1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Flowing out of the backfield, 3 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: flowing down the sidelines. He's Hanging with the Boys, presented 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: by Windstuff where flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, 5 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross one 6 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: thirty two p m. Thursday, and that can mean only 7 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: one thing, that Hanging with the Boys should have been 8 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: overwhelmed at least an hour ago. But because we had 9 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: a press conference by none other than Jesse's boy, Freaky Mike, 10 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: we move the show's go after the press conference so 11 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: we would be able to bring you news of the 12 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: press conference, which we'll get to in just a minute. 13 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: But right now we'll take you to a live look 14 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: at Tostito's Championship Plaza right outside of Ford Center in 15 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: beautiful Frisco, Texas, where it is sixty two degrees, it's 16 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: mostly cloudy, and it feels like sixty one. There you go, 17 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: there is the look. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. 18 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: Now back to your regularly scheduled programming. What Kurt, you 19 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 1: listen to the whole press conference what do we learn 20 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: from Mike McCarthy other than he announced that Tyrone Crawford 21 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: is retiring or not coming back to the Cowboys, which 22 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: he sounded really unsure once he started down that road 23 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: if he was supposed to say that or not, but 24 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: he said it, so we found that out. Lations to 25 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: Tyron Crawford, congratulations Tyrone. Now we can get you on 26 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: the show as a as a regular guest now that 27 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: he's not on the team, maybe since he has nothing 28 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: else to do. So what else did you take away 29 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: from the press? Oh? By the way, hey, how you doing? 30 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: Jes see, how you doing? You guys look great today? 31 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: How you doing? Kurt up Man, Welcome to the show. 32 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Now you got a little bit different look going on. 33 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: The picture is way off in the background and not 34 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: like falling on your head today. What's going on? Because 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: it's a picture that out a guy and it's a 36 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: black hole over to my left. And so now we're 37 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: starting a new season, so we're farther away from that 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: black hole. Knock. I'm so I'm moving away because it's 39 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: a new year, new time and I love it. But 40 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: I want to hear what Kurt has to say from this, 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: From this interview. I hope we speak to Jesse. Wait 42 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: a minute for so. In other words, it took you 43 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: what you're saying is it took you a whole year 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: to figure out that the aesthetics of this show were 45 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: important and for you to actually frame it up, says 46 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: the guy that does it with a with a closet 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: door in his background when he's at home coming from me. 48 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: But it took you a whole year, Nate, to figure 49 00:02:56,639 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: out that this is a better look than sitting up 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: against the wall. No. No, the team had me in 51 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: a black hole. So I was okay, okay, all right, 52 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Okay, I got I got him, I 53 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: got him. Okay, Kurt, what what did you take from 54 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: the interview? Well, there's a lot of different things he 55 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: brought up, and this kind of came all of a sudden. 56 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: I had no idea that McCarthy was talking today until 57 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: they kind of popped it on us earlier this morning. 58 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: But good, say what's up? I can't hear him? What's yeah? Kurt? 59 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: Kurt slow in my ear chant so so so x 60 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: Kurt out, Let's go to the guys for either one 61 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: of you guys able to listen. I know you guys 62 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: are busy today. But oh yes, sir, yeah, took away 63 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: from the from from from the deal. Okay, Nate, start 64 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: us out. What what did you take away? Okay, the 65 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: first thing. Let me get my little I gotta I 66 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: gotta list of things I took from the head coach. 67 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: First of all, he don't like short players. He won't 68 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: play with lymth and with the ability to do more 69 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: than one thing. He values that that player that can 70 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: can slide into a three four to a four three, 71 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: especially with his front seven, with the greatest of ease. 72 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: So that is what they're looking for me. They're going 73 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: out getting these guys. Know they're taller, there's six four 74 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: are better because he want guys that can do multiple things. 75 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: And another thing I found out is if if miss 76 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: Jane Slater, if I'm pronouncing her name right, that it's 77 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: something deep, deep deep within those two that we have 78 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: to find out about bad or good. Little animosity there 79 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: you think, can y'all hear that? What you're saying, Oh, 80 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: Chris is in here? I mean yeah, I had the 81 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: animosity part. There's something there. I don't know quite what 82 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: it is. I know the last year there was this 83 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: thing when Jane said something about something that was going 84 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 1: on in the building and it took off and maybe 85 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: people didn't feel some kind of way about that. And 86 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, but but but Jane wasn't for the 87 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: jokes today. She wasn't for the jokes today. She was not. 88 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: She was not. Jesse. What did you Was there any 89 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: big major things that came out of it for you 90 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: or was it just more coach speak? Well, you know, 91 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: we learned because there's been this question up in the air, 92 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: where is Keyano neil gonna play? Is he gonna play safety? 93 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: Is he's gonna play linebacker? Uh? And then when he 94 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: said they're gonna start that linebacker, it starts to now 95 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: me to start thinking some things. One we hit the 96 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: retirement of Tyrone Crawford. Well, if you're move with Keyan 97 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: O'Neil down the linebacker, what does that mean for the 98 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: future of Sean Lee? Also, now how this thing worked 99 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: out where if Keano's playing the will, who's playing the mic, 100 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: who's playing the sam and and and and we're really 101 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: going to be able to see now how they're going 102 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: to orchestrate this thing. And I'm still trying to figure out. Okay, 103 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: if Kiano's playing the same I mean playing the will, 104 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: and Donovan Wilson will be playing the free, I mean 105 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: the strong. Then are we going to draft the free? 106 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 1: Are gonna draft the corner? Who's because we're still without 107 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: of free safety. So some of the pieces are starting 108 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: to come together what this team will be. He spoke 109 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: very highly of Joe Witt said. He said, Joe Witt 110 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: was coordinator ready. Now I got my feelings about that 111 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: that he's coordinated ready, then why didn't you make him 112 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: the coordinator? But whatever, But you know, he's excited about 113 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: that group with dan Quinn, and it sounds like dan 114 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: Quinn has a ton of control heading into this draft 115 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: right now of where they're going to go on the 116 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: defensive part of the football. Like he made jokes about it, 117 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: but I think the Cowboys are gonna really dive deep 118 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: into the defensive side of the football, which I think 119 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: they should. Let me say that, I think they should, 120 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: But it's it's kind of reading in between the line 121 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 1: and reading the tea leaves. It sounds like dan Quinn 122 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: is very very hands on. And he said one thing 123 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: that Nate has been saying for months. He said, you know, 124 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: he said, they're preparing for virtual, he said, but the 125 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: players and the coaches they learn best when we're able 126 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: to get our hands on them, when we're able to 127 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: have that time together. So he's like, that's what we 128 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: need to get. You know, last year was something just 129 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: completely different than what everyone was used to, he said, 130 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: But in order for this team and really come into 131 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: form and shaping the form, I gotta get my hands 132 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: on these players right now. Early. We can't this virtual 133 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: thing we might be preparing for, but this ain't the 134 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: way that we kind of do business and really can 135 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: be successful with this thing virtually trying to build a team. 136 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that you know, you're right, 137 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: Nate Dak said that in his press conference, like it's 138 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: important to get the guys together, it's important to be 139 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: in person. So Nate, I think you know, you said 140 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: it all last year that that was a big deal 141 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: and they were downplaying that as you know, well, everybody's 142 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: doing it the same way, and it sounds like that 143 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: is a huge deal. Yeah, especially as much as they 144 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: put on because you know, he he said, and I guess, uh, 145 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: young lady brought it out of him. He said that, no, 146 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: we didn't put in too much. We did what we 147 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: were supposed to do. But what I read between the 148 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: lines just and maybe you know you didn't gather this 149 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: is what he was saying was along with them the 150 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: lengthy players, we need smarter players, players that can adjust 151 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: to what we're trying to do. He went over that 152 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: again and again he reiterated that we did not put 153 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: in too much. But but what we what just guys 154 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: loan and expect that I thought he did say they 155 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: because of the virtual they didn't handle the virtual workouts, well, 156 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: they didn't handle it well. He he converted it as 157 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: he went on saying, we could have did a better 158 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: job as coaches, but they all decided before that they 159 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: was gonna put this in. When you decide something like 160 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: that with all those brains in the room, and somebody 161 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, maybe we're putting in too much, shouldn't 162 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: we back up? Where they momentarily backed up round about 163 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: the fourth game because when everybody went to crime, because 164 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: that's how players are. They see where one guy, one 165 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: or two guys get the crime, then everybody get the crime. 166 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: Then the coaches backed up. But this man had reiterated that, 167 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,119 Speaker 1: you know, we bottom line, what I got from it 168 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: was they's gonna have smarter players, players that understand the scheme, 169 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Guys that can wrap their hand around this. That's why 170 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: they brought in the kid from Atlanta, a guy that 171 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: has played with his coach and that can can play 172 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: multiple positions. And he said that even when he hugged 173 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: some guy made him feel small. I mean, that's all 174 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: to do with freaking Mike. I don't understand he came 175 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: over that, but I understand exactly, Shanna. You've heard me 176 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: say that's expected before Jesse got on there. I always 177 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: say it is our players smart enough to handle these schemes. 178 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: We simplifying things because our players cannot advance until another scheme. 179 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 1: And that's what they tried to do last year. And 180 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: it hurt us, Yes it did, because how long did 181 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: we not have the players that can grasp the scheme? 182 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: Out the four games we had playing guys that didn't 183 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: want to play no more, and he showed up, and 184 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: he showed up in a terrible way. Did it surprise 185 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: you any I believe in there he said that, you know, 186 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: not going to really see wholesale changes as far as 187 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: schemes and such. On defense, It's going to be more 188 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: building off last year, and what they did over the 189 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: last eight games is that expected. I guess that, like 190 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: you said, maybe it's just a matter of getting the 191 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: players more involved in getting players in the direction they 192 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: were already headed. And I think he was meaning more 193 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: for that, Kurt when he said with the turnovers, he 194 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: don't want that to loosen up, you know, And some 195 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: of the schemes he keep he keeps saying player and 196 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: I rode down player over scheme. Get these players in here, 197 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: smarter players, Lithia players, guys that motors, that can run 198 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: and do what it's like. And he said out to 199 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh game, he felt that guys finally started understanding 200 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: that fits what they needed to do. And these guys, 201 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: these are the guys they're bringing in. These are the 202 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: guys that I don't think they'll waste time this year. 203 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: If a guy ain't fitting, I think they're gonna get 204 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: rid of them. Because what I understand is mister Quinn 205 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: is not joking. He's supposed to be a guy that ain't. 206 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: I ain't joking, Fellas. This is how we do this, 207 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: and this is what we need. And I think after 208 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: year listening to players moaning grown by they you know, 209 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: in other words, saying we're not smart enough to do this. 210 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: They're not going through that again this year. That is 211 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: not that is not a way out. And here's the thing. 212 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: This for some of these guys. This will be for Layton, 213 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: for Jalen, for Jordan, for Tank. Yes, all these guys 214 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: that are they are bringing back. This will be now 215 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: DC number three and three years, right, This will be 216 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: the third DC that they have in three years. And 217 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: so if you start hearing the same thing in the 218 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: third year about not being able, because we heard the 219 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: same thing the last year, the Jason Garrett era, you know, 220 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: about guys kind of being yolo and doing their own 221 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: thing and not really understanding the fundamentals of football and 222 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: the game plan that was going on. We heard that 223 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: last year about guys not knowing the understanding the fundamentals 224 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: of where to go and line up and assigning football 225 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: last year. If we start hearing that again this year, 226 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: you gotta start saying to yourself, wait, everybody can't be lying. 227 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: There has to be something something that's happening with the 228 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: players on the field. So I think with with with 229 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn and Joe Witt and this this new staff 230 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: talking about building what you off of what you had 231 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: last year, is saying, okay, now there has to be 232 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: something that's stuck. Whatever stuck last year, We're gonna build 233 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: from there. We're not going back to the genesis of 234 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: this thing. We're gonna we're gonna kind of find a 235 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: good point of where we left off last year and 236 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: move forward. And for all you guys who can't move on, 237 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: who can't catch up, then we're going to We're gonna 238 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: just kind of say hey, step up there to the 239 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: side while we continue to move forward. Now, the great 240 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: thing about this defense and the great thing about you know, 241 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: the job for dan Quinn, that this defense was so 242 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: bad last year that any no, this is this is 243 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: any improvement, any improvement for dan Quinn and this defense. 244 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: It's gonna be like a New Year's party. It's gonna 245 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: be shouting to praise, saying, yes, look at this team, 246 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,199 Speaker 1: and you know they're not giving up forty points a game. 247 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: They're only given up thirty point whatever it is. So 248 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna the bar has been set. And now this 249 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: is the thing thing for players. You know, hey, Jalen, 250 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: you you want to kind of get back in the 251 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: good graces, Layton. You want to kind of get back 252 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: in the good graces. The bar is so low that 253 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: if you guys do a little bit better, you know, 254 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: it'll be worth the guarantee money that you got this 255 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: year and your contracts, and you'll be able to help 256 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: this team out a little bit more. Because this the 257 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: way that this Cowboys team is set up. To give 258 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:25,239 Speaker 1: it a basketball reference, this is the Brooklyn Nets. Okay, 259 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: this is the Brooklyn Nets. You got your Kyries, you 260 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: got you got your Katie's, you got your hardens, and 261 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, boom. You got all the offensive power that 262 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: you can have with your quarterback sign and Amari, and 263 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: you got CD coming in the year or two with 264 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, and you got your tighting in back and 265 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: hopefully you got some healthy offensive lineman. You got some 266 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: guys who are here last year. They got some reps 267 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: and got them some experience. And you're running back hopefully 268 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: he has a bounce back yere. So you got all 269 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: this firepower. You got guys who can score from any 270 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: point on the football field. Now defensively, you're just saying, hey, guys, 271 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: we do a little bit better then what we did 272 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: a year ago. We're gonna be all right. The ball 273 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: was set so low. We're gonna be able to be 274 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: so prolific on offense if we can do a little 275 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: bit better. And I think adding guys like Keyan O'Neill 276 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: adding you know, uh, you know, signing Jordan Lewis back. 277 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: Now you have your slot corner. You got a guy 278 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: who's gonna be able to play, you know, get Jalen 279 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: off the field and those passing downs right now, he 280 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: can come down to play those play those tight ends, 281 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: play those running backs and passing downs. Uh So, so 282 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: that being able to to to to I guess fort 283 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: to five a lot of the areas where you suffered 284 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: last year. And because you gotta understand you have to 285 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: build your team in a way to win your division. 286 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: What did we struggle with last year? Tight ends and 287 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: running backs killing us on third down? What does Washington 288 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: have say, Kuon Barkley is going to be that the 289 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: same thing that they had in Philadelphia, those running backs 290 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: killing us out of the battlefield on third downs. For 291 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: big games, you bring a guy like Kean O'Neil in. 292 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: He'll be able to play that real linebacker spot and 293 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: now cover some of these guys with a little bit 294 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: more athleticism of a safety and knowledge of playing the 295 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: ball in the in the in the passing down as 296 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: a safety. So hopefully you convert some of those to 297 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: getting off the field and not lowing them to convert 298 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: first downs. Just doing something as simple as that cuts 299 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,479 Speaker 1: down on your defense and gives your offense more opportunities. 300 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: So this team is being built, being built to win 301 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: your division, and they're putting the pieces in place to 302 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: do so. He said something in the press conference about consistency. 303 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: It's what builds championships, and he kind of implied that 304 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't just players coaches. The coaches weren't consistent last year. 305 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: And do you think that's true? Or the Cowboys had 306 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: that talent on defense, it just weren't consistent. And if, sir, 307 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: was that a coaching problem? Was that a player problem? 308 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: Is that the coaches didn't react quick enough to the 309 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: lack of talent, and they had already put their money 310 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 1: into these players. And so when you've already done that, 311 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: you've already kind of said, okay, fellas, we got money 312 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: in just in case we have a bad injury to 313 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: put them into some players. That's out there in the street. 314 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: But other than that, we got to ride what we got. 315 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: H they they they misjudged. A couple of players made 316 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: a couple of defensive linement bad and that hurt them. 317 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: That that set the whole team back. That hurt the 318 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: whole team. All right, fellas, let's take our first Oh, 319 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: go ahead and Nate, No, no, sir, I'm with you. 320 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: That's where I can roll. All right, let's take let's 321 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: take our first break. When we come back in the 322 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: next segment, we'll talk more football. We'll talk more what 323 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: coach McCarthy had to say, talk about some free agent signings, 324 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: some players or they're staying or they're going. Coach McCarthy 325 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: had an interesting comment to say about Aldon Smith that 326 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: conflicted some reports that came out this week. That was interesting. 327 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: And I got to talk to a Medal of Honor 328 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: recipient recipient yesterday Today is National Medal of Honor Day. 329 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: We have about a seven minute interview. We will run 330 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: next segment and then we're gonna have We're gonna have 331 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: fun with Jesse Holly at some point in this show. 332 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: So Jesse, stay tuned to see what kind of fun 333 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: we have with you. When we come back on Hall 334 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 1: of the Boys. 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We were just talking in the break about 377 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: you know, reports came out this week that the Cowboys 378 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: were moving on from Alden Smith. Gat a year last year, 379 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: what five five sacks last year faded down the stretch, 380 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: faded down the stretch. But that's understandable and given it, 381 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: he'd been out of football for so long, so a 382 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: lot of people wanted him back. And it came out 383 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: that they were moving on, and then coach McCarthy said 384 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: that he hasn't moved on. He's still a fluid situation. 385 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: He actually had a talk today or yesterday about Alden Smith. 386 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: So what did you guys take from that? Well, it's interesting, 387 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean Edwarder, who is ESPN reporter, He tweeted shortly thereafter. 388 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: The coaching staff still once Alden, but management doesn't and 389 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: management told Alden that they wouldn't be resigning him. So 390 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: I don't know a difference of philosophy or difference of direction, 391 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: or maybe it's just a money thing, who knows, But 392 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting situation with you know, you talk 393 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: about long, lengthy guys. I would think Smith kind of 394 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: fit that bill, but maybe they just felt like he 395 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: didn't have enough left in the tank. True, Yeah, there 396 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: you go. And that's what coach talking on Kurt was 397 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: that length, was that ability to play different positions and 398 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: multiple fronts. And so that is what the guy from 399 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Atlanta does. I mean, he gives you position flex. And 400 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: I kind of use that word hesitantly because here in 401 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: Dallas we've been fit about that word for a lot 402 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: in that old era, and boy's seen it never worked. 403 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping this, hoping that it brings a new 404 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: meaning now you know, the word position flex. And I'll 405 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: even add to that mix of there's a player who 406 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: I think they really want to see shine this year. 407 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: I think he want to see him talking about take 408 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: the step yes, contract year, Yes, sir. It's someone who 409 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: they have been high on since they drafted him. He's 410 00:22:54,480 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: has I guess I guess amen, Yes, read to go 411 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: wild guests Randy Gregory. Ah, it would be correct. And 412 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: so how do I get this guy, Randy? How do 413 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: we maximize getting everything that we can? I gotta kind 414 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: of I have to do some addition by subtraction. I 415 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: have to take away a guy like Aldon Smith and 416 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: to say, hey, okay, Randy, we're gonna give you every 417 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: opportunity this year to show improve. It's a contract here, 418 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: and I'll just say this Saturday night Dickie's Arena, I 419 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: was sitting ringside with a very with this very same 420 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: person we're talking about now, and we had some interesting 421 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: conversations that we'll talk about at a later date. But 422 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: Randy is ready for a breakout contract here. Let's just 423 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: say that to say the least about that. So, the 424 00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 1: the subtraction of Aldon Smith means the addition of playing 425 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: time and rolls and opportunities for one Randy Gregory, Kurt, 426 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: did you get a did you get a invite to 427 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: go sit ringside? Like? I don't have that kind of Nate, 428 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: did you did you get an invite to go sit ringside? Na? No, man, 429 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm out of the loop now, Jesse get a crime floating. 430 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I didn't get a seat to 431 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: be ringside. So Jesse, Jesse, number it was. It was 432 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: a Victor Ortiz and Malie Hooker look Hooker, two hometown kids, 433 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: one from Grand Prix, one from dollars. It was a 434 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: good fight. Dicky's arena is a nice arena for work. 435 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for the invite, appreciate that, all right? Jesse go ahead? Wow? Yeah, 436 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: What's I mean? There's not room for Aldon Smith? I 437 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: mean I would think you always need defensive end ends 438 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: for your rotation, and they probably still need some guys. 439 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Is this They just feel like he just too old, 440 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: too too much baggage, too much tread on the tires. 441 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: Is that maybe with so well, so, where your reps? 442 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: So where your reps gonna come from? Bratley or knee? 443 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: How does he get some reps you gotta? And this 444 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: is what's been haunt this is what's been haunting the 445 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys for the last seven years. We're gonna hold 446 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: on to this one guy so we cannot play the 447 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: other guys, and then we guy have a breakout year 448 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: and then we say, oh men, lose Nate. I don't 449 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: know he froze on the screen, but I hear him 450 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: in my ear, you know, And so you don't want 451 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: that situation here. I mean, if all they can come 452 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: in and truly be an impact player eight nine, ten sacks, 453 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: that's a different story. Five sacks don't get you that 454 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: in the eyesight of the ownership. That's what I'm saying 455 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: for it's what the coaches think, is that he make 456 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: it do more. And again, you gotta also start thinking this, 457 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: this this coaching staff and this front office. One you 458 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 1: start talking about dollars a guy like Bradley and I 459 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: who was still on the rookie contract, you gotta start 460 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: getting the most of that. Instead of having to shell 461 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: out all this money for all these players, you gotta 462 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: look at your roster and say, hey, you know what 463 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: we did draft this guy. We did have so these 464 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: guys have to at some point in time, these guys 465 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: have to get some playing time. You have to play them, 466 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: and it behooves you to do so because if you 467 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: got something allah Dak Prescott, you now can have their 468 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: services for the next was this is year two or three, 469 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: so you're having for two or three more years on 470 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: those rookie deals. That gives you a that gives you 471 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: the ability to not have to sll out so much 472 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: money for other high impact players. When as we get 473 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: more and more into Dak Prescott's contract, that number goes 474 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 1: up and up and up and up, and you got 475 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: to be able to control that cap somehow, some way. Well, 476 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 1: you don't have to keep clipping all these switches. You know. 477 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: How you do that? You get the players that you drafted, 478 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 1: they actually are developed, You actually put them on the field, 479 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: and they actually produce for you. Like that's how it's that, 480 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: That's how good programs are run, instead of taking all 481 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: this money and always trying to go out and get 482 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: you know, free agents and other people players where you 483 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: have to pay them. You know, if I can save 484 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: some dollars and I can develop some players and I 485 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: get some guys play at a very high level on 486 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 1: rookie contracts, well then that gives me the ability to 487 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: do more things if I have to go out and 488 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: pay somebody else to complete this team. Because I'm gonna 489 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: be honest with you, fellas, we we aren't in a 490 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: developmental stage for this Dallas Cowboys thing like we are 491 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: in a we are in a win now like we 492 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: are in a win now window. This this thing isn't 493 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: being built like, oh, well, you know two or three 494 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: or four years from now, this team should be now. 495 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: We don't have time for that, Like we do not 496 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: have time for two or three years down the road. 497 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: This this is, this is this has to be the 498 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: mindset of front office, of coaches, of players is. I 499 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 1: know it's elite to go from not making the playoffs 500 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: at all to winning the super Bowl, but damn, like, 501 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta get going, like we have to 502 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: get going fast with all this, Like we gotta get 503 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: going in the direction of of of winning now and 504 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: really you know, divisional rounds and and and and conference 505 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: championships and showing up in the late February games like 506 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: that has to start right now. If that's the case. 507 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: If that's the case, she was a great time for them. 508 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, no, glad, I'm goun on curse. Shoot 509 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: when you want to say something, I'm a backup. Well, 510 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: I just if that's the case. We talked about it 511 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: some last week. Why are they bargain shopping free agency? 512 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: Should they be going out for some really good impact players? 513 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: Where is Neil going to be that guy? You know, 514 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: I feel that, you know, when they got Neil Okay, 515 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: that is that guy that can play that that safety, 516 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit of will backer 517 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: now a whole lot just in certain situations that you know, 518 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: especially in third downs, you know, and past the situations 519 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's played a little bit more. But 520 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: I understand this right here. A lot of time was 521 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: wasted last year on playing guys that were used to 522 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: see us this year. So now you know, you gotta 523 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: kind of catch up. But I'm with you, guys, if 524 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: they are a mindset that they are ready to go 525 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: and locked and loaded, now you have to start playing 526 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: some of these young guys and you gotta hurt. You 527 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: gotta play them now. And they got to see if 528 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: there's preseason games. They got in the rock and roll 529 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: within these preseason games. Because you gotta be locked and loaded. 530 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: You ain't got to be a great defense. But like 531 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: Jesse said, you're going out to be average. And and 532 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: here's my thinking to your question, Kurt, is while we 533 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: may think one thing as outsiders in the sense defensively, 534 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: this team is loaded offensively, Like I think that part 535 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: they fully understand. They're saying, hey and we can get 536 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: tiring Back and Lyle back. We're we got we signed 537 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: our biggest free agent and signing Dac. So they feel 538 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: comfortable about what they can be offensively. The Cowboys all 539 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: have always been an offensive minded franchise, so they feel 540 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: like we're good. And while we may look at Jalen 541 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: or or Layton as sometimes liability, I think they see 542 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 1: this as Okay, we're kind of going back to that 543 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: four three scheme where now maybe Jalen and Layton will 544 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: have better years. They'll probably go and draft a corner, 545 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: whether that be uh J. C. Horne or um the 546 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: Bama kid, and they'll have Bama you know, Bama book 547 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: ins on the corners, and you know, they'll find a 548 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: free safety somewhere in the mix. And they're and they're 549 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: saying to themselves, Okay, Randy Gregory, now's your time. Okay, Tank, 550 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: now's your time. We're gonna kind of we're gonna kind 551 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: of get give this middle all this defense some rotation 552 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: with some of the guys that we got. But again, 553 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: I think when we look at it, we're looking for 554 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: all these wholesale changes, and they're looking at it as Jalen, 555 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: we we you gotta guaranteed eight whatever. It's time for 556 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: you to play better, Layton, Okay, come back from the injuries. 557 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: It's time for you to play better. And they're banking. 558 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: I think they are banking on these guys. Remember, these 559 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: are the guys that they drafted Jerry and Stephen and 560 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: Will McClay. They drafted Jaylen Smith with the hope that 561 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: he would be a starting player for them. They drafted 562 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: Layton Venerus with the hope that he will be a 563 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: starting player for them. So while we on the outside right, 564 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: these aren't These aren't our babies. That's it's their babies. 565 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: It's Will to Clay babies, It's Stevens and and Jerry's babies. 566 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: So they have to give those guys a benefit of 567 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: the doubt. We don't as as as analysts we can 568 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: pick them apart because we don't draft them, we don't 569 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: pay them. We don't do anything about it but just 570 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: see what we see on TV, dissect and talk about it. 571 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: But these guys in the front office and in the 572 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: scouting department, they're saying, no, we we like this, or 573 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: we like that, or we're hoping that we can get 574 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: back to this form of that player, And so they're 575 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: looking around and saying, you know what if we if 576 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: we go back to a scheme that was that that 577 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: played well into Jalen strengths, maybe we get to jail 578 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: And that we saw two or three years ago. Uh 579 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: and and maybe if we get back to a scheme 580 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: that takes less contact off of Layton Vanderest, we get 581 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: him playing like he was playing his rookie season. And 582 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: again adding a veteran guy like Neil and now you 583 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: have two corners on the outside. You have some stability 584 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: with your slot corner and Jay and Jay Jordan Lewis. 585 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: So we look at these things differently. They see it 586 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: one way. We see it a completely different way. And 587 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: we're looking for these big wholesale changes, and they're saying, whoa, whoa, whoa. 588 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: These are our babies. Now, these are the ones that 589 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: we kind of had the incubat and we drafted them. However, 590 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: you may see that we you know what they see today. 591 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: The people in the front officers are still looking at 592 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: we have the pieces already in place to go. We 593 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: just needing a play to that level. And I can't 594 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: knock them for that thinking, because if we get rookie 595 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: year Jalen if we get rookie year or not rookie year, 596 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: but first year Jalen, and we get first year Laton 597 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: vander esh and Jalen is and George Lewis is consistent, 598 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: and Tayvron dig takes that next step at corner and 599 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: certain or Horn or whoever they pick at the other corner, 600 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: if they show improve to where they're supposed to be, 601 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: and Tank does what he's he's been doing, and Randy 602 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: played like a guy who has in a contract year, 603 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: you start looking around. You start saying, well, you know what, 604 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: and we found something last year, and a little bit 605 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: in Donovan Wilson say well, okay, maybe maybe we have something. 606 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: And you truly believe that dan Quinn is going to 607 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: come in and give you some sort of edge. We 608 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: talk about coaching us giving some sort of edge. Coaching 609 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: should win you one or two games a season. Well, 610 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: if that's the case, and that they can pull this off. 611 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: Now you're looking at these guys, Now this is all 612 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: this is all hypothetical. The game still has to be played. 613 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: There's a lot of ifs. What you've been saying there, 614 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: but but but again, I was like, wow, but again, 615 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: we can say that because we're not the ones that 616 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: are putting these people together. My job isn't to put 617 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: the right pieces in place around Jalen Smith. That's Will 618 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: McClay job. That's Steven that's that's that's Jerry's job. And 619 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: so they have to come in with these ifs they 620 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: have to, they have to. If not, then why would 621 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: you let the contract for Jalen you know, be guaranteed 622 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: this year. If you're gonna pay him, you're not gonna 623 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: put him on the bench. Jalen Smith ain't going to 624 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: the big news flash, guys, with that much money guaranteed 625 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: to hi him next year, he ain't going to the bench, 626 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: and he ain't going to the bench. So so what 627 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: do you have to do. If he's not going to 628 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: the bench, then you have to do the very best 629 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: that you can to get the most out of him. 630 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: You're not taking an eight million got a guy and 631 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 1: putting him on the bench. I don't give a damn 632 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: how bad he's playing. You're not taking eight million dollars 633 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: to putting them on the bench. Were not, Jesse, You're 634 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: working seven to a frenzy. We didn't say all of that, 635 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, all we just use. You know what, this 636 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: is a good time to give Jesse a breather. Let 637 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: him take a deep breath. He did, man, I tell 638 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: you what he if he iffed himself right into the 639 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: word damn and he don't even cuss. You know what 640 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: if if if damn? All right? Fellas out office. I 641 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: was sure you didn't enough yesterday to talk to uh 642 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: General Pat Bradley. He is one of one of sixty 643 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: nine living Medal of Honor recipients, and we are They 644 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: are building a Medal of Honor museum over in Arlington, 645 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: right right in the neighborhood of the ballpark in AT 646 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: and T Stadium, and I've seen the renderings. It's going 647 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: to be very cool. Uh mister Jones and Charlotte, we're 648 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: on the Today Show this morning, and mister Jones donated 649 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars to this museum. It's the largest donation 650 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: that he has ever made. It's a big deal for 651 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: the family, it's a big deal for the organization. Today's 652 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: a you know, a really cool day. It's National Medal 653 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: of Honor Day. They will have a moment at three 654 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: twenty five today on three twenty five that draws attention 655 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: to the Medal of Honor. You know, they're trying to 656 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: raise funds for the museum. So I was able yesterday 657 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: in the studio to talk to to Major Bradley. We'll roll, 658 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: the interview, will go to commercial, and then when we 659 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna have some fun with our very 660 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: own Jesse Holly. Can I hold a hundred dollars? Can 661 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: I hold a hundred? All of the day? Can hold on? 662 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: Give me? Give me? Welcome to another episode of Winging 663 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: It presented by Wingstop, and we are joined by a 664 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 1: very special special guest today. I am I am honored, 665 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: and it's a privilege to be joined by Medal of 666 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: Honor recipient, General Pat Brady. How you doing today, General Brady, 667 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Great to be with you. Yeah, thanks, 668 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us for this segment. Or really appreciate it. 669 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: Like I said, again, it's an honor. And you received 670 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: the Medal of Honor from President Nixon. What what was 671 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: that phone call? Like? Well, it was kind of it 672 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: was kind of strange because I had already received a 673 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,439 Speaker 1: second Distinguished Service Cross, which is just below the Medal 674 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: of Honor, and what I didn't know is that that 675 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: was an Interim Award, and so when I got the call, 676 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: I thought some but he was jerk in my chain, really, 677 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: and so did my boss. He actually made me do 678 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: a memo for a record to say yes, indeed, this 679 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: was from General Westmoreland's office and I was going to 680 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: receive the Medal of Honor. The great thing about it 681 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: was they allowed my family to go, and they also 682 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: got a special airplane for my fellow veterans and my 683 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: friends who I was in the Army with at the time, 684 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 1: and they flew them all to Worshington, d C. And 685 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: it was on the East Lawn, I think, unlike the 686 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: ones today where they do it indoors. So it was 687 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: a great It was a surprise, but it was a 688 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: very very pleasant surprise. Awesome. Tell us a little bit 689 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: about the action in Vietnam for which you received the 690 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: Medal of Honor. I was what they called in Vietnam 691 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: a dustoff pilot. That's a helicopter ambulance pilot. Dustoff was 692 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: our call sign. If someone in Vietnam got hurt, they called. 693 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: They just yelled into the microphone dust off, and everybody knew, 694 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: clear the airs, clear the area, we've got wounded and 695 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: the helicopter analysts just coming and get our wounded. And 696 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: so that's what I was doing the day I got 697 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: the medal. It involved some tricky kind of flying because 698 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: of the weather, but essentially it was nothing different than 699 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 1: I had ever done many many times. Helped rescue over 700 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: five thousand people in Vietnam on this particular day. And 701 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: this is about the best part of it. Somebody saw it, 702 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: somebody appreciated it, and they took the time to sit 703 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: down and document it. Not somebody, a whole bunch of people, 704 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: and they sent it up the chain and thank god 705 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: it was approved. That's awesome. And today is March twenty fifth, 706 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: which is three twenty five, which is National Medal of 707 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: Honor Day. And at three twenty five on three twenty five, 708 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: we recognize the National Medal of Honor. And we're building 709 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: a National Medal of Honor Museum right here in our 710 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,879 Speaker 1: own backyard in North Texas, in Arlington, Texas. And you've 711 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: been involved in this project. Why is this museum so 712 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: important and why now? Why why is it good timing 713 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: now for this museum? Well, the museum is it's important 714 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: because it's important that we remember our veterans and what 715 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: they've done for this country. This museum will be a 716 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: vault for our values. It will be a vault also 717 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: that recognizes valor. But the most important part of the 718 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: museum is going to be the values part. We want 719 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: it to be an educational, inspirational center for young people 720 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: in this country. We want a young person to walk 721 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 1: in the front door of that museum, he's going to 722 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,359 Speaker 1: see heroes not wearing capes or masks or whatever they 723 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: wear today, but they're going to be wearing dark daggs 724 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: and they're going to walk out the back door knowing 725 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: that they can be a hero in their communities, in 726 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: their schools, in their families, and they don't have to 727 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: go into combat to do it. That's awesome. In the 728 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: words of Nate Newton, I know if Nate, which is 729 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: one of my co hosts on this show, we're here, 730 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: he would say wow. Wow. So part of this project, also, 731 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: there's going to be a National Medal of Honor monument 732 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: built in DC as part of this project. That's where 733 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: you're at right now advocating for that. Tell us a 734 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: little bit about about that project that you're involved in. 735 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 1: We've been talking to some Congressman Senators here in DC. 736 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: And that's you know, it's an interesting thing because I 737 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: was very fortunate to be a part of the Battle 738 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: monum Su Commission which built the World War Two museum. 739 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: Someone looked around in those days and said, good lord, 740 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,439 Speaker 1: look at the greatest generation. We have nothing to acknowledge them, 741 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,879 Speaker 1: and said, why don't we? And so then they went 742 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 1: to work and they built the world that beautiful World 743 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: War Two museum or monument, and I was a part 744 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: of it. One of the great thrills of my life. 745 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: Same thing with this, somebody looked around and said, from 746 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: the Civil War on down, we have nothing that recognizes 747 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: these people who not only defended our country, but they 748 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: helped design, develop and enrich our country. They did much 749 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: more for our country than what they did in combat. 750 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: And so they decided, well, we ought to have a 751 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: memorial for them. Also, it was very very much appreciated 752 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 1: by those of us in the Medal of Honor Society. 753 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: All that is awesome. And I know the Jones family 754 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys have been really involved in supportive 755 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: of this project. How important has their role been in 756 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: making this come to life in Arlington. I think the 757 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: point is this everything is leadership. Everything is leadership. And 758 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: the Jones family understands leadership. And we've got a great CEO, 759 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: Jim Connors, who also understands leadership. And Jerry Jones when 760 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: he talks about for the last fifteen years, Medal of 761 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 1: Honor recipients have been going through high schools, middle schools 762 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: across this country teaching the young people the importance of courage, sacrifice, 763 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: and patriotism. Fifteen years. Jerry Jones, with the resources and 764 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 1: the intelligence that he has, can do what we've done 765 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: in fifteen years. He can do it in fifteen minutes. 766 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,919 Speaker 1: And he did it for the Salvation Army. And so 767 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: that it's leadership. It's also a guy who understands and 768 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: his daughter, a dynamite woman, understand how to do, how 769 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: to promote, how to market, and how to get this 770 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 1: thing done. And they don't understand failure. By the way, 771 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: that is true. That is true. Well, we will be 772 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: celebrating National Medal of Honor Day all days day on 773 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: three twenty five. General Brady, thank you so much for 774 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: your service us, Thank you so much for joining us here, 775 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,880 Speaker 1: thank you for the time, thank you for everything that 776 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: you're advocating for. Everything that you're doing. It was great 777 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: just spend a few minutes with you and learn a 778 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: little bit more about today and what that means and 779 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,839 Speaker 1: your involvement in all this. So we really appreciate that 780 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 1: my play here got Cowboys there, you go, get together. 781 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: We're gonna get it together this year, I hope, so wet. 782 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: We got the team. We just gotta get it done. 783 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: So again, thanks to get it done. We gotta get 784 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: it done. Thanks for your time, and we'll be right 785 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 1: back on our next segment of hanging with the boys. 786 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: How great would it be to travel to watch the 787 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys win on another team's turf? Pretty great, But honestly, 788 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,479 Speaker 1: just watching the game from anywhere but your house would 789 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 1: be fun. Even a hotel bar was some guy named 790 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: Phil from Saint Louis who thinks Oakland still as a team. 791 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: So whether you're traveling to the game or watching from 792 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: your favorite vacation spot, book a place to stay on 793 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: hotels dot com Road partner of a Dallas Cowboys. 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Download the Seiki Gap today and when 819 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: the time is right, let's go see geek back to 820 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: hang in with the boys. Welcome back to the show. 821 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: To our AT and T Stadium, the home of the 822 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Run on the field, see the locker rooms, 823 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,640 Speaker 1: and so much more. Tours are available daily. For details, 824 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:56,839 Speaker 1: visit att stadium dot com slash tours. All right, let's 825 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: get let's have some fun with Jesse. Let's just get 826 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,760 Speaker 1: it out of the way. What's up, Nate? What's up? Nate? What? 827 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 1: What's up? Name? Hey? Hey? What did I do? Man? 828 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: I just gotta have a segment where you give us 829 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,799 Speaker 1: your experience. What you spis in the in the in 830 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: the stadium. Okay, I'm giving the stadium. Maybe the next 831 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 1: show Monday, Okay, one day when it slows down, after 832 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 1: we get through the draft and before we get the 833 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: training campus, and I going on, I'll give you We'll 834 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,840 Speaker 1: do a whole show of my stadium experience. How's that? 835 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: How's that? Can't wait? All right? I'm always a little 836 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: bit nervous when you guys do these surprise segments about 837 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: this isn't to you, guys, this is a shade what 838 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: you shouldn't. No one knows what's going on, but which it's. 839 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: It's kind of fitting that during the break we were 840 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: actually talking about basketball and Jesse actually had his basketball 841 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: in his hand and was spinning it on his finger 842 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 1: before we yes see, there you go. So I kind 843 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: of thought Jesse might know what this segment's going to 844 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: be about, because I'm not sure. Do you watch The 845 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,400 Speaker 1: Star at Night man, Jesse? Do you watch that program 846 00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com with Kelsey Charles with Yeah, yeah, Well, 847 00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: they decided to hell, they decided to have a little 848 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: fun with bracketology and our own Cowboys version, and Caden 849 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: Gates was responsible for this idea. So shout out to 850 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 1: Caden because it was a great idea. Caden sent out 851 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,320 Speaker 1: a poll to a lot of Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 852 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,640 Speaker 1: He calls them experts, I don't know if that's the 853 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: right word, but personalities, we'll say personalities. And he wanted 854 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 1: to know who we thought former and current Cowboy players 855 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: would be the best one on one basketball players. So 856 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: everybody got a vote. And the way that the rankings 857 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,959 Speaker 1: went is if if you received a first place vote 858 00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: for the seating, if you received a first place vote, 859 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: that person got eight points. If you got a second 860 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: place vote, you got seven. Third we get six, and 861 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. So once we got the rankings, 862 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: he took that bracket to the show The Star at 863 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: Night and he presented that to the panel which consists 864 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,839 Speaker 1: of Rob Phillips, Dallas Cowboy dot Com, Dallas Cowboys dot 865 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 1: COM's very own Rob Phillips, Dave Hellman, Kelsey Charles, and 866 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: he let them vote on who moved on to the 867 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: next round. And the rankings went like this. This is 868 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: the way the bracketology. And we'll roll the clip here 869 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: in a second, but just to set it up, your rankings. 870 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,840 Speaker 1: From one through eight, Rico Gathers was the number one seed. 871 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,760 Speaker 1: Martellis Bennett was the number two seed, our own Jesse Holly. 872 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: Jesse Holly was a number three seed, right above Terrell Owens, 873 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 1: Marcus Spears, Cornell Green ray Field, right Tony Romo. So 874 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: the brackets were set Rico versus Tony Romo, Marty B 875 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: versus ray Field, Jesse versus Cornell t O versus Marty B. 876 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: And we'll just roll the segment and see how this 877 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: played out. All Right, the next one we have very 878 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: own Jesse Holly, and I like this one too because 879 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: it's Cornell. So, guys, I did not realize the accolades 880 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: that Cordell Green has because he never played it down 881 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,839 Speaker 1: with football. Utah State coach called Tom Landry and was like, 882 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: I've got this incredible basketball player. He's just a freak 883 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: of nature. You've got to take a chance on him. 884 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 1: So the Cowboys said, okay, sure, we'll do this experiment, 885 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 1: pay him a thousand dollars. In thirteen seasons, five Pro 886 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,880 Speaker 1: Bowls later, in two positions, You're like, how are you 887 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: gonna fight that one? How are you going to fight 888 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: that well? I mean, I know that's not fair, that's 889 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: not fair, Jesse Holly. Guys, We'll go ahead and give 890 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: the resident because Jesse, our guy deserves this, laying it 891 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 1: unc as incredible as it is, Like what an institution 892 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,799 Speaker 1: he did win a championship with them, and I mean 893 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: he was just one of those guys that came in 894 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: and had to stir up plays and really get the 895 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:50,680 Speaker 1: momentum going. So he was definitely a contributor to an 896 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: incredible organization. You're being very diplomatic, and that's lovely Jesse. 897 00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,919 Speaker 1: I've worked with Jesse. I love Jesse. He's great. He's 898 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 1: got a championship ring. Nobody can ever take him away, 899 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: take that away from him. Last time I checked his 900 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: jersey's not retired anywhere. Uh. And to your point, Kelse, 901 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: I didn't know most of that about Cornell Green. Like 902 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: I knew he was a football player, I did not 903 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: know that he was such a stud on the hardwood. 904 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: And I think even Jesse would understand. I mean, I 905 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 1: gotta take Cornell Green. And I don't think it's a 906 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: very hard decision. Rob. We're being honest here, that's all 907 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: we're doing. Yeah, Jesse may or may not have had 908 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: a vote in this initial compilation, so I think he 909 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 1: has a saying probably his own his own game, and 910 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: he might be watching this eventually. Anyway, I'll just go 911 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: ahead and go with Jesse and give Kelse the tying 912 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: vote because I think, look, Dave makes some great arguments, 913 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,399 Speaker 1: but he did play on a national championship Carolina team 914 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,240 Speaker 1: at least I want to say four first round picks, 915 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 1: maybe three or four first round picks, just to get 916 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,160 Speaker 1: some run on. That's why you gotta be pretty good. 917 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: Oh that was so that answer was impressing that office 918 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: politics at its finest passing grade my grade. Uh yeah, Jesse, 919 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: I think you're awesome and you could totally be he 920 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: and probably anything whatsoever athletics wise. So I would just 921 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 1: like to put that out there before. I don't choose 922 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: you because I think Cornell Green is going to get 923 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,439 Speaker 1: my vote. It's just I was reading his resume. It's 924 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 1: so insane, and so I have to pick him. Oh no, Jesse, 925 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: you got it. You were a victim of run. You 926 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,800 Speaker 1: ran into a bus saw that no one even really 927 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: knew that accolades. I know many Cornel Green should have 928 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 1: been the top seed. They had him what seventh, Uh yeah, sixth? Yeah, 929 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,600 Speaker 1: Cornell Green is a monster basket, jesse Man, Jesse the 930 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: three seas set by Cornell greene the sixth Sea. But 931 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 1: jessef it makes you feel ain't better? Cornell went on 932 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,000 Speaker 1: to win the whole thing, So go ahead. He was 933 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: drafted by the in the NBA. Yeah, go ahead, Jess. 934 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 1: So here's my biggest thing. Here's my biggest thing is 935 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 1: that I know people know me and recognize me from 936 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: fourth and long and from my time with the Cowboys 937 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: and small time with the Patriots, small time with the Bengals. 938 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: I get it. But my basketball number, like going back 939 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: to high school, like I was. I was an All 940 00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,440 Speaker 1: American in high school in two sports. I was recruited 941 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: by some of the top schools of the country to 942 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 1: go play basketball, Like I was recruited by North Carolina 943 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 1: when Matt Dardy was there. He got fired before I 944 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,560 Speaker 1: actually before I got there, and that's where the roy 945 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: Will situation came in. I'm my schools all time leading 946 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: scorer was I'm one of the top thirty guards in 947 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey state history. Think about this New Jersey, New York, 948 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Connecticut that try to state are here where 949 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 1: some of the greatest basketball players have ever come out 950 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 1: of I mean I was in that number. I was 951 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 1: in that number, and I went to the smallest school. 952 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: I went to a small I went to a then 953 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 1: equivalent of a two A school, and I'm up there 954 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: with schools like Saint Patrick's and the school that the 955 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 1: Hurlings went to Saint Benedict's and Saint Anthony's and all 956 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:28,240 Speaker 1: those schools and big, big time schools all across the city. Uh, 957 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: I served, will have my jersey retired at my high 958 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 1: school and the all time in the score, I'm a 959 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,840 Speaker 1: state champion, I'm a state MVP. H if I wanted to, 960 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: if I wanted to, I opted to not continue playing basketball. 961 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,720 Speaker 1: And had I stayed playing basketball, the next year after 962 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: we after those four first round picks top we had 963 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: four lottery picks, by the way that went up to 964 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: that old five class. We had the number two, four, ten, 965 00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,399 Speaker 1: and thirteen pick off that championship team. Once those guys left, 966 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 1: I woant have started next year. I would have started 967 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 1: the next two years if I had stayed playing basketball. 968 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,280 Speaker 1: But I decided. But I wanted to take my skill 969 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 1: to the to the football field, to the gridiron. And 970 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 1: that's why I stepped away from basketball. But man, God Lee, 971 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: I get no credit soever. David Hellman kicked my back in. 972 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 1: You got credit. You got beat by man. You got 973 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: beat by a guy that got drafted by the NBA. 974 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: There's no shaming that, Jesse. There's no shamer. If I 975 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,919 Speaker 1: would have stayed playing basketball, I probably would have gotten 976 00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: drafted in the NBA. Maybe not, maybe not, but but 977 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: probably Jesse. No, it's all good, I know. And here's 978 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 1: the funny thing about So here's a funny thing about that. 979 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,839 Speaker 1: And you guys, you guys, you guys will be able 980 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: to read through the line with this one. When when 981 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 1: when all these because I got the same email and 982 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,880 Speaker 1: asking to rank these guys. You know, they had a 983 00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: bunch of guys on and asked to rank these guys, 984 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,919 Speaker 1: and a course, I picked me first. I'm not gonna 985 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 1: not pick me first. I'm gonna pick me. And I 986 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: still even think I got played basketball with Martellis Bennet 987 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 1: and I played with Rico Gathers. I played with both 988 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: of those guys. Yes, they're taller than me, but they're 989 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 1: not more skilled. To me, Marty b is a hell 990 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,840 Speaker 1: of a player. Though Rico Gathers is not more skilled 991 00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 1: than me. He's bigger than me, but he's not more 992 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 1: skilled than me. I don't even he loved the league. 993 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,319 Speaker 1: He loved the nation in rebounding. Okay, great, cool, that's fine, 994 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: but we're talking about one on one he wouldn't win. Um. 995 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 1: But I know that there. There was someone who was 996 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 1: kind of upset that I picked myself one. I won't 997 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: say the name. You can kind of all guess who 998 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 1: the name was within our organization when this thing went out. 999 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 1: He was kind of upset that I put myself to 1000 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 1: be number one. You know what I'm saying. That type 1001 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 1: of thing happens. You know, those type of guys, they 1002 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,880 Speaker 1: just don't want to see, you know. And he probably 1003 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't talk enough to do anything athletically anyway. But yeah, 1004 00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: he was upset that, uh, that I put myself number one, 1005 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: you know sometimes but you know, he never he never 1006 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:04,240 Speaker 1: said to me ever in my face. But yeah, okay, 1007 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 1: well Jesse, sorry if we hurt, if you need a 1008 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 1: hug whenever we're back listen. I'm in the I was 1009 00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: in the top eight of a Hall of Famer. You know, 1010 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 1: there's a there's a bunch of there's a bunch of 1011 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 1: top players in there. Man, There's there's some there's some 1012 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 1: future Ring of Honor players in there. There's a Hall 1013 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: of famers in there. I mean, I mean this hit 1014 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: draft picks in there. This hit home, man, I thought, 1015 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 1: I am telling you, man, this really hit home. This 1016 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,440 Speaker 1: is a sore subject. Like I thought this was gonna 1017 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: be a piece of a part of a segment, just 1018 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: turned into like a full segment. Who's the top eight again? Yeah? Yeah, 1019 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna be like I'm really nice in basketball, 1020 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 1: Like I'm really I can really go, like I can 1021 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 1: really play basketball, like really really like I can play. 1022 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 1: I think we found out like you can call Jesse 1023 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: a bumb on the football field and he shouldn't have 1024 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: been there. But if you if you tell Sea basketball, 1025 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 1: it was Rico Gathers, Rico Gathers, Mark tell Us, Bennett, Jesse, 1026 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:13,400 Speaker 1: Holly TiO, Marcus Spears, Cornell Green, Rayphiel Right, Tony Robs Spears. 1027 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 1: Was that deal? Now? They left some guys. He got 1028 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: a hold of them. He got a hold of one 1029 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 1: two minute biscuits. They left some guys off to what 1030 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: gumbo they did? Jesse, Jesse? Who all of you? Who 1031 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 1: all have you played with on that list? Marty b 1032 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 1: everybody he played with, Spears? Uh, anybody who's like in 1033 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 1: my age bracket, Tony Romo, TiO, How would you, right, Michael, 1034 00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 1: how would you rank those guys personally? Since you played 1035 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: with them, you you obviously number one. We got that 1036 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: we got that. Who would you rate second out the 1037 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: right sick at third four? I would go Marty B 1038 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,800 Speaker 1: number two. I would go Marty B number two. I 1039 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 1: would go TiO number three, uh, Tony number four and 1040 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: Rico number five. Really just because that's outside shooting on 1041 00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 1: one on one with Rico, Like TiO can go play. 1042 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 1: TiO plays in those he plays in those celebrity tournaments 1043 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 1: and he's usually the high score man. Can go yeah, Tony, Tony. 1044 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 1: Tony is just like Tony is the point guard on 1045 00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,840 Speaker 1: the basketball court, like he's the like he's the quarterback 1046 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: on the football field. Like if you look at him, 1047 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:22,120 Speaker 1: he goes this, this dad boy looking dude really can't play, 1048 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 1: and then he goes out there and he's like, ah, 1049 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 1: and he's gonna buy you. Like he looks like the 1050 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,200 Speaker 1: dad boy and can really play, got a nice little 1051 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,040 Speaker 1: mid range game, can pass the ball really well. His 1052 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,040 Speaker 1: court visiting, and he's a quarter the quarterback. He's super smart. 1053 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: Martella's Bennett is six foot seven and is an athlete, 1054 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: Like that's just and Rico is the saying like Rico 1055 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 1: is strong, he can jump, he can't shoot the save 1056 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 1: his life, like literally if he can't shoot the save 1057 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 1: his life. But he's big, he's strong, and he's athletic. 1058 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 1: But TiO can go. Tony can play um Spears. His 1059 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,240 Speaker 1: knees are bad now he's a little heavy, but go 1060 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: back and look at Spears what he was doing in 1061 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,919 Speaker 1: high school. He left like he was nice. He left 1062 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 1: the old school guys who they leave out. Well, you know, 1063 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 1: I got Percy Howard was gonna get drafted by the NBA. 1064 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,760 Speaker 1: He didn't play. Pete gent from way back in the day. 1065 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 1: He led Michigan State and scoring three years. Oh wow, 1066 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Tuta Jones was recruited to play back. I had him 1067 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: on my list. Nate who when used to travel you 1068 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: had to travel basketball teams before we get out of here. 1069 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Who who is your Who are your top five? In order? 1070 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Who are the best guys? Mike? I would probably say Dion, 1071 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: Mike uh Harper, those guys. Those guys was nice. They 1072 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 1: were nice. I remember Dean saying, said, Dion said he 1073 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,680 Speaker 1: could play in the NBA. He said, he said, I'll 1074 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: average ten to twelve points a game. He said, he said, 1075 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm he said, I'm I'll be the fastest guy out there, 1076 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 1: so I'll get four points off fast break layups. He said, 1077 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: I'll go to the free throw line four times, so 1078 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,360 Speaker 1: I'll get another four points. At the free throw line, 1079 01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 1: he said, I'm gonna get a put said I'm gonna 1080 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: get a put back. That's another two points. They said. Eventually, 1081 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit a jump shot while I'm out there. 1082 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: So the I said, I know to the league. Isn't 1083 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 1: he gonna play like for the Falcon, I mean the Hawks, 1084 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,800 Speaker 1: like kind of a publicity thing at one time when 1085 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: he was out there, he was playing for the Braves 1086 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: and the Falcons already, and he was gonna suit up 1087 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: for the for the Hawks. I think it was talked 1088 01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, but I'll tell you what, man, But 1089 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 1: we were knowing a whole lot of sports have been 1090 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,360 Speaker 1: great after least that could have crossed over, and few 1091 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 1: that did. So, you know, but Jesse, I apologize that 1092 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,080 Speaker 1: they didn't give you number. I'm sorry. I didn't even 1093 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,160 Speaker 1: make like I was out. I was out first round. 1094 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,959 Speaker 1: At least let me make to the second. I thought 1095 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,120 Speaker 1: this was gonna be fun, man, and I like Jesse. 1096 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: We sent him off and he might not recover from this. 1097 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: I hope you get you all right, Jesse, he need 1098 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 1: to talk. Recover, You need to talk after the show. 1099 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 1: You got my number, call me all right, man, I 1100 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 1: will hang in there, buddy, all right, we'll come. It's 1101 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 1: good seeing you man. You Yeah, miss bump through the glass, 1102 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Nate Jesse. Hopefully we get you guys back in here 1103 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: with the suit. Chris, thanks for keeping us over the air. 1104 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,479 Speaker 1: Good Jesse, Yeah, I mean you still look good. Jess, 1105 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,920 Speaker 1: You still good. Good. Cornell Green whooped you, but you 1106 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 1: still look good. None of them look like this though. 1107 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,000 Speaker 1: First Team and good day. We gotta go, We gotta go. 1108 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in. First Team will be back next week, 1109 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: Normal time, Slid thirty, Champion all same pay No, nobody 1110 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 1: will pay. With they together, I'm gonna be number one 1111 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: in the Hayes Hayes. This has been a production of 1112 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.