WEBVTT - Chuck’s Commentary - Democratic Dysfunction On Full Display + Branding Protest As “Hating America” Is Un-American 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:09.000 Hello, They're happy Thursday, and welcome to another episode of 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.440 the Chuck Podcast, our third for the week. Yes, I 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:17.040 am wrapping up my visit to the financial capital of 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:21.479 the world here in New York City. Gotten quite a 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:25.759 bit done, learned quite a bit at these various industry 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:28.800 summits that I'm learning both on digital media and in 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:33.320 the world of investment, in the world of the media space. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:35.959 Just wanted to be a bit transparent about what I'm 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.760 up to here. I actually have a notebook of items 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.320 I want to get to sort of I'm gonna sit 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:43.599 here and say, have one giant theme to me, it's 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.120 stuff that I want to alert you guys to that 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.800 I want to surface sort of things that I think 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:51.879 are percolating, that are coming around the corner. But we're 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.040 going to go ahead and start with a quick update 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.360 on the shutdown. And I say that because I don't, 0:00:57.400 --> 0:01:00.000 you know, there's really nothing to update. As my friend 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:03.080 and Brendan Buck tweeted our early on Wednesday, he said, 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:04.320 there was not a single story I think it was 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.800 in the Wall Street Journal of the Washington Post about 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:11.000 any update on the shutdown, and it was just it's 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:18.760 it is not having a impact in the larger media space. 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.080 And again it goes back to one reason. You know, 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:26.360 we are now organized. Whether that's good or I'd saying 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:28.240 this is a good thing, this is just the reality. 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:34.240 But the entire political media ecosystem is really organized around Trump, 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:39.160 and Trump's just not engaged at all in this shutdown. 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.559 My friend George Conden, who works over at National Journal, 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:44.800 he's been there a long time, long enough that he 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.200 and I were colleagues at National Journal before I left 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:51.000 to go to NBC. He did some terrific analysis on 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.880 sort of the lack of engagement by this president on 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:58.080 the shutdown issue, and he compared it to the big 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.440 shutdown that happened in his first term and how engaged 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.480 he was in there. So I want to read a 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.760 little bit from Condon's story here in National Journal this week. 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.440 Since the current shutdown began in October one, Condon rights 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:13.400 Trump has met in the Oval Office with the leaders 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.840 of Canada and Finland. He's traveled to Israel in Egypt, 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.040 and he's meeting this week with the presidents of Argentina 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:22.440 and Ukraine. He has not met with any Democratic Party leaders. 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:27.480 While the trip Israel in Egypt made a lot of 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:30.680 sense no matter what. It is worth noting that Trump 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.880 is also planning later this month to go to Malaysia, 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.160 South Korea, and Japan. These are more routine trips. Their 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:41.480 meetings with these various international associations at the United States 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.280 dabbles in the Asia Pacific Economic Conference APEK. It's known 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.520 as the Association of Southeasts Asian Nations. These are all 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.880 places that the United States likes to be a part of. 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:57.359 They're basically collections of Asian countries that want to put 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.720 a check on China in some form or another. What's 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:04.679 interesting is that these summits always take place around this 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:07.000 time of year, and if we were in a government shutdown, 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:11.080 both Bill Clinton Barack Obama didn't go to these events. 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.800 If they were in the middle of a shutdown. Both 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.000 of them thought it was a bad political look if 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:20.520 they were continuing the business of the country overseas, spending 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.320 money overseas while people weren't getting paid there. And Donald 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:26.840 Trump himself during and this is where Condon did some 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:32.520 terrific analysis. In the thirty five days between December twenty second, 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.240 twenty eighteen and the reopening of the government on January 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:39.160 twenty fifth, twenty nineteen, Donald Trump tweeted. Back then he 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:41.640 was tweeting there was no truth Social. He hadn't been 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.880 deplatformed from Twitter yet. He tweeted thirty seven times about 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.680 the shutdown, and the post projected a mix of frustration 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:52.680 and sense of urgency. That was the thirty five days. 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:54.680 So far, we've been in this shutdown for fourteen days. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:57.040 Trump has posted only seven times on the shutdown on 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.600 truth Social, and he's only posted twice since the second day, 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.360 so twelve of those were in the first essentially thirty 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:07.240 six hours. But since then he has posted thirty two 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.200 times on foreign policy, sixteen times in the Middle East, 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.800 five times on the Nobel Peace Prize, eleven times on 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.479 his grievances with the FBI, the Russia probe, and Jim Comy. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:20.960 It goes back to what I've said now for I 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:25.760 don't know three straight podcast openings, which is this is 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:30.440 going nowhere until Democrats find a way to engage Trump. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:35.320 The congressional Republicans cannot negotiate without Trump in the room. 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.039 They have no standing, right. Mike Johnson has no He 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.640 cannot do this without Donald Trump. He has never been 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.000 able to pass a vote without the help of Donald 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.320 Trump among House Republicans. So there is you know, the 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.640 only entity to negotiate with is the White House, and 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:56.040 the fact that Democrats can't get Trump to engage. Trump 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.960 doesn't want to engage. Whatever it is. This and again, 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.719 and I will say the same thing that I said 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:07.279 twenty four hours ago. Every day now that this goes 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.080 is one day less that this becomes politically. You know, 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.680 I know that Democrats think they've won something out of 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.599 this so far, and I think that you can. I 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.440 think it's clear that they've made healthcare a bit more 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.920 front and center on the mines, and we're now seeing 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.240 other reasons why healthcare. You're going to see the premium 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.560 notices go out on November first. That will get some attention. 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:33.960 It's why I think actually that the Democrats probably made 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:37.320 a tactical mistake in triggering this shutdown when they did. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.240 I think they would have been better off triggering the 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:42.839 shutdown after those premium hike notices went out of November first, 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:47.840 not before. But the problem they have now is every 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.200 day this goes on, more damage is done to the 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:54.640 federal government. Russell Voyd fires more people, targets more blue areas, 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:56.960 I want to get to that in a minute, and 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.320 Creds may start to lose sort of the momentum that 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.840 they believe they were getting on the healthcare issue. Again, 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.160 Democrats are terrible about declaring victory. They don't know how 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.120 to ever act like they've won something and when they're 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:16.880 actually they're actually winning this argument. But the longer they 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.839 go they will not They will lose whatever they've gained here, 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.760 and you can kind of tell they're kind of flailing here. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:26.919 I don't think Schumer knows how to get Trump in 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:32.240 the room. That's clearly a problem. Jeffreys doesn't. So if 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.479 they're the two lead negotiators here, it's in that sense, 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:37.560 if you can't get in the room to negotiate with 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.880 the person you have to negotiate, you're not doing a 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:45.200 very good job leading here. So this is I don't 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:49.960 think this is going to age. Well, we'll see, but 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.599 again Trump's not engaged. That's a huge issue. But I 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.479 want to point out something this sort of the way 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.599 that Trump administration is targeting things and and sort of 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:03.520 how stuff their math is. So we've seen that Russell 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:08.240 Voyd omb he's trying to essentially cut programs or cancel 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:14.240 funding or suspend funding. And it's targeting blue areas, right, 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:20.880 They're targeting the Democratic agencies, the Democratic this prominent geographic 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.360 areas they've targeted, or you know, funding for things in 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.240 and around LA County, funding for things in and around Chicago, 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:29.360 and funding for things in and around New York. Well, 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.600 one of the things I'd love to remind and I 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.520 and I just did a data deep dive on this. 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:40.280 So Donald Trump received one point one eight nine million 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:46.360 votes in LA County. Okay, Yes, Kamala Harris got one 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.920 point three million more than him. Okay, it is a 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:53.280 blue county. But the raw number of Republican votes that 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:55.400 Donald Trump received in LA County one point one eight 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:59.160 nine million. That is more raw vote than he received 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:07.960 in fifty states that he carried Alaska, Arkansas, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:12.320 North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, West Virginia, and Wyoming. 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:16.720 There are more Trump voters that they're punishing in LA 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:23.040 County than any of those fifteen states that I talked about. 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:27.080 This administration's inability to understand that they're supposed to be 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:31.080 the president of the entire country. When they start nitpicking 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.840 at quote unquote blue areas or blue states, they're punishing 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.480 a lot of people that supported them, a lot of 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:42.440 their own supporters who have it comes across as if 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.320 they have no respect for the system and no respect 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.000 for some of their own voters. And by the way, 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.680 in Cook County he received over five one hundred and 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:55.400 eighty thousand votes. Well, in case you're wondering, that's more 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:57.840 raw vote, all right, he got crushed in Cook County. 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.800 It is a blue county, but total was more than 0:09:01.840 --> 0:09:05.120 the raw votes he got out of Alaska, out of Idaho, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:09.000 out of Montana, out of Nebraska, out of North Dakota, 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:14.319 out of South Dakota, out of Utah, and out of Wyoming. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:20.360 That's eight states. It's it is, it is sort of. 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.120 It really is a bit self defeating. And by the way, 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.240 you want to add more states to that. He received 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.120 over eight hundred thousand votes in the five boroughs of 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.920 New York City. When you put that together, and that 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:36.080 would mean more votes than what he got in Alaska, 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:38.200 more votes than what he got in Kansas, more votes 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.960 and what he got in Mississippi, more votes than what 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.280 he got in West Virginia. So you see the point 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:48.760 I'm making here, This sort of what they think the 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:54.640 own the Libs move is right, They're just attacking hundreds 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:59.720 of thousands of their own voters. Now maybe they think, oh, well, 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.240 this will teach those Trump voters from living in these 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:06.679 blue areas, I guess. Or maybe they're trying to punish 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:12.320 the Democratic voters and get whatever whatever they think they're accomplishing. 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:19.240 They're not accomplishing with this. So it is this is 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:23.480 this may unfortunately end up motivating Democrats to keep sticking 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:28.360 this out because they are it is triggering the Trump 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.240 administration to do a lot of dumb things. Here the 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:35.040 House Republicans are behaving bizarrely. Here Mike Johnson's inability to 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:39.240 swear in a duly elected member of Congress in a 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:44.440 now certified election down from Arizona at Alita Grialva, the 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.080 daughter of Raoul Garalva, who passed away a few months ago. 0:10:49.360 --> 0:10:52.120 I have to tell you I am not the quickest 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.679 person to jump down a conspiracy theory hole. Don't get 0:10:55.679 --> 0:11:00.760 me wrong. I'll let me a good conspiracy theory. But 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.040 it's hard to now now I understand why all the 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:07.679 Epstein folks are saying, Hey, what are they afraid of? 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:11.760 Are they really afraid of seeing this vote forced? I mean, 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.040 it's a it's a headst Obviously, Mike Johnson's trying to 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.760 prevent putting Republicans on the record on these Epstein files, right, 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.600 they don't. And that's there's no doubt there's something here 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:28.400 where Republican leadership is petrified of forcing because guess what 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.200 this If the Epstein vote does hit the floor of 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:36.480 the House, it's going to get four hundred votes because 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.000 you're gonna have all the Democrats vote for it, and 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.080 you're going to have at least one hundred if not more, 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:43.720 Republicans vote for it because they don't want to be 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.160 on the record. It's somehow not voting it. And it's 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.520 actually a safe vote because the Senate isn't ever going 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.640 to you know, this is just simply a vote in 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:56.880 the House. So it is the only motivation I can 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.440 see if Epstein really is the motive, And I don't 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.440 know any other reason other than Epstein at this point, right, 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:07.080 Johnson is really sort of losing his rationale. He keeps 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.600 changing his rationale, so it's making it's making even the 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.280 biggest skeptic like me think, wow, you guys are this 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:17.640 paranoid about the Epstein files vote. Unbelievable? So what is 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:22.160 the paranoia. It is about a whole bunch of Republicans 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.599 not wanting to upset Donald Trump who doesn't want this 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:28.480 vote to happen. That's pretty clear. And we know many 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:31.520 of these House Republicans have been so public in their 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:34.440 demand for the Epstein files to be released that they 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.720 that they cannot go back to there. They're afraid of 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.840 going back to their constituents and not having to do that. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:45.800 So it is a it is It is fascinating to 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.920 watch this. I do think this is what happens right 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.719 the shutdowns. It's sort of like when you may think 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.040 you know how to start one, but nobody it is 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.280 amazing how hard it is to end one, even though 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.040 logic lee. And again this goes back to a rant 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:07.800 from two weeks ago. The government should never be allowed 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:11.160 to be put in this situation. And the fact that 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:14.199 the government just decides that it is going to abide 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:18.319 by this absurdity that we somehow aren't going to pay 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:22.320 our bills if there's a funding dispute in Congress is 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:25.600 no way to run It's no way to run a country, 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.600 it's no way to run a company, it's no way 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:31.080 to run a household. No rational person would behave this way, 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:36.360 but unfortunately Washington is filled with the irrational. The big thing, 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:40.000 one of the big moments this weekend we're going to 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.120 learn a lot, a little bit about sort of language 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:48.480 and all this stuff is the No King's protest. There's 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:53.680 been some really disgusting language. The Speaker of the House, 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:58.439 Mike Johnson, described the planned protests. I don't think it 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.679 will end before the Hate America Rally on the ball 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.440 on Saturday, where all the Marxist and Antifa people and 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.319 all the people who hate Trump and hate America will 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:10.880 be there. This idea that if you don't, if you 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:14.360 protest something Donald Trump does, you hate America is the 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.559 single most undemocratic thing you can actually accuse a fellow 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.600 American of doing. The whole point of being in America 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.240 is the right to disagree. We founded this country on 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.520 a fuck you Britain man. Yes, I'm not going to 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.800 apologize for it, but this is one of those that 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.600 this is who we are. We have the right to 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.400 flip the bird at people. We have the right to protest. 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.840 It is smack dab in the First Amendment. And one 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.120 of the dumber arguments that you hear people say is 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:45.680 well somebody paid for a protest, Well, who gives a shit? Sorry, 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:50.160 I get and this stuff. It's it's just this is 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.880 do you know nothing about the founding of this country 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:58.440 When you sit here and and essentially accuse anybody of 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:01.560 protesting their government as being on a American It is 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.280 the most American thing you can do, the most patriotic 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:10.040 thing you can do, is to protest your government, because 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:14.000 in this country it is it is a right, not 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.800 a privilege. It is a right written into our constitution. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:22.840 So the behavior I'm old enough to remember when these 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:28.240 were the free free speech absolutionists, right, which then brings 0:15:28.320 --> 0:15:33.440 me to the JD Vance defense of those awful telegram 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.840 chat techs that were released on from the young Republicans. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:40.600 The whole thing is such a weird story. I mean, 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:45.120 first of all, it is this, Here's what's troubling, right 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:50.480 that these young Republicans believe there's a they've been given 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:56.280 a permission slip by the MAGA movement in Trump to 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:00.000 just casually talk about gas chambers and Nazis and all 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.760 all this hateful rhetoric. What's really troubling is that these 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:08.560 young Republicans think that this is this is okay in 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:13.040 the new Trump dominated Republican Party. We are in this 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:16.520 moment right and I connected back to the incredibly rude 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.080 behavior of the golf fans at best page Black. This 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:25.000 is we are culturally. Donald Trump has culturally changed us, 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.920 and there are many people who think the best way 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:34.440 to become Trump is to behave like these hooligans did. 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:39.400 What's interesting here is how they're all there's this weird 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.480 Apparently one of the guys involved says, this is part 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:46.040 of a long conspiracy theory. This is what the political 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:50.160 article noted, and this gets it to the bizarre world 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.080 of MAGA and this I think you know how the 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:56.720 whole lower lumer nonsense works. So one of the young 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.880 Republicans claim that the release of the chat is part 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:03.000 of a quote highly coordinated, year long character assassination led 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.480 by a guy named Gavin Wax and the New York 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:11.919 City Republican Club. Everything is always a conspiracy and people 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.280 sort of a grievance against them and all of this 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:23.639 it is it really is sort of it to me, 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:27.840 is emblematic of the culture that has been created in 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.240 this young mega movement. And what's interesting is the lack 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.560 of consistency among those that try to champion speech and 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.199 free speech right. This in some ways is you know, 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.960 you know, if you want to be anti woke, apparently 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:41.960 it's become a permission slip to say whatever the hell 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.400 you want about anybody, right, That is what's anti woke. 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.639 What's fascinating, though, is to watch people like JD Vance 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:54.280 trying to apologize for these for these folks, but say 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.640 that these awful things that are being said by these 0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:01.119 young Republicans, hey it's just nothing but a college group chat. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.640 But the leaked text from the former Virginia delegate who's 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:07.520 running for attorney general in Virginia, J Jones, you know 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:11.159 that those are much worse. Here's the thing. If you 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.880 believe that there should be no speech police at all, 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.600 which is what the mag of movement and Jade Vance 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.639 campaigned on and Donald Trump campaigned on. Jade Vance went 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:25.760 to Europe to lecture Europeans on speech. But there's and 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.280 he's always willing when somebody on his side of the 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.560 aisle says something stupid, They should be forgiven. When somebody 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:36.240 he doesn't like says something stupid, they should be prosecuted. Okay, 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.359 this is somebody who does not understand the Constitution. I 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:41.760 know JD. Van's Vance went to Yale Law School. I 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:43.879 assume Yale's going to ask for their law for their 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.000 degree back because he does not understated. He clearly didn't 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:51.080 pass constitutional law with with what he's doing here. But 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:55.840 what's really frustrating here is the fact is both are shameful. 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.960 The fact that Jay Jones fantasized about what he did 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.560 shameful and disqualifying. And the fact that these young Republicans 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.320 behave this way is incredibly disqualifying. And those that are 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.600 losing their jobs deserve to lose their jobs. Okay, they 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:14.120 need to make they do need to pay a penalty 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:18.640 for what they did. It's free speech, but nobody says 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:22.120 there aren't consequences for your behavior and for your speech. 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.000 But the fact that JD. Vance does not understand that 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.240 this is a culture that's being created on the right 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:33.280 that's celebrating the anti woke has turned into permission to 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:39.439 say anything and a celebration of hateful rhetoric. If you 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.800 don't like hateful rhetoric thrown at you, then you should 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.880 denounce hateful rhetoric that's thrown at others. And if you're 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.760 uncapable of doing that, then you're incapable of being a 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.960 leader in the United States of America. I know I'm 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.440 sort of preaching to people who understand this and those 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.800 of you that listeners sort of you guys are coming 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:02.879 from the rationally frustrat I assume uh is most of 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.119 most of the folks. 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I'm 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:54.960 old enough. My first professional year covering American politics was 0:22:54.960 --> 0:23:00.560 the ninety two campaign. That was a year of brand 0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:04.160 new districts, and at the time, the Bush forty one 0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:07.200 Justice Department worked pretty closely with the Congressional Black Caucus 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.400 to interpret the Voting Rights Act in such a way 0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:15.439 to essentially try to create as many majority African American 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:19.040 seats as they could in the South. And the reason 0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.920 this was one of those the Congressional Black Caucus wanted 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:27.040 to increase its ranks, and the Bush forty one Justice 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:32.119 Department wanted to pack more Democrats into pack more Democrats 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.439 into fewer districts. What would that do? So one of 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:38.920 my favorite examples at the time, there was eleven congressional 0:23:39.000 --> 0:23:43.880 districts in Georgia at the time in nineteen ninety Democrats 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:48.600 had eight Democratic House seats and Republicans had three by 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:52.240 nineteen ninety two. In January of ninety three, I believe 0:23:52.240 --> 0:23:55.399 it went from eight. It literally was eight three again, 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:58.320 eight Republican seats and three Democratic seats, and I believe 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:01.040 all three Democratic seats were African Geordie, African American or 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:06.720 at least plurality African American. So I'm not so sure 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:10.240 that this. You know, again, everybody thinks they understand how 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:14.280 easily they can pack, crack and pack districts, do the 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:17.840 hub and spoke model as we've seen, you know, But 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:23.840 if this idea that if if you don't have to 0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:27.280 do a majority African American district, that this is automatically 0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:30.960 going to help. If more Democratic vote gets dispersed to 0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.719 more congressional districts in a given geographic area, you may 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.080 see a lot more swing seats in the in the sunbought. 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:41.520 This may be a lot harder to Jerrymander than many 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:45.960 folks are thinking today. So look a few things to 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.040 keep in mind with this Supreme Court argument. It does 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.920 seem as if Roberts and Kavanaugh are looking to put 0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:56.600 an end date to the Voting Rights Act on Section two. 0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:58.639