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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live, presented by calllighta health All.

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Speaker 2: Right, Welcome in to a Monday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as we embark on

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Speaker 2: what is commonly known in these parts football wise anyway

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Speaker 2: as the dead season, a season in which the players

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Speaker 2: are gone. They're on their five week, five and a

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Speaker 2: half week vacation. I don't know that many players would

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Speaker 2: call it a vacation. In fact, a handful are still

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Speaker 2: here rehabing injuries and doing the thing.

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Speaker 1: Though you come in, you're in shape. You can't lose it,

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Speaker 1: that's right.

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Speaker 2: And we heard coach say it last week when he

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Speaker 2: addressed the media. Players know that their off season work

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Speaker 2: kind of in a way culminates here with mandatory mini camp. Right,

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Speaker 2: But when they go away, it's not a vacation. It's

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Speaker 2: a tune up because when they come back they have

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Speaker 2: to be ready for football. Not only do not training

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Speaker 2: camp anymore to get in shape for the season that

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Speaker 2: all the day, like decades.

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Speaker 1: Over those that was gone before my time. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: training camp is a misnomer. It's you know, season starts,

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Speaker 1: that's it. You got to show up, not only got

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Speaker 1: to show up one hundred percent healthy. You gotta show

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Speaker 1: up one hundred percent healthy and feeling good and you

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Speaker 1: know the whole thing. You got to be in great

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Speaker 1: physical shape. Most of the time. One of the things

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Speaker 1: that always happens brownie guys show up and there's such

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Speaker 1: a crescendo to that for players, Adrenaline kicks in and

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Speaker 1: somebody gets hurt right away because they just they're like, ugh,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's go. And they feel like it's opening

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Speaker 1: day or you know, it's the first kickoff, let's go,

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Speaker 1: and they show up and they pop something just because

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Speaker 1: they're adrenaline spikes because they're so excited about getting started.

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Speaker 1: It happens all the time. We've seen it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and they've got to stay on it. I mean, really,

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Speaker 2: their only break, is their only true break, is after

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Speaker 2: the season's over. You let the body heal. You take

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Speaker 1: Weeks, four teximums, you take a month if tops. And

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Speaker 1: even in that month, you're like, you know, you're riding

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Speaker 1: a bike, or you're playing some racquetball, doing some something competitive,

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Speaker 1: just fooling around for kicksing giggles, just to stay you know, flexible. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the but the real rest, and let's face it,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's not physical, it's mental.

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Speaker 2: So you're away from that daily crime.

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Speaker 1: Just late used laying down mentally, you know, just put

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Speaker 1: me on a beach in my mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Bill's notes to pass along to you. The Bills

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Speaker 2: organization lost a member of their two time AFL title

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Speaker 2: teams this past week. Former left tackle Stu Barber passed

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Speaker 2: away just three days before his eighty seventh birthday in

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Speaker 2: South Carolina, where he was enjoying retirement. Barber was a

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Speaker 2: five time AFL All Star and a pair of first

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Speaker 2: team All AFL nods in his career. Following his retirement

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Speaker 2: at the close of the sixty nine season, Barber was

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Speaker 2: named to the second team AFL All Time Team the

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Speaker 2: following year in nineteen seventy. After his playing career, Barber

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Speaker 2: also transitioned to college scouting, serving in Buffalo's personnel department,

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Speaker 2: rose through the ranks to assist in and VP of

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Speaker 2: football administration. Barber's front office time with the Bills ended

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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty three. So, yeah, you know, it's sad

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Speaker 2: our time on this earth is finite.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Stu Barber was. He was in the building just

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Speaker 1: shortly before I arrived. I mean he was. You know,

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Speaker 1: people still spoke about him on one of those guys

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Speaker 1: That's too bad.

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Speaker 2: Over the weekend as well, tomorrow, Hamlin's Chasing Millions Foundation

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Speaker 2: had its annual charity basketball game fundraiser down in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 2: his native Pittsburgh people. Keon Coleman took over the game.

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Speaker 2: Now there are conflicting reports. Some on social media said

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Speaker 2: he scored seventy in the game, but it looks as

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Speaker 2: though it was just a mere sixty points scored. And look,

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Speaker 2: I know these charity games very wide open, not a

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Speaker 2: for those that don't know, in high school, he was

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Speaker 2: mister basketball in the state of Louisiana. Went to play

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Speaker 1: He showed it off. I mean, and he was hitting threes.

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Speaker 1: in that neighborhood, it was bananas and I'm listen. I

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Speaker 1: used to play basketball for the Bills, so it's not

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Speaker 1: there's not grinding defense on the court there, but still

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Speaker 1: lots of fun for a good cause.

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Speaker 2: He put on a show, which is kind of what

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Speaker 2: you want to do with these charity games.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, that's why people come in. I want

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Speaker 2: The thing that perplexes me is the people that call

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Speaker 2: casual atmosphere, we're just out here having fun. But I'd

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Speaker 2: you got to at least two refs out there, and

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Speaker 2: then you got an announcer or two, Like it's okay

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Speaker 2: I was a little well.

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Speaker 1: It's nice, but it's nice to see all those guys.

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Speaker 1: A lot of guys show up though. Uh, Steph Diggs

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Speaker 1: and he's a Pittsburgh Nader. Jack guys down there, good stuff,

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Speaker 1: it's good to see that happen. Good good on him.

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Speaker 1: Good Yeah, nice time to do it. Just long enough,

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Speaker 2: And they try to schedule these around times where they know,

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Speaker 2: and he probably throws all those guys guys in a

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Speaker 2: But what are we thinking like a big bus? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: party bus party, Oh yeah, twenty passenger party buses. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a that's a better call. And I'll put you

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Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, you know most and at this time

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Speaker 1: I know this scramble golf tournaments are the big charity

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Speaker 1: perfect too to do it on a night when you know,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so hopefully they raised a lot of money

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Speaker 2: we'll have people coming back for more next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that will get us to our topic of discussion

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Speaker 2: in just a little bit. But we're gonna go around

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Speaker 2: the NFL. First around the NFL brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Collida Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: and the Cincinnati Bengals, have resumed contract talks with disgruntled

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Speaker 2: pass rusher Trey Hendrickson on a new long term deal

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Speaker 2: Hendrickson has said publicly he will not play under his

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Speaker 2: a player with seventeen and a half sacks each of

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Speaker 2: the last two seasons, especially after Miles Garrett signed a

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Speaker 2: bargaining table. As we know, Hendrickson's skip mandatory mini camp

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Speaker 2: last week, incurring fines of just over one hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: so we'll see where it goes. Because they also have

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Speaker 2: I just remember this, both Maxwell Harrison and Dion Walker

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Speaker 2: second round pick TJ. Sanders who remains unsigned at this

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Speaker 2: juncture in Buffalo's draft class. So that was good to

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Speaker 1: Together, there you go.

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Speaker 2: So that was good.

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Speaker 1: The stuff in Cincinnati is gonna take care of himself.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to some of the commentators the national

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Speaker 1: I don't really think about too much about the Bengals

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Speaker 1: and their problems or or benefits or whatever. The guys

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Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna happen. They're gonna get this deal done.

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Speaker 1: It's not gonna it's it's acrimonious already. That Chaneuer, Shamir

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Speaker 1: Shamar Shamar Stewart is gonna get signed. They'll do all

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Speaker 1: this stuff. We've seen this from Cincinnati before. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: Well. The cap space was created last week when they

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Speaker 2: released Jermaine Pratt.

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Speaker 1: Right, the only time this didn't get done was not

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Speaker 1: Leon made it point. He got it personally. That was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they offered him like seventy five million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen million dollars. He never got back fifteen million because

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Speaker 2: Two years later he was out of the league.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: So he lost the year and probably cut his career short.

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Speaker 1: Henderson played this year out and for eighteen million, by

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Speaker 1: players get caught up in it. Yes, it's behind the times, subpar,

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Speaker 1: But he outperformed the contract when he signed his second contract,

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Speaker 1: Most people say he hopes to see the end of it. Well,

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Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know Kansas City is

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Speaker 1: follow the money. I don't know if it'll happen.

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Speaker 1: Expect everybody. All four entities, the Missouri State Legislature, the

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Speaker 2: Who will wear And it is the Missouri River actually

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Speaker 1: That makes a little sense, doesn't it. It does the

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Speaker 2: There was plenty of focus on a culture change prior

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Speaker 1: Here, crazy man.

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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of veteran leadership on that team.

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Speaker 1: I was part of a team that was horrifically dysfunctional

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Speaker 2: Topic of discussion for you today, Which Bills players in

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Speaker 2: I think we can all expect Keon to be among them,

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Speaker 2: I've got my starting five. I'm not ready to reveal

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Speaker 2: are the numbers to jump on board with us having

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Speaker 2: a little fun today. Which Bill's players would you put

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Speaker 2: on a basketball starting five lineup? We got to take

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Speaker 2: a break here, but we're back with your phone calls

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Speaker 2: and tweets on the tweet sheeet. Next on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by coll Out of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back Monday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris brown stee you task you with you having a

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Speaker 2: little fun today. After keon sixty point outburst did Damar

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Speaker 2: Hamlin's charity basketball game last weekend in Pittsburgh, It's Bill's players.

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Speaker 2: Would you put on a basketball starting five lineup? On

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Speaker 2: this current roster? Eight oh three oh five fifteen the

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Speaker 2: number to get on board. But let's go to the phones.

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Speaker 2: Got some people waiting patiently. There, we got Miran and Richmond.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 4: Hi, Joen, thanks for saving my call.

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 4: My question is not in regard to the to the

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Speaker 4: question guys play the day, but more in line in

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Speaker 4: regards to the offensive line. It's pretty well known that

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Speaker 4: that you know, this ross is pretty pretty hard to

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Speaker 4: make from all positions, but particularly the line. If you

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Speaker 4: guys can give a rundown of your you know, the

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Speaker 4: top nine folks in terms of likely to making the roster.

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Speaker 4: And then who are some price squad candidates and if

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Speaker 4: anyone is a price to got quick? If anyone is

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Speaker 4: a price squad candidate, are they? You know you think

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Speaker 4: it'd be a good trade Bata, What do you think

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Speaker 4: that Brendan be would be able to get for them

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Speaker 4: on the on the trade market?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, you're that's good. Yeah, there's a lot there,

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Speaker 1: and I think the offensive line and you're right, I

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Speaker 1: think there is some value there that you can trim off,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean off? Just to begin with,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about Osiris Torrance, you're talking.

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Speaker 2: About well left to right, starting lion Dawkins, Dawkins, Edwards McGovern,

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Speaker 2: Torrance Brown. Those are your starting five from last year

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Speaker 2: and we don't anticipate that's going to change. And then

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Speaker 2: your backups are Tyland Grable and Ryan Vandermark at the tackles.

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Speaker 2: Your backup center for all intents and purposes is Cedric

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Speaker 2: van pran Grainger. Alec Anderson is your backup guard slash center,

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Speaker 2: and he's also your sixth offensive lineman. So you're already

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Speaker 2: at nine there. Yeah, okay, then what you have after

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Speaker 2: that is a collection of young talent, but you also

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Speaker 2: have a veteran backup guard that they picked up from

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Speaker 2: Houston and Kendrick Green. And then after that you still

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Speaker 2: have last year's international player who was a seventh round pick,

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Speaker 2: Travis Clayton, who they're bringing along. Beyond him, you've got

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Speaker 2: guys that have toiled on the practice squad, like a

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Speaker 2: Richard Garage who's played guard and tackle, and then you

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Speaker 2: have the draft choice Chase Lunt, who's a tackle by trade,

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Speaker 2: and then after that it's largely rookies and practice squad guys.

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Speaker 2: I think what you're looking at is you're gonna keep

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Speaker 2: nine ten at the most. So if you keep ten,

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Speaker 2: you're probably keeping all four offensive tackles like they did

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Speaker 2: last year on their roster they kept both Ryan Vandermark

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Speaker 2: and Thailand Grabil. Tackles are most valuable, so you want

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Speaker 2: to hold onto them should injury strike. It never really

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Speaker 2: did last year. Spencer Brown missed one game it was

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Speaker 2: against the Chiefs, and Vandermark played admirably and they lost

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Speaker 2: Thailand Grabil to a core muscle injury for most of

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Speaker 2: the season. So that's just a small example of why.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt to keep for if you want to write,

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Speaker 1: if you want to cut it razor thin and just

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Speaker 1: like nine guys, and that's it, nine guys. If one

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Speaker 1: of these others I finger quotes others, if Grable, if

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Speaker 1: you want to keep him and you want to use well,

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Speaker 1: like Chase Lund, if you can swap out Chase Lund

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Speaker 1: for Vandermark or Grabel, Grabel and Vandermark, they've probably got

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Speaker 1: some value on the trade market. Vander Mark is a

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Speaker 1: starting caliber tackle.

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Speaker 2: About twelve to fourteen teams right tackle, and for that

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Speaker 2: you can probably get like a third round draft choice

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Speaker 2: for that right.

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Speaker 1: And if Grabel is a guy that the Bills can

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Speaker 1: convince another team like, this guy was our swing tackle

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Speaker 1: and he just got injured. He's a good player and

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Speaker 1: he's young, so he's even more valuable if another team

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Speaker 1: is convinced he's the guy. So those are the ones

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Speaker 1: where you might not mind doing it. Maybe Van prang Grainger,

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Speaker 1: if you've got somebody else that you think that can

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Speaker 1: play center. Van prang Grainger has a really impressive pedigree

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Speaker 1: at the college level. Yes, there's some value there for

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Speaker 1: you to but let me just put it this way.

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Speaker 1: If it's a tackle, and if like if you can

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Speaker 1: attach an a an addendum to the trade and say,

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Speaker 1: listen to Vandermark starts ninety percent of the snaps for

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Speaker 1: you this season, we want a third for him. You

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Speaker 1: could probably go that high. But that's about it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to get much more than that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, in a way, you could argue that the

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Speaker 2: Bills have an embarrassment of riches on the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: There are many teams, there are many teams in this

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Speaker 2: league that currently at this moment, have four tackles on

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Speaker 2: their roster who can play and play well.

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Speaker 1: Now, They've also not alone. Not only have they had

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Speaker 1: high level offensive line play, they've also had high level

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Speaker 1: good fortune. They've had one game missed by a starter

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Speaker 1: in two years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the law of averages, Yes, that's probably not

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Speaker 2: going to continue. So I'm anticipating with where the bill

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Speaker 2: are trying to go this year, which is to win

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Speaker 2: the whole enchilada, that they're going to try to keep

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Speaker 2: as much of their talent as they can. And if

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Speaker 2: you look at their roster, it has been assembled that

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Speaker 2: way on purpose. They want as many stop gap answers

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Speaker 2: in the event of injury as they can find. And

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Speaker 2: if you look positioned by position, Brandon being in his

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Speaker 2: personnel department have made that their mission in doing that.

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Speaker 2: So if the unfortunate happens, they're not up a creek

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Speaker 2: without a paddle, with the exception of probably quarterback. But

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Speaker 2: it's hard to duplicate a freak of venture.

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Speaker 1: That's every top team is in that exact same boat.

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Speaker 1: Every contenders in that exact same boat. Kansas City's in

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Speaker 1: that boat, Philadelphia's in that boat, Buffalo, Baltimore, Cincinnati, La,

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Speaker 1: the Rams, Detroit, they're all in that exact same boat.

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Speaker 1: Now you lose that guy and you have to change

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Speaker 1: your recipe real quick.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and go to John

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Speaker 2: in Tonawana next, let me pull him up here. What

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Speaker 2: you got fir Us John?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I'm I I hope

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Speaker 4: that we signed James Cook to a contract.

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Speaker 1: To send him because he's one of the best running

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Speaker 1: backs got on the team right now, and so I'll

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Speaker 1: just want are they going to we sign him at

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Speaker 1: the Nefster or let him go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know for sure, although I will say this.

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Speaker 2: Brandon being addressed the media last Thursday at the end

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Speaker 2: of mandatory mini camp and he was asked by the media,

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Speaker 2: do you expect James to report for training camp? And

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Speaker 2: he said, yes, I do, whether he has a new

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Speaker 2: contract or not, which perked my ears up because the

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Speaker 2: next thing I'm thinking of is does that mean they're

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Speaker 2: talking about a new contract.

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Speaker 1: It does sound like there's a conversation.

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Speaker 2: No member of the media followed up with with such

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Speaker 2: a question, but if he's talking about it in those terms,

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Speaker 2: it leads me to believe that the door is at

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Speaker 2: least open, if it hasn't been opened already, to discuss

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Speaker 2: some of those things more or at least revisit it

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Speaker 2: to see if any progress can be made on that front.

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Speaker 2: I think the Bills organization has enough respect for James

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Speaker 2: and his game and what he's done for the team

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Speaker 2: to at least revisit the subject and see if there

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Speaker 2: is any common ground to be had. Steve and I

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Speaker 2: have talked off air because I think there are ways

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Speaker 2: to structure a deal in such a way even though

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Speaker 2: the money in terms of total value may not change.

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Speaker 2: You can structure a contract in a way to make

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Speaker 2: it more palatable to the player by giving him more

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Speaker 2: money sooner rather than later in the length of the deal,

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Speaker 2: and if the average annual value is boosted, maybe even

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Speaker 2: in just the first year and maybe the second year

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Speaker 2: on a three year extension, you front load the money

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Speaker 2: so he feels like, well, in the first two years,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting thirteen and a half a year, and that's

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Speaker 2: pretty close to where I want it to be. So

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Speaker 2: I can make twenty seven million dollars in the first

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Speaker 2: two years of the deal, I'm making more than thirteen

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Speaker 2: a year. Maybe that is good enough to get it done,

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Speaker 2: and you know, maybe the Bills can structure it in

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Speaker 2: such a way that it's more palatable and more acceptable

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Speaker 2: to Cook and they can find common ground. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying it's gonna happen. But hearing Brandon Bean talked that

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Speaker 2: way last Thursday leads me to believe that the subject

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Speaker 2: is going to at least be revisited between now and

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Speaker 2: training camp.

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Speaker 1: Right it sounded like an open conversation if nothing else,

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Speaker 1: and maybe even if it wasn't, maybe that is an

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Speaker 1: alert to Cook's representation to pick up the phone. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, come on and give us a call. So

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm with you, Brownie hundred percent that. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any ill feelings on either side right now.

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Speaker 1: I think James Cook knows the business side of it

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Speaker 1: exactly like the Bills know it, and his representations on

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Speaker 1: board with it. They there is a disagreement about the money, probably,

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Speaker 1: no question there always is. That's why you have to

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Speaker 1: negotiate what it's gonna The final numbers are going to

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Speaker 1: look like I just say this, it has. They did

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Speaker 1: it with Devin Singletary, and I think they knew Devin

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Speaker 1: Singletary would make much more money on the open market,

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Speaker 1: and they he played out his contract. I think maybe

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Speaker 1: they're saying James Cook can do the same thing. They

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Speaker 1: probably have a number out here for James cook and said,

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Speaker 1: this is our number, this is what our contract looks

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Speaker 1: like for you. If you don't like it, we'll get

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Speaker 1: out of the way and let you go to free

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Speaker 1: and we won't franchise you. We won't do any of that.

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Speaker 1: So well, you can go out and find out what

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Speaker 1: you're worth. You know you're going to hit it big

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Speaker 1: if you have a big year this year, but give

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Speaker 1: us the benefit of your big year and you can

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Speaker 1: have the benefit of it as well in the year after.

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Speaker 1: That's probably been part of the conversation, if not ongoing

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Speaker 1: negotiates about the number that he can get this year

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Speaker 1: and a new deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I just think if he would have, if he

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Speaker 2: had his brothers, he'd prefer the security of a long

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Speaker 2: term deal rather than playing on the last year of

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Speaker 2: his rookie Yeah. So you know, he knows what he wants,

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Speaker 2: he knows what his value is. But how much do

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Speaker 2: you move on that move off of what you believe

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Speaker 2: your perceived value is if you have other thoughts in mind,

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Speaker 2: That's where I think it gets interesting. And we'll see

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Speaker 2: if there's any movement on that front between now and

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Speaker 2: the starting training camp in late July eighth, three oh

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one, eight of eight, five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five fifty. We saw Keon drop sixty at DeMar Hamlin's

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Speaker 2: charity basketball game last weekend in Pittsburgh. Who's your starting

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Speaker 2: five from this Bill's lineup on a basketball team? Eight

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Speaker 2: O three oh five fifty the number to get on board.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Corey down in Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 3: Corey, I'd have to say my starting five would Keyon

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Speaker 3: for sure, Josh Allen, Spencer Brown, Greg Russo. And for

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Speaker 3: my fifth man, that's tough h.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I guess another offensive lineman, Dion Dawkins for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, there's your power forward, all right, Corey definitely, Yeah,

651
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: all right, that's not a bad crew.

652
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Speaker 1: I like it.

653
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 2: You had a lot of the same names. I had.

654
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: Got Donald Curry on the coaching staff, but Ronald Ronald Curry.

655
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he did a good job on length and

656
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 2: put Spencer Brown in the low post. You got Rousseau

657
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: down there as your four getting rebounds.

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Speaker 1: And how about yeah, we used we used to play

659
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: off season basketball before it was before the salary cap,

660
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: because once the salary cap hit, we would go out

661
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: and play charity basketball games and every guy get a

662
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Speaker 1: couple of hundred bucks and they split the the ticket sales.

663
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Speaker 1: We split it with the school or whatever, fifty to

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Speaker 1: fifty and they, you know, they could fund their.

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Speaker 2: Whatever club or athletic associate.

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Speaker 1: And unbelievably, when the salary cap came into effect, we

667
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Speaker 1: had to stop doing it because that couple hundred bucks

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Speaker 1: per player for going out and running the floor with

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Speaker 1: teachers went on the cap.

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Speaker 2: John Butler was like, what, that's a no, stop doing that.

671
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Speaker 2: They're not doing that, and you're not doing that anymore.

672
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Speaker 2: So you guys are like a barnstorming bases.

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Speaker 1: We had a bark, we had uniforms, the whole thing,

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Speaker 1: and uh, it was a lot of fun. But the

675
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: games were not serious obviously. But I do remember we

676
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Speaker 1: have guys like Will Wolford and Cornelie's Bennett show up

677
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: and Pete Metzlars, some guys who Pete had a national

678
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: championship being at WAH Keith mckeller had a national championship

679
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: at UH South Carolina State or wherever it was he

680
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: played hoops. So you had some and Corney's Bennett, who

681
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: was an elite athlete anyway, But every so often Will

682
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Speaker 1: Wolford or one of those guys show up as a

683
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: big left tackle. They can clear out the lane in

684
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Speaker 1: a hurry. Oh it's unbelievable. So yeah, having Dion Dawkins

685
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: on your starting five, I get the benefit of that.

686
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: It's like remember Wes Unselled back in the day, same

687
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: kind of thing that. How does a show up? It's like, Mike,

688
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Speaker 1: we're old wes Unseld.

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Speaker 2: I remember wes Unseld. Yeah, you gotta be a Laura

690
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: as a coach than a player. But I know he was,

691
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: you know, the Baltimore Bullets center and won a title

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Speaker 2: for them.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's right.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we've got to take a break here. When we

695
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Speaker 2: come back, we're gonna lead off with Joe and Tennessee

696
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Speaker 2: and others holding at eight oh three oh five fifty.

697
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Speaker 2: But we do have open lines for you. We're having

698
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Speaker 2: some fun with the basketball starting five for the Bills,

699
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: but if you have any other thoughts in mind, we

700
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Speaker 2: welcome those on the Bills as well. A three oh

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Speaker 2: five fifty and more of your phone calls. Next, you're

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live presented by Coalidae Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bill's Radio. A right back here, on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Who's on your starting five on a basketball court from

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Speaker 2: this Bill's roster. We just watched Keyon Coleman dropped sixty

706
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 2: in a Tomorrow Hamlin charity basketball game last weekend in Pittsburgh.

707
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 2: Thought we'd have a little fun with that, So chime

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Speaker 2: in on that if you wish at eight O three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two, five

710
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: fifty any questioned under the Sun's fair game as well

711
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: on the Bills, So feel free.

712
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Speaker 1: To do that. Every you know, the players compete constantly,

713
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Speaker 1: and historically speaking, basketball has been one of the other

714
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Speaker 1: sports that all these guys play on their way up

715
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Speaker 1: through the academics, you know, through high school and some

716
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: of them in college, like Keon, but certainly in high

717
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: school these guys start to get set aside athletically because

718
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: of their bill physical abilities. So they've all played it,

719
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: and you get into an NFL locker room, you will

720
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: be hard pressed not to find like ten guys who

721
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: will say, nah, I got you, let's go, you know,

722
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: so there's a lot of that going on. So all

723
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Speaker 1: these guys, there's a ton of guys in there who

724
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Speaker 1: played hoops. I don't know, don't. Dalton Kincaid has started

725
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Speaker 1: to show up on a lot of these lists. I

726
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: don't know. Is he played, Yeah, I believe he did.

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00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: He got transitioned from basketball to football. You know who

728
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: else did? TJ. Sanders? Oh yeah, the rookie second round pick.

729
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 2: He was like an all state basketball player in South

730
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Speaker 2: Carolina and then like his junior year, his high school

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Speaker 2: coach came up to him and he's like, Uh, you're

732
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Speaker 2: really good at basketball. He goes, you're not playing pro

733
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Speaker 2: with this body. You're a football player, right, and he

734
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Speaker 2: kind of pour it into football and the rest is history. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: here he is in the NFL. Now let's go to

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Speaker 2: the phones though. At eight o three zero five to fifty,

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Speaker 2: we go to Joe out in Tennessee. What's up, Joe?

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Speaker 5: Hi, Steven, Chris big fans of the show and appreciate

739
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 5: you keeping us in forms since we relocated to Tennessee.

740
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Speaker 1: When all things.

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Speaker 5: So Steve the question I had you brought up a

742
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 5: good point several minutes ago about how there's so many

743
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Speaker 5: teams that are in the same boat if their starting

744
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 5: quarterback went down. My question to you guys.

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Speaker 6: Would be maybe out of the top eight teams in

746
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Speaker 6: the league with true franchise quarterbacks. Where would you rank

747
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 6: the teams if their franchise quarterbacks got hurt and still

748
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Speaker 6: being deep enough to at least maybe be able to

749
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Speaker 6: get into the playoffs and make a run with their backup.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good. Yeah. And I got to tell you,

751
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: I couldn't even name all the backup quarterbacks they had

752
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: because those guys usually are relevancies, you know. In Yeah,

753
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: the team Kansas City would still be good because Andy

754
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: Reid and the weapons they have offensively gives them a chance.

755
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo would win some games, although they've got because of

756
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: their schedule this year.

757
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 2: Well, and they can run the football and they can

758
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: run the ball.

759
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: That would help any quarter That would help Trubisky, it

760
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: would help Bouchale, Yeah, Shane shune Buschell Baltimore, they've got

761
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Speaker 1: probably are a setup as well as anybody as well

762
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Speaker 1: with their backup.

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Speaker 2: I would say Philly because they can run the football.

764
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Speaker 2: It's more about what the offense can do without that quarterback.

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Speaker 2: That resonates with me.

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Speaker 1: Now, last year, the Bills would have been in trouble

767
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: because of their probably because of their defense trying to

768
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: hold people off the board. To complement a lesser scoring offense.

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Speaker 1: That would have been difficult.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Atlanta still has Cousins, so but they couldn't

771
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Speaker 2: make the playoffs last year with him.

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00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.

773
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: So I mean make of that what you will. But

774
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 2: you know, the teams with the best quarterback situations one two,

775
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: you could argue, are the Giants who have Winston and

776
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson and the rookie Jackson dart right, you know,

777
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Speaker 2: and then it's probably Atlanta because they have Cousins Jacksonville.

778
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: There's not too much of a drop off. Is Mac

779
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: Jones still there as the backup? I don't know if

780
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Speaker 2: he is. He was there last year, but I think

781
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: he moved to San Francisco, So their backup now is

782
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Speaker 2: Nick Mullins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't like that.

784
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 2: So maybe at San Francisco because you have Mac Jones

785
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,479
Speaker 2: backing up Rock Purty, are they that terribly different skill

786
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 2: set wise? Probably not.

787
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Speaker 1: Now you're you know, you're talking if you stick with

788
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Speaker 1: the playoff team, if you go out of the playoff teams,

789
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Speaker 1: which this year would be Cincinnati, you know, Joe Burrow

790
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: means a big deal in Cincinnati Indianapolis. I mean that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would. You'd be struggled to say they'd be a rush.

792
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: Is the backup in Paul Timore? Like is that enough?

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00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, so I would.

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Speaker 2: I think Steve's point still holds water here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And even for teams that are further down the list,

797
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: you lose the starting guy and it's you don't know

798
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Speaker 1: what you really don't know what you've got as a

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Speaker 1: commodity behind him. You would look for teams also, you

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Speaker 1: know a team that might not I know this sounds

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00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: like I'm piling on a team like Miami. It might

802
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: be well, you go to it is Zach Wilson, right,

803
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: but the offense is built around to his ability to

804
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: get the ball out quick. Zach Wilson could do that.

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00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: They may have a chance to kind of keep it

806
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Speaker 1: afloat because it's a you know, system base, and they

807
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: could they could more. Kansas City is still the team.

808
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: And to me that if you lose Mahomes, as crazy

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00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: as it sounds, you could you know, Andy Reid, Travis Kelsey,

810
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy and now she Rice coming back. You would

811
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Speaker 1: think maybe they could make chicken salad out of that.

812
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: With Andy Reid and all that. So maybe but because

813
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: I give Andy Reid so much credit, you know, offensively,

814
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: and plus he's the guy, and he's the head coach.

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Speaker 1: He's a signal caller, you know, the play caller. Unfortunately,

816
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: I think if that happened, they might be lesser hamstrung

817
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: than other every other team even with that guy.

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Speaker 2: Well right, yeah, I mean it's a drop off for

819
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: just about everybody, and a precipitous wanted that. So it's

820
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: very hard to maintain your level of play. I mean,

821
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Speaker 2: their backup now is Gardner Minshew for whatever it's worth.

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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but when we

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Speaker 2: come back, we're gonna be joined with NFL on CBS

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Speaker 2: sideline reporter Evan Washburn, who is also the preseason analyst

825
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Speaker 2: for Baltimore Ravens for ball, and we know who Buffalo's

826
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Speaker 2: Week one opponent is, so we're gonna check in with

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Speaker 2: him to see what kind of an offseason it's been

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Speaker 2: for the Ravens. When we return for hour number two

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Speaker 2: here on One Bills Live presented by Colida Health, It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: This the One Bills Live presented by Kaleida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, now, number two here on a Monday Chris Brown,

833
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and please to welcome a board

834
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Speaker 2: now NFL on CBS sideline reporter Evan Washburn, who we

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Speaker 2: unfortunately will not have his presence gracing us in Week

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Speaker 2: one since that is a Sunday night NBC game, but

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Speaker 2: we know whenever the Ravens are in town there's a

838
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: good chance Evan Washburn is going to follow because he

839
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Speaker 2: is the preseason analyst for Ravens broadcasts as well, so

840
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: we figured we pull him in to kind of get

841
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: the four to one one on the off season they

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00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: have put together. So Evan, first of all, thanks for

843
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: joining us. We know there's some congratulations in order. Here

844
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Speaker 2: is your latest award. You had to enlist the help

845
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Speaker 2: of nine and ten year olds to help secure it,

846
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 2: but nonetheless they lacrosse trophy on the mantle. Now, congratulations,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a new challenge of the offseason. Can you

849
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 7: lead a nine and ten year old club lacrosse team

850
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 7: through the ups and downs and the roller coaster that

851
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 7: is you sports at this stage? But no, it's a

852
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 7: ton of fun. I got to win up up on

853
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 7: Long Island. When you're from Baltimore, that's a big deal

854
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 7: and good to be with you guys talking a little

855
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 7: ball here on a Monday, and I feel like this

856
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 7: is our primer. I'm starting to build out the schedule

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00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 7: for the training camp tour and there's no doubt I'll

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Speaker 7: be making a stop in rock Vegas and we'll do

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Speaker 7: this in person.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, give it an idea. And I know we're

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Speaker 1: in the same boat as you. I mean, we get

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00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: that kind of the dark area, one of the very

863
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: brief dark area of the NFL goes dark late June

864
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: and through July. You're doing it with lacrosse. We're doing

865
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: actually with hoops here. We had a charity basketball game

866
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh with Damar Hamlin and Keon Coleman goes down

867
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: and dumps sixty points in the game. And we're having

868
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: people say, who's the best five guys on the Bills

869
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: team that could play a hoops game? Right, And so

870
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: we're getting all of that going.

871
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: You have.

872
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: You cover Baltimore and stuff. Give us an idea. I

873
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: mean I tell people all the time, and they don't extend.

874
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: These guys compete all the time, and you start getting

875
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: guys in the locker room talking about who can play

876
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: hoops better than other guys who can play ping pong,

877
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: who can play cornhole? For goodness sakes, give us an idea.

878
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: You do the Baltimore Ravens, and I know you know

879
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: those guys have some cross athletes as there as well.

880
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: Who stands out in your mind? You have guys like

881
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: that over there, no doubt.

882
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's an interesting exercise and I often think you

883
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 7: can test the metal of any good whether you call

884
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 7: it talk show, studio show, when you've got to figure

885
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 7: out content in this time of the season. I actually

886
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 7: enjoyed it. I had one who's doing a serious XM show,

887
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 7: and maybe you guys can use this later. It was

888
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 7: around Memorial Day, but you could do it at any

889
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 7: point in the summer. Who would be the coaches you

890
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 7: want to make out in your Memorial Day barbecue? And

891
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 7: that was a fun exercise because you got to check

892
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 7: all the different boxes from the social dynamic standpoint. But

893
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 7: specific to basketball, I can't think of anybody on the

894
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 7: roster the wide receiver I think they drafted from UNC.

895
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 7: If he's still on the roster, I think had a

896
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 7: basketball background. Look, it's pretty simple. Usually go with wide

897
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,959
Speaker 7: receivers dbs They're a great place to start. I can't

898
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 7: imagine Kyle Hamilton's not awesome at basketball, because he's awesome

899
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 7: at whatever he chooses to do athletically. Obviously a bright

900
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 7: guy as well, but the sneaky guy. And you know

901
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 7: his storyline has some Baltimore or excuse me, Buffalo ties

902
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 7: based off the last season. But Mark Andrews is an

903
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 7: incredible athlete. He was a big time soccer player growing up,

904
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 7: and he actually had to make them move to football

905
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 7: because he was just too big and thus more physical

906
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 7: and would knock kids down and got frustrated with the

907
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 7: concept penalties being called. But I imagine if you put

908
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 7: a basketball in his hands, he made plays as well,

909
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 7: and Lamar will find himself somewhere on the court.

910
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 2: I have to imagine I'm gonna veer more towards the

911
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: actual football here because I'm curious as to the acclamation

912
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:01,479
Speaker 2: period for Malachi Stars, the first round choice. It looks

913
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: to be a blessing in disguise that they went safety

914
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: in the first round, especially with the injury to our

915
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 2: Darius Washington, who kind of stepped into the starting lineup

916
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 2: late last year after they made the switch from Marcus

917
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 2: Williams to kind of retool their defense that was given

918
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: up a lot of points late in games, and then

919
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 2: he has that horrible injury. So your darn lucky you

920
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: got Malachi. Now, is he just is there any doubt

921
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: that he's going to be Kyle Hamilton's partner back there?

922
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 7: Did appears, so Chris, he's penciled in, and I would

923
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 7: say it's penn Is right nearby to be the starter

924
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 7: next Skyle Hamilton. And part of that, yes, due to

925
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 7: the art areas Washington injury, But from everything you hear

926
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 7: and see in terms of the initial onboarding process for Malachi,

927
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 7: it was as if he was born to be a

928
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 7: Raven and what he did, as you can see at

929
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 7: Georgia from a playmaking standpoint, but also leadership standpoint. I mean,

930
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 7: this is a guy who who kind of ran that program,

931
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 7: or at least that side of the ball, and that's

932
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 7: a team that's littered with pros and we'll get to

933
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 7: see the true initial test, if you will, in any

934
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 7: camp this week. The Ravens getting theirs going tomorrow and

935
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 7: that'll be step one of what is a long process,

936
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 7: because I mean, you think about it, even Kyle Hamilton

937
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 7: coming in there were some growing pains. I remember covering

938
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 7: their preseason games early because he would flash with big plays.

939
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 7: But then when you're going up against NFL, not just

940
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 7: talent and ability, but the schemes and the way that

941
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 7: they can disguise things that really challenges players in the

942
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 7: back end. So I think he will be the starter

943
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 7: for the Ravens in Week one when they play the Bills,

944
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 7: and he'll be a guy that Josh Allen and that

945
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 7: crew will have their eye on. But it might be

946
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 7: an area where they try and take advantage of a

947
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 7: rookie in a big spot, on a big stage on

948
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 7: Sunday Night in Week one.

949
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: Is there any other draft picks or you know, new

950
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 1: signings for the Ravens that maybe have some pressure on

951
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: the team really needs these guys to come through. Is

952
00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: there any of that because they don't have too many

953
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: holes on their roster anyway.

954
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 7: No, it's a great question, good point. I was going

955
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 7: through it knowing we were going to get into this,

956
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 7: and they like Buffalo in a lot of ways. In

957
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 7: Kansas City, these top teams that they're not they're tweaking.

958
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,360
Speaker 7: There's not a lot of holes. They didn't lose a

959
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 7: lot in free agency was mostly depth players. They lost

960
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 7: one's starter on the offensive line and Patrick McCarry, so

961
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 7: that's a spot. I mean, on paper, it's it's Vorhee's

962
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 7: and Ben Cleveland are the two established players that will

963
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 7: compete for that left guard position. Third rounder, I think

964
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 7: Emery Jones he might be in the mix there, but

965
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 7: I imagine that would be more down the road. I

966
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 7: don't see him as a as a week one starter

967
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 7: on the offensive line protecting Lamar Jackson with those guys

968
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 7: in front of them. The pass rusher Green out of Marshall,

969
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 7: I think will be in the mix. They have both

970
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 7: ends and Kyle van Noy outside linebacker, pass rushers and

971
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 7: a dafe O Way. They kind of they've got those

972
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 7: spots cemented, but in terms of rotational pieces, Green could

973
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 7: be in the there alongside Tavius Robinson and David Ajabo.

974
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 7: So it's really its depth through the draft that they're

975
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 7: hoping can be impact players outside of Malachi Starks as

976
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 7: a starter. And then also that corner position not so

977
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 7: much with rookies, but you've got Marlon Humphrey and then

978
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 7: Nate Wiggins who entering year two. If they like Marlon

979
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 7: still in the nickel. They got to figure out who's

980
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 7: going to be that's that third corner. And that's why JayR.

981
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 7: Alexander's name has been bantied about a lot around here

982
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 7: as a guy that maybe they'd go after.

983
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 2: You mentioned away and he's coming off a ten SAX season,

984
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: but we've seen in write ups that he's added some

985
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: lean muscle mass to his frame, And I don't know.

986
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 2: It was kind of a curious development, only because after

987
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 2: a ten SAX season, from the outside looking in, it's like, oh, Okay,

988
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 2: his game has finally reached critical mass. Here he is,

989
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 2: He's everything they expected him to be. Why is he

990
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: changing his body composition? Does he really think it's going

991
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 2: to make that much more of a difference coming off

992
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: a double digit SAX season. Have you been able to

993
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: uncover the reasoning behind that approach if that is in

994
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: fact the case.

995
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 7: No, it's interesting, and I think we know this now

996
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 7: covering and steam playing at that level. These athletes they're

997
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 7: always looking for, not necessarily the massive game. Obviously they'd

998
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 7: love to have it, but it's always can I get

999
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 7: that extra two percent five percent? I don't know specifically

1000
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 7: what went into the possible change in body composition. I

1001
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 7: think sometimes, and it goes back to our initial sort

1002
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 7: of conversation about what do we talk about in mid June.

1003
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 7: I think sometimes body weight, that percentage, things like that.

1004
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 7: They become headlines, They become things that we latch onto

1005
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 7: because it's the off season. We need things to talk about.

1006
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 7: I have not heard that it's anything dramatic as if

1007
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 7: there's been a massive change in the way he's going

1008
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 7: to step on the field. If anything, it's probably how

1009
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 7: do I get more explosive in this league and get

1010
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 7: out the pass preasures for a guy who, as you

1011
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 7: mentioned the ten sacks, was kind of on his way there.

1012
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 7: So that's how I view it's is this maybe the

1013
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 7: thing that gives me that extra two to five percent?

1014
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we know that Rashad Bateman just signed a contract extension.

1015
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: A wide receiver. He's under contract. He was actually like

1016
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: the third leading receiver on their team, but they got

1017
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: to keep him around. What about those guys around Lamar Jackson,

1018
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: the skill guys. Obviously, Derrick Henry's coming back after three

1019
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: hundred plus carry season at his age. I mean, guys

1020
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: just phenomenal. Are they just kind of trying to run

1021
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 1: it back with the skill guys or are they looking

1022
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: for Bateman to be a bigger partner. They just want

1023
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: to make sure they've got their room the way Lamar

1024
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: wants it.

1025
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 7: I think it's the ladder there, Steve and the thing

1026
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 7: that I'm starting. And you guys have experienced this with Josh.

1027
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 7: Even though there's been some rotating pieces in terms of

1028
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 7: play caller, this is year three with Lamar and Todd

1029
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 7: Munkin lashed at the hip, and I think they now

1030
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 7: know exactly what they do want for this offense in

1031
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 7: terms of skill positions and the pieces around Lamar, and

1032
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 7: I think Rashat Bateman is one of those. It's rare,

1033
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 7: but it speaks to the way Baltimore operates and they

1034
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 7: don't give up on draft picks easy, and Bateman was

1035
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 7: a first round pick. I know that Harball loved him

1036
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 7: coming out. Obviously Eric ta Costa did as well, and

1037
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 7: just injuries really did stay in the way of development

1038
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 7: because he couldn't practice that much. So whenever he'd be

1039
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 7: in a game, he would flash and make plays and

1040
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 7: credit Baitman too. He didn't get obviously there was frustration,

1041
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 7: but he didn't fall victim to the I'm not getting

1042
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 7: the massive first or excuse me second contract off the

1043
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 7: rookie deal because it was sort of a short term

1044
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 7: extension that paid him great money for most people, but

1045
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 7: not big time wide receiver money. But he just stayed

1046
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 7: the corpse. He stayed in Baltimore. He realized this is

1047
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 7: a place that they value me. I can develop here.

1048
00:58:58,840 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: Now.

1049
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 7: I do think Boys to be a huge part of

1050
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 7: this offense, along with DeAndre Hopkins, who everybody reports that's

1051
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 7: there on a day to day basis, still has a lot,

1052
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 7: has looked good in the OTA's is whatever that means.

1053
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 7: But I think he's the kind of player that can

1054
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 7: thrive in a Lamar Jackson style offense because Lamar Jackson

1055
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 7: likes guys with big catch radius and there's nobody better

1056
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 7: than that than Hot right.

1057
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 2: Maybe the biggest change to the roster, at least one

1058
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: that hasn't changed in a while, is that the kicker

1059
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 2: spot gone is Tucker do in part to some of

1060
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: the off the field stuff that took place last year,

1061
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: which was super unfortunate, and there will be I guess

1062
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: last we heard there was going to be an NFL investigation,

1063
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: but he's not on a roster right now. So what

1064
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 2: comes of that, we'll see. But Tyler Loop the sixth

1065
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: round pick, it seems like the early returns have been positive.

1066
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 2: This is a kid who was an eighty four percent

1067
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: kicker in college. Does he look like he's got the

1068
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: medal and wherewithal to kind of just step right in and.

1069
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: Do the uh?

1070
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 7: I mean, they're big shoes to phill obviously for what

1071
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 7: Tucker was able to do over the course of his

1072
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 7: time in Baltimore. I don't I always say this, and

1073
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 7: I think sometimes we get caught in these spots where

1074
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 7: you've got to talk about something that you really know

1075
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 7: nothing about. I couldn't evaluate a kicker if my life

1076
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Speaker 7: depended on it.

1077
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Speaker 4: Did it go in?

1078
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 7: Then yeah, they're probably pretty good. There's so much that's

1079
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 7: happening in between the ears obviously as well. That said,

1080
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 7: I now know that the way that Baltimore evaluates special

1081
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 7: teams in general because of John Harbaugh's background in that

1082
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 7: area of the game. But also they have a they

1083
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 7: have a kicking like staff. Randy Brown has been there

1084
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 7: for a while. He goes back with Harball to the

1085
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 7: Philly days. He is like the kicking coach. I mean

1086
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 7: he he was he shoulder to shoulder, hit to hip

1087
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 7: with Tucker when he was there, when Sam Cook when

1088
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 7: he was the punter, and now with the new operation

1089
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 7: that they have there. So and then they've got plenty

1090
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 7: of others that are that are constant scouring the collegiate ranks,

1091
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 7: probably looking at guys. They've had kickers, guys that have

1092
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 7: come in in training camp to just save Tucker's leg

1093
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 7: that have gone on to be impactful players get contracts

1094
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 7: other places just because of their ability to identify not

1095
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 7: just quality kickers, but kickers that can translate to the

1096
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 7: NFL level. So if they saw something moved that would

1097
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 7: allow them to take him in the sixth round. I

1098
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 7: trust that he has all the capabilities to be a

1099
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 7: consistent player, But as we know, it's about doing it

1100
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 7: in those high pressure moments, and we won't really know

1101
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 7: that until we get going here in a couple months.

1102
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 2: Last one for you, Evan, and again, regretfully, you won't

1103
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: be a part of this because it's Sunday Night Football

1104
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: in Week one when the Ravens come here. But we've

1105
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: already seen some comments trickle out here and there about

1106
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: revenge mode in light of how their season ended last year.

1107
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: Up here in Orchard Park, and if they don't think

1108
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 2: about it during the week, they will certainly be thinking

1109
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 2: about it once they get in the building. Here what

1110
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 2: level of I mean, we know what the Ravens bring

1111
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: to games every week, we know what the Bills bring

1112
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 2: to games every week. They're kind of reflections of their coaches,

1113
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 2: you know, hard knows guys that are going to give

1114
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: an honest day's effort, and you're not going to wonder

1115
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 2: what you're getting from either of these teams on a

1116
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: game day. But there it's hard not to think there's

1117
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: extra incentive here. So what kind of Baltimore Ravens team

1118
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 2: are you expecting to come screaming out of the tunnel

1119
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Speaker 2: on Sunday night? Week one?

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Speaker 7: Screaming is a great, great term, Chris. I think that

1121
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 7: embodies what they want to do out of the gate.

1122
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 7: And the Ravens under John Harball have traditionally been a

1123
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Speaker 7: fast starting team when it comes to the regular season,

1124
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Speaker 7: and I think they understand they especially now based off

1125
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 7: of the last few years when Lamar's kind of hitting

1126
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 7: this MVP mode where they're not going to overvalue a

1127
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 7: result in Week one, but they are going to recognize

1128
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 7: what it could mean in terms of building a foundation

1129
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 7: for what they want to do this season, similar to

1130
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 7: the way Buffalo, I imagine is approaching this. This is

1131
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 7: a great litmus test of where do we stand as

1132
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 7: we get going, coming off of everything that you put

1133
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 7: into training camp, whatever it is you do in the preseason.

1134
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 7: This is the time to say, Okay, where do we

1135
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 7: sit now, and then where do we need to be October,

1136
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 7: November and into December. And to me, it feels a

1137
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 7: lot like one of those scenarios that it'll have all

1138
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 7: the anks, the intensity, excitement of a week one Sunday

1139
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 7: night game. It's the most entertaining matchup I could think of,

1140
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 7: and not just because of my connection of covering the

1141
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 7: Ravens closely throughout the preseason, but also having done so

1142
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 7: many Bills games and talking to you guys over the years,

1143
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 7: like this is the game for me. But to me,

1144
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 7: it feels like, hey, this is round one, and then

1145
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 7: they'll probably see each other at some point down the

1146
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 7: road again similar to how they did a year ago.

1147
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 7: So it's almost similar to what we're doing here. Yeah,

1148
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 7: the Primer, we'll have the main event in August for them,

1149
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 7: the Primers. Week one and the main events sometime in January.

1150
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 1: Real quick for I letting you go that. You know,

1151
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: there's always a little bit of hubbub about the schedule

1152
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: when they come out, and I don't know that we

1153
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: heard too much about the Ravens of Bills. Actually, outside

1154
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: of the four games, they've got most of those at

1155
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: home between you know, the Ravens, the Bengals, the Chiefs,

1156
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 1: and the Eagles all in Buffalo. What about the early

1157
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: month and a half that the Ravens have coming out

1158
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: of the gate, They've got Buffalo, Detroit, Kansas City, the Texans,

1159
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,920
Speaker 1: and the Rams before they hit the bye week in

1160
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: Week seven, and also sprinkle in the Cleveland Browns there

1161
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: as well. But those are five out of those first

1162
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: six games that are playoff type teams, teams that are

1163
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: you know, that have some ambition, and the Ravens got

1164
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: to play all of them in the first six weeks

1165
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 1: of the season.

1166
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a hillacious start. And I can't remember if

1167
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 7: it was. I don't think it was last year. It

1168
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 7: may have been the last time they had to go

1169
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 7: to London or play overseas. The Ravens, they look, every

1170
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 7: coach does this, every team does this. They find ways

1171
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 7: to build sort of the US against the world mentality.

1172
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 7: So I have to imagine that as John Harbaugh his

1173
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 7: staff is basically doing what you've done right now and

1174
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 7: put this schedule up on whether it's starting tomorrow at

1175
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 7: mini camp or over the course of training camp, and

1176
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 7: identifying like, hey, this is what the league thinks of

1177
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 7: us in terms of what they want to give us

1178
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 7: as a road out of the gate, and whatever slight

1179
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 7: they might want to build out of it in fuel

1180
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 7: they can find from it, they will find. So yes

1181
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 7: on paper, which we know at this point is all

1182
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 7: it is, is paper that looks like as tough as

1183
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 7: start to a season as there is in the league,

1184
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 7: and it's going to be an entertaining one. And I

1185
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 7: do think the Ravens are built to navigate it because

1186
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 7: not just most importantly what their roster makeup is and

1187
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 7: then what their coaching staff can deliver, but they seem

1188
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 7: to thrive when they feel like, man, we have this

1189
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,439
Speaker 7: herculean road we've got to get through. Their biggest issue

1190
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 7: in recent years have been the letdowns or the moments

1191
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 7: where on paper it would appear, oh they're clean, they're good,

1192
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 7: They'll get through this. And then they got to deal

1193
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 7: with when they got down the road. Sometimes that's where

1194
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,919
Speaker 7: they hit a wall.

1195
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 2: Evan, thanks for the time. Is always enjoy whatever downtime

1196
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: you've got left, and we'll see out of training camp

1197
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: man have a good summer.

1198
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't wait for it.

1199
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: That's NFL on CBS sideline reporter Evan Washburn and joining

1200
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 2: us giving us kind of the lowdown on the offseason

1201
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 2: it has been for the Ravens and they have actually

1202
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 2: mini camp this week. As he pointed out, a lot

1203
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: of teams had their mini camp last week. Ravens start

1204
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: tomorrow for their three day mini camp, so that'll be interesting,

1205
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: one less week for them before training camp starts.

1206
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, if they see it coming, they play around.

1207
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 2: It, playing around it. It's yeah, that is going to

1208
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 2: be for an opener.

1209
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: It's a great opener.

1210
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: It's a playoff game. I'll say this though too, like

1211
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 2: it's gonna feel like one.

1212
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: For this Bills team. You get that a lot because

1213
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: of the stature of the court, you know, the MVP

1214
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: and all that, and Josh has been there for a

1215
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 1: long time and the Bills have been a contender for

1216
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, the last six years.

1217
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 2: But you're bringing a team in of the same call

1218
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: of it.

1219
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: But this is a little bit like the Jets opening

1220
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: night Monday Night game two years ago. You know where

1221
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: you get. The whole thing is piled on. It's like

1222
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 1: going out to Los Angeles for the Rams game after

1223
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: they were in the Super and this is like, wow,

1224
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 1: let's go and all the you know what I'm saying.

1225
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 2: The Bills have been through this, right, and this is

1226
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: the team you just vanquished from the playoffs last year.

1227
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: And that's the flip side of it. Yeah, you're not.

1228
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 1: It's not the Bills going out there and proving their worth.

1229
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: There's an edge.

1230
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 1: This is a revenge game. There's an edge to this one,

1231
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get whatever it is at that point.

1232
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 1: You know, who knows what's gonna happen in three months,

1233
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: but you're gonna get the best version of the most

1234
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: totally engaged version of the Baltimore Ravens in that game.

1235
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: It's to me, it's the most difficult game on the

1236
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: schedule of the entire season, no bar.

1237
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 2: None, because it's the opponent and it's also the first one.

1238
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: Yes, all of that goes in. This is the most

1239
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: difficult game the Bills will have of the entire season

1240
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 1: in the regular season, who knows what's going to happen.

1241
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: But I think the plus side of it is, Hey,

1242
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 1: you're all fresh and ready, open game, let's go. You're

1243
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: all healthy, you know, But I'm telling you it means

1244
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 1: something in the NFL to walk into that game. They

1245
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: do get it at home, that's a plus. We'll see now,

1246
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: maybe that's one of the topics we can have in

1247
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: the next couple weeks. How do you handle motivating the

1248
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: Bills team to handle Baltimore team that thumped them early

1249
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: in the season last year. Is that what you focus on?

1250
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. I think you just focus

1251
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 2: on your game and playing your best football and sustaining

1252
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 2: that level of play even when it drops off a

1253
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: hair and they have the momentum, because these two teams

1254
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: are too good for one team to have the momentum

1255
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: the entire game. But you're gonna vary back and forth,

1256
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 2: and you have to you have to withstand their surges,

1257
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 2: stay in the game, and then reassert yourself.

1258
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're gonna have a lot of players on

1259
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: this team that weren't weren't a part of that playoff game.

1260
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 1: In January. You gotta warn you gotta, you gotta throw

1261
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 1: it across there about Listen, you're gonna hear, you're gonna

1262
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 1: get it. This is gonna be a tough You gotta

1263
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: be ready for that. You gotta bear up. You got

1264
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: to prepare your club for an emotional start for your

1265
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 1: opponent coming in here.

1266
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 2: Prepare to set the tone. Yeah, and be the ones

1267
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: to do that. Don't let them do that.

1268
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've gotta you've got to make sure there's some

1269
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: extra emotional content for your club in the beginnings. Now

1270
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna be opening nine, you're gonna be you know,

1271
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: all that stuff's gonna be going on. Ten. Bill's Mafia

1272
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: is gonna be there in force, so the crowd's gonna

1273
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: be on your side, which is gonna help. But man,

1274
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm telling you, we'll see it'll be we'll see.

1275
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: Break time for us here. We're back to the phones.

1276
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: When we return, Doug and Syracuse is gonna lead us off.

1277
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: But open lines for you at eight oh three oh five,

1278
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five point fifty.

1279
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: Having a little fun today, Which Bill's players would you

1280
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 2: put on your starting five on a basketball court. In

1281
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: case you didn't see it, Keon dropped sixty at the

1282
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 2: Tomorrow Hamlin charity basketball game last weekend in Pittsburgh. Who's

1283
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 2: your starting five or you're four? To go with Keon?

1284
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,879
Speaker 2: More of your calls next here on one, Bill's Live, stay.

1285
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: With us.

1286
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: All right back here, I want to Bill Live, Chris Brown,

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01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and having a little fun today.

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01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,600
Speaker 2: Keane Coleman dropped sixty at a Demorrow Hamlin charity basketball

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01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: game last weekend in Pittsburgh. Who's you're starting five on

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01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 2: a basketball team? From the current Bills roster? Eight oh three,

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01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 2: oh five point fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two,

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01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 2: five fifty those are the numbers to join us. But

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Speaker 2: back to the phones we go, and to Doug in Syracuse,

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01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 2: who's been waiting patiently? What's up Doug?

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01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 8: Hey, guys, Thank Chris a Steve, thanks for taking the call. Sure, hey,

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01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 8: I would take Josh on any team I was playing like,

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01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 8: bought to anything, Chion definitely with all those points, and

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01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 8: then any of the giant lineman that could reach across

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 8: the court. And I just wanted to mention Steve. I

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01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 8: remember I grew up in Mayville, New York, so right

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01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 8: down the road from you guys, and I remember you

1302
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 8: coming to the school and playing the charity basketball games

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01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 8: and just how much our little town appreciated you guys

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01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 8: showing up to our little, small little town.

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: Well thanks. Yeah, it was fun, it was It was

1306
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: the thing about it wasn't and you can poo poo

1307
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,680
Speaker 1: this if you want, but it was interesting because we

1308
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: would get all kinds of mixtures of guys going on

1309
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,600
Speaker 1: those trips, and you know, you get you get a

1310
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 1: chance to get to know guy. You know, it was

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01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: a fun thing and you you drive down there together,

1312
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: you hang out, have a couple of pops together, you

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01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: get driven back together, and you spend time with guys

1314
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: you never get a chance to spend time with. It

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01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 1: was great. You know. It was a little bit of

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01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: a team building exercise for on our end of it,

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01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 1: as well as a chance to back then make a

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01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: couple of hundred bucks. You know, it was fun. It

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01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. You always got to meet

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01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 1: really good people at these venues as well. You play

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01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 1: a half of basketball, sign autographs at halftime, and play

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01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: another half of basketball, and it was fun, a lot

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01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: of fun.

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01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: So cool thanks for reminding us of that, Doug. You

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01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 2: were you get an alley oops, Steve, And don't.

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01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: You know I did slam dunk the basketball back in

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01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: the day. But yeah, that's it was fun.

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01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:06,839
Speaker 2: Uh. I got my starting five here. I was waffling

1329
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: a little bit on who my swingman was gonna be

1330
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 2: my three, but basically, I've got Spencer Brown at center.

1331
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 2: I've got Greg Russeau is my four, you know, my

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01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 2: big forward. Yeah, and then my two guard is Keon

1333
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 2: and my point guard is Joshua Palmer, who played in

1334
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the AAU leagues up in Canada, and

1335
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 2: he's playing against guys like RJ. Barrett and stuff coming up,

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01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: so I kind of like him as my primary ball handler.

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01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 2: And then I was down to josh as my swingman.

1338
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 2: Who I think I'll go with. I think I'll stick

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01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 2: with josh as my small forward. But then my my

1340
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 2: sixth man is t J. Sanders because everything I've been

1341
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: told is he was a really, really good basketball player

1342
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: in high school in South Carolina and it took his

1343
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 2: coaches to convince him to chart a path to pro

1344
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 2: football because he just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

1345
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: On my bench. Okay, Yeah, so that was t J.

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01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: Sanders my six man. I got Dawson Knox on the bench,

1347
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 2: Landon Jackson, Zach Davidson, the reserve tight end who goes

1348
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 2: six to seven, and tie Rel Shavers. I'm going with, yes,

1349
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 2: why not?

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01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: I like that. That's a good lineup. I might mimic

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01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: that because I don't know anything about basketball, but yeah,

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01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: obviously Spencer groot keon Josh Palmer's a good addition. I

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01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: don't know about land and Jackson. Well, I haven't heard

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 1: anything about that. TJ. Anybody who's had hoops background that

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01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 1: at that level that's been complimented is on. Like t J. Sanders,

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01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: you're in, you're on, right, Josh is on. Josh's got

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01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 1: good he's got good size and stuff.

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01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, I said he's he can dunk, So that

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01:14:58,479 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 2: doesn't surprise men.

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01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: Listen, six five and you can't dunk? What are you doing?

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01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.

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01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking to me and you down here.

1363
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 2: Right down here where we get the weather reports.

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01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: Exactly right, we get rained on the last. So yeah,

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01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 1: that's uh. And there's probably a couple of guys we

1366
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,879
Speaker 1: don't know about. Yeah, you know, guys, like Christian Benford,

1367
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 1: all the you know, all the athletes in the back

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01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: end for all I know, who knows, maybe some of

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01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 1: them might have some pretty good handles, you know, so

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01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: we'll see or could shoot the lights out. I mean, well,

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01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. None of these guys are

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: in town, so we usually are. Who knows, right, Listen,

1373
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: if they were here, that we would get inundated with

1374
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 1: comments from the players. If they were us, they would

1375
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: be telling us who are five should be? So it's

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01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 1: good that which might be a worthwhile endeavor exercise. We've

1377
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 1: talked to you know what I'm saying. We're to talk

1378
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: to Kevin Krgis and James Roval about this. Get those

1379
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,799
Speaker 1: guys to ask the questions.

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01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 2: Uh, let's crack up. In the tweet sheet brought to

1381
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 2: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

1382
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. Where Google luck starting five is

1383
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 2: point guard Shakir shooting guard, Laviska Channault, shooting forward, Keon Coleman,

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01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: power forward Greg Russoe, center Spencer Browns. He's got some

1385
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,960
Speaker 2: of the same guys I do. He's got three of

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01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 2: my starting five. I don't hate that chanlt is put together.

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01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 2: He's only about six to one. Shakira is a tiny

1388
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 2: point guard, but he's like five ten five eleven. Yeah,

1389
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 2: but yeah, he's got some shake to him, so I

1390
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 2: think he could kind of create off the dribble a

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01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 2: little bit. I don't I don't dislike that starting five.

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01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 1: No, it's good.

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01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: Matthew on the tweet sheet, says Keon Coleman, Josh Allen,

1394
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 2: Spencer Brown, Greg Russou, Elijah Moore, question Mark, Shakir, question Mark, Hairston,

1395
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 2: quest Mark, Curtis Samuel, question Mark. So he's having trouble

1396
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 2: filling out his fifth Yeah. I think people run into

1397
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 2: the height concern, Yeah, because you got sub six foot

1398
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 2: guys and they're like, yeah, there's not many of them

1399
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 2: in the NBA anymore. Steve goes with Keon Coleman, TJ. Sanders,

1400
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: aj Epanessa, Joshua Palmer, and Josh Allen aj Epanessa making

1401
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 2: an appearance six'. Four it's got some, length you, know

1402
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 2: get you some rebounds bang underneath the. Basket you. Know

1403
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: it's not a bad, group, Right. Uh darryl on the tweets,

1404
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 2: sheet Says Josh, Allen Spencer, Brown Keyon. Coleman they all

1405
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 2: have basketball backgrounds going back to college end or high.

1406
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 2: School Greg rousseau because he played three different football. Positions,

1407
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 2: yeah he's a former, receiver so you know he's got,

1408
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 2: hands shows the, athletics And Christian. Benford he looks like a, Shooter.

1409
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 1: Lol looks like a. Shooter. Okay ALL i know is.

1410
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 2: From the footage we, Saw keon is unquestionably a. Shooter

1411
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 2: he was making threes look.

1412
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: Easy oh, yeah he's got a great shooting. Form he

1413
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 1: looks like a, hooper you know WHAT i. Mean, yes,

1414
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:21,759
Speaker 1: Yeah this next one from Will is caught my. Attention

1415
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: you got to read. It.

1416
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 2: Okay, keon Josh, i Bet kencaid can, Ball Cole bishop

1417
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 2: looks like a, baller And Joe. Brady Joe brady are

1418
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: my starting. FIVE i THINK i would Pick Ronald curry

1419
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 2: Before Joe. Brady no offense to Coach, brady But Ronald

1420
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,560
Speaker 2: curry was like mister football and mister basketball in the

1421
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,559
Speaker 2: state Of virginia at the same. Time AND i think

1422
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 2: he Was Gatorade player of The year for football and

1423
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 2: then he went To North carolina and played football, only

1424
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: although there were conversations about him playing basketball.

1425
01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: Too joe's tall enough, THOUGH i, MEAN i get.

1426
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 2: It but, yeah, Yeah andrew on the tweets, sheet Says Joshua,

1427
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 2: Palmer Keon, Coleman Khalil, Shakir Josh, allen And Mitchell. Trubiski

1428
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:14,560
Speaker 2: they all have a basketball, background so they know the

1429
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 2: sport and how to play. IT i was unaware of

1430
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 2: the basketball exploits have Won mitchie.

1431
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: BISCUITS i didn't know, That.

1432
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 2: Nych i'm gonna have to look that. Up, yeah basketball.

1433
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 2: Prowess let's let's do a little search here and see

1434
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: what comes up for Mister. Trubisky while primarily known for

1435
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 2: HIS nfl career as a, Quarterback Mitchell trubisky also showcased

1436
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 2: impressive basketball skills in high school played For mentor In,

1437
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 2: ohio and here is a breakdown of his basketball. Prowess nine,

1438
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 2: points seven and a half rebounds a game is senior

1439
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 2: season a fish and. Shooter fifty eight percent field goal,

1440
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 2: percentage thirty nine percent from three point. Range that's pretty.

1441
01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 2: Good twenty three and three, record got to the regional semi. Finals, wow,

1442
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 2: okay so they, Okay i'll give it to. You, wait

1443
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 2: wait to dig a little. Bit there you go On

1444
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 2: Mitchell trubisky's basketball. Exploits that is that's a that's a deep.

1445
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 2: Dive that is a deep. Dive, wow there you, Go

1446
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 2: well done, there Alex Or. Andrew, sorry.

1447
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: He's Only. Mitch mitch is only six to two, though.

1448
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 2: Right so. Limited, POSITIONALLY i don't think there's any question

1449
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 2: about what his.

1450
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: HANDLES i don't know how he handles the, ball but, yeah.

1451
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 2: Can shoot it from three, Though i'll tell you, what

1452
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 2: thirty nine. Percent at least he's on the. Roster, yes

1453
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 2: he is coming off the bench for a little instant.

1454
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 2: Offense man Like vinnie and The Microwave johnson back in

1455
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 2: The Pistons Bad boys. Days alex on the, tweet she, Says,

1456
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: oh he's Got he's got these. Guys, positionally, here there

1457
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 2: we go point Guard James, cook shooting Guard Keon, coleman

1458
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 2: small Forward Tyrrel, shavers power Forward Zach, davidson Center Spencer.

1459
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 2: Brown so good length in the front court, There. James

1460
01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: i'd be a little, concerned you, know he's he's five to.

1461
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,639
Speaker 2: Ten could be a defensive.

1462
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: Liability he could be a defensive. Liability we'll see.

1463
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 2: Guys to shoot right over. Him, yeah because there aren't

1464
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 2: that many five ten point guards in the league.

1465
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: Nowadays.

1466
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 2: Yep and then finally believer says point Guard shakir shooting Guard.

1467
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 2: Coleman uh, oh he's got a three guard. Lineup off

1468
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 2: Guard Joshua, palmer forward Josh, Allen, Senter Spencer. Brown so

1469
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: he's going with a really small lineup there as far as.

1470
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: He, GOES.

1471
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 2: I kind of. Liked i'd like these lineups though they're pretty.

1472
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 2: Solid it's.

1473
01:21:53,520 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: FUN i, mean, yeah it would Be. YES i would

1474
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: show up and watch some of these, games you, know

1475
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 1: see how they do, it particularly if they were taking a.

1476
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: Seriously even the game that we've been talking about, today

1477
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: the one that was In pittsburgh For demorrow Hamle on

1478
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 1: his foundation and Where keon hung sixty points. Up you,

1479
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: know there's just no defense or. Whatever if it was

1480
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: an actual game where guys were trying to play to

1481
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 1: win for whatever, money marbles or, chalk it would be

1482
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 1: fun to. WATCH i think it would be really fun to.

1483
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 2: Watch, yeah did you give us a starting? Five did

1484
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 2: you give us your starting?

1485
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 1: Five my starting five mirrored? Yours, yes you, KNOW i

1486
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: THINK i PUT i would have Put shavers in for

1487
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 1: one of your, guys AND i can't remember which one it,

1488
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:44,679
Speaker 1: was or Maybe Joshua palmer you put.

1489
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah he. HAD i Had Joshua palmer as my point,

1490
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 2: guard my shooting.

1491
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: Guard palmer would be the GUY i put in With

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01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,520
Speaker 1: Keon Spencers Russo.

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01:22:56,040 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 2: Josh J, No josh, Yeah TJ's my six.

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01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: Man so, yes, YEAH I.

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01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,560
Speaker 2: I mean there's other guys you could, pull like some

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01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 2: of the old. LINEMEN i, Mean Chase lunt is six.

1497
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 2: Seven Even Travis, clayton the international right, player he's six,

1498
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 2: seven three hundred.

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01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 1: Pounds you could put Some you could put a six

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01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: seven six' eight lineup across the board on the on

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01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 1: the YOU could i, don't know they ain't may could,

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01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: handle it, you know handle, the ball, but yeah you

1503
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: should throw it up.

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01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 5: To him.

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01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 2: Let's go, you, Know uh i'm picturing on a lot of.

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01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: Alley oops you know you don't have, to dribble you

1507
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 2: don't have to post up and Do A kevin. McHale

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01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 2: move jump towards the RIM and i will lob it.

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01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: To you you take the ball out above, Your head

1510
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:48,720
Speaker 1: i'll catch it above, my head throw it to the

1511
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 1: other guy head And and i'll throw. It, up yeah

1512
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 1: it maybe.

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01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 2: Be oversimplification and you want to talk about, boxing out

1514
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 2: they'd be able to. Do That landon jackson's another guy that,

1515
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 2: you know six.

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01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: SIX law i don't, KNOW though i don't know if

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01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: his athletics is too much of a. FOOTBALL player i

1518
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: think he's, too specialized at least thinking. Of me he

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01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: he'll probably.

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01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: Dispute that BUT and I think knox can hoop. A little,

1521
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 2: you know he's six. Or five he looks like. He

1522
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:24,559
Speaker 2: can you know all those, Guys, man, YEAH yeah i gotta.

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01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,720
Speaker 1: Look up i'll, Say, this well you grow Up in

1524
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: some of these. Guys didn't but if you grow up

1525
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: in a, small town you play every high school sport.

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01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: There is as long as, you don't you can play, you,

1527
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 1: know football basketball and whatever you have in, the spring lacrosse.

1528
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 1: Or whatever these guys play all of those sports all,

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01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 1: the time and they play him.

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01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 2: Really Well so kincaid WON an aau title his. Senior, Year.

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01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: Seriously yeah see that's not that's.

1532
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 2: Not nothing eleven and a half points, a game seven

1533
01:24:54,960 --> 01:25:03,560
Speaker 2: and a half rebounds. A, game yeah so did, some

1534
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 2: stuff did.

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01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: Some stuff that's.

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01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 2: Pretty cool it is neat to kind of dig into

1537
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 2: these guys backgrounds and see who was pretty accomplished at some.

1538
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 2: Other stuff we have to take a, break here but we.

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01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 2: Come back we are delighted to let you know that

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01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 2: there is some big news in another arena of competition

1541
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,679
Speaker 2: that is common this time of year in. The summer

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01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 2: we will explain when we return Here On One, bill's

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01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:49,400
Speaker 2: live Presented By. Colida Health It's Buffalo. Bills radio, all

1544
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,839
Speaker 2: right back here On One, bill's live and the biggest

1545
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: news outside of football today involves. Competitive eating after a one,

1546
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 2: year hiatus Sixteen Time Nathan's Hot Dog eating Contest Champion

1547
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 2: joey chestnut is back For the july fourth Competition At.

1548
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 2: Coney island as you may, not know, last year he

1549
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 2: was banned from the competition because he signed a deal

1550
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 2: with what was it the, Impossible Company. Impossible foods he

1551
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:36,560
Speaker 2: signed a partnership Deal With, impossible foods which was prohibited

1552
01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 2: based on his agreement With the, Nathan's people so he

1553
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 2: forfeited his mustard Belt To, Patrick, bertilletti yes well there,

1554
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 2: you go and instead he so he Skips the July

1555
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 2: Fourth Hot dog eating competition last year and then goes

1556
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 2: out and breaks his own world record In that netflix

1557
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 2: Special Called. Unfinished beef On The, labor day he Went,

1558
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 2: against kobayashi who's been his most. Ardent competition so listen.

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01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 2: To this Kobayashi Last labor Day Against. Joey chestnut he eats.

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01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:18,559
Speaker 2: Sixty Seven joey chestnut chokes down eighty three in. Ten

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01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 2: minutes and here's. The catch For The unfinished, beef contest

1562
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: which was a hot dog, eating contest the rules were

1563
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 2: the competitors were not allowed to dunk or pour water

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01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: on any of their hot dogs or separate the beef

1565
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:39,840
Speaker 2: francs from. Their, buns okay Wherein the nathan's contest you can,

1566
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 2: dunk buns you can dunk dogs.

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01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: Right the dunkeman water to make the, bread smaller and

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01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: you have to use.

1569
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: Less saliva to try to break down. The food you

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01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 2: got water helping, you there because if you ever try

1571
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: to eat a hot dog bun without, any liquid best

1572
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 2: of luck. To you you're dry as the sahara in about.

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01:27:55,800 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 2: Two buns so eighty three hot dogs with no. Water

1574
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 2: assistance he's. Getting. Better uh here's the scary, thing though

1575
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 2: because you always worry about like the horrible you know

1576
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 2: the detrimental effects of eating Like this kobayashi has since

1577
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 2: retired because he said he can no longer, feel hunger

1578
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 2: can't feel it when, he's Hungry doesn't it is no

1579
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,560
Speaker 2: longer a recognized response in. His, body wow isn't that

1580
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: freaky a?

1581
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: Little bit.

1582
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 2: Forget about the sul fights and everything Else.

1583
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,440
Speaker 1: A, burger, COMMERCIAL.

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01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:41,639
Speaker 2: Right, i mean just the cumulative effect of eighty three

1585
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 2: hot dogs in your in, your, Ballet right if not,

1586
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 2: right away a couple of days later. For Sure so kobayashi,

1587
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 2: Choosing retirement.

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01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 1: Well there.

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01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: YOU go i wonder do you think he can beat

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01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 2: eighty three because now he can dunk the and the

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01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:01,960
Speaker 2: dogs In the nathan competition and.

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01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:07,600
Speaker 1: We'll see there's gotta be you gotta get ready, for,

1593
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 1: THAT right i, Mean.

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01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: This you can't eat for like, three, days. Right right

1595
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 2: you gotta go on a water, only fast right, like, yeah,

1596
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 2: yeah yeah you're not eating any food because you gotta

1597
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 2: have your stomach as empty.

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01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 1: As possible but it's also got to be, like, big

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01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: right so you gotta like stretch, it out stretch. It

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01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: out it's gotta be. A capacity the capacity is, the.

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01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 2: Thing, right yeah he's got. A plan he definitely has,

1602
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 2: a plan because nobody can touch.

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01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: THIS guy i.

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01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 2: DON'T know i just don't want him. To COLLAPSE that's, I.

1605
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 2: Mean steve eight point three hot dogs a minute is what.

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01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 2: HE'S eating i can't. DO it i CAN'T even i

1607
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 2: can't eat eight hot dogs in a, sitting right forget

1608
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 2: about in a minute.

1609
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: With, buns well Fourth of july is. Coming up he

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01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 1: is a freak of nature And.

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01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 2: That's america everybody see it tomorrow at what