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Speaker 1: Oh a good time. Tasper backs time, Bastimes, over time.

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Speaker 1: Hi there, Welcome to the show. Welcome to One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalaida Health. Welcome to Orchard Park. We do

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Speaker 1: have snow. It is coming down a little light, wet snow.

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Speaker 1: We can handle this. Good afternoon. Welcome. I'm John Murphy.

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Speaker 1: This is Team Tasker here for the next three hours

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Speaker 1: talk about the Bills. The Bills and the Browns and

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Speaker 1: the rest of the National Football League are good in

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Speaker 1: line up today. Good to be back, Steve. I was

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Speaker 1: really I woke up yesterday at like five am and

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Speaker 1: there's no way I could have come in, but you

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Speaker 1: soldier down and thanks to Maddie Glad for filling in.

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Speaker 1: You have Haddie chose to day. She was great. She's

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Speaker 1: she did well and that was the first time. And

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Speaker 1: because she's gonna do it on Thanksgiving over that, and

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Speaker 1: she's so she's on our roster now, right, you say so? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: these are above I pay grade these decisions. I know.

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Speaker 1: I think we should chime in though, I mean, certainly

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Speaker 1: for Maddie. I don't know if somebody's people maybe not

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Speaker 1: So that was interesting, good use of my time, because

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Speaker 1: Layers of this onion, Murph. Yeah, it's an interesting game,

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Speaker 1: that means there are matchup issues for the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 1: that's in nineteen seventies. It's a crime. I'm gonna take

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Speaker 1: you back. And if you're a new fan and you

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Speaker 1: make this may not resonate with you. Tough listen up,

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Speaker 1: because it's one of the most famous games Enfranchise history.

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Speaker 1: January sixth, nineteen ninety Steves on the team, the Bills

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Speaker 1: are a year away from going to four straight Super Bowls,

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Speaker 1: and they play a Saturday afternoon playoff game Card wild

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Speaker 1: Card game at the old Cleveland Stadium, which was a dump.

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Speaker 1: Which was a mess. It was a dump is a

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Speaker 1: plight way, it was an atrocity. Yes, the locker room

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Speaker 1: was awful, the field was awful, and yet it remains

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Speaker 1: to this day the most memorable game of this series.

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Speaker 1: Tell us something that folks might not know. We know

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Harmon dropped a pass. We know Don Beeby wound

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Speaker 1: up bouncing off the head. We know the no huddle

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Speaker 1: was sort of a fully explored and kind of came

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Speaker 1: of the age in that playoff game. We know that

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Speaker 1: there's a lot in that game. I have somebody tell

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Speaker 1: us something that we might not know about that game

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Speaker 1: or that day. I'll can I tell you one thing.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead. You think, you know, people might not want

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Speaker 1: to hear this, But I'm with the late grade Van

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Speaker 1: Miller Saturday morning. So the game's twelve thirty kickoff Saturday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Bean and I get there about nine thirty in the morning,

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Speaker 1: and we're walking around the field and Hall of Famer O. J.

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Speaker 1: knows Van and I had met him. We spent an

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Speaker 1: hour and a half walking around circles around the field

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Speaker 1: just talking to OJ. And yeah, at the time, OJ

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Speaker 1: I was impressed. I say, wow, OJ's a pretty impressive

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Speaker 1: young young man. He was obviously of his football career.

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Speaker 1: I'll always remember that about that day, especially in light

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Speaker 1: of the events that had a couple years later. We

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Speaker 1: gotta take a break, we gotta we can talk about

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Speaker 1: that Cleveland Brown unique time to think I had any

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Speaker 1: time to think about. But it was a ton of

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Speaker 1: stuff going on in that game. A lot of cool stuff,

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Speaker 1: a lot of really cool stuff. But you know what

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Speaker 1: I remember as a player, Eric Metcalf returned one ninety

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Speaker 1: seven yards on me, right past me. I couldn't. I had, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had contained like you know, I just he he

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Speaker 1: difference in the game. That game was a tennis match.

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Speaker 1: It was back and forth. It was a phenomenal game,

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Speaker 1: really a good, good game. I will say that one

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Speaker 1: other memory I have flying home, Ronnie Harmon dropped the

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Speaker 1: pass second to last playwright of the game, I think

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Speaker 1: or then Clay intersected. But on the way home, and

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Speaker 1: he never did this, and he only did it once.

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Speaker 1: Man and I were sitting on the charter coming home

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Speaker 1: short flight and the general ranag your bill. Poleon came

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Speaker 1: up and just said to both of us that guy

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Speaker 1: will never do that again for us, meaning Ruddy Arm

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Speaker 1: and Ruddy armand was gone in the off season. He

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Speaker 1: said that will never happen again because it was there

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Speaker 1: in his hands and it just didn't happen. Anyway. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to live on memory lane. It was an

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Speaker 1: amazing game, though, an amazing game and a watershed game

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Speaker 1: in franchise history. Right. Yeah. In fact, I've always felt

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Speaker 1: like that game sort of propelled your group to Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: We don't have time to talk about it now. I'm

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Speaker 1: off on a tangent. Let's go to practice and talk

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Speaker 1: about this. Let's talk about this because this game is

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Speaker 1: pretty firms coming in later, we'll talk to him about Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go. We'll talk with him about that. All right,

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Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about him. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go to practice. Chris Brown standing by on the sidelines

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Speaker 1: inside the end Pro Sports Training Center when we come back,

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Speaker 1: So come on back with us. We're just getting rolled

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Speaker 1: in One Bill's I presented by Collid to Health from

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Speaker 1: the Seneca Studio in Archard Park. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back One goes live John Murphy's Steve Tasker in

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Speaker 1: our studio, the Seneca Studio in Archard Park. It's a

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Speaker 1: little snow coming down here in Archard Park today. Happy

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Speaker 1: to have me in the audience with us. Happy to

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Speaker 1: go to our man at practice there inside the ad

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Speaker 1: Pro Sports Training Center. That's where Chris Brown, Bills Insider

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Speaker 1: from Buffalo Bills dot Com joins us. Chris, good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. So I know you're inside, but

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Speaker 1: I noticed walking through the field house earlier today how

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Speaker 1: they deliberately cool it off when they're getting ready for

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Speaker 1: an outdoor game, don't they It's it's chilly in there today. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they opened the doors on the side of the fieldhouse

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Speaker 1: to let the cold outdoor air in. So yeah, they

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Speaker 1: try to replicate the outdoor environment even though they are inside. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I hate that, Chris. You didn't know laughing is all

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Speaker 1: business today, So let's get down to business with Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: the business of Miles Garrett. Watching a couple of Brown's

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Speaker 1: games over the last couple of days, I thought, or

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Speaker 1: there's a guy we gotta handle. How did the Bills

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Speaker 1: deal with Miles Garrett? What do you think? Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I leave Dion Dawkins on an

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Speaker 1: island for the whole game, for sure, I think they've

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Speaker 1: got a chip that guy. Maybe put the tight end

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Speaker 1: over there, make that the strong side of the formation.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean the guy he leads the AFC

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Speaker 1: in sacks. He's only a half sack off the league lead,

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Speaker 1: which is Shaquille Barrett down in Tampa Bay. So ten

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Speaker 1: sacks and eight games, that's enough to get your attention.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure after they watched the film he'll have

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Speaker 1: even more of their attention this week. So yeah, it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if they put a tight end over there,

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Speaker 1: chip a back over there, have DeMarco hit him on

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Speaker 1: the way out on a route. So yeah, he deserves

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Speaker 1: extra attention for sure. Do you think the offensive line's

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Speaker 1: gonna be with is gonna have hiseci at right tackle?

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Speaker 1: In time? He didn't play, He practiced yesterday, took his

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Speaker 1: obligatory day off yesterday. He seems to be back at

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Speaker 1: it today. Yeah. I mean Ford was lining up with

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Speaker 1: the first team again today and he was not even

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Speaker 1: on the injury report yesterday. So even though he's still

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Speaker 1: got a big brace on his left elbow, he's a

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Speaker 1: full participant here. So I wonder if they go back

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Speaker 1: to the rotation that has been pretty much the norm

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Speaker 1: week's game. Huh, that'll be interesting to watch it, you know,

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Speaker 1: um Miles garretson issue and the Bills. Certainly Bills fans

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Speaker 1: are well aware of the guy on the other side. Right.

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Speaker 1: For years, Olivia Vernon has had has had good games

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Speaker 1: against the Bills most of the time. Well with Miami,

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Speaker 1: he's something someone you can't ignore up front either, right,

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Speaker 1: but he's nicked up in practice yesterday. We'll have to

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Speaker 1: see what his practice participation is here on Thursday. So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to see how he makes it through

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Speaker 1: the week. If he does dress, is he full go?

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Speaker 1: You know, is he one hundred percent Olivier Vernon or

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Speaker 1: just eighty percent Olivier Vernon? That could make a difference.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the quarterback issue. We've we had this

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Speaker 1: U T Twitter poll coming out. We were thinking, you know,

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Speaker 1: he'd come into this game, and so much was made

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Speaker 1: out of the success Baker Mayfield had last year and

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Speaker 1: now he has not had and it seems as though

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Speaker 1: Josh Alan seems to have like he didn't hasn't had

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Speaker 1: those games like Baker Mayfield had last year, but he

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Speaker 1: seems to be on a steady incline of improvement, whereas

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield seems to have taken a step back and

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Speaker 1: had a sophomore slump. Yeah, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I think Josh is incrementally pushing his game forward this season.

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Speaker 1: You know, as completion percentage is obviously up about eight

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Speaker 1: percent from where it was last year. He's right around

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Speaker 1: sixty percent. And I remember saying back in training camp,

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Speaker 1: if we get to the end of the season and

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Speaker 1: Josh is somewhere between fifty eight to sixty percent completion

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Speaker 1: percentage on the year. That's a step forward for him.

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Speaker 1: May not be for other people, but for him, that

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Speaker 1: would be a step forward. For Mayfield, it's gone the

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Speaker 1: other way. You know, he was about a sixty three

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Speaker 1: to sixty four percent passer last year as a rookie,

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Speaker 1: and he was about two to one touchdown interception ratio.

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Speaker 1: He's upside down on touchdowns to interceptions. I think he's

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Speaker 1: seven to twelve. And then you look at his completion percentage,

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Speaker 1: it's just under fifty nine percent. And he was clearly

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Speaker 1: one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: class coming out. So he has definitely taken a step back. Now.

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Speaker 1: It's not all his fault. There is a catch rate

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Speaker 1: issue with the Browns as a whole. They're down in

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Speaker 1: the bottom third of the league and catch rate. Now,

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Speaker 1: sometimes that's balls not being on the money, hurry throws

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Speaker 1: not being accurate, but there's also been a share of

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Speaker 1: drops on the part of the Browns receivers as well.

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Speaker 1: There's season I think they're in the top six or

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Speaker 1: seven in the league in terms of total drop passes

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Speaker 1: this season with Chris Brown. He's on the sidelines at

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Speaker 1: the Bill's practice inside the m Pro Sports Training Center

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Speaker 1: on this Thursday afternoon. And Chris, we know that Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen is buddies with Sam Donald or the Jets, another

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Speaker 1: member of the quarterback class of twenty eighteen. I've never

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Speaker 1: heard him say anything about Baker Mayfield. Is there any

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Speaker 1: connection between those two, those two members of this quarterback class.

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Speaker 1: And as Josh talking all about, you know he's got

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Speaker 1: Lamar Alexander in a couple of weeks. Actually, is he

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Speaker 1: talking all about going up against this group as they

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Does he talk anything about going up against

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Speaker 1: this group, this group this year? No, I think he's

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Speaker 1: trying to downplay it on purpose. I think he realizes

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Speaker 1: that the media and outside observers with respect to this

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Speaker 1: game are going to focus on the quarterback matchup because

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Speaker 1: they are two members of the quarterback class, and quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: the Bills are going to take the full tour here

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Speaker 1: of the twenty eighteen class this year, as you mentioned.

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Speaker 1: But No, I don't sense there's the same camaraderie with

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Speaker 1: you can understand it. Darnald and Alan both California guys.

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Speaker 1: They both work with Jordan Palmer at the QB summit

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Speaker 1: in the offseason, So I think there's a prior there

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Speaker 1: draft class that I think existed between those two guys.

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Speaker 1: And I kind of get the sense that Darnold and

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Speaker 1: Alan are cut from the same cloth in terms of personality,

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Speaker 1: where Mayfield is the outlier. You know, he's kind of

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Speaker 1: the cocky, confident guy who's taking pictures in front of

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Speaker 1: Rolls Royces with a shirt off next to a tiger,

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Speaker 1: and that just doesn't really speak to who Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: and Sam Darnold dark. It's a good, good point by you, Brown,

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Speaker 1: And let's talk about some of the weapons and how

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Speaker 1: the Bills are gonna gonna deploy their defense against guys

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Speaker 1: like Jarvis Landry and OBJ. How do you think the

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Speaker 1: Bills secondary will. I know that they'll change it up

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Speaker 1: in the secondary. I made this assertion yesterday that you'll

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Speaker 1: probably see Tredevious White on OBJ quite a bit, and

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Speaker 1: you'll also see him get help from inside, you'll see

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Speaker 1: him on Jarvis Landry. How do you think the Bills

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Speaker 1: are gonna view the two wide receivers for Cleveland, how

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Speaker 1: they're gonna defend them? Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't shock

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Speaker 1: me if there's safety help over the top. I would

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Speaker 1: anticipate that Tredevious White, who for the first time last

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Speaker 1: is going to do the same this week against the

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Speaker 1: Browns with OBJ. So I wouldn't shock me at all

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Speaker 1: of Tradavious White travels with OBJ no matter where he

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Speaker 1: lines up on the field. I think the Bills are

638
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Speaker 1: certainly aware of it, talking to some of them in

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Speaker 1: the locker room yesterday that there's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: talk this week in Cleveland about force feeding Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: Junior the football. He's averaging eight point three targets per

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Speaker 1: game this season, and while that may sound like a lot,

643
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Speaker 1: it's a career low for him, and so I think

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00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: they know they need to make a more concerted effort

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Speaker 1: to get one of the best receivers in the game

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Speaker 1: the football more often, or at least get him more

647
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Speaker 1: looks at the football per game than the eight point

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Speaker 1: three that he's currently averaging. And Landry's a guy that

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Speaker 1: they look for on third down help them move the sticks.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be operating out of the slot of good deal,

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Speaker 1: So that means Tarn Johnson. But is it only Tarn

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Speaker 1: Johnson or do they go with a committee approach as

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Speaker 1: they have done through the course of this season. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe some downs they put a bigger body on him,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Dean Marlowe or Saran Neil, and then maybe

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Speaker 1: in true cover situations, true passing downs, maybe they go

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Speaker 1: with a shiftier, more quick area guy like or short

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Speaker 1: area quickness guy like Taryn Johnson to handle Landry there.

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Speaker 1: So it's really gonna be interesting to see what they

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Speaker 1: turn to because there's a lot of pages in that

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Speaker 1: Nickel Corner book that they could utilize in throwing different

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Speaker 1: things at Jarvis Landry through the course of the game.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday ahead, Kevin Johnson's been part of that one

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Speaker 1: of those pages too. He was limited yesterday. They wouldn't

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Speaker 1: need him, I would think this Sunday if he's available, Chris, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't shock me if they utilize him. And you know,

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Speaker 1: even on the outside. Perhaps. You know, Levi Wallace's has

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Speaker 1: had some of some struggles of late, especially in some

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Speaker 1: man cover calls. Kevin Johnson, I think most would agree,

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Speaker 1: is a better man cover corner than Levi, who really

671
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Speaker 1: excels in the zone calls and the zone schemes. So

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Speaker 1: do they flip flop those two based on what they're

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Speaker 1: dialing up. It'd be interesting to see if they turn

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Speaker 1: turned to that as an option, knowing the caliber of

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Speaker 1: receivers they're going against this week. I still think everything

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00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: kind of revolves around O b J. Given his volatility.

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Speaker 1: I think if if he's not getting targeted, let alone

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Speaker 1: throw thrown the football or let alone making any catches, uh,

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Speaker 1: that could have that offense spiraling downward. If the and

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Speaker 1: if the if the atmosphere in Cleveland is such that

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Speaker 1: they feel like they've got to force feed him the

682
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Speaker 1: football that plays right into the Buffalo Bill's hands and

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Speaker 1: just you know, take the guy away and force him

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Speaker 1: to beach if left handed. Well, I almost like it

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Speaker 1: that they want to try to force feed Odell the

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Speaker 1: football because to me, that means more opportunities for Tredevious

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Speaker 1: White to make plays for the defense. Uh. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: get a lot through the course of games in most cases.

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Speaker 1: In fact, entering last week's game, guys Tredevious White was

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Speaker 1: leading the league and opponent passer rate it was down

691
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Speaker 1: around twenty point three. Opposing passers when they target Trydevia's

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Speaker 1: White's cover assignment. So if they want to force feed

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Speaker 1: him the ball, I'm all for it because I think

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Speaker 1: Trey would probably come up with a player two that

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Speaker 1: could swing the game. Let me get you to another matchup, Chris,

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Speaker 1: And that's what the Bills do with the Cleveland's run game.

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Speaker 1: Nick Chump has been outstanding this year and now they

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Speaker 1: thrown Kareem Hunt. And let's face it, the Buffalo run

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Speaker 1: defense has been challenged for about two and a half

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Speaker 1: three weeks. Now, what did they do there? Well, they

701
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Speaker 1: have the option to going with that split back look

702
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: that we've seen each of the last two weeks from Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia used it with great success, including the sixty five

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Speaker 1: yard touchdown, and Washington ran the same exact play last

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Speaker 1: week and I think they got ten to twelve yards

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Speaker 1: on the play on a carry by Adrian Peterson if

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Speaker 1: memory serves so. Knowing Kareem Hunt is in the fold now.

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Speaker 1: Coach Kitchens earlier this week said, yes, Kareem Hunt will

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Speaker 1: have a role for us offensively. He's been practicing with

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Speaker 1: the team each of the last two weeks before officially

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Speaker 1: you know, being active now. So I would anticipate that

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Speaker 1: a player of his caliber will have a role. I

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Speaker 1: think Kareem Hunt is very underrated as a pass receiver

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Speaker 1: out of the backfield even now, despite the success that

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Speaker 1: he had in Kansas City earlier in his career. So

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Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if you let Nick Chubb continue to

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Speaker 1: do his thing running the football and then utilize Kareem

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Speaker 1: Hunt as a receiver out of the backfield this week.

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Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Chris, thanks for this. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta guys. Chris Brown, Bills Insider Buffalo Bills dot

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Speaker 1: Com on the field at practice today this Thursday. Practice

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Speaker 1: is underweight inside the end Pro Sports Training Center. We

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Speaker 1: didn't even get to all the matchup I know, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. We didn't even talk about some

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00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: of the matchups that face the Bills. Look, I'm not

726
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: saying they're up against the Browns are two and six.

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00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: They've earned there two and six because they make bad mistakes.

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00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: They average a nine plus penalties for game. They've turned

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00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: it over. They played stupid football. I mean, I'm watching

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Speaker 1: games yesterday see when I was home thinking, this is

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00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: a talented team that plays very stupid football. Now they

732
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: can snap out of that, but they've earned their two

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Speaker 1: wins six loss record. Yeah, and the thing I'm looking

734
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Speaker 1: at now in Bill's favor, you look at matchups. The

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00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: Browns can't stop the run at all. The Bills have

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00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: struggled in the last couple of three weeks, but they

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Speaker 1: did it and wins. And they kind of short it

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Speaker 1: up in the second half of last week's game against

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Speaker 1: Washington in a big way. They got back to where

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Speaker 1: they were in the first three or four or five

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Speaker 1: weeks of the season. But the Browns are thirtieth in

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Speaker 1: the league against the run. They can't stop people. So

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Speaker 1: Devin Singletary may have a day. You know, they may

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00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: feed him. The football asked Josh Allen to get pick

745
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: up third and one's, third and two's all day and

746
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Speaker 1: see if they can stay on the field and let

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00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield never get through the sixteen scripted plays they

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Speaker 1: start the game with. You know what I'm saying, So

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Speaker 1: I mean, and we were laughing yesterday, this game maybe

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Speaker 1: over in ninety six minutes. You know, Bills run the

751
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: football really well, and the Browns feel like they got

752
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: cream hunted Nick Chubb. They're gonna run the football and

753
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: are defensive secondaries covering those guys up. They mean, you say,

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00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: both these teams just run the football. The clock may

755
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: never stop. I mean, it's gonna be. I think this

756
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be one of those games that gets over quick. Um.

757
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm excited about in one respect the matchups.

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Speaker 1: You know, in so many ways, the talent level and

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00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: the star power goes toward Cleveland. I think the run

760
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: run game of the Bills, I guess the run defense

761
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns looks pretty good for the Bills.

762
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: Really fun matchup to look at the Bills players. He

763
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Speaker 1: even did so. Micah Hyde in the locker room yesterday

764
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: was asked about at the Browns offensive talent despite their

765
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: two and six record, What does Mike Hyde think about that?

766
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: Here's what he said. They got weapons all over the field. Um,

767
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: you know they can get the ball and you know

768
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: those school positions hands and they can take it to

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00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: the house. Um yeah, I think in my years playing

770
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: in the league, I think this is the most talented

771
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: two and sixteen. Um. But you know, I, like I said,

772
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: the record doesn't income how goody are. They're good football ting.

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00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: They got a good quarterback. You know his UM media

774
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: has been killing him about struggling all that stuff. You know, Um,

775
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: is a good game for you know, for them. I'm

776
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: sure they're you know, around their camp talking about how

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00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: this is a good game, gets a good opponent to

778
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: get a win and get some momentum rolling. So, UM,

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00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: they're gonna be gad to play. We understand that. UM.

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00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: And then from all the other positions they got, they

781
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: got guys all over the field specifically. You know, you

782
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: talk about the talent like when you're scouting this team

783
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: and you're preparing, who who kind of jumps out at

784
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Speaker 1: you because they have you said, they have weapons all

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00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: over They all do. They all do? UM. You know

786
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: you can you can go from the receivers to the backs. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, Kareem hunts up this week, so we understand

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00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a you know, play a pivotal role

789
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: in their offense this week. UM. You know, there's guys

790
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: all over the field you can't. You can't single out one. Um.

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00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: You know, I will say their back is really good.

792
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: I don't think he gets enough credit, you know. He Uh,

793
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: he's a very good running back in this league. Um.

794
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 1: And then uh, you know, just from the quarterback position

795
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: to the receivers, they got guys all over you know.

796
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes And I heard Jan McDermott on another radio show

797
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: this morning get critic not criticized, but you know, kind

798
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: of ridiculed for seeing how talented the Brown's roster is.

799
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: Belichick does it every week no matter how bad the

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00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: opponent is. This week where this Cleveland Browns team, what

801
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: Mike I said, it's real. I mean, they're two and six,

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00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: as they said, they do too many penalties, they've turned

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00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 1: it over a lot, um, they played stupid football. They're

804
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: not well coached. But there's talent there on that two

805
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: and six roster, which gets your attention when you up

806
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: to play against And we've and we've seen it not

807
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: only around the league but here in Buffalo over the

808
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: years where you've where they've been struggling and they'll put

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00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: it together for a game or two games, or they'll

810
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: get to get on a streak where they don't take penalties,

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Speaker 1: and they don't turn it over and all of a sudden,

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00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: that talent gets a chance to shine. They're tough to beat,

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00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: and they'll string a couple of wins together. You don't

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00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: want them to start that here. They've they've lost four straight.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they're fed up with that. Yeah, you know,

816
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Speaker 1: And getting back to me, they're gonna play at home.

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00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: They played out in Denver last week. They'll be back

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00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: at home this week, and you're gonna get like the

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Speaker 1: Bills have in the last couple of games. You're gonna

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00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: get the best swing from the Cleveland Browns. They're gonna

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00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: come out and lay it out there. I think for

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Speaker 1: this for their home out, for the fact that they're

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00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: trying to snap a four game losing streak. Nobody wants

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00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: to do that, and we've all seen two is a

825
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,959
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff doesn't last, and there's a reason

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Speaker 1: for it. These guys will rise up and play better.

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Speaker 1: So what do you think we want to hear from here?

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Speaker 1: Our Twitter poll is about this issue we've talked about

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Speaker 1: for the first forty five minutes of the show. If

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00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: the Bills win against the Browns on Sunday, what will

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00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: be the biggest reason. I think they're gonna win, but

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00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: I have a hard time telling you why. But maybe

833
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: you can look into your crystal ball and tell us

834
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Speaker 1: Twitter poll and you can find it at one Bills

835
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Speaker 1: Live on Twitter. If the Bills win at the Browns

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, what will be the biggest reason. I've already

837
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Speaker 1: got thirteen hundred votes in on this, and fifty nine

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00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: percent of you say it'll be because the Buffalo defense

839
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: handles the Browns offensive weapons. Well, that's important, and the

840
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo defense, I think you can still rely on them.

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00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: And fifty nine percent of you say that's where you go.

842
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: Twenty percent of you say, if the Bills win, it

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00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: will be because the Browns cannot pull it together still,

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Speaker 1: and that could happen, right, They could continue this funk

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Speaker 1: that they're in, this penalty filled, mistake filled funk that

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Speaker 1: they've played the first half of this season. Seventeen percent

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Speaker 1: of you say, if the Bills beat the Browns Sunday,

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Speaker 1: the biggest reason would be Josh Allen is a better

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Speaker 1: quarterback than Baker Mayfield. He's got better numbers. Mayfield had

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Speaker 1: a remarkable first season rookie season last year, twenty seven

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes in thirteen games, and that's not the case

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Speaker 1: this year. He's not playing well and they're not utilizing

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Speaker 1: some of their offensive weapons. So maybe that's where you're

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Speaker 1: going four percent of something else. Let us know what

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Speaker 1: you think. Phone lines open eight oh three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty outside Buffalo. It's a toll free call one eight

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Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Sending a tweet,

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Speaker 1: We'll get to the tweet sheet momentarily. Or vote in

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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll. If the Bills win at the Browns

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, what would be the biggest reason. Let us

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Speaker 1: know what you think it is. We'll get to all

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Speaker 1: of your responses and we come back. John Murphy and

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. It's one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 1: Live from the Seneca Studio, Seneca Resorts in Casino. Nothing

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Speaker 1: comes close on Bill's Live. John Murphy, Steve Tasker coming

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Speaker 1: to you from the studio. What's it matter? What do

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Speaker 1: you shake your head? Des Bryant's got a workout video

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Speaker 1: out now he's running pass rouses your desk. You are

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Speaker 1: done coming up at one o'clock. Des Bryant joins us.

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Speaker 1: Something to show Bryant, he's done, Man, just retire bro

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Speaker 1: Okay Brom coming up at one Hall of Famer Thurman

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Speaker 1: Thomas coming up after practice. Check Lawson's gonna join us.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk with Jake Crawford. We think from Cleveland

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Speaker 1: TV about the brown want to get to you two

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Speaker 1: um our Twitter poll today, I think we have a

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet. Did we get one yet? Did I toss

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Speaker 1: it again? No? I have no If the Bills were

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Speaker 1: to win on Sunday, what'll be the biggest factor? What

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Speaker 1: do you think? Let me call I got it? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you cough and I'm gonna go. I'll go to the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet from William He says, I think the offense

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Speaker 1: will have a good game, but with the talent on

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Speaker 1: the Browns offense, they can explode at anytime. The Bill's

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Speaker 1: defense needs to play their game and keep the Browns

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Speaker 1: offense in check. And the early going murph on our

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll, everybody's saying A and C is because they

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a combination. But C is running

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Speaker 1: away with the Bill's defense is the I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of people believe is the key to this game.

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Speaker 1: And I agree as well. Here's one from Bills and

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Speaker 1: Mets fans. I expect our defense to show up this

892
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Speaker 1: weekend and prove a lot of people that were as

893
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Speaker 1: good a football team as the record says we are.

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Speaker 1: I want to see a clean shaven Baker Mayfield at

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Speaker 1: the postgame press conference. The Bill's defense is going to

896
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Speaker 1: have to give old Baker a close shave. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: more about that. There you go. By the way, the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official movers of the Buffalo Bills. Let's work getting

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Speaker 1: a couple of phone calls here. Let's go to H.

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Speaker 1: Richard in Cleveland. Hello, Richard, are you a Browns fan?

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Speaker 1: I'm a Browns fans in sixty five? Okay. And you

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Speaker 1: know you were talking about Municipal Stadium when it was

904
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Speaker 1: there and you called it a dump. Well that's an

905
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Speaker 1: insult to dumps everywhere. That's what I said to Richard.

906
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Speaker 1: But go ahead. I went to baseball there, Richard. You

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Speaker 1: ever go to baseball games there in Municipal? Yeah? It

908
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: was still awful. It was very awful. It was the

909
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Speaker 1: same stadium for both teams. Yeah, football, the best seats

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Speaker 1: were the furthest Ones away because of the configuration of

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Speaker 1: the of the stadium. Yeah, why had I had good

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Speaker 1: seats and I needed binoculars. Yeah, horrible. One more Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Municipal Stadium story. The radio press box was on the

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Speaker 1: roof of the stadium, the south roof of the stadium,

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Speaker 1: not the side adjacent to the lake, but the other side,

916
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Speaker 1: way up top. It was like a high school press box,

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Speaker 1: like four different it was wood, four different wood. Apply. Yeah,

918
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Speaker 1: you've been up there right. The TV was up there too,

919
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Speaker 1: The CBS TV booth was up there where the red

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Speaker 1: right eighty eight against the Hitters. I've never been more

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00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: cold in my whole life than it was that day. Yeah,

922
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Speaker 1: it was horrible. Yeah, I'm with you, Richard. All right, Richard. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Earl in Wellsville, New York. Hello, Earl,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Hey guys, great to have you here.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, guys, this has been a great year

926
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Speaker 1: for you guys covering the Bills. You've done a great job.

927
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Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. Thank you. Hey. I gotta go back

928
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Speaker 1: with Steve on our recognition to our boys. Even the

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Speaker 1: analyst during game time, they act like exist. We've lost

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Speaker 1: a game before we even start, and sometimes I think

931
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Speaker 1: that it's ball, it's bull because Bills are getting the WS.

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Speaker 1: They don't quit, they played from the start to the finish,

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Speaker 1: and the boys don't get recognition for that. Can I

934
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Speaker 1: suggest you might look at the you might listen to

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Speaker 1: the radio broadcast myself and Eric would Eric Gibson recognition? Yeah, seriously,

936
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Speaker 1: you guys do that radio. I'm just saying the analysts

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Speaker 1: on the TV, turn off the TV and listen to

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Speaker 1: the radio broadcast, my man. Easy to do. Now, I

939
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Speaker 1: can tell it's Thursday, Earl and the blood's still going there.

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Speaker 1: You go. Good for you, Earl. But I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think and I was telling Murph as

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Speaker 1: a former player, and like, again, we're gonna have therm

943
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Speaker 1: it on. He used to do this. It was. It

944
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: was great at it. You know, you take all the stuff,

945
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Speaker 1: you take the public perception that is reflected back at

946
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: you about your team, and you listen to what they

947
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Speaker 1: say or what has not said, and you kind of

948
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Speaker 1: digest it because, let's face it, if you know somebody's

949
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: talking about you, you want to hear what they're saying.

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Speaker 1: That's the predicament that Bills and and pro football players

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00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: are in. Whenever city you're playing in, there's a constant

952
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: banter about the team going on on the airwaves for

953
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Speaker 1: the sports radio talk and then nationally as well, and

954
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: it's usually of the same vein. Usually the national guys

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Speaker 1: take their que from the local guys who really know it,

956
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Speaker 1: and they kind of it kind of goes from there,

957
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: and and you know, of course the national guys have

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Speaker 1: their own opinions too when they watch the team. So

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Speaker 1: as a player in the locker room your own team,

960
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Speaker 1: you kind of get what's going on. What people are

961
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: saying about you. You can't not hear it. They can

962
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: tell you they're not listening, but they hear it, and

963
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: they'll that they are, and they're very interested in it.

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00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: Most players have the ability to take what is said

965
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Speaker 1: about them and construe it into motivation. Like with and

966
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Speaker 1: this respect thing that gets tossed around a lot is

967
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: big and it's an easy target. And I'm telling you,

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Speaker 1: this Bills team has a lot of reason to have

969
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: a lot of fuel for the amount of lack of attention.

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00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm not saying disrespect, but yeah, it'll be construed in

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Speaker 1: the locker room is disrespect. They're talking. They people are

972
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Speaker 1: having more fun talking about the Cleveland Browns at two

973
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Speaker 1: and six than they are about the Buffalo Bills being

974
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Speaker 1: a six and two again, no matter who they played,

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Speaker 1: And that to me is a great, great log on

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Speaker 1: the fire for what motivates you, I think, and I'm

977
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: looking for this team to see it that way. You

978
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: already heard Micah Hyde say, Hey, I'm I'm tired of

979
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: apologizing for being six and two and for ugly wins.

980
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: We're six and two and he's tired of apologizing to it.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if that translates into some some good play.

982
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: But I'm with you, I think there is I think

983
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Speaker 1: the Bills at six and two, with the second best

984
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: record in the conference, are under the radar, under the radar,

985
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: a little bit of the New England effect, maybe little

986
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: bits of schedule, no question, but I just it's amazing

987
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: to me that in a year like this, that this

988
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: is where we're at. I think the Bills deserve a

989
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: little more credit than they're getting. I don't think they'll

990
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 1: get it until until they win some games, some even

991
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: more games. Yep, you gotta win this one. We're gonna

992
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: take a break and come back, Thurman Thomas Hall of

993
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Speaker 1: Fame running backs are gonna join us. We will explore

994
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: this issue in depth when Thurman comes back. Come on

995
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Speaker 1: back with us. One Bill's Live presented by Seneca Resorts

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Speaker 1: in Casino, coming up from our studio, the Seneca Studio

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Speaker 1: at One Bill's Drive, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio,

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Speaker 1: Bills Radio Network Sports Stop Dame if Day comes from

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. The Bills inside the ed Pro Sports

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Speaker 1: Fieldhouse practicing as we speak their Thursday's practice before Sunday's

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Speaker 1: game against two and six Cleveland. The Bills have won

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Speaker 1: four the last five they played against the Browns, and

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Speaker 1: they hit the road after three straight at home, three

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00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: of Buffalo's next four games around the road. They're three

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Speaker 1: and o on the road so far this year. The

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00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: Browns have lost four in a row last week, losing

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00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: in Denver. On the injury report yesterday, the Bills said

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00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: cornerback Kevin Johnson and safety Kirk Coleman limited. After practice

1009
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Speaker 1: day will get a sense of where they stand right now.

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Speaker 1: The referee Sunday is Round Turbot. The Sunday weather in

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Speaker 1: Cleveland calls for cloudy skies, breezy conditions a high fifty one.

1012
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Speaker 1: If you can't get there, and they know many Western

1013
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: New Yorkers are going there. But if you can't get there,

1014
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Speaker 1: We've got the game on our radio flagship here in Buffalo,

1015
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Speaker 1: w g R Sports Radio five fifty got the play

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Speaker 1: by play with Eric Wood and Salcapacho be on the field.

1017
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Speaker 1: Thirdday Night Football tonight as the NFL weekend gets started.

1018
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Speaker 1: The Chargers and Raiders tonight eight twenty in Oakland, Alameda

1019
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: County Coliseum, the charges of one of the last four

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Speaker 1: times these two teams have played. Patrick Mahome was pressing

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00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 1: to make an early return from his injury. Chiefs coach

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid says the quarterback will practice yesterday and the

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Speaker 1: team will increase his workload a little bit more this

1024
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: week to see how his knee responds. He was a

1025
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Speaker 1: full participant yesterday for the first time since he was injured.

1026
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Speaker 1: The reigning NFL MVP suffered a dislocated kneecap in Week seven,

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Speaker 1: still pushing to come back when the Chiefs play the

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00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans this Sunday. Washington doesn't have to name a

1029
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: starter yet, but when they do next week after the bye,

1030
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Speaker 1: they were expected to go with Rickey, quarterback Dwayne Haskins,

1031
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: who started the game at Buffalo this fast Sunday, and

1032
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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara's nearly month long absence is coming to an end.

1033
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: Saints coach Sean Payton said today he expects Camara to

1034
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Speaker 1: play Sunday against the division leading or division rival Atlanta Falcons.

1035
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Speaker 1: Jordan Matthews back in the NFL, the former Bills receiver

1036
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Speaker 1: gets another job with the Philadelphia Eagles. A familiar face there.

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Speaker 1: It's his third stint in Philadelphia, former second round pick

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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. And the Sabers practice this morning in Stockholm,

1039
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Speaker 1: getting set for their Global Series games this weekend, game

1040
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Speaker 1: one against Tampa Bay tomorrow at two pm. And that

1041
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Speaker 1: is the update from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy and

1042
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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and our one Buffalo studio. The Bills practicing

1043
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Speaker 1: on the other side of the wall over there inside

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Speaker 1: the ant Pro Sports Training Center. Joining us right now

1045
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Speaker 1: on the line are familiar guests one o'clock on Thursdays.

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Speaker 1: Happy to have Hall of Fame running back Thurman Thomas

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Speaker 1: on the line. Good afternoon, Thurman, Thanks coming in coming on,

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Speaker 1: Thank buddy. How's it going? It's going well, yeah, I'm

1049
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Speaker 1: John Murphy. This is team tell us. It's not a third.

1050
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Speaker 1: You gave me the buddy like we'd never met. Ye,

1051
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Speaker 1: that's what happens. We don't come in hey third, everybody.

1052
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the Cleveland Brown game back in ninth

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Speaker 1: January ninety, nineteen ninety after the you know, the nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty nine bills and when where you had thirteen catches

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Speaker 1: hundred fifty yards is a great game in old Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Municipal Stadium. What do you remember about that game? Oh? Man,

1057
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: just uh, you know one of those games that was

1058
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, I think we were coming off you know,

1059
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 1: we're trying to finish up that label of having like

1060
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, the bicker and bills, you know, and what

1061
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: a game to uh kind of squash all that stuff

1062
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: that was going on, you know throughout the year. But uh,

1063
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, going against Bernie Kozar, I mean it was

1064
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: a fabulous game. And I don't know if you missed that,

1065
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 1: but that's probably the worst piece of grass turf whatever

1066
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: it was, I've ever I've ever played on in my

1067
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: entire career, and uh, you know, it was just a

1068
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 1: great game. You know, it came down to one of

1069
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: the final players of the game. And I know we

1070
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: all talked about, you know, the Ronnie Harmon drop or whatever,

1071
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: but man, it was a classic playoff game that you

1072
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: know that I always remember. And I happened to see

1073
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: uh a couple of during the summer, had had a

1074
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: chance to see Clay Matthews, And the first thing he said,

1075
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: the first thing he said to me, you should have

1076
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: had at least twenty catches that game. I was like, yeah, probably,

1077
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: he was a great game. You were in the meeting

1078
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: room obviously in those years with Ronnie Harmon, and you know,

1079
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: Bill's fans remember that as a Ronnie Harmon game, He's

1080
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: sort of become a I don't know if he's a villain,

1081
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: but you know, people blame him for that loss. What

1082
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: kind of a guy was Ronnie Harmon? And what if

1083
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: any kind of contact did you have with him after

1084
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: that drop, after that tough play in the end zone. Well,

1085
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, he was always uh, you know, Ronnie was

1086
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: one of those guys who was just you know, he

1087
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: was from like New York City, Queens in Queens. Yeah,

1088
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: he was from Queens, and uh, he was always a

1089
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: guy that was kind of kept to himself. You know,

1090
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: but you know during the meetings and doing our practice time,

1091
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: you know, he was hilarious. He was pretty funny, you know.

1092
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: But I think off the field, you know, we didn't

1093
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: get to see a lot of Ronnie Harmon off the

1094
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: field because he was such a private person. Uh you know,

1095
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: he had one really taught me a lot of the

1096
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: stuff that that I learned in the eighty nine years,

1097
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: you know, because he was a great receiver coming out

1098
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: of the back til also and uh, you know, just

1099
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: a tough guy. I can remember him telling stories about,

1100
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: you know, the day of the draft when he was

1101
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,479
Speaker 1: drafted and all these guys were going and he looked

1102
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: at the Buffalo Bills and were like, I know him

1103
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: not going to Buffalo. I just I just know I'm

1104
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: not calling the Buffalo and then they called him. But

1105
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: we had a great relationship even after he finished playing.

1106
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: You know, I would run into him sometimes in Houston

1107
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: that you know, we're talking, hug and you know, go over.

1108
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: You know some of the things that we enjoyed in

1109
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: the Buffalo area. And I thought personally was a great

1110
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: guy to be around, a great teammate. That's one more

1111
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 1: question about that game, thuram It was you had run

1112
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: no huddle before that, but that was really the time

1113
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: when it seemed to all come together, a no huddle

1114
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: offense which became known as the K Gun. Did you

1115
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: have a sense that day, maybe after the game, even

1116
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: in spite of a tough loss in the playoff game,

1117
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: that hey, we're onto something never this offense, we found

1118
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: something here. Did you get that sense of that day? Yeah?

1119
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: I got that sense, and really, you know I got

1120
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: it from Jim Kelly because Jim, you know, obviously that

1121
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: one time, Jim was a guy that was calling the

1122
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: trigger and were pulling the trigger and calling the plays

1123
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: and everything. And I remember talking to Jim, you know

1124
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: later on that night after the game, why he was like,

1125
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: you know what, this is a type of offense I

1126
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 1: want to be in, and I'm gonna try to talk

1127
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: to Marcha Brodon Marve Leavings to continue to let us

1128
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: run this. So, I mean, after that game, you know,

1129
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 1: Jim was lobbying for let's do this all the time,

1130
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it worked for us. So it

1131
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: was something that we enjoyed. Obviously, we knew that we

1132
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: had to, you know, we had to really go that

1133
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: extra mile to be in a really really great shape

1134
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: knowing that we were running that type of offense. But

1135
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, it carried us in a lot of games.

1136
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: I know, Bruce and the defensive players you saw always

1137
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: talking about how sometimes we were striking touring like two

1138
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: and three plays and not give them enough rest. But

1139
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: but that was our offense. Man, We loved running it. Uh.

1140
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: You know when you have guys like John Beebe, James Lofton,

1141
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: Andre Reid, Pete, Metal Lord, Keith mckeller, you know you

1142
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: can put those guys pretty much anywhere on the on

1143
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. You know, they were

1144
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: plays throughout the year man where Andre didn't line up

1145
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: in this reckless slot position and James was in the

1146
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: slot position, and everybody knew the off since it was

1147
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: something that you know, we worked all year in the

1148
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: year out and became part of our program. Now we're

1149
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna ask you too that Bills head down to Cleveland

1150
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: this weekend, and I spent my assertion that there's plenty

1151
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: of fuel for the fire for the Buffalo Bills for motivation.

1152
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: You know, you were the master at getting motivated over stuff.

1153
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: But if I'm the Buffalo Bills, I head down to Cleveland,

1154
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, man, the Cleveland Browns are still getting

1155
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: more attention than we are. We're still getting more national

1156
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: media attention. They're talking about Baker Mayfield and all that,

1157
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 1: and the Bills are way under the radar at six

1158
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: and two going into play a two and six Browns

1159
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: team that's surprisingly two and six, no question, but that

1160
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: for me, that would be all the fuel I would need. Well,

1161
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: you know what, you know what, I had an opportunity

1162
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: to talk to Mike the Hive and I think he

1163
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: said it perfectly, you know, to get apologizing for ugly wins. Man,

1164
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: A win is a win in the National Football League.

1165
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: And what you're doing now, you're looking down there, Yeah,

1166
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: Cleveland is getting a lot of news and a lot

1167
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: of it is not good. But you're going down to leven.

1168
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: One thing you should do, and Central minds that, you

1169
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: know what, let's make it worse for him. No, let's

1170
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: make them be two and seven, and really, you know,

1171
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 1: exclude one of those teams in the AFC that might

1172
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, if if they can the Bills

1173
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: can beat them a pretty much, Cleveland would probably be

1174
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: out of the playoff picture. So that's motivation, right, there

1175
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: to just start eliminating some of these teams that you're

1176
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: getting ready to play and get them out of the picture.

1177
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: And yes, like you said, it's not good in Cleveland

1178
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: for all the wrong reasons, but it's all the right

1179
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: reasons for the Buffalo Bills to go down there player

1180
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: the next year game. You know this is it says,

1181
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: even though the Browns are two and six, it's gonna

1182
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: be a tough game for him down there with the

1183
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: wide receivers. But I think our defense is playing so

1184
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: well and if capable of stopping guys like the Cleveland Browns,

1185
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: because you know, if they don't play well and don't

1186
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: score and get off to get a first downs and

1187
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: things like that, they're gonna hear from the Cleveland fans.

1188
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,240
Speaker 1: Broyl Line with Hall of Fame running back Thurman Thomas

1189
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: says he joined us every Thursday at this time. I

1190
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: want to ask you about last week's Buffalo game, the

1191
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: whatever Washington, Thurmand. But before where we get I want

1192
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: to ask you about a couple of running backs in

1193
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 1: that game. But before we do that, we came across

1194
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: the picture that shows you in Lorenzo Alexander's jersey going

1195
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: to the game last Sunday. You wear a different Bills

1196
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: jersey every home game? Is that what you do? Um?

1197
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: Not every homes game? You know. I've been trying to,

1198
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, have a positive outlook on a lot of

1199
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: the guys that I eventually talked to throughout the year,

1200
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: And just so happened that Lorenzo and I were having

1201
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: lunched somewhere together and his wife Managinique, bought me a

1202
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: jersey because I asked for what I mean, there's not

1203
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: a lot of jerseys over there at the Bill's store

1204
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: that I can wear. I pretty much got all of them.

1205
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: You have everybody, I got about six or seven, you know,

1206
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 1: but yeah, I got about six or seven. You know.

1207
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: It's just something that you know, I did it a

1208
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: couple of times last year, starting with Jerry Hughes. Jerry

1209
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: Hugh was always gonna be like my number one guy

1210
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: every single year, first game or whatever. You know, He's

1211
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: just he's a great guy and a great team being

1212
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: on a great team. And it sounds like a Texas

1213
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: it is a technics thing. Yeah, we hate together. Yeah

1214
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: so then you go put it like that. Yeah, so,

1215
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: but you know, it's just something you know, I've seen

1216
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: you know, Shaq Lawson wearing my jersey Trey whiteheaded on

1217
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: I think last week, And you know what, it's just

1218
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: to show some of these guys, you know, I appreciate

1219
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: what they're doing on and off the field. And uh,

1220
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, I got a couple of more jerseys that

1221
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: you know that I'm gonna be wearing throughout the regular year.

1222
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: It just shows those guys that I appreciate what they're doing.

1223
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, just something I just like doing. Man, Well,

1224
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you too. We've got this Twitter poll

1225
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: we get up and I want to see what you

1226
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: think about it. And the question is this, if they

1227
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: do win on say the Buffalo Bills do win on Sunday,

1228
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: what's gonna be the biggest reason? And the you know,

1229
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: is it gonna be because you know the Browns are

1230
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: just can't get it together? Or is it because Josh

1231
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: Allen's better than Baker Mayfield? Is the Bill's defense that's

1232
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: gonna do it? Or is it something else? What do

1233
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: you think that if the Bills do manage to win

1234
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: in Cleveland on Sunday, what do you think it's gonna

1235
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: look like? Um? I think it's gonna be the defense.

1236
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if you really look at all the games

1237
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: that we've won, all the six games that we've won,

1238
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: the defense has been there for us and I don't

1239
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: see any reason to change that. My you know, defense

1240
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: win championships and they have been better than the offense

1241
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: probably training camp, and they're doing an excellent job. So

1242
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 1: I think with them, you know, like I said, you know,

1243
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: Cleveland has a lot of weapons, man, and uh you know,

1244
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: if they get that running game with Nick Chubb, you know,

1245
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult to stop. And that's been one

1246
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: of the areas that you know, we've had problem in.

1247
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: So I think it's definitely gonna rely on the defense. Man.

1248
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, like I said, they've been They've been there

1249
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: for us for eight games and uh uh for like

1250
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: to have a couple of games back. But I think

1251
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: this offer, this defense is playing so well and they're

1252
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 1: gonna be able to Sean McDermot and les Les Nike

1253
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: Frasier gonna, you know, put together one of those plans

1254
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: many will. They know that they have to stop the

1255
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: passing game and the running game. It has to go

1256
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: has to work both ways for him. So I'm going

1257
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: defense defense issues. First half last week with Adrian Peterson.

1258
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: What did you think of Adrian Peterson's game first half

1259
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: last week? Thurman? Pretty amazing, wasn't it pretty amazing? Yeah?

1260
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: But you know what, Murphy, You know, when when when

1261
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: you look at a guy like Adrian Peterson, you look

1262
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: at like when he first came into the league, his

1263
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: first five or six years. I mean, there were a

1264
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: lot of runs where you know, you can see that, yeah,

1265
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: he's kind of an aging running back. I mean there

1266
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: were some runs where, yeah, he got about eighteen twenty yards,

1267
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: but it wasn't the old Adrian Peterson. And then know,

1268
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: after all those carries or whatever, Yeah, your game is

1269
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: gonna go down. But I thought it was I thought

1270
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 1: it was an excellent performance about him got over one

1271
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: hundred yards or at the age of thirty four, you know,

1272
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: he's been, he's been. He's been a tough running back

1273
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: throughout his career. And uh, but to see an old

1274
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: guy like that, really, you know, I think we're kind

1275
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: of we're kind of leaning in the same boat. When

1276
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: we see Frank Gore, you'll do the same thing. So yeah,

1277
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: so but you know, even though even with that, you know,

1278
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: it was great. They don't know you guys have probably

1279
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: talked about. It was great to see the motive finally

1280
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: get in there and get some plays, and that was

1281
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: something good to see. But I still think overall, you know,

1282
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: you still we still need to keep Frank Gore and

1283
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: still be that guy. I think he's you know, leader

1284
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: on that offense. You know, he's does a lot of

1285
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: things on and off the field well, and he helps

1286
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: a lot of the offensive alignment to do a lot

1287
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,479
Speaker 1: of great things. So, um, one question for you about

1288
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: Motor Singletary. You mentioned him. Um, yeah, we all know

1289
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: he was a good, you know, great college running back.

1290
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: They weren't so sure about his role in the passing game.

1291
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: He goes out there and catches a beautiful forty nine

1292
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: yeards screen pass. That was an amazing play, right, talk

1293
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: about that play and what you saw from Motor there. Well,

1294
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: you know what John, I mean, there's something where you know,

1295
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, obviously he's an explosive football player at that

1296
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 1: running back position and and you just don't want it

1297
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: to be one done them dimensional And I think he's

1298
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: done a great job. But I think you know, you

1299
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 1: can tell that he works on all fasts of his game,

1300
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, running block in catching the ball out of

1301
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: the backfield, and I think, you know, he has to learn.

1302
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: I think he's getting better in order to make this

1303
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: football team a little bit more effective. You know, have

1304
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: me matched up on a defensive back or having me

1305
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: mashed up on a linebacker. So you know, it's um

1306
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 1: it's something that I hope he will continued to work

1307
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: on throughout his career and especially this year because, like

1308
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: I said, with him running those screens and those draws, man,

1309
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: it opens up for an entire offense. They term have

1310
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: you spoken to your boy Drew Brees since he came

1311
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: back from injury. I know that you guys are good

1312
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: buddies and he was struggling with the thumb surgery. Now

1313
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: he's back in the Saints or keep rolling, which is

1314
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: what's his vibe. I actually did threw when he first

1315
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: got back into uh. I guess it was against Arizona

1316
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: a week ago it too and H so yeah, he's UH.

1317
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: Just a simple little text, you know, glad to have

1318
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: you back in the league. You know, you know, but

1319
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: how does it feel, you know, for you to be

1320
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: and I actually text him into it. How does it

1321
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 1: feel you know you're out, you're a leader of this

1322
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: team to keep rolling. And he was like, he text

1323
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: me back, He's like, Teddy Bridgewater is amazing. I mean,

1324
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, we all know the story

1325
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: about him coming back from his injury or what have you,

1326
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,240
Speaker 1: but he said, it's just amazing to see how you know,

1327
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: I went out that the leadership continued to stay there

1328
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 1: in the Saints locker room, especially on the Saint offensive

1329
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: side of the ball. And uh, he said, he don't know,

1330
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: you know where Ted is going to end up, but

1331
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's just obviously great to see him back

1332
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: in the pole and back into the league and doing well.

1333
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: So you know, another Texas guy you know that you

1334
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: know I keep in touch with and um, you know

1335
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: he's uh, you know there are you know, they are

1336
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: one of the better teams in the National Football League.

1337
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: Thurman Timmons in the line of the SERTREMI miss having

1338
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: you in here in the studio. You must be on

1339
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: a golf course, some celebrity celebrity golf tournament today, right, No,

1340
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm not from some celebrity golf tournament. No, no, I'm

1341
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: not man all right, Oh and I haven't ran into

1342
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: any superstars. You anticipated my next question. You can just

1343
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: make those you can make those celebrity sightings up. You know,

1344
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 1: we would never be able to tell that. I don't

1345
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: know if I believe half of them. Anyway, Oh, there

1346
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 1: you go. Now I gotta get now, I gotta start

1347
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: taking photos with these people out. Hey, you've got you've

1348
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: got holidays coming up, your your charity event with your

1349
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: wife Patty coming up. Is how's that going? Ticket sales Okay?

1350
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: I mean I gotta call and get mine still, but

1351
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: ticket sales fabulous. Yeah. I think within another two or

1352
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: three weeks we might be so allowed to see So

1353
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: you need to go and get your tickets. You're murph,

1354
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 1: like I said's gonna be Decenter thirteenth on a Friday.

1355
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: You know where you know it? It's more you know

1356
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: about the family foundation. But you know my my family

1357
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 1: likes to have a lot of fun. So we're gonna

1358
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: do a limited amount of auctions. We're gonna be having.

1359
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna be uh auctions, having a lot of solid

1360
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: auctions with a lot of jerseys this year, UH mostly

1361
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: running backs, and uh we're gonna do a couple of

1362
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: life auctions and that's gonna be it. You know, It's

1363
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: just it's gonna be really uh, just a party for

1364
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: everybody to show an appreciation that we have for everybody

1365
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: in the city of Buffalo and what we're doing. Thurman

1366
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: Thomas Family Foundation of Holidays. Five weeks away, Friday, December thirteenth,

1367
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: if the atrium at ECC City Campus and get moving,

1368
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: if you want to get tickets said, it's selling out, Thurham,

1369
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: come out in next week. We need to see every

1370
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 1: once in a while. Thank you, I know, buddy, I'll

1371
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 1: try to make it in next week. All right, all right,

1372
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: Thurm thanks Thurman Thomas. Sorry fame running back joining us.

1373
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't think Thurman laughs is hard at my jokes

1374
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: when he's not here. When he's here, he's the greatest

1375
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: audience in the world. Right, he'll laugh at anything you say.

1376
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: He's the greatest audience in the world. Yeah. Was he

1377
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: always like that? No, I gotta say no to that.

1378
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: He was a little flinty as a player. He was right,

1379
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: you remember, I do remember that. I love the guy.

1380
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: I've been friends with him since well since we dropped

1381
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, and so he is. And that's great

1382
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 1: to see too. He has come. You know, those guys

1383
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: like him, Jim Bruce, James Lofton, are you know Andre,

1384
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 1: These guys, they they get into the Hall of Fame,

1385
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: and man they have it has really really become a

1386
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: big part of their lives. And you could just tell

1387
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: when Therm win the Hall of Fame, all that that

1388
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: huge chip on his shoulder just fell off, right and

1389
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: all those kippy things he used to do to kind

1390
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: of note motivate him, just like he didn't have to

1391
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 1: prove anything to anybody else anymore. It's just you could

1392
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: just tells a big sigh or relief for him. And

1393
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: it is such a such a great thing to see

1394
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: a witness. It was great to see obviously deserved. I

1395
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: should have gone in his first ballot, And Patty was

1396
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 1: kind of poking fun at him, like he's such a

1397
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: mess because he didn't, you know, because he had to

1398
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 1: go through another year of eligibility before he got in.

1399
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: But man, oh man, it's great to see him. He's

1400
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: he's a treasure here in Western New York. Thank them

1401
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: for joining us on Thursdays. Take a phone call here

1402
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: Bib and Orchard Park, Collo, Bob, Welcome to the show, Hey,

1403
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: John and Dust. Steve nice talking to you guys again. Uh,

1404
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: I gotta throw him something out here. Might be a

1405
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: little troversial, but you've had kind of a quiet show today,

1406
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: so maybe we can spice. Thanks you're looking out for

1407
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: the show, Bob. Thanks, go ahead, Bob, pick us up.

1408
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: What I was gonna say was, what do you guys think?

1409
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: Do you think that the coaches have rained in Josh

1410
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: Allen a little bit too much the past few games?

1411
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: Over the early part of the season. I mean, he

1412
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: was throwing the ball all over, getting long balls down

1413
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 1: the field and that, but the interceptions were a problem.

1414
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: Now the interceptions are gone, but the offensive production seems

1415
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: to be down as well. If you take away what

1416
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: Singletary did last week, the offensive production has struggled, and

1417
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the coaches have rained in Josh Allen

1418
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: a little bit too much. I don't think so, Bob.

1419
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what Murph thinks. I don't think they

1420
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: have because I think the offense particular, guy like with

1421
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,440
Speaker 1: you know, you can't subtract what Devin Singletary is allowed

1422
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: to do. And I think when you take when you

1423
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 1: rain Josh in, you open up opportunities for Cole Beasley,

1424
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 1: John Brown, Dawson Knox, and Devin Singletary and Frank Gore.

1425
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: The job of Josh Allen is to distribute to the

1426
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 1: football to guys in space. The better he does that,

1427
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: the better the offense is gonna be. And if it

1428
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: the only time you really want him doing all that

1429
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: stuff that you talked about, like running down the field,

1430
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: all that is in desperation or you know, if everything

1431
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 1: breaks down, and even when he breaks down, you want

1432
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: him to kind of throw the football down the field

1433
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: rather than try to run it and take hits at

1434
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 1: the end of it and all that. You'd rather have

1435
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: him be able to buy time with his legs and

1436
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 1: throw the ball off the page rather than going in

1437
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: and busting through for a six yard gain at the

1438
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: end of it. So I think they're raining There's no

1439
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 1: question they are raining him in. But I think they're

1440
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 1: doing it in just the right way. And I think

1441
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: we're seeing maybe, and I get what you're saying, maybe

1442
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: the pendulum of Josh running around and all that has

1443
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: swung back the other direction a little bit, but I

1444
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: think it's kind of right where you want to see it.

1445
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: I think we need more out of the passing game.

1446
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: I think we need to have Josh see things a

1447
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: little better, get rid of the ball a little quicker,

1448
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: a little more timely, and I think we will. But

1449
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: I think he needs to see more defenses and get

1450
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 1: more game reps and have more games under his belt,

1451
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: and get some repeat teams that he can look at

1452
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 1: what they did and remember how they did it and

1453
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: be ready, be more ready for them. So I know,

1454
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't think they've rained him in too much. I

1455
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: think for me, I think they're doing it right on schedule,

1456
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: and that's part of their plan for his development. I

1457
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: don't think they've rained him in. I think the weathers

1458
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: rained him in the last two home games have been

1459
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: tough to pass the ball. He had thirty four pass

1460
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: attempts in the loss against Philadelphia, mostly because they were

1461
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 1: training coming from behind. But you know, I think they've

1462
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: gone deep more the last few games, and they tried

1463
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: to early on. That's not raining him in. I think

1464
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: he has run the ball as much as as he

1465
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: did early on. There was one game I can't recall

1466
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: which one, where he had a ton of rushing attempts.

1467
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 1: I suppose I can look that up, but no, I don't.

1468
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so I think, look, they don't want

1469
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 1: him turn in and over, and I think they've been

1470
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: planted that in him, and I think it's that's worked.

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Speaker 1: They do not want they can't handle the turnovers. He

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Speaker 1: had eight rushing attempts the last two games at the Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: The plan has worked. You know. The turnovers are gone now,

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Speaker 1: not to say they're gone forever. He's due quite frankly,

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Speaker 1: but he's got eighty nine consecutive past attempts without an interception, Throne.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what you're looking for from um. I

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01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: don't think they've ranged him in. I think the weather

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01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: has played a factor in their passing game the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks. And I think they want to still expand

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Speaker 1: I think you're the guy who coined the phrase how

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Speaker 1: much they got under the hood. They got a ton

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Speaker 1: of offense under the hood that they're they're trying to

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Speaker 1: get to and it's been it hasn't been consistent yet.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll get there though. And here's the thing too,

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Speaker 1: And without having talked to Brian day Ball or any

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Speaker 1: of that, I think there's no They've called Josh Allen's

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Speaker 1: number in the run game deliberately, and I think They're

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Speaker 1: going to continue to do that because I think they're

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Speaker 1: getting feedback from their own defensive guys and for what

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Speaker 1: they see about other teams. They get a lot of

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Speaker 1: benefit from making sure teams have to prepare for a

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Speaker 1: running quarterback. It takes a little starch out of the

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Speaker 1: pass rush if you're not sure the quarterback's gonna stand

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Speaker 1: back there and throw it, or if he's gonna run.

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Speaker 1: Even if they go empty, all of a sudden, you're

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Speaker 1: the running game's not off the table. So they got

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Speaker 1: to think about that when they're in those set with

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Speaker 1: those spread formations. So I think their raining Josh in

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Speaker 1: but and ultimately they want and I think ultimately this

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Speaker 1: is the right way to go. Ultimately, you gotta have

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Speaker 1: a guy that can stand in the pocket and make

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Speaker 1: with throws. Every team needs that when you get to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's the way the game is structured. That's

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01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: the way the rules are called. Now, we got guys

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Speaker 1: doing a lot of other things these days. Yes, a

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01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: lot of it though is off the page. And Lamar Jackson,

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01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: even Josh Allen, Russell, Wilson, Kyler Murray, all these guys

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Speaker 1: running these offenses where the quarterbacks part of the running game.

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01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,919
Speaker 1: It's all well and good, but they get added benefit

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01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: with the threat of a running quarterback due to the

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01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: team's preparation the week leading up to it. If you've

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01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: got a quarterback that can stand there and make all

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01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: the throws, that's a more effective way to move the

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01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: football than to have him tuck it under his arm

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01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: and carry it like a loaf of bread down the field.

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01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: It's just more effective because the defense has to guard

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01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: eleven guys, not just one. We're gonna take a break. Hey,

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Speaker 1: you can weigh in on our Twitter poll. If the

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Speaker 1: Bills went on Sunday, what will be the biggest factor?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? That's our Twitter poll and you

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Speaker 1: can vote on the Twitter poll. We got seventeen hundred

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Speaker 1: votes in already. That's a lot. If the Bills went

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Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Browns, what will be the biggest factor?

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Speaker 1: The biggest reason? Fifty nine percent of you say it'll

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01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 1: be the Buffalo defense handles the Browns weapons. Twenty percent

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01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: of you say it will be because the Browns, with

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01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: all that talent, still can't pull it together. Seventeen percent

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01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: of you say it'll be because Josh Allen is better

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01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 1: than Baker Mayfield four percent of something else in mind.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from you eight three five fifty twelve three

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Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty one

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Speaker 1: bills Ive Center Bike Alot of Hell from the Seneca

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Speaker 1: Studio in Archer Park. This is Buffalo Bills raging Hey.

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Speaker 1: Next Monday is Veterans Day and there's a special event coming.

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Speaker 1: The Facebook Live event and Wayne eating contests at Duff's

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Speaker 1: Eastern Hills Mall next Monday, six pm. And Devin Sencatary

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Speaker 1: will be there. Motor will be there. You can buy

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Speaker 1: seats available for purchase at the bar, automatically enter you

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Speaker 1: into the wing eating contests. The winner gets great bills

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Speaker 1: and Duf's prizes. I'll proceeds benefit Western New York Heroes.

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Speaker 1: Next Monday, a Facebook Live event Wing Eating Contests at

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Speaker 1: Duffs at Eastern Hills six pm. Motor will be there, Singletary.

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Speaker 1: We should do the show Steed back on the day

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Speaker 1: we were just radio. We do four or five shows

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01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: a year from Duff's, various Duffs really different locations. They

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Speaker 1: bring your food, yes, those that's a lot. That's when

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Speaker 1: the show. That's really right. It was great I get you.

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Speaker 1: We had fun with that. Hey, if the Bills win Sunday,

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01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 1: what will be the biggest reason. That's our question of

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Speaker 1: the day. We're waiting for your responses. Eight three fifty

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Speaker 1: to three eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty

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Speaker 1: Go to Jim and Rochester with an answer on this. Jim,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with us, Hey, Murf Steve, Hi,

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01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: my uh, I would be uh oh. First of all,

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01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: burp um with your sign of stuff. Man, take fifty

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01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: milligrams and zinc every day. You'll be good anyway, rite

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01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: that down as far as the uh the poll goes,

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Speaker 1: I would be the other category, um, main reason being,

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Speaker 1: and Murphy'll know this, Um, the Bills have a team,

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01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: Cleveland has a collection of talent. That's really my only

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01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 1: sentence on that. And I think that's the main difference

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Speaker 1: between the two teams. So you're a big culture fan,

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01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 1: huh yeah, And well that's the thing. And we'll let

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 1: you end the a little inside baseball on the show

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01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: this morning when we're talking about it. We kind of

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01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: started with that and got to the poll we had

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Speaker 1: only because it was a big discussion, right culture, Right,

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Speaker 1: As I said in the first segment of today's show,

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Speaker 1: long term, who would you rather be the Bills or

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Speaker 1: the Browns. I'm taking the Bills. The way they're set up,

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01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: the talent they have is pretty good and we'll get better.

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: The culture is better here. But this we got hung

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01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: up on, Jim, And if you're still on the line,

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Speaker 1: I want to get your thoughts on this. What does

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01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: that culture do on a game day basis? In other words,

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01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: can culture win a game on Sunday? There's the Bills

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01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: culture Sunday outweigh the Browns talent. That would be the question.

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01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 1: What do you think, Jim? I think it can. I

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01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: think it can help. I go back to remember Brandon

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01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 1: Tait a couple of years ago, and now I think

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01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 1: it was a punt return and he ended up out

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01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: a bounding. Entire team came over and was congratulating him.

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01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: That's the first time I noticed that this culture is

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01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 1: is in and everyone on the team feels it. And

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Speaker 1: I think when you have that versus a collection of

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Speaker 1: the talent, it can put you over the top. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what do you think, Steve, with all your years in

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01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 1: the NFL? Yeah, culture, culture does make a difference on

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01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 1: a game basis. In a situational basis, no question, it

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01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 1: does help, for instance, for me, and maybe this is

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01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,000
Speaker 1: why Cleveland has struggled over a month, you know where

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01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 1: it's kind of gone south on him. Now that there's

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01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: other reasons for too, and we were talking about that

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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: in the break too. But when you're in a culture

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01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 1: like the Bills are building here every week, every week,

1596
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: every practice, every meeting is about getting better and doing

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01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: it together and getting better, helping your teammates get better

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01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: and making sure you're they're on task and make you're

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Speaker 1: sure you're on point. The coaches as well. They can't

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Speaker 1: hold each other accountable. The players hold the coaches accountable.

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01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 1: Let's go, let's get this done. When you're in a

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01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: situation like the Cleveland Browns are and it's starting to

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01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 1: come apart, practice becomes a formality and the preparation doesn't

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01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 1: get done as well. You're there to get through to

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01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: the next game, to to get to the you know,

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01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 1: to get through it rather than to get better. That

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01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: starts to erode the quality of your football on Sunday

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01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 1: because the culture doesn't get you ready to play on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: and it certainly doesn't help you come through a tough

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Speaker 1: spot in a game where you need discipline and you

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01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: need preparation to be ready for something that happens on

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Speaker 1: a game, in a game day situation. That's what culture

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Speaker 1: does for you. It gets you to the point where

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Speaker 1: during the week you are preparing for situations that happen

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Speaker 1: in the game. If you don't have that culture, if

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01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 1: you don't have that mentality, and guys are just doing

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01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: it to get to the game so they can get

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01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: the game check the next day, those details fall through

1619
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: and in those situations, you come out on the wrong

1620
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: end of the stick, no matter how talented you are.

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Speaker 1: That's what culture does for In my pants, one of

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Speaker 1: the things of how it's manifested on a game day,

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Speaker 1: it's the game, and I've told you this be true.

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01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 1: The games are won Monday through Saturday, every day on

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01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: the practice field, every day, in the meeting room, every

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01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 1: day in the workout room, in the in the weight room,

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01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 1: in the training room. Getting healthy, staying healthy, preventative medicine,

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01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:18,560
Speaker 1: preventative exercises, preventative rehab, all of that stuff prepares you

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01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 1: to win the game. Sunday is just the results of

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01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 1: that labor. There are teams that don't do it as well,

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01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: and teams that struggle tend to be those teams. Here's

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Speaker 1: what hung us up. I believe I agree with everything

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Speaker 1: you said. I struggle with culture. Trump's talent on an

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Speaker 1: individual game day basis a little bit. But on a

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01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 1: third and two you need some guys exactly. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing about talent, and the Browns are

1637
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Speaker 1: loaded with talent. That talent can rise up and an

1638
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: unexpected juncture and say, whoa that guy can run. Oh

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01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,240
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham just made a one hand and grabbed down

1640
01:18:52,280 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 1: the sideline. Oh Nick Chubb is really good. You know

1641
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: when once he gets to the outside, Oh, Baker Mayfield

1642
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: throw strikes. You know what I mean. It's it's been

1643
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: missing from the Browns, no question, it's been missing from

1644
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: the bounds. And their overall problem is I believe, poor

1645
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: coaching and lack of a team culture. Through the first

1646
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 1: half of the season, it's been missing. And as you

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01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: pointed out when we went to the break, they've faced

1648
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: a brutal schedule. They yeah, they've now they've got six losses.

1649
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: We know two and six, five or four of the

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Speaker 1: teams that they've lost to or listen to this it's

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Speaker 1: New England Patriots. Okay, well you can kind of okay,

1652
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams, Wow, forty nine Ers, and the

1653
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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. Those four teams, those four teams are and

1654
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: you throw the Tennessee Titans, who are four and five

1655
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,160
Speaker 1: on that Those five teams are thirty two and eleven

1656
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: on the year. Those are the best teams in the league.

1657
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 1: They're the best teams in the league. The Rams, the Niners,

1658
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and the Patriots. That's who they've lost to

1659
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 1: along with the Tennessee Titans on Opening Day and they

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01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: lost to him big. Yeah, that's their biggest margin of

1661
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: of loss. Yeah, so you know that's they've been playing

1662
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: a rough schedule, right, that's a factor too. What do

1663
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 1: you think about this matchup of the Bills win? What'll

1664
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: be the biggest factor? Let us know what you think.

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Speaker 1: Eight fifty toll free one eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty Chris and Buffalo's on the line. Hello, Chris,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Are you there? Chris? Oh, we went,

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Speaker 1: we went to Chris. He wasn't there before? Now he

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Speaker 1: was really Chris. Kevin and Rochester on the line. Hello, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing okay? Yeah, I'm doing very well.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Um. I was calling me because I wanted

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Speaker 1: me to say this, Like I used to go in

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Speaker 1: the games and I used to be like, Buffalo, we're

1674
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,880
Speaker 1: gonna get out coached. You know. But with the mindset

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01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: and how y'all talking about the culture change with coach

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01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,840
Speaker 1: Mickey Dan, I don't look at it like that. I

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Speaker 1: look like we got the better coach, we got the

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Speaker 1: better preparation, we have the culture, and with all that

1679
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,599
Speaker 1: factors in, I look at the Browns, Well, people are

1680
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: not talking about the Browns are terrible on special teams.

1681
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: They don't cover punts and kicks. Well, Roberts has a

1682
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: return to the ball better. I think special teams will

1683
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: have a little bit into it, and I think it

1684
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: might be a little rocky. But guess what when they

1685
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: get rocky, we don't fold. I hear you, Steve, your

1686
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 1: coach and your general manager Marvin Bill Paulian used to

1687
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: say all the time, the program wins, the program wins,

1688
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,799
Speaker 1: And I think that's in play here with this Buffalo

1689
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: Bills team right here in twenty nineteen. They have a program,

1690
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: a culture, a program, and I think whether or not

1691
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: they win this Sunday. Like I said a couple of times. Now, overall,

1692
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 1: I think this program has been put in place and

1693
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: is developing and growing with the growth mentality that will

1694
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: lead the Bills to good times ahead. Here's that include Sunday,

1695
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: I hope. So here's the thing too, this there's a

1696
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: certainly and there always has been, and it's always been

1697
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 1: about talent in the National Football League, and it's and

1698
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: it continues to be. Here's here's my something that that

1699
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: kind of occurred to me. One of the things that

1700
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: makes football a little different than other sports. So you

1701
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 1: get take the like the NBA, it's a talent league.

1702
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 1: Is a talent league. You get guys like Lebron and

1703
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 1: a d on a team. You get Kawhi Leonard on

1704
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 1: a team with a you get two or three guys.

1705
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: There's your there's your championship run right. You get two

1706
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: or three that's a talent league. But there's only five

1707
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: guys on the floor at the time, as thirteen guys

1708
01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:35,520
Speaker 1: on a roster um. It's talent based and in football,

1709
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: it is a much more team oriented game. It is

1710
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: much more of of a group activity because there's eleven

1711
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,200
Speaker 1: guys on the on the field fifty three guys on

1712
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: the roster, and other teams have different talented guys as well,

1713
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 1: and how that talent meshes says a lot about how

1714
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna win. So if you you can have a

1715
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: guy like OBJ out there on the outside, but if

1716
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: you've got a poor offensive line and the quarterback doesn't

1717
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: have time to drop back and get it to him,

1718
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:13,280
Speaker 1: Obj's worthless. Same thing with Julio Jones. It's the same

1719
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: thing with se Quon Barkley. If the offensive line doesn't work,

1720
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 1: he can't do it. We spend a lot of time

1721
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: saying how LaShaun McCoy struggled last year behind the offensive

1722
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: line of the Bills, and so did Josh Allen. Everything

1723
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,080
Speaker 1: struggled because the offensive line wasn't good, and now they

1724
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of got that fixing. Now things are a lot better.

1725
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: You can't get it to these other players unless there's

1726
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: a lot of players involved in doing it. That's why

1727
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,600
Speaker 1: culture is so much more important in a game like

1728
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 1: football than it is in other sports like like the NBA.

1729
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: So many guys have to be clicking, and not just

1730
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: clicking on game day, You've got to be clicking throughout

1731
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: the week. You gotta be talking and communicating and practicing

1732
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: throughout the week. The quarterback has to understand what the

1733
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: offensive line is doing, get him checked to the right protection.

1734
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: The offense of line has to has to hold him accountables.

1735
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: They know we can't do that protection. You know, he's

1736
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: got to make sure he knows where you know, for instance,

1737
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: he's got to know where Miles Garrett is this week,

1738
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: and the offensive line has to know that that's what

1739
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 1: he's thinking when he sets the protection. All these things

1740
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: go into it. That's why culture is so important in

1741
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 1: football and Trump's talent on a lot of occasions because

1742
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: of the preparation and the quality of preparation that goes

1743
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: into it. Nope, no, outside of the quarterback, nobody in Newland.

1744
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: Nobody thinks about New England as being this franchise that

1745
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: has been ultra talented for twenty years. It has been

1746
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: a culture that has been different than other teams have

1747
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,560
Speaker 1: done it. Now teams are, you know, maybe starting to

1748
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: catch up, maybe not, but they have done they did

1749
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 1: things differently with different types of players. Certainly they had

1750
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: certain players on their roster that were great, but not

1751
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: a whole roster full. So I think in football culture

1752
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: is really really prominent for a lot of coaches because

1753
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 1: they know how much preparation goes into it, and that's

1754
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: where culture really takes over. I went off on a tangent.

1755
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 1: I was going, Man, we have room for preaching it. Man, Hey,

1756
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. You get to go off on a

1757
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: tangent about beards and mustaches and handlebar mustaches. When we

1758
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: come back, Baker Mayfield, we're talking about We'll talk about

1759
01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 1: this in just a moment. One Does Live presented by

1760
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:25,280
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01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: Nothing comes close. One Does Live Jamer Feast, Team Tasker

1762
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: from our Seneca Studio in Orchard Park. Question of the

1763
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: day the Bills went on Sudday. What will be the

1764
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: biggest factor? What do you think? Call us up? We'll

1765
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: discuss with you. Baker Mayfield'll be a factor in the game.

1766
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 1: He has not played well, he's upside down, touched interceptions obviously,

1767
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: and yet all you know, Rather than analyze his performance,

1768
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: much of the postgame analysis last Sunday when they lost

1769
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: in Denver went to his his appearance, his facial appearance.

1770
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:09,639
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield shaved twice. Sunday, before and after the loss

1771
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,559
Speaker 1: in Denver. Before the game, he arrived there with a beard.

1772
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: During the game, Baker Mayfield had a handlebar mustache. Interesting

1773
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah after Yeah, after the game, he just had a

1774
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: simple mustache. Three different looks same day, Baker Mayfield. It

1775
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,600
Speaker 1: raised a lot of eyebrows, like what's going on? His

1776
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 1: look went viral and he talked about it yesterday. He

1777
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,799
Speaker 1: finally met the media in Cleveland yesterday and Baker Mayfield

1778
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 1: talked about why he had such a busy day with

1779
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:41,160
Speaker 1: a razor on Sunday. Here he goes, the quarterbacks had

1780
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: a November mustache and the original thought for me to

1781
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: the handlebars. I was undefeated before Sunday with the handlebar mustache,

1782
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: so I shaved it off because I didn't deserve it.

1783
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 1: He did not deserve a handlebar mustache. There you go.

1784
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,839
Speaker 1: What do you have to do to deserve a handlebar mustache?

1785
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 1: I guess when in Cleveland, I guess really bad. It

1786
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 1: must be why it's a rare look. Oh that's kind

1787
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 1: of badd fired that off. Yeah, well yeah, if you

1788
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:13,759
Speaker 1: think you're thinking about too many things as a quarterback,

1789
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: if you're shaving twice, yeah, I have trouble shaving every day,

1790
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: don't you do? You shave every day? I'm not. I'm

1791
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 1: almost every other day now, I do. But think about it.

1792
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 1: And you're going in there, you're gonna take on the

1793
01:27:25,439 --> 01:27:28,639
Speaker 1: the Denver Denver Broncos. You're on the road. You get

1794
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 1: up and I mean, you gotta think about what their

1795
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 1: defenses are, your front, you know, your playless and you're

1796
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 1: shaving twice before and after the game? Bro, where are

1797
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 1: your priorities? Well? What are you? Where's your head at? Yeah?

1798
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: You know, because you knew he has to be a thing.

1799
01:27:44,479 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: You knew it had gonna be a thing. Yeah, maybe

1800
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: that's why. Maybe that's why he did it. He likes

1801
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 1: the attention, right, there's no question about that. I'm trying

1802
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: to be fair about Baker Mayfield. I've never met him,

1803
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: don't know him, never talked to him. Um, there's just it.

1804
01:27:58,040 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 1: It's hard to like him. I would say that, isn't

1805
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 1: it from a bar It's hard to adopt him as

1806
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: as good as he was thirteen starts last year, it's

1807
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 1: hard to say, yeah, he's our guy. Maybe maybe you

1808
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: can if you're Cleveland. I don't know. I think he can.

1809
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a bad guy. I think he's

1810
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: actually a pretty good guy. I think it looks bad.

1811
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: Everything goes bad when you're two and six. If they

1812
01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 1: were six and two and he did that, Wow would

1813
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: be great. Wow. He's a great leader. Everything switches. So

1814
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with what he does. I

1815
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: think his teammates like him. I think they rally around him.

1816
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: He's struggling, no question about it. But let's face it.

1817
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Baker Mayfield's a problem. I don't think

1818
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: gob Jay's the problem. I don't think Jarvis Landry's the problem.

1819
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 1: Not their offensive line, not their run defense, not their

1820
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: pass rush. The problem is that the guy who was

1821
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: an obscure position coach twelve months ago is now running

1822
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: a billion dollar franchise for the Cleveland Browns. Freddie Kitchens

1823
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: was not prepared to be a head coach. The success

1824
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: they had offensively with a rookie quarterback last year in

1825
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, they projected forward and

1826
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: thought Freddie Kitchens could do it with the entire team,

1827
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: and they were wrong. They've had a couple of caffs

1828
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,480
Speaker 1: and a couple of game management issues that were glaringly

1829
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 1: glaringly deficient, and I think that's where they're at. And

1830
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: I think it's you talk about all the things that

1831
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 1: cross a head coach's desk. Yeah, he wasn't, he wasn't.

1832
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 1: He wasn't ready for him, and they don't even know

1833
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: if he could do him, let alone give them, and

1834
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: they gave him the job before they did so. I

1835
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,600
Speaker 1: think that's more of the problem with Baker Mayfield, this

1836
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 1: offense and everything else that's going on, plus the fact

1837
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: that they've ran a literal gauntlet of a difficult schedule,

1838
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: All that is conspired to put the Browns where they are.

1839
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it's as much all of a sudden

1840
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,120
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield can't play where ob J can't play. I

1841
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: think they've got a lot of good players, and they've

1842
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 1: had a tough season with a head coach that wasn't

1843
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: quite ready for it and against a lot of teams

1844
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,719
Speaker 1: that were really tough, really tough. If they lose the Buffalo,

1845
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: the Browns they're out. I mean they're almost outing now

1846
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: right and I'm not counting them out. Look, I think

1847
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,759
Speaker 1: this team's probably got seven or eight wins in them Cleveland,

1848
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 1: with the schedule they have second half of the year.

1849
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 1: But if they lose this one, drafted two and seven

1850
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: at home, first of a little homestand for them, they're

1851
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 1: done right for the season. No playoffs for them. Yeah,

1852
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. They've got you know, let me just

1853
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: see the remaining schedule is they got the Steelers, Dolphins, Steelers,

1854
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 1: and then they go Bengals, Cardinals, and they've got the

1855
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 1: Ravens Bengals, So they Bengals twice. They got their schedule

1856
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: eases up, no question. Yeah, but they still got the

1857
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 1: Steelers twice in a month. Steelers, they got the Dolphins

1858
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: and the Bengals and the Cardinals and the Bengals again. Yeah. Yeah,

1859
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: they could put it together, Sure they could. But that's

1860
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 1: why this game is big for them. It's a big

1861
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 1: game for Bills too. We'll talk more about a check.

1862
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,639
Speaker 1: Lawson's going to join us in the third and final

1863
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 1: hour of the show, and we may year from Jake

1864
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 1: Crawford from Cleveland TV. He did their preseason games on TV.

1865
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 1: That's all coming up an hour number three. It is

1866
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: One Bills Live presented by a Lot of Health Live

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01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studio on Buffalo Bills Radio Hills Radio

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01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 1: Network Sports Update. The update comes from one Bill's Drive

1869
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 1: where the Buffalo Bills are just wrapping up there our

1870
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: Thursday practice. We'll get an injury update probably at three

1871
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: oh one pm today. Bills practicing indoors in the ad

1872
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: Pro Sports field House today, getting set for the Browns

1873
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 1: six and two Bills two and six Browns. Bill set

1874
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 1: beating the Browns four the last five times they played

1875
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:45,840
Speaker 1: against each other, Bills on the road. After three straight

1876
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 1: at home, Browns have lost for in a row. They

1877
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 1: lost last week in Denver by a score of twenty

1878
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,240
Speaker 1: four to nineteen, their fourth straight loss. They've scored just

1879
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 1: one touchdown in that game. Cleveland with just seven passing

1880
01:31:56,439 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 1: touchdowns this season total, second humist in the league, one

1881
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 1: of two teams with more of rushing touchdowns and passing

1882
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: touchdowns Carolina Panthers on the other one on The injury

1883
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:09,719
Speaker 1: report comes out after practice for both teams. Sunday's referee

1884
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Speaker 1: is going to be Round Tourboard and the weather Sunday

1885
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: in Cleveland calls for cloudy skys breezy conditions a high

1886
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Speaker 1: of fifty one. Catch the game on our flag Chip

1887
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 1: Radio right here in Buffalo, w g R Sports Radio

1888
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 1: five fifty. I'll call the game. The play by played

1889
01:32:22,280 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 1: with Eric Wood and the booth at Cleveland. Sal Capacco

1890
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,880
Speaker 1: will be on the sidelines Tonight Thursday Night Football. It

1891
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: is the four and five Los Angeles Chargers and the

1892
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 1: four and four Oakland Raiders. The Chargers beat the Packers

1893
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 1: last week, first time the season the team has won

1894
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: consecutive games. The Raiders back at five hundred with their

1895
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 1: win over the Lions in Weeknight. All four of Oakland

1896
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 1: wins this season have been by a single possession. Kickoff

1897
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 1: tonight at eight twenty pm at Oakland, Alameda County Counilseum

1898
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,759
Speaker 1: Chargers and Raiders Thursday Night Football to get the weekend started.

1899
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,839
Speaker 1: Patrick Maholmes has been a full participant at Chiefs practice

1900
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: this week. Chiefs coach Andy Reid says he could still

1901
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 1: play this Sunday. It'd be earlier in than what they

1902
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 1: originally thought when he suffered a dislocated kneecamp in Week seven.

1903
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 1: They're pushing for a return when Kents City takes on

1904
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,880
Speaker 1: Tennessee this Sunday. Washington is the bye week, but the

1905
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: Redskins are expected to start rookie Dayne Haskins after the bye.

1906
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 1: I haven't named him yet, but Hanskins like that to

1907
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 1: make his second career start at home against the struggling

1908
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 1: New York Jets and Hockey. The Buffalo Savers play tomorrow afternoon,

1909
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 1: two o'clock against Tampa Bay. It's the Global Series game,

1910
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 1: one of two games this weekend in Stockholm, Sweden for

1911
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Savers. You pumped up about Savers tomorrow, Steve,

1912
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 1: You'll be on the air for the first half of

1913
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, a little bit, A little bit. Does

1914
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:35,720
Speaker 1: it matter to you and Jones and to see him play?

1915
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 1: I gotta be yeah, yeah. Does it matter that they're

1916
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 1: in Sweden? Is that make it more exciting? Well, as

1917
01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:44,360
Speaker 1: long as I don't have to go, Yeah, it's fine.

1918
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 1: I don't care. It's gonna be nhlies. I don't care.

1919
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: You don't care. Care. No, it's on TV two o'clock game.

1920
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:53,640
Speaker 1: You're exciting about that? Not really, because I gotta you know,

1921
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 1: you gotta work work during the work day. What are

1922
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 1: you what are you doing over there? I have no

1923
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 1: time change, I guess right, I have no for the questions.

1924
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna be watching, Yeah, and we're gonna

1925
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 1: have it on here in the studio and I'll be

1926
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 1: sitting here slack jaw watching that while you do the show.

1927
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: Really good show tomorrow. By the way, we've got to

1928
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:15,640
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Alexander, we got great co sell. Oh, we got

1929
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: Dustin Fox, former Bills defensive back and now a radio

1930
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 1: host in Cleveland. Part of their pregame and postgame covered.

1931
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: So we'll be on the air tomorrow noon to three again. Hey, um,

1932
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: this update from Chris Brown. Sean McDermot just talked to

1933
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: the media after today's practice. Yesterday, they had limited participation

1934
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: from cornerback Kevin Johnson and safety Kurt Coleman, both full

1935
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: practice participants today, So that's good. The builds up a

1936
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: very short injury list. Yeah, that's good. Second half of

1937
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 1: the going, in the second half of the seasoned full compliment,

1938
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: it might be zero right right, everybody's full. Yeah. May

1939
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:55,160
Speaker 1: tell you something totally that's in a subtle way and

1940
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 1: maybe an under the radar way. That's amazing. And I

1941
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 1: don't word you give credit, whether you can say it's

1942
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,840
Speaker 1: luck and you can say that, but you know this

1943
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 1: thing they've got over here on the other side of

1944
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: the world, that big wing of the building that's fully staffed.

1945
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,760
Speaker 1: It must be they must be doing something right here.

1946
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 1: I feel like we should be think about it. There's

1947
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 1: been a ton of hamstring strings for this Bills team

1948
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, yeah, And I'll say it's funny because

1949
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: we lost a couple of guys early in season and

1950
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 1: in training camp to the hamstring stuff. I was I

1951
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 1: was throwing some like, hey, what are you guys doing

1952
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: over here to some of the stuff. They're like hey, hey, hey, hey,

1953
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: because yeah, they're on it um And it's interesting. Really.

1954
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 1: The thought of the matter is last year or maybe

1955
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: two years, the Bills were lost the least meant and

1956
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 1: it was last year they lost fewer man games to

1957
01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 1: injury than any team in the league, and they got

1958
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 1: what nobody today. They got guys taking veteran rest days

1959
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: once in a while, but they got nobody on the

1960
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: injury report. Those guys are back in full and they're

1961
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:57,840
Speaker 1: the only guys that were on it yesterday. Right now,

1962
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,160
Speaker 1: they've lost some guys to injury for the season with

1963
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: with you know, like Jordan Phillips and all that, But

1964
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 1: they don't have all these guys Harrison Phillips, Dragon, you know,

1965
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 1: Dragon wrenching. They got they're healthy. That's pretty amazing. Don't

1966
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 1: you think there's an element of luck good fortune? Well, yeah,

1967
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,000
Speaker 1: there's no, there's no anticipating where a bad injury is

1968
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 1: going to happen. But having these guys stay as healthy

1969
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 1: as they are and as being as productive as they

1970
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,680
Speaker 1: are going six and two, that's that's big. I think

1971
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, Maybe I don't know. What do

1972
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 1: you call a low key contributing factor? No question, can

1973
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: you imagine trying to go through it if you got

1974
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 1: six offensive lineman herd and some of these teams are

1975
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,720
Speaker 1: struggling with it bad. The Bills don't seem to be

1976
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 1: doing that. I don't know. You'd like to say, I

1977
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: hope you can give them credit for that rather than

1978
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: say it's just dumb luck. But now this is the

1979
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 1: second year in a row that they've been that way,

1980
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 1: and it's something to be said for it, right, Yeah,

1981
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: I hope it says that. I hope it's our Twitter

1982
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 1: pull today. It's a good one, we think, and it

1983
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: deals with this matchup. Look, there there matchup issues all

1984
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,200
Speaker 1: over the field. When the Bills play Cleveland on Sunday,

1985
01:37:03,400 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: and if the Bills win at the Browns on Sunday?

1986
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 1: What do you think will be the biggest reason? On Twitter?

1987
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:09,960
Speaker 1: We've got nineteen hundred votes. That's a ton and most

1988
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 1: of you fifty nine percent say if the Bills win,

1989
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 1: it'll be because their defense handles the Browns offensive weapons.

1990
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: Twenty percent of you say if the Bills win, it

1991
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:20,320
Speaker 1: will be because the Browns continue to struggle can't put

1992
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: it together. Seventeen percent of you say if the Bills win,

1993
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: it'll be because Josh Allen is the better quarterback, and

1994
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 1: four percent have something else in mind. Let's know what

1995
01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 1: you think. Give us a call eight oh three five

1996
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

1997
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 1: five fifty, Send it a tweet. We can read it

1998
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 1: on the tweet cheater, or just voting the Twitter pole.

1999
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 1: You've got nineteen hundred fellow Bills fans have already voted

2000
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 1: on the Twitter pole, So that's a lot. We got

2001
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,879
Speaker 1: a good guest just stepped into the studio after practice.

2002
01:37:45,880 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Wind's up here today, happy to have Bills a fourth

2003
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 1: year defensive end shack lawson and student with a shack.

2004
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 1: How you doing? How you doing it? Was great man?

2005
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 1: Great well made it great? Indoor outside in the snow.

2006
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:00,759
Speaker 1: That was kind of great. What do you think you've

2007
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 1: seen it outside? Right? Snow and as you think that's

2008
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 1: pretty or is that bumming you out? Now? It's purt

2009
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 1: Is per It is just the win. It ain't really

2010
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: cold with the snow. It just really be the win.

2011
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, at what point do the coaches start talking

2012
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:14,320
Speaker 1: to you about now you're going on the road here

2013
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: and here's the weather Sunday. If they mentioned that, you

2014
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:17,680
Speaker 1: have to they talk about that much at all during

2015
01:38:17,720 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: the week. Oh, now, we were prepared for any situation,

2016
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 1: you know, Uh, we're we'll go out indoor outside, red

2017
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 1: balls and all that. So anything we're getting on Sunday,

2018
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,680
Speaker 1: we'll be ready prepared. It used to be when they

2019
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: when you go to those games, you know, they wet

2020
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: the footballs down if you're going to Seattle or something

2021
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: like that, all that stuff. But basically it's up to

2022
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: the guys to adjust on game day if it's gonna

2023
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 1: be cold, because you want to be comfortable in your

2024
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,960
Speaker 1: own uniform, right, so you decide what you wear on

2025
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: that day, right, And that's and so that's just like

2026
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 1: a game day decision. How many pairs of shoes are

2027
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 1: you gonna take to Cleveland? So probably like, uh, I

2028
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,840
Speaker 1: really just a couple You don't change, you change. You

2029
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: don't go from like a little to the big shark

2030
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 1: kind of thing in the big three quarters. Oh no, sir, no,

2031
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: So I just keep it the same, keep it the same. Yeah.

2032
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 1: Now why is that? Because I just always I always

2033
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 1: played in the playing the nose, and it depends on

2034
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 1: what kind of grass they got, though. I usually go

2035
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,800
Speaker 1: warm up and try to feel out first and see

2036
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 1: if I need to change my cleats, then that's when

2037
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 1: I change this. But other than that, I want to

2038
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 1: change Cleveland's natural surface too, right, So you gotta kind

2039
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:25,680
Speaker 1: of that's an extra. Did that change anything for you?

2040
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't know it all. Jack Lawson and

2041
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 1: Studio with US Buffalo's first round draft pick a couple

2042
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 1: of years ago, two thousand and sixteen. Half a season

2043
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: in the book Shack fourteen tackles two sacks. How do

2044
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:36,920
Speaker 1: you think it's gone for you? The first half this year?

2045
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 1: And it's going good, it's going good. You know I

2046
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:43,000
Speaker 1: want more? Uh, you know, I won't want to do

2047
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 1: more and contribute more to this team, but I mean

2048
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 1: we're winning so so that matters, you know about this

2049
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,040
Speaker 1: time this time last year was two and six, six

2050
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: and two. It's a great feeling. What more can you do?

2051
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 1: Should just continue to uh set the tone man. You know,

2052
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm a guy to brain, energy, juice U and things

2053
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:04,120
Speaker 1: like that, and it starts off front. So I'm just

2054
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 1: ready to hear to set the tone and bring the energy.

2055
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 1: What about this this as you start this preparation the

2056
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 1: second day of practice for the for the Browns, give

2057
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:18,040
Speaker 1: us a little thumbnailed compilation of summation of what their

2058
01:40:18,120 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 1: offense is all about. They seem to run the football.

2059
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb seems to be having a really good year.

2060
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:23,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Nick Chubb is a great guy. You know,

2061
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:27,400
Speaker 1: he's a great player. And start start with them by

2062
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,759
Speaker 1: stopping the run. You know, they got weapons on the outside,

2063
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, Jarvis Landry and Baker Mayfield. They all big

2064
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 1: threat guys. So you know, we just gotta be on

2065
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 1: key and be ready for anything we do. How much

2066
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 1: you think you you'll get from Kareem Hunt. They have

2067
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:45,639
Speaker 1: him available now, you know what I mean. He'd been

2068
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: out for a minute, so you probably see a lot

2069
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:50,799
Speaker 1: of Kareem Hunt Hunt and you know, he's a physical

2070
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: bat member player when he was in Kansas City, So

2071
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean he's a great back. You know what type

2072
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 1: of guy we're gonna see you against him. Yeah, does

2073
01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 1: it give you an issue when if they decided to

2074
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:01,439
Speaker 1: throw both those guys on the field, what I mean,

2075
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 1: how do you fin I mean, if they put both

2076
01:41:04,240 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: those guys to split backfield behind or back there with

2077
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, that's a problem. They got two really good

2078
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:12,800
Speaker 1: guys back there. Now they can't give it to both

2079
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 1: of them, but you still got to cover them up

2080
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:16,599
Speaker 1: as long as we do. I want eleven and gap

2081
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 1: sound defense, gap control, I mean, we can stop anybody

2082
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 1: that gap control. Gap integer has been kind of a

2083
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: key phrase this week because of what Adrian Peterson was

2084
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:28,560
Speaker 1: able to do, at least in the first half. Was

2085
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 1: last week talk to us about the conversations you had

2086
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 1: at halftime of the Washington game that led to ment

2087
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,439
Speaker 1: just shutting them down in the second half. We got

2088
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:41,200
Speaker 1: back to, like you said, getting during our one eleven

2089
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 1: making sure everybody in that gap. So that's that's what

2090
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: we did. Doing halftime made the change us and the

2091
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 1: second half was a whole different ball game. I know

2092
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 1: he had like eight carries for eight yards. So we

2093
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,680
Speaker 1: all did. I won eleven play gapo gap football and

2094
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 1: the results showed in the second half. But we just

2095
01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 1: got to start off fast fast this week in the

2096
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 1: first half and do it all four quarters check. I

2097
01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:05,719
Speaker 1: was thinking about how that happens in gap integrity, gap control,

2098
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:08,080
Speaker 1: and you say doing in one elevens, do you guys

2099
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 1: try to do too much? Maybe that's how you get

2100
01:42:09,720 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 1: out of your gap, like you pursue or you you go,

2101
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 1: you keep going when maybe you should just sit tight

2102
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 1: for a while sometimes to be that sometimes technique and

2103
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 1: you don't. It don't look such of a big thing

2104
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:24,479
Speaker 1: when you notice. Until you watch Fim You're like, oh,

2105
01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm out of my gap and he just hit my

2106
01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,759
Speaker 1: gap for a big explosive play. So the little things

2107
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 1: like that, man, it's just it's about technique, eyes and

2108
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 1: keys and whatever whatever technique you got on that play

2109
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:38,799
Speaker 1: of zu blix or a stunt, just make sure everybody

2110
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 1: do the technique. That's why that one eleven with Coach

2111
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 1: Preacher is a big thing. So one of the things,

2112
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:45,680
Speaker 1: and for people who don't play football, you're sitting, so

2113
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: you're lined up at your defensive end spot and you've

2114
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: got you know what gap you're supposed to be, and

2115
01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 1: your gap is a gap between two offensive players right now,

2116
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about. So the guy has no

2117
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 1: place to run. So what you get caught up and

2118
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 1: what you're telling me is is for people who don't

2119
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,599
Speaker 1: play football, when that ball is snapped, your gap moves

2120
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,000
Speaker 1: because their offensive players move right, you gotta be ready

2121
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 1: to get there, even if it's going someplace you didn't anticipate. Yea,

2122
01:43:08,120 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 1: the gap move like that, or you're in a stunt

2123
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 1: and you gotta go to a nets gap and somebody

2124
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,840
Speaker 1: else got to replay show gaps. It's a lot of

2125
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,360
Speaker 1: moving apart. So that's why everybody got to be on

2126
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: the same page when you got movements, stunts and things

2127
01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:22,160
Speaker 1: like that. Right, So people think that you guys are

2128
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 1: lined up and that's your gap right in front of you.

2129
01:43:24,160 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 1: It maybe two gaps away. If you've got a stunt on,

2130
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,800
Speaker 1: it's hard to get there or or somebody doesn't get

2131
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 1: back to cover the gap where you're at right, Yes, sir,

2132
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:34,720
Speaker 1: I got you. What about the Baker Mayfield You get

2133
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 1: a chance to kind of track him down? What have

2134
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:38,799
Speaker 1: you seen from him on film, and what do you anticipate?

2135
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:40,720
Speaker 1: What kind of a player is he? You know, he

2136
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 1: gotta like to stand plays, you know, move around and

2137
01:43:45,280 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: throw the ball down to field. I actually played against

2138
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I know he remembered that kind of But

2139
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 1: what you do? I did good, but I got hurt. Yeah. Yeah,

2140
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 1: it was the first playoff game, my last show. I

2141
01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: did all right before I got hurt. But now I

2142
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,639
Speaker 1: always talking to him about that about the game because

2143
01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,360
Speaker 1: when I see him, my brain that up. But nah, man,

2144
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 1: he's a big player guy. Man. You know he's a

2145
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 1: number one overall pick for a reason. Hosman Trophy winner

2146
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 1: for a reason. Though, you know what he can do

2147
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: with his arm and his legs to keep plays a lot.

2148
01:44:14,479 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: So we just got a ride as a group and

2149
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 1: tackle all eleven guys. Shaq, you hit the road. Now,

2150
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,840
Speaker 1: you play three straight at home, and as you know

2151
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 1: now in your fourth year, the season is made up

2152
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: of home and road wins, and this team has been

2153
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:29,560
Speaker 1: good on the road so far. Three and old on

2154
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 1: the road, is there any sense at all? I'm sure

2155
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 1: you probably prefer to be home, but any sense like, yeah,

2156
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 1: let's go on the road. Let's get that whole routine

2157
01:44:35,960 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: going back again, because you're playing what five of the

2158
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 1: last games for this team around the road. Now, Oh,

2159
01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 1: it don't really matter, man. We just treat one game

2160
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,599
Speaker 1: at a time like home away. You can see Tennessee game,

2161
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:47,640
Speaker 1: it feel like a home game to us because we

2162
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 1: had all our fans, so man, just that you know,

2163
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,439
Speaker 1: we got a great fan base. So wherever we try,

2164
01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:55,800
Speaker 1: we know the fans gonna go come and it's gonna

2165
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: feel like a home game us. So I mean, we

2166
01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 1: just take one game at a time and treat each

2167
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 1: game like a one game season. What's unique about this game? No,

2168
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 1: not really. You know, it's like like the game is

2169
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 1: a man whooper, Man up front. That's when it started

2170
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:16,320
Speaker 1: us up front and execute and getting the W on Sunday. Yeah,

2171
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 1: you know you just sounded like when you said that, Lorenzo,

2172
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: he says that all the time for real. Yeah. I

2173
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: think we're a little carry over from coach. Sound like,

2174
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: you can't treat the you can't and strike you can't

2175
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:31,639
Speaker 1: treat the games differently because then one game becomes less

2176
01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 1: important than another, and they're really all important, right, I mean,

2177
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: that's that's the mentality Sir, it's Jack Um, new player

2178
01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 1: up front and your group Corey legit talk about him

2179
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 1: what he might bring to your defensive line. Oh man,

2180
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 1: you know he had a great career alone. He'd been

2181
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 1: in league for nine years plus. You know, great, gets

2182
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:51,040
Speaker 1: some assid in a run. And you know he's a vet.

2183
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 1: So anytime you break a vet him like him, did

2184
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 1: your brain to another weapon to this d line? Man,

2185
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 1: it's it's great. You know, Uh, just talking to Corey

2186
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: for a couple of days, learned a lot from You know,

2187
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:04,479
Speaker 1: he's just gonna have his defense big up. And so

2188
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 1: it's pretty evident that you guys need numbers along the

2189
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,639
Speaker 1: defensive line. What you guys are playing like, you're probably

2190
01:46:10,680 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 1: playing like what forty percent of the defensive snaps, which

2191
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:16,360
Speaker 1: is high, right, But there's a serious healthy rotation up

2192
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:18,720
Speaker 1: right there. Oh yeah, sir, you know that's that's a

2193
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:22,479
Speaker 1: national football or football appear with defensive line. You gotta

2194
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:25,200
Speaker 1: have guys are fresh, come in and be ready to

2195
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 1: go at any time. Jack, thanks for this. Glad you

2196
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 1: had a good practice. Glad you're indoors. Stay in one piece. Yes,

2197
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 1: Jack classon joining us, said, we talked about Corey Legion

2198
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,560
Speaker 1: Corey Elegia met with the media yesterday's first day of

2199
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 1: practice here and talked about getting acclimated to a new

2200
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:44,640
Speaker 1: NFL team. Here's Corey Legit. You gotta get on it.

2201
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 1: You gotta get on it. Uh. And now I gotta

2202
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 1: forget everything I learned in ogen that two months ago

2203
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:53,840
Speaker 1: and learn everything here. Terminology, players, team, I mean everything.

2204
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,719
Speaker 1: He's just it's a whole I gotta reset my whole clock.

2205
01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:59,519
Speaker 1: So for me, it's it's not gonna be hard. I

2206
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,439
Speaker 1: can pick up on it like this, um, but it's

2207
01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:04,519
Speaker 1: something that I'm looking forward to. It's a challenge. Is

2208
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 1: it even come down to small things like making sure

2209
01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:09,680
Speaker 1: you know who the whole the position coach isn't uh

2210
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 1: not really. I know his face now. I mean I

2211
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: sat with him for a couple hours when I first

2212
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:16,320
Speaker 1: got here, so uh him. I know I know the

2213
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 1: position coach pretty well. But it's just a tough thing.

2214
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:20,400
Speaker 1: It's just learning the scheme and then also knowing the

2215
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 1: guys you with and uh knowing when you take a

2216
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 1: chance within the scheme of the defense. You step into

2217
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 1: a defense that obviously is one of the better ones

2218
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,519
Speaker 1: in the league. What do you sign notes one practice.

2219
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 1: But what have you seen already? You know, lining up

2220
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: with the guys out there. Uh, they're physical and they

2221
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna run to the ball. That's one thing you always

2222
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:40,839
Speaker 1: hear from the sideline, and you can hear the players

2223
01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 1: just running to the ball. And they're trying to get

2224
01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 1: turnovers too, So I mean that's important as a defense

2225
01:47:46,040 --> 01:47:48,680
Speaker 1: running to the ball again turnovers. Corey lead a brand

2226
01:47:48,680 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: new Buffalo Bill's defensive linement when we're number ninety four,

2227
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 1: um getting act committed to his new team. You traveled

2228
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 1: that path in your career, right, It was right around

2229
01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:59,160
Speaker 1: mid season when you were a waiver claimed by that

2230
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:03,639
Speaker 1: It was was today November ninth, November seventh, November eighth,

2231
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:05,719
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six, is my first when I got picked

2232
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: oh to thirty three years tomorrow. Wow, the same thing

2233
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,439
Speaker 1: happened to me that happened to Yeah, I didn't think

2234
01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 1: about that. How about that. I just I was reminded

2235
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 1: about that last weekend. I kind of forgot about it.

2236
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 1: But tomorrow is the Friday, the same friday that I

2237
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:24,640
Speaker 1: got picked up off waivers by the Bills from the

2238
01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers. Now Corey was a free agent, but and

2239
01:48:28,439 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 1: I think back about it, I was just thinking about

2240
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:32,519
Speaker 1: that same thing his job now, and I'm sure he

2241
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 1: thinks about it. He wants to do it. He wants

2242
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 1: to earn the respect of the guys in the locker room.

2243
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 1: He wants to feel like he can contribute to something

2244
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 1: they've got going on. I mean, that's his job right now.

2245
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 1: That's what he wants to do to feel good about

2246
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:46,519
Speaker 1: where he's at and the fact that they signed him. Um,

2247
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 1: he wants to come in and earn some respect. And uh,

2248
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 1: there's a couple of ways to do it. Obviously to

2249
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:54,920
Speaker 1: play well, but also to prepare well, to be ready

2250
01:48:55,280 --> 01:48:57,200
Speaker 1: and not to make a mistake. Well, I didn't know

2251
01:48:57,280 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 1: what he was doing here. You know, we should. You know,

2252
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: you got to be on top of that. And that's

2253
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 1: at this level. That earning that respect. To me, and

2254
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:07,560
Speaker 1: I tell my old buddies this all the time, that

2255
01:49:07,640 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 1: was my greatest accomplishment as a player when I came

2256
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,200
Speaker 1: here was to earn the respect of a of a

2257
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 1: locker room in the NFL. That's hard to do. It's

2258
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 1: a tough crowd, you know, and so it's in game everywhere, everywhere.

2259
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 1: Everything you do, the way you prepare all that, but

2260
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 1: you know, you really want to produce in games because

2261
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 1: that's really where they see your value, certainly got You know,

2262
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 1: everybody's can be a practice hero and do great in

2263
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 1: seven on seven drills, but when the game's on the

2264
01:49:33,479 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 1: line or when you're out there and it's a real

2265
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 1: live game, you want to produce for those guys, and

2266
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:40,960
Speaker 1: that's where you earn your respect. And I'm sure that's

2267
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 1: on Corey Legion's mind right now. He because you know,

2268
01:49:44,840 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 1: you parachute into the season. These guys are two and

2269
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:51,320
Speaker 1: six or six and two really playing well, and they

2270
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:54,640
Speaker 1: got a top defense in the league. You imagine he

2271
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 1: comes in and he falls down, you know, I mean,

2272
01:49:57,560 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 1: you don't want to do that. You don't want to

2273
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:02,680
Speaker 1: be that guy. So yeah, I'm sure that high on

2274
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 1: his list is just going out and earning some respect

2275
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 1: from the get go. You were healthy, right, you were

2276
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 1: a waiver claim it wasn't an I was healthy. Yeah, yeah,

2277
01:50:11,800 --> 01:50:14,519
Speaker 1: I passed the physical. Yeah. With Corey ellegiate comes in

2278
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 1: here and it's not like he's has to be a savior.

2279
01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:18,600
Speaker 1: As you said, he's joining the number three defense in

2280
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 1: the league, a team that's six and two that might

2281
01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 1: be viewed as an ideal situation to walk into right

2282
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:25,519
Speaker 1: and and it probably is. And I'm sure this too

2283
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 1: at this day and age back then, they said, hey,

2284
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 1: we want you to come in and we want you

2285
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 1: to cover case for a guy like Corey Llegit. They

2286
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 1: may say, they and they would say things to him

2287
01:50:33,320 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: that they won't say to the media and to us. Yeah,

2288
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 1: they'll say, listen, Corey, we're too soft at the three

2289
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 1: technique right now, We're too soft on the A gap.

2290
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 1: You've got to get in there and hold your ground.

2291
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 1: We need somebody that can do this right here, see

2292
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 1: this film. We need somebody can do this right here.

2293
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 1: We want you to do that. You know, they'll be

2294
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:54,599
Speaker 1: very specific about his role of what they want him

2295
01:50:54,640 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 1: to do, particularly at this early juncture. They're going to

2296
01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,720
Speaker 1: give him a limited range of skill sets that they

2297
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 1: want him to exhibit. And I'm sure when they worked

2298
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 1: him out, they they put him through the paces to

2299
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 1: see if he had in the tank what they want

2300
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 1: him to do on their D line, and and he

2301
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 1: showed enough, they say, okay, we'll give you a shot

2302
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,639
Speaker 1: at and here's what we want you to do. Show

2303
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 1: us what you got. You know, do it on this

2304
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:18,600
Speaker 1: alignment and this defense. We want you to do this

2305
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 1: right here. And they'll show examples of what they want

2306
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 1: him to do on film and he'll that it's up

2307
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 1: to him to get it done. They want to get

2308
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 1: him as as confident in what his role is supposed

2309
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 1: to be as they can get and then see if

2310
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 1: he can carry it out physically and put that on him.

2311
01:51:33,640 --> 01:51:35,600
Speaker 1: Do you work not You can't do anything about it,

2312
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:39,639
Speaker 1: but do the bills concern themselves with conditioning with him?

2313
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:42,800
Speaker 1: And you know he hasn't played in half a season now. Um, well,

2314
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:44,720
Speaker 1: and actually I'm wrong. He was. Yeah, he was up

2315
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 1: until late October. Yeah, yeah, just last week so I'm

2316
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 1: twenty nine years old. Um he was. Yeah, I just

2317
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 1: got released wednsy. What am I saying? I would say

2318
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 1: they feel pretty good about that. They probably tested him

2319
01:51:55,040 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 1: or a little bit of that, you know, put him

2320
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:57,840
Speaker 1: under a stress test or put him on the bike

2321
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:00,639
Speaker 1: or whatever. And they probably put him you know, he's

2322
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:02,280
Speaker 1: probably a GPS thing on him, so they know what

2323
01:52:02,360 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 1: his heart rate and how much work he's doing in

2324
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 1: practice now. But this is a mid season practice. This

2325
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 1: isn't This is like, this isn't like training camp where

2326
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna go out and it's ninety degrees and the

2327
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 1: guy's heart rate's gonna get well up above one hundred

2328
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 1: and one hundred and fifty and he's gonna be out

2329
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:19,000
Speaker 1: there for a couple of reps at that speed, you know.

2330
01:52:19,840 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: So it's it's a little less intense during the regular season,

2331
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 1: so they kind of got to trust that he's going

2332
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 1: to be ready to go take a phone call. I'll

2333
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: tell you this, soft like those hamstrings's been talking about that,

2334
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:32,639
Speaker 1: it's a prime candidate for a guy who's been off

2335
01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: a week or so and to come back and then

2336
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:36,679
Speaker 1: try to ask his body to do something he could

2337
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 1: do three weeks ago, but he can't do it now.

2338
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:40,799
Speaker 1: You know, that's a question. I'm a lying this Cramer

2339
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,800
Speaker 1: from Amhurst. Go ahead, Kramer, you're on the air. Hey,

2340
01:52:43,880 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 1: how are you doing? Guys? Okay, great? Great? I hope Steve,

2341
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:49,680
Speaker 1: maybe you can get me a deal in a pre

2342
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 1: own vehicle, you know, but anyway, I know a guy,

2343
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Cram, Yeah anyway, anyway, Um, yeah, I'm a

2344
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 1: big concer learned about this game, you know. I think,

2345
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, considering that that the Browns have very good.

2346
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 1: Uh good, you know, very good running backs, good backs

2347
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:16,080
Speaker 1: and so forth, like with Kareem Hunt and uh and

2348
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 1: Chubb and everything. I think that's going to be quite

2349
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,759
Speaker 1: problematic for the Bill's defense. And it's a major concern

2350
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 1: for me, considering they have had difficult colties stopping them

2351
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 1: run and I and I heard recently they'd had a

2352
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,120
Speaker 1: new addition to their defensive mind. And I don't know

2353
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 1: how much of a factor. Do you think that will

2354
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 1: be in the next game. They were just talking about

2355
01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 1: Corey Legit and Steve You think he could be a factor, right,

2356
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 1: I think he'll be rotated in if he is indeed active.

2357
01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they've still got guys they can put in there,

2358
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 1: and they've got some rostered margins. They wouldn't actually have

2359
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 1: to put him in there and plug him in. But

2360
01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure a guy who like Corey Legit, who's

2361
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 1: had some success the help, they'll give him a chance

2362
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 1: to get in there and do it. Um uh, yeah,

2363
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 1: he could be a factor. The problem is if he

2364
01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:02,720
Speaker 1: goes in and and this gap integrity that coach has

2365
01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 1: been alluding to, and we spoke to Shack Lost just

2366
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 1: a moment ago about he may not know which gap

2367
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:09,760
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be in, and that's a that's an

2368
01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 1: issue because when you hand the ball to these quality

2369
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 1: backs like Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt, if there's any

2370
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 1: gap that's not manned up, they're gonna go through it

2371
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 1: and then and they'll gash you for a big run.

2372
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:21,720
Speaker 1: So there's an issue there about having the guy in

2373
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 1: the right spot at the right time in the run game,

2374
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 1: not just the pass rush sake. One more call on

2375
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 1: this segment. Let's go to Rick and brock Coort. Hello, Rick,

2376
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air. Hey, guys, the Warrior.

2377
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:33,920
Speaker 1: I've been nice to the Shack with this question I have,

2378
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 1: but I gotta tell you, as well as our defense

2379
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:40,760
Speaker 1: is playing, I looked at some things that could actually

2380
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 1: help us a little bit more, and one of them

2381
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 1: is that I'm wondering where your thoughts are about the

2382
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 1: fact of maybe given Edmunds a shot at being an

2383
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,440
Speaker 1: outside linebacker again like he played in college. Because if

2384
01:54:51,480 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 1: you put him on the same side as Shack and

2385
01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:57,959
Speaker 1: put Mulatto on the other side, and and have Lorenzo

2386
01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,600
Speaker 1: in the middle, it just seems like the media Lorenzo

2387
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 1: gets a little bit more about what's happened in the

2388
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 1: middle of the field and to give him his confidence.

2389
01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you can look at at Edmond's uh statistics,

2390
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 1: statistics and they're they're good, but I think they'll even

2391
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 1: be a lot better with his speed to go around

2392
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 1: the end along with Shack and being able to do

2393
01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 1: these things together, I think is going to give this

2394
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 1: team that much more of a leg up against you know,

2395
01:55:25,880 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks like Brady who have trouble getting out of

2396
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:32,080
Speaker 1: the way of a pass rush. And uh, I just

2397
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 1: wonder if that's another fix. And and you know you

2398
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: have at Oliver and that's only playing sparingly with Jordan Pilps,

2399
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, winning the spot, you know, switching those two

2400
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 1: guys out, because this whole defensive line change at one

2401
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:47,680
Speaker 1: time looks troublesome, and against Miami it almost cost us

2402
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:49,520
Speaker 1: the game. So I just wanted what your thoughts are,

2403
01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 1: and I appreciate you taking a call. And Steve Rick,

2404
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 1: what are you trying to fix? Uh? I just think

2405
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:03,280
Speaker 1: that if you look at means ability to play the

2406
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:06,720
Speaker 1: middle linebacker spot, I think at times he looks a

2407
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 1: little confused still in the second year here, and I

2408
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:12,560
Speaker 1: just wonder if he'd be more comfortable back in an

2409
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 1: outside linebacker position where he'd be able to utilize that

2410
01:56:16,000 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 1: four four speed to get around the end. And not

2411
01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 1: only they have to be able to cover the back

2412
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,960
Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield easier on that side of

2413
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:27,200
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.

2414
01:56:27,280 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 1: I yeah, I'm not I don't have a problem with

2415
01:56:30,040 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 1: the way Edmonds is playing. I mean, I get that,

2416
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, we'd all like to see this team have

2417
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 1: thirty five sacks at this point, but I just I'm

2418
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:40,520
Speaker 1: not going to tinker with this defense very much at all.

2419
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:44,360
Speaker 1: I think I think those guys that study this, the

2420
01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 1: coaching staff and who have coached four and against a

2421
01:56:47,480 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 1: lot of really good defenses, I think they have a

2422
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 1: pretty good eye for what they want to do. And

2423
01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 1: I think the changes that they're making have to do

2424
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 1: with those guys down inside on this defense. With with

2425
01:56:57,840 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips going out, they've started to turn start to

2426
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:02,880
Speaker 1: juggle trying to find a guy to replace him to

2427
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,200
Speaker 1: play alongside Starlotu Lay. So I don't I don't know

2428
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 1: that they believe that it's the linebacker is the issue

2429
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,400
Speaker 1: that they're facing, because those aren't the guys they're tinkering with,

2430
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 1: and I quite frankly, I know they're tinkering, no question,

2431
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 1: but I don't think they see it the same way

2432
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 1: you do. So I'm nothing against your record. I get it.

2433
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 1: A lot of people have thought Tremaine Edmunds, as big

2434
01:57:26,720 --> 01:57:28,080
Speaker 1: and range as he is, he'd like to see him

2435
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 1: coming off the edge. I just think they like him

2436
01:57:31,560 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 1: in the middle because nobody gets to the edge. He

2437
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:36,880
Speaker 1: can outrun people to the edge both edges that way,

2438
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 1: not just the one on he's playing the side he's

2439
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: playing on. So I think they like him in the

2440
01:57:40,680 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 1: middle because he's fast. Because he's long and rangy, he

2441
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 1: can carry it tight end down the middle and it's

2442
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:49,120
Speaker 1: tough to have the quarterbacks throw it over his head

2443
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 1: and get it down inside in front of the safety's

2444
01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 1: hiding poyer with Tremaine Edmunds standing in the way, so

2445
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 1: it takes away an area of the field just because

2446
01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 1: of his size. And as for confusion, I don't know.

2447
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:02,240
Speaker 1: I can't say that. I think he looks confused in there.

2448
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:05,240
Speaker 1: I haven't watched him that closely. I know they got

2449
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:07,920
Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the league, and I

2450
01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna tinker with it too much. Hey,

2451
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more about the Browns. In just a minute.

2452
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:15,160
Speaker 1: Jay Crawford will join us. Former ESPN Sports Center host

2453
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:18,680
Speaker 1: Brown's Preseason TV playing by play announcer Jay Crawford when

2454
01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 1: we come back to give us more on the Browns,

2455
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:22,800
Speaker 1: Come on back with us. One Bills Live, presented by

2456
01:58:22,840 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 1: Kalida Health Live from the Seneca Studio, Seneca Resorts in Casino.

2457
01:58:26,680 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 1: Nothing comes close. Welcome back, One Bill's Live. I'm John Murphy,

2458
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:44,000
Speaker 1: This is Steve Tasker. We're here until three. We're here

2459
01:58:44,040 --> 01:58:47,560
Speaker 1: again tomorrow. You here tomorrow, Steve, Yeah, yeah, yeah, until

2460
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:50,920
Speaker 1: some changes and we got the Bills and the Browns

2461
01:58:51,000 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 1: coming up Sunday one o'clock kickoff at First Energy Stadium.

2462
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm the line with us right now, Brown's Preseason TV

2463
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 1: played by play announcer. You know him from his long

2464
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 1: stint as a host that ESPN Sports Center host. Now

2465
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:04,440
Speaker 1: he's a newscast anchor at w k YCTV in Cleveland.

2466
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: Jay Crawford on the line with us. Hello, Jay, John

2467
01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:09,560
Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve task Repper in Buffalo. Harry, Hey, John, Hey, Steve,

2468
01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 1: how are you guys? Doing great. Well, Hey, is this

2469
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:16,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's team to win six losses? I think they're

2470
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:18,520
Speaker 1: the most interesting two and six team I've ever seen

2471
01:59:18,600 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL. There's just a lot going on there,

2472
01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 1: isn't there. Yeah, a whole lot to unpack. Um. They

2473
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:27,440
Speaker 1: may be they're one of the followings. They're either the

2474
01:59:27,520 --> 01:59:30,720
Speaker 1: most overrated team ever to start a season, or they're

2475
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:32,760
Speaker 1: the best two and six team that we've seen in

2476
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:34,440
Speaker 1: a very long time. And I still haven't been able

2477
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:37,120
Speaker 1: to figure out. Which is Freddy Kitchens in over his

2478
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 1: head My thumbnail answer to that is yep. But there's

2479
01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,120
Speaker 1: there's Again, there's a lot to unpack there. I think

2480
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 1: that you know, look for if you have any coach

2481
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 1: that's eight games into his head coaching career at any level.

2482
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like he's had a career as

2483
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:57,160
Speaker 1: a college coach to fall back on, and this is

2484
01:59:57,200 --> 01:59:59,080
Speaker 1: the first time that he's been the CEO of a

2485
01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:02,800
Speaker 1: football team. And if you go and ask most coaches

2486
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 1: that are that have done this for their first time

2487
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:06,960
Speaker 1: at any level, we sit in your head still kind

2488
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 1: of spinning. And so I do think that we were

2489
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 1: watching it when we turn on the TV every Sunday.

2490
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 1: We see that. You know, he's mismanaging time outs, he's

2491
02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 1: misusing challenges, there's in game decisions that are happening in

2492
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:22,280
Speaker 1: real time at warp speed that you know, he's just

2493
02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:24,760
Speaker 1: getting gobbled up by a lot of it. That doesn't

2494
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:26,800
Speaker 1: mean to say that, you know, he won't turn into

2495
02:00:26,840 --> 02:00:29,920
Speaker 1: a fine head coach one day, but right now I

2496
02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:33,320
Speaker 1: think he should delegate play calling because it's just it's

2497
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:35,880
Speaker 1: all been too much for him. I gotta ask you too.

2498
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:38,040
Speaker 1: And critics are the Buffalo Bills have said, hey, they've

2499
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 1: had a week schedule, or they're not going to make

2500
02:00:40,000 --> 02:00:43,080
Speaker 1: that assertion towards the Browns, They've had a really rough schedule.

2501
02:00:43,120 --> 02:00:46,400
Speaker 1: How much of that playing the NFC West has contributed

2502
02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:49,280
Speaker 1: to their two and six Well a lot. See that's

2503
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:51,760
Speaker 1: very real when you look at strength of schedule. They

2504
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:54,280
Speaker 1: played the most difficult schedule of any team in the NFL.

2505
02:00:55,040 --> 02:00:57,320
Speaker 1: And you know, you look at the games against the

2506
02:00:57,480 --> 02:00:59,200
Speaker 1: two teams that were in the Super Bowl last year,

2507
02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots, after they were gifted seventeen points and I

2508
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 1: mean gifted seventeen points, the Browns outscored them from that point,

2509
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:12,360
Speaker 1: so they they were their own worst enemy in that

2510
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:16,920
Speaker 1: game between thirteen penalties and the three critical giveaways on

2511
02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:20,879
Speaker 1: three straight plays and the game with the Rams, they

2512
02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:24,160
Speaker 1: had the Rams in a situation where you know, they

2513
02:01:24,240 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 1: have first in goal from the two yard line and

2514
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 1: they can't They can't score a game signing touchdowns. So

2515
02:01:30,760 --> 02:01:33,240
Speaker 1: it's not like they were blown off the field by

2516
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:36,960
Speaker 1: the two Super Bowl teams. You know, the Niners really

2517
02:01:37,040 --> 02:01:41,200
Speaker 1: took them to task, and I thought the Tennessee Titans

2518
02:01:41,240 --> 02:01:45,000
Speaker 1: to start the season clearly outmatched them. But this is

2519
02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:48,240
Speaker 1: a team that went to Baltimore and defeated Baltimore by

2520
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 1: more than two touchdowns. So if they can figure out

2521
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 1: a way to stop shooting themselves in the foot and

2522
02:01:54,280 --> 02:01:58,200
Speaker 1: committing stupid penalties and play up to their talent level,

2523
02:01:58,440 --> 02:02:00,560
Speaker 1: I think this could be a team that could be

2524
02:02:00,640 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 1: a fringe playoff team. But you know, they're running out

2525
02:02:02,920 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 1: of time, and if they're going to get it done now,

2526
02:02:05,400 --> 02:02:08,480
Speaker 1: it absolutely has to start Sunday against Buffalo. On the

2527
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:11,880
Speaker 1: line with Jay Crawford, who does Browns preseason games on television.

2528
02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:14,880
Speaker 1: He's former ESPN Sports Center hosts. But we've been talking

2529
02:02:14,920 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 1: about the Browns in this way, Jay, and we're talking

2530
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:19,800
Speaker 1: about all the matchup problems they create this Sunday for

2531
02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:22,560
Speaker 1: the Bills or probably everybody they play there, there's talent

2532
02:02:22,640 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 1: there which at any time could explode to their benefit.

2533
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:28,680
Speaker 1: I would think, huh yeah, when you look at the roster,

2534
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:31,880
Speaker 1: if you're a defensive coordinator, I could understand why you'd

2535
02:02:31,880 --> 02:02:33,800
Speaker 1: be very nervous trying to figure out what you want

2536
02:02:33,800 --> 02:02:37,480
Speaker 1: to take away. But it's been fascinating to watch as

2537
02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:39,920
Speaker 1: I was really curious to see how Bill Belichick was

2538
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:42,720
Speaker 1: gonna defend the Browns, because we know what Bill likes

2539
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:45,240
Speaker 1: to do is find whatever it is that you do best,

2540
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:47,840
Speaker 1: and he's going to take that away. And you know,

2541
02:02:48,160 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 1: I think he decided that Odell Beckham is the one

2542
02:02:51,440 --> 02:02:55,200
Speaker 1: player on that roster that can beat you deep offensively,

2543
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:57,640
Speaker 1: and Bill fook him out of the game. I think

2544
02:02:57,680 --> 02:02:59,760
Speaker 1: he had three catches, and you know, the first couple

2545
02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:02,640
Speaker 1: were maybe for five yards or just a quick hit

2546
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:06,040
Speaker 1: just to try to get him involved. But when you

2547
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:08,840
Speaker 1: look at the depth of talent, so okay, if a

2548
02:03:08,920 --> 02:03:13,080
Speaker 1: team is going to spend double resources on taking ob

2549
02:03:13,240 --> 02:03:15,720
Speaker 1: j out of the offense, you would think that the

2550
02:03:15,800 --> 02:03:18,160
Speaker 1: Browns still have enough pieces that they can make you

2551
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:21,440
Speaker 1: pay for it with Jarvis or you know, at the

2552
02:03:21,560 --> 02:03:24,280
Speaker 1: running back position, now you not only have Nick Chubb,

2553
02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:29,760
Speaker 1: but you know, now you've got another game changing running

2554
02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:32,040
Speaker 1: back that can do a lot of different things in

2555
02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:34,880
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt. I wouldn't want to try to game plan

2556
02:03:34,960 --> 02:03:38,440
Speaker 1: against this offense, but for whatever reason, none of its clicked,

2557
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:41,760
Speaker 1: and maybe throwing Hunt into the mix this week will

2558
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: be kind of the elixir that this offense has been

2559
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:46,800
Speaker 1: looking for. I don't know, Andy, Jay, you talk about

2560
02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:50,000
Speaker 1: Belichick taking away Odell Beckham. There are those who would

2561
02:03:50,080 --> 02:03:52,880
Speaker 1: argue that the Browns have taken away Odell Beckham, that

2562
02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:54,880
Speaker 1: they don't target him enough, they don't use him enough.

2563
02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 1: Is that a valid complaint? I think it's a valid criticism.

2564
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:01,880
Speaker 1: I do, and I think that where Baker is in

2565
02:04:02,000 --> 02:04:05,320
Speaker 1: his evolution, and you know, this sophomore slump is a

2566
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:07,560
Speaker 1: real thing. This isn't something that you know is a

2567
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:12,120
Speaker 1: media creation, Steve. I'm sure you've watched it both in

2568
02:04:12,240 --> 02:04:15,440
Speaker 1: teams that you were covering and played for, as well

2569
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 1: as teams from all around the league. It happens. And

2570
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:22,040
Speaker 1: what we have to look at now is so the

2571
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:26,160
Speaker 1: league has made its initial adjustment to Baker and if

2572
02:04:26,200 --> 02:04:29,080
Speaker 1: you're going to have a sustainable career in the NFL.

2573
02:04:29,080 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 1: It's just like it's just like Major League Baseball. As

2574
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:34,120
Speaker 1: soon as pitching staffs find where the hole in a

2575
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:37,040
Speaker 1: hitter swing is, they live there until you figure out

2576
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:39,400
Speaker 1: a way to hit that bitch or layoff of it. Well,

2577
02:04:39,480 --> 02:04:41,600
Speaker 1: it's the same thing in the NFL. So defensives have

2578
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:45,000
Speaker 1: now made the adjustment to Baker, It's time for Baker

2579
02:04:45,080 --> 02:04:47,520
Speaker 1: to make the next adjustment. And I think that that

2580
02:04:47,680 --> 02:04:52,200
Speaker 1: next step is throwing guys open. So in the past

2581
02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:57,200
Speaker 1: he's looked for separation or daylight. He has to understand

2582
02:04:57,240 --> 02:05:00,320
Speaker 1: with a receiver like Odell Beckham Junior, there's going to

2583
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:03,280
Speaker 1: be times where he's covered and it doesn't look like

2584
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:05,920
Speaker 1: you can deliver the football. You have to figure out

2585
02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:08,000
Speaker 1: what the space is that you can throw the ball

2586
02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:11,080
Speaker 1: to that ob J can get it, but the defender can.

2587
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:14,000
Speaker 1: And I don't think he's comfortable enough yet pulling the

2588
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 1: trigger on those routes and on those plays. And I

2589
02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 1: can understand why he's gunshy. He's leading the league in

2590
02:05:20,120 --> 02:05:22,360
Speaker 1: interceptions and the last thing he wants to do is

2591
02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 1: throw more of them. But you know when Peyton Manning

2592
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:27,440
Speaker 1: came in the league, he you know, was set in

2593
02:05:27,480 --> 02:05:30,640
Speaker 1: interception records and he figured it out. So he's going

2594
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:33,600
Speaker 1: to have to trust that his receiver can go up

2595
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:36,720
Speaker 1: and make the play. Ob J's that's why you're paying

2596
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,000
Speaker 1: him what you're playing him, because he goes and gets

2597
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:41,800
Speaker 1: balls that most guys can't get. You just have to

2598
02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:44,240
Speaker 1: get to the point where you trust he's going to

2599
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:45,880
Speaker 1: come down with it, and you've got to be accurate

2600
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:47,680
Speaker 1: enough to make sure that it doesn't go to the

2601
02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:50,160
Speaker 1: wrong color jersey. All one guy that's been really consistent

2602
02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:53,040
Speaker 1: contributor on your offense has been Nick Chubb. Talk about

2603
02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:57,000
Speaker 1: how good he has been, I mean he's drawn comparisons

2604
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,360
Speaker 1: at this point of his rookie season two things that

2605
02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 1: Jim Brown day and age well, and those are fair comparisons.

2606
02:06:04,240 --> 02:06:05,560
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people when they hear the

2607
02:06:05,680 --> 02:06:08,520
Speaker 1: names mentioned in the same sentence, everybody wants to say,

2608
02:06:08,560 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 1: wait a minute, slow down. But you know, Jim averaged.

2609
02:06:11,640 --> 02:06:13,480
Speaker 1: I think he may be the only back to average

2610
02:06:13,560 --> 02:06:16,360
Speaker 1: over one hundred yards rushing in every game that he played,

2611
02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:19,760
Speaker 1: and Nick's right about there. And I know it's a

2612
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 1: much smaller sample size, but Nick is a guy that

2613
02:06:23,280 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 1: makes something out of nothing. And you know, we know

2614
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:30,320
Speaker 1: that sticks out of every ten run plays. Stutter and

2615
02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 1: small and sputter and stall at the line and they

2616
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:35,520
Speaker 1: may get one, two three yards or whatever. Nick is

2617
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 1: great at turning what might be a no gain or

2618
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:41,280
Speaker 1: even a two yard loss into a three yard pickup.

2619
02:06:41,680 --> 02:06:44,680
Speaker 1: And he's he's able to do that because he's so strong.

2620
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:49,400
Speaker 1: He's his lower half is extremely sturdy. He's got breakaway,

2621
02:06:49,520 --> 02:06:53,640
Speaker 1: game changing speed. And so whenever you have that power

2622
02:06:53,800 --> 02:06:56,720
Speaker 1: and speed mix, that's the kind of guy that you

2623
02:06:56,760 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 1: can feed twenty twenty five times and literally us fill

2624
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:02,840
Speaker 1: in the blanks with a passing game. And what the

2625
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:05,840
Speaker 1: Browns have tried to do is force this notion that

2626
02:07:05,920 --> 02:07:09,040
Speaker 1: they're a pass first team and yeah, we like to

2627
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:12,440
Speaker 1: run it here and there. If they just forget about

2628
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:15,600
Speaker 1: that notion for a second and say Nick Chubb is

2629
02:07:15,640 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 1: going to be the hub of our offense and everything

2630
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:22,920
Speaker 1: we do around Nick is just it's accenting the run game,

2631
02:07:23,200 --> 02:07:25,400
Speaker 1: I think they'd be much more successful. And I wouldn't

2632
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:28,800
Speaker 1: be surprised if on Sunday we see a lot more

2633
02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:32,760
Speaker 1: of a run game between Hunt and Chubb. You can't

2634
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:35,400
Speaker 1: arm tackle Nick Chubb, You're not gonna do it. You're

2635
02:07:35,440 --> 02:07:37,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to get a full body on him, wrap

2636
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:39,720
Speaker 1: him up, and he's probably gonna drag you two or

2637
02:07:39,760 --> 02:07:45,760
Speaker 1: three yards. So they're infatuated, like most offensive coordinators are,

2638
02:07:45,880 --> 02:07:49,000
Speaker 1: with the thought of the home run ball and moving

2639
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 1: the ball through the air. But personally, I'm a believer

2640
02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:56,920
Speaker 1: of establishing a ground game and the passing game will

2641
02:07:57,000 --> 02:08:00,400
Speaker 1: open up as a result of it. And I hope

2642
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:05,240
Speaker 1: that the Browns adopt that mentality sooner than later, because

2643
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:08,720
Speaker 1: it got late, real early this season and they're literally

2644
02:08:08,880 --> 02:08:11,720
Speaker 1: at a point now where they're you know, if you

2645
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:14,160
Speaker 1: do the math and you've projected out, the room for

2646
02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 1: air is gone. They likely will have to win out

2647
02:08:18,200 --> 02:08:21,160
Speaker 1: or go seven and one from here to be in

2648
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:24,600
Speaker 1: the playoff discussion. And I don't know that. I think

2649
02:08:24,640 --> 02:08:27,560
Speaker 1: there's only been one two and sixteen make the playoffs,

2650
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:30,160
Speaker 1: and that was like the nineteen seventy Bengals or something.

2651
02:08:30,640 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 1: It's so when you're at this point of the season,

2652
02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:36,560
Speaker 1: you know you're looking for your parachute, and I think

2653
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:39,320
Speaker 1: they just have to go to what they do best

2654
02:08:40,080 --> 02:08:43,280
Speaker 1: and maybe the passing game can develop off that Jay

2655
02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 1: lasting we have for you, it goes back to the

2656
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:48,480
Speaker 1: big picture. I guess. You know. Part of the problems

2657
02:08:48,520 --> 02:08:50,360
Speaker 1: I guess perception wise with the Browns is that so

2658
02:08:50,520 --> 02:08:53,080
Speaker 1: much was expected. There was so much hype going into

2659
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:55,880
Speaker 1: the season, and I just wondered, from your perspective, where

2660
02:08:55,920 --> 02:08:57,920
Speaker 1: did that come from? Where the Browns pushing that? Was

2661
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 1: that the Cleveland media thing was a national How do

2662
02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:02,920
Speaker 1: everybody figure the Browns are going to be Super Bowl

2663
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:05,520
Speaker 1: contenders this year? So I'll put it in a way

2664
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:08,200
Speaker 1: that you may be able to kind of put your

2665
02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:12,240
Speaker 1: mind around it. You're you're walking through the desert and

2666
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:15,800
Speaker 1: you've been walking through the desert for thirty years, and

2667
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:19,600
Speaker 1: you haven't had a drink of water, and you look

2668
02:09:19,720 --> 02:09:22,440
Speaker 1: up ahead and for the first time it looks like

2669
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:26,440
Speaker 1: there's water on the ground, and you can't get there

2670
02:09:26,520 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 1: soon enough, and you think that finally you're going to

2671
02:09:30,160 --> 02:09:32,920
Speaker 1: get to take a drink, and then you get there

2672
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 1: and you find out that it's a mirage our mind.

2673
02:09:35,480 --> 02:09:37,880
Speaker 1: This is where Browns fans are. Our minds are in

2674
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:42,280
Speaker 1: a perpetual state of playing tricks on us. So we

2675
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:45,840
Speaker 1: want this team to be good. And we saw what

2676
02:09:46,000 --> 02:09:49,320
Speaker 1: happened at the end of last year where they finished

2677
02:09:49,600 --> 02:09:53,720
Speaker 1: seven eight and one, and coming off an oh and sixteen,

2678
02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 1: we were like, okay, so that's a plus seven. If

2679
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:59,839
Speaker 1: we can be a plus four next year, that's eleven.

2680
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:03,160
Speaker 1: And that gets you into the conversation. And then you

2681
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:07,480
Speaker 1: add pieces like Olivier Vernon on defense and Sheldon Richardson

2682
02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:11,600
Speaker 1: and OBJ and you get Kareem Hunt to accent the

2683
02:10:11,720 --> 02:10:14,240
Speaker 1: run game and Chubb is in year two and you

2684
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:17,280
Speaker 1: think you've got the quarterback piece figured out. It was

2685
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:19,640
Speaker 1: easy to do that math and come up with the

2686
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:21,720
Speaker 1: answer that hell, yeah, we're going to be relevant. Why

2687
02:10:21,720 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't we be? And I think the national media took

2688
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:28,120
Speaker 1: the bait too, because they saw the same signs we did.

2689
02:10:28,320 --> 02:10:32,840
Speaker 1: You know, a strong finished last year. But it's so funny,

2690
02:10:33,080 --> 02:10:35,560
Speaker 1: like sometimes time and distance has a way of clearing

2691
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:39,000
Speaker 1: things out. At the time when the Browns named Freddie

2692
02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:42,520
Speaker 1: the head coach, I had real concerns about it, but

2693
02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:46,480
Speaker 1: they were quickly squashed by the notion that you don't

2694
02:10:46,520 --> 02:10:49,160
Speaker 1: trust your eyes. Freddie called the players the back half

2695
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:53,760
Speaker 1: of the season and this team looked fantastic, So he's ready.

2696
02:10:54,200 --> 02:10:58,480
Speaker 1: But now we're you know, six losses removed from that thinking,

2697
02:10:58,880 --> 02:11:01,800
Speaker 1: and it's not so conventional anymore because I put it

2698
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:07,200
Speaker 1: to people this way. When your rookie head coach plays

2699
02:11:07,240 --> 02:11:11,840
Speaker 1: a huge role in naming the franchise's next head coach

2700
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:15,600
Speaker 1: and he's had no head coaching experience, there should be

2701
02:11:15,680 --> 02:11:19,280
Speaker 1: red flags all around that scenario, and we missed all

2702
02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:22,640
Speaker 1: of them because we wanted it to work. Like I said,

2703
02:11:22,720 --> 02:11:24,760
Speaker 1: the most interesting two and six team I've ever seen

2704
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:28,720
Speaker 1: than this. Guys, you back, good luck Sunday. Thank you.

2705
02:11:29,080 --> 02:11:31,960
Speaker 1: Jack Crawford is the Browns preseason television play by play

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2707
02:11:35,080 --> 02:11:37,320
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame running back Thurman Thomas on the line

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Speaker 1: with us about an hour and a half ago, and

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Speaker 1: Thurman had some thoughts on Devin Singletary's performance and to

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Speaker 1: win against Washington. Here's Thurma. You know, obviously he's an

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Speaker 1: explosive football player at that running back position and and

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Speaker 1: you just don't want it to be one dimensional on

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Speaker 1: and I think he's done a great job. And I

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Speaker 1: think you know, you can tell that he works on

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Speaker 1: all fasts of his game, you know, running block in

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Speaker 1: catching the ball out of the backfield, and I think

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Speaker 1: you know, he has to learn. I think he's getting

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Speaker 1: bet in order to make this football team a little

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Speaker 1: bit more effective. You know, have we matched up on

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Speaker 1: a defensive back or have me matched up on a linebacker?

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's something that I hopefully has

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Speaker 1: continued to work on throughout his career and especially this

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Speaker 1: year because I can say with him running those screens

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Speaker 1: and those draws, man, it opens up for an entire offense.

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Speaker 1: They need to get offense going, Steve, They're gonna need

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Speaker 1: everything they're gonna go to. The Bills are gonna need

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Speaker 1: to play well on both sides of the ball and

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Speaker 1: special teams to get out of Cleveland with a win

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Speaker 1: despite the record. Do you look at the record. You

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Speaker 1: say at doing six, we got this well not so fast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot about this game that

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Speaker 1: is dangerous for the Buffalo Bills. Forget about those records.

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Speaker 1: The Browns know that this is their last gas, last

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Speaker 1: best opportunity to get it back on track, and then

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Speaker 1: you know, you win this one and you can get

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Speaker 1: a little something going. You're gonna have to win some

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Speaker 1: big games down the stretch. But this is a team

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Speaker 1: that's I think they're gonna be desperate. You can never

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Speaker 1: count on a team to show up and not want

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Speaker 1: to play. These guys are gonna want to play. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna show up and do it. Talk more about it

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Speaker 1: tomorrow with Noon and our production assistants George Blast, Steff

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Speaker 1: Coltnick Thomas, Hollalder, Kelly Rude, j J. Turito, Kevin Cartis,

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Speaker 1: James robol Our producer Jay Harris will seating tomorrow at

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