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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Home, y'all.

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Speaker 1: This is episode ninety six of Native Land Pod. We

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Speaker 1: are your host, Tiffany Crost, Andrew Gillum and Angela Rye

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Speaker 1: Rocking the cat today, rocking the cat, but spitting.

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Speaker 4: No cat exactly down.

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Speaker 3: Exactly all right, let's get ready to pay for that.

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Speaker 5: Andrews stopped it, but I know, but you ain't got

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Speaker 5: to do an extra plug. Let's get so well.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of plug, let's plug what we're talking about today, Angela?

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Speaker 3: What you got.

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Speaker 5: As of Wednesday morning?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 5: An excerpt from Kamala Harris's book One hundred and seven

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Speaker 5: Days was released on The Atlantic and I am very

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Speaker 5: eager to talk about that and whether or not y'all

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Speaker 5: read it.

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Speaker 4: That's real, co host. I think we got bombs dropping

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Speaker 4: over sovereign states of of of Qatar. We got Trump

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Speaker 4: dropping bomb on speed boats in the Caribbean. We have

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Speaker 4: Russia invading Poland's airspace. Everybody is violating right now on

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Speaker 4: the international scale, and love to talk about the implications

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Speaker 4: of that on us.

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Speaker 1: I have questions for you on that, Andrews. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I understand all of it, and our audience

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Speaker 1: probably doesn't either. So looking forward to that, I want

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Speaker 1: to get into this idea of Trump having a third term.

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Speaker 1: He has been toying with this idea, but this week,

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Speaker 1: in particular, Supreme Court Justices Amy Tony Barrett and Sonya

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Speaker 1: Solo Mayor were asked about it, and I just don't

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Speaker 1: think that society or the media is taking it seriously enough.

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Speaker 3: So it looks like we have a lot to get into.

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Speaker 5: Let's rock, Yeah, okay, y'all. So I want to start

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Speaker 5: with this quote from the excerpt that was released in

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Speaker 5: The Atlantic on Wednesday morning. On Wednesday morning, they're thinking

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Speaker 5: was zero sum. If she's shining, he's dimmed. None of

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Speaker 5: them grasped that if I did well, he did well,

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Speaker 5: that given the concerns about his age, my visible success

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Speaker 5: as his vice president was vital. It would serve as

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Speaker 5: a testament to his judgment in choosing me and reassurance

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Speaker 5: that if something happened, the country was in good hands.

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Speaker 5: My success was important for him. His team didn't get it,

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Speaker 5: and I wanted to start there because I think that

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Speaker 5: many of us who have or interfaced with the Biden

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Speaker 5: administration at all. This was not a quiet rumbling. This

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Speaker 5: was something that was regularly discussed about how they were

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Speaker 5: handling Kamala Harris, what her portfolio was, Why was that

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Speaker 5: her portfolio? When was she going to get out front

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Speaker 5: and lead on some things? And I think really it

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Speaker 5: took until well into their third year, around the Dobbs

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Speaker 5: decision where we really saw her go out without him,

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Speaker 5: without kind of being restrained or handled by White House staff.

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Speaker 5: So this piece, to me was particularly resident because again

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Speaker 5: it wasn't a secret for those of us who knew her,

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Speaker 5: or know this administration or knew that administration, it was

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Speaker 5: the least are the worst kept secret. So I do

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Speaker 5: think that you know one I want to hear from

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Speaker 5: y'all on what you're expecting in this book. Again, it's

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Speaker 5: released on September twenty third, but I think that this

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Speaker 5: particular passage is fascinating because I thought we've been new this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just say for our viewers. This excerpt

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Speaker 1: a really interesting who of course is the editor of

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Speaker 1: the Atlantic, had a really interesting intro even I thought

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Speaker 1: with how he introduced it, because he kind of sets

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Speaker 1: the tone of you know, there are so political books,

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Speaker 1: particularly post more than political books can be incredibly boring,

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Speaker 1: and he sets the tone that this is not what

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Speaker 1: of people, particularly within the Beltway, will be talking about this,

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Speaker 1: and so I just want to take a moment and

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Speaker 1: tell our listeners. If you guys are talking about it,

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Speaker 1: please be sure to tell your friends that NLP tackle

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Speaker 1: this topic, this topic and share it among your group chats,

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Speaker 1: because we want to know if our thoughts reflect yours

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Speaker 1: and want to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: Andrew, what's your take on this book?

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Speaker 4: You know, just pulling back, I think it's impressive to

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Speaker 4: see her really sound like herself. And I guess what

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Speaker 4: I mean by that. Again, Angela alluded to this. For

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Speaker 4: those of us who have been in you know, contact,

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Speaker 4: we know the authentic side, the real side, And I

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Speaker 4: think she invites the readers, at least so far in

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Speaker 4: the book released later, you know, this month. Then I

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Speaker 4: think we're in for a less filtered, almost to unfiltered

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Speaker 4: truth teller and Kamala Harris, who's really prepared to square

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Speaker 4: up with the ways in which she's been wronged, the

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Speaker 4: ways in which the credit that she's rightfully earned has

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Speaker 4: given her flowers. And I also think will get a

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Speaker 4: less filtered version of her policy self, so her political self,

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Speaker 4: I'm Kamala. I'm Kamala, not the Kamala Harris, but I'm

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Speaker 4: kamala introduction for regular ordinary folks who just want to

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Speaker 4: know that there are points of relationship, points of relate

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Speaker 4: she does that, Oh I do that too. I think

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Speaker 4: that's eluded her for a lot of her political career,

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Speaker 4: that relatableness between everyday common folks. And then the only

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Speaker 4: other thing I'd say, just sort a big picture would

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Speaker 4: be I've already started hearing some of the conversation amongst

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Speaker 4: the punditry class sort of reading this excerpt in contrast

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Speaker 4: to how Biden would feel, what Biden would think, And

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Speaker 4: I just want to say this is her writing, this

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Speaker 4: is reflecting her herolding journey, unprecedented in American history lift

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Speaker 4: from vice president to presidential contender because the city president

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Speaker 4: of the United States steps back from the nomination. So

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Speaker 4: it's okay if she centered in this, It's okay for

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Speaker 4: That's not disloyal. I'm not being disrespectful to him. I'm

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Speaker 4: simply reminding us that we can read her words and

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Speaker 3: You kind of get.

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Speaker 1: Into some of my thoughts around this, Andrew, because I

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Speaker 1: do think this is a bigger deal to the chattering class,

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Speaker 1: to the punditry class than it is to America.

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Speaker 3: Writ large.

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Speaker 1: I will say when I was reading the excerpt in

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Speaker 3: Like she goes.

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Speaker 1: She starts out with speaking to Zeta Phi Beta sorority.

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Speaker 1: She gives a shout out to the Divine nine right

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Speaker 1: I think there are so many black people who will

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Speaker 1: that will resonate. I also saw a counterpart in that,

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Speaker 1: what the audience at large would find interesting. I also

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Speaker 1: still feel I do not this writing does not connect

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Speaker 1: I will not be muzzled in this moment, and I

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Speaker 1: want to tell you all this is what happened to me.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if the appetite among the American readership, the

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Speaker 1: ever dwindling American readership, because we all know how hard

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Speaker 1: it is in publishing right now, if the appetite is less,

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Speaker 1: like we want to know what happened versus we want

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Speaker 1: to know how do we defeat Donald Trump and his minions?

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Speaker 1: Right now, I don't know how much people will latch

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Speaker 1: I am going to consume this book. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I read it and I thought, oh, you are going there,

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Speaker 1: and this is an excellent excerpt to read to attract

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Speaker 1: a lot of black women, black people with disposable income

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Speaker 1: The last time somebody has said, oh my god, did

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Speaker 3: Did you guys watch the panopolists today?

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Speaker 1: Like they are the anachronisms. Nobody gives this shit what

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Speaker 5: I just I just no, no, no, I think that

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Speaker 5: curious about it, and I will say in full disclosure

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Speaker 5: a place where I represent the best of journalistic integrity.

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Speaker 5: I'm very biased. I love her deeply, and so I've

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Speaker 5: folks are like, why now, why didn't you say that?

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Speaker 5: Then you know where have you been? And I think

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Speaker 5: I'm hoping that this book does is give us a

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Speaker 5: happens if all of the people come together and think

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Speaker 5: what happens if we come together to see real systemic change,

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Speaker 4: gender related insulting assault. And I think we're gonna hear

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Speaker 4: a lot of that, and and frankly it's because of

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Speaker 4: our conditioning. And I actually think some of the worst

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Speaker 4: critique of her will probably come from other women, to

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Speaker 4: be honest about it.

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Speaker 6: Who will who will?

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Speaker 4: Who will want to set themselves apart as basically saying

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Speaker 4: if this had been my experience, I would have kept

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Speaker 4: it under the rug into myself. Some in our community

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Speaker 4: will say, is she being disloyal? And again, I thought

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Speaker 4: she was an incredibly loyal vice president, and I think

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Speaker 4: even in her writing here she's incredibly loyal. When she

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Speaker 4: does takes wipes at the adminised that she was a

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Speaker 4: part of, she takes swipes at the handlers surrounding the

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Speaker 4: president who caged on a number of issues and tried

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Speaker 4: to block his passes to her in many instances. And

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Speaker 4: so I just, I just, I just think people should one,

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Speaker 4: if you are a supporter of these folks, get out

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Speaker 4: and buy the book. Don't make it a question. Just

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Speaker 4: just do it, like Nike says. And then the other

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Speaker 4: thing is is look at it with a how do

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Speaker 4: you say, a graceful eye, Read it with a graceful eye.

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Speaker 4: All those got judgments and and backseat you know, driving

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Speaker 4: and and and quarterbacking. But you don't know. None of

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Speaker 4: us know because we've never been there, all right, And

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Speaker 4: if you have, maybe you can say a little something.

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Speaker 4: But if you haven't, take it for what it is

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Speaker 4: somebody else's attributed story of what happened, how they experienced it,

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Speaker 4: and then what they want us to know coming out

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Speaker 4: of it.

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Speaker 5: I got competitors in the political podcast space to who

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Speaker 5: I'm eager to.

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Speaker 3: See, Oh, I know you're talking about, don't get you know?

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Speaker 3: Who are eager to.

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Speaker 5: See how they respond to this because they, especially around

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Speaker 5: the primary time, where there was, you know, a conversation

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Speaker 5: about a contested convention and whether or not Kama Hair

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Speaker 5: should be the nominee.

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Speaker 3: They had some things to say about Joe Biden.

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Speaker 5: So now that it's the black woman that came forward,

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Speaker 5: I'm eager to see how they respond.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, I'm just gonna say, pod Save America. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to see because I do feel like they speak

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Speaker 1: to a different demographic than we do.

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Speaker 3: But you know, okay, and maybe others.

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Speaker 1: But I know that particular podcast I feel sometimes does

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Speaker 1: not necessarily include our audience and our listeners. I think

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Speaker 1: they have a more bleached audience, I'll say.

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Speaker 4: But I imagine the testament will be interesting. I think

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Speaker 4: it will be reflective of what they are capable of doing.

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Speaker 4: I agree, based off their walk in life, exactly as

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Speaker 4: we are based off our walk.

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Speaker 3: Exactly in life.

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Speaker 1: But I imagine that we'll be talking about this for this

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Speaker 1: probably won't be the last time we'll talk about this

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Speaker 1: because her actual book, uh, you know, we'll have to

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Speaker 1: read the whole book. Right now, we're just reading the

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Speaker 1: excerpt that you can find in The Atlantic, So I

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Speaker 1: hope other people it is behind the pay will also

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Speaker 1: try to get a subscription if you can, or get

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Speaker 1: somebody to cut and pace and send it to you.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have a subscription, but looking forward.

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Speaker 4: To say coins and buy it. On the twenty third, they.

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Speaker 5: Got some DVDs they slinging in the barbershop. Okay, I

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Speaker 5: just mean for the excerpt.

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Speaker 1: But please do buy the book when it comes out,

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Speaker 1: but definitely would love to hear your thoughts in the

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Speaker 1: comments on the excerpts, because y'all know I stay in

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Speaker 1: the comments, but yeah, we should.

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Speaker 3: I want to.

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Speaker 1: I want to get into something else. Donald Trump really

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Speaker 1: thinks that he's going to run for a third term. No,

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Speaker 1: it's not constitutional, and yes, this man is crazy enough

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Speaker 1: to think it can happen in these crazy times. Who

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Speaker 1: knows we're going to get into that. On the other

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Speaker 1: side of this break, people are asking me to run

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Speaker 1: and there's a whole story about running for a third term.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I never looked into it, and they do say there's

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Speaker 1: a way you can do it, but I don't know

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 6: But I want to do a fantastic job.

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Speaker 7: In an exclusive phone interview, NBC's Christen Welker asked the

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Speaker 7: President about a possible scenario where Vice President Vance is

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Speaker 7: elected with President Trump as his running mate, and then

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Speaker 7: Vance steps aside, the President saying that's one method, but

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Speaker 7: there are others too, saying he would not talk about them.

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Speaker 1: So that was Donald Trump toying with the idea of

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Speaker 1: a third term. And I wanted to talk about this

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Speaker 1: topic because I don't think people are taking this seriously

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Speaker 1: enough while we're focused on Epstein and kind of just

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Speaker 1: like yellow salacious topics. This is a really frightening story

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Speaker 1: to me. But the breaking news banner that you see

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Speaker 1: above the vote and newspaper sections is all about something

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Speaker 1: else and not taking this seriously. It came up again

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Speaker 1: this week because Supreme Court justices rarely give interviews, They

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Speaker 1: rarely are out front talking, but two Supreme Court justices

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Speaker 1: spoke about this. First, I want you all to take

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Speaker 1: a listen to Justice Amy Cony Berry in an interview

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Speaker 1: with Fox News.

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Speaker 3: Is Brett bear.

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Speaker 6: Right and the twenty second Amendment says you can only

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Speaker 6: run for office for two terms?

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Speaker 8: True?

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Speaker 6: You think that that's cut and dry.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's you know, that's what the amendment says, right,

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Speaker 8: you know after FDR had four terms that that's what

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Speaker 8: that amendment says.

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Speaker 1: Now, take a listen to Justice Sonya Solda Mayor on

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Speaker 1: the View this week, being posed that same question by

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Speaker 1: former Trump administration official Alissa Griffin.

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Speaker 6: Do you believe the twenty second Amendment is settled law?

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Speaker 6: The Constitution is settled law.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, No, one has tried to challenge that. Until somebody tries,

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Speaker 8: you don't know. So it's not settled because we don't

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Speaker 8: have a court case about that issue.

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Speaker 6: But it is in the constitution.

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Speaker 8: And one should understand that there's nothing that is the greater.

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Speaker 6: Law in the United States than the Constitution.

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Speaker 4: Of the United States.

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Speaker 1: I'm frightened about this. I do not think people are

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Speaker 1: taking this seriously enough. And this is why I keep saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, if we have midterm elections, and when we

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Speaker 1: talked earlier about in the last segment about secession, and

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Speaker 1: if we have another democratic administration in the White House,

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Speaker 1: I just I am baffled at this white media landscape.

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Speaker 1: That's like, oh that that crazy Trump. Yeah, Trump being Trump.

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Speaker 3: What are you all like? Is this something that keeps

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Speaker 3: you all up at night?

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Speaker 5: I wonder, So I won't say this is what keeps

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Speaker 5: me up at night. I'm really concerned about like DC

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Speaker 5: occupation and concerned about the people who are being disappeared. Literally,

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Speaker 5: as I'm talking to y'all, there are three troops outside

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Speaker 5: the window. And I got a text from a good

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Speaker 5: friend of mine that Memphis is making an announcement tomorrow

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, an announcement this week that the National Guard

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Speaker 5: is going there too. So there are some things that

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Speaker 5: it sounds nuts to say, Tiff, I actually feel bad

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Speaker 5: about this coming out of my mouth. But there are

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Speaker 5: some things that feel more pressing. Right now. I'm given

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Speaker 5: that we're being forced to drink out of a fire

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Speaker 5: hose in real time and consistently. There's some drama, there's

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Speaker 5: some terrorism, there's something that we're having to answer to

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Speaker 5: every single day. I do think, to be fair, this

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Speaker 5: doesn't seem like something that white media is avoiding. The

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Speaker 5: two clips that we just played is white media talking

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Speaker 5: about this. What is scary to me, though, is it

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Speaker 5: just seems like a passing conversation about like.

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 5: And even more so I would expect I don't know,

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Speaker 5: it's not a Supreme Court opinion, but I don't want

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Speaker 5: Sonya sot A majority to sound as passive about it

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Speaker 5: as Amy Cony Barrett. I would have loved to hear

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Speaker 5: her say, you know, well, you know, before this administration,

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Speaker 5: the constitution was settled law, and before this administration or

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Speaker 5: before this attempt at this administration, we would have never

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Speaker 5: considered criminal immunity in the Supreme Court for a sitting president.

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Speaker 5: Before this administration, we went don just like she did

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Speaker 5: with the ice raids opinion. So I'm actually more I

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Speaker 5: know you were mad at the media law, but I'm

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Speaker 5: actually more frustrated with the ways in which these justices

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Speaker 5: who have these lifetime appointments, at least for now, it's

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Speaker 5: supposed to be settled law, right, you know, I want

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Speaker 5: you to give that the same energy that you would

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Speaker 5: protect that job friend, you know, And I just I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't even hear that. I was more alarmed by

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Speaker 5: her response. Listen, like, wait, what you know.

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Speaker 3: Something? And it might have been, but.

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Speaker 4: Technically is it's been litigated before the court and it's

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Speaker 4: been settled. There's an opinion that says this is what

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Speaker 4: the Constitution says, and the Court has now affirmed it

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Speaker 4: through case such and such and such, because no one

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Speaker 4: has ever dared tried the most settled of all settled

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Speaker 4: law in the land, which is, you know more, I

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Speaker 4: shouldn't say the most settled, the most bedrock of all

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Speaker 4: the law in the land, the constitution of which other

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Speaker 4: laws emanate. It's where other laws, uh get their power,

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Speaker 4: is through its constitutionality. So she's right on that point,

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Speaker 4: But she's also right in saying nobody has dared tried

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Speaker 4: this before. And I also think she's probably being careful,

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Speaker 4: especially given the conservative media landscape out here, the conservative

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Speaker 4: landscape period in this country, not to exempt herself out

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Speaker 4: of this case. Should Trump have his way and set

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Speaker 4: up an instance where this question makes this way before

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Speaker 4: the court, at which point you can't have a justice

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Speaker 4: out there opining their opinion or they might be asked

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Speaker 4: to not make, you know, not be able to sit

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Speaker 4: for a case because they've already opined their opinion opinions

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Speaker 4: about has.

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Speaker 5: A different set of obligations in there.

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Speaker 4: It may and I'm just I'm simply saying, given the

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Speaker 4: conservative landscape that we are living in, they would be

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Speaker 4: so happy to take a clip from Justice on your

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Speaker 4: soda mayor expousing or extended comments about the fact that

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Speaker 4: absolutely the Constitution says what it says and there's no reproach. Well,

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Speaker 4: the truth is is that the Constitution has had reproach.

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Speaker 4: I mean, people bring suits on the basis that a

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Speaker 4: thing is unconstitutional and pushing the limits of the boundaries

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Speaker 4: of what the Constitution actually says. But if you are

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Speaker 4: a conservative jurists, which Amy Colly Barrett, appointed by Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: says that she is it means you take the text

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Speaker 4: literally and I don't know how many literal derivations derivatives

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Speaker 4: you can get from a person can only run twice

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Speaker 4: for the presidency, right, and they go for letther say

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Speaker 4: they don't have to be consecutive, but rather that you

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Speaker 4: just simply cannot run twice. But to mention my own

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Speaker 4: become amy comby Barratt of four terms served by Roosevelt.

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Speaker 4: She knows that that was prior to the prior to

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Speaker 4: that constitutional amendment. In fact, that constitutional amendment emanated from

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Speaker 4: the fact that we did not want a president being

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Speaker 4: able to serve four terms. Prior to that, the Constitution

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Speaker 4: was silent on it, and we relied on the example

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Speaker 4: of George Washington and his willingness to step away from

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Speaker 4: that most powerful office at that time after two terms.

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Speaker 4: That was all we had. Well, now we got law

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Speaker 4: that says this is what it is.

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Speaker 1: But I think also the idea that we have to

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Speaker 1: confront that the Constitution is just a piece of paper.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Donald Trump has like declare that, like, these

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Speaker 1: are just rules and laws that y'all made up, don't

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Speaker 1: I don't like guide right exactly, Like this is a framework.

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Speaker 1: But if I don't like something, then I don't want

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Speaker 1: to do it. And I think what's at the root

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Speaker 1: cause of our concern, our collective concern, because Angela, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about, well, that's not what's keeping me up at night,

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Speaker 1: because there's this urgent thing you mentioned drinking from the

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Speaker 1: fire holes.

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Speaker 3: But it's really all the same thing.

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Speaker 1: It is is Donald Trump just skirting our democratic norms

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Speaker 1: and pushing the limits of power and testing these systems

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Speaker 1: until they're broken, and flooding us with chaos until chaos

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Speaker 1: seems normal. You also mentioned I have to say, I've

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Speaker 1: not seen the reporting on Memphis, and I know the

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Speaker 1: Republican governor there, Bill Lee, has said in recent weeks

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Speaker 1: that he is not interested in deploying the National Guard,

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Speaker 1: so that hasn't been reported yet. But that does not

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Speaker 1: mean that it's not on the precipice of happening right now.

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Speaker 5: And it leads us to a question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, potentially, see it leads us to a viewer who

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Speaker 1: had that same compar.

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Speaker 5: I'm missuring you that it's it's from an elected official.

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Speaker 9: Have you guys noticed how Detroit, Michigan has been omitted

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Speaker 9: from the list of places at the National Guard.

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Speaker 3: It's being sent to you by the President.

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Speaker 9: He's named Baltimore DC LA Elisha Kato as many negative

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Speaker 9: connotations as Detroit has had over the years, as much

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Speaker 9: crime written as he's been saying to our CNE. But

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Speaker 9: for us to be omitted from the list noticeably multiple

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Speaker 9: times every time, then now so, and I'm waiting for

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Speaker 9: our name to be at it.

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Speaker 6: It's not.

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Speaker 9: And there's no scarier time for a person in an

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Speaker 9: abusive relationship than when their abuser goes silent or pauses

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Speaker 9: the cycle. Why could you know you're not out of

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Speaker 9: the abusive relationship? So either you are a in the

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Speaker 9: discard phase where you don't even care whether I've live

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Speaker 9: or die, or more than likely the latter, which is

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Speaker 9: b you plan something extra sinister for that person, your victim,

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Speaker 9: Because I'm like, what you gotta plan for us for

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty six. So if y'all have heard anything any

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Speaker 9: rum planers about what's playing for Michigan in twenty twenty six,

696
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Speaker 9: because we got a manor or election happening. When we

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Speaker 9: got a thirty seven year old black woman who is

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Speaker 9: leading leading in the post. We also got Garland kill

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Speaker 9: Chris the lieutenant governor who's black man running for governor

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Speaker 9: of state of Michigan against independent Mike Duggan.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep myself.

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Speaker 9: On that to the side. But have y'all heard anything

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Speaker 9: about what he has planned for Michigan, because honey, I

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Speaker 9: need to know.

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Speaker 5: I love that quiet rightly whisper like somebody right there.

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Speaker 1: But this is the point that how quickly you can

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Speaker 1: move And if I wasn't disputing what you were saying,

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Speaker 1: I was responsibly saying that there had been no reporting

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Speaker 1: about it. But certainly things can happen so quickly that

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Speaker 1: there sometimes there isn't a warning.

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Speaker 3: And to her point about Detroit, it's.

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we could wake up to we don't know,

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Speaker 1: we could wake up tomorrow and there it won't just

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Speaker 1: be Memphis, or it could be Memphis Detroit, like who knows.

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Speaker 1: So it's very frightening, and I think that is rooted

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Speaker 1: in this discussion, how quickly these things can happen, and like,

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Speaker 1: how do you address these challenges? When I first, because

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Speaker 1: we've read the transcript of her question, I'm like, and

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Speaker 1: she wanted them to come to destroy but hearing her

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Speaker 1: the concern and her voice, and thank you, by the

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Speaker 1: way for taking the time to record that video and

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Speaker 1: share it with us. I don't even know how we

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Speaker 1: combat that.

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Speaker 4: I really don't know, actually helpful, I mean, actually really

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Speaker 4: really app analogy. I will tell you anytime Trump gets

726
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Speaker 4: gets in hot water. I started getting more and more concerned. Right, So,

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Speaker 4: the Epstein industris earlier in the week, and then the

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Speaker 4: next thing, we know, you know, in Chicago, they didn't

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Speaker 4: you know, they've unleashed already. Homeland security folks were operating

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Speaker 4: in the city the next morning after the breaking of

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Speaker 4: the whole Epstein thing takes place, and then immediately and

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Speaker 4: I ken't remember that what the timing was. You all

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Speaker 4: make correct me? Uh, this is one of the topics

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Speaker 4: I wanted to bring up a little bit later, was

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Speaker 4: the whole dropping bombs on a speed boat in international waters.

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Speaker 4: So I just think we're all anything is on the block, period.

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Speaker 4: But absolutely, when Trump is overwhelmed by criticism, just hold on, just.

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Speaker 7: Holding on this.

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Speaker 1: But I do think this does happen in Tennessee. This

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Speaker 1: would be the first time that he's doing this. Correct me,

741
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Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, I could be exactly accurate and a

742
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Speaker 1: Republican led states. But to me, once that happens. It

743
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Speaker 1: opens the door for a lot of other things.

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Speaker 5: But this is the thing that I jump It is

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Speaker 5: important for us to contextualize. He is sending the National

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Speaker 5: Guard into Memphis, of course, and there that is a

747
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Speaker 5: black mayor. The challenge we have is the very thing

748
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Speaker 5: that we flagged on this show about the way that

749
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Speaker 5: Marrio Bowser was almost welcoming to Donald Trump. Because Memphis

750
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Speaker 5: is mayor is cut from a similar cloth as Mariel Bowser.

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Speaker 5: So he is cooperating in advance with this based on

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Speaker 5: what I'm being told from an elected official source. So

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Speaker 5: it is a little different because we know that the

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Speaker 5: state also has some responsibility for the National Guard. We

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Speaker 5: know that they're fine with it, and then you have

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Speaker 5: someone who's a willing participant at the mayoral level in Memphis.

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Speaker 5: The other thing that I was going to flag for

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Speaker 5: the question Lakisha, again thank you for sending it in,

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Speaker 5: is there is an election in Detroit, but it ain't

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Speaker 5: happen yet. So Mary Sheffield ain't the Mary yet. Who

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Speaker 5: is the mayor? Is Mike Duggan, who is running against

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Speaker 5: Garland for the gubernature in the gubernatorial race. Why does

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Speaker 5: that matter? This man is a partner with several MAGA

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Speaker 5: folks on several investments, including completely whitewashing Detroit, and so

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Speaker 5: I still think it is different. There is a wink

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Speaker 5: and nod relationship going on here, and you will see

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Speaker 5: that some of the pressure is ramped down with folks

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Speaker 5: who Donald Trump has a good relationship with. He is

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Speaker 5: an ego maniacal human being. That is how this works.

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Speaker 5: So I think that is important we can there is

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Speaker 5: a there is a system. But I think that no

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Speaker 5: matter what, he wants to make a black mayor look bad,

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Speaker 5: and I think no matter what, where he has a

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Speaker 5: good relationship where someone's will willfully stroking his ego, he

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Speaker 5: needs showing up the same way.

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Speaker 4: But it will it will be an interesting challenge to

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Speaker 4: see how a Republican governor, because mayors don't have say

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Speaker 4: over the National Guard or its deployment. The confrontation is

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Speaker 4: with the governors. Because you deploy national Guard in my state,

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Speaker 4: it is an affront to me. You say, you're coming

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Speaker 4: into my state and we can't handle the issues of

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Speaker 4: crime or that that city within my state can't and

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Speaker 4: so you're going to basically borrow the power of the governor.

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Speaker 4: Because the governor is the one who generally generally is

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Speaker 4: responsible for calling up the National Guard. The last time

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Speaker 4: prior to Trump, deployed National Guard soldiers was to get

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Speaker 4: you know, was to integrate Southern UH public schools. So

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Speaker 4: so it's not a practice that that presidents generally utilized,

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Speaker 4: which I know we all know, but I do. I

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Speaker 4: am interested. I actually am very I wish it wouldn't happen,

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Speaker 4: but if it is going to happen, I'd be curious

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Speaker 4: to know how a governor, a Republican governor is going

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Speaker 4: to stand when his state is in the crosshairs. Is

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Speaker 4: he going to stand with the people of his state

795
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Speaker 4: and say, you're not going to degrade us this way?

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Speaker 4: Or does he say, hey, we've got the welcome that

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Speaker 4: rolled out, come on in.

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Speaker 3: You.

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Speaker 1: But well, the framing of the discussion when when this

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Speaker 1: initially started happening is well, why not do this in

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Speaker 1: Republican led states? And I had such an issue with

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Speaker 1: that because it's like, no, we're not trying to normalize this.

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Speaker 1: And again I understand, I just want to be clear.

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Speaker 1: This is something somebody said this to Angela. An elected

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Speaker 1: official said this to Angela, that this is happening. We're

806
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Speaker 1: not saying it's happening. Angela's saying, this is what I'm

807
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: being told that it's happening. But again, in Trump's America,

808
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Speaker 1: we have no I like, literally, you wake up and

809
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Speaker 1: it's like, at any moment, it could be a breaking

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Speaker 1: news banner that he's deployed.

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Speaker 3: But this will.

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Speaker 1: I do think this will be a game changer if

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Speaker 1: he starts deploying these folks in Republican led states, because

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Speaker 1: then that puts a whole lot of other cities like Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and when you usually you should count. He said,

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Speaker 1: he already said he was sending it into New Orleans.

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm like, this is as yet what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: I'm just telling you he does not care. He does

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Speaker 5: not have There's no safety net or or or or

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Speaker 5: a hedge of protection for a black mayor in whether

821
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Speaker 5: the state is red, blue, purple green, whatever. If they

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Speaker 5: are a black mayor who is not willing to bend

823
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Speaker 5: the knee, they are in harms.

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Speaker 6: Way.

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Speaker 3: I disagree you black people, period.

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Speaker 4: And guess what this may be. How people started learning

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Speaker 4: about where these things are popping up is on the hotline,

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Speaker 4: and it's back to your point earlier point, Angel Love,

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Speaker 4: like we have to get into we need to know

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Speaker 4: our neighbor, We need to know our people, because it

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Speaker 4: may get to the point where it's like, hey, y'all,

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Speaker 4: is a red alert.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of red alert, Andrew, I know that you wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about what's happening in Doha, which is also

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Speaker 1: crazy and major.

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Speaker 4: Well, of course, the third term is deadly dangerous for

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Speaker 4: us in the US. But there's some of the things

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Speaker 4: deadly dangerous, and that's this widening distabling on the global stage.

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Speaker 4: You we'll talk about that on the other side of

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Speaker 4: this break. I know a lot of folks are We

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Speaker 4: get it from our listeners, and we get it from

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Speaker 4: manage a little bit too. You know, the international issues

843
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Speaker 4: can be a bit distraction. But I want before we

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Speaker 4: go to Doha, I just want to say no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you say, focus on international because we got

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Speaker 4: so much going on domestically, and I think that's probably

847
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Speaker 4: a view shared by our listeners as well. We we

848
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Speaker 4: got to protect ourselves, and this is in the vein

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Speaker 4: of protecting ourselves, because we got to see ourselves at

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Speaker 4: the intersection of these of many of these issues where

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Speaker 4: we do come into focus. Yes, we we heard about

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Speaker 4: the strikes and and Doha. I know I've I've been, Angela.

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Speaker 4: I know you've traveled to Doha, uh Tiff, You've been everywhere.

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Speaker 1: I've never been to Doha. I've never been to Guitar.

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Speaker 4: Well it is, I have to tell you. Aside from

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Speaker 4: the stifling, uh dry heat, it was a beautiful, you know,

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Speaker 4: a beautiful visit. I of course had my exceptions with

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Speaker 4: the politics of the conservative bend and and and the

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Speaker 4: politics and the place. But nonetheless, it is a sovereign country,

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Speaker 4: which in sovereign means to them, you know, they have

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Speaker 4: the right of borders. They have international rights of being

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Speaker 4: seen as a separate, as a autonomous state, separate and

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Speaker 4: apart from any other, which means they have the rights

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Speaker 4: of self determination. You can't just fly over their airspace.

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Speaker 4: You just can't drop bombs on them without declarations of

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Speaker 4: warsaw and so forth. But before really digging in it,

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Speaker 4: I just want to say, Trump and none of us

868
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 4: should miss this really really stretched the presidency and our

869
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Speaker 4: understanding of international law. Earlier this week, this past weekend,

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Speaker 4: when he decided that he was going to send the

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Speaker 4: United States military to intercept a speed boat, and I

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Speaker 4: think the speedboat had like eleven people on it, but

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Speaker 4: nonetheless it was a personal vessel, right, not a military

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Speaker 4: vessel a threat of any sort that we know of.

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Speaker 4: And he basically extended what would have normally been a

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Speaker 4: protocol that would have been undertaken should there have been

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Speaker 4: a weaponized military imminent threat on the United States, which

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Speaker 4: then we would be compelled to respond. But he decided

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Speaker 4: that he believed that drugs were being trafficked over international

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Speaker 4: waters with their destination being the United States of America,

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Speaker 4: even though the boat was in the Caribbean, and decided

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Speaker 4: to use the United States.

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Speaker 10: Navy to take out this boat with citizens pedestrian citizens,

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Speaker 10: not US citizens, but ped Venezuelan citizens on the boat.

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Speaker 4: Now, typically the way this would have been handled is

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Speaker 4: the coast Guard would have likely intercepted any vessel that

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Speaker 4: they thought were trafficking drugs. They would haveborted it. They

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Speaker 4: would have searched it and determined whether or not, and

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Speaker 4: if it was determined that there were drugs on it,

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Speaker 4: they would have been arrested and bought before courts and

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Speaker 4: given due process of the law. Facts would have had

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Speaker 4: to be established in this case, y'all, this man decided, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there are drugs on the boat. These are bad people.

894
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Speaker 4: I'm a drop some bombs. We're going to take them out.

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Speaker 4: They're now sitting in the bottom of the Caribbean Ocean

896
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Speaker 4: and it's handled. We don't know where that boat was going,

897
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Speaker 4: we don't know whether it had drugs on it, we

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Speaker 4: don't know who the people were that were on it,

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Speaker 4: and no proof has been extended. So what happens to

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Speaker 4: American citizens who maybe vacationing in the Caribbean, who might

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Speaker 4: be on a boat and might be people who were

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Speaker 4: critical of the president, and the president decides that he

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Speaker 4: wants to send the US military based off of his

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Speaker 4: precept of what he believes is happening, and take you out.

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Speaker 4: I just want us to think about what an explosion,

906
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Speaker 4: an extension, an incredible extension of law that is, and

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Speaker 4: the fact that this was so close. I guess I

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Speaker 4: take it more personally because I'm a Floridian and I

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Speaker 4: got family Andbeminy and Bahamas. You know, we travel on

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Speaker 4: the like is going to Miami right from where I live.

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Speaker 4: That's how commonplace it is. And in those international waters

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Speaker 4: that a president of the United States can decide to

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Speaker 4: take us out off of an assumption not proven and

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Speaker 4: no due process accorded, law involved whatsoever. That's what took

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Speaker 4: place here. And so the license that he creates here,

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Speaker 4: we're not seeing that same license being extended across the world. Now. Yah,

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Speaker 4: who doesn't inform the United States, who is their protector,

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Speaker 4: who basically pays for the military and is the security

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Speaker 4: guarantee for Israel, doesn't inform the United States and decides

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Speaker 4: to enter with with drones or actually these are their

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Speaker 4: their aircraft go into a sovereign nation and drop bombs

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Speaker 4: in a residential area. And just so you know about

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Speaker 4: this residential area, this is a part of Doha where

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Speaker 4: many expats and foreign diplomats live and they drop We

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Speaker 4: already know they don't care about people's lives because they

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Speaker 4: drop bombs on hospitals and kill women, children, kids, and journalists.

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Speaker 4: But in this case, you now ventored a sovereign territory

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Speaker 4: where the United States has a huge military outpost, huge

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Speaker 4: military base, and don't consult anybody, and the wreckage there

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Speaker 4: is still being accounted. And the last example I'll give

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Speaker 4: is we learned this week in the middle of the

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Speaker 4: week that Russia decided to send over four to eighteen drones,

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Speaker 4: almost two dozen drones over Poland with their destination not

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Speaker 4: being completely clear. Poland is a NATO ally of which

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Speaker 4: the United States is compelled to defend if they are attacked.

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Speaker 4: We don't invade people's airspace with drones or weaponry with

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Speaker 4: no sense of where the destination is. If we, the

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Speaker 4: United States were to send weapons over Poland, we would

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Speaker 4: have to tell them what we're doing and ask their

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Speaker 4: permission for their airspace. And so all I'm saying is

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Speaker 4: that I can't treat these isolated because we, the leader

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Speaker 4: of the free world, is setting the example that international

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Speaker 4: law doesn't matter. In fact, laws on our own land

944
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Speaker 4: don't matter. And therefore the innertial order, y'all is collapsing

945
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Speaker 4: around us. And if you don't think that impacts us,

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Speaker 4: think again, Well.

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Speaker 1: There are a group of people who think it impacts us.

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is week attempted to have dinner out in

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Speaker 1: d C. And the citizens I'm free people are going

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Speaker 1: to continue to make him feel uncomfortable. Uh, this is

951
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Speaker 1: what happened when he tried to have dinner at Joe's

952
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Speaker 1: Stone Cold Crab Right here in the nation's capital.

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Speaker 5: Take a list, stone cold crabt.

954
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Speaker 4: What I say wrong, stone cold?

955
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Speaker 5: I love it. That should be to do day and

956
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Speaker 5: we should have a black by bad Oh my god.

957
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Speaker 9: How like.

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Speaker 1: So that is what happened when Donald Trump, and you

959
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Speaker 1: can see him selling people get out of here, like

960
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Speaker 1: get them out of here. He was dining with Defense

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Speaker 1: Secretary Pete Excess, Vice President JD. Vance and Secretary of

962
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Speaker 1: State Marco Rubio, and people let.

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Speaker 4: Them know how the.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: But I also saw people applauding and taking pictures of him,

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Speaker 1: and he kept saying, how safety c is now. And

967
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Speaker 1: that is the point, like it is safe for white

968
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Speaker 1: Trump supporters to dine, but not anyone else. And so

969
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Speaker 1: to your point, and to make that bridge between what's

970
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Speaker 1: happening here domestically and what's happening across the world globally

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Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, Russia's efforts in Poland,

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Speaker 1: that is a part of Vladimir Putin's global ambitions and

973
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Speaker 1: NATO stands in the way of that. And so we

974
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Speaker 1: really are seeing Donald Trump reshape the global world order.

975
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Speaker 3: Who are at We're.

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Speaker 1: Treating allies as enemies and enemies as allies and it's

977
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Speaker 1: a crazy time. And to Angela's point about all the

978
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Speaker 1: things that we have to worry about here, I just

979
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Speaker 1: feel like there's this convergence that's going to happen. We

980
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Speaker 1: are in disarray here and our in, our actual enemies

981
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Speaker 1: will look at this like this is the perfect time.

982
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Speaker 3: The United States is in disarray.

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Speaker 1: What a better time than to bring terrorism to their

984
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Speaker 1: front door, to disrupt their sense of normalcy here. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm quite afraid of it, and it's

986
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Speaker 1: giving me a little bit of inks about what's happening

987
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Speaker 1: on the global stage and what's happening here domestically. Angela,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you, because I know that you know

989
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Speaker 1: you uh some you know are curious about what's happening

990
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Speaker 1: across the globe. What do you think, like do you

991
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Speaker 1: draw a connection between what's happening here domestically and like

992
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: how fearful are you in the order of a hierarchy

993
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Speaker 1: about what's happening across the globe? Especially because I didn't

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Speaker 1: know that you had been to Doha before, so having

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Speaker 1: been on the ground there, I feel like you have

996
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Speaker 1: a greater appreciation than I do about what it meant

997
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Speaker 1: for the Israeli government to the bomb residential areas.

998
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Speaker 3: So is any.

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Speaker 5: Thoughts you know, t if I appreciate that, but I

1000
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 5: think I do want to bring it back home. Welcome home, y'all.

1001
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Speaker 5: For this very reason, I worked on the Homeland Security

1002
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Speaker 5: Committee too in the House how a uh security clearance.

1003
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Speaker 5: But also think it is important for people to understand

1004
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Speaker 5: that our instability, everything that is happening here is absolutely

1005
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Speaker 5: a matter of national security. So when you talk about

1006
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Speaker 5: bringing terrorism to our front door, absolutely. The other thing

1007
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Speaker 5: that we've we didn't talk about, but I hope we

1008
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Speaker 5: can soon, is the fact that they are asking ICE

1009
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Speaker 5: to secure this partnership with a digital firm that can

1010
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Speaker 5: hack into our phones, including encrypted apps like Signal that

1011
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 5: we readily rely upon. And I'm bringing that up to say,

1012
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Speaker 5: if you purchase the app, you think that they're not

1013
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 5: going to use that on your phone? Secretary Pete Heckson,

1014
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Speaker 5: you think that they're not like these are These are

1015
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 5: for and actors, and we are affording them access willfully,

1016
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 5: naively and really frankly dangerously. Right. So, I think that

1017
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Speaker 5: there are a number of places where we are at risk.

1018
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Speaker 5: Our infrastructure is at risk, our cyber security is at risk.

1019
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 5: Our homeland is at risk, and it is from natural

1020
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Speaker 5: and man made disasters. And the greatest man made disaster

1021
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Speaker 5: there is is Donald and Goddamn Trump. So I think

1022
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Speaker 5: that we have to be very clear about all of

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Speaker 5: the many ways in which we're vulnerable. I would love

1024
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Speaker 5: for us to get a national security expert on. I

1025
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Speaker 5: do not purport to be one, but I think that

1026
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Speaker 5: we should have one on to talk about all of

1027
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Speaker 5: the many places that we are way vulnerable. And I

1028
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Speaker 5: think this is I think is one of those even

1029
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Speaker 5: you know, Andrew you talking about being in the wild,

1030
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Speaker 5: there are some spaces that we should not be susceptible

1031
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 5: to those kinds of threats. And it seems like all

1032
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Speaker 5: of the rules surprise, surprise are out of the window.

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Speaker 4: But you know what a lilati if they have a

1034
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 4: common thread, and that is Trump is using what had

1035
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Speaker 4: previously been tactics held for foreign wars for foreign activity,

1036
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Speaker 4: and he has basically made them domestic. The military turned

1037
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Speaker 4: on its people, right, using the Navy for law enforcement

1038
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 4: and turning it's on its people. You going in and

1039
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Speaker 4: weaponizing our technology against us so that they can get

1040
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 4: into our phones and evade. Now all national all all

1041
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 4: guarantees we have over civil liberties. Those are those are

1042
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 4: tactics that they have extended in foreign wars that they

1043
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 4: are now turning on their own people domestically. It is

1044
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Speaker 4: against the law. It has been ruled against the law,

1045
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 4: but they are skirting the law in every way possible

1046
00:56:55,800 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 4: and basically taking what are militarized and national security apparatus,

1047
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 4: which are used to repel foreign agents and in rare cases,

1048
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 4: those that are domestic who are against us. They're using

1049
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 4: that apparatus and they're turning the whole damn thing on

1050
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Speaker 4: the four hundred plus million people who call this place home,

1051
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Speaker 4: the Free States of the United States of America. We

1052
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Speaker 4: gotta be careful building his own military force through homeland security.

1053
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Speaker 4: He's taken the military apparatus and he's pointing it at us.

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Speaker 4: That's the danger.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, heavy times, heavy times, you guys. I know we

1056
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: got to a lot today. I know we've probably overloaded

1057
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: the audience. But again, I hope that you all will

1058
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Speaker 1: share these conversations and rate, review, subscribe and all the things.

1059
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Speaker 1: And I read the comments, so I would love to

1060
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Speaker 1: hear your thoughts in the comments below about former Vice

1061
00:57:54,800 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: President Kamala Harris's book about the global threats that we're facing,

1062
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Speaker 1: and most certainly about Donald Trump having a third term.

1063
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Speaker 1: And of course, if you have a question common if

1064
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Speaker 1: we say something you agreed with or disagreed with, do

1065
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: please drop us a video. We say welcome home, because

1066
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Speaker 1: we do really welcome you home. This is your home too,

1067
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Speaker 1: and so we you all are part of the conversation.

1068
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Speaker 1: We're not hosts talking at you. We're co hosts talking

1069
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Speaker 1: with you. And you guys are really co hosts too,

1070
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Speaker 1: because when you want us to talk about a topic,

1071
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Speaker 1: we will talk about that topic. So I look forward

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Speaker 1: to looking at your videos and including them in the show.

1073
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Speaker 1: Let's get to CTA's let's get to these calls to

1074
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Speaker 1: action for real.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, what you guys? Did you make fun

1076
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Speaker 3: of me?

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Speaker 1: By the way, earlier in the show, Andrew you said

1078
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Speaker 1: insults and assaults. That was some nice alliteration that I

1079
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Speaker 1: do plan on stealing. So I just want to give

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Speaker 1: you a heads up now, got it?

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Speaker 4: Hey, I appreciate I appreciate the attribution. At this stage,

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Speaker 4: I know I won't see it again, but I appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: Here for show.

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Speaker 4: You know what, folks, I would say, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: This is for parents with kids who have just returned

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Speaker 4: to school and that sort of thing. And I'm just

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Speaker 4: I'm reminded of the fact that we can't take for

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Speaker 4: granted that everyone is going to see our children's light

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Speaker 4: and their talent, and that no matter what grade they're

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Speaker 4: in and where and how accelerated they may be in

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Speaker 4: their classes, that we still have to be our children's

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Speaker 4: best and first advocate, speaking up, showing up at the

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Speaker 4: the open houses, having those conferences with the teachers. If

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Speaker 4: they don't schedule them, you initiate them to check in

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Speaker 4: on your child, because so often they can be overlooked

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00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 4: or their performance can be seen as anomalies rather than no,

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Speaker 4: this is actually the standard at which they perform, and

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Speaker 4: based off that, we recommend this, this, that, and the third.

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Speaker 4: But we can just let hand our children. There's no

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Speaker 4: other environment by which we would hand our children over

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Speaker 4: to strangers, by and large, to us and take our

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Speaker 4: hands off of them for seven eight hours of the

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Speaker 4: day and not be curious about what happened in that

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Speaker 4: period of time. And so I just encourage whether you're

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Speaker 4: a parent, a grandparent, a godparent, whatever role you may

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Speaker 4: serve in the child's life that we're still their best

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Speaker 4: and first advocates always.

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Speaker 3: I love that, Hadela. What you got.

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Speaker 5: Mine is I want to urge you all, if you haven't,

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Speaker 5: to please go back black black, go black, Yes, but

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Speaker 5: also go back and listen to our episode with the

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Speaker 5: Afro Bibleist. Oh yeah, I'm encouraging that because and if

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Speaker 5: you need to do it like once a month. And

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Speaker 5: I'm saying that because I really want us to be

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Speaker 5: clear about the danger that lies ahead. I really want

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Speaker 5: us to figure out what concerted effort, what role we

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Speaker 5: can play in the times that are coming. Whether you

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Speaker 5: are a funder and you want to help people with

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Speaker 5: legal expenses in this very illegal setup that we find

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Speaker 5: ourselves in, if you are a black farmer and you

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Speaker 5: want to ensure that fresh produce is available to your community,

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Speaker 5: if you have land and you want to make sure

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Speaker 5: that there's a safe haven for those of us who

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Speaker 5: need safety and lack shelter or property. I just want

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Speaker 5: us to be very intentional about what assets, what talents,

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Speaker 5: what gifts we have to pour into this communal pot

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Speaker 5: in this environment. And please be ready. You know what

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Speaker 5: they say, y'all, If we say ready, we ain't got

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Speaker 5: to give thank you to flavor Flave Andrew you already

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Speaker 5: went and tip you have.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm glad to go. Last.

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Speaker 1: What I was gonna say, mine's a little woo woo.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like we're all a little more sentiment

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Speaker 1: so in our call saction this week. So I just

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Speaker 1: had a long therapy session that I'll tell you guys

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Speaker 1: about later, but it's really brought home the idea to

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Speaker 1: me that life is so temporary, like so temporary, but

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Speaker 1: not just temporary but brief, like it goes by, like

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Speaker 1: the years can be seconds, like we really just are

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Speaker 1: tiny grains of sand in this hour glass of time.

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Speaker 1: And it has put in perspective for me because I

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Speaker 1: would look back at my life and in my twenties

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Speaker 1: and my thirties, it was like I was making all

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Speaker 1: these plans, waiting for life to begin. And then when

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Speaker 1: you get to forty and you look back and you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh no, but life was happening all those times that

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Speaker 1: you were making plans and waiting for life to start,

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Speaker 1: your life was happening. Then life happens all around you,

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Speaker 1: and so the decades are flying by and now that

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Speaker 1: I'm closer to fifty than I am to forty, then

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Speaker 1: I am the thirty twenty. It's really making me center

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Speaker 1: the fact that every single day is a gift and

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Speaker 1: every single day is happening right now, because I even

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Speaker 1: find myself now waiting for life to begin. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe life will begin when I insert whatever, you know,

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Speaker 1: when I get this dream job, when I get married,

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Speaker 1: when I achieve something I don't know whatever your insert is,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't feel that way. And so it

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Speaker 1: started with small things for me. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I've always wanted this liquor cabinet, I'm going.

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Speaker 3: To buy it, like why wait?

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Speaker 1: Or you know I have this special bottle that I've

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Speaker 1: been waiting the crack open.

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Speaker 3: But it's today is special because.

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Speaker 1: I'm alive and I'm well, and I'm here and I'm

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Speaker 1: bearing witness to this history. So not letting the minutia

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Speaker 1: of the day get me down, but really embracing the

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Speaker 1: fact that I am living my life today. I am present,

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Speaker 1: and even in some African cultures, there is no concept

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Speaker 1: of a future, there's no concept of tomorrow, because it's

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Speaker 1: just your imagination. Today is happening right now. So I

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Speaker 1: just want to share that with everybody. And if it

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Speaker 1: encourages you to be more present in this moment and

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Speaker 1: live today, then whatever that means it looks like to you,

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you guys about it with you.

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Speaker 4: But my mother in law, yes, please please tell me.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, my mother luve like, so

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Speaker 4: you know how you have china cabinets and nice towels

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Speaker 4: that you don't bring out except for my mother. Love

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Speaker 4: does not live that way. It don't matter what she's serving,

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Speaker 4: it's going if she's eaten by herself, it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: on her china, it's gonna be on her fine dining.

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Speaker 4: If she's gonna wear her you know mink, if she

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Speaker 4: wants to, she's you know, you close to her over

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Speaker 4: there at Alabama. Uh, Angela. But but I love that,

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Speaker 4: And I found myself of late and honestly, this is

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Speaker 4: an every night inventory. It has become is when my

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Speaker 4: kids time to go to bed, I start like retracing,

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Speaker 4: like did I spend enough time talking to them after

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Speaker 4: school today? Did I spend enough time? Like it's kind

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Speaker 4: of getting underneath just evaluating that in the you know,

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Speaker 4: in the day, in the moment, and then trying to

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Speaker 4: do better than setting myself up in the fantasy and

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Speaker 4: the what hasn't come. But what I hope to manifest

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Speaker 4: is that tomorrow I'll spend more time because, as they say,

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Speaker 4: the days alone, but the years are short. Yea, And

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Speaker 4: I think that's true for not just children, but you know,

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Speaker 4: for for our individual lives. The days, yeah, they can

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Speaker 4: be long, but the years are short.

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Speaker 3: So true, so true.

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Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that you all can take something from

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Speaker 1: that and shout out to Andrew's mother in law. He

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Speaker 1: talks about you all the time. The boy loved his

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Speaker 1: mother and his mother in love.

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Speaker 4: Your mama.

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Speaker 3: We love mom, yes, absolutely all right.

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Speaker 4: People, I should always be young people, girl always got anyway.

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Speaker 1: We are Tiviny Gries, Angela right, Andrew Gilliam.

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Speaker 3: There are four hundred and eighteen days.

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Speaker 1: Until midterm elections, but we don't see if those actually happened.

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Speaker 3: Welcome home, gotch you.

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Speaker 2: We thank you for joining the Natives attention of with

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Speaker 2: the info and all of the latest Roy Gillum and

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Speaker 2: cross connected to the statements that you leave on our socials.

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Speaker 2: Thank you sincerely for the patients. Reason for your choice

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Speaker 2: is clear. So grateful it took to execute roles than

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Speaker 2: for serve, defend and protect the truth even in pace

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Speaker 2: will walk home to all of the natives, We thank you.

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