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Speaker 1: Hello, They're happy Thursday, and welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Chuck Podcast, our third for the week. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: am wrapping up my visit to the financial capital of

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Speaker 1: the world here in New York City. Gotten quite a

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Speaker 1: bit done, learned quite a bit at these various industry

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Speaker 1: summits that I'm learning both on digital media and in

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Speaker 1: the world of investment, in the world of the media space.

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Speaker 1: Just wanted to be a bit transparent about what I'm

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Speaker 1: up to here. I actually have a notebook of items

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Speaker 1: I want to get to sort of I'm gonna sit

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Speaker 1: here and say, have one giant theme to me, it's

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Speaker 1: stuff that I want to alert you guys to that

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Speaker 1: I want to surface sort of things that I think

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Speaker 1: are percolating, that are coming around the corner. But we're

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Speaker 1: going to go ahead and start with a quick update

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Speaker 1: on the shutdown. And I say that because I don't,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's really nothing to update. As my friend

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Speaker 1: there was not a single story I think it was

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Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal of the Washington Post about

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Speaker 1: any update on the shutdown, and it was just it's

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Speaker 1: it is not having a impact in the larger media space.

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Speaker 1: And again it goes back to one reason. You know,

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Speaker 1: we are now organized. Whether that's good or I'd saying

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Speaker 1: this is a good thing, this is just the reality.

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Speaker 1: But the entire political media ecosystem is really organized around Trump,

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Speaker 1: and Trump's just not engaged at all in this shutdown.

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Speaker 1: My friend George Conden, who works over at National Journal,

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Speaker 1: he's been there a long time, long enough that he

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Speaker 1: and I were colleagues at National Journal before I left

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Speaker 1: to go to NBC. He did some terrific analysis on

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Speaker 1: sort of the lack of engagement by this president on

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Speaker 1: the shutdown issue, and he compared it to the big

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Speaker 1: shutdown that happened in his first term and how engaged

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Speaker 1: he was in there. So I want to read a

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Speaker 1: little bit from Condon's story here in National Journal this week.

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Speaker 1: Since the current shutdown began in October one, Condon rights

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Speaker 1: Trump has met in the Oval Office with the leaders

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Speaker 1: of Canada and Finland. He's traveled to Israel in Egypt,

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Speaker 1: and Ukraine. He has not met with any Democratic Party leaders.

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Speaker 1: While the trip Israel in Egypt made a lot of

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Speaker 1: sense no matter what. It is worth noting that Trump

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Speaker 1: is also planning later this month to go to Malaysia,

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Speaker 1: South Korea, and Japan. These are more routine trips. Their

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Speaker 1: as the Association of Southeasts Asian Nations. These are all

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Speaker 1: They're basically collections of Asian countries that want to put

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Speaker 1: interesting is that these summits always take place around this

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Speaker 1: time of year, and if we were in a government shutdown,

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Speaker 1: both Bill Clinton Barack Obama didn't go to these events.

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Speaker 1: If they were in the middle of a shutdown. Both

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Speaker 1: of them thought it was a bad political look if

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Speaker 1: they were continuing the business of the country overseas, spending

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Speaker 1: Trump himself during and this is where Condon did some

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Speaker 1: terrific analysis. In the thirty five days between December twenty second,

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Speaker 1: twenty fifth, twenty nineteen, Donald Trump tweeted. Back then he

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Speaker 1: was tweeting there was no truth Social. He hadn't been

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Speaker 1: deplatformed from Twitter yet. He tweeted thirty seven times about

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Speaker 1: the shutdown, and the post projected a mix of frustration

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Speaker 1: and sense of urgency. That was the thirty five days.

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Speaker 1: So far, we've been in this shutdown for fourteen days.

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Speaker 1: Trump has posted only seven times on the shutdown on

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Speaker 1: so twelve of those were in the first essentially thirty

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Speaker 1: his grievances with the FBI, the Russia probe, and Jim Comy.

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Speaker 1: It goes back to what I've said now for I

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Speaker 1: don't know three straight podcast openings, which is this is

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Speaker 1: going nowhere until Democrats find a way to engage Trump.

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Speaker 1: The congressional Republicans cannot negotiate without Trump in the room.

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Speaker 1: They have no standing, right. Mike Johnson has no He

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Speaker 1: Trump among House Republicans. So there is you know, the

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Speaker 1: the fact that Democrats can't get Trump to engage. Trump

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to engage. Whatever it is. This and again,

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Speaker 1: other reasons why healthcare. You're going to see the premium

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Speaker 1: It's why I think actually that the Democrats probably made

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Speaker 1: a tactical mistake in triggering this shutdown when they did.

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Speaker 1: I think they would have been better off triggering the

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Speaker 1: shutdown after those premium hike notices went out of November first,

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Speaker 1: not before. But the problem they have now is every

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Speaker 1: day this goes on, more damage is done to the

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Speaker 1: federal government. Russell Voyd fires more people, targets more blue areas,

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Speaker 1: Creds may start to lose sort of the momentum that

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Speaker 1: Democrats are terrible about declaring victory. They don't know how

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Speaker 1: actually they're actually winning this argument. But the longer they

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Speaker 1: and you can kind of tell they're kind of flailing here.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Schumer knows how to get Trump in

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Speaker 1: the room. That's clearly a problem. Jeffreys doesn't. So if

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Speaker 1: they're the two lead negotiators here, it's in that sense,

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Speaker 1: if you can't get in the room to negotiate with

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Speaker 1: very good job leading here. So this is I don't

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Speaker 1: think this is going to age. Well, we'll see, but

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Speaker 1: again Trump's not engaged. That's a huge issue. But I

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Speaker 1: want to point out something this sort of the way

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Speaker 1: They're targeting the Democratic agencies, the Democratic this prominent geographic

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Speaker 1: So Donald Trump received one point one eight nine million

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Speaker 1: nine million. That is more raw vote than he received

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Speaker 1: There are more Trump voters that they're punishing in LA

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Speaker 1: This administration's inability to understand that they're supposed to be

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Speaker 1: the president of the entire country. When they start nitpicking

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Speaker 1: they have no respect for the system and no respect

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Speaker 1: for some of their own voters. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: in Cook County he received over five one hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty thousand votes. Well, in case you're wondering, that's more

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Speaker 1: raw vote, all right, he got crushed in Cook County.

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Speaker 1: It is a blue county, but total was more than

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Speaker 1: the raw votes he got out of Alaska, out of Idaho,

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Speaker 1: That's eight states. It's it is, it is sort of.

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Speaker 1: It really is a bit self defeating. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: you want to add more states to that. He received

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Speaker 1: over eight hundred thousand votes in the five boroughs of

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Speaker 1: I'm making here, This sort of what they think the

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Speaker 1: this will teach those Trump voters from living in these

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Speaker 1: They're not accomplishing with this. So it is this is

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Speaker 1: this may unfortunately end up motivating Democrats to keep sticking

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Speaker 1: House Republicans are behaving bizarrely. Here Mike Johnson's inability to

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Speaker 1: swear in a duly elected member of Congress in a

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Speaker 1: now certified election down from Arizona at Alita Grialva, the

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Speaker 1: I have to tell you I am not the quickest

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Speaker 1: person to jump down a conspiracy theory hole. Don't get

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Speaker 1: see if Epstein really is the motive, And I don't

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Speaker 1: Johnson is really sort of losing his rationale. He keeps

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Speaker 1: paranoid about the Epstein files vote. Unbelievable? So what is

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Speaker 1: the paranoia. It is about a whole bunch of Republicans

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Speaker 1: So it is a it is It is fascinating to

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Speaker 1: the shutdowns. It's sort of like when you may think

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Speaker 1: the cheap commentary has come. You know, there's just a

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Speaker 1: lot of so much of our reporting and commentary just

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Speaker 1: comes from does this help the left, does it hurt

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Speaker 1: the left? Does its help the right? Doesn't hurt the right,

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Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes you just don't know. You can

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Speaker 1: have a larger conversation about whether do we need this anymore?

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Speaker 1: Do we not be this? We're going to have disenfranchisement

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Speaker 1: of African American voters and of African American representation, which

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Speaker 1: was the whole point of the Voting Rights Act. That

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Speaker 1: needs to be the conversation that's had. Everybody is trying

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Speaker 1: to apply it to gerrymandering and redistricting. It's why, I

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Speaker 1: tell you, if you just looked at it through the

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Speaker 1: data lens, this isn't as clean as the commentary is

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Speaker 1: making it seem. The other interesting news over the last

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours so yesterday I made it. At least

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, I made a bit of a deal about

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Speaker 1: the main Senate primary, Graham Platner, the Oyster farmer, Janet Mills,

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Speaker 1: the sitting governor. For what it's worth, the DSCC claims

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Speaker 1: that they have not endorsed in the primary, but they

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Speaker 1: set up a joint fundraising committee with Janet Mills. Now

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Speaker 1: they've set up joint fundraising committees in the past with

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Speaker 1: multiple primary candidates. I'll be curious to watch the d

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Speaker 1: SCC here do they set up a joint fundraising committee

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Speaker 1: with Graham Platner, do they offer to send one to

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Speaker 1: actually put some uh to make the case that they're

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Speaker 1: not taking sides, or maybe they want donors to think, no,

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Speaker 1: we have a preference here and this is how it's

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Speaker 1: going to work. How are they going to operate in Minnesota?

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Speaker 1: How are they going to operate in Michigan. I'm curious

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Speaker 1: with both of those primaries where they we'll see, well,

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen in Iowa, what's going to happen

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Speaker 1: in these senate races in the Texas Senate race. So

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Speaker 1: I am curious to see if, if if the d

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Speaker 1: SEC is serious about making it clear they're not endorsing

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Speaker 1: Mills in this primary, because they're operating as if she's

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Speaker 1: their preferred candidate. But then Kirsten Jelburn, who is the

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Speaker 1: d SEC chair, said said that they that they would

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Speaker 1: not do an official endorsement. Look, Platner is already on

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Speaker 1: the air, the U a W has already taken sides

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Speaker 1: and isn't sing Platner in this one. And I also

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Speaker 1: think the fact that another New England state is going

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Speaker 1: to have another sort of generational primary and the big

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Speaker 1: one is Seth Moulten, Democratic Congressman from Massachusetts deciding the

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Speaker 1: primary Ed Marquis. This is actually the second time Ed

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Speaker 1: Markey's had to deal with a Democratic primary that was

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Speaker 1: more or less more of a generational argument, and he

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Speaker 1: turned it into an ideological argument. In his initial race

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Speaker 1: for the Sea against Joe Kennedy the third Joe Kennedy

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Speaker 1: essentially Marky Randa Kennedy's left had the backing of AOC.

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Speaker 1: In particular, he had become sort of a big champion

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Speaker 1: of the Green New Deal, and I think he's counting

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Speaker 1: on that this time. Seth Moulton comes from a bit

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Speaker 1: more of the of the middle, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: you call mainstream liberal versus or you know, sort of

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Speaker 1: a closer to the center than Markie is. So it's

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Speaker 1: going to be an interesting test of so Platner and Mills. Platner,

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Speaker 1: I think, arguably presents himself as is more populous, more

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Speaker 1: progressive than Janet Mills. In the case though, of Molten

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Speaker 1: and Markey, it's Markey that is going to make the

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Speaker 1: case he's more progressive, but he's going to be on

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Speaker 1: the older side, So it's gonna be interesting. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of democratic groups out there calling for generational change.

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Speaker 1: The question is is it generational or is it ideological?

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Speaker 1: The Markey Molten primary is going to test how many

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Speaker 1: of these young groups are actually more focused on ideological

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Speaker 1: purity than generational change. If Molten gets the same support

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Speaker 1: that Platner gets from many of these groups, then maybe

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Speaker 1: it really is generational. But if Markey and Platner have

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Speaker 1: more endorsements in common then than than than Molten, uh,

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Speaker 1: then then if you know, if it's it's sort of

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Speaker 1: sort of if Moulten and Mills have sort of more

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Speaker 1: of the same endorsements than Platner and Markey or whatever

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Speaker 1: that works out, then you'll know that this is more ideological.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be fascinating to watch to watch

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Speaker 1: that Molten candidacy. There two other nuggets I want to

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Speaker 1: mention before letting the weekend go. One is back in

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Speaker 1: Virginia a G two. Both are having to do with

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Speaker 1: TV ads that I really would like you guys to

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Speaker 1: take a look at. One is a new ad from

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Speaker 1: the Republican Attorney General in Virginia, Jason Mires addressing Abigail

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Speaker 1: Spaanberger voters. And what's interesting here is so in the

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Speaker 1: Virginia Governor's race, Winston Earl Sars, who's basically thrown spaghetti

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Speaker 1: at the wall to try to make to try to

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Speaker 1: pick up ground on Spamburger, has been desperately trying to

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Speaker 1: use the texting controversy of the AG's race to try

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Speaker 1: to make look like Spamberger is somehow supportive, won't denounce

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Speaker 1: Jones enough. But guess what. The Mira's campaign has obviously

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Speaker 1: decided Spamberger's already has got this race in the back.

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Speaker 1: So they've got an ad out that essentially says, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: Spanberger refuses to endorse j Jones, and they play clips

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Speaker 1: from the debate where she will not reiterate her endorsement

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Speaker 1: for Jay Jones. She's asked multiple times during the debate,

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Speaker 1: and she will not. She says it is up to

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Speaker 1: everyone's individual decision on how they're going to vote in

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Speaker 1: that race. Essentially, it was Spanberger giving her permission slip, going,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not vouching for this guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: certainly not going to put my campaign in jeopardy to

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Speaker 1: help out this guy. And she made that clear during

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Speaker 1: the debate. She didn't say don't vote for him, but

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Speaker 1: she didn't say to vote for him. Now you got Winston.

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Speaker 1: Merl Sears' campaign is trying to say, aha, it means

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Speaker 1: she secretly supports them. Jason Miaris Republican Attorney Jay are

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Speaker 1: going aha, See she doesn't. She's giving you a permission slip.

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Speaker 1: The ad is addressed to Spanburger voters, essentially saying, look,

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Speaker 1: she's giving you she may not be voting for him.

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Speaker 1: She's not comfortable with it. You don't have to be

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Speaker 1: comfortable with it either. It's a fascinating ad. It is

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Speaker 1: a subtle way of Mirs throwing winsome Earl Sears under

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Speaker 1: the bus, going look, we know she can't win. We

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Speaker 1: know who the next governor's going to be. So hey,

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Speaker 1: Abigail Spamberger, voters, are you sure you want this guy?

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Speaker 1: J Jones is the chief law enforcement officer anyway. A

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Speaker 1: fascinating development in that race, and frankly kind of predictable

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Speaker 1: because it did seem it some I've said this before.

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Speaker 1: If the governor's race were closer, Spamberger would have called

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Speaker 1: for him to get out of the race. I think

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Speaker 1: the fact that it isn't closer. She's trying to not

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Speaker 1: engage in that issue, or engage in it as little

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Speaker 1: as she possibly can. And now in some ways Mirs

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Speaker 1: has just inoculated her because he's going to be up

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Speaker 1: with an ad that's probably going to have more money

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Speaker 1: behind it than what Winston Earl Series is. If you're

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Speaker 1: the in Earl Series campaign, you hate this ad. You're

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Speaker 1: frustrated because it is essentially me are is giving Spamberger

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Speaker 1: a pass and in some ways inadvertently praising the fact

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Speaker 1: does undermine whatever last minute strategy the Winston Earl Series

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Speaker 1: campaign thought was going to work for them. And then

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Speaker 1: one other ad I want to alert you to because

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Speaker 1: it it is, and yes it's you know, I have

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Speaker 1: a feeling that if somebody wanted to develop a drinking

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Speaker 1: contest with my podcast, it would be how often he

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Speaker 1: mentions Florida. Well, I'm about to mention Florida, So drink.

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Speaker 1: There is a new Senate candidate that jumped in the race,

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Speaker 1: a gentleman by the name of Hector Muhika. He is Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: He has worked with Google in the past, and it's

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Speaker 1: he's got this personal video that he's put out and

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Speaker 1: background potentially is interesting and we'll see if he can

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Speaker 1: get traction. And he's been he was a Google he

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Speaker 1: worked in Google phil philanthropy for a while, handing out

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Speaker 1: Google money. My guess is he must have some of

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Speaker 1: his own. We'll see if he's going to use some

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Speaker 1: of his own. But what I wanted to alert you

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Speaker 1: were sort of two policy hits that were AI related

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Speaker 1: that he used in this. As you know, a few

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Speaker 1: weeks ago, I said, I have a feeling that come

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, the most animating issue that you're not

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Speaker 1: going to be able to run for president and not

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Speaker 1: have a some sort of answer to a voter concern

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Speaker 1: about AI job displacement. Right, fear of AI job displacement,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a real thing or not by twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: eight won't matter. The fear of it is going to

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Speaker 1: be an issue. Well, this Muhika announcement video touches on

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Speaker 1: it in a couple of ways that I hadn't seen.

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Speaker 1: So he attacks Ashley Moody, who's currently who is the

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Speaker 1: appointed senator to replace Marco Rubio, who, of course has

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Speaker 1: been who's the Secretary of State, National Security Advisor, head

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Speaker 1: of the Archives, and maybe the chief dog walker two.

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure what other jobs that Trump has

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Speaker 1: made him have on that front. But when he could

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Speaker 1: hit her and said she is basically on the side

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Speaker 1: of the AI. You know that she cheered on the

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Speaker 1: federal job cuts which put clean water and all this

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Speaker 1: stuff in danger. She is for using AI to get

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Speaker 1: rid of human jobs. She is for AI to set

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Speaker 1: medicare pricing. I found it to be an interesting hit,

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Speaker 1: and it was clearly here's the Google exec using fear

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Speaker 1: of AI as an attack. I don't think he got

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Speaker 1: it quite right. For what it's worth, I think AI

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Speaker 1: using AI itself is sort of a double edged sword.

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Speaker 1: I think those who know know what AI is are

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Speaker 1: sort of are a sort of tech optimists, and you

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Speaker 1: don't want to be seen as the candidate not on

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Speaker 1: the side of progress a more. But I do think

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Speaker 1: an older electorates are going to be a bit skeptical

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Speaker 1: and fearful of AI. And the smarter way to probably

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Speaker 1: go about this is to say, do you want a

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Speaker 1: computer deciding what you're what the pricing is on medicare

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Speaker 1: or do you think you know or do you think

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Speaker 1: that you know human beings should be involved in those decisions.

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Speaker 1: Do you want a computer deciding whether your insurance covers this,

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Speaker 1: or do you think human beings ought to be involved

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Speaker 1: in that decision. I think talking about it as a

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Speaker 1: computer rather than using the phrase AI probably will make

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Speaker 1: it more effective. But the real reason I'm learning to

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Speaker 1: this ad is I think this is this is my canarios.

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Speaker 1: It's the first one I've seen in a Senate race

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six to start to put AI in

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Speaker 1: the mainstream political conversation and fuse it with healthcare pricing,

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Speaker 1: fuse it with job displacement. I have a feeling he

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Speaker 1: will be the first that this is. He's not going

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Speaker 1: to be alone in using AI this way. So again,

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Speaker 1: take a look at it, see how he did it.

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Speaker 1: I Like I said, I think if you're a political

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Speaker 1: strategist here trying to trying to figure out how do

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Speaker 1: you talk about AI without sounding anti progress, there are

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Speaker 1: probably ways to do it that just talk in the

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Speaker 1: form do you want a computer deciding these things? Or

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Speaker 1: do you want a human being who understands the impact

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Speaker 1: on your life making these decisions. That is a conversation

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Speaker 1: that I think voters do want to have. And I

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Speaker 1: go back, I think that in a larger sense, I

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Speaker 1: think the big the release of the Sora video app. Right,

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Speaker 1: We're already two weeks into it, and it feels like

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Speaker 1: you can't trust any video now that you see on

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Speaker 1: social media. It is going to put a premium on

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Speaker 1: human interaction, live in person interaction, and even perhaps in

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Speaker 1: the digital realm, being at least live streaming at any

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Speaker 1: one time, but the premium. I did this when I

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Speaker 1: was doing this talk at this industry conference earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: I asked for a show of hands, how many of

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Speaker 1: you would pay extra if you knew you could get

645
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Speaker 1: a human customer service rep. And literally two thirds, This

646
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: is a crowd of about five hundred people. Two thirds

647
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: of people put their hands up. It is I do

648
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: think this is why I'm weirdly optimistic about all about Right,

649
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: the unintended consequence of AI advancement may be reminding people

650
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: the importance of human connectivity. And if that ends up

651
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: being the unintended consequence of the rise of AI, is

652
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: that so bad? If we end up deciding, hey, the

653
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: human element is more valuable than ever that, my friends

654
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: would be serious progress. Well, I hope you enjoyed that

655
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: tour of the world with my friend Mike McFall, and

656
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: do get the book. Yes it's a readable book. Yes

657
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: it's a big book. Okay, both things can be true.

658
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: And it's a good long holiday weekend set of reading.

659
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: So maybe it's something you think about for either your

660
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 1: the Turkey week or the end of the year holidays.

661
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's do some questions and then I'll do

662
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: my little college football preview for the week as Chuck.

663
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: This comes from Chase c Little Rock, Arkansas. Anyways. Well

664
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: after another derailed Arkansas Razorback football season. Sigh, my uncle

665
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: Joe concur, I've shifted my attention to the new season

666
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: of The Morning Show. Giving your experience in the industry,

667
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: I'm curious how closely does the show reflect the inner

668
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: workings of a real network news operation. Is it anywhere

669
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: near reality? Pure dramatized fiction. Would love to hear your take.

670
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: Oh man, all right, you're gonna get my whininess about

671
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: this stuff. It is. It is more fiction than real.

672
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: Do they get you know? I would argue in the

673
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 1: first season you know, and look, I'm never, never a

674
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Speaker 1: fan of these shows as much that involve things that

675
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: involve entities that I've actually been a part of or

676
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: have covered. Right, you know, the West Wing used to

677
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: frustrate me because it is just not how Washington worked.

678
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: It is. It is Veep right, that is more likely,

679
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: certainly at least how the how, the how, how how

680
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: Washington politicians behave and how they really are. Veep is

681
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: more accurate. And it doesn't matter the party of the person.

682
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: The sort of the lack of self awareness, the the

683
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: narcissism that Julia Louis Dreyfus's character emits is all very

684
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: much in line. You talk to any political operative left

685
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: and right and they would say, oh, yeah, Veep is

686
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: much closer. So, you know, I used to because I

687
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: do think some people watch it and think this is

688
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: the way it should be, and I just would argue,

689
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: the West Wing has never been that way. It is

690
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: literally a utopian version of how life works, or actually

691
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: life never has worked, at least in the political sense.

692
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: And I would argue with the you know, I felt

693
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the Sorkin work, which I love, Right,

694
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: It's just like I love a few good men. But

695
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't know the jag world that well, and I'm

696
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: sure it doesn't work that way in real life, right

697
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: that Tom Cruise is going to, you know, bendering away

698
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: at Colonel Jessop and all of that. So I just

699
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: I'm just, you know, I'm suspect on the Morning Show.

700
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: It is based loosely in a book that was written

701
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: by Brian Stelter about the Morning Show Wars. So what

702
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,439
Speaker 1: I would say is that there was a time when

703
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: there was these outsized personalities. There were the executives behind

704
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: the scenes who felt that they were star makers. We

705
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: will designate you an anchor and you must leave, you know,

706
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. And there was some truthiness that

707
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: that is the way it is, but it is really

708
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: more of a twentieth century phenomenon. It led into the

709
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Speaker 1: twenty first century. I mean the I to this day

710
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: don't know if Matt Lauer made the amount of money

711
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: that was reported about him. For those of us even

712
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: within it was a shocking amount, and it certainly made

713
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people related to me assume that I

714
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: was far wealthier than than I am, or I made

715
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: far more money than I actually did. It was always

716
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: an I'll be honest, it was a bit uncomfortable. How

717
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: often it's like, what am I going to do? Go

718
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: out there and say, no, that's just you know. I

719
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: did get a piece of advice once from somebody that said,

720
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: if you never want, if you never want your how

721
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: much you make to leak in the public, don't tell

722
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: anybody because the minute you tell one person somebody is

723
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, outside your basically immediate family, it's going to

724
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 1: get out. And the fact is, nobody's ever accurately had

725
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: my ever had because I've never told anybody. I refuse.

726
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't tell any extended family member, Nobody, nobody's business,

727
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: nobody should. These larger contracts, a lot of times there

728
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: are people that want to brag that they were able

729
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: to get that amount of money for somebody. So maybe

730
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: it's an agent, maybe it's a lawyer, maybe it's whatever.

731
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the principle themselves think that it somehow makes

732
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: them a bigger star if they're seen as being worth

733
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: a certain amount of money. So I would say what

734
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: the Morning Show captures sort of what that world was

735
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: like when I first entered it in twenty eight, twenty

736
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: oh seven, twenty eight and twenty oh nine. But literally,

737
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: by the time of the end of the Great Recession

738
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen, the place stopped. You know,

739
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: it was sort of it is, you know, you stopped

740
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: having the larger than life anchors who could get executives fired.

741
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: I did see that in my early days. So, you know,

742
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: the way to watch the morning show is this is

743
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: the way that this world worked for about the first

744
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: decade of the twenty first century. This is not how

745
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 1: the world of Today's show works or Good Morning America.

746
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not saying that there isn't some attempt

747
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: in the world of Page six and some of these

748
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: other gossip columns to try to create drama where there

749
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: isn't any, but it has doesn't have near the amount

750
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: of drama because frankly, the stakes have never been lower. Right,

751
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: everybody's losing audience. The fight for exclusives isn't the same anymore.

752
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: But you know, if you were asked me, when is

753
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: the morning show sort of peak? Sort of the zeitgeist

754
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: of it that it's trying to capture in reality is

755
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 1: somewhere Serkha, I would basically say the peak morning show

756
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: power was probably mid nineties to twenty to twenty twelve,

757
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: and in that sense that that culture which the Morning

758
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: Show still seems to lean on is that. But I

759
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 1: will make a confession I won't watch it. I watch

760
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: enough to understand where they're going, because I don't even

761
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: want to see how they're trying to portray people that

762
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: I know and they're not portraying them correctly. I don't

763
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: even want to get into that game, and so it

764
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: is kind of why I kind of I'm not a

765
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: viewer of the show anyway. All right, next question comes

766
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: from mattam. Hey love the new podcast. I come for

767
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: the political analysis and stay for the college football talk.

768
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: I appreciate saying that there's more college football is coming up.

769
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: In a few minutes. You mentioned how the new rules

770
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: have made FBS football feel more like the NFL. But

771
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on fcs and Division two and

772
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: three programs as the truer representation of college athletics. My

773
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: alma mater, Presbyterian College is a great example. For years

774
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: of struggle, they've turned things around and are now six

775
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: and oh, proving that good leadership and love of the

776
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: game still matter. Matt, m Look, I do think you're

777
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: going to see. It's going to be interesting about the

778
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: way D three works and actually how D three could

779
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: end up being sort of for the love of the

780
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: game division on that front, and obviously with some D

781
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: two in that. But I emphasize D three because my

782
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: beloved University Miami Hurricanes won the D three hockey championship

783
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: and they're a W REC team. They never actually are.

784
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: They don't play, they're not a Division one team. They

785
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: don't have an on site facility to practice in or

786
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: anything like that. I think the I think there will

787
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: be somewhere something in between REC and this professionalized minor

788
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: league football that's being created, right which will you know,

789
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a whole bunch of

790
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,959
Speaker 1: Division I schools go down to D three. There won't

791
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: be scholarships, and so it will be more of the

792
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: for the love of the game type of stuff, and

793
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: I you know, in that look, sports is still important

794
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: to alumni. Sports is still I'm very friendly with the

795
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: president of GW where I went. She's new president, Ellen Gramberg.

796
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: I'm biased. I think she's terrific. I think she's been

797
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: a breath of fresh air for the university. She views

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00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: sports as a way to build community. It's look, it's

799
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: there's a financial cost to it if you want to

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00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: be competing on that division IE level, and there's always

801
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: some set of donors that want to do that. But

802
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: she also believes that there's you know, wouldn't be a

803
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: surprise if you see a lot of the mid major

804
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: conferences sort of get cut in half because schools decide

805
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: they don't want to try to keep up financially to

806
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: try to be you know, even just mid level relevant

807
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: and Division I college basketball, for instance, and instead drop

808
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: down to D three and if you can still keep

809
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: a culture, I mean, because that sports does create community

810
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: on college campuses and content and that is part of

811
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: the student experience and it's becoming an important part of

812
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: recruiting students to apply to schools. So I'm hopeful. I

813
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: want it to be that. I want to have that nostalgia,

814
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: But I wonder if we start to see something that's

815
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: a little more that you have. And I'd love to

816
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: see the NCAA change these rules. I think every school

817
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: should be able to find something their Division one in

818
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: and right now, I think you can be Division one

819
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: in one sport and then and then Division three and

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00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: everything else. I think you have that in hockey, there's

821
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: a I think Colorado College is one of those, if

822
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: I if I'm not mistaken, I'd like to see that

823
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Speaker 1: more loosened up a little bit where you pick and

824
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: shows it. You know, because you're you're going to have

825
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: certain sports that maybe you have the alumni financial network

826
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Speaker 1: to support to be Division one, and then certain sports

827
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: that you don't, but you still want to have students

828
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: feel as if there's something to play for and compete

829
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: with and have in the world of Division three. I'd

830
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: love to see a little more flexibility there. I think

831
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: it's a way to sort of keep up the spirit

832
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: of amateur athletics and at the same time embrace this

833
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: new world that's going to that is the reality of

834
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: of of the revenues, the revenues generating sports in college.

835
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Speaker 1: All right, next question. Two part question here comes from

836
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Speaker 1: John from Frisco, Texas. I'm learning more about Frisco, another

837
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: one of these growing ex serb suburbs of the Dallas

838
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: area of the Metroplex. Anyway, two part question. Love the

839
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: show and have followed the podcast from your Meet the

840
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: Press days. Given Greg Abbot's enthusiasm for supporting the Trump

841
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: administration by sending the Texas guard to Chicago. Do you

842
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: think that the Texas governor is using the national notoriety

843
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: as a launching point towards twenty twenty eight in the

844
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: Republican nomination. You've mentioned that members of the administration maybe

845
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm twenty twenty eight, but may not have as much

846
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: of a resume to run on. Would Abbot be more

847
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: formidable in the primary? Also, what sorts of other non

848
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: political podcasts do you listen to? I think you mentioned

849
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: some economics ones. Would you name some of them here? Thanks?

850
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: Love the show. Go Caines John from Frisco, Texas. So, look,

851
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: I think Abbot wants to be would like to try

852
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,919
Speaker 1: to run for president. I think Dave Carney, his chief

853
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: political advisor, who I've known forever, one of the savvier

854
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: republic strategists out there, has some unique New Hampshire ties,

855
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: and he could certainly help Abbot there. I just don't

856
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: know if Abbot's going to be able to be I

857
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Speaker 1: don't know what his lane is, right. You know, one

858
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: of the stories that I meant to bring up at

859
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: the start of this podcast that I didn't get to

860
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: was the story about how Christy Nomes government paid ad

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Speaker 1: campaign praising you know, sort of praising President Trump for

862
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: the elevated deportations. It's funny the coverage of it is

863
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: being portrayed as you know, this ad campaign to support

864
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: the Trump administration. I look at it as a taxpayer

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Speaker 1: funded ad campaign to promote Christy Nome for president in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. The point is is that you have

867
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Speaker 1: Christy Nome wanting to run for president, Tulsey Gabbert wants

868
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Speaker 1: to run for president, RFK Junior wants to run for president,

869
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio wants to do it. Maybe he joins as

870
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: a ticket with JD Vance. What what do Donald Trump

871
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: Junior Eric Trump end up doing? I think they both

872
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 1: have some interesting ambition. Is twenty eighth the year that

873
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: they try to execute it? The point is is that

874
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: and then you have Rand Paul and Glenn Younkin who

875
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: are clearly going to not run as MAGA candidates. All

876
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: these other candidates I mentioned are all going to try

877
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: to be in the Magaline. What is Abbot going to do? Right?

878
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,720
Speaker 1: Abbott in some ways has succeeded in Texas politics because

879
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: he's been He's been somebody that hasn't been seen as

880
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: on one side or the other in this intra party

881
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: war that is happening in Texas. Right, Cornyn v. Paxton

882
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,919
Speaker 1: in the Senate primary is actually more than about John

883
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: Cornyn and more than you know, sort of a maga

884
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: versus the rhinos, whatever you want to to describe that.

885
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: If you're if you're on the snarky right, you know,

886
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,959
Speaker 1: it was it was a Republican controlled House of State

887
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: House or representatives in tech is that impeached Ken Paxton, Right,

888
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: it was. This has been a bipartisan effort, but it's

889
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: really been sort of a divide inside the Texas Republican Party.

890
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 1: And Abbott you know, is at times nervous about the

891
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Speaker 1: Ken Paxton and Dan Patrick wing. Dan Patrick the lieutenant governor,

892
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: and in Texas, the lieutenant governor in some ways has

893
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: more actual policy power than the governor, being the president

894
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: of the Senate and really sort of very much has

895
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: has a lot more influence at times on the legislature

896
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Speaker 1: than the governor does. But Patrick's clearly to Habbit's right,

897
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: Paxton clearly Tobbits right. Abbott definitely you know, came up

898
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: more through was an ag during the Rick Perry came

899
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: up through sort of the Bush and Perry years of

900
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: the Republican Party, and Perry, all you might say, is

901
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: slightly more conservative than w I mean, you know, Perry

902
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: is never you know, this is the guy that once

903
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: called Donald Trump a cancer on conservatism. We used to

904
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: run these clips so often. I used to know them

905
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: cancer on conservatism that he said multiple times the day

906
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 1: he dropped out of the race, and an attempt to

907
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: consolidate an anti Trump candidate back in the twenty sixteen race,

908
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: remember he ran twice. He was a front runner for

909
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: about two days until he couldn't figure out which which

910
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: of the three agencies he wanted to eliminate, and that

911
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: sort of went the campaign went south there. So I

912
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: just don't know if Abbot has a as a as

913
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: an easy lane. I think Abbot only becomes a viable

914
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: candidate if MAGA is seen as a broken ideology or

915
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: as a as a net negative in the Republican Party

916
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty eight. What's the likelihood of that, right?

917
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: I think, I definitely think Abbot's itching to do something

918
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: else and he wants to run for president. But I

919
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, I just I don't know what he doesn't.

920
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: He's not comfortably mega. He tries to be Mega adjacent,

921
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: but he's also you know, he does. He does end up.

922
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: I think he's a closet Chamber of Commerce Republican who

923
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: is trying to play mega and every once in a

924
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: while that comes through. So I don't see it. That

925
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he won't try. He's going to want to

926
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Speaker 1: do it. You know, he would be the third straight

927
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: Texas governor to try to do this. W did it.

928
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 1: Perry ran twice and it didn't go well, and you'd

929
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Speaker 1: have Abbot there. Abbitt's on the verge of Actually, Rick

930
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Speaker 1: Perry's the longest serving governor, and now Abbot, if he

931
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Speaker 1: wins this reelection, is going to end up surpassing that mark.

932
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Speaker 1: So I'm a I'm I'm a bit I'm a bit

933
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 1: more skeptical. So you're asking me my podcasts, how much

934
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: do I confess trying to see here? How much do

935
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: I confess to my some of these gambling podcasts that

936
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: I listened to, But you're asking what I listened to.

937
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 1: So I listened to Simmons, I listened to Kornheiser. Their

938
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 1: pals during football season. There's a couple of I like

939
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: the guys at the Action Network. Their football previews some

940
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: of the best. There's I can't even I keep forgetting

941
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Speaker 1: the guys. He goes by his last name his last

942
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: name only. I'm drawing a blank on it. I think

943
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Speaker 1: it's Sharky or Stucky. Excuse me. Sharky's another friend of mine,

944
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: a guy named Stucky. I enjoy his football previews. I

945
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 1: think they're very good. Other podcasts that I enjoy I

946
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: listened to something the White House sixteen hundred Sessions. This

947
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,160
Speaker 1: is basically the White House Historical Association. They always have

948
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: some fun sort of history nuggets about presidents. They have

949
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: one unpresidential Pets that I have found myself enjoying. The

950
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: Acquired podcast. These are these huge, long deep dives on

951
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: like how did Google become Google? And it's almost like

952
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: a like a biography of a company. They did one

953
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: on JP Morgan and had an hour long interview with

954
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: Jamie Diamond that I felt found just super fascinating. And

955
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, look, their podcasts are commitments, so sometimes you know,

956
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Speaker 1: they only put the big ones out once a month

957
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: because it takes almost a month to do that. I

958
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: enjoy the Bulwarks Hollywood podcast Sunny Bunch as sort of

959
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: an an entertainment culture that you know, talks a little

960
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: culture stuff in the media world I enjoy. I enjoy

961
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: both the Ben Smith podcast on Semaphore and Dylan Byers

962
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: on Puck. It's funny. I don't listen to many political podcasts.

963
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: I listened to sort of media podcasts on that front.

964
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: I'll listen to some issue specific stuff on foreign policy

965
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: and on domestic policy, and then I just grab highlights

966
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 1: of some of the other political podcasts out there that

967
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: I know have have that but as far as my

968
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: own personal those those are the ones that do and

969
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: I should. There's there's also there's one baseball card podcast

970
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: I consistently listen to. It's it's called There Is No

971
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: Off Season, I believe, is what it's called, and they

972
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: do a pretty good job of sort of assessing the

973
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: market for sports cards. So there, I probably revealed too

974
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 1: much about my habits, but you asked, and I thought

975
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Speaker 1: i'd chair. I'm gonna take one more question here and

976
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: do my little college football preview here. This comes from

977
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: Aaron from Skokie, Illinois Wire Conservatives attacking Bad Bunny's citizenship.

978
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: It's hard to believe they don't know he's an American citizen. Yeah,

979
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: I know, Puerto Rico is one of those. Apparently that's

980
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: one of those trick questions on the test right, just

981
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: feels like a blatant display of racism. If they were

982
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: honest and said they simply don't like that the Super

983
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: Bowl halftime show will be in Spanish, they might actually

984
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: find more agreement than they expect. I'm a Mexican American

985
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: but don't speak Spanish and his music isn't really my

986
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: style yet now, because of his backlash, even people like

987
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: me feel compelled to watch just to push back against

988
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: the hate. The idea of replacing him with Lee Greenwood

989
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: is laughable. There's zero chance that happens, right, pr Nightmare,

990
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: thanks for the show. Look, Aaron, you're you're not wrong,

991
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: and you know I'm now of the age that I

992
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: expect whoever's picked is somebody that isn't appealing to me.

993
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: You know, I know what the NFL is up to.

994
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: They're trying to appeal to a younger demographic, and they're

995
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: really trying to appeal to a more Latino demographic. The

996
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: the single, by the way, the single most streamed. You know,

997
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: I saw what was it? Ronda Santis attack Bad Bunny's like,

998
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't know who this guy is. Well,

999
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: he was only the most streamed artist in the state

1000
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: of Florida according to Spotify in calendar year twenty twenty four.

1001
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: So a lot of Ron DeSantis' constituents seem to know

1002
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: who Bad Funny is. But whenever you're picking any genre

1003
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: of music, you're gonna alienate people who don't like that

1004
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: genre of music. It, you know, I'm sure a lot

1005
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: of when they did the Who, there were a lot

1006
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: of people going, why are they doing old people music? Right?

1007
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: So it's a it's obvious to me this is it's

1008
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 1: almost always the halftime show feels like an attempt to

1009
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: talk to a demographic that the NFL feels like that

1010
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: they don't know how to talk to, and they use

1011
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: an artist to try to do that, and frankly, they're

1012
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 1: pretty smart about it. The NFL continues to grow its

1013
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: fan base. They're the most you know, the thing that

1014
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: everybody ought to respect here in the NFL. I think

1015
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 1: has learned this, you know, sort of figuring out how

1016
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: to try to get above the culture wars, right. Colin

1017
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 1: Kaeperne put them knee deep into the culture wars between really,

1018
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: Donald Trump suck them into the culture wars more than anything.

1019
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: But when you look at the demographics of football fans,

1020
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 1: it looks like the demographics of the country right when

1021
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean football is the single most sort of honest

1022
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: representation of the It is literally something like thirty seven

1023
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: percent Republican, thirty seven percent Democrat right, and everybody else independent.

1024
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the actual presidential electorate is represented.

1025
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: You know amongst football fans, most other sports have have

1026
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: a lean right. Baseball fans it leans right, golf fans

1027
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: it leans right, NBA fans lean left, NHL fans lean

1028
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: right like WNBA fans lean left. So you see, there's

1029
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: some of the sports you kind of like you could

1030
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: look you just look at the crowd when you see

1031
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 1: go to a game and you have an idea of

1032
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: the because our politics is in some ways is so

1033
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: identity based right now, But I would caution everybody be careful.

1034
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the NFL is America. It is a tapestry.

1035
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: It is the NFL fan base is the complicated picture

1036
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: of America that is an asset for the NFL. And

1037
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: I do think when it comes to their attempts to

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01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: do more outreach, particularly in the Western hemisphere. They've now

1039
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: had back to back years of games in Brazil. There's

1040
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind that I think Mexico City,

1041
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: at some point or Monterey, one of the two is

1042
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: going to have a major league sports franchise, and maybe

1043
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 1: it's an NFL team first, although the Dallas Cowboys, who

1044
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: have the largest number of fans in Mexico, actually don't

1045
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: want to see a Mexico City team because for the

1046
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 1: same reason they that they don't want a team in Austin,

1047
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: Texas either, even though that's a metro a metro area

1048
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: that actually could support one, because they want to have

1049
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: they want to have the demographic to themselves. They want

1050
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,439
Speaker 1: to make uh, they want to make money off of

1051
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 1: off of that demographic. So I find the whole thing

1052
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: it's just a pretty closed minded way of thinking. I

1053
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: look at this, when I see these decisions, I'm like, oh,

1054
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: I need to understand that this lad of the NFL

1055
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: is not picking somebody that isn't popular, Okay, So and

1056
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: I know that this is you know what, to me,

1057
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: the most amazing fact about what the NFL does is

1058
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: that they never pay the halftime they know, they like

1059
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: they basically say, if you you're going to make so

1060
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: much money becoming the halftime entertainment, we don't have to

1061
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: pay you. That is extraordinary. How powerful that that that

1062
01:04:53,440 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: the NFL has that kind of power. So this is

1063
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: the first of what are going to be a series

1064
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: of games for my beloved Miami Hurricanes where they're supposed

1065
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,439
Speaker 1: to win, and they're going to face a whole bunch

1066
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: of teams and they get the big target on their back.

1067
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: And if you want to make a name for yourself,

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01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: you've got a shot at doing it. I am petrified

1069
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 1: of this Louisville game. I'm glad it's first of all.

1070
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 1: These standalone games on Thursday and Friday are just always,

1071
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, feel like traps. You know, my wife's beloved

1072
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 1: Florida State Seminoles lost them this Friday night game at Charlottesville. Now,

1073
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: if this game we're at Louisville, I'd be a lot

1074
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: more nervous. In fact, Miami's been through tough games. Louisville

1075
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: has always seen Miami as an aspirational rival, is what

1076
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: I would call it. Miami. You know, like Louisville is

1077
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, right. They they had Howard celiber as a

1078
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: coach after Miami. They recruit sort of, you know, they

1079
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: try to recruit anybody that Miami rejects down in Miami.

1080
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: That you look at their roster, it's filled with a

1081
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: lot of South Florida guys. They actually won one of

1082
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: the bigger recruiting battles that I can remember about ten

1083
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: years ago, when they got Teddy Bridgewater. Teddy Bridgewaters should

1084
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: have been a University of Miami quarterback. We had a

1085
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: guy named Jacorey Harris at the time. Teddy Bridgewater was

1086
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: actually his replacement at the same high school that Jacorey

1087
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: Harris played at, Jack Cary. Harris was a full four

1088
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: year starter, very good. Bridgewater was better. Bridgewater didn't want

1089
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: to sit behind Jacorey for two or three years, which

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01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: is why I ended up going to Louisville. I'm convinced

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01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: had Bridgewaters come to Miami sat behind Harris would have

1092
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: ended up probably having well. It certainly would have helped

1093
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: Miami's football program in the early teens. But look, I'm

1094
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: nervous about it. You know, right now, it's Miami against

1095
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: themselves for the rest of their schedule. On paper, if

1096
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: you look at it analytically, they're going to be double

1097
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: digit favorites in every game they have left. To me,

1098
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: the nervous the games that I'm nervous about going forward

1099
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: for Miami. One is this Louisville game Friday night. And

1100
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: my daughter will tell you, traffic to hard Rock is

1101
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: our you know, it sucks on a Saturday. It really

1102
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: sucks on a Friday evening. So I'm nervous about the

1103
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: crowd attendance though this year Man Miami fans have turned

1104
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: out even for sort of the you know, the games

1105
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: that don't that aren't on the marquee, so I'm pretty

1106
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: pleased about that. But that game has me nervous. The

1107
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 1: game at SMU Road game that'll be for Miami's first

1108
01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: road game outside of the state of Florida on November first,

1109
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 1: And then of course the Pit game. That's the last game,

1110
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: that's our last regular season game of the year, and

1111
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: it's at Pit. We've struggled that Pit before when we

1112
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: were we blew a Pit game in twenty seventeen. We

1113
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: were on our way to and were already qualified for

1114
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 1: the a SEC title game, so it didn't really matter,

1115
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: except it was the beginning of sort of we lose

1116
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: to pit then we get pummeled by Clemson, and then

1117
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, Miami was a mirage. We were

1118
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: a ten and oh start and then we turned into

1119
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:18,839
Speaker 1: a mirage. So we don't have Georgia Tech on our schedule, thankfully,

1120
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: which is the other nemesis in Miami. So obviously Friday night,

1121
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: I think a lot of you will end up watching

1122
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: that game. I hope it's not a game by the

1123
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: second half. We shall see a couple of other games

1124
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: of note this weekend. You know, Brian Kelly will find

1125
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: out the Brian Kelly hot seat. You know how hot

1126
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 1: will his seat get in LSU? Well, he LSU's going

1127
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: to Vanderbilt. LSU's an underdog at Vanderbilt, right, And I'd

1128
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 1: love to know every week there's a new stat not

1129
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: since the nineteen forties is a ranked Vanderbilt team played

1130
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: another ranked team or not since the nineteen forties, has YadA,

1131
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: YadA YadA happened? Right with Vanderbilt, this is a hugely

1132
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: important game for both teams. If either team basically winners

1133
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: winner is this is a playoff elimination game, They're both

1134
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: five and one second loss for either one of them,

1135
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: I think puts them on a path to not make

1136
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: the playoff. And in l s Hu's case, it probably

1137
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: puts Brian Kelly on the hot seat Unloster Vanderbilt, so

1138
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: that'll be a big deal. Duke Georgia Tech. This has

1139
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech upset. I think they should be an upset alert.

1140
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 1: Duke's actually the favorite. It's a home game for Duke.

1141
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: If Georgia Tech loses before you know, loses before the

1142
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: end of their see, this is probably their toughest game

1143
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: left on their acc schedule. A little of course, play

1144
01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: Georgia at the end of the year and their and

1145
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: their annual rivalry game. But this is probably the game

1146
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to be putting in one of my four

1147
01:09:53,040 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: boxes at noon on Saturday. I would have put Ohio

1148
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: Wisconsin on this. I can't believe Luke Fickle still got

1149
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: a job. The embarrassment of getting shut out by Iowa

1150
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 1: after they supposedly did push ups, being embarrassed that they

1151
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,599
Speaker 1: gave up forty two points to Iowa the year before,

1152
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: and they were this focused on the Iowa game that

1153
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: I guess this time they only gave up thirty seven

1154
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: points instead of forty two points. Something ain't right in Wisconsin.

1155
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: I hate that Wisconsin football all of a sudden looks

1156
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,600
Speaker 1: like they did in the eighties. Right. Wisconsin football was

1157
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: a doormat in the eighties until they finally Frankly, it

1158
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: was the leadership with Dona Shalela, who spent more money

1159
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: hiring when she was the chancellor in the University of Wisconsin.

1160
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: She deserves a lot of credit for getting sort of

1161
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: both Wisconsin football and Wisconsin basketball sort of back off

1162
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: the mat into the sort of higher tier of Big

1163
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: Ten football. It's just something's wrong that Wisconsin. This isn't working.

1164
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: I you know, I can't imagine that they're going to

1165
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: get up for this Ohio State game, but you know

1166
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: it might be the only shot Thickle has to give

1167
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 1: himself one more year. One other game that I think

1168
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: a couple other games Texas A and M at Arkansas

1169
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: is it. Did Bobby Patrino give Arkansas a sort of

1170
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: one game dead cat bounced type of focus or does

1171
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: the Patrino difference carry over in a second week? And

1172
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,560
Speaker 1: if it does, this is a dangerous game for A

1173
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: and M on the road at Arkansas it's you know,

1174
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: you saw the game with Tennessee the one thing about

1175
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: Patrino he wants you know he's playing for this job.

1176
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 1: I think it's an absolute non starter. I cannot believe

1177
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: he's in a candidate to be coach again, considering all

1178
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 1: the drama there's a the athletic that are terrific sort

1179
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 1: of rundown of all the ways that he's been an

1180
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: untrustworthy person to hire, whether it was in his flirtations

1181
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: to go to other schools, let alone the infamous motorcycle

1182
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: incident at Arkansas, et cetera. But if he starts winning

1183
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: football games, as we know, winning changes everything, right, Winning

1184
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: cures a lot of concerns among donors or administrators. Upsetting

1185
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: Texas A and M would go a long way. So

1186
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 1: I don't think Arkansas is going to quit in this game.

1187
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: Katrino's going to keep throwing, going to keep trying to

1188
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: do trick plays, going to do all sorts of things.

1189
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 1: If I were an A and M fan, because I

1190
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: think A and M's best team in the SEC, I'd

1191
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: be really This game would really have me nervous, the

1192
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: way I'm nervous about Loloivlle. I think it's that time

1193
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 1: of game and them should win. But if you told

1194
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: me this were a field goal game in the fourth quarter,

1195
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me. And then, of course, the best story

1196
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: in the SEC this year is the is the new

1197
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: quarterback for old myth? Let me get his name right.

1198
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: I read a terrific story about him, Trinidad Chambliss. It's

1199
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 1: a It was for the Trinity. If he had been

1200
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: a girl, he was going to be Trinity. They decided

1201
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: to do Trinidad. It's been it's this guy is a

1202
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: as a marvel. And the fact that they couldn't believe

1203
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: what they saw his story. He was sort of a

1204
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: multi sport athlete, was was focused more on basketball, ended

1205
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: up playing D two football. Folks didn't realize how good

1206
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: he was at it, and lo and behold, he's quite

1207
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: the story. We'll find out. I don't know if either

1208
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 1: Georgia or Ole Miss is playoff quality, right, I you know,

1209
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: the Old Miss barely getting by Washington State last week.

1210
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: Maybe there was a look I had spot with Georgia.

1211
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fine with that, but Georgia needs to sort

1212
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: of have something to prove as well here. This is

1213
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: one of those It's not an eliminator for Ole Miss

1214
01:13:55,640 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: if they lose, but it is if Georgia loses. So

1215
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: this is an important in some way. It's a more

1216
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: important game for Georgia than anybody else after that. Alabama Tennessee.

1217
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: I know, Alabama Tennessee. This one also might be an

1218
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: elimination game, right not every two loss team in the

1219
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 1: SEC is going to make it, and the loser of

1220
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 1: this will have their second loss, so it's Alabama's of

1221
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: course doesn't have only this would be their first conference loss,

1222
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: so that is a bit of advantage here for them.

1223
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: Tennessee cares about the Alabama rivalry more than I think

1224
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: Alabama cares about the Tennessee rivalry. That's one of those

1225
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 1: big brother little brother games. I'm more of a believer

1226
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 1: in Alabama this one. I'm curious if they can get

1227
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: margin here. I expect them to get some margin. If

1228
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: they don't, maybe that tells us maybe maybe I'm not not.

1229
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: So that's all right about that. Notre Dame is this week.

1230
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: That's one of these great rivalries. My wife's got no

1231
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: attend one of those games at Notre Dame. It's one

1232
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: of those i'd like to I'd like to see. It's

1233
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 1: an important game for both teams. Obviously, every game is

1234
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: an elimination game for Notre Dame now with their two losses.

1235
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: As long as Texas A and M and Miami keep winning,

1236
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,519
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is going to make it into the playoff

1237
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: as a ten and two team. They will not make

1238
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 1: it to the playoff as a nine to three team.

1239
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 1: This is the toughest game remaining on their schedule, hands

1240
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: down the toughest game remaining on their schedule. So a

1241
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: pretty important game. And then I realized I should not

1242
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: be remiss. One of my favorite rivalry names is the

1243
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: Utah BYU game, The Holy War. I don't know is

1244
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: it politically correct to say the Holy War or not.

1245
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 1: Either way, it's one of the great names for a

1246
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: rivalry game. This one's at BYU, and this one also

1247
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 1: actually has some playoff implications, big twelve implications. Don't sleep

1248
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: on BYU. They're still undefeated, the undefeated, all right, enjoy

1249
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: your weekend in college football. Hopefully, depending on how Friday

1250
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 1: Night goes, I get to do the same. And with that,

1251
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 1: I'll see you next week.