1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: This is the BlueBag Day, baq At podcast. Good morning, 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, the fifth of November. I'm Caroline Hepcat in London. 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: And I'm Stephen Caroline Brussels. Coming up today. Zoran mmdanni 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: wins the election to become the next mayor of New 6 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: York City as Democrats chuck up big wins across the 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: United States. 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Stocks drop as investors wonder if long running concerns over 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: lofty tech valuations have now become a market reality. 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: Plus why Astra Zeneca's CEO is willing to compromise when 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: it's for Donald Trump. 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Zora Mumdanny has been elected as mayor of New York 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: City as Democrats secured decisive wins in votes across the 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: United States. Ma'm danny won just over fifty percent of 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: the vote, while former Governor Andrew Cuomo garnered forty two 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: percent and Republican Curtis Leewa got seven percent. With eighty 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: eight percent of that's counted. During his victory speech, mmdanny 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: pitched his win as a moment of change for the country, 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: as he sought to single out what he called the 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: billionaire class. 22 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: We refuse to let them dictate the rules of the 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: game anymore. They can play by the same rules as 24 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: the rest of us. Together, we will usher in a 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 3: generation of change. And if we embrace this brave new course, 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: rather than fleeing from it, we can respond to oligarchy 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: and authoritarianism, which the strength it fears, not the appeasement 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 3: it graves. 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: Zorn Mmdanni will be New York's first Muslim mayor and 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 1: first person of South Asian descent to lead the city 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: in its four hundred year history. His win capped off 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: a night of sweeping victories for the Democratic Party as 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: it seeks to turn the page on the presidential election 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: defeat to Trump. Mikey Cheryl in New Jersey and Abigail 35 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: Spanberg in Virginia both won their races for governor, and 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: in California, voters approved a ballot initiative that will redraw 37 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: the state's congressional district map to give Democrats the opportunity 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: to win a handful of additional seats. 39 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: Now, global stocks have fallen on concerns that lofty valuations 40 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: are overstretched. With megacap tech firms leading losses, the selling 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: pressure white five hundred billion dollars off the Philadelphia Semiconductor Index, 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: and a Bloomberg gage tracking Asian chip stocks. Now, the 43 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: growing slump is leading investors to question where the long 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: running concerns will finally bring an end to the bull 45 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 2: run that started in April. Here is Ekaterina Bigos from 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: AXA Investment Managers. 47 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 4: Now, what is the catalyst for some of the recovery 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: and quicker recovery? Clearly market watching, first evaluations, some indications 49 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 4: of potential revenue crystallization on some investment but importantly for us, 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 4: will looking at the FED. So FED has been part 51 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 4: of the narrative of why we see that correction. To 52 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 4: some degrees, people are concerned as will the Fed pad 53 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 4: in December, And of course at the meeting that they've 54 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: had last week, you know they put it into balance. 55 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 4: It wasn't kind of a clear guidance. Are they're actually 56 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: going to do it? 57 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 2: Ekearina big Speaking thereafter, Wall Street chiefs, including Goldman SACHXEO 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: David Solomon warns that a significant market pullback is now 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: increasingly likely. 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: The US government shutdown is now and it's thirty sixth day, 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: making it the longest in history. As the entrench standoff 62 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: between Republicans and Democrats over healthcare and spending priorities continues, 63 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: the economic pain is deepening. The Congressional Budget Office estimates 64 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: the shutdown will cut fourth quarter growth by as much 65 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: as two percentage points if it continues for eight weeks, 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: followed by a short term rebound early next year. Even then, 67 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: the US economy would lose billions in outputs. 68 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: Here in the UK, the Office for Budget Responsibility is 69 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: poised to lower its estimates for UK productivity by zero 70 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: point three percentage points. It means a hit of as 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: much as twenty billion pounds for the Chancellor Rachel Reeves 72 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: ahead of this month's budget. Meanwhile, leading think tank, the 73 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 2: National Institute of Economic and Social Research, has warned that 74 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: the Chancellor needs to run primary budget surpluses to get 75 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: a grip of the country's quote unsustainable debt trajectory in 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: their view. Meanwhile, the Chancellor's meeting top insurance CEOs today 77 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: in a bid to try to increase investment into the UK. 78 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: The Chief Secretary to the Treasury, James Murray, says the 79 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: government's economic strategy is working. 80 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 5: We had the fastest growing economy in the G seven 81 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: in the first half of this year, with for one 82 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 5: hundreds of billions of pounds of investment, five interest rate cuts. 83 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 5: But we're really clear that there's a lot more to 84 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 5: do and that we've got some big challenges we're facing. 85 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 5: And those big challenges that we're facing now are what 86 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 5: the Chancellor is going to take head on going into 87 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 5: the budget. 88 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: This year, James Murray speaking. Their attendees will include representatives 89 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: from Lloyd's of London, Hiss Cox and Swiss Ree. According 90 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: to the Treasury. 91 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: The European Union countries have reached a preliminary deal to 92 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: reduce emissions by ninety percent by twenty forty compared with 93 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety levels. It's a key milestone on the path 94 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: to reaching net zero by twenty fifty. As consensus over 95 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: climate action has fractured, Bloomberg's Micaalcubala has. 96 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 6: More it took more than fifteen hours of negotiations. Now 97 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 6: Bloomberg has learned that EU environment ministers have reached the 98 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 6: basis for an agreement, which is due to be adopted 99 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 6: in the coming hours. The deal came after member state 100 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 6: secured assurances from the European Commission. They include trade protections 101 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 6: for steel and language on technical neutrality, a term often 102 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 6: used to open the door to more nuclear power. The 103 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 6: compromise will still need approval from the European Parliament, but 104 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 6: will allow the EU to submit its new climate pledge 105 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 6: to the United Nations. All as world leaders gather in 106 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 6: Brazil for COP thirty. In Brussels, Michalcubola, Bloomberg Radio. 107 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 2: And lastly, WhatsApp has introduced a standalone Apple Watch app 108 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: messaging on its platform, rather making messaging on its platform 109 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: easier for whereas the software includes features as such as 110 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: coll notifications, voice messages, and full length text previews. A 111 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: Meta statement described the release as just the start of 112 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: enhancing the WhatsApp experience for Apple Watch users and said 113 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: that additional features are plaied for the coming months. So 114 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 2: those are our top stories. 115 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: On the markets today. We're looking at the equity sell 116 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: off continuing in Asia at the MSCIS specific index down 117 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: by one point two percent, the Nicke and Tokyo two 118 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: point nine percent lower, the Caspian sold three point three 119 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: percent lower. Suppliers to Nvidia, particularly in focus the likes 120 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: of Advan test in Japan down by seven percent in 121 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: trading today, European stock future is firmly in the red 122 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: to down seven tenths for eurostocks fifty futures, and on 123 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: Wall Street NASDAK futures are pointing also lower, down four 124 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: tenths of one percent. 125 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: Well, in a moment, we'll bring you more on the 126 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: US election results and also how the boss of AstraZeneca 127 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: approached which is his relationship with the Trump administration. But 128 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: before that, we always like to think about food. It's 129 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: almost breakfast time, isn't it. I might not be eating 130 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: chocolate for breakfast, but maybe. 131 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we should all think about us. Quite frankly, 132 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: I think I could make the start of the day 133 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: much easier, if not necessarily particularly healthy. But this is 134 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: to do with the rising cocoa price, as the story 135 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: we've been reporting on for some time now, but also 136 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: how chocolate makers are adapting their recipes in some cases 137 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: to use less coco. The bloomber Cominnian columns Lara Williams 138 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: has been writing about this. She went to Amsterdam to 139 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: meet some of them, as she describes the real life 140 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: Willy Wonkas who are coming up with their own operations 141 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: to try and our own creations rather to try and 142 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: use less cocoa. So she tried the brownies made by Opi, 143 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: which is a food ingredients business, uses one fifth less 144 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: cocoa than normal and Larasas tastes infinitely more chocolatey. So 145 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: perhaps this could be the future. 146 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,119 Speaker 2: Well, there's been this huge controversy in the UK because 147 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: not only have we had shrink flation when it comes 148 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: to you know, chocolate products, chocolate biscuits and so on, 149 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: but also some that have actually now can't call themselves 150 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: chocolate because they don't have enough chocolate content in them 151 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: because there are rules around that labeling here in the UK. 152 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: But yes, I think, given you know, the price increases 153 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: that we've seen for coco, people are trying lots of 154 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: different things, aren't they. But it's a very nice story. 155 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: We'll put a link to it in our show notes. 156 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: That is from our Bloomberg opinion columnist Laura Williams. 157 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: Well, that's bringing more now on the US election results, 158 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: zorn Mum Danny winning the race to become New York 159 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: City's next mayor, while the Democrats also scored wins incubernatorial 160 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: votes in New Jersey and Virginia. We've got Bloomberg Daybreak 161 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: editor Mark Perrier with us for more on this story. Mark, 162 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: let's start with Zora Mumdany. Then it was, as polls 163 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,239 Speaker 1: had predicted, what won't. 164 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 6: It for them? 165 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 7: Good morning? The focus was very much on the cost 166 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 7: of living, and I think that really captured the attention 167 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 7: of a younger electorate in the city thing. Younger voters 168 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 7: really turned out for him. I think that really supported 169 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 7: him and also his opponents in the race. You know, 170 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 7: one has to remember he had already beaten Cuomo in 171 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 7: the primaries, so not not a surprise win, but definitely 172 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 7: a resounding one that will send waves through the political 173 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 7: sphere in New York and beyond. 174 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was also a three way race in 175 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 2: some way, so Andrewka, you know, some people saying that 176 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: actually Sliva because Islia maybe split the vote effectively exactly. Also, 177 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 2: though a lot of challenges perhaps lie ahead, Ma'm Danny 178 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: made many big promises. 179 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 7: He's got huge promises to fill free buses, more affordable housing, 180 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 7: turning city run grocery, creating city rung grocery stores. These 181 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 7: are massive promises. And also the fact that he wants 182 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 7: to take the wealthy to you know, to in order 183 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 7: to pay for all of this, I think will make 184 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 7: him somewhat less attractive to Wall Street, to the Wall 185 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 7: Street players in the city. He's got to build coalition here. 186 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 7: And in his acceptance speech it was very much a 187 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 7: populist message. It was very much about changing leadership. Uh 188 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 7: it was about toppling a political dynasty, That's what he said. 189 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: Uh. 190 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 7: So I think he's got to He's you know, obviously 191 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 7: he's got to work on his policy platform, but I 192 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 7: think he also needs to work on coalition building as well. 193 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 7: That will be key to his success in the city. 194 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: And we should mention as well, Mark that Michael Bloomberg 195 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: endorsed and Cuomo and the Merrill race and had to 196 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: donate it to a super park committee supporting him. Bloomberg 197 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: course the founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, which 198 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: is the parent company of Bloomberg Television and Radio. But 199 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you as well about some of 200 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: the other wins for the Democrats New Jersey and Virginia, 201 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: as well as the redistricting vote in California that passed 202 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: as well. How significant significant are those wins and what 203 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: does it tell us about the momentum behind the Democratic 204 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: parties we look ahead to next year's midterms. 205 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 7: It does re energize the party and they certainly did 206 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 7: need it. I think, you know this, this injection of 207 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 7: of of energy will propel them in the next year. 208 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 7: And obviously the whole message is around affordability. That will 209 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 7: be I think their platform going into the midterms. They'll 210 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 7: definitely play on that. On the cost of living crisis 211 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 7: in the US and again looming in the background the 212 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 7: shutdown which has hit thirty six days, so it's it's 213 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 7: definitely it may play. I think it may play in 214 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 7: their favor, but it really depends on their strategy, strategy 215 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 7: and how they you know, how they approach the electorate 216 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 7: with it. 217 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, very interesting and also there was a reaction from 218 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 2: President Trump on social media. Trump wasn't on the ballot 219 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: and shut down were the two reasons that Republicans lost 220 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: elections tonight. That was the quote from President Donald Trump 221 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: on truth social Thank you so much, Mark for being 222 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: with us today. That is Bloomberg Daybake editor Mark Perrier. 223 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: Stay with us more from Bloomberg Daybakeube coming up after this. 224 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: AstraZeneca's CEO Pasco Sorrio has turned the British drug maker 225 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: into a cancer drug powerhouse, the largest company on the 226 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: London Stock Exchange, and a business that has compromised rather 227 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: than criticized US President Donald Trump. Joining us now to 228 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: discuss Boomberg Helth reporter Ashley Furlong and her reporting into 229 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: the company and its culture. Ashley, good morning. How has 230 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: Pascott Sorrio then handles the Trump administration and its agenda 231 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: in the pharmaceutical space. 232 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 8: So he's taken the threats from the administration incredibly seriously 233 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 8: and he's really prioritized getting a deal done with Trump. 234 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 8: Skill Sorry's presence was really key to that. He was 235 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 8: in almost every meeting. He was described as really constructive. 236 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 8: Sorrio told us that he compromised in the end and 237 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 8: it wasn't what Astrazena coriginally wanted to do. But I 238 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 8: think it really shows this pivot from this British drug 239 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 8: maker increasingly to the US to what is their key 240 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 8: market and what will be their key market for growth 241 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 8: of their new medicines and the years to come. 242 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: Indeed, sorry, though, and you pointed this out, he's been 243 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: a lot less outspoken about the Trump administration when it 244 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: has challenged science. 245 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 8: Yes, yes, that is very true, and to be fair 246 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 8: to him, you know, we have heard very little from 247 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 8: drug makers in general, but Sorio essentially told me, you 248 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 8: know that there wasn't actually an impact but to the 249 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 8: company at the moment from these cuts, and what he 250 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 8: was concerned about was, you know, early career researchers and 251 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 8: available positions for them. But there's also been you know, 252 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 8: criticism of how d makers have kept quiet on what 253 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 8: is a massive attack on established science and these big 254 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 8: cuts to public health in the US, and we have 255 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 8: heard very little direct criticism from drug makers on that, 256 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 8: and obviously they rely you know a lot on the 257 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 8: Trump administration as well, so we can sort of see 258 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 8: that relationship playing out there. 259 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: Another part of your reporting, Ashley, for this piece has 260 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: been Pascal Sarrio's influence on Astra Zeneca's company culture. Tell 261 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: us more about what you learned. 262 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 8: So we heard that he when he came on in 263 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 8: twenty twelve, had a really big influence on you know, 264 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 8: everything from you know, ensuring that the science was really 265 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 8: presented to the world, making sure that staff were going 266 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 8: to scientific meetings and staff were presenting their papers in 267 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 8: high impact journals. And we also heard that it's a 268 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 8: really high pressure, intense environment to work where performance is 269 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 8: you know, really constantly monitored and you know, you know, 270 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 8: if you have a poor presentation in a meeting, you know, 271 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 8: your career at the company could. 272 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: Be a jeopardy. 273 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: So we heard it. 274 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 8: It can be a very difficult place to work as well. 275 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so then there is a tension on what 276 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: would happen to ask Zeneca post Pascal Sawyer. 277 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 8: Yes, that is obviously the big, the big unknown question. 278 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 8: You know, he is sixty six, he's been at the 279 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 8: drug Maker since twenty twelve. You know he will be 280 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 8: leaving at some stage. He sort of told us that 281 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 8: you know, that will be he won't be here for 282 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 8: ten years, but he wouldn't give a figure off, you 283 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 8: wouldn't say whether he'd be here for five. I think 284 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 8: the question is whether there's sort of key man risk, 285 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 8: and some think that they that they will that they 286 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 8: will be you know, he's been really key to remaking 287 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 8: the drug Maker, and he's also created, you know, to 288 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 8: his credit, a really skilled staff beneath him. So I 289 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 8: think there's also optimism that those people will be able 290 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 8: to carry on and you know, bring the drug Maker, 291 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 8: you know, continue to sort of increase sales and continue 292 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 8: on the trajectory that the drug makes has already on. 293 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 4: But there is also. 294 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 8: Concern that this sort of pervasive oversight that Pascal Sorrio 295 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 8: has over the drug maker. 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