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Speaker 5: What's up the genernation? Welcome to the New BCS as

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Speaker 5: part of the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. I'm stucky

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Speaker 5: Joining me today Colin Wilson as always and fill in

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Speaker 5: for Brett McMurphy his fellow BBC co host Mike Calabresee.

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Speaker 5: Before we get started here, we always h if you're new.

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Speaker 5: We just with the new BCS, we cover a wide

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Speaker 5: range of some general topics, futures, talk about the weekend

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Speaker 5: that was well, obviously, talks in midweek, maction, and I'll

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Speaker 5: go through some conference updates as far as tiebreakers are concerned,

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Speaker 5: as I did last week. But before we do get

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Speaker 5: to our biggest takeaways from week twelve, Proactive Move Indiana

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Speaker 5: resigned coach Kurt Signetti to a big new contract.

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Speaker 2: Were you awoke?

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Speaker 4: You some big news from Bloomington this morning?

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Speaker 1: You signed a new eight year deal. Congratulations on that.

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Speaker 3: You know, some people say, well, you're gonna be a

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Speaker 3: hot commodity and blah blah blah, And the fact of

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Speaker 3: the matter is we're the emerging superpower in college football.

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Speaker 2: Why would I late.

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Speaker 5: Thoughts on the move. I think it's you know, the

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Speaker 5: time and before the Ohio State game. I think that

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Speaker 5: this is a really good thing for college football. Obviously

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Speaker 5: a really good thing for Indiana. You know, can they

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Speaker 5: sustain their success and become a real player in the

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Speaker 5: Big ten? And Ar's to come and we'll see. You know,

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Speaker 5: they really struggled in the transfer portal. That's hard to sustain.

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Speaker 5: But I think keeping Signetti around is really going to

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Speaker 5: give them a chance. And as far as timing is concerned,

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Speaker 5: I mean, he's done everything anyone could have asked for

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Speaker 5: and more. But you know, as they approach a two

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Speaker 5: touchdown underdog, might as well get the contract signed before

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Speaker 5: that game. Colin thoughts on the move in Bloomington.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see reasons why you would want to

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Speaker 3: sign that Before you have your biggest test of the season,

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Speaker 3: which ultimately you could fail. And for the Action app,

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Speaker 3: I've already made a bet that they will fail. So

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Speaker 3: I mean the timing is good for Signetti. I think

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Speaker 3: there's other things out there too. From an Indiana perspective,

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Speaker 3: Signetti's name is being dropped for every head coaching position

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Speaker 3: that's coming up. I mean, obviously it's you know, pie

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Speaker 3: in the sky, go get Signetti. Not sure if it

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Speaker 3: was actually feasible or probable, or even if Skenetti would leave.

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Speaker 3: He is a different cat that walks to his own

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Speaker 3: walks to his own beat, but his name was popping up.

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Speaker 3: And you know, if one of these blue blood programs

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Speaker 2: We got to get somebody.

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Speaker 3: Signetti has the personality to run a big time blue

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Speaker 3: blood program, and I don't think he'll be in Indiana

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Speaker 2: I think it was really good timing. I think the

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Speaker 2: bigger question for.

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Speaker 3: Indiana is can you continue to draise enough nil money

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Speaker 3: to get some of these players like they did to

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Speaker 1: Sink in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 3: Look at Arkansas in the SEC, more money goes basketball

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Speaker 3: it show up and the results in the standings in Indiana,

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Speaker 3: we'll see are you a basketball school or are you

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Speaker 5: Speaking of the standings, where I haven't looked at a bit,

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Speaker 3: I only count national championships, so we're on the board.

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Speaker 5: Well you're behind in that. Regard to Calvary's thoughts on

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Speaker 4: Say they'd make it to the playoff, they beat Ohio State,

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Speaker 4: that raise it from a fifteen percent chance these days

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Speaker 1: He gets it.

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Speaker 4: He understands that if someone makes him a godfather offer

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Speaker 1: To take it.

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Speaker 4: I think everyone at the table, everyone's adults, including his agent.

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Speaker 4: So they're going to listen to offers. They're going to

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Speaker 4: And honestly, on the other side of it, could this

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Speaker 4: be a year one kind of fluky outcome. Absolutely, But

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Speaker 4: I still think the fan base and all the good

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Speaker 4: four games. You have to try, like already in three

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Speaker 4: short months, he's what the best coach the Hoosiers have

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Speaker 4: I agree with Colin's assessment. It's not just the pure

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Speaker 1: Money that's going into his pocket.

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Speaker 4: How do they have a long term plan put together

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Speaker 4: to bring in these athletes through the portal, keep them

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Speaker 4: hit a home run getting a Curtis Rourke. You know,

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Speaker 4: Big ten. How does everyone react to that? Signetti, the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm on board with it. So I'm happy to

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Speaker 5: have Signetti around for as long as possible. He's great

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Speaker 5: for the game, and as we know, all he does

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Speaker 5: is win. Just google him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty simple.

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Speaker 5: I win, Google me. That's biggest takeaways from Week twelve.

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Speaker 5: I'll say again, there's just no elite team this year.

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Speaker 5: a ton of talent. Are they elite, No, there's no

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Speaker 5: everything is said and done. Calvary, so goodie. What's your

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit shocked.

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Speaker 4: I know that everyone got Colorado fatigue last year, and

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Speaker 4: interesting conversation points would be how much books were taking

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Speaker 4: Football Playoff, And I agree with coach Prime. Getting interviewed

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Speaker 4: after that game, his assertion is that they haven't even

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Speaker 4: played their best football yet. I don't think They've played

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Speaker 4: storyline to me. I understand, the schedule could not have

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Speaker 4: And I think what's interesting, We're gonna learn a lot

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Speaker 4: They end the perfect season for BYU. If Colorado puts

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Speaker 5: But there are other wins in conference are UCF Arizona,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean so, yeah, their depth, they have exceeded

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Speaker 5: But again, there's no like clear elite elite team, so

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Speaker 5: likely there's three teams that control their own destiny. BYU,

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Speaker 3: The bigger takeaway from that game is that Sark likes

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Speaker 3: And for me, there's three teams Kansas, Florida led by

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Speaker 4: If that should probably go to what Nick Nash? He

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Speaker 1: You got to vote.

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Speaker 5: You have to vote for ten choices for that, by

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Speaker 1: Nick Nash was my number one. It was my number one.

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Speaker 2: But you stuck. You have to remember this too.

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Speaker 3: At least I think Brett told us, like at least

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Speaker 5: Or Milroe Milroe's even if you like Alabama to win

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. The Yeah, the SEC for what it's worth.

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Speaker 5: The one exception would be Georgia. Beats Georgia would nudge

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Speaker 2: So you know, do you want to win the time breaker?

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Speaker 1: So this is a rare year that I'm actually well positioned.

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Speaker 4: I put a pizza money on Gensy, pizza money on

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Speaker 4: But then it gives extra importance to that Big Ten

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Speaker 1: If Oregon then needed.

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Speaker 4: him to move past Hunter and Jens Curtis Ork. I agree,

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Speaker 4: I think he has missed five or six quarters this season,

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Speaker 1: If Bryson daily.

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Speaker 4: Scores nine touchdowns in the last two regular season games

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Speaker 4: upsets Notre Dame. Where is he in this mix? I

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Speaker 4: if he gets close to thirty six thirty eight total touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, at two hundred to one, it's

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Speaker 5: By the way, ACC I think guess MU loses this

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Speaker 5: It would be SMU and Miami, but Clemson can get there.

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Speaker 5: They're at Virginia then host Cal So that's the ACC.

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Speaker 5: The American is easy. The American is easy. We know

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Speaker 3: Let's see Lane five to one to make the playoff.

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Speaker 3: I actually do have Boise State power rated ahead of them,

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Speaker 5: Sam Houston, and Liberty. They all control their own destiny,

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Speaker 5: all of them because they all play each other over

436
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Speaker 5: the past two weeks. So even though Liberty is two

437
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 5: games behind Jacksonville State, they play the two teams that

438
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Speaker 5: are they're ahead of them in the standings in Western

439
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Speaker 5: Kentucky and Sam Houston. They beat both of them. They're

440
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Speaker 5: in jack State obviously still undefeated, but they could still

441
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Speaker 5: miss the Conference USA title game. Pretty crazy, I think

442
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 5: so if all of them finished tied at six and

443
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 5: two to be Liberty versus Western Kentucky. So that's that's

444
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Speaker 5: pretty wild. The MAC, you have three teams that control

445
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Speaker 5: their own destiny Ohio, Miami, Ohio, and Bowling Green. Bowling

446
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 5: Green and Mina, Ohio obviously play each other next week.

447
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 5: Here's the thing with Bowling Green. If you have Bowling

448
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 5: Green futures like we do. They lose tie breakers because

449
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 5: of their conference strength of schedule, so if they end

450
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 5: up losing, they just got to live it out. So

451
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 5: they end up losing to like Miyama Ohio and yeah,

452
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 5: say Toledo in Ohio also finished with two losses their conference.

453
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 5: With their conference record, they're going to lose that tie breaker.

454
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 5: You could end up having Miami Ohio, Miami versus Ohio

455
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 5: a rivalry game, or you could have Bowling Green versus Toledo.

456
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 5: So there definitely could see a a rivalry game in

457
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Speaker 5: the MAC. Lots to be determined, but just the Mind

458
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Speaker 5: Ohio Bowling Green game will be huge, although I'm I

459
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 5: think my might lose the Northern Illinois to throw another

460
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 5: wrench into it. In the Mountain West, Colorado State Boise

461
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 5: State is in in the Mountain West Championship. Even if

462
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 5: they lose to Wyoming, Colorado State controls its own destiny

463
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 5: and the only other team that can get there is

464
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Speaker 5: UNLV Colorida State. They're gonna be their dog at president

465
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Speaker 5: this week. If Colorado State and.

466
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Speaker 2: You and we're waiting on injuries, a lot of injury.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if Colorida State wins, if they beat Fresno they're in.

468
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to think what if they tie, but I

469
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Speaker 5: think it comes down to computer ratings.

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Speaker 2: Well, they'd be a nine point favor of Utah State.

471
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Speaker 5: But if they lose, No, I'm saying if they end

472
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Speaker 5: up tied in the standing, so Colorida State loses.

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Speaker 2: It's the BCS formula.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I think it's like a blended. They have

475
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 5: like a blended. Remember this happened last.

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Speaker 2: Year includes the Harris poll.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would assume UNLV would be ahead of Colorado State,

478
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Speaker 5: like if they went out, Colorida State loses this weekend,

479
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Speaker 5: But I don't know. I have to I have to

480
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 5: look at the math that basically last year like determined

481
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Speaker 5: who got home. That was pretty wild. I remember the

482
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Speaker 5: PAC two Washington State has won the back two or

483
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 5: in state stinks even though they play each other. That

484
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 5: this this will I guess determine it. This weekend went

485
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: over the SEC. The sun bell just got very interesting.

486
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 5: I have JMU tickets which now have life, which didn't

487
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 5: look like they would have life because Georgia Southern lost

488
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 5: to Troy and they don't have the head to head

489
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Speaker 5: over Georgia Southern, and now James Madison has to finish

490
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 5: ahead of Georgia Southern, but that certainly can happen looking

491
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Speaker 5: at these schedules. Marshall leads a division, but Marshall is

492
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Speaker 5: at Old Dominion and then at JMU. So if JMU

493
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Speaker 5: can win out and Georgia Southern they're at Coastal, they

494
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 5: could lose that game. Then they host app A lot

495
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Speaker 5: of teams are alive in the East, and then Louisiana

496
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Speaker 5: losing to South Alabama made it a bit more interesting,

497
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Speaker 5: but there's still a game ahead, and they have Troy

498
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 5: at home, and then they're at ULM. They probably get there,

499
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Speaker 5: but they got three teams sitting right behind them, and

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Speaker 5: they don't have the head to head VERU South Alabama.

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Speaker 5: Do you have any Sunbelt thoughts Calvary's Did I get

502
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 5: that all right?

503
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Speaker 1: You got that all rights?

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Speaker 4: I'm just glad that you know, some people are getting healthy,

505
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: like South Alabama is so much more dangerous with GEO

506
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: back in the lineup. So just from a pure watchability standpoint,

507
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Speaker 4: I'm glad that some of the top teams in the

508
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Speaker 4: West are playing at a better level.

509
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Speaker 1: Louisiana is a great story, as is Monroe.

510
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Speaker 4: I think there's some feel good stories about you know,

511
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 4: how these teams have been able to put it together,

512
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 4: and certainly in the portal era, these teams just get

513
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 4: plucked whichever best players heat, you know, first team, second

514
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 4: team All Conference, they usually end up moving up to

515
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Speaker 4: a Power four team.

516
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Speaker 1: So I'm happy for them.

517
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I preseason, I had what Texas State against

518
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: James Madison in the title game. I'll vent next August

519
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: about the bobs, but as of right now, I'm glad

520
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 4: that James Madison can get there, and I would like

521
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 4: to see a national stage for JMU because I think

522
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: what Chesney's been able to do right away has flown

523
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Speaker 4: under the raidar. Really since that upset of North Carolina,

524
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Speaker 4: that's the last time that they've got some notoriety at

525
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Speaker 4: a national level, and I think they deserve it.

526
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Speaker 3: South Alabama that's eleven to one. South Alabama. They already

527
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Speaker 3: hold a tiebreaker over Louisiana. They're going to play Texas

528
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: State to end the season. You know, I eleven to

529
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: one is a good number for I mean, they need

530
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Speaker 3: Louisiana to take a loss.

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Speaker 5: That's going to come against.

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Speaker 1: ULM or Troy, I believe, yeah, or Troy, which I

533
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Speaker 1: mean I think you can muck it up.

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Speaker 4: They're they're born to play that style. Hardy can just

535
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 4: run thirty times, they can try to win seventeen thirteen

536
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 4: or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Crazier things have happened.

538
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Speaker 3: I like South Alabama eleven to one, especially that tiebreaker

539
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 3: over Louisiana and.

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Speaker 5: Can Here there is a path for Arkansas State still, Ah,

541
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 5: there is. It's not a likely one, but there is

542
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Speaker 5: a path. All right, Calbury's before we get to do

543
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 5: you have a did you bring a stumper? I sure did, okay,

544
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 5: but did you have a national champion futures thing you

545
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Speaker 5: wanted to talk about?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, just real quick, if you go to I

547
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 4: believe it's DraftKings, you can the conference affiliation of the

548
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 4: national champion SEC's minus one twenty five, Big Tens plus

549
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 4: one ten And I just rode this up in the post.

550
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Speaker 4: It's gonna come out Tuesday morning. Essentially, there's a pretty

551
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: plausible path where the top four teams of the Big Ten.

552
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Speaker 4: One obviously is going to be a conference champion, going

553
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 4: to get that first round by but the other three

554
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: could all host.

555
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Speaker 1: If Penn State wins out, if Indiana loses.

556
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 4: A close game to Ohio, State they're clearly not going

557
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: to play in the title game, and then the loser

558
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 4: of Ohio State Oregon getting an opportunity to have three

559
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: at large bids that are hosting in that free weather

560
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,239
Speaker 4: in weather exactly having Southern teams come up, you know,

561
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Speaker 4: whether it's a team out of the SEC or a

562
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 4: warm weather acc team that sneaks into the field, I

563
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: think that's an advantageous number. I also like both Oregon

564
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Speaker 4: and Ohio State because, as you mentioned, stuck all of

565
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 4: this it's it's really fun to talk about all the

566
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: scenarios that these teams are going to make it in

567
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Speaker 4: Who has the bullets to win three or four games

568
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Speaker 4: against elite teams. There's not many if we're being on

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Speaker 4: I still think Oregon and Ohio State are on that

570
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 4: short list, so to be able to get both of

571
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Speaker 4: them and then hope for some chaos, because if the

572
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: bracket broke out exactly how I wanted, the Big Ten

573
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 4: champ is number one. Let's say it's the Ducks. The

574
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 4: number five team potentially could be Ohio State or Penn State.

575
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: So that's one side of the bracket, and then you

576
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 4: get Indiana and another.

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00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: Team on the other side. Of the bracket.

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Speaker 4: I really like how that plays out to it at

579
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 4: least get one team to the title game at plus

580
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 4: money at plus one ten in the market, I think

581
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: it's mispriced a little bit. It may not seem like

582
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 4: the sexiest play at plus one ten, but I like

583
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: the groupings of teams, and I like the opportunity for

584
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: them not to have to go on.

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00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: The road at least in the first round to make

586
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Speaker 1: it happen.

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00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there is a chance that the SEC

588
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 5: does get five, so like just from a numbers game perspective,

589
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 5: but I don't hate that bet. Before we move on,

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Speaker 3: It may sound easy, but it will test your head

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Speaker 3: and your mind and your brain too.

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Speaker 2: There I go.

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Speaker 1: I don't claim to be No. Thirty six AC team.

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Speaker 4: Now I just mentioned the chaos that you can potentially

605
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Speaker 4: get on conference championship weekend.

606
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Speaker 1: So let's talk about this.

607
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Speaker 4: You know, dates back to the SEC finding that tiny

608
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Speaker 4: footnote in the NCAA rulebook allowing them to have a

609
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: conference championship game split up their league, you know six

610
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: and six, a twelve team league East and West. So

611
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: dating all the way back to the early nineties when

612
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: the SEC trotted that outs, what are the ten largest

613
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 4: upsets of power conference football on championship weekends? And the

614
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: question I'll pose to both of you, hopefully you can

615
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: pull these out. What has been the largest upset in

616
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Speaker 4: each conference? The ACC, the Big Ten, the Big Twelve,

617
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Speaker 4: the SEC, and we'll throw in the PAC twelve rest

618
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 4: in peace as well.

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Speaker 5: So what is the dates? Again?

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Speaker 4: So this started back in I believe the first one

621
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 4: between Florida and Bama was nineteen ninety two.

622
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Speaker 1: I want to say, yes, nineteen ninety two.

623
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Speaker 4: Then you had the Big Twelve started their conference championship

624
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Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety six. The ACC dates back to the

625
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Speaker 4: mid aughts. You got the Big ten started in twenty eleven,

626
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Speaker 4: I want to say, and the PAC twelve obviously is

627
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 4: now done. They went twenty ten to twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I want to.

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Speaker 4: Say, so in that window, pulling the largest, you know,

630
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: from a point spread perspective, upset on championship weekend in

631
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: each conference. And to give you some extra time, I

632
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 4: think this through. It starts with one conference. The largest

633
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: upset of all time was a six and a half

634
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 4: point upset for the underdog. The largest on the board

635
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: is a twenty point upset.

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Speaker 5: Do you own first year down?

637
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Speaker 3: You can go first, Kansas State beat the Oklahoma team

638
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 3: that I think.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was like they were supposed to win

640
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: the national title then they still slipped into the BCS Championship.

641
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the year Calibrey's, but I'm

642
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: going Kansas City because that was a monster up so

643
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: I think it was like a twelve point underdog.

644
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: So that was two thousand and three.

645
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 4: Case State, in fact, upset Oklahoma as a fourteen point dog.

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Speaker 1: Here's a shocking fact, Colin.

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Speaker 4: That's the third largest upset in the Big Twelve alone.

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Speaker 1: It has been chaos in the Big Twelve.

649
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Speaker 4: They've shot themselves in the foot, basically forcing teams out

650
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 4: that could have played in the BCS Title Game or

651
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: the College Football Playoff in years past.

652
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: Really interesting, that's that's the first one you pulled.

653
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that one. BCS doesn't work. We need

654
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Speaker 2: to go to four teams today.

655
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 5: I'm thinking Big twelve. Well, I don't know what. I

656
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 5: forget what the spread would have been in this game

657
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 5: the SEC. Maybe it was a Florida over Alabama.

658
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: So we got a tie.

659
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety nine, Alabama upsets Steve Spurrier and the

660
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 4: Florida Gators as a seven point dog, ends up costing

661
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 4: them a chance at a larger bowl game. So that

662
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: is tied for the largest upset from a point point

663
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 4: spread perspective in SEC history. That was nineteen ninety nine, said.

664
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: I get it right, That is correct. You got that

665
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: with the tie. The other one being two thousand and one.

666
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: Nick Saban and LSU.

667
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 4: Upset Tennessee as a seven point dog as well.

668
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: That ends up edging the Balls.

669
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 4: Out of the National Title Game in two thousand and one,

670
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 4: allows Nebraska to come back even after getting beat up

671
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 4: by Colorado at the end of their regular season.

672
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: Matt Mark for LSU two rushing touchdowns in that game.

673
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 4: Tennessee outgained LSU and Nick Saban by one hundred yards

674
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 4: but lost two fumbles, lost thirty one to twenty in

675
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: that one.

676
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 5: By the way, I won't take the point because I

677
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 5: was thinking it was one of the eight or nine

678
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 5: in Florida Alabama. So I got lucky with the matchup.

679
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 5: Humble all right, calling you.

680
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: I went back to Kansas State again.

681
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 3: But I don't think the spread over TCU in twenty

682
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: twenty two is God, was it nine er?

683
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: Was it three and a half?

684
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 5: That was low? It was like a field goal? Was

685
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 5: it was?

686
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

687
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: I believe it closed the three?

688
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, close the three.

689
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

690
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: I got Kansas State on the brain for this one.

691
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: Well, I think the answer is Kansas State. I just

692
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 5: don't know who it was. It could have been like

693
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 5: the nineties.

694
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety eight, Texas A and m upset Michael

695
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 4: Kansas State, right, yes, as a seventeen and a half

696
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: point dog beat him in overtime.

697
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 5: That's not the record.

698
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: That's not the record.

699
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: There's a twenty pointer out there in the Big Twelve,

700
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: also from the nineties, also knocked the team out of

701
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: national title consideration.

702
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 5: It's got to be Oklahoma losing.

703
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 2: I think it's the first game. I think it's the

704
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: first Big twelve title game ever.

705
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: That is correct.

706
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety six, Texas upsets number three Nebraska as a

707
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 4: twenty point dog Preestyle and James Brown the quarterback for Texas.

708
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 4: They went for broke with a fourth and one play

709
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 4: action hit a tight end for a long touchdown.

710
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 5: And was it Ricky Williams on that team too.

711
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 4: He may have been a freshman, but it was pre

712
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: Homes as the main back on that particular sea.

713
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: That is the game where everybody in Coornation started saying,

714
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: we don't get enough money.

715
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: The Longhorn Network doesn't pay us. Fuck this, We're going to.

716
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: The Big ten.

717
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: I mean that. That was the championship game that started

718
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: all that.

719
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 5: All right? So what got left?

720
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 4: So you got the SEC, you got the Big twelve.

721
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 4: We still need the Pac twelve. We need the Big

722
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: ten and we need the.

723
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: Acc Pack twelve.

724
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 5: Big ten? Is it? When Connor Cook beat Ohio State?

725
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 4: This one is wild And the hint I'll give you

726
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 4: had zero national title implications. It was pre college football

727
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 4: playoff as well, So that puts you in like a

728
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: three year window from like twenty ten to twenty thirteen.

729
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 5: That step fits, right, Connor Cook beating Ohio State, that's

730
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 5: not it. It is n twenty thirteen. I think for twelve,

731
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 5: I think that Ohio State was ineligible for the national title.

732
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 5: That's why that would have fit like they did. All right,

733
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 5: that was my guest, Colin.

734
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

735
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 3: Let's see, I can't even begin to tell you how

736
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 3: much money I lost on Oregon and twenty one losing

737
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 3: to Utah.

738
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: But that was a.

739
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 3: Very low lying game. What about Utah beating Caleb in

740
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 3: twenty two?

741
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: So for the Pac twelve, you were close with the teams.

742
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen, Oregon.

743
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 4: Upsets Utah as a six and a half point underdog.

744
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: That was let me see, in terms of it was CJ.

745
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: Verdell and Herbert.

746
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 4: As the quarterback for the Ducks, which leaves us still

747
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 4: with the Big Ten and the ACC.

748
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't feel like the Big Ten has

749
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 3: ever had an upset in the championship game. Maybe it's

750
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: just way to this this whole East West thing. After

751
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 3: they dissolved the legends and leaders and shit like.

752
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 5: Ohio State lost. I'm shocked. Aus on't Ohio State, Michigan

753
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 5: State iosa.

754
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 4: Michigan State from twenty thirteen that you were referring to

755
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 4: Ohio State close is a five and a half point

756
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 4: favorite in that game.

757
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 5: I think the ACC is when VA Tech lost to somebody,

758
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 5: you're on the right path in like the two thousands,

759
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 5: Wake Forest.

760
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: No, then Wake Forest win the ACC with four losses

761
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: one year.

762
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: I think that's the Wake Forest team that got dog

763
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: walked by Louisville and the Orange Bowl.

764
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 5: Who would Va Tech have lost to in the two

765
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 5: thousands when they would have been.

766
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 4: They lost to an unranked team in that ACC title game.

767
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: So you're right on vaugh Tech. Pitt.

768
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 5: No, Pitt wouldn't have been in the ACC. Then you

769
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 5: Wake won it in two thousand and six. What is

770
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 5: the year for this, he.

771
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: Said, two thousand and five Wake Yeah.

772
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 5: And when Wake won I think they won nine to

773
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 5: six in the AEC championship game. It's gross over maybe

774
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 5: Georgia Tech. I don't, I'll say Clemson.

775
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: So this is a real blessing in the past.

776
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: Names wise, Marcus vic being the quarterback of Virginia Tech

777
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 4: goes down to a seven and four Bobby Bawten Florida

778
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 4: State team led by Drew Weatherford and Lorenzo Booker as

779
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: a two touchdown underdog. They went on and played Penn

780
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: State in Penn State was number three. They played him

781
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 4: in the Orange Bowl, went to overtime. It was the

782
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 4: game that nobody could make a field goal between FSU

783
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 4: and Florida State, and that was the Penn State team

784
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 4: that was just in the outside.

785
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: Yet USC Texas for the national title. Penn State there

786
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: at number three, which just leaves us with a big

787
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: ten one. Do you guys want to hear it?

788
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: Yeah? I have no idea.

789
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: I can't think of an upset this except for Sparty

790
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 3: in the very first year of the College Ball Playoff,

791
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: I can't.

792
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: I can't think of an upset.

793
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 4: Twenty twelve, number twelve, Nebraska was a twelve point favorite

794
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 4: over Wisconsin. Wisconsin scored seventy points on them. Monty Ball,

795
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 4: Melvin Gordon, and James White ran for five hundred and

796
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 4: twenty seven combined yards and eight rush touchdowns. Tea Magic

797
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: could not get it done for the corn Huskers. So yes,

798
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 4: that was just another miserable championship weekend Saturday for Nebraska fans.

799
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: So let me get this straight. Numbers.

800
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 5: Accimpletly forgot that it was Wisconsin, Nebraska in the Big

801
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 5: What the hell happened in the Big ten that year?

802
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: I believe that was the year. Let's let's take a

803
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: look in terms.

804
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 5: Of more of his standings.

805
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: But what you're telling me Calvarys is the worst Big

806
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 3: Twelve loss of all time?

807
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 5: Why was Wisconsin in it? I'm looking at the standout

808
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 5: Ohio States, State and Penn State weren't eligible.

809
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 4: Correct, So Wisconsin was four and fourign conference play, and

810
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 4: then the Legends Division, Nebraska went seven and one, Michigan

811
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 4: went six and two. Northwestern was seventeenth in the country

812
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: that year they went five and three.

813
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 5: So Nebraska, Wisconsin was in it. Wisconsin, High State and

814
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 5: Penn State were ineligible.

815
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's when they're still pushing to rename.

816
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 4: It like the Corn and the Coal divisions, and before

817
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 4: they got their act together and made it East West

818
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: and so Nebraska is the biggest loser all time and

819
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 4: two of the four power conferences that is correct. They

820
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 4: lost as a twenty point favorite in the Big Twelve

821
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 4: and a twelve point favorite in the Big Ten. And

822
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 4: as I mentioned, the Big twelve has the top three

823
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: largest point spread upsets, with ninety six ninety eighth, three Nebraska,

824
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 4: Ky State, Oklahoma all losing as two touchdowns or larger favorites.

825
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 4: Not shocked.

826
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 5: All right, good stuff, we'll call it a wash on

827
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 5: the scoreboard. I think I got Colin nailed one. I

828
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 5: think I nailed one. Maybe did I do even get

829
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 5: one fully technically? No, we'll give Colin on point.

830
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: I got the first one, but that was it.

831
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 5: We'll give you a point for them. I mean I

832
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 5: almost got the acc and I almost got and I

833
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 5: got the sec one by Fluke. So we'll give you

834
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 5: one point one me zero U won for this week?

835
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 5: All right? Before we get out of here, we do

836
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 5: have Manzell a clip from Manzel's conversation with Colin from

837
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 5: earlier today that we'll close the show with. But we

838
00:42:54,600 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 5: do have some midweek maction to get to. Uh go weather,

839
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 5: haven't I haven't gone through my weather yet that time.

840
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: Hour, Like, I don't know if it's going to be

841
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 3: nothing crazy, Yeah, nothing too bad so far.

842
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 5: Always worth keeping an eye out Tuesday. I like northern

843
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 5: ILLINOI but I I need three or more than super.

844
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 5: I think it's going to be a super low scoring game.

845
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 5: I think Northern Illinois can run on Miami. I think

846
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 5: Northern Illinois is the best defense in the conference. I

847
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 5: think that that's a game you just take the field

848
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 5: goal with so uh. I like Northern Illinois there. I

849
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 5: got nothing in Western or Central, Like I can't lay

850
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: points with Western with their defense. But can Central actually score?

851
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 5: Maybe they'll just be able to run it like they

852
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 5: might be able to just run it all day. On Western,

853
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 5: we can't stop anything. Acron Kent the wagon wheel. I

854
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 5: made it ten and a half, so I was afraid

855
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 5: I was gonna have to play Kent. I was shocked.

856
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 5: I made a ten and a half Afron minus ten

857
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 5: and a half at Kent State. I got nothing there Wednesday.

858
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 5: More of a spot. I like Easton under a field

859
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 5: goal to get to Bowl eligibility. It's a good spot.

860
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 5: Their run defense has improved, Buffalo's defense is headed in

861
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 5: the wrong direction. More of a spot play there. Toledo, Ohio.

862
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 5: I leaned Toledo and it's the first time all year.

863
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 5: But I'm just too low in Ohio and I haven't

864
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 5: been fading them, and even though I should for my numbers,

865
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 5: but I've realized that I was ted wrong on the

866
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 5: on the bobs. So my two favorite are EMU under

867
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 5: a field goal, Northern Illinois need a field goal, or

868
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 5: more colin anything in mac.

869
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've already hit Northern Illinois.

870
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: The Arkansas book bet Saracen was had a three out

871
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: there this morning, so I had to scoop that up

872
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: because you're exactly right, like the where Northern Illinois can

873
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 3: defend is exactly what Miami Ohio is going to do.

874
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 3: It's a really bad matchup on from from a numbers

875
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: perspective from Miami Ohio and then the other one. Hey,

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Speaker 3: I mean wash Rinse repeat Akron Kent State under and

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Speaker 3: till Kent State proves to me that this team can

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Speaker 3: create a quality drive.

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Speaker 2: Which they did on their opening possession and scored a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: As long as they don't score by special teams or

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Speaker 3: some stupid crap, then you know, I'm just unders on

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Speaker 3: Kent State games all the way. And acron is I mean,

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Speaker 3: come on, they're not blitzing you down the field offensively either,

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Speaker 3: So under for me on Akron Kent.

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Speaker 5: State, copy Scot anything of that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll take the wagon wheel.

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Speaker 4: Like if you look at sp plus, they rank, you know,

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Speaker 4: one to one hundred and sixty something at the MIAA

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Speaker 4: or NAIA level, Akron one hundred and eighty fourth, Kent

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Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty seventh.

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Speaker 1: They're just two spots below D two Slippery Rock.

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Speaker 4: It's not breaking any who's these teams are awful. But

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Speaker 4: when you look at it, the last two years, Kent

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Speaker 4: buy six, Akron by four. Kent hasn't lost at home

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Speaker 4: in this series.

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Speaker 1: By more than nine points since two thousand and two.

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Speaker 4: I got Yulatowski thrown to Krashawn McCrae against Ball State,

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Speaker 4: which I think really is their only comp in terms

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Speaker 4: of an absolutely awful MAC team. They scored a ton

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Speaker 4: of point It's McCray had eight catches, two hundred and

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Speaker 4: thirteen yards, three touchdowns. I'll go ahead and take the points,

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Speaker 4: particularly if it gets over ten.

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Speaker 1: I get the hook. I just I can't lay this

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Speaker 1: many points with an Acron team on the road.

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Speaker 4: I don't care who they're playing, just just purely out

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Speaker 4: of respect for how poor Akron has been this year. Hey,

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Speaker 4: if they go ahead and win this game by twenty

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00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 4: one points. I'll be happy to take my medicine on it.

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00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 4: But I think Kent at least will show some fight

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00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 4: to try to win one game for the entire season.

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Speaker 4: And they've shown me a little bit of pop every

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Speaker 4: once in a while offensively this season in the past

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Speaker 4: six weeks. Hopefully I get it this week I get

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: Let's call it.

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Speaker 4: Twenty four points would be enough, twenty one maybe, So

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Speaker 4: I'll go with the Golden.

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Speaker 5: Flashes Slippery Locks. I won't stand for Slippery Rocks slander.

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Speaker 5: By the way, they will be hosting new Haven at

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Speaker 5: home in the D two playoffs.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, Slippery Rocks some fantastic home field

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Speaker 4: apparel gear. I think it's like a rock with a

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Speaker 4: monocle and a cane.

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Speaker 1: And a fur coat.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Slippery Rock is they got some cool swag

926
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Speaker 4: here in Keystone State the Rock.

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Speaker 5: Their jerseys are cool too, it just has the Rock

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Speaker 5: on it. Good stuff here. Before we go, here's an

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Speaker 5: excerpt from our convo from Collins Conversation earlier today with

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Speaker 5: college football legend and newest PBOC contributor Johnny manziel Oh.

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Speaker 5: By the way, after the Manziel. When we on the exit,

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Speaker 5: we have another song from Connor super fan loyal listener,

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Speaker 5: It's about you Mass this week. I can't wait to

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Speaker 5: hear that's.

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Speaker 3: Up, That's space, that's und still going, Sonny football. The

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Speaker 3: pop Tarts Bowl was just such a success last year

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Speaker 3: from a mascot perspective, the fact that he was toasted

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Speaker 3: at the end of the game.

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Speaker 1: Kansas Ay players ate the pop tart.

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Speaker 3: Now there are going to be three mascots at the

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Speaker 3: pop Tarts Bowl, the frosted Fudge Sunday, the frosted wild Berry,

942
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Speaker 3: and a mystery flavor that none of us know about

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Speaker 3: in the pop Tarts Bowl. Johnny, what is your power

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Speaker 3: rankings on your list of pop tart flavors?

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Speaker 6: I think for me, I like your top flavors that

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Speaker 6: you had from this tweet in twenty twenty three. I'm

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Speaker 6: a strawberry blueberry guy for sure. And then if I

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Speaker 6: had the row a little wrinkle in the mix that

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Speaker 6: I think you know, it would be a little bit different.

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Speaker 6: I think I would probably have to go with the

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Speaker 6: strawberry milkshake. To be honest, A lease, tom tarts are

952
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Speaker 6: just no matter where how you size they're pretty tried

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Speaker 6: and true to be absolutely delicious. So you know, I'm

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Speaker 6: a little basic on the strawberry blueberry to start, but

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Speaker 6: you know I like the classics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that strawberry milkshake got a lot of love on

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Speaker 3: the Twitter, so we'll see. I'll probably be eating a

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Speaker 3: whole box of them during this Bowl game.

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Speaker 5: All right. That'll do it for today's episode. Thanks to

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Speaker 5: Colin and Mike for joining me. Thanks to our producer

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Speaker 5: David on the back end most poorly. Thanks to all

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Speaker 5: be back tomorrow with a group of five preview Colin,

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Speaker 5: I'll be back with the Week I mean, is is

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