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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on? Happy Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 3: Hope your day is off to a fantastic start. Hope

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Speaker 3: you eat lots of delicious food, enjoy some delicious.

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Speaker 2: Ball if you will.

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Speaker 3: Triple Header looks to be succulent. As Jameis Winston said

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Speaker 3: earlier this week, we'll get to that.

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Speaker 2: We got to close.

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Speaker 3: I normally don't promote what's happening at the end of

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Speaker 3: the show to begin the final hour, but here we are,

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Speaker 3: j Mart, how about this little thanksgiving vibe? What you

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Speaker 3: are thankful for and what you are not thankful for?

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Speaker 3: You know, you could go Sports World and you could go,

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Speaker 3: you know, off the beaten path if you would like.

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe you just feel like it's necessary to

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Speaker 3: say you're thankful for Mountain Dew at the end of

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, I'm not gonna put words

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Speaker 2: in your mouth, but maybe you feel that.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: We'll find out. I'll tell you what. We've got more

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Speaker 3: exercising to do, j Mart. We had our first two

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Speaker 3: choices in terms of who we think will eventually win

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Speaker 3: a national championship in college football. If you had two guesses,

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Speaker 3: who would be your top two picks. You went with Georgia,

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Speaker 3: Ohio State. I went Georgia, Notre Dame. We got to

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Speaker 3: do the same exercise in the NFL here in a

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Speaker 3: couple of minutes, right, But there's one story I wanted

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Speaker 3: to hit on first with you. And it's funny, right,

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Speaker 3: because a lot of times we won't talk about these

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Speaker 3: stories that greatly impact wins and losses because it's just

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Speaker 3: it's not like a sexy story, if you will. It

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Speaker 3: is Frank Ragnow. Yeah, the four time Pro Bowl center

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Speaker 3: of the Lions. He is coming out of retirement and

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Speaker 3: returning to the Lions. That is a huge deal because

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff. You've seen the stats, j Mart like Jared Goff.

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Speaker 3: His numbers when not pressured elite like outstanding. His numbers

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Speaker 3: when pressured, holy hell, like horror film, like, ah, you

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Speaker 3: can't run away from the chainsaw fast enough.

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Speaker 4: You know it's Halloween not Thanksgiving, man.

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Speaker 3: It really right, Yeah, it is the difference in his

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Speaker 3: numbers right there. But to get Frank Ragnow back and

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Speaker 3: to stabilize that interior offensive line and not let pressure,

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Speaker 3: you know, pressure up the middle with an immobile Jared

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Speaker 3: Goff is death and now you get Ragnow back, who

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Speaker 3: is magnificent. That's a big, big deal for the Lions

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Speaker 3: right there.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's gotta be just let's just keep the

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Speaker 5: holiday mochief going. That's an early Christmas present for Jared Goff.

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Speaker 5: That's a guy who needs him and a guy that

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Speaker 5: he trusts and a guy that he knows in Frank Ragnow.

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Speaker 5: And Ragnow said he's coming back because he just he

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Speaker 5: loves the game too much. It was only seven years

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Speaker 5: he had dealt with a lot of injuries. This is

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Speaker 5: a dude, I think we even talked about I think

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Speaker 5: you and I actually have even talked about this.

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Speaker 4: But this man had a fractured threat.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 5: I don't even want to like say that again. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 5: because it sounds so horrifying. He had a fractured throat.

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Speaker 5: Like he's he's dealt with injuries to say the least.

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Speaker 5: He had a peck injury and things like that. But

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Speaker 5: like he's also a warrior and known to be one.

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Speaker 5: Like he plays through a lot, but he's a vet,

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Speaker 5: he's a leader. He's somebody that like it's gonna raise

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Speaker 5: the temperature in that locker room in a positive way,

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Speaker 5: Like it's kind of icy in there right now. This

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Speaker 5: great for Jared Goff, but just an awesome story in general.

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Speaker 5: And look, Frank Ragnow is twenty nine. He's not like

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Speaker 4: And he has taken a beating, but it's just kind of.

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Speaker 5: Like it's a feel good story. He's still got time.

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Speaker 5: He decided he wanted to come back. He's welcome back

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Speaker 5: with open arms. The Lions have him for two years

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Speaker 5: contractually if they want him. So him coming back at

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Speaker 5: If you're rag Now, you get a little deeper in

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Speaker 5: the season many maybe I wasn't done here after all.

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Speaker 5: And he's not coming back to a you know, one

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Speaker 5: in a pretty good situation for him, certainly, but it's

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Speaker 5: a mutually beneficial choice as long as he's healthy enough

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Speaker 5: and he's doing it for the right reasons. It's great

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Speaker 5: one of those kind of uniquely positive stories.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 3: And I guess that's the bigger picture too, is can

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Speaker 3: that could be just complete hearsay. You know, you see

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Speaker 3: NFL field right now. I thought it would happen with Gronk.

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Speaker 3: I really did. The first year that he retired. I

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Speaker 3: He was gonna be there for all seventeen games, but

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Speaker 3: I don't know, like mid November December, get a couple

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Speaker 3: he is for the playoffs. It's not gonna be just

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Speaker 4: Will you?

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Speaker 3: You will see a guy who might still be young,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, is gonna become common?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: Is it gonna become more common? Absolutely, because it's so

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Speaker 5: Because what is Tom Brady but football?

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Speaker 4: Right? Like, yeah, there's.

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Speaker 5: Family, and I'm not trying to throw shite on that,

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Speaker 5: but like Tom Brady was football. That's what he ate

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Speaker 5: he going to do when he doesn't have that. It's

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Speaker 4: They have no idea what that's going to look like.

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Speaker 5: So you leave because yeah, the run up to the

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Speaker 5: But again, you get away from the game long enough

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Speaker 4: That's the difference.

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Speaker 5: I don't need to, but I want to, and some

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Speaker 5: down the road. But if you make that decision with

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Speaker 5: just because it will almost inevitably happen more often because

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because you go back. This is pretty

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Speaker 3: It's like that's different than this, you know, like Frank

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Speaker 3: It's a real thing. You can't just come off the

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Speaker 2: But if anybody can do it, it's Frank rag Now.

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Speaker 3: I just think that's pretty interesting to see if this

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Speaker 3: it has. I could absolutely see that happening.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's not a again. It's not a bad thing,

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Speaker 5: I think the only thing that you don't want to start

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Speaker 4: Like it's very.

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Speaker 5: Easy when you're battered to walk away and say I

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Speaker 5: can't my body can't handle this anymore. Then you get

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Speaker 5: to let's look, it's November twenty seventh. You say, man,

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Speaker 5: you know, I'm feeling pretty good because you finally have

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Speaker 5: Your body has literally been able to be at rest.

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Speaker 5: Like I guess to whatever degree that you are not

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Speaker 4: Kind of paces again.

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Speaker 3: But you guys are all full go, you know what

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Speaker 5: People really hate it, right because it seems to go

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Speaker 5: You know, just maybe maybe his knees not feel one

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Speaker 5: It's just not a thing. It wasn't the mentality, and

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Speaker 5: I think some guys are I'm not even calling injury

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Speaker 4: It's been unlucky, and that sometimes happens.

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Speaker 5: And I think it will continue to happen, but I

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Speaker 5: because like Joe Burrow looks at his team and he says, guys,

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying this year you played like bombs. So

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Speaker 5: I am our future. And so we're gonna worry about

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Speaker 5: next year. And so I'm gonna root you guys on

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Speaker 5: Spare me the changing landscape. Miss me with all of that,

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Speaker 5: because the truth of the matter is the guys that

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Speaker 5: it just from that perspective, but even past that, heels

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Speaker 5: You just hear right there. I love football I knew

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great way to say it.

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Speaker 3: And really we don't have a SoundBite of you know,

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Speaker 3: load management SoundBite would be like. It'd be something like this,

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Speaker 3: where it'd be like, well, you know, it's a it's

439
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Speaker 3: an eighty two game season. If I can take multiple

440
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Speaker 3: nights off and kind of like keep my body healthy

441
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Speaker 3: not only for the playoffs, but for.

442
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Speaker 2: More years, I can earn more money.

443
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Speaker 3: And you just hear a bunch of I I me, me,

444
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Speaker 3: my my.

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Speaker 5: It's like you remember Zion, You remember Zion saying like

446
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 5: Desion people were like, why is he not playing? And

447
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 5: he said something like I just gotta He's like, yeah,

448
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Speaker 5: I mean I'm feeling pretty good, but I just want

449
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Speaker 5: to start feeling like Zion again. He said something like that,

450
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Speaker 5: And it's just kind of like what what exactly does

451
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Speaker 5: that mean?

452
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Speaker 4: Like what? What? What is our scale that we.

453
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Speaker 5: Are as fans or as media or as people to

454
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Speaker 5: consume this, Like what what Zion?

455
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Speaker 4: What exactly do you say you do here? Pal?

456
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, it's the look man, the load management thing,

457
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 3: or the hey, I'm just gonna shut it down and

458
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 3: gear up for next year.

459
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Speaker 2: That's all about you. That's really what it is.

460
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Speaker 3: You could try to spin it and be like, no,

461
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 3: it's it's still about the team.

462
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Speaker 2: It's a measured approach. No, no, No, it's about you.

463
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 3: It's about earning more money, playing more years, playing longer.

464
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: It's about you. That's what load management is about. Like

465
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Speaker 3: what Joe Burrows explaining is about more than just him.

466
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Speaker 3: That's about the team. That's about commitment to competing, to

467
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Speaker 3: being a professional, to try to be the face of

468
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Speaker 3: the franchise.

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Speaker 2: That's beyond him.

470
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Speaker 3: He was to get out there to be there for

471
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Speaker 3: his guys as well, and so I respect it man,

472
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Speaker 3: and I respect the Bengals allowing him to do it

473
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Speaker 3: because I think that's how you build. I don't think

474
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Speaker 3: that's said. He won't be in the playoffs this year. No,

475
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Speaker 3: he won't. He absolutely won't. And there are plenty of

476
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Speaker 3: That's why I find this so fascinating. There are plenty

477
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Speaker 3: of people that will hear us agreeing we're on the

478
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Speaker 3: same page, and they're.

479
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Speaker 4: Like, you're crazy.

480
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Speaker 2: What does it do? What does it accomplish? Exactly? I

481
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Speaker 2: just you can't.

482
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Speaker 3: You go back to the remember the seven Giant and

483
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: they went on that run, the wild card run, and

484
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Speaker 3: they eventually beat the undefeated Patriots. They could have shut

485
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Speaker 3: it down the final game of the regular season. There

486
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Speaker 3: was nothing to gain in terms of playoff seating. Whether

487
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Speaker 3: they made the playoffs or not. They didn't move up

488
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Speaker 3: or down. Nothing was gained in terms of that. They

489
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Speaker 3: only were like, quote unquote risking injury. But they went

490
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Speaker 3: out there at home and they tried to ruin the

491
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Speaker 3: Patriots perfect season, and they battled them and they only

492
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Speaker 3: lost by a field goal, and that was a big,

493
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Speaker 3: big deal for them. When they eventually met in the

494
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl and Tom Coughlin was explaining that.

495
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Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, this hole.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're full go now, but now we're gonna shut

497
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Speaker 3: it down here.

498
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Speaker 2: But now we're full go again. He's like, that doesn't really.

499
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Speaker 4: Work for me. You know.

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Speaker 3: That's the truth with football, this idea of just shifting

501
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: gears and yeah, we're gonna throttle down to first gear

502
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Speaker 3: now the end of this like twenty TI twenty five

503
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: bangle season. But man, we're fifth gear come week one

504
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: next year. Man, baby, we're smoking out of the gates.

505
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Speaker 3: It's like, no, man, it doesn't work like that. You

506
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 3: gotta be grinding. I believe the whole time. Some people

507
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Speaker 3: disagree with that, but I think football is a grinding sport.

508
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 3: You got to grind it out. If you don't embrace that, man,

509
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: you're gonna get swallowed up by the rest of the league.

510
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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I me think it's right.

511
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Speaker 5: I think that many cases, as a matter of fact,

512
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Speaker 5: when you overprotect, you actually make yourself more vulnerable. Yeah,

513
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 5: that's the other thing. Here's another pro wrestling analogy for you.

514
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Speaker 5: The times that guys get hurt the most are when

515
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 5: they're pulling their punches, not when they're making contact. When

516
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 5: guys are actually laying in their stuff, and it's what's

517
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Speaker 5: called tight as opposed to being too loose and all

518
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. Like when you're throwing air punches

519
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 5: trying to kind of half speed it. That's when you

520
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 5: you know, throw a shoulder out or do something like that.

521
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 4: Usually like yeah, you're gonna get a.

522
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Speaker 5: Black eye or whatever when you're making contact. But there's

523
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Speaker 5: something realistic there. As an athlete, you've trained your whole

524
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Speaker 5: life without load management, Like you've trained your entire life since.

525
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Speaker 4: You were a kid. You've been on the field.

526
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Speaker 5: Practice, practice, practice, practice, film room, all this other kind

527
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Speaker 5: of stuff.

528
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Speaker 4: There hasn't been.

529
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Speaker 5: A whole lot of off seasons, There hasn't been a

530
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Speaker 5: lot of specialized training and all this other kind of

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Speaker 5: stuff that's been going on. Now you are telling your

532
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Speaker 5: body that you have gotten, you know, very familiar with

533
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Speaker 5: over time, that now we're going to start taking care

534
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 5: and for two days you're going to be off, and

535
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Speaker 5: then you're gonna be on for this and then you're

536
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 5: gonna be off for this month. But then you're gonna

537
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 5: come back and flip the switch and everything's going to change.

538
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Speaker 5: Why then, should we be shocked when the body doesn't

539
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 5: know how to react anymore. Yeah, and you find yourself

540
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 5: more injured than you were before. Like when you try

541
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 5: to wrap yourself in bubble wrap, you can still fall

542
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Speaker 5: off a roof.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's well said.

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Speaker 3: I'll add to it, maybe just like whip cream or

545
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Speaker 3: cherry on top. I'm not sure either. Maybe hopefully, But

546
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Speaker 3: that's what I've thought with the NBA for so long.

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Speaker 2: Just a quick point. I do want to make this

548
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Speaker 2: an NBA thing because this is a day of.

549
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Speaker 4: Ball, you know.

550
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Speaker 3: But like I've always thought about, load management is sort

551
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: of like a treadmill. Like think of the regular season

552
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Speaker 3: as a treadmill, and we're not going on this steep

553
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: incline like it's the regular season. We're pacing ourselves a

554
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: little bit, right, it's not playoff intensity for eighty two games.

555
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Speaker 3: So the treadmills at a good speed and a very

556
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Speaker 3: slight incline.

557
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Speaker 2: So if you're you're.

558
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Speaker 3: Playing game in game out right like slight incline, like

559
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Speaker 3: decent speed, you're gonna be in a better spot when

560
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Speaker 3: you ramp it up and all of a sudden, the

561
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: speed is faster, the incline is much higher, and it's

562
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Speaker 3: playoff time, baby.

563
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Speaker 2: It's like when you're.

564
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Speaker 3: Taking day after day off to try to stay healthier

565
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Speaker 3: and you're not conditioning your body for that grind, and

566
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Speaker 3: now you're going to try to just ramp it up

567
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: while taking all those nights off. I just don't think

568
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Speaker 3: it works as well as so many people think it does.

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Speaker 3: It's like there's so many people that think there's no

570
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Speaker 3: downside to load management whatsoever. I just have never bought that.

571
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Speaker 3: You can't sell me on there's no downside. It's only

572
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: it's all good, all across the board. It's just not

573
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: it's silly.

574
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Speaker 5: And also just does it It doesn't breed I don't

575
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 5: think it breeds competitiveness in your mind, that's right.

576
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Speaker 4: Like I feel like to be a competitor, you can't

577
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 4: shut it off. Like to be a.

578
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 5: True competitor at the elite level, you almost have.

579
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Speaker 4: To be obsessive to that degree.

580
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Speaker 5: And I think that that's what you're getting from Burrow

581
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Speaker 5: and what he's saying there. And that's why, for example,

582
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Speaker 5: like a guy like a Tom Brady, that's why he

583
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 5: found such success because the competition couldn't shut off, Like

584
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 5: he didn't know how to shut it off. Michael Jordan

585
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 5: in the regular season. Couldn't shut it off guys like that. Like,

586
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Speaker 5: I think that's that's why when I hear Burrow say this,

587
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Speaker 5: I say, yeah, you know what, I'm still worried about

588
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 5: his health. I'm all, he's going to be worried about

589
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 5: his health because it's just dogged him his whole career.

590
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 5: But at the same time, man, I want that to

591
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 5: be my quarterback, Like I want my quarterback to have

592
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 5: that mentality and go out there. I'd rather you ramp

593
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 5: it up and maybe get hurt and knock out a

594
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: couple of weeks here and there, as opposed to always

595
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 5: being up and down and your body you just never

596
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 5: being able to trust your body and your body not

597
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Speaker 5: being able to trust you.

598
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you.

599
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 3: Okay, we've got more exercising to do. Right here is

600
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: a good segue. Right, We're just talking about pretty.

601
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Speaker 2: Good none load management and embracing the line.

602
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 4: Right.

603
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's okay. So we're looking at the NFL. So

604
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 3: let's go. Let's go AFC first. If I gave you

605
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 3: two stabs at figuring out who's coming out of the

606
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Speaker 3: AFC and who you're pinpointing to possibly win a championship

607
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: this season. Who's your first pick, who's your second pick?

608
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: If you get two shots at this.

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Speaker 5: J Martin Man, I can't believe this, like because I

610
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: look at it and I want to make arguments.

611
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Speaker 2: It's hard, is not so hard?

612
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Speaker 4: Bills in Chiefs man.

613
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: Bills in Chiefs?

614
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Speaker 5: Honestly yes, like yes, I know the Bills are flawed

615
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 5: in terms of what they've done in the regular season.

616
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Speaker 4: I said this before the year, I said it on

617
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Speaker 4: I said it after they lost their last game.

618
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Speaker 5: I don't care whether they I didn't care about their

619
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Speaker 5: regular season. They could go undefeated, wasn't gonna change my opinion.

620
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Speaker 5: They are made or broken by what they do in

621
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Speaker 5: January period doesn't matter. I don't care what their record

622
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Speaker 5: is now. I don't care that they've played up to

623
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Speaker 5: this team, down to this team, or whatever else. I'm

624
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Speaker 5: not getting caught up in it. If I said I

625
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 5: didn't care if they went undefeated, then I'm also not

626
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: gonna be you know, sky is falling Chicken little because

627
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 5: they're you know, they've lost four games during the regular season.

628
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Speaker 5: I can't Josh Allen is still an alien, and I

629
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Speaker 5: know what they're capable of based on their talent. If

630
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 5: it all comes together for them, I see less flaws

631
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 5: in them than I do in some of the I

632
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 5: could poke holes in every roster.

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Speaker 4: And then when it comes to the Chiefs week to

634
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Speaker 4: week out.

635
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Speaker 5: I said off the start of the show, I didn't

636
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 5: know what Chiefs team we were gonna get. But truth is,

637
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 5: I do know what Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes have

638
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 5: done in the playoffs. I've seen it over and over

639
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 5: and over again. Outside of the Joe Burrow led Cincinnati team,

640
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 5: nobody's been able to do anything to that team in ages.

641
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 5: So why am I going to look at Baltimore the

642
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 5: way they've played this year? Or I think the Patriots

643
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: are still a couple of years away, but they're certainly

644
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 5: building something really impressive down there. Anybody else Houston's offense, no,

645
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 5: I don't trust them. I'm a Denver Broncos fan. You

646
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 5: know this, Brian, but I don't trust our offense. I

647
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 5: don't trust bo Nicks in that scenario right now. And

648
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 5: the Chargers they still feel like the Chargers to me

649
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 5: that they felt like for the last five years. So

650
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 5: if you ask me, I gotta go with the two

651
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 5: most obvious choices being the Bills and New Chiefs. Still,

652
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 5: even if I don't feel great about either one of.

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Speaker 3: Them, you know what, you might be right about the Patriots,

654
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Speaker 3: but I'm gonna go Patriots Chiefs. Those are my two

655
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Speaker 3: choices coming out of the AFC. The reason I love

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Speaker 3: the Patriots is because they're ten and two.

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Speaker 2: They got a shot to be the one seed.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the dude, if you're the one seed, you got

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Speaker 3: to win two games, two home games, and you're in

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Speaker 3: the ball. You're in the super Bowl. Baby. They they're

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Speaker 3: capable of doing it. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 3: it's very fashionable to oh, they beat this team. They've

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Speaker 3: got the first pick right now, they beat this day,

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Speaker 3: they have the second pick right now, this team has

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Speaker 3: a third pick. They beat all these bum teams. I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you, they have beaten who aren't bum teams. They

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Speaker 3: beat the Bills on the road. They beat Tampa on

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Speaker 3: the road before Tampa's dropped a couple of games in

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Speaker 3: a row because they've been ravaged by injuries. Those are

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Speaker 3: two quality wins. You have a good defense, you have

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Speaker 3: a very good head coach, and you've got an MVP

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Speaker 3: candidate as your quarterback. Like you got a lot to

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Speaker 3: work with right there. So I like the Patriots quite

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Speaker 3: a bit, and for all the reasons you mentioned With

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs, it's partially trust in them that they get

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Speaker 3: it going and partly a lack of trust with the

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Speaker 3: rest of the field. So I would go with Pats

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Speaker 3: Chiefs right there. How about the NFC? Who are your

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Speaker 3: top two choices to come out of the NFC?

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Speaker 5: Hard not to say the Rams right now? So I

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Speaker 5: think the Rams are probably number one.

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Speaker 4: For me at this stage.

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Speaker 5: And look, I went Lions Ravens to open the season.

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Speaker 5: I think this rag now thing matters. I'm gonna stick

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Speaker 5: with Detroit being number two for me. So I got

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Speaker 5: Rams in Detroit.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 5: There's just there's some other there's some things I don't

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Speaker 5: like about almost everybody else.

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Speaker 4: That I could make an argument for right here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair, that's exactly who I have. I think the

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Speaker 3: Rams are the real deal. They're very balanced man offense, defense,

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Speaker 3: top five in both. They're fantastic man, and I've got

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Speaker 3: the Lions. I think the Bears are total frauds man,

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Speaker 3: total frazy. They've beaten nobody. They've had five comeback wins

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Speaker 3: when trailing like double digits in the fourth quar that

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Speaker 3: come on that's just not built to last whatsoever. And

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Speaker 3: who they've come back against, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's not like they're coming back against good teams. They're

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Speaker 3: coming back against bum teams. What happens when they get

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Speaker 3: down against good teams? Here, I don't buy the Bears

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Speaker 3: at all. So I think they're gonna slide and that

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Speaker 3: gives the Lions opportunity to move up in the standings.

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Speaker 3: And I just think they're battle tested.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: That the road schedule this year was murderers row for

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Speaker 3: the Lions, and that can actually help them come playoff time.

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Speaker 3: Not a big Jared Goff guy, that's the drawback. But

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Speaker 3: maybe ragnow coming back, like you said, that can help

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Speaker 3: lessen some pressure, you know with pass rushes getting in

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Speaker 3: his face. And I can see the Lions being a

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Speaker 3: very tough out come playoff time.

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 3: How about that feels good to exercise a little bit here,

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Speaker 3: Hunt Jams.

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Speaker 5: It does very good, Yes it does, because we're going

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Speaker 5: to have to, you know, expand our belt size.

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Speaker 2: That's absolutely right, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: pop up at the top of your screen. All right,

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Speaker 3: coming up next on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.

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Speaker 3: He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian. No, we're filling in for

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Speaker 3: the guys what we're thankful for and what we're not

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Speaker 3: thankful for on this Thanksgiving holiday.

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Speaker 2: We will get to that right around the corner. Keep

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Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jason Martin. I'm Brian.

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 3: We're in for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe

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Speaker 3: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. All right, Jay Martin,

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Speaker 3: I thought it would be fun. Right, we're feeling fest

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Speaker 3: today on a Thanksgiving Thursday. What are you thankful for

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Speaker 3: in the sports world or beyond? What are you not

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Speaker 3: thankful for so I'll start us off here so there's

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Speaker 3: plenty of time. I am thankful for the good impression

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Speaker 3: from our producer, Patty Sweeka of steven A.

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Speaker 2: Smith.

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Speaker 3: I am probably more thankful for the hideous impression he

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Speaker 3: does of Colin Powhard.

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Speaker 2: All right, are you buckled in? Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 4: I've been waiting for this the whole show.

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Speaker 2: All right, Wait here we go now, Patty, Yes, hit

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Speaker 2: us with the stephen A. Just give a little taste,

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Speaker 2: all right, all.

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Speaker 9: Right, right, so this will be like steven A talking

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Speaker 9: to Lebron when they were having that beef about the

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Speaker 9: whole Bronnie thing, right, so like stop it.

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Speaker 4: I just want you.

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Speaker 9: Right now, stop it. I was having a conversation wait,

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Speaker 9: Lebron James, not as a basketball player, but as a

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Speaker 9: father who is very concerned about his son, Bronnie James

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Speaker 9: with the camera on me.

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Speaker 2: See now that that is really good. It's really good.

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Speaker 3: Now, Jason, with that in mind, how can you explain

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Speaker 3: how hideous this Colin coward impression is from Patty? You

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Speaker 3: take it away, Patty, let us let us hear it.

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Speaker 10: Now you're seeing I'm with j J. Mart here and

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Speaker 10: Brian No, I'm calling coward, and we got J Mack

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Speaker 10: with the news, we got J Mart with just over

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Speaker 10: here too, and we got Brian No two pros and

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Speaker 10: a cup of No.

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Speaker 5: That's what that's what the show is, right, Yeah, that

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Speaker 5: is indeed correct. That sounded like Ross Perrot.

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Speaker 4: It does and you kept with a rhyme. I like that.

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Speaker 4: Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, it's I'm thankful for both.

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Speaker 3: I really am. Great job with Stephen a. Not not

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Speaker 3: great at all with thank you Coward, but very entertaining

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Speaker 3: both ways. All right, J Mart, anything on your list

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Speaker 3: and I you're thankful for or not thankful for?

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Speaker 5: Well man, thankful for football obviously, if we're just sticking

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Speaker 5: from the sports side, I'm thankful for, uh, just the

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Speaker 5: great slate of games that we're all gonna have and

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Speaker 5: some you know, we're gonna get some clarity here in

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Speaker 5: this next few days and that's gonna be nice. I'm

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Speaker 5: thankful for the I'm thankful this year. One other sports

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Speaker 5: thing I'll say is I'm thankful this year that I've

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Speaker 5: discovered and just kind of become a.

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Speaker 4: Big F one fan. I've really enjoyed it all year.

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Speaker 5: And we got two more races this season, and the

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00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 5: championship has gotten very interesting and just it wasn't because

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Speaker 5: the movie is because another friend of mine had jumped

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Speaker 5: into a years ago and for whatever reason, I said,

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Speaker 5: you know, I don't cover this, let me just watch it.

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Speaker 4: And I started watching it just became something I loved.

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Speaker 5: And you kind of had that same experience this summer

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Speaker 5: with the w NBA.

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Speaker 3: If I'm not the last two years, but I've been

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Speaker 3: all in with that frequently.

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Speaker 4: Good for you, better you than me. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I would say those two are just kind of on

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Speaker 4: the on the sports side.

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Speaker 5: And then certainly you know, my uh my beautiful wife

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Speaker 5: and two daughters and sharing another Thanksgiving with them today

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00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 5: and all made possible by a by a savior that

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Speaker 5: died so that I could live.

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Speaker 4: Honestly that that's.

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Speaker 5: That's my testimony, and that's what I'm gonna always be

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Speaker 5: most thankful for.

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Speaker 3: Very cool man Well said, that's awesome and it's funny.

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Speaker 3: I checked out the ticket prices for the F one

812
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Speaker 3: race here in Vegas, yeah, and I was like, holy yeah, hell,

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Speaker 3: like what the.

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Speaker 4: I got it? I want to get there, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: the money.

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Speaker 3: If I just robbed the local Chase Bank. That wouldn't

817
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Speaker 3: be an I gotta rob free banks and down.

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Speaker 5: My gosh, what is going on to night hotel in

819
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Speaker 5: Monaco just just two nights?

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Speaker 4: Is ten grand?

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Speaker 2: Wow? That's insane.

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Speaker 3: Man. Well, I'll tell you what I'm thankful for Jameis

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Speaker 3: Winston because he's so much man, he's adding so much

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Speaker 3: entertainment value, so fun. And he was asked about his uh,

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Speaker 3: his favorite thing Thanksgiving dish.

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Speaker 2: Just listen to this answer. Let it wash over you

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Speaker 2: favorite Thanksgiving dish?

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Speaker 6: Man. My wife, man, she makes some kale collar greens.

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Speaker 6: Some she got a little you know, her family from

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Speaker 6: New Orleans, so she she make a nice creole dressing.

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Speaker 6: It's unbelievable. And uh, one of her cousins and aunties

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Speaker 6: she always ship us some gumbo for us to start

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Speaker 6: off the day with some gumbo. So man, it's it's

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Speaker 6: a beautiful thing. Taysom Hill put me on this, on

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Speaker 6: this turkey. I'm not a particular a ham person, but

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Speaker 6: Taysom Heill put me on this Uncle Ray's turkey. They

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Speaker 6: shipped this turkey right to Yo dough. You pop that

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Speaker 6: thing in the oven, and I'm talking of it is suckulent.

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Speaker 6: That thing is juicy. It is spicy. Oh my god,

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Speaker 6: it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: How great is that answer? It's not just the standard.

842
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Speaker 2: I like turkey, you know, a little deep fright turkey.

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Speaker 5: I just love Jameis Winston generally, just like I even said,

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Speaker 5: I send this text to somebody on Sunday during the game.

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Speaker 4: I said, Man, this dude's so fun.

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Speaker 5: His whole career. It's just a blast to watch. She

847
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Speaker 5: just looks like he loves life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm also thankful for cam Ward's honesty, right the Titans

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Speaker 3: quarterback remember this earlier in the year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're keeping a book right now, we ask. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's just the best line of the entire year. I

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Speaker 4: love this, so hilarious. This is so good. When was

854
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Speaker 4: the last time tennessee Warren? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's just tremendous right there, they were going

856
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Speaker 2: through it. They're actually improved.

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Speaker 3: They've played a little bit better lately, and but that's

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Speaker 3: just that's top chef. I'll tell you one thing I'm

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Speaker 3: not thankful for je mart I'm gonna sound a little

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Speaker 3: bit old, but I'm not thankful for constant Steph Curry's

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Speaker 3: shoe updates Okay, he's a shoe free agent. He left

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Speaker 3: under armor, and every day it's he's wearing Jordan's. Tonight,

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Speaker 3: he's wearing some shocks. He's wearing some Halliburtons, he's wearing

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Speaker 3: some Travis Scott's. I don't care, Okay, Happy Thanksgiving,