say, though, Tristan is doing it 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.599 because he said it himself. He lost his mother and 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:58.440 his career all at once. Right, his chips were down, 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:03.120 and unfortunately, there's something slightly predatory about knowing that somebody 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.320 is compromised and is a wounded bird, and that's when 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.240 you get them to come back into the cage. And 0:13:09.280 --> 0:13:12.280 so it really upsets me that while everybody's talking about 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.839 poor Chloe, poor Chloe, this is still a man who 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.719 lost his mother in his career, and we don't talk 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:19.920 about how it feels when a man is being wounded 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:23.120 because we're so busy prioritizing Chloe's wounds. We don't talk 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.720 about the trauma that he objectively is going through. Despite 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:29.240 having a dirty pin, He's still a person. Tristan is 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:32.320 still a person. And that was my son who, in 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:37.199 the middle of mourning and loss, was being groomed publicly 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.680 for this apology tour, just so the woman that he 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.480 didn't want the first time could have him back without 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.959 looking stupid. I would feel a way she better hope 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.920 that his ancestors still appreciate her money and don't come 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.920 and hunt her in another night, because my answers would 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.319 be upset. So I get a trysted to the bad 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:52.960 guy in this, but he's still a person, guys, and 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.680 it feels predatory. Objectively speaking, it feels very predatory for 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:57.920 Chloe's benefit and her ego. 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:08.320 So you believe that Tristan is possibly right being used 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:16.640 to consciously for the cameras inflate Chloe's ego because she 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:22.800 wants this man to go national television to expose his 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.440 apologies to her in a public form, because she could 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.360 not handle the public embarrassment that was at the hands 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:31.280 of him. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.440 Right, it's called the redemption arc. 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:35.920 Redemption arc. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.800 So what you are also saying is the fact that 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:45.640 if we take Chloe aside, right, this this woman who 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:48.880 obviously was cheating on and some people do feel you 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.920 read what you sew because allegedly a lot of people 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.760 feel that she does this, meaning she takes men away 0:14:55.800 --> 0:15:00.280 from the woman they're in a relationship whip. So when 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.680 you think about Tristan and his trauma, he did say 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.920 this episode that he grew up in a household where 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.960 he just didn't see men being faithful and he thought 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:11.800 it was a right of passage as being a man. 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:17.320 And Tristan also lost his job. He's not playing in 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.920 the NBA anymore. He lost his mother, which as a 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.200 boy who lost his mom, it is the most devastating 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.080 thing you could ever experience. And not only oh my god, 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:33.040 I'm getting chills. Not only did this man lose his mother, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.040 he also had to within twenty four hours, be the 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:42.640 caretaker of a handicap brother. And at the end of 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:47.440 the day, and this is not being disrespectful, and I 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.520 want people to understand that's not my attention. Tristan did 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.200 not sign up to be the sole provider of his 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.960 handicap brother because at the end of the day that 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:01.080 was that's not Tristan's responsible ability in the sense of 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:05.400 he did not father this boy. So when the mother's 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:09.360 sole responsibility was taking care of the handicapped child, at 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:11.720 the end of the day, that's her responsibility because she 0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:14.520 gave birth to this boy. So all of a sudden, 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:20.000 I lost my job. I'm being called all these names 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:24.000 in the press for my actions, right, but within twenty 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:28.280 four hours, I now have to take care of my 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:33.800 handicapped brother for the rest of his life, and every 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:39.280 decision that I make, I now have to consider my 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:44.400 brother who will need to be taken care of if 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.640 I choose to go to Vegas, if I choose to, 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.160 like you know, leave the state of California. I now 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:52.920 have this responsibility and no one's talking about that. 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.040 And this woman who I did wrong, who I care 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.080 about but probably don't know how to love properly, she 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.240 and her family that has more money than God has 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:04.760 swooped it and said, we'll take care of all this 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.760 for you. Give you a job, help you redeem yourself publicly. 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:09.880 You just have to make sure that you make Chloe hole. 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.119 And I think the thing that there's a deal that 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.879 was struck come on the same way that allegedly Kim 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.479 and Raje did the thing, because Kim o Brandy one 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:21.440 hundred and twenty k It feels like whenever there is trauma, 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:23.600 there's a deal to be made. And christ Jianna's at 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.080 the helmet. What did I say the first time I 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.679 was on here? The devil works hard, Chris Jenna works harder, okay, 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.520 And so I don't think the espn of it all. 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.439 I don't think the apology toward it all. None of 0:17:33.440 --> 0:17:37.080 it is organic, but some of it is subconsciously predatory 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.280 because you know that his chips are down. This is 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.720 the perfect time. And let's be honest. What is Chloe 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.600 always complained about? And this is the most authentic thing 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:46.240 she's ever said on camera. She always talks about how 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.760 deregulated her emotions are. She's a cancer, they have lots 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:51.480 of feelings. She was talking about how deregulated her emotions 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.800 are because of the public embarrassment that she's endured from 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.359 all the romantic l's that she's taken over the years, 0:17:57.600 --> 0:18:01.200 and how her desirability is always being questioned. And I'm 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.280 someone who's been in a relationship with someone who what 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.920 was a tristan, not as bad as him, but someone dishonorable. 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.359 And I realized on the other side of therapy and 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.800 us breaking up that I only stayed that long because 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:12.960 I needed to be right. People had been laughing at 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.399 me for sticking by him for so long. My ego, 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:17.680 which I mistook from my heart, needed to be right 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.080 and say see, it was all worth it in the 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.480 end because we still figured it out. I didn't actually 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:23.080 love this man, I just didn't want to be wrong. 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.439 I don't think Chloe actually even loves him as much 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:29.680 as she thinks. She just doesn't. She needs a w 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:31.719 she needs a win, and the desire for a win 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:36.320 is being conflated for loyalty and love. Who Yeah, it 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.600 broke my heart. It broke my heart. 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.000 You third time to charm You gag me every time 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.760 you're on my podcast, and I have to sit with that. 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:47.240 Wow. 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:50.760 Chloe may not be in love with Tristan. She may 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:56.200 be in love with just being right and the desire 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.520 to have a win because she's taken so many l's 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.960 public And I do agree with you. I don't think 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:08.160 anything in that ecosystem called the Kardashians is happenstance. I 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:12.359 won thousand percent agree that a meeting was had with 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.400 Chris Jenner at the Helm and there was an exchange 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.800 of opportunities. You are going to sign this appearance release 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.639 to be on the show, and on this show, you 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:27.520 are going to publicly pretty much getting your knees to 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.479 beg for Chloe's forgiveness and in exchange for my daughter 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:37.120 not being stupid and being right in the end, See. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.199 He wants me. I don't want him. He wants me, 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:40.080 I don't want. 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.440 He begged me, guys for five seasons. 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.000 Yeah, I finally gave in, and in exchange for that, 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.679 I will give you a job on ESPN, which is 0:19:50.720 --> 0:19:55.040 owned by Hulu and Disney that airs their show. 0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:57.320 Huh yeah. Mother. 0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.000 Look, I worked in digital media for a long time. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:01.600 I've been in the press rooms when we've had to 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.399 construct things. So I'm speaking from someone who's been at 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.640 the table having to make some stuff up to create 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:09.000 a narrative, like this is not us pie in the sky, guys, 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:10.920 this is how the industry works. And Carlos, you know that, right, 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.960 So it's like interesting when you know how things work 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:15.760 and you're watching it, like, oh, I can see the storyboy, 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.800 this is interesting what happens next and the thing that 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:19.600 told on them. And this is where me being a 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.920 little OCD is helpful. I can tell that Chloe and 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.840 Kylie had the same talking points because they both made 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:28.639 the exact same talking point, we're both we're good with 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:30.399 Jordan like they it was almost like a copy and 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.080 paste that they were both reading the exact same bullet point. 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.280 And what struck me about the we're good with Jordan 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.680 bullet point, which really felt like a well constructed, curated 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.320 paragraph both times that had happened in the same episode. 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.080 You guys, if you're gonna have the same talking points, 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:44.800 at least make them different episodes so it's not so 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:49.480 obvious coming for consultations. But it's interesting that Chloe made 0:20:49.480 --> 0:20:52.240 it a point of saying she apologized to me, and 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.119 I accepted it, And my first thought was, where's the rest, 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:59.640 where's your apology to her? Because I don't think she's 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:04.760 ever really acknowledged that you and your big, big important 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:08.520 friends got on television and attempted to bully a young 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.960 black girl who you thought had no resources until the 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:14.639 smith swooped in, And had the Smiths not swooped in, 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:16.359 she would not have been in the good place she 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.159 is now. You could have destroyed her. A failed attempt 0:21:19.240 --> 0:21:22.080 is still an attempt, right, attempted robbery, attempted murder, They 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:25.280 still charge you. Yes, yeah, so just because the attempt 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:28.520 failed doesn't mean you don't owe an apology back. And 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:30.720 even with Tristan talking about her like she was a 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.280 young girl I shouldn't have. It was all just very 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.200 sad to me because at the end of the day. 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.720 We often forget that even holy ass men are people, 0:21:41.520 --> 0:21:44.960 and I think again, we're seeing how these girls, in 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.399 their quest for role domination to have a tendency to dehumanize 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:51.200 the men around them. They call it the Kardashian curse. 0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.600 Nobody can replace their father, so everybody else is just 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.199 an archetype and a stand in and you know, blocking 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:02.400 and lighting. It's all very very sad. And what really 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:05.800 struck me was the part where they pivoted to Courtney's 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.639 birthday party and they were like, and you know, Colee's 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.640 gonna be forty next year. I said, damn, Sis, we're 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:13.880 still here. You're gonna be forty next year, and your 0:22:13.880 --> 0:22:15.760