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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King.

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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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Speaker 2: television with over ten years of production experience. Once a

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Speaker 2: week on Reality with the King, we'll sit down with

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Speaker 2: my friends across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows,

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Speaker 2: and revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and

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Speaker 2: tweeting about. Hey rain Drops. On today eight episode of

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Speaker 2: Reality with the King. Obviously, we need to talk about

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Speaker 2: this latest episode of The Kardashians on Hulu and another ibby.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this episode.

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Speaker 2: Solo because I am back with fan favorite Blue to

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Speaker 2: Lusma to break it all down my own heroines. Yes, no,

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Speaker 2: we have a producer named Sierra Spragley who does it

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Speaker 2: sound effects. So Sierra kicked them sound Effects Girl and

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Speaker 2: She's also a blue to Luzma fan. She told me

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Speaker 2: to tell you hello. She loves our conversations together. So,

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Speaker 2: how are you gorgeous?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing well. I slept like a baby this weekend,

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Speaker 3: so I feel exceptional.

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Speaker 1: You told me that somebody said you look like an

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Speaker 1: adult baby, too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know how to receive that. It feels

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Speaker 3: like a backhanded compliment. She's like, you look at an

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Speaker 3: adult baby, and I was like, okay, it's just my face,

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Speaker 3: thank you. She could have said baby face. It feels shady.

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Speaker 3: She does not look like an adult baby, so maybe

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Speaker 3: she was working through some feelings.

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Speaker 2: Mmm, so brain drops, let me know if that shade

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Speaker 2: is somebody refers to you as you look like an

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Speaker 2: adult baby.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I have great skin, exceptional skin.

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Speaker 3: You have quaranteers all over your face.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Boo.

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Speaker 1: So someone called me a doll baby.

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Speaker 2: I look, I'm kind of vain, so I may take

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Speaker 2: us a compliment like, oh, the skin is smooth like

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Speaker 2: a baby's bottom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're a man. There's just so many things

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Speaker 3: you can say to a grown woman. That she looks

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Speaker 3: like an adult baby just feels off. Although I will

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Speaker 3: say I want to know your skincare recgi when we get.

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Speaker 1: Off, okay, I'll tell you because I need for some

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Speaker 1: sponsors and sponsored business.

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Speaker 2: But nonetheless we have to get into the latest episode

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Speaker 2: of the Card Dash he's on Hulu. I would like

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Speaker 2: to refer to this episode as Tristan's apology tour.

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Speaker 3: That's literally what I wrote down on my notes. Oh

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Speaker 3: my god, we are kindred Okay, see this was meant

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Speaker 3: to happen. That's literally what I wrote my notes.

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Speaker 1: Not Kendrick Lamar, we are kindred spirits.

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Speaker 3: For those of you who are not well read.

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Speaker 2: Good catch No, it was definitely like Tristan rented out

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Speaker 1: The holes he slept with.

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Speaker 2: And I mean allegedly, I mean allegedly vid he said,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna drive this bus solo, and

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Speaker 2: I'm going to apologize to each of.

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Speaker 1: The Kardashian clan.

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Speaker 2: So let's catch people up in case they did not

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Speaker 2: you all know, Tristan third Trimester Thompson, as the Neighborhood

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Speaker 2: Talk blog calls him, he has cheated on Chloe numerous

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Speaker 2: times and actually had a baby on her yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: Father by before old girl had the baby.

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Speaker 2: So he is living with Chloe because Tristan, who's a millionaire,

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Speaker 2: Chloe has been taking care of Tristan, the brother, true,

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy. Oh we're the same person. I wanted

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Speaker 2: She made a comment and said, although Tristan has moved out,

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Speaker 3: Come through healthy king.

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Speaker 2: Okay, come on, like, I'm all about it, right. I

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Speaker 2: What did you think about that statement?

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Speaker 3: Blue, We're the same person, we have the same title.

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Speaker 3: That is my first note? That is, okay? Is this

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Speaker 3: the lady just met you and you the bottom bitch.

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Speaker 3: That's sorry, excuse my friend that his son is returning

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Speaker 3: to after the other poet, like, how did you wait?

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Speaker 3: And so my first thought was, oh, so they're all

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Speaker 3: That was my first thought because in most let's be honest,

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Speaker 3: and all of her statements in the confessionals feel very rehearsed,

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Speaker 3: almost as if they are in conjunction with the edits

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Speaker 3: I was also realizing he's aging her because that mug

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Speaker 3: was cracked the entire episode. I was like, all this money,

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Speaker 3: you ain't got no moisturizer. Like, he's the suck you gus,

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Speaker 3: He's sucking the life spirit out of her body and

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Speaker 3: it's showing up on her face. I was, she's not

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Speaker 2: Well, no, this is the thing that I will listen.

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Speaker 2: I think Chloe is still gorgeazz all of La or

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Speaker 3: Or something, please something. That mug was cracked, she was dressed,

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Speaker 3: she was pressing her out.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what I wanted to get into me said

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Speaker 2: that because, and I've said this before, I met Chloe.

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Speaker 1: Malika is one of my good friends.

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Speaker 2: I met Chloe through Malika, and Chloe's the sweetest, more

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Speaker 2: Years, I haven't seen light in Chloe's eyes and am

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Speaker 2: we'll get into the Kylie and and Courtney conversation of

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Speaker 2: a lot later, my beloved, because I Fox with Courtney

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Speaker 2: hard body like the full circle moment.

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Speaker 3: Courtney's my favorite this episode. Who would have thunk it?

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Speaker 2: Courtney's my favorite this season, And we'll we'll do a

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Speaker 2: deep dive into that at I mean, Courney is letting

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Speaker 2: the girl's abad and I'm low key here for it's.

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Speaker 3: The house down from the inside.

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Speaker 1: I told you you did say that. So the thing

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Speaker 1: with with with Chloe is you're right.

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Speaker 2: He's a suscabas he he is sucking the life out

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Speaker 1: She's not fun.

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Speaker 2: And in my opinion, based on what started this episode,

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Speaker 2: I do agree with you that the confessionals are rehearsed.

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Speaker 2: The Kardashians let it be known they have final edit,

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Speaker 1: It, so they approve all of the content.

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Speaker 2: And what I discovered as I was watching this episode

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Speaker 2: is this is setting up the reconciliation between Tristan and Chloe,

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Speaker 2: because I don't understand why any man if that's not

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Speaker 2: to my siblings. You don't because I'm not invested in

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Speaker 2: think about the fact that this was a conversation that

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Speaker 3: I felt like he was a ventriloquis stummy, and that

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Speaker 3: Chloe's hand was up his butt making the words come out. Wow,

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Speaker 3: great rehearsals, beautiful gowns, guys, beautiful gowns.

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Speaker 3: None of it felt authentic. I know that we're supposed

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Speaker 3: Tristan's walk, Honey. I lived in DC for a long time.

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Speaker 2: But the way Tristan was walking in his swimming trunks, shirtless, he.

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Speaker 1: Has a high booty, it was it was.

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Speaker 3: A zesty walk. It was zesty and girls.

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Speaker 2: The girls were saying it was very It was a stank,

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Speaker 3: Can he look Okay for those of you who haven't

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Speaker 3: seen it, he imagine a stallion that suddenly starts pronouncing

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Speaker 3: around like a show pony instead, right, it was giving

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Speaker 3: say this as someone who has had You know, Carlos,

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Speaker 3: we're pro Lika, BIGGATICGA, the LGBT community and we love them,

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Speaker 3: and so this is not being homophobic. This is also

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Speaker 3: saying I've had several male friends who were rubbing on

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Speaker 3: poking everything walking And I'm just saying that I'm opening

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Speaker 3: up the floor for us not to be anti and

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Speaker 3: to open up the floor for the Maybe Tristan's working

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Speaker 3: through some emotions for real. Right. He also made it

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Speaker 3: a point of mentioning that he's spend two years in therapy.

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Speaker 3: I'm nervous about what that therapist is going to find out.

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Speaker 3: And it was very clear that Chloe said, you can't

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Speaker 3: come back unless you get your fifty lashings on television

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Speaker 3: every single week for the next two months. So by

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Speaker 3: the time you do come back, we have shown how

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Speaker 3: I'm actually an educated human of the world, and unfortunately

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Speaker 2: Chloe may not be in love with Tristan. She may

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Speaker 3: I don't want it.

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Speaker 2: This conversation he apologizes to her, and in the midst

435
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: of that conversation one thing.

436
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 1: He said that literally struck me again.

437
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: Blue Tristan said, I want to gain the respect back

438
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 2: of my family, and I kept rewinding get he said

439
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: my family, And I thought to myself, the kardash Chance

440
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: is not your family.

441
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: You're not even married to Chloe. And that's when it

442
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: hit me.

443
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 2: And everything you're saying leading up to this point is

444
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 2: accurate in the sense of this man really is doing

445
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 2: whatever it takes so that next season when he gets

446
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: down on bended knee and propose it to her, yes,

447
00:24:53,280 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 2: he all of this, Blue is to be in the

448
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 2: institution of the Kardashian family. It was a slip of

449
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: the tongue that really showed me that's the intention.

450
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 1: My family. They're not your motherfucking family. Dude.

451
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: Do you know where else you hear the terms like

452
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 3: my family using correctly When you're watching shows like Selling

453
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: Sunset and you're seeing people like a Manza, most toxic

454
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: companies call themselves your family. Isn't that true? Most times,

455
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: when you're working for a toxic corporation, they get you

456
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: by convincing you that they are your family. So I

457
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: think it tracks. He's a company man, just like Scott Disick,

458
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: who's on the world's longest freaking Goodbye tour? Can they

459
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 3: keep bringing them back? And that's, by the way, the

460
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: Redemption of Scott has a has a has a crush

461
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 3: on on on Chloe, and Tristan is begging Chloe. The

462
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 3: whole episode was, Oh my god, all the men are

463
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: so we all just want Chloe want clothes so bad.

464
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 3: It was so sad, y'all.

465
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,439
Speaker 2: And Kim too, Kim saying, oh, Chloe's the most fun.

466
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: I want Chloe to be her hot girl Era you're

467
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: right there. Oh my god, I blew You're right.

468
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 2: From Scott to Tristan to Kimberly, everybody is heralding Chloe

469
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: as no, she's this person because they all know she

470
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: does not feel that way about herself.

471
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 3: I wonder if she was in the editing room, because

472
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, did Chloe write the script? Like who's at

473
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: the bullet points? Because it's ma'am. Sometimes it's a writer.

474
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 3: You need somebody else to like read it to be objective.

475
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 3: It felt like she copy and edited the entire thing herself.

476
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 3: Did The final edit said, yeah, this is the episode

477
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: Everybody loves Chloe. That's the name of the episodeverybody loves Chloe.

478
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: Not everybody loves Ray, but it's everybody loves Chloe.

479
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 3: Everybody loves Chloe. It was heavy handed. Honey Jesus himself

480
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 3: could not get that many compliments in one episode. I

481
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: was like, my goodness, what else does she do that?

482
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 3: She saved a baby? Waial, Like what's happening? Chloe is magical,

483
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: Chloe is the best thing ever. Oh my god, some

484
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: residents sets on Chloe. Here comes Tristan. I just want

485
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: to know. I'm sorry for my penis. You know, I

486
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: didn't have a full other I was like, wow, this

487
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: is this is There's a lot of stereotypes being jammed

488
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: into one episode, which is why I will say this.

489
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: The fun part in all this was Kim Kardashian in

490
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: the middle of the glory interest in the Paloty Tour.

491
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: Honey is booked, Honey is winning, Honey is sought after. Okay,

492
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: she didn't even need a storyline. Her real life is

493
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,120
Speaker 3: the storyline.

494
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: Kim said, while you are worried about chasing this community dick,

495
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: I'm out in the world collecting checks, collecting jobs, not sleep.

496
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: But I Kim showed the badass that she is. Oh,

497
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: and the thing was Scott this season, to me is

498
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: the fact that Scott is also I don't Scott doesn't

499
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: look healthy to me, He's.

500
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 3: The original Tristan. He lost his parents, he was sad,

501
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 3: he stayed on the show. Like they've done this before.

502
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 3: Guys like this is not as being see says like

503
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 3: we've seen it with Lamar with Scott, like same thing,

504
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: an orphaned man who's no longer technically with anybody, but

505
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: he's still being called family one time as a fluke

506
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: seven times in twenty seven seasons is a pattern. Let's

507
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: call a thing a thing. Beloved.

508
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: Scott is the original Tristan. So he understand why Scott's

509
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: on the show because because.

510
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: Chloe needs him. I used to be Courtney, but now

511
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: Courtney has gotten the other community dick from down the street.

512
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 3: So now Courtney like they're just passing it around like

513
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 3: a party blunt. He was there to prompt up Courtney.

514
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 3: Now he's there to prompt up Chloe Kim don't need

515
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: him sho, Like, what's up? Scott got my own story line.

516
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 2: She was not into the conversation where they were talking

517
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: about like her script.

518
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 3: She's a real life. That's what it looks like when

519
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 3: you were even Cotlie had a real life. She's like, Okay,

520
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: I did my thing. I'm gonna go see Timothy in Paris.

521
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 3: By guys like the girls with the real lives barely

522
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: said they're bullet points. They're like, yeah, Cloye's the best. Okay, bye, guys.

523
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: I was sad. It was sad. I'm so happy that

524
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 3: Courtney was in this episode, which shows guys the first

525
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: episode y'all saw me. And it wasn't because I hated Courtney.

526
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: I just saim not someone who can lie, right. So

527
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 3: I told the truth about her then, and we're gonna

528
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: tell the truth about her now because I knew her

529
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: Ari's recklessness was going to be the part of the

530
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: programming that I needed. She got the same document, but

531
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: you could tell she read it in the angry voice.

532
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: Oh baby, she took them beats. So in reality TV

533
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: we call them beats. You when you have a a

534
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: an attention, when you're when you're filming a scene. They're

535
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: called beats that you talk about with the talent. So

536
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: Courtney took her beats, and to your point, she made

537
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: it her own. Yes, it's like what your teacher said,

538
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: do not copy verbat up from the book, cite your

539
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: sources and making your own. That's what Courtney did. So

540
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: then it was Courtney's chance to have her sit down

541
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: with Tristan, and you could tell that Courtney is not

542
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: taking this shit seriously. She's laughing upon entry. She has

543
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: a notebook that she got from Walgreens. She has her

544
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: big ink pen, and she said, are you nervous And

545
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, betch because I'm pretty sure you're not

546
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: going to follow the script that Chloe and Chris Jenner

547
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: bro allegedly. So I am nervous because you already are

548
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: the wild card and the family. So one thing he

549
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: says to Courtney that almost made me throw my laptop

550
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 2: into the fireplace. This man says every time he cheats,

551
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: he feels disgusted. The next day, Yeah, I was triggered

552
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: by that too, and I was like, oh, man, I

553
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: don't know if you're disgusted because of the amount of

554
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: condoms that's in the hotel brothel where you're sleeping with

555
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: these women is disgusting. I don't know if you're disgusted

556
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: because you have a hangover the next day and then

557
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 2: you really get to see how this woman.

558
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: Looks, who looks good in the club lighting.

559
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're disgusted because the next day

560
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: you see all of these misphone calls from Courtney.

561
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Chloe. See I'm like, I'm.

562
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: Like Tristan who don't want to bang out of the

563
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: sisters or Travis.

564
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: Oh yes, allegedly allegedly allegedly.

565
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: So are you disgusted because you see miscall some Chloe

566
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh my gosh, I'm going to have

567
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: to go on this show and once again grabble back

568
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: to her because that's the only way I'm going to

569
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: get paid income. Because he's not getting paid income to

570
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: do the NBA job because he no longer has it.

571
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: Tristan's getting paid to be on this show. So what

572
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: do you feel about that? This man saying I feel

573
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: discussed the next day, if anything discussed me, I'm not

574
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: going to continue doing it if I feel so disgusted.

575
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: Unless you're contractually obligated by the biggest conglomerate in the

576
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: world and entertainment. I feel like, honestly, I feel like

577
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: it's a sex addiction. I feel like Tristan has a

578
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: sex addiction, a lot of unresolved trauma, and has made

579
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 3: a deal with the devil proverbally speaking. And I do

580
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: feel like sometimes she does probably way to keep feeling

581
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: disgusted by his choices. But it's not because of the sex.

582
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: It's because of He's like, how did I get myself here?

583
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: I've cheated on her again, even though on camera pretendent

584
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: we're not together anymore. I gotta go practice my lines

585
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: on the Uber ride the black car service over to

586
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 3: the set. I gotta go pick up Kim's kids, because

587
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 3: that's my storyline with hers, that pick up her kids,

588
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: because she won't talk to me otherwise. Like, it's a

589
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 3: lot to do today. He's probably a little depressed. I

590
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: do think that you're I'd be able with depressed two friend.

591
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: It's a lot to do on a Tuesday, So I

592
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: do believe he wakes up disgusted, But I don't think

593
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: it's because the warm body next to them. It's because

594
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: of the totality of the deal that he struck and

595
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: he realizes that this is going to be the next

596
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: couple of years of his life. He is forever tethered

597
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: to them, the same way Scott was, the same way

598
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: Lamar always was, Like almost was. There's so much to

599
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: be said about how these men are getting trapped during

600
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: weekend moments, and how the scandals actually create the perfect

601
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 3: platform for them to become indungured servants. And so that's

602
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: why I loved Pete so much, because Pete was such

603
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 3: a wild card that you could tell he was only

604
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 3: there because he wanted to be there, You know what

605
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 3: I mean. You can tell the men who want to

606
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: be there versus the men who have to be there,

607
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: they move different.

608
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: Pete Davison wanted to be there, and perhaps he saw

609
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: how the machine was operating and said I got to go.

610
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: He has mental health issues. His stapa is probably told

611
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: him to get out. To be honest, I always thought

612
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: that Pete was pulled out by his sturpist or somebody

613
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: who cared about him, because that machine will eat up

614
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: somebody who's healthy and he's not interesting.

615
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: I think the only man who wanted to be there

616
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: and did not succumb to the pressures is also Chris Humphrey.

617
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his God. Though he's a church boy. Somebody

618
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 3: probably laid hands and prayed on him to pull him out.

619
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me

620
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: because when you think about the men who have been

621
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: on the show, the ones who lasted long, and by long,

622
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 2: I meaning having a contract to appear on the show,

623
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: Scott dis Sick.

624
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: Lamar Rob the brother.

625
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: Chris Humphreys literally was hated by them because he was

626
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: the anti Kardashian.

627
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: He called out the bullshit.

628
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: And the integrity. He had integrity. He's a church going

629
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: man who had integrity, and his God wouldn't let him

630
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 3: serve someone else. I'm not even super Christian, and I

631
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: saw that. I was like, no, he's too god fearing.

632
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: That's not gonna work. The deals you have to make.

633
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: You can't go to church on Sunday after that. I'm

634
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: not saying they're bad people. I still live for the

635
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: glamour of it all, but there's a little bit of

636
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: soul crushing concessions that have to be made to be

637
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: part of that machine. And it's also a toxic matriarch.

638
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 3: We talk about toxic patriarchs all the time, but I

639
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: said previously, because the original Robert Kardashian left, the women

640
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 3: Quist took over, right, and there's a toxic matriarch system

641
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: where the women are actually the ones who are the

642
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 3: power structure and the men are the accessories. It's almost

643
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 3: like a flip of regular society. And so, yeah, what happens.

644
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: Usually if we flip the genders, we would totally understand it.

645
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 3: That's what's crazy. If the Kardashians were men, and these

646
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: dating people, these lovers, these coming in and out folks,

647
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 3: were women, who would totally see it as clear as day.

648
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 3: And because the genders are switched, it's harder and more covert.

649
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: Because we don't think of women as being that that conniving,

650
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: that strategic, that power hungry, all the things that we

651
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 3: associate with men. These women are learning from Chris, and

652
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: so it's harder for us to pinpoint it and easier

653
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: for us to see it as endearing.

654
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: I'm blown away by all of this. I'm fascinated as well.

655
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: And that also explains that the Bruce Jenner transitioning into

656
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: into Caitlin. Mind you, he felt this. Bruce at the

657
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: time felt this way prior to being married to Chris,

658
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: but to your point when you are the matriarch of

659
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: this institution, yep, right, and you're raising these women to

660
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: follow orders because of the money and the and the

661
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: amount of access that you have.

662
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: And I'm with you. I love them.

663
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: It's great television. I love the glamor of the access

664
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 2: and the hustle bustle. But one thing that you and

665
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: I do in this podcast is we take it from

666
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: a psychological standpoint. And I think about that, and I

667
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: think about the many men who have calm and gone

668
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: and how I literally and I want you to help

669
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: me because I may be wrong. I don't know a

670
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: man that has been a part of that infrastructure that

671
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: has come out of it unscathed.

672
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the one who did is very annoyed with them, right,

673
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: Chris is very annoyed. Steve what's his name, the one

674
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: from sen now can forget Pete, Steve Simeons. Pete was

675
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: a free bird, so he was a wildcard to begin with.

676
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: He wasn't part of the game plan. Kim did not

677
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: expect to be so charmed by him. You could tell

678
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, we got work them into the

679
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: script now because we didn't expect this. So it's It's

680
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,959
Speaker 3: interesting that the two men who made it out. One

681
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 3: is such a wildcard. It was impossible for you to

682
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: cajun down the other one so god fearing he couldn't

683
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: stomach it. Yeay, who understands the machine? If you talk

684
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: to him, or if you heard him talk after he left,

685
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: some of the stuff he's saying in the middle of

686
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 3: those rants is not all wrong. There's a couple of

687
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: times when you'll hear Kanye rant about stuff about the

688
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 3: Kardashians and how they work, where you're like, even though

689
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: I think you're in the middle of an episode, even

690
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 3: a broken clock is right twice a day. So if

691
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 3: you really really think about it, there are some themes

692
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 3: that all the men have in common. Right, But what

693
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 3: happens there is a thing called trauma bonding where the

694
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: very person who abuses you is also the one who

695
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: wants to be your salvation. People use that word in correctly.

696
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: Trauma bonding is not bonding about a bad boyfriend in

697
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 3: the bathroom at a club. So, because there's so much

698
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: trauma bonding happening with these women where they are taking

699
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 3: advantage of you but then also being your nurture and

700
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: your savior. When she hits the fan. It makes it

701
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 3: really tricky for you to get out because you're like, damn,

702
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a part of this. But

703
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: I'm in a position now where this is all I

704
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: have left.

705
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: This is all I have left, and this is all

706
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: I know, And it takes me when I say to you, Blue,

707
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: you are.

708
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: A bad bit.

709
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 2: One thing that I just thought about is Robert Kardashian

710
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: Senior and how And I don't know if a lot

711
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: of people know this. Yes, they know that that Chris

712
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: had an affair on Robert, but I don't think a

713
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: lot of people know this. Robert Kardashian Senior hired a

714
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: private investigator to snoop on Chris because he was suspecting

715
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: that something wasn't wasn't right in terms of their marriage.

716
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: He discovered that Chris was cheating on him with a

717
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: with a young person. He the guy was much younger,

718
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: like in his twenties. I think a soccer player, soccer

719
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: not soccer player, soccer coach, tennis coach, one of those things.

720
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: And it took Robert Kardashian Senior, a powerful man, a

721
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 2: powerful attorney, to know that my wife cheating on me

722
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 2: once and.

723
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: He divorced her immediately.

724
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: And I always thought that was interesting, like, well, why

725
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: did he make it work? Like, Okay, she made a mistake.

726
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: She made a mistake. Based on this conversation I'm having

727
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: with you, I think Robert knew you cheating on me

728
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with with with a sex thing.

729
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: It was a power move, exactly. It was a power move.

730
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 2: And I think I don't know what Robert discovered in

731
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: that private investigation, but I think Robert discovered that this woman,

732
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: to your point, Blue, you're so smart, this woman plays

733
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: like the big boys that I that I am in

734
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: the country club with, that I go golfing with, that

735
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: I'm in the courtroom with. I think he was so

736
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: disturbed that who he thought was like this susie homemaker.

737
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that took care of all the kids. Had enough,

738
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: had enough?

739
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: Ooh, she was so secretive and got away with it,

740
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 2: and she was so maniacal. She did everything that I

741
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: know men do that I think in his heart of hearts,

742
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: I could never trust her again.

743
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: He knows he's a lawyer, he knows an adversary when

744
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: he sees one. And let's be honest, the girls have

745
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: hinted at this for years they have. They always say

746
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: that our dad was such a good man, but they

747
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: got left with the conniving one when he passed, and

748
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: she groomed them and made them successful and made all

749
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: their dreams come true. They were the original prototype what

750
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: they're doing to the men Chris to them, I'm the

751
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 3: only thing you got that is gone right, and I

752
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: have the keys of the kingdom. You're coming or not.

753
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: And they're now giving that same speech. It's like Mary Kay,

754
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: It's like an mllll skiing the same thing she did

755
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: to them, they're now doing to other people in a

756
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,919
Speaker 3: weird way. I feel bad for the whole ecosystem because

757
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: the head of the snake is really Chris And I'm

758
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: impressed by her because I like strategy. Like strategically speaking,

759
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 3: she's brilliant, right, She's probably one of the most brilliant.

760
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: We always joke Jenner is a brilliant mastermind, but I

761
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 3: don't think people sit with it because she's still a woman.

762
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: I don't think people really sit with how much of

763
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 3: a mastermind she is.

764
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: Chris Jenner. In my opinion, you can call me on this.

765
00:40:55,080 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: Chris Jenner is the most brilliant person of the twenty

766
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: first century.

767
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: Not not.

768
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: Steve Jobs, not Jeff Bezos, not Elon Musk, not Bill Gates.

769
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: You are right, Blue, the reason why.

770
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 2: Chris Jenner will go down in history as the most

771
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,760
Speaker 2: brilliant person because I'm with you, if she had a penis,

772
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: we would be heralding her on covers of magazines and worshiping.

773
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: Her the way they do these men.

774
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: Chris Jenner is the most brilliant, whether you call it evil,

775
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 2: brilliant or not. She is so brilliant because this woman

776
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 2: with no college education. Let's talk about it. Because most

777
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: of the men that I named went to college and

778
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: have a degree. This woman with no college education single

779
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: handedly took her daughters, okay and created a multi billion

780
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 2: dollar industry to the point where when when when Bruce

781
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: Jenner at the time he was Bruce, When Bruce Jenner

782
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: went to E and said, I want I'm transitioning into

783
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: Caitlyn to a woman, and I want to do a show,

784
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: and the hit of E said, Okay, I have to

785
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: talk to Chris first, yep. And And what that meant, guys,

786
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 2: is the had of the network. E, all of E

787
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 2: could not make a decision about that show without getting

788
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: Chris's approval, So Caitlyn's show.

789
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: That lasted I think one or two seasons at the most.

790
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: It was weird. It was weird show. I tried to

791
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 3: watch it.

792
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: It was not good at all. Chris had to approve it.

793
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: Black China Rob Show was pitched from Black China's attorney, allegedly,

794
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 2: and when they brought it to E, E called Chris

795
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 2: and said, just so you know, we're being pitched as

796
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: black and tying a rob show, And all of a sudden,

797
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: Chris Jenna was the EP along with the sisters. So

798
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 2: we don't talk about how this woman who was a

799
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 2: housewife took her children and made them billionaires. And one

800
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: thing she said on this season was she looks at

801
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: her kids and she wonders sometimes if she made a

802
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: mistake because they're not happy.

803
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah. Ah. The thing about Chris is I feel people

804
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 3: are like, well, you must hate her. No, I actually

805
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 3: feel neutral because my shock and awe and mild disdain

806
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 3: for the lack of morality and some of it is

807
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: like a counterbalance by how deeply impressed I am by

808
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 3: the brilliance. And I don't know if that says about me,

809
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 3: like I'm always gonna in some way clap for talent

810
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: regardless of how it's being used. And I do think

811
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 3: that she was the original prototype. She pulled it off.

812
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 3: Kim was her two point zero, Kylie was her three

813
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 3: point zero. Courtney and Chloe, they just are the mezzanine

814
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: level they play around with that Rob we didn't even

815
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 3: need him because I'm making it in my image. You

816
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 3: know how God made Jesus in his image. It feels

817
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 3: very much like that. It's a God complex. Chris Jenna's

818
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: legacy is forever, forever steeped in history because she's made

819
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: several iterations of herself and spread them out globally with

820
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 3: minimal talent. These girls are learning on the job. Working

821
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: hard and being talented are not the same thing.

822
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: They're learning on the job.

823
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: They're failing upwards. Usually only men can help their children

824
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: fill upwards. Chris Jenner cracked patriarchy. Guys like it's a

825
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: big deal. But because she's a woman, nobody's talking about it.

826
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

827
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: So poor Tristan, poor mumble mouthed high booty Tristan never

828
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: saw a chance and that's why he's on the pology

829
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: to a full circle.

830
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: Okay, so I have to invite you back because we're

831
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: going I.

832
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: Didn't know that at the end of this episode it

833
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: would be the it would be you and I cracking

834
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 2: the cold of Chris Jenner.

835
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: All roads leads back to Chris Jenner.

836
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 2: You and I need to do a future episode on

837
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: the mind of Chris Jenner because I'm with you. I'm fascinated,

838
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: like beyond fascinated by what she's cultivated, and I'm with you.

839
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't hate Chris. I don't hate the Kardashians. I

840
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: actually love them. Every powerful person in the world they

841
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: have something interesting about them that you either love or hate.

842
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: Right, it is what it is.

843
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: No powerful person becomes powerful because they always play nice

844
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: in the sandbox. That is just it doesn't work out

845
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 2: that way, right, It just doesn't.

846
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 3: Power requires concessions to be made. It's impossible to be

847
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: powered without making concessions. And power is polarizing. So you

848
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 3: know you're powerful when you've had to make some deals

849
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: that made you have to hold your breath a little bit,

850
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 3: and some people love you, peopleho hate you. That's power.

851
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: If everybody likes you, you're not powerful. You're power with

852
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: the water girl, Like, that's not how it works.

853
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: If everybody likes you. You're not powerful. You are the

854
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: water girl.

855
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,479
Speaker 3: Crunching a thirst and being powerful two very different things.

856
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: Blue.

857
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 2: Okay, so rain drops tweet Blue an eye and let

858
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: us know if you want us to dedicate an episode

859
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: to the mind of Chris Jenner, where she and I

860
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: will do a deep dive from her childhood to now

861
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: because every step she has taken, like Blue has intimated,

862
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: has worked because they learned on the job, and they

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Speaker 2: filled up in some cases. Because we'll get into this

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Speaker 2: credit card that they had.

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Speaker 3: That was.

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Speaker 1: That's a whole other episode.

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Speaker 2: Say, Baby Blue, this was another genius episode brought by you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gagging. I'mnav to sit on this for a second.

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Speaker 2: But us and for all, let the world know where

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Speaker 2: they can find you, follow you and support you, my love.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, first thing is my good is telling me

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Speaker 3: the Chris Janner episode should come after the finale because

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Speaker 3: we want to see her endgame for this season. Job.

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Speaker 3: I need to see the board mapped out so I

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Speaker 3: can see, so where did she take us this season?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Because mother has a story arc, you know, she has

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Speaker 3: a grand finale for us, and I can't wait to

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Speaker 3: see what that is. I'm nervous. If you guys want

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Speaker 3: to find me, you can find me at Blue Centric.

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Speaker 3: I'm an emotional intelligence coach. So there's a link on

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Speaker 3: a Blue Centric on Instagram and Twitter and at blueslusemo

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Speaker 3: on TikTok where you can sign up with me to

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Speaker 3: take emotional intelligence classes. Because what I'm doing with Carlos

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Speaker 3: here is a muscle. Everybody can be this emotionally intelligence.

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Speaker 3: It's just takes practice.

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Speaker 2: Please follow her like please, she is a pop culture phenomena.

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Speaker 2: She's highly educated and like she says, she's a coach

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Speaker 2: and she looks at things from a deep psychological standpoint

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Speaker 2: in addition to astrology.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm having a fun girls. Astrology, psychology, emotional intelligence,

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Speaker 3: let's get into it. I like people, I like humanizing people.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, yeah yes.

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Speaker 2: And thank you maryin Josh for listening. You'll catch us

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Speaker 2: next time. I'll see y'all soon.

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