WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Howling II 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.479 Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.720 Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema. My name is Rob. 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:17.680 Lamb and I am Joe McCormick. 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.599 And today's Weird House Cinema selection is, Oh, this is 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.360 just b movie caviare I don't know. I don't know 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:27.280 what you thought of a joke. You had seen it previously, 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:29.840 if I'm not mistaken. I watched it for the first 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:31.880 time in the last couple of weeks. Watched it on 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:36.159 an airplane, and I was just overwhelmed by the glory 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.159 of howling to your Sister is a Werewolf from nineteen 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:39.680 eighty five. 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:42.840 I had seen it before, but didn't remember a lot 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.199 about it. This is one I think I kind of 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:49.080 watched in the early twenties haze of just like I'd 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.840 go with my friend to the local you know, used 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:54.680 book d CD and DVD store, and we'd get like 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:59.480 an armload of ninety nine cent bad DVDs and just 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.280 kind of watch them one after another. And this was 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.040 one of those. I remember a few things about it. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.560 I remember it being weird. I think I remembered Christopher 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.399 Lee's bizarre outfit in the scene where he goes to 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.440 the club, which we'll have to talk about later, and 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:20.600 it's hard to forget the vibes of Sybil Danning presiding 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:24.679 over the rituals in the film. I much commented upon 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.440 kind of aura this movie has. In fact, in his 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:31.400 one star review of this film, Roger Ebert singled out 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:36.160 the Sybil Danning's ability to preside over rituals as one 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.440 of the best things about the movie. And I have 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.679 to agree there certainly one of the most memorable things 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:41.080 about it. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.480 Yeah. I don't think he completely liked the film, but 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:48.280 he certainly liked her performance in it. And I don't 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.280 know you can tell when Ebert. Sometimes Ebert would give 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:53.440 a review like this, and you know it'd be a 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.400 low star rating, but you could tell he loved it. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.880 Yeah, this was one of those. It's like, objectively, I 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.160 must say it is a bad film, but most of 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:03.160 what he had to say about it seemed kind of 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:04.640 amused and pleased. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.800 Yeah, yeah, because it is. This one's rough around the edges. 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:13.239 It is you know, it's definitely lower budget, but it's 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.960 it's trying really hard. It's throwing everything at the wall, 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:18.720 it's laying in its teeth it's thrashing its head from 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.959 side to side, and it refuses to let go. H 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.120 that's that's Howling too, That's it, that's its vibe. It's 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:28.760 a new wave horror party and all the werewolves are invited. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:34.959 It is. I think this movie would be more remembered 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:38.840 for its weirdness if it were not directly followed by 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:43.600 Howling three the Marsupials, which is perhaps even weirder. It's 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:47.560 almost like, uh, this movie, this movie would be more 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:52.040 of a beacon of absurdity if not having if not 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:54.000 for having been immediately one opt yeah. 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.320 Yeah, same director came back, Phelipe Mora, who will talk 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.160 about it in a minute, came back and made the 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:03.240 Howling three, doubling down on all the weirdness, making it 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:07.800 a firmly assy weird film and in a way that yeah, 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.320 really and it almost kind of overshines the genuine weirdness 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.040 of this picture. But yeah, but Howling two is not 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:18.440 to be overlooked, at least if your taste aligns with 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:23.320 ours when it comes to B films. So The Howling 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.560 two is, of course a sequel to the nineteen eighty 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.640 one Joe Dante film The Howling, which I believe we 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.160 both watched almost in tandem not too long ago. I 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.280 think we were talking about covering it for Weird House 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.760 Cinema and then we kind of moved on to something else. 0:03:36.800 --> 0:03:40.200 And I think it's largely because The Howling is a 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:44.640 really solid werewolf movie with amazing special effects, some great 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:48.960 practical special effects, and it also has some Joe Dante 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.440 Looney Tunes weirdness in there and you know, kind of 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:55.760 like appropriate brushstrokes, solids of humor. Yeah, a great sense 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.880 of humor in the correct balance, solid cast, solid w 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:03.040 one writing, incredible practical world effects, like I said, and 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.400 all that for a two million dollar budget. So in 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.960 a way it was like great film, but not necessarily 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:15.320 the greatest Weird House Cinema selection. But The Howling definitely made, 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:17.800 but made a box office splash, made a lot of money, 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:21.799 entertained a lot of people, certified hit, and again solid 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.720 monster film that I would say balance is a kind 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.720 of kind of like, on one hand, psycho sexual aspirations 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.719 alongside those again sort of looney tune Joe Dante moments 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:35.800 that you've come to expect from his filmography and the effects. Again, 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.400 the effects alone on the Howling give it a special 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.640 place in horror history. You have those Rob Boteine effects 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.600 that are just amazing, very good. So Howling two follows 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.000 up on all of this. It's going to continue the party, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.440 but with a small still a small budget. I think 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.840 it's one of these cases where the budget's technically larger, 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.040 but when you you know year to year, it's maybe 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:01.760 a little bit lower. In this time, there's no Joe Dante, 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.040 he'd moved on to direct Grimlins, no script doctoring from 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:10.800 John Sales this time, and also you don't have Rob 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.039 Botein doing his special effects. Now, those special effects in 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.479 Howling To are still great, with a number of caveats, 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.320 a number of limitations because for the most part they're 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:24.279 shooting far from the Hollywood home base. Here, effects and 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:28.960 props were boxed up sent to then Czechoslovakia for the 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.279 majority of the shoot. I was actually watching some extras 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:33.560 on the Blu Ray that I'm going to reference here 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:36.760 in a minute, an interview with Steve Johnson, who we've 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.039 talked about on the show before he was There are 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.919 a number of talented affects people on Howling To, but 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.440 Steve Johnson was the guy that they sent to out 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.919 in the field to the then Czechoslovakia set and the 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.479 locations to make everything happen, to open up boxes that 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:57.960 had been shipped from from Hollywood with props and effects 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:01.000 pieces that had in many cases not and completed yet 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.400 or famously at least, the allegation is that some of 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:10.040 the werewolf costumes were actually just leftover ape costumes from 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.960 the Planet of the Apes television series and they're like, here, 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.680 you go, do your best with it. And luckily you 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:20.119 had some very scrappy effects guys out in the field 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.280 who were up for the challenge, and they're like, all right, 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.080 let's finish these things. Let's put it together. Let's make 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:26.200 it work with what we got. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.280 Yeah. I don't know what score you would get if 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:34.640 you were just looking at the werewolf costumes and makeup 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.839 effects in the movie in full direct lighting and getting 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:39.640 a really good look at them, the way that you 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.159 do get a good look at the werewolf effects in 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:46.640 the original Howling, but the way the movie deploys them, 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.480 I think you end up with with kind of a 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:53.080 B plus on makeup effects here, because usually you are 0:06:53.120 --> 0:06:56.640 not getting a good square look at the at the costumes. 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:00.000 There will be a lot of use of shadow of obscures, 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.559 your you know, obscure furry silhouettes coming through the trees 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.640 and stuff, some of which actually look quite nice. Overall, 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:11.280 the movie is not a masterclass in cinematography, but occasionally 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.280 there was a shot where I was like, well, that 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:14.600 looks great, that's spooky. 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:14.920 Yea. 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.640 I'm thinking particularly of some of the use of the 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:23.480 wooded locations, like the overgrown cemetery. There's some very nice 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.720 shots of where wolves creeping through the trees there that 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.080 I was like, that could be an excellent movie and 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.920 it would fit right in. The Other thing that this 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:36.960 movie does is a lot of extreme close ups of 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.400 were wolves. So when a wolf where wolf is about 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.640 to attack, you will get extreme close up of teeth 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.440 and snout and fur that look pretty good. Uh, And 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.000 then you don't get a whole lot of full perspective shots. 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.000 Yeah, yeah, I think that's that's a great observation here. 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.560 And it also helps that a lot of the film 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:59.280 is concerned with the road to full on were wolf mode, 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:02.400 so it's about people changing into and what we're doing 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.720 while we're changing. So it allows us to dwell less 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:11.040 on like the full wolf form in many cases, but 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:13.200 in general, I would say that, Yeah, if the Howling 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.760 was the first child that achieved great things on account 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.520 of its own merits and hard work, Howling two is 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.160 kind of like the second child who quickly who knows 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:24.200 from the get go that it doesn't have the talent 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.200 of the older sibling, but instead decides to just absolutely 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:29.360 act out and prove just how much of a freak 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:29.640 it is. 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:31.800 Marsha, Marsha, Marshah. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.679 Yeah, and I think it achieves this marvelously, marvelously, And 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.760 though your mileage may vary depending on your tolerance for 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.680 B movie weirdness. Now I have to add, I don't 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.760 think I saw any of the Howling films when I 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.280 was young, but I do remember their terrific poster and 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.040 VHS box art, and the posters would be in the 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:55.480 video rental stores as well. The first three, in particular, 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.480 are all really great. The original Howling had this it 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:03.280 looks like a woman with wolf claws clawing her way 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.200 out of a I don't know, like a paper sack 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:08.439 or something, or maybe it's supposed to be flesh. Yeah, 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:13.480 and then Howling two we have another wolf and woman 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.959 clawing through the poster itself, and I believe this is 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.520 supposed to be Civil Banning's character, the were wolf queen 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:24.760 striba right, steer bus, steer bus. Sorry, I'm further away 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.040 from my notes than usual. So some of the letters 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:30.760 and a smaller printer are playing tricks on me. Yes, 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:35.080 Stirba the were Wolf Queen, and then Howling three aka 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:38.960 Howling three the Marsupials. At least the poster I grew 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.800 up seeing on the walls doesn't really lean on the 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.959 Marsupial thing too much and just shows like a ferocious 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:49.960 wear creature again clawing through the poster or the VHS 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:52.920 box art. The were wolves in the Howling movies, this 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.000 initial trilogy anyway, it's implied that they are going to 0:09:56.080 --> 0:09:59.640 come out of the media and attack you. That's the 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.720 kind of experience you can expect. And as a child, 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.560 I was like, that looks like too much for me, 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:06.440 too much wearable faction for me. 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.560 But did you notice how across the three posters the 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:13.560 material that is being slashed through changes, so you said, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.520 in the first poster, it's this opaque, leathery looking maybe 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.559 it's like vellum or something. It's like an opaque kind 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:24.320 of tan material that's being slashed through. And the second one, 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:30.319 Queen steerba here is slashing through like darkness itself, cutting 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.880 through this black void to come out from beyond it. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.199 There's almost something kind of metaphysical about that. And then 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.560 in the third one, the worlf is slashing through a 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:45.920 translucent gossamer sheet, almost like implying something kind of of 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.840 a bedtime nightgown feeling. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.920 Yeah. Yeah, and then that wor wolf looks really wild, 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:54.440 like there's no bargaining with that werewolf. So check out 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.559 those posters if you get a chance. But yeah, this 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.440 film is a glorious mess. And to be clear, you know, 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.040 well ahead of us getting into the plot, there are 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.120 plenty of big and small things in this film that 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.160 just don't add up, like scene to scene that don't 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.679 make sense, and then also larger issues of plot and 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.160 character relationship where you have to do a fair amount 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:17.439 of mental gymnastics to even attain a sort of head 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.680 canon that lets everything keep stay halfway stable. 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:26.640 Yeah. Another thing that's funny about this movie is the 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.040 awkward the awkwardness in the dialogue. Again, this is not 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:35.400 a John salescript. There you can like follow what the 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.640 characters are saying in the dialogue like it all kind 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.880 of makes sense, but frequently I was noticing that the 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:46.240 conversation does not feel human, like there are these unnatural 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:51.959 patterns of information flow where people either state things much 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:57.679 too suddenly without naturalistic hesitation or preparation, or they restate 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:02.760 things that don't make any sense to say again, yeah, yeah. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.160 Yeah, So it'll be fun to call some examples of 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.920 this when we get into the plot. Yeah, but yeah, 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.559 it's a terrifically fun film. It embraces its cheesy B 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.240 movie vibes. It delivers some cool monster scenes, like we've 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:15.839 been saying, hammer esque Gothic vibes that are really nice. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.400 Filmed in an actual castle. So the castle scenes, especially 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.920 a lot of candle candle lighting and all, I thought 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:27.240 looked pretty great. And also you have some neat elements 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:31.400 of werewolf eroticism that I think are pretty interesting. As 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:33.640 I've discussed on the show before, I tend to tire 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.320 of werewolf media that airs too masculine, and I love 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:43.640 even a shallow exploration of feminine lacanthropy and so general listeners, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.440 we are in the shallow end of the pool on 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.120 this one, but there's still a great deal of fun 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:49.640 splashing around in those waters. 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.199 No, it's true, this one is very much about werewolf ladies. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.680 And yeah, we've talked about this on the show multiple 0:12:56.760 --> 0:13:00.800 times before, but a lot of werewolf media to emphasize 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:07.439 kind of especially bipedal wear wolves as like V shaped musclemen. Yeah, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.359 but here, Yeah, there's a different take. Yeah. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.240 Now, when it comes to the elevator pitch for this 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.640 one for want for starters, I don't think I can 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.360 really top what it actually said on the VHS boxes, 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.760 and that is the rocking, shocking new wave of horror. 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:25.240 Pretty great. And then I also saw an interview where 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:29.480 Feliet Moore, the director, called this film the Hammer movie 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:31.720 they never made, which I think is pretty good because 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:33.920 it is there are a lot of elements to the plot, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.240 into the setting that do feel very Hammer horror Gothic, 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.720 but clearly taking it in directions that hammer horror films 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.400 tended not to go well. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:46.240 It feels more like the later Hammer films, the seventies 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.160 Hammer films that were leaning more into the erotic elements 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.720 and got a little zanier in the different plot elements 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.840 they would throw together, and it just feels like taking 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.760 that sensibility and extending it even further in to the eighties, 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:05.560 so it's seventies hammer horror, but with punk new wave 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:06.840 eighties noss. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.880 Yeah. Yeah, all right. Well, if you're wondering, hey, how 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.720 can I watch The Howling Too, Well, it's widely available 0:14:13.720 --> 0:14:17.120 at this point. For my first viewing, I watched it 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.600 on a streaming service on an airplane, which this was 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.280 always this is a sort of film. It's a fun 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:27.000 exercise of Yeah, when the werewolves start getting naked, you 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:28.760 have to sort of like lean over and watch it, 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.440 kind of huddle positions so you don't alarm anyone behind you. 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:36.720 But it was a pretty fun flight viewing. And then 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.840 my subsequent viewing of it came via the excellent Vinegar 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.200 syndrome Blu ray. This one right here comes with loads 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.760 of extras. I really enjoyed it. This one's going in 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:46.680 the collection for sure. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.600 Wait, was The Howling Too? You mean one of the 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.280 films that was selected by the airline service the stream 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:55.640 on the Okay, you had it on your own device. 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.080 Yeah, I pre downloaded it so that I had it 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.200 on my phone and then I could watch it. And 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:02.800 generally I'll do a mix. I have a little little 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.880 cardboard stand. I can set it on on the little 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.400 tray table, watch it that way, and if things get 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.280 a little violin or a little spicy, then I can, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.040 you know, I can sort of lean over it and 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.560 make sure I have a little more privacy on those scenes. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:17.000 It would be amazing if there was an in flight 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.640 streaming service that catered to our taste that, you know, 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:24.760 sometimes those selections on the airplane get they're very mainstream. 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:28.800 A lot of like recent big budget movies that somehow 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:31.800 I never even heard of, and it's like every you know, 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.640 multi hundred million dollar movie that came out two years 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:36.280 before that I didn't know existed. 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:38.440 Yeah, yeah, I mean I have some good experience. I 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.240 think I did watch in Godzilla for the first time 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.440 on an airplane. That was pretty great. Sometimes they'll have 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:47.360 some older films, just depending on who you're flying with. Sometimes, 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:50.640 you know, especially if you're using a foreign airlines, you 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:55.640 get some remarkable insight into contemporary foreign pictures. And yeah, 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:59.320 I do wish there were more Werewolf films available on 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:03.080 these and certainly more B films because generally, I don't know, 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.920 when I'm on an airplane, I need some solid distraction. 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.720 I'm more inclined to watch Franken Hooker than I am 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.280 to watch whatever is nominated for an OSCAR this year. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.280 Though we do have some delightfully weird films nominated for 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:15.120 Oscars this year. 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.160 I have not kept tracks, so I do you know. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.920 Yeah, we'll have to talk after the mics are off, 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:23.560 because there are a couple of really good ones that 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:34.920 I like. All right, let's get into the cast and 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.120 crew here. So we've mentioned him already, but Felipe Mora 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.760 is the director here. Born nineteen forty nine, French born 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.840 Australian director whose first big feature film was Mad Dog 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.440 Morgan in seventy six that starred Dennis Hopper. Then came 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.720 nineteen eighty two as The Beast Within starring Ronnie Cox. 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.160 Have you seen this one, Joe? 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.960 I don't think so. Wait a minute. That's not a 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:01.680 remake of the Beast with Five Fingers? 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.879 Is it? No? This is I haven't seen it either, 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:08.800 but it's it seems pretty dark, pretty bonkers, and I 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:12.159 think people turn into cicadas in it. That's based on 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.360 what I was like. There's some sort of beast transformation, 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:16.879 but I think it leans more insect than Wolf. 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:21.200 Okay, I gotta check that out, and it's got Kohagen. Yeah. Right. 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.640 So he followed this film up with the by all 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:30.240 accounts bonkers pop musical comedy The Return of Captain Invincible 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:33.560 in nineteen eighty two. This one stars Alan Arkin and 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.960 Christopher Lee and Christopher I don't know about Alan Arkin, 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.639 but Christopher Lee definitely sings in this one, so we 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:39.440 may have to come back. 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:40.680 Be Still my Heart. 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.879 Then came the nineteen eighty three bald eagle conservation action 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:50.879 film A Breed Apart, starring Rugger Howard Powers Booth, Kathleen Turner, 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:52.000 and Donald Pleasants. 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:54.800 It's a bald eagle conservation action film. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.119 Yeah, I think people. I haven't seen this one, but 0:17:57.160 --> 0:18:00.600 it's like, I'm assuming Donald Pleasants is trying to eagle 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.159 eggs perhaps to eat, and I'm gonna go ahead and 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:06.040 guess that Powers Booth is the guy that he has 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:06.959 hired to do this. 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:10.000 He's a poacher for hire, and Rutgar Howard speaks for 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.320 the Eagles. That's for Lore Acts of the Eagles. 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.879 Yeah, definitely from that period where Howard is like, I 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:17.119 only play good guys. I don't play bad guys. I 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:21.399 want to save some bald eagles. So Kathleen Turner is 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:25.119 I'm guessing a conservationist and love interest. I think we 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:26.960 probably predicted the whole screenplay right there. 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:29.679 I think, so, okay, But after this, do we get 0:18:29.720 --> 0:18:30.360 to Howling Two? 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:34.119 We do Howling too, as we're talking about now, followed 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:38.120 up by the eighty six war slash crime drama Death 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:40.919 of a Soldier, and then he comes back to Howling 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:44.840 Country with the legendarily weird Howling three of the Marsupials, 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.720 and at this point in his career, yes, it is 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.280 time to direct a Christopher Walken movie. Eighty nine's communion 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:53.520 that this is one a number of you are going 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.679 to be familiar with, an alien abduction drama about the 0:18:56.880 --> 0:19:01.840 Wolfen and the Hunger, author Whitley Striber, featuring a memorable 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:06.040 dance number between Walkin's character, you know, playing the author 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.720 and gray aliens. It's it's one of these that I've 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:11.720 never seen this one in full. I've only seen segments 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.160 of it, but those segments are pretty spectacular. 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:19.159 Do I understand correctly that the author here claimed this 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:20.320 was a true story? 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:26.160 That is my loose understanding of it. I'm not a 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:30.160 I'm not a big expert on his accounts, but it's 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:34.080 my understanding that this is supposed to be his. I 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:39.120 think his he allegedly has actual experiences with aliens. Take 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:42.640 that for he has had paranormal experiences, and those are 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.160 depicted to some extent in his in Communion. 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:47.919 I was asking what he claimed. 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll have to come back. Maybe we'll 0:19:51.680 --> 0:19:53.960 cover communion in the future and we can break that 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.560 down a little bit more. But it's my understanding the Yeah, 0:19:56.600 --> 0:20:00.440 he famously wrote about where wolves and vampires, but believe 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:03.880 in either of those, but the matter was different concerning aliens. 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:09.000 Let's see. As for our director here, Phelipe Moura, still active, 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:13.560 still busting out films, one of the more recent ones, 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:16.120 and by that I mean the last three or four decades. 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:19.480 He did one call ninety six called Pterodactyl Women from 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:22.320 Beverly Hills. But it doesn't look like he's slowing down. 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:26.600 Looks like he still has a number of projects coming together. Okay, 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.440 all right, Coming to the writing, we have Gary Brandner. 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:33.879 He has original novel and screenplay credit here. So he 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.560 lived nineteen thirty through twenty thirteen and he was an 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:40.360 American horror author, best known for his trilogy of Howling novels. 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.960 These are the novels that were two varying degrees the 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.800 basis for the Howling movies, and they came out in 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:51.280 seventy seven, seventy nine, and eighty five. I was looking online. 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.600 If you get your books digitally these days, you can 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:56.639 get all three original Howling novels in a single volume 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:57.840 and you can give that as an e book. 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.320 But he was, I'm just I maybe I'll be proven wrong, 0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:04.919 but this movie does not feel to me like it 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.159 was closely based on a novel. 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.800 I do not believe it was, even though he apparently 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.000 did the initial adaptation. But it's one of those situations 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:17.359 where you know, his first novel was adapted. He wasn't 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.200 involved into the Howling, and then when they were making 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:21.560 the Howling too, they were like, all right, we're gonna 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.160 bring him on board. He's the author, let's have him 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:26.639 do the adaptation. But then it goes through a couple 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.280 of different adaptation cycles where they're like, all right, we're 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:30.520 going to do it, but we have to shoot it 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.080 in If memory serves, they were going to shoot it 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:34.800 in Spain at one point and so he you know, 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.000 and these are the budgetary constraints, and he had made 0:21:38.000 --> 0:21:41.520 those changes, and then more changes occurred, and at some 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:43.480 point he just steps off the project, and you know, 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.240 it gets passed on to a different screenwriter who were 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:49.360 about to get to But yeah, Brander was really prolific. 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:53.520 Let's see the Howling for the original Nightmare is said 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.199 to be a more faithful adaptation of his original book, 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:59.800 and other adaptations of his written work include nineteen eighty 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:03.960 eight Cameron's Closet and the nineteen eighty nine TV movie 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.119 From the Dead of Night that was based on his 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:10.280 novel Walkers. But yeah, he wrote good at least a 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.160 couple a dozen horror novels back in the day. And 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:15.600 I think he even maybe it was The Howling had 0:22:15.600 --> 0:22:18.200 a if I'm not mistaken that Howling might have had 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:20.199 at least in one of its printings had a Stephen 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:21.400 King blurb on the cover. 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:26.760 M So, I don't remember if I have seen the 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:30.760 Howlings four, five, and six. I know I've seen one, two, three, seven, 0:22:31.600 --> 0:22:33.720 I haven't seen seven. Seven is the one in the 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.840 American Southwest with like Cowboy. 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:40.040 Oh wow, I haven't heard what I've seen one, two, three, 0:22:40.320 --> 0:22:43.600 and five. I've seen the one that's the Freaks that 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:46.040 has Bruce Payne is a vampire in it. 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.120 I don't remember if I've seen that. I don't recall it. 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:51.880 Yeah, there was a time when the Howling movies were 0:22:51.960 --> 0:22:55.520 kind of they were just part of the like the 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:59.280 cable wasteland that you would encounter late at night. So 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.200 I think that's I saw. Some of my spotty viewing 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:03.600 of Howling films came from there. 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:07.240 Yeah, it's possible four, five, and six have been on 0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.040 in rooms where I was, but I don't think I 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:11.800 have paid attention to those movies. 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:17.240 The actual screenplay credit here goes to Robert Sarno. Sarno 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:21.359 is responsible for the vast majority of the script we 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:25.160 have here. His only other writing credit on the databases 0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:28.879 is ninety five's Decoy, an action film starring Peter Weller 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:33.960 and Robert Patrick. So we get RoboCop and Terminator two 0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:36.800 coming together. I don't know what they're doing. I think 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:38.760 it's just like a mercenary action picture. 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:40.439 It's about duck hunting. 0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:45.760 Maybe. So all right, let's get into the cast. Top 0:23:45.800 --> 0:23:51.000 billing here is Christopher Lee playing Stefan, the were wolf, hunter. 0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:55.480 Stefan. His name is Stefan Crossco, which I dare you 0:23:55.560 --> 0:24:00.280 not to accidentally say Chrisco, especially since his name is Christoph. 0:24:00.560 --> 0:24:04.879 Yes, Stephan Crossco, and sometimes they call him Crossco. Sometimes 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:06.679 they refer to him by his last name, sometimes by 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:07.320 his first name. 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:11.560 Yeah, but to Queen Steerba, he is Stephan, because we 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:14.320 will learn that they have it. There's a history between them. 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:19.440 Yes, Christopher Lee, of course legend I lived nineteen twenty 0:24:19.480 --> 0:24:22.320 two through twenty fifteen. This is our eighth Christopher Lee 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:25.560 film on Weird House Cinema, putting him in the lead 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.480 currently of actors whose films we've covered thus far in 0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.480 Weird House Cinema. And of course we don't have to 0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:32.720 We don't have to tell you who Christopher Lee was. 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:36.000 Christopher Lee was Dracula, he was Sorrowman. He was Lord 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.960 summer Isle. He was Count Dooku, he was King Haggard, 0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:43.720 and many more, always bringing a smoldering, dignified presence to 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:47.080 even the shakiest of projects, and more than proving his 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:49.159 worth as an actor in the roles that allowed him 0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:52.240 to really shake things up and stand out, so an 0:24:52.280 --> 0:24:53.840 all time great, to be sure. 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:59.439 Bringing Christopher Lee into your movie is kind of like 0:24:59.640 --> 0:25:04.040 lighting a candle in a room. You know, whatever else 0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.080 is in the room, the room might have some tacky decor, 0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:09.840 it might have some you know, plastic everywhere, but once 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:13.919 you light a candle, something in the room does feel 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.360 a little more connected with the ancient and the spiritual 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.919 and the powerful. It becomes more dignified and sacred by 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:25.720 the presence of candlelight. Christopher Lee is like that. He 0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:29.000 of course fits right in with a good script and 0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:33.399 you know, in his kind of horror and gothic horror 0:25:33.440 --> 0:25:37.199 and high fantasy settings. But bring him even into a 0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:41.320 more plastic environment and he becomes the candle light that 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.560 dignifies and mystifies it somewhat. 0:25:44.800 --> 0:25:47.359 Yeah. Absolutely. There are plenty of examples in this film 0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.159 where he's providing voiceover narration, or it's you know, an 0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:54.040 actual scene interaction between characters, and you're like, you're buying 0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:56.640 into what he's laying down. You're like, yeah, yeah, Lee, 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.480 he is right, like the dawn of the Werewolf is 0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:03.000 nearly here, and it's backed up by biblical evidence. If 0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.080 you take two seconds to analyze any of it, you're like, 0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:08.280 that was nonsense. But Lee makes us believe, at least 0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:08.800 in the moment. 0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.200 There were a number of his scenes in this movie 0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:15.000 where the first time I watched them, I was just 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:16.760 kind of like, oh, okay, I was trying to follow. 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:18.560 And then when I went back to make notes and 0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.960 I typed out the words that he had said, I 0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.280 was like, what the part about when they get We're 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.480 gonna have to discuss his allegation that Queen Steerba is 0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:30.879 going to reverse the process of evolution. 0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:35.280 Yeah, Yeah, raises so many questions that are not answered. 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.919 One of the fun questions to always answer regarding an 0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:45.159 actor of this stature and with so many credits and 0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.000 him film like this is like, where was he in 0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.400 his career? I think we might generally say that these 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:55.000 were the Hollywood years. This like the eighties and into 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:59.240 the nineties. These were years when I'm to understand Lee 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.560 had moved to Hollywood, he was making a determined effort 0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:05.960 to put behind him Hammer horror, and you know, thinking 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:09.399 that it was limiting his options back home. And he 0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.200 was appearing in a number of number of different sorts 0:27:12.200 --> 0:27:15.160 of films. There were some, you know, some fantasy films, 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.639 various comedies, so to a certain extent, he was kind of, 0:27:17.680 --> 0:27:20.359 you know, stretching his legs a little bit and trying 0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:24.679 on different sorts of roles. But I don't know, there 0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.200 are a lot of films in this period that are 0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:31.280 kind of forgettable. There are some standouts like eighty Two's 0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.479 of the Last Unicorn, in which he is the voice 0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.480 of King Haggard who has captured all of the unicorns. 0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:41.360 Pretty great role. And then even into the nineties, I mean, 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.720 you get things like Grimlin's two, during which he apparently 0:27:44.760 --> 0:27:47.840 apologized to Joe Dante for the Howling two, which I 0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:51.679 think is unnecessary. I think Dante Dante gets it, but 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:54.600 you know, and then there's like The Rainbow Thief, but 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:58.200 in some other curios. But really it's not until Fellowship 0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.359 of the Ring in two thousand and one that it 0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:03.479 seems to me that Lee like really sort of comes 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:07.880 back into full stature and people begin to really take 0:28:07.960 --> 0:28:09.480 note of him again. And you know, I'm not just 0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.640 say that every everything he's in after that point is golden, 0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:15.760 but you kind of see this later portion of his 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.159 career that has a number of standouts in it. 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:23.800 He experienced a marvelous resurrection of his career in the 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:26.399 early two thousands due to Lord of the Rings. 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:29.399 Yeah, and I think it almost feels at times like 0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:32.800 the people knew that the Lord of the Rings was 0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:35.560 coming one way or another. And I think a number 0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:37.959 of people knew that this is the only guy who 0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:39.480 can play Soomon. 0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:41.440 And who else could have been Samon. 0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.800 Yeah, They're like, just keep him active, keep him acting 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.520 and things that are gonna you know, keep him limber. 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.680 But we need we need to contain his energy, we 0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:52.720 need to prepare him, we need to hold on to 0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:55.200 him and keep him with us until we can make 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:59.520 these movies. M all right. So that's Christopher Lee easily 0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:03.160 the best act during this film, but not the only actor. 0:29:03.840 --> 0:29:07.160 Moving through some of the other human characters. We can 0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:11.680 argue to what degree Stephan is human or mortal? A 0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:15.560 number of questions there. But we have Jenny and Ben. 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:20.440 These are our two human protagonists, really, and. 0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.760 God bless them. You know they're trying. 0:29:23.440 --> 0:29:27.360 I mean they're sandwiched in here between Christopher Lee, Sybil Danning, 0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.800 and a whole bunch of were wolves and they're doing 0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.080 their best. And you know, at least with Ben, the 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:33.880 character of Ben, he does stand out. We'll get to 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:37.080 him the second but first Jenny, played by Annie McEnroe 0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.680 born nineteen fifty five, American actress with some fun genre 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:44.680 credits here, beginning with the TV movie Snowbeast in seventy seven. 0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:46.000 Have you seen that one? 0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.960 I haven't. I've heard good things about it, though. This 0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:49.200 one is one that I think there's a lot of 0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:50.480 excitement about recently. 0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.480 Oh wait, I don't know what the recent excitement is. 0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:56.120 I just know because I saw it on I think VHS, 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.760 probably a long long time ago. It's like a so 0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.520 the idea is it so a rip off of Jaws. 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.800 It's like the structure of Jaws, but with a yetti 0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:05.240 instead of a shark. 0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:06.880 There you go. Ok it sounds great. 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.360 But what was the recent news about it? 0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.680 I think it just received new attention. I can't remember. 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:14.600 I can't remember what form it took. It might have 0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.520 taken the form of a wrist track coverage, or maybe 0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:18.960 it was like just a You know, some of these 0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.160 films will get a new DVD Blu Ray release and 0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.240 people will get excited about them again, unless I'm confusing 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:27.600 it with another snow based horror movie, which is possible. 0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.600 Okay, well I have to come back to it. 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.560 Yeah, So McEnroe follows this up with such films as 0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.560 Oliver Stone's The Hand in eighty one, Battle Truck in 0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:40.080 eighty two. She followed up Howling two with a cameo 0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:44.320 in Michael Mann's Manhunter And That was in eighty six, 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.280 and then a supporting role in David Byrne's True Stories. 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.360 She also has a performer credit in That Wall Street 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.080 in eighty seven, Beatlejuice in eighty eight. She's the real 0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:57.240 litter in That enrolls in several subsequent Oliver Stone films. 0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.360 She met her husband, producer Edward R. Press And on 0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:01.520 the set of The Hand. 0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:05.000 Wait a minute, just earlier, I asked a movie. I 0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:06.840 asked if a movie was a remake of Beast with 0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.440 Five Fingers. But Oliver Stone's The Hand is a remake 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:10.800 of Beast with Five Fingers. 0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:15.200 Essentially, right. Yeah, it's a disembodied hand slash transplant movie. Yeah. 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.160 I must have seen this in the notes and subconsciously 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:19.800 been thinking about it or something. 0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.120 Yeah, that's one I've wanted to revisit for a while. 0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:25.080 That one. That's probably one of my favorite Oliver Stone films. 0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.080 I mean no offense to Annie McEnroe. She seems great, 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:33.000 but a kind of bewildered performance in the movie. I 0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:34.560 think she's just getting through it. 0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:38.360 Yeah. Yeah. And then we have Ben, and Ben is 0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:42.440 played by B movie action powerhouse Reb Brown. 0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:50.720 Yeah, speaking of bewildering but a frequently bewildering action star. 0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:54.520 I have suggested on the show before that we sometimes 0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:59.720 just do a Reb Brown film festival series because he 0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:03.560 is in so many weird B movies. He's in the 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:07.480 Italian leather diaper barbarian movie Your Hunter from the Future, 0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.600 directed by Antonio Margheriti, which is no. I think he 0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:13.960 made a movie we've done on the show before. Was 0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.720 it a cannibal Apocalypse? Is that right? 0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:18.959 Was that the Margeriti film? I know we have covered too, 0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:20.480 think so yeah, okay. 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:24.800 And Reb Brown was also in a ripoff of Predator 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.840 I think maybe an Italian Filipino ripoff of Predator called 0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:33.240 Robo war Ye, which that one is not especially watchable. 0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.360 A lot of it's just kind of boring, like commandos 0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.720 walking around in the jungle, but there are some very 0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:38.680 funny parts in it. 0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:43.400 Yeah. Reb Brown is He's the for my taste anyway, 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:47.840 the perfect sort of B movie muscle bound action hero 0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.360 because you have that nice combination of Yes, he's big 0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.720 and muscly and objectively handsome, but he is also awkward 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:59.160 on screen. Yes, in this film especially. I mean it's 0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:01.680 in the and I love him. I don't mean any 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:03.720 of this as a dig. Like, if you give me 0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.440 the choice between Reb Brown and I don't know the 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.520 Barbarian Brothers or I don't know even any number of 0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.960 very competent muscle actors, I'm going to say, please put 0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:15.880 Reb Brown in there, because he is entertaining. 0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.880 Always love a Reb Brown performance, even though it is frequently, 0:33:19.920 --> 0:33:23.760 as I said, bewildering. A lot of strange choices in 0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:26.200 the line delivery is just kind of why did he 0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:28.800 have that inflection? I don't know, but they kept it, 0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:30.440 and it's I'm glad they did. 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:32.200 Yeah. I mean a lot of people are going to 0:33:32.280 --> 0:33:34.920 know him best from the nineteen eighty eight sci fi 0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.160 epics Space Mutiny, which was riffed on MS two three K. 0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:40.200 That was the one that co starred John Philip Law, 0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:43.960 Cameron Mitchell, and Reb's wife Sissy Cameron. 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:47.760 And he's blast hard cheese. Yeah yeah. 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.480 So many scenes in that film are him firing a 0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:56.840 weapon and letting out just this primal scream like that's 0:33:57.520 --> 0:33:59.760 just bewildering. It's just bewildering. And he gets to do 0:33:59.800 --> 0:34:01.800 that all the time in this movie as well. 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.280 Shoots the gun, either before or after he shoots the gun, 0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.360 or before or after he charges in to tackle someone 0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:13.239 gravelly high pitched shriek, which is kind of his signature 0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:17.799 move that really distinguished him from the other meat meat 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:22.399 based musclemen of the time. Like, you know, Red Brown 0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:23.959 is never going to be as big a movie star 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:27.759 as Arnold or Stallone, but they do not shriek like this. 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.160 You will remember him because he's the only one that shrieks. 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:35.839 Yeah. So, yeah, he's so he's tremendous. Inness loved him. 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.120 Let's see, I'll briefly mentioned a few of the things 0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:41.440 he was in. He's Captain America twice on TV. 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.279 I've thought we should maybe do one of these, one 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:48.879 of the alternative Captain America movies from before the Marvel renaissance. 0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.000 There are actually multiple ones. There is the one directed 0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:58.440 by Albert Pyune that has JD. Saliner's son and that 0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.920 Captain America Captain America, and then there are also the 0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.000 Red Brown ones, which I haven't seen. The Red Brown ones, 0:35:05.040 --> 0:35:06.040 but I'm very interested. 0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.239 One of them has Christopher Lee in it, presumably is 0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:11.160 the villain, so it looks good. He did a lot 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.399 of TV work. He was on stuff like The Love 0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:18.200 Boat Three's Company back in the day. Yeah. He followed 0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.400 up Halloween two with Death of a Soldier, which I 0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:25.400 mentioned previously, and yeah, just been in a ton of 0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:27.520 a ton of action films over the years and then 0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.000 occasionally shows up in stuff like he has a minor 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.759 role in nineteen ninety one's Flight of the Intruder. But 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:34.960 you don't want Red Brown in a minor role. You 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:44.800 want in front center. And that's what this film offers. 0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:49.320 All right. Moving on, Yeah, let's talk about Sybil Danning, 0:35:49.320 --> 0:35:53.200 who plays Sturba in this film. The Werewolf Queen born 0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.680 nineteen fifty Austrian American b movie queen of the seventies 0:35:56.680 --> 0:35:59.840 and eighties. We've talked about her before in our episode 0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:04.440 nineteen eighties Battle Beyond the Stars and nineteen eighty three's Hercules. 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.719 Oh okay, Yeah, I definitely remembered her from Battle beyond 0:36:08.760 --> 0:36:11.280 the Stars, in which she plays a kind of gleaming 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:12.920 armored angel alien. 0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.520 Yes. Yeah, her costumes and these films are often extravagant 0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:20.399 and amazing, and the same is true of this film 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:21.359 as Volk We'll get to. 0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.200 Do you know what I mean When I say a 0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:28.160 Sybil Danning performance, she often seems to be performing in 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:31.960 a costume from a different film. Yes, yes, does that 0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.080 make it's the case in this one too. 0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:39.560 Yeah, Well, she had a designated costume designer on this film. 0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:44.560 This was, in fact Peter Mitchell. His credit is Costume 0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:48.280 Designer Sibyl Danning. He was an Australian fashion designer turned 0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:54.040 costume designer for Australian ballets, operas and theatrical productions before 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.120 making the move to la where he was working at 0:36:56.120 --> 0:37:00.680 the time. And so all of her costumes were designed, 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:05.960 fitted multiple times and then shipped out to then Czechoslovakia 0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:06.560 for the shoot. 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:11.400 So, her character in this movie is supposed to be 0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:14.960 like an ancient vampire queen, and the first time we 0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.600 see her, she's dressed in an old kind of crone's 0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:22.319 robe before she has a magical sort of vampiric rejuvenation 0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:25.040 process go through. But so when we first see her, 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:28.320 it seems like she's in line with this old world aesthetic. 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.040 She's like a witch from the Middle Ages or something. 0:37:31.600 --> 0:37:34.560 But then she spends i don't know, the other sixty 0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:38.919 percent of the movie wearing like a fim Darth Vader outfit. Yeah, 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:46.640 that's a like a very feminine body shape, emphasizing black 0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:50.160 leather and metal pieces. Robotic kind of design. 0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:54.480 Yeah, made from real leather, real brass, and gives her 0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:59.160 the look like she just came off of a runway. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah. 0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.800 You can't think to her about where this costume came from, 0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:06.640 but she does look pretty fabulous in it. So Danning 0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:10.360 started out in erotic and sexploitation films of the seventies. 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:15.680 She was a model turned actress, but steadily worked her 0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:19.480 way into more mainstream pictures like seventy two's Bluebeard and 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.520 the Gallo, The Red Queen Kills seven seven Times. Sorry 0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.440 had a page jump there, The Red Red Queen Kills 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:26.840 seven Times. Do you know this one, Joe? 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:29.520 I've seen it, but I forgot she was in it. 0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:31.120 It's been a while since I've seen it. This is 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.560 one of those it's a very jallo title. It's a 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:34.280 whole sentence. 0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:37.840 There's a nice interview with her on the Vinegar Syndrome 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:39.680 disc and she points out that this kind of like 0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.800 jump from European cinema, like European low budget cinema to 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:47.319 bigger budget Hollywood affairs meant that she no longer had 0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.680 to apply her own makeup using a mirror hanging on 0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:53.520 a tree, which was a fun, fun example that she 0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.160 drew here. Like even with a film like Howling Too, 0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.600 she's in an example, she's in a case, she's in 0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:03.400 a film where she's getting professional makeup and professional costume design. 0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:07.279 One thing I have read about Sybil Danning is it 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.840 seems like she had a great sense of humor about 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:14.040 being in ridiculous B movies, not somebody who was like, 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.200 you know, annoyed or thought that this was beneath her. 0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.120 It's like she thinks this is hilarious and just having 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:20.759 a great time. 0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.520 Yeah, yeah, she was. The extras for this. She was 0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.640 talking about like it was just super fun to play 0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:29.160 Queen of the Werewolves and just embody this this feminine 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.960 character that has all of this power, gets to wear 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:35.800 all of these cool outfits. So yeah, a lot of fun. 0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:40.680 There's one little story that she shares too. Apparently she 0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.880 showed up on set with a swollen eye from a 0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.279 spa mishap, like spa oil got in her eye, and 0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.240 this is a scene where she's gonna wear that brass 0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.120 and leather outfit, and she's like, you can't film me, 0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:55.600 like look in my eyes. This looks horrible. But Felipe 0:39:55.600 --> 0:39:58.120 More of the directors like, a, we can't lose any 0:39:58.120 --> 0:40:00.680 time on this and we can't burn a day of shooting. 0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.440 But then he says, let's get you some sunglasses and 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.160 gets these pair of sunglasses four and she's like, well, 0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:09.520 what a thousand year old werewolf queen? Where are these? 0:40:09.560 --> 0:40:12.760 Like does this make sense? And More reportedly told her, Sybil, 0:40:12.840 --> 0:40:14.800 you're the queen of the werewolves. You can do whatever 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:18.600 the hell you like. So I like that. But yeah, 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:22.480 she has a ton of great credits. She was in 0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:25.480 The Three Musketeers in seventy three and it's seventy four 0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:28.000 sequel that I think we're filmed back to back. Those 0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:32.200 film featured Christopher Lee as well. She appeared in God's 0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:34.839 Gun in seventy six, starring Lee van Cleef Believe that's 0:40:34.840 --> 0:40:39.000 a spaghetti western. And amid all of this, she continued 0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.839 to appear in various genre films like eighty three's Chained Heat, 0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:45.520 a women's prison film with Linda Blair and John Vernon, 0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:48.960 fred Olin Ray's The Tomb in eighty six, which we 0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.040 might come back for The Phantom Empire in eighty eight. 0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.840 I believe that's also fred Olin Ray, and then a 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.120 number of action films that kind of round out her 0:40:57.160 --> 0:41:00.040 main period of on screen activity. Eighty six is The 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:03.000 Panther Squad, which she co produced and starred in, and 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:06.080 La Bounty in eighty nine, which she co produced, co wrote, 0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:11.399 and starred in opposite Wingshuser. Oh Wings all right, yeah, yeah, 0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:15.200 the late Wingshuser rip. And she's remained active as a 0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:18.919 producer and occasionally has acted, including in rob Zombies, were Wolf, 0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.840 Women of the ss Ground Grindhouse trailer, and she was 0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.000 also at least has some sort of a small role 0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:26.920 in his two thousand and seven Halloween remake. 0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.600 Oh, I haven't seen that since it came out. I 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:30.520 forgot she was in it. 0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:31.239 Yeah. 0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:34.879 Well again, As Roger Ebert said, no one presides over 0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:37.960 a ritual quite like Sybil Danning, and I think he's 0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:42.040 absolutely right. She she just seems born to like stand 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:45.919 like this while the magic is going on, and people are, 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:47.200 you know, kneeling before her. 0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.520 Yes, yes, yes, some great ceremonies in this one. 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.040 However, we should point out that this movie does not 0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.960 only have one great werewolf woman villain. There's another one 0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:58.160 played by Marsha Hunt. 0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:02.600 That's right, playing Marianne. We've talked about Marshall Hunt before 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.680 on the show because she was in well, she was 0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:07.279 in a few different films, so she was an eighty 0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:10.040 Two's the Sender, eighty threes, Never Say Never Again, but 0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:13.680 also Dracula AD nineteen seventy two, which of course starred 0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.400 Christopher Lee. Ah yeah, okay, yeah, so she was a model. 0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:21.640 It is Slash was a model, singer, actor, author, editor, 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.279 and she was also famously in a relationship with Nick 0:42:24.360 --> 0:42:26.440 Jagger and the two had a daughter together. 0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:30.640 She also seems to really have a great sense of 0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:34.040 humor about what's going on here and does not hold back, 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:37.520 plays up her like werewolf transformations and all that to 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:41.400 the extent that the makeup effects can keep up. But yeah, 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:42.440 she's great. 0:42:42.239 --> 0:42:44.560 She's good. She has some pretty good makeup in this one, 0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:46.680 though when she starts changing. 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:48.800 Well, there are parts where she's not even like fully 0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.680 wolf mode. Like there's this shot of her kind of 0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:54.200 halfway there, like where her face is starting to change 0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:56.520 and she's just kind of looking back and forth and snarling, 0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:58.960 and they use the same shot like three different times 0:42:58.960 --> 0:42:59.480 in the movie. 0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:02.000 Yeah, and he's also good at just embodying the wolf 0:43:02.200 --> 0:43:04.799 even when she's she hasn't started transforming yet. 0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.040 Yeah, she does a great howl, like standing in the 0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:11.360 middle of this empty warehouse, and that's great. 0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.200 We also have a male werewolf in the mix. We 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:19.880 have Vlad, played by jud Omen born nineteen forty, American actor, 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.840 best known for roles in eighty four's Red Red Dawn, 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.720 eighty five's Peewee's Big Adventure, and also David Lynch's Done. 0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:29.880 We devoted two whole episodes of Weird House Cinema to 0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:32.680 the nineteen eighty four adaptation of Doune, and the cast, 0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.759 of course, is so stacked that I don't think we 0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:38.000 even really properly mentioned Omen in that. But he played 0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:40.960 the Fremen Jamas in that, the one that Paul must 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:44.720 overcome in single combat as he is entering into Fremen culture. 0:43:45.120 --> 0:43:47.960 Oh, I forgot about that. Okay, Yeah, but in this, Yeah, 0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:52.319 he's a werewolf here named Vlad. Who is I would 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:55.680 say the other main werewolf apart from Stierba and Marianna. 0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:59.480 Yeah, yeah, I think he's like Stierba's second in command 0:43:59.560 --> 0:43:59.880 sort of. 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:00.720 Yeah. 0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.120 But anyway omens credits go, they go all the way 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.360 back to an uncredited role in seventy three Serpico, with 0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:08.400 TV and film roles going up through I believe two 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.480 thousand and five. His other films include eighty nine's Chud 0:44:11.520 --> 0:44:15.880 two Bud, The Chud, and The greens doll Man. And 0:44:15.960 --> 0:44:18.360 let's see just a couple of other quick references of 0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:22.600 people in this We have Ferdy Maine playing Earl. He 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:26.439 lived nineteen sixteen through nineteen eighty eight. German born characteristic actor, 0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.520 best known for roles and the Fearless Vampire Killers in 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:33.160 sixty seven where Eagles Dare in sixty eight, Conan the 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:36.720 Destroyer in eighty four and eighty six is Pirates. Often 0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:40.239 played Germanic baddies and or vampires of sorts. 0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:43.440 Yeah, and I like his look as a henchman because 0:44:43.480 --> 0:44:46.839 he's not like a meaty muscle guy. He almost comes 0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:48.920 off as a professorial henchman. 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:54.440 Yeah. And then again, this film was shot a lot 0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:59.040 of it was shot in then Czechoslovakia, and we do 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:03.320 have a number of check actors that have roles, including 0:45:03.440 --> 0:45:07.480 a diminutive check actor diminutive in height but not in talent, 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:14.040 Yuri Critinar. I hope I'm saying that correctly. Critinar. He 0:45:14.120 --> 0:45:17.000 lived nineteen forty seven through twenty fifteen, and he plays 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:23.200 this character. He's a good guy Vasili right, Vasila Yasila. Yeah, 0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:25.880 good guy and eventually some bad things are going to 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:29.800 happen to him. But a fun role here. His credits 0:45:29.840 --> 0:45:32.520 go back to sixty nine and include such Check films 0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:36.240 as seventy three's Three Wishes for Cinderella and Jan schunk 0:45:36.280 --> 0:45:39.200 Meyer's Lunacy in two thousand and five, and even a 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:42.920 count Bathory movie Bathory Countess of Blood from two thousand 0:45:42.960 --> 0:45:46.920 and eight, alongside some other foreign productions that were filmed 0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:50.160 in then Czechoslovakia or later in the Czech Republic, including 0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:50.960 nineteen eighty four. 0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:55.200 As Amadaeis, he is involved in. I think both of 0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:59.879 the two creepiest scenes in the movie, both his death 0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:05.880 and his ignominious resurrection scene are like the actually scariest 0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:06.560 things in here. 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:10.880 Yeah yeah. And then finally, the score. The score is 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:13.800 pretty great here, and it is by Stephen W. Parsons 0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:19.040 born nineteen fifty one British rocker, composer, songwriter and record producer, 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:22.200 best known outside of film for his work with the 0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:25.560 band Sharks, but he was also involved in various other 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:30.600 bands and performs this movie's excellent theme song Howling with 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.680 the band Babble, which I think was assembled for this 0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:36.920 picture out of some frequent collaborators of his. 0:46:37.880 --> 0:46:41.719 Okay, and so you actually see the band perform the 0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:45.279 song on stage in a scene in the film, and 0:46:45.880 --> 0:46:47.719 then you get to hear the song about eight more 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:49.880 times before the whole guys get over. They play it 0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:51.520 so so much. 0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:53.560 It's one of these where I'm like, I hope you 0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:55.560 like the theme song because you're gonna hear it a lot, 0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.040 but you're gonna hear it so much you're probably gonna 0:46:58.080 --> 0:46:59.879 love it by the end. It's gonna win you over. 0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:01.959 You have no choice. Yeah. 0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:06.120 Yeah, it really gets in there, and it almost becomes 0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.160 this kind of background hum in the film, like you 0:47:09.719 --> 0:47:12.840 kind of stop noticing when Babel is playing again. 0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:17.360 Yeah. So Parsons had never composed a film score before, 0:47:17.880 --> 0:47:20.960 but he cites Giorgio Moroder is a prime influence on 0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:24.840 the electro electronic stylings that are present here, with obvious 0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:28.000 new wave flavors as well. Parsons would go on to 0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:30.920 score numerous projects, including eighty nine's Food of the Gods 0:47:30.960 --> 0:47:34.759 Too and Hey nineteen ninety two Split Second, which we 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:37.960 previously discussed on Weird House Cinema, a score that was 0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:42.600 allegedly selected over a Windy Carlos score if you can 0:47:42.640 --> 0:47:43.080 believe it. 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:47.279 Wow, I have vague memories of that, but yeah, that's 0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:51.320 a strange choice. But yeah, how to describe this song 0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.080 by Babel that you keep hearing. I'd say it's the 0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:58.520 center of a venda diagram of Devo, Oingo Boingo and 0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:03.160 the Damned. So it has that new wave sensibility, a 0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.919 little bit of punk, a little bit of electronic. Does 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:07.319 they play a key tar? 0:48:07.680 --> 0:48:12.440 Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah apparently apparently the concert scene they 0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:16.520 shot in Czechoslovakia, but they had to like fly in 0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:20.400 a bunch of la garbage to properly illiterate, some of 0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:22.759 which got confiscated before it could enter. Like I think 0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:24.719 they were trying to bring in some playboys to be 0:48:24.760 --> 0:48:27.000 on the on the ground and they're like, no, can't 0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:31.040 bring this in a quick note on the locations here, again, 0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:34.520 much of the film's charm I think, I think comes 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:38.279 from the great Czech locations and sets, like we see 0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:42.480 this castle at one point, we see Prague's medieval astronomical clock. 0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.680 And on top of this, we do have some scenes 0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:48.719 that were shot in the US, most for some reshoots 0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:52.400 and so forth. Most notably, Frank Lloyd writes in his 0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:54.960 house in la a home that has been featured in 0:48:55.040 --> 0:48:58.319 various films, including fifty nine's House on Haunted Hill and 0:48:58.440 --> 0:48:59.880 nineteen eighty two's Blade Runner. 0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:03.800 Hmm, okay, is this Christopher Lee's house in the movie 0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:05.560 with the textured columns. 0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.120 Yeah, you can see those columns with that like signature, 0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:13.040 kind of like cube square repeating square pattern. 0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:17.600 There's a maze carved into the columns. Yeah, all right, 0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:19.160 are you ready to talk about the plot. 0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:21.560 Let's get into it. Let's make sense of it. Let's 0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:23.920 justify the ways of God demand here. 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:26.600 We will make sense of it. We begin in outer 0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:30.320 space with the voice of Christopher Lee ringing in our ears. 0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:33.560 He says, for it is written, the inhabitants of the 0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.880 earth have been made drunk with her blood. And then 0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.400 at this point, an image of Christopher Lee in a 0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:43.680 suit and tie fades in superimposed on the starfield. He 0:49:43.719 --> 0:49:46.600 looks kind of like he's giving prepared remarks. He's like 0:49:46.640 --> 0:49:50.640 reading from a book or something, but of course it's 0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.560 just like you know, book of revelation stuff. Also, there 0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.360 is a skeleton hanging out behind him. Do you notice 0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:58.160 that just at his elbow, a skeleton. 0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:00.000 Yeah. 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.680 So he goes on and I saw her sit upon 0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:05.720 the hairy beast, and she held forth a golden chalice 0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:09.319 full of the filthiness of her fornications, and upon her 0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:12.200 forehead was written, Behold, I am the Great Mother of 0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:16.279 Harlot's and all abominations of the Earth. So there's your 0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:18.800 your book of revelation stuff. Have we talked about recently? 0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:22.240 Why how come every horror movie that quotes the Bible 0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:24.560 it's always got to be the Book of Revelation. Why 0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:27.319 should do a horror movie that quotes the Sermon on 0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:28.120 the Mount or something. 0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:30.680 I mean, there's where all the wacky cryptic stuff is 0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:32.400 not all of the wacky cryptics. 0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:35.600 But I'm not I should have phrased that differently. It's 0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:38.200 not surprising why you go there, That's where a lot 0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:41.279 of the most ominous and dangerous sounding stuff is you know, 0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:44.799 the Yeah, the cryptic and monstrous imagery. I just feel 0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:47.560 like I'm it's played out, you know. Yeah, we've heard 0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:50.040 from the Book of Revelation and horror movies before. Let's 0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:51.480 let's let's source somewhere else. 0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:54.800 Yeah, now does where do we see him holding the 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:55.879 Book of Revelation here? 0:50:56.000 --> 0:50:57.960 Or is that I don't remember. I don't remember what 0:50:58.000 --> 0:51:00.640 we see. He's clearly reading from something. 0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:04.160 Okay, at some point I believe he's reading from Revelation, 0:51:04.239 --> 0:51:05.640 but it's the middle of the book, so I don't 0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:06.680 know which Bible this is. 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.360 Yeah, this is the one that had a lot of 0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:13.960 extra stuff, Yeah, the bonus chapters. So from here we 0:51:14.000 --> 0:51:17.600 go into what I thought was a breathtakingly ugly credit 0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:21.200 sequence because the text on the screen is in this 0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:26.200 zany font where the letters are read with blue outlines, 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.600 so it looks almost like a three D effect, but 0:51:28.800 --> 0:51:31.600 this is not a three D movie. And also, in 0:51:31.760 --> 0:51:34.920 whatever font this is, the t's look like c's So 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:39.759 this movie is scarring Christopher Lee or scarring Chris Koeperlee. 0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:44.040 And the credits music is this very eighties rock song. 0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:47.399 I guess this is probably the Babbel song. I made 0:51:47.400 --> 0:51:49.320 this note before we got to the Babbel scene. 0:51:49.800 --> 0:51:52.640 Yeah. Well, yeah, we hear the Babbel theme song a lot, 0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:55.279 so very likely, and I would agree this this is 0:51:55.360 --> 0:51:56.800 kind of an ugly way to start the picture. 0:51:57.160 --> 0:52:00.319 Yeah, but the imagery here, I mean, the background image 0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:03.520 is kind of interesting. It's a montage of European castles 0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:07.640 and old mansions and these flashes of disturbing art, Like 0:52:07.719 --> 0:52:10.320 one of the close ups is a kind of copycat 0:52:10.360 --> 0:52:13.520 of Goya's painting of Saturn devouring his son, a bunch 0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:17.799 of somber faces and themes of witchcraft. Then we cut 0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:23.440 to and text on screen says Los Angeles, California, USA. 0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.200 Glad we know it's the one in USA, and then 0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:30.160 text on the screen after this as City of the Angels. 0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:31.279 And none of this is AP style guide. 0:52:31.840 --> 0:52:35.200 Yeah. So we go to an LA cathedral and join 0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:39.080 the congregation for a funeral where the priest is giving 0:52:39.080 --> 0:52:42.239 a eulogy that begins with the statement the death of 0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:47.839 anyone is a sad occasion. It feels kind of impersonal. 0:52:48.040 --> 0:52:50.479 Yeah, it's like this one's supposed to be especially sad 0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.040 because this is our funeral. 0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:57.480 Come on, Also, this LA based priest has a British accent. 0:52:57.560 --> 0:53:00.399 He kind of sounds like Eric Idol, And I did 0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:03.160 not recognize the style of the vestments he's wearing. It 0:53:03.160 --> 0:53:05.880 looks kind of like an old time e Quaker outfit. 0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:08.480 So I don't know if that's a denomination. I don't 0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:11.400 know what the priests normally look like in But so, 0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:14.800 the funeral here is for a person named Karen White, 0:53:14.880 --> 0:53:18.800 who was the main character of the first Howling film, 0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:22.320 played by d Wallace. The corpse here is not d Wallace, 0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:26.040 it's somebody else playing this character, and the priest explains 0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:28.480 that she was murdered in the prime of her life, 0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:31.680 and then the eulogy takes a turn. He says it 0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:35.239 is small consolation for her family and friends, but it 0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:37.799 is a sign of the terrible times we live in, 0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:41.640 that the anonymous of violence characterizing our cities can claim 0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:44.879 the life of a human being for no reason at all. 0:53:45.719 --> 0:53:48.080 It's just just what everybody wants at their funeral, like 0:53:48.120 --> 0:53:53.560 a strident jeremiad against this six ad world. So anyway, 0:53:53.640 --> 0:53:56.880 while father in Law and Order here keeps blabbing, we 0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:59.400 pan over the crowd and we see several characters, the 0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:02.560 first one that automatically sticks out is Reb Brown. He's 0:54:02.680 --> 0:54:05.799 sitting in a pew between some much older people, and 0:54:05.880 --> 0:54:09.160 he is a whole head taller than everybody around him. 0:54:09.440 --> 0:54:12.600 He's wearing a western style blazer with a bowlow tie. 0:54:13.160 --> 0:54:15.040 And this is going to be the character Ben White, 0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:18.360 who is Karen's brother. He's some kind of wild West 0:54:18.480 --> 0:54:23.040 Montana lawman who has come into town for his sister's funeral. 0:54:23.920 --> 0:54:26.240 The camera also stops a couple of times to focus 0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:28.759 on a woman in the audience played by Annie McEnroe. 0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:31.880 This will be the character Jenny Templeton. She is a 0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:36.480 journalist who worked with Karen at the local LA news station. 0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:40.600 And then, finally, standing in the back of the church, 0:54:40.680 --> 0:54:43.640 we see Christopher Lee. There's no skeleton beside him now, 0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:46.720 he's just standing there behind the congregation, looking very solemn, 0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:50.480 staring at the floor. The priest's eulogy goes on to 0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:52.799 make the following points. He says, there's no way to 0:54:52.800 --> 0:54:57.000 bring Karen back from the dead. Usually do they specify that, 0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:01.319 But then he says her death. Says, however, her death 0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:04.920 might prove useful in that it causes us all to 0:55:05.160 --> 0:55:07.799 reflect on our lives, to believe in the power of 0:55:07.880 --> 0:55:11.279 love and to rid our thoughts, rid our hearts of 0:55:11.320 --> 0:55:15.080 all thoughts of hate. M okay, I just I have 0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:18.439 notes for this guy. He needs to work on his eulogizing. 0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:22.960 But then the whole church says amen, and I like 0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:25.320 how I think the third time they say amen, you 0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:28.680 can distinctly hear Christopher Lee's voice saying amen, like an 0:55:28.719 --> 0:55:32.800 octave below everybody else. Paul bearers carry the coffin away 0:55:32.880 --> 0:55:35.319 and they deposit it in some kind of crypt But 0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:38.120 the moment the coffin is shut up so no one 0:55:38.120 --> 0:55:41.320 else can see, we get a shot inside the coffin 0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:43.720 and Karen's eyes suddenly pop open. 0:55:44.280 --> 0:55:46.480 Oh, this is when I think we begin to connect 0:55:46.520 --> 0:55:49.719 the dots. This is the titular sister Yea, and she 0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:53.760 is Awarewolf. There you go, I think, So maybe somebody 0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:55.640 will clarify that for us later in the picture. 0:55:55.800 --> 0:55:58.880 Oh, they'll clarify a few times in the next scene. 0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:01.760 So we cut to the crowd at the cemetery leaving 0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:04.120 the funeral service, And at first I didn't know where 0:56:04.160 --> 0:56:07.400 the cemetery location was. As soon as I saw it, 0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.880 I was thinking I would be really surprised if this 0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:14.000 was actually shot in La. It's actually quite beautiful. It's 0:56:14.040 --> 0:56:19.200 this heavily overgrown forest graveyard with old headstones and monuments 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:22.560 covered in vines, so it's very green and shady, with 0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:25.960 this full tree canopy overhead. There's ivy on all the 0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:29.600 tree trunks, a dappled sunlight coming through its beautiful environment. 0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:32.239 So I went and did a little digging online to 0:56:32.239 --> 0:56:34.320 see if I could figure out where this was. I 0:56:34.320 --> 0:56:37.360 am not positive, but I think this might be a 0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:41.839 place called Olshawnee or Olshanya Cemetery in Prague, which has 0:56:41.880 --> 0:56:44.040 a very romantic, overgrown appearance. 0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:44.279 Rob. 0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:46.880 I put a couple of pictures of this cemetery in 0:56:46.920 --> 0:56:48.799 the outline for you to look at. It has a 0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:51.000 similar appearance. So I think this is where it is. 0:56:51.040 --> 0:56:53.360 And it would make sense because the movie was largely 0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:56.000 shot in Prague, even though this part is supposed to 0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:57.560 be set in La. 0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:00.520 Yeah. Another example of how they really benefit from some 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:01.560 of these locations. 0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:05.200 Yeah. So as the people are walking away from the mausoleum, 0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:07.719 we close in on two of them. It's Jenny who 0:57:07.719 --> 0:57:10.160 he saw at the funeral, and then another man, I 0:57:10.160 --> 0:57:13.719 guess her news editor, and he's saying, quote, I just 0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:16.800 phoned the station. The police leaked the story that six 0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:20.400 bodies were found mauled and killed by either wild dogs 0:57:20.440 --> 0:57:23.680 or coyotes. The coroner said that the marks found on 0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:26.800 the bodies were made by canine teeth. I want you 0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:29.320 to cover the story. Meet your film crew out at 0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:32.880 the Hollywood Reservoir. And the first time I saw it, 0:57:32.920 --> 0:57:34.480 I was just like, Okay, this is a weird thing 0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:36.880 to talk about at a funeral. But then on my rewatch, 0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:39.280 I was like, wait, he got a call from the 0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:43.800 police with these hot leaks at the mausoleum. That's where 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:44.520 they're coming from. 0:57:44.680 --> 0:57:46.439 Yeah, and what's the editor doing out in the field. 0:57:46.520 --> 0:57:50.200 Usually the editors back at the Newsha. 0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:52.840 So wherever the phone was. This is a weird time, 0:57:52.960 --> 0:57:55.800 place and manner in which to get a TV news assignment. 0:57:56.720 --> 0:58:00.480 But the weirdness continues with this awkward dialogue. So after this, 0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:03.800 Ginny turns and she sees Christopher Lee talking to Reb 0:58:03.840 --> 0:58:07.200 Brown again. Reb Brown is playing Karen's brother Ben, and 0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:11.360 Christopher Lee says to him, almost whispering, your sister is alive. 0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:15.760 Ben says, are you sick, buddy? My sister's dead. And 0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:18.960 then Christopher Lee says it is her immortal soul which 0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:22.680 is in very grave danger. Ben says, I just buried 0:58:22.680 --> 0:58:25.560 my sister. Please leave me alone. 0:58:28.120 --> 0:58:31.000 One of the all time great cinematic pairings, Christopher Lee 0:58:31.040 --> 0:58:32.680 and Reb Brown amazing. 0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:35.760 So Christopher Lee gives Ben his card and tells him 0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:39.160 to call him later, and then Ben tells him, with 0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:43.000 evident irritation, to get out of here. So christpher Lee leaves, 0:58:43.000 --> 0:58:45.720 and then Jenny the journalist approaches Ben the law man 0:58:45.960 --> 0:58:49.680 and asks to see the card. She reads out loud. 0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:54.840 Stefan crossco a cult investigator. He's got cards printed up 0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:56.320 to say that. And that made me think, how do 0:58:56.440 --> 0:58:58.640 I get a job as an occult investigator? 0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:02.440 I think you can become one, and today it's entirely 0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:04.760 self employed, I would imagine. 0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:08.360 I guess maybe you have to be independently wealthy. You 0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:10.320 get the sense that Chris Frilly comes from money. 0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:13.080 Yeah, there might be some sort of verification process like there, 0:59:13.160 --> 0:59:15.480 you know, you have to pass the online quiz or something. 0:59:15.520 --> 0:59:18.200 But I think it's probably pretty easy to become one, 0:59:18.320 --> 0:59:19.920 a little harder to make a living out of it. 0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:32.480 The licensing may be a bit of a headache. Let's see, 0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.440 so everybody's filing out of the cemetery, and here we 0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:37.280 meet a couple of other characters who stand aside watching 0:59:37.320 --> 0:59:40.880 them go. One is an older man in his seventies 0:59:40.920 --> 0:59:44.080 who's gaunt, with a white beard and dark circles under 0:59:44.120 --> 0:59:47.480 his eyes. He's wearing a flat cap and black leather gloves, 0:59:47.520 --> 0:59:51.080 holding a slightly withered bouquet. And this character we will 0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:52.960 later find out is called Earla. 0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:55.120 Earla. I may have caught him Earl earlier. 0:59:55.480 --> 0:59:57.160 Ear Well, it looks like could be Earl, but I 0:59:57.160 --> 1:00:01.560 think it's like a Germanic pronunciation, Earla. And then next 1:00:01.560 --> 1:00:04.760 to him is a beautiful woman of about forty with long, 1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:07.880 voluminous hair, wearing a black dress and a black lace 1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:10.920 veil over her eyes. She stands watching the people and 1:00:10.960 --> 1:00:13.840 she's kind of sneering, curling her lip at them a bit. 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:18.440 This is the character Marianna, played by Marcia Hunt, and 1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:21.120 it's like, if you haven't seen this movie before, do 1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:23.560 you think these two characters are gonna be were wolves? 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:27.880 And Earla leans over to Marianna and says it's Stefan, 1:00:28.200 --> 1:00:31.080 and they both snort unhappily. So they are familiar with 1:00:31.120 --> 1:00:32.600 his work, so they do not approve. 1:00:32.840 --> 1:00:34.720 Yeah. I like how they they're setting him up though 1:00:34.720 --> 1:00:36.919 that like, this is not just a were wolf hunter 1:00:37.120 --> 1:00:41.040 or an or un occult investigator. This is a true 1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:45.280 enemy of the lichen thropes, and they they seem very 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:47.960 they seem very fearful of him and take his threat 1:00:48.080 --> 1:00:48.680 very seriously. 1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:51.440 I feel like this scene would make more sense if 1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:54.760 Stefan had come from out of town to this funeral, 1:00:54.800 --> 1:00:59.320 but he's just La based, which is odd. So Jenny 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:02.480 runs out after Christopher Lee and confronts him awkwardly through 1:01:02.480 --> 1:01:05.280 a wrought iron gate to ask him what he knows 1:01:05.320 --> 1:01:09.160 about Karen's death. Stephan says, I know that she is 1:01:09.200 --> 1:01:13.920 a werewolf, then walks away. And then there is a 1:01:13.960 --> 1:01:16.160 scene that happens many times in this film where a 1:01:16.280 --> 1:01:20.120 character tells another character what a different character just said. 1:01:21.120 --> 1:01:24.680 So Jenny tells Ben about the exchange. He doesn't believe it, 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:27.960 and then suddenly we cut to inside Karen's coffin and 1:01:28.000 --> 1:01:31.400 she is screaming and scratching at the wood. Then we're 1:01:31.440 --> 1:01:34.200 going to cut to the club. This is the music 1:01:34.240 --> 1:01:37.120 club scene we talked about earlier. This scene is a 1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:42.120 lot the plot relevant thing here is that there are 1:01:42.120 --> 1:01:45.320 these three creep hooligans who are hanging out at a 1:01:45.440 --> 1:01:48.840 music club. And it's that thing we've talked about before 1:01:48.960 --> 1:01:51.520 from movies from the eighties, like you get this in 1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:55.160 Return of the Living Dead, where it's a group of 1:01:55.200 --> 1:01:59.480 people but each one is dressed as a different fashion subculture. Yeah, 1:02:00.000 --> 1:02:02.080 so you've got three guys together and like one is 1:02:02.120 --> 1:02:04.919 a punk, one is a rocker, and one is new wave. 1:02:05.840 --> 1:02:08.760 But they're all creep hooligans. They're hanging out watching the band. 1:02:09.560 --> 1:02:13.360 They start talking to Marianna, who's there at the bar. 1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:17.160 She's the sneering lady from the funeral. They start making 1:02:17.240 --> 1:02:20.120 some vulgar passes at her and she's like, hey, I 1:02:20.240 --> 1:02:22.640 like these vulgar passes. I'm going to invite you to 1:02:22.680 --> 1:02:26.360 a second location. So they all join me warehouse and 1:02:26.480 --> 1:02:28.720 we'll see what happens. Yeah, they all leave together. But 1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:31.960 also here we're seeing the band perform. The band is 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:35.480 again called Babbel. They're this new wave band. The song 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:38.920 is called the Howling. I already sort of described the 1:02:38.960 --> 1:02:41.160 sound of it earlier. But they're up there jumping around 1:02:41.200 --> 1:02:45.439 on stage. The main singer is doing some he's got 1:02:45.440 --> 1:02:48.760 one of these like nerd rock star personas where he's 1:02:48.760 --> 1:02:52.840 wearing sunglasses and a new wave suit. He's got kind 1:02:52.840 --> 1:02:55.720 of goofy looking curly hair, and he's just jumping up 1:02:55.760 --> 1:02:59.720 and down, mugging at the at the audience. The lines 1:02:59.760 --> 1:03:02.240 that we here repeated a lot. In the song. The 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:05.240 chorus goes like, howling, howling, since the world. 1:03:05.000 --> 1:03:10.080 Began ancient werewolf's all right, now, did you get the 1:03:10.120 --> 1:03:13.520 sense that is he werewolf? Is this a werewolf band? 1:03:13.680 --> 1:03:15.120 Did they work for Steerba? 1:03:17.000 --> 1:03:17.800 Unclear? 1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:18.360 You? 1:03:18.760 --> 1:03:23.960 Yeah, So later in the film, they, through editing, create 1:03:24.040 --> 1:03:27.040 the impression that this band is playing at Steerba's castle, 1:03:28.040 --> 1:03:30.520 but they're just showing footage of the same scene of 1:03:30.560 --> 1:03:31.560 them playing at the club. 1:03:31.760 --> 1:03:34.120 Okay, all right, yeah, in the moment, it does make 1:03:34.160 --> 1:03:37.240 it seem like they're there, but yeah, the editing in 1:03:37.280 --> 1:03:39.840 this film is wild. We'll just cut to some close 1:03:39.880 --> 1:03:42.120 up on a werewolf transforming and then back to what's 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:43.000 actually happening. 1:03:43.600 --> 1:03:46.600 So most of the band here, they're all wearing sunglasses. 1:03:46.640 --> 1:03:48.400 I think maybe the key tar player is not, but 1:03:48.440 --> 1:03:50.400 the rest of them are wearing sunglasses. A lot of 1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:53.320 the people in the audience are wearing sunglasses. And then 1:03:53.360 --> 1:03:56.200 suddenly in the back of the club, we see Christopher 1:03:56.240 --> 1:03:59.720 Lee standing next to a light up Budweiser display and 1:03:59.760 --> 1:04:03.000 he acquiring his own sunglasses, almost like you have to 1:04:03.040 --> 1:04:05.040 have them to be admitted to the club. You know, 1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:08.600 these are our loner pair. So this lady's leaning across 1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:12.840 the counter putting sunglasses on his face. Not sure exactly 1:04:12.880 --> 1:04:17.160 what's going on there. But apart from the sunglasses, Christopher 1:04:17.240 --> 1:04:22.160 Ly's outfit here is bizarre. When you add the sunglasses in, 1:04:22.760 --> 1:04:27.640 he has a cyber snowboarding style. It is an outfit 1:04:27.960 --> 1:04:31.960 so far beneath Christopher Lely's dignity. It's almost all inspiring. 1:04:32.320 --> 1:04:35.080 It's like Sir Ian McKellen in cargo shorts and an 1:04:35.280 --> 1:04:36.040 ICP shirt. 1:04:36.200 --> 1:04:39.320 Yeah, these are like venice beat sunglasses. These are like 1:04:39.720 --> 1:04:42.480 they think those of you who are as old as 1:04:42.520 --> 1:04:45.120 I am, think about the back of the future to 1:04:45.440 --> 1:04:48.959 sunglasses you would get at Pizza Hut. That's the vibe here. 1:04:49.320 --> 1:04:53.080 Yeah. They are radical, rad tubular. 1:04:53.400 --> 1:04:55.840 Yeah, but you got to have them to hang out 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:56.440 in this club. 1:04:57.400 --> 1:05:01.200 Also, I like all the clearly fake graffiti on the 1:05:01.240 --> 1:05:05.360 walls here. It just does not feel like organic graffiti 1:05:05.400 --> 1:05:09.320 that somebody would leave up. That organic graffiti tends to 1:05:09.360 --> 1:05:13.560 be more personalized and obscure. It points away to different 1:05:13.560 --> 1:05:17.480 things that you would have to understand or know. Instead, 1:05:17.520 --> 1:05:19.640 the graffiti on the walls in this place says things 1:05:19.720 --> 1:05:21.680 like alien sex. 1:05:21.640 --> 1:05:26.280 Yeah yeah, some clear fake graffiti yeah again. The case 1:05:26.320 --> 1:05:30.640 here is that they they had to recreate an LA 1:05:30.920 --> 1:05:36.480 like slimy punk scene in then Czechoslovakia using whatever garbage 1:05:36.520 --> 1:05:38.600 they were able to ship in and whatever they were 1:05:38.640 --> 1:05:41.240 able to put together, you know, on location. 1:05:41.960 --> 1:05:45.240 So the three creeps leave the club with Mariana and 1:05:45.400 --> 1:05:48.520 with another woman, and they drive apparently all night until 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:52.480 they reach a dilapidated empty industrial building looks like it 1:05:52.520 --> 1:05:56.680 might be an old foundry or something, and Mariana goes inside. First, 1:05:56.840 --> 1:05:59.160 she stands in the middle of the big main room 1:05:59.200 --> 1:06:03.000 and starts wolf howling just out out o wooing, and 1:06:03.040 --> 1:06:06.280 then elsewhere we see a close up on some human 1:06:06.360 --> 1:06:09.800 ears that suddenly grow hairy and start becoming pointed. So 1:06:09.840 --> 1:06:14.080 I think Marianna is coming into the place and howling 1:06:14.120 --> 1:06:19.200 at other werewolves there to activate their werewolf mode. So 1:06:19.240 --> 1:06:23.920 the creeps follow inside, Marianna teases them, they turn nasty 1:06:24.000 --> 1:06:26.040 and they start making threats at her, and then in 1:06:26.120 --> 1:06:30.640 a hilarious twist, someone from off screen starts chucking objects 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:33.240 at the creeps, like the new wave guy named Deacon 1:06:33.320 --> 1:06:35.960 gets a bottle smashed on his head and then one 1:06:36.000 --> 1:06:37.920 of the other guys is in the middle of saying like, oh, 1:06:38.320 --> 1:06:40.800 you shouldn't make Deacon mad, and he gets pelted with 1:06:40.840 --> 1:06:42.680 this big piece of pipe. Yeah. 1:06:42.720 --> 1:06:44.920 I love that the werewolves have ranged attacks in this. 1:06:45.080 --> 1:06:48.520 You know, they don't come in like like hunting wolves. First, 1:06:48.520 --> 1:06:51.439 there's gonna be a They're gonna just throw a bunch 1:06:51.480 --> 1:06:53.080 of crap at you. I love it. Yeah. 1:06:53.320 --> 1:06:56.120 Then they go in for the bites. Yeah. So these 1:06:56.120 --> 1:06:58.600 guys get their weapons out. Deacon has a switchblade and 1:06:58.600 --> 1:07:01.200 the other guy's twirling a chain, so they're going into 1:07:01.200 --> 1:07:04.080 battle mode. But are these guys they're going to stand 1:07:04.120 --> 1:07:07.840 up to were wolf power? Obviously not so. Deacon tries 1:07:07.880 --> 1:07:10.640 to chase down Marianna, but when he finds her, she 1:07:10.720 --> 1:07:14.880 has now partially transformed into a wolf. She attacks him, 1:07:15.000 --> 1:07:17.480 and then his friends see his severed hand fall to 1:07:17.520 --> 1:07:21.440 the floor, still gripping the switchblade. The two other guys 1:07:21.480 --> 1:07:25.080 and the lady they start to freak out and scatter, 1:07:25.160 --> 1:07:27.280 but they can't escape. One by one, they get chased 1:07:27.320 --> 1:07:30.160 down and mulled by the wolf pack. One of them 1:07:30.160 --> 1:07:32.640 gets knocked off the roof of the factory, another gets 1:07:32.680 --> 1:07:35.320 hit by a falling box, and of course, all through 1:07:35.320 --> 1:07:38.560 the scene we're hearing the song again, the same song 1:07:38.600 --> 1:07:39.160 by Babbel. 1:07:39.840 --> 1:07:41.800 But this is pretty good. This is just were wolves 1:07:41.800 --> 1:07:43.800 eating human scum for the most part. 1:07:43.640 --> 1:07:46.600 Right, Yeah, so by horror movie logic, it should have 1:07:46.680 --> 1:07:51.040 known better. Yeah, So anyway, let's pay a visit to 1:07:51.120 --> 1:07:55.920 the occult Investigator. So Ben and Jenny are driving together. 1:07:56.000 --> 1:07:57.760 I don't know why they're riding together. Now, do these 1:07:57.760 --> 1:08:01.040 people previously know each other? I don't think. So they're 1:08:01.200 --> 1:08:04.520 driving together up a winding road in the hills, and 1:08:04.560 --> 1:08:07.479 we hear their conversation. They are heading out to meet 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:10.880 Stefan Steffan Crossco. Ben is like, why do you want 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:13.280 to talk to this crack pot? But he's already in 1:08:13.320 --> 1:08:17.759 the car on the way there, and Jenny says, because 1:08:17.760 --> 1:08:20.800 he knows something about Karen and because quote, it might 1:08:20.880 --> 1:08:23.960 be an incredible story. I guess, like for the news. 1:08:24.840 --> 1:08:29.240 Multiple times in this movie there are lines where that 1:08:29.760 --> 1:08:33.040 suggests that Jenny is involved in this story at all, 1:08:33.120 --> 1:08:38.280 because she has journalism related ambitions, but the performance does 1:08:38.320 --> 1:08:39.920 not sell these ambitions. 1:08:40.240 --> 1:08:42.320 Yeah, and do we see her take notes? Do we 1:08:42.400 --> 1:08:44.160 see her quotes or anything? 1:08:44.560 --> 1:08:48.920 Not at all. There's no journalism being done except I guess, 1:08:49.000 --> 1:08:51.320 well except I guess in the scene where she's talking 1:08:51.320 --> 1:08:53.960 to Stefan, But I don't recall her taking notes there either. 1:08:54.160 --> 1:08:54.360 Yeah. 1:08:54.960 --> 1:08:58.679 So anyway, maybe she's just vibe journalism, you know, I'll 1:08:58.800 --> 1:09:04.280 get a basic idea of So they go to his 1:09:04.320 --> 1:09:07.760 house and on the way there they have more conversations 1:09:07.800 --> 1:09:10.040 before they meet him, and the dialogue is full of 1:09:10.120 --> 1:09:13.360 awkward exposition for the benefit of the viewer. At one point, 1:09:13.479 --> 1:09:16.679 Jenny says, look, Ben, why don't you just go back 1:09:16.720 --> 1:09:21.400 to your sheriff's office in Montana? And he responds drawing 1:09:21.439 --> 1:09:24.000 his service revolver. He like pulls out a revolver and 1:09:24.000 --> 1:09:27.600 he says something else. Country boys know, when the varmints 1:09:27.600 --> 1:09:31.200 start knocking off the chickens, we start knocking off the varmints. 1:09:32.000 --> 1:09:34.000 And I was like, wait a minute, does he believe 1:09:34.000 --> 1:09:35.040 in the werewolves or not? 1:09:35.280 --> 1:09:37.880 If not, was he talking about Yeah, yeah, he's just 1:09:37.920 --> 1:09:39.920 talking about killing a bunch of people. I guess if 1:09:39.920 --> 1:09:43.200 he's not, If he's not come to believe in werewolves 1:09:43.240 --> 1:09:44.000 by this point. 1:09:44.120 --> 1:09:45.800 But what people would he be talking about? 1:09:46.360 --> 1:09:50.840 Whoever gets in his way? I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, 1:09:51.040 --> 1:09:52.040 pulled out a revolver. 1:09:52.240 --> 1:09:58.519 So also, there's just general wardrobe weirdness in this movie. 1:09:58.560 --> 1:10:01.280 I mean, so Christopher Lee, his wardrobe is pretty. He's 1:10:01.320 --> 1:10:03.920 just wearing a dark suit the whole time, but they've 1:10:03.920 --> 1:10:07.479 got reb brown in the denim tuxedo, so he's wearing 1:10:07.479 --> 1:10:10.360 a red gingham shirt, and then the whole movie from 1:10:10.400 --> 1:10:13.439 here on he's wearing blue jeans and a matching blue 1:10:13.479 --> 1:10:18.040 denim jacket, so he's just this column of blue. 1:10:17.760 --> 1:10:22.000 The budget was probably spent mostly on Sibyl's wardrobe. Yeah, 1:10:22.360 --> 1:10:24.320 everyone else, you know, you get what you get. 1:10:24.760 --> 1:10:29.439 Yeah. Any McEnroe's outfit is also strange and interesting. She's 1:10:29.479 --> 1:10:33.240 wearing a blue necktie and this red sweater vest that 1:10:33.439 --> 1:10:35.960 like is open in the front but joined at the waist. 1:10:36.000 --> 1:10:38.040 I don't know if I've ever seen a garment like 1:10:38.080 --> 1:10:40.280 that before, so I'm not even I don't know what 1:10:40.280 --> 1:10:47.760 that's called. But so, yeah, interesting costume choices for everyone involved. Basically, So, 1:10:47.920 --> 1:10:51.759 Jinny and Ben head into Crossco's house, where he invites 1:10:51.840 --> 1:10:54.200 them to sit in his living room full of candles 1:10:54.280 --> 1:10:59.479 and chemistry beakers, occult tomes, skeletons, prosthetic monster heads. It's 1:10:59.560 --> 1:11:02.719 just like sm Savini stopped by and brought his brought 1:11:02.720 --> 1:11:04.960 all his heads with him. It's got a bunch of 1:11:04.960 --> 1:11:08.439 tape recording and playback equipment, and he makes a pitch 1:11:08.520 --> 1:11:12.280 to them. He shows them a silver or no, he 1:11:12.320 --> 1:11:15.519 shows them like a wooden cigarette case full of silver bullets, 1:11:15.920 --> 1:11:18.799 and he tells them that Karen was killed by bullets 1:11:18.880 --> 1:11:23.200 like these. Quote. Unfortunately they were removed during the autopsy, 1:11:23.479 --> 1:11:25.920 and as a result, she can never rest in peace. 1:11:26.560 --> 1:11:27.559 Classic mistake. 1:11:28.040 --> 1:11:30.519 Yeah, well, this is the same logic that's in play 1:11:30.680 --> 1:11:33.679 in at least a couple of the Paul Nashy Werewolf 1:11:33.720 --> 1:11:36.720 movies where he gets shot by a silver bullet and 1:11:36.760 --> 1:11:40.080 then there's a medical examination, the silver bullets are removed, 1:11:40.360 --> 1:11:43.559 and then Valdemar Doninski can wake up and rampage again. 1:11:43.880 --> 1:11:46.400 I know this is exactly what happens at the beginning 1:11:46.439 --> 1:11:49.160 of the Werewolf versus the Vampire Women, and I recall 1:11:49.200 --> 1:11:51.920 at least another one of the least saying things. Yea, 1:11:52.240 --> 1:11:58.559 the same thing happens Anyway, When Crossco reiterates that Karen 1:11:58.640 --> 1:12:01.439 was a werewolf, Ben l laughs at him and suggests 1:12:01.479 --> 1:12:05.559 he is insane, but Crossco becomes deadly serious, and he says, 1:12:06.080 --> 1:12:09.479 even now there are great numbers of werewolves living secretly 1:12:09.520 --> 1:12:12.080 among us. Your sister was working on a story about 1:12:12.120 --> 1:12:14.680 one such group and was transformed. 1:12:15.280 --> 1:12:17.880 And if we did mention already, they are referring to 1:12:18.560 --> 1:12:21.800 what happened in the first Howling movie. There is this 1:12:21.840 --> 1:12:23.400 connection between the two films. 1:12:23.680 --> 1:12:26.240 Yeah, so we'll get to more in just a second here. 1:12:26.280 --> 1:12:30.280 But so he explains that after Karen became infected by 1:12:30.320 --> 1:12:34.280 a werewolf fight, she intentionally arranged to be killed with 1:12:34.360 --> 1:12:37.759 a silver bullet on camera so that she could escape 1:12:37.760 --> 1:12:41.040 her cursed fate. And I guess so that also people 1:12:41.080 --> 1:12:44.080 could see what was happening. But now that the silver 1:12:44.120 --> 1:12:46.920 has been taken out her, she's damned once again, and 1:12:47.120 --> 1:12:49.599 the only way that they can help help her achieve 1:12:49.720 --> 1:12:53.960 rest is with a spike to the heart. Also to 1:12:54.080 --> 1:12:58.520 convince the two of them, Crossco plays the secret videotape 1:12:58.560 --> 1:13:02.799 of Karen's final nightly news show. Also, every time Christopher 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:07.240 Lee says the name Karen, he pronounces it like kaw Red, 1:13:07.680 --> 1:13:10.160 like it's a fantasy name from Lord of the Rings, 1:13:10.640 --> 1:13:14.800 Like he doesn't just say like Karen. So this is 1:13:14.800 --> 1:13:18.880 the videotape of kaw Reds last night where so she's 1:13:18.920 --> 1:13:22.479 a news anchor. She's seated behind the desk. She starts 1:13:22.880 --> 1:13:26.120 going wolf mode and then somebody shoots her. And this 1:13:26.280 --> 1:13:29.640 is indeed how the previous movie ended. And there's a 1:13:29.680 --> 1:13:31.639 stinger kind of at the end, like a humorous ending 1:13:31.680 --> 1:13:34.600 after that, because it's broadcast, like everybody sees it on 1:13:34.640 --> 1:13:37.559 their TVs. But then people are just like, ah, they'll 1:13:37.560 --> 1:13:43.480 do any gimmick with special effects these days. Nobody believes it. Yeah. 1:13:43.520 --> 1:13:46.320 And then also while they're watching the videotape of the 1:13:46.360 --> 1:13:50.880 werewolf on the news, reb Brown starts tearing up. And 1:13:51.000 --> 1:13:54.439 after this, chrispher Lee shows them a bunch of what 1:13:54.479 --> 1:13:58.160 looked like surveillance camera photos of the character Marianna, and 1:13:58.240 --> 1:14:01.559 he explains that this woman who is at car Red's 1:14:01.600 --> 1:14:04.920 funeral is a were wolf too, and they say she's 1:14:05.040 --> 1:14:08.679 especially vicious, even more dangerous than most were wolves because 1:14:08.720 --> 1:14:13.320 she is immune to silver. First, that's like, oh, no, 1:14:13.960 --> 1:14:16.760 silver is like the one thing we know will definitely 1:14:16.800 --> 1:14:18.479 work to kill a were wolf. So how can you 1:14:18.479 --> 1:14:21.360 beat her if she's immune to silver. There's one thing 1:14:21.400 --> 1:14:25.280 that can stop her, titanium. It's a different metal. 1:14:25.960 --> 1:14:28.320 Yeah, I guess it's playing with this logic that like 1:14:28.400 --> 1:14:31.160 titanium is this is super metal. It's like, if silver 1:14:31.320 --> 1:14:34.439 can't do it, you got to turn to titanium. I 1:14:34.439 --> 1:14:36.479 don't know are there other metals on the periodic table 1:14:36.479 --> 1:14:38.240 that would work. I don't know. We don't get any 1:14:38.240 --> 1:14:38.880 answers here. 1:14:39.880 --> 1:14:43.080 I don't know the relative price or rarity of these metals, 1:14:43.080 --> 1:14:44.479 but it would seem to me it can't be that 1:14:44.640 --> 1:14:47.960 much harder to get a titanium weapon made than a 1:14:47.960 --> 1:14:48.719 silver weapon. 1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:52.439 The only metal that can kill this werewolf is a 1:14:52.560 --> 1:14:56.679 steak of solid mercury. That would be good. 1:14:56.880 --> 1:14:59.080 Oh, because then at room temperature would be liquid. 1:14:59.080 --> 1:14:59.559 It's useless. 1:14:59.640 --> 1:15:04.479 Yeah, yeah, that's actually great. Somebody should use that, everybody 1:15:04.520 --> 1:15:05.840 who's listening. He said it first. 1:15:06.120 --> 1:15:08.559 I give it to the world. Do with it what 1:15:08.600 --> 1:15:08.960 you will. 1:15:18.720 --> 1:15:21.920 So crossco says that were wolves will never allow another 1:15:21.960 --> 1:15:25.680 werewolf to remain buried in consecrated ground. So tonight, Marianna 1:15:25.720 --> 1:15:27.519 and the other wolves in her coven, they're going to 1:15:27.600 --> 1:15:30.920 be coming to collect Karen's body, and he promises that 1:15:31.240 --> 1:15:33.240 he's going to protect her. He says, I will prevent 1:15:33.280 --> 1:15:36.479 this blasphemy, and he holds up a big sharp knitting needle. 1:15:36.520 --> 1:15:40.040 I guess this is either silver or titanium. But in 1:15:40.080 --> 1:15:42.200 this movie, you kill a were wolf by driving a 1:15:42.200 --> 1:15:46.240 metal steak through its heart. So it's getting a little vampirey. Yeah. 1:15:46.680 --> 1:15:49.759 As we've covered before, it is often these various places 1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:53.360 where the werewolf and the vampire overlap, and we actually 1:15:53.400 --> 1:15:56.760 see that in folklore as well. That's true, so it's 1:15:56.840 --> 1:16:00.360 not completely without president. He also does some more exposition here. 1:16:00.400 --> 1:16:03.080 He tells Ben and Jenny that the were wolves have 1:16:03.120 --> 1:16:06.360 a leader. It is a woman named Steerbaugh, and he 1:16:06.439 --> 1:16:09.360 says at the next full moon quote it will be 1:16:09.400 --> 1:16:12.960 the tenth millennium of Steerba's birth. At midnight on that. 1:16:13.040 --> 1:16:18.480 Day, all were wolves will reveal themselves. All the transformations 1:16:18.520 --> 1:16:23.559 have already begun. The process of evolution is reversed. And 1:16:23.640 --> 1:16:24.920 for a second I thought it was going to cut 1:16:24.920 --> 1:16:28.000 away to Ben saying I don't believe in evolution, but 1:16:28.360 --> 1:16:30.200 Christopher Lee goes on to say he says there are 1:16:30.200 --> 1:16:33.559 many stages before men becomes a beast. Before that happens, 1:16:33.640 --> 1:16:36.680 Steerba must be must be destroyed, and I will do it. 1:16:37.439 --> 1:16:40.160 So at this point I was confused. So is he 1:16:40.280 --> 1:16:44.680 saying at midnight on that day Steerba. If Steerba is 1:16:44.720 --> 1:16:48.800 not destroyed, evolution will be reversed because the werewolves will 1:16:48.840 --> 1:16:52.559 all simultaneously go wolf mode? Like is that all he means? 1:16:53.200 --> 1:16:56.560 Or does he actually mean all evolution will be reversed 1:16:56.720 --> 1:16:59.760 and so everything will just like revert to its its 1:16:59.760 --> 1:17:00.720 an ancestors. 1:17:01.160 --> 1:17:03.200 I mean, I guess it's that right, I mean the 1:17:03.240 --> 1:17:06.479 stakes are high. 1:17:05.680 --> 1:17:08.080 He suggests worldwide implication. 1:17:08.240 --> 1:17:12.519 Yeah, like all humans will become wolves or something like 1:17:12.560 --> 1:17:14.599 a wolf or some sort of something like a wolf. 1:17:15.080 --> 1:17:17.120 Humans evolved from wolves, as we all know. 1:17:18.200 --> 1:17:22.200 Maybe so within the context of this film, it's possible. 1:17:22.880 --> 1:17:25.000 I guess. Maybe it's just meaning like we revert to 1:17:25.200 --> 1:17:34.040 weird little quadrupedal synapsids pre Triassic era. So Jenny, Jenny 1:17:34.080 --> 1:17:37.000 takes the silver bullets from Stefan and they leave, and 1:17:37.040 --> 1:17:39.720 then there's a scene where Ben and Jenny just sort 1:17:39.760 --> 1:17:42.479 of review all of the exposition they've already taken in, 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:46.760 with Ben making derisive and skeptical comments throughout. Also at 1:17:46.760 --> 1:17:49.479 the end of this conversation, he says he will kill Stefan. 1:17:50.439 --> 1:17:54.720 I don't know why, but did you want to hear 1:17:54.760 --> 1:17:58.000 that song again by Babbel in the pale, pale light? 1:17:58.479 --> 1:18:00.519 So it fires up, and then we fall Be and 1:18:00.600 --> 1:18:04.200 Jenny as they returned to the cemetery at night. Ben 1:18:04.280 --> 1:18:08.120 has come armed with a rifle. He gives Jenny a pistol. 1:18:08.680 --> 1:18:11.040 I guess we can assume that they put silver bullets 1:18:11.080 --> 1:18:13.800 in both of them, which is confusing because Ben is 1:18:13.840 --> 1:18:16.000 saying he doesn't believe in this, but he is using 1:18:16.080 --> 1:18:19.960 the silver bullets. Our heroes find the gate hanging open, 1:18:20.040 --> 1:18:22.400 and they hear wolves howling in the distance, and then 1:18:22.400 --> 1:18:25.160 they're creeping through the woods to Karen's grave, and we 1:18:25.240 --> 1:18:28.320 keep hearing the same wolf howl sample, and Jenny is like, 1:18:28.400 --> 1:18:29.520 I think it's coyotes. 1:18:29.680 --> 1:18:31.519 Yeah, yeah, codies sound like that. Sure. 1:18:32.920 --> 1:18:35.960 And here is where I mentioned earlier that there are 1:18:36.000 --> 1:18:39.439 actually some quite nice looking horror shots, and there are 1:18:39.439 --> 1:18:42.439 a couple in this scene, Like there's one where we 1:18:42.479 --> 1:18:45.000 see the woods in the dark, and then there's a 1:18:45.080 --> 1:18:47.880 kind of soft light from the distance, and then the 1:18:47.880 --> 1:18:50.639 middle distance is filled with fog and through a gap 1:18:50.680 --> 1:18:53.080 in the trees and the vine. Suddenly we see the 1:18:53.120 --> 1:18:56.280 silhouette of this hairy beast sloping through the mists toward us. 1:18:56.280 --> 1:19:00.600 It looks great. Yeah yeah. Inside the mausoleum, Stephan is 1:19:00.600 --> 1:19:03.799 already there. He's kneeling over Karen's open coffin. He's praying 1:19:03.800 --> 1:19:07.519 to God. His prayer includes the sentence protect us O 1:19:07.680 --> 1:19:10.759 Lord from the evil of man and the malevolence of beast. 1:19:11.280 --> 1:19:14.120 So he prays to Jesus Christ that Karen's body be 1:19:14.160 --> 1:19:16.760 purified of all evil. He flicks a bit of holy 1:19:16.840 --> 1:19:19.000 water on her, and he's getting ready to drive the 1:19:19.040 --> 1:19:22.760 steak into her heart. Meanwhile, outside the mausoleum, Ben and 1:19:22.840 --> 1:19:26.600 Jenny are approaching and they get surprised by a snarling werewolf. 1:19:27.240 --> 1:19:29.680 We again do not get a good look with perspective. 1:19:29.760 --> 1:19:31.559 A lot of the early shots here are just these 1:19:31.600 --> 1:19:36.679 extreme closeups of teeth, snout, and fur. And when Ben 1:19:36.760 --> 1:19:39.280 sees the werewolf, he shoots at it, but of course 1:19:39.360 --> 1:19:45.840 he doesn't just shoot. He screams, is good, so good, pure, 1:19:46.080 --> 1:19:49.840 pure red brown. I love it. And then after he 1:19:49.880 --> 1:19:52.240 shoots at the were wolf a bunch of times, he screams. 1:19:52.080 --> 1:19:54.640 Go right behind you can. 1:19:55.960 --> 1:19:59.519 So Ben and Jenny bust into the mausoleum just as 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:02.599 Stephan is about to stake Karen's body and Ben stops him. 1:20:02.640 --> 1:20:04.639 He's threatening him. He's like, if you touch my sister, 1:20:04.680 --> 1:20:07.800 I'll blow you away. But wait, he doesn't believe in 1:20:07.840 --> 1:20:10.759 were wolves still, he just shot one with silver bullets. 1:20:11.560 --> 1:20:12.720 Yeah. 1:20:12.760 --> 1:20:17.000 Anyway, the situation resolves itself because Karen suddenly wakes up. 1:20:17.120 --> 1:20:20.639 She has They're all standing right there around her, but somehow, 1:20:20.640 --> 1:20:23.479 without them noticing, she has gone fully into beast mode 1:20:23.520 --> 1:20:27.639 issues She's covered in hair. She attacks crossco Several other 1:20:27.680 --> 1:20:30.400 were wolves attack from all directions, and I guess this 1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:33.880 is finally all the convincing that Ben needs. Because our 1:20:33.920 --> 1:20:37.080 heroes work together to fight off the were wolves. Ben 1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:40.960 keeps screeching anytime he's about to blast one. There's a 1:20:41.000 --> 1:20:46.200 really funny looking, funny fight moment where they close werewolf 1:20:46.280 --> 1:20:49.880 Karen inside her coffin by forcing the lid down on her. 1:20:50.200 --> 1:20:52.800 But the lid has a glass window, so they're just 1:20:52.840 --> 1:20:55.519 putting the lid down and she's inside like all furry 1:20:55.560 --> 1:21:00.360 scratching at the window. I don't know. So they chase 1:21:00.439 --> 1:21:03.640 one of the injured werewolves outside as he is transforming 1:21:03.680 --> 1:21:06.559 back into his human form, and this is the one 1:21:06.600 --> 1:21:10.000 we met earlier named Erla. Cross Co interrogates him to 1:21:10.080 --> 1:21:13.439 learn the whereabouts of Steerba, and the answer is the 1:21:13.600 --> 1:21:17.280 Dark Country, and we will later learn this means Transylvania, 1:21:17.880 --> 1:21:20.000 though actually it's shot in Czechoslovakia. 1:21:20.120 --> 1:21:22.600 Yeah, and we've been in Czechoslovakia for most of the 1:21:22.640 --> 1:21:27.320 scenes thus far. So yeah, it seems so we don't 1:21:27.360 --> 1:21:31.040 necessarily get that feeling of transport across the globe here. 1:21:31.400 --> 1:21:34.160 Yeah. Erla begs to be released from his curse and 1:21:34.280 --> 1:21:38.200 cross Coo stakes him. Meanwhile, we see Marianna. She's shown 1:21:38.280 --> 1:21:41.080 watching from a distance, dragging her wolf nails over a 1:21:41.120 --> 1:21:44.400 tombstone in a sensual manner, like she just loves death. 1:21:45.920 --> 1:21:49.200 So after this, it seems Karen is finally peacefully laid 1:21:49.240 --> 1:21:52.920 to rest, and outside the cemetery gate, Crossco tells Ben 1:21:52.960 --> 1:21:54.960 and Jenny that he's got to go to Transylvania to 1:21:55.000 --> 1:21:57.720 track down Steerba because she is the source of it all. 1:21:58.439 --> 1:22:01.519 Ben says, Stephan, I'd like to go with you. It's 1:22:01.560 --> 1:22:05.080 a very hard turn into like now he's all in. 1:22:05.439 --> 1:22:07.200 He says he wants to make sure that what happened 1:22:07.200 --> 1:22:09.840 to his sister, never happens to anybody again. And then 1:22:09.880 --> 1:22:12.799 he says, I'm with you right to the end. Whatever 1:22:12.880 --> 1:22:18.080 it is said. Oh, Jenny also says, so am I 1:22:19.200 --> 1:22:22.080 Ben then mocks her. He's like, oh, she just wants 1:22:22.080 --> 1:22:24.400 to write something and win the Pulitzer Prize. And she 1:22:24.439 --> 1:22:26.160 says yes, among other things. 1:22:26.400 --> 1:22:28.360 I mean, who doesn't want to win the Pulitzer Prize 1:22:28.400 --> 1:22:31.000 and werewolf journalism it's highly coveted. 1:22:31.760 --> 1:22:34.360 The way she says, among other things implies she wants 1:22:34.400 --> 1:22:37.760 to write something and win the Pulitzer Prize among other prizes. 1:22:38.920 --> 1:22:41.200 Yeah, I mean, yeah, what is the There's got to 1:22:41.240 --> 1:22:44.760 be an egot except Pultzer Prize in various other awards. 1:22:45.200 --> 1:22:47.760 So it's off to the dark country. It's time for 1:22:47.840 --> 1:22:51.759 the Transylvania Montage. So we see morbid old churches covered 1:22:51.760 --> 1:22:55.840 in these weird skeletons and emblems of death. There's rob 1:22:55.880 --> 1:22:59.720 I think you mentioned earlier, a Prague astrological clock. Ye, 1:23:00.120 --> 1:23:03.160 like a clock tower with this face that includes these 1:23:03.200 --> 1:23:08.000 gold circles and astrological symbols. And then an old steam 1:23:08.040 --> 1:23:10.840 engine comes chugging through the forest and arrives at a 1:23:10.880 --> 1:23:16.000 small mountain village called Volcava, so I looked up Volcava. 1:23:16.120 --> 1:23:19.080 It is actually the name of a real village in 1:23:19.120 --> 1:23:22.400 the Bohemian region of the Czech Republic. So I imagine 1:23:22.439 --> 1:23:25.240 this might be actually where they shot parts of the movie. 1:23:25.840 --> 1:23:29.479 It's fairly close to Prague. This, of course, is not 1:23:29.600 --> 1:23:33.400 in Transylvania, which is a region of Romania, not the 1:23:33.400 --> 1:23:37.040 Czech Republic. When the train arrives, we see Mariana get 1:23:37.040 --> 1:23:40.000 off the train. She's wearing dark sunglasses and a black 1:23:40.080 --> 1:23:43.599 leather suit with no shirt under the blazer. She meets 1:23:43.640 --> 1:23:46.960 a guy in a pinstripe suit waiting on the train platform. 1:23:47.280 --> 1:23:50.280 They say hello by sniffing each other, and he tells 1:23:50.280 --> 1:23:52.320 her that Steerba is very anxious to meet her, so 1:23:52.400 --> 1:23:54.360 together they climb into the back of a truck with 1:23:54.400 --> 1:23:56.920 a tarp covered bed, along with a bunch of other people, 1:23:56.960 --> 1:24:01.200 presumably all were wolves. Yeah, just the truck, And in 1:24:01.240 --> 1:24:03.439 a few minutes we see this truck. They say like, ooh, 1:24:03.439 --> 1:24:05.680 we didn't arrange any lunch. But then we see them 1:24:05.760 --> 1:24:08.240 drive by a couple of German hitch hikers who are 1:24:08.680 --> 1:24:11.120 they're like hiking in these tight shorts and singing a 1:24:11.160 --> 1:24:13.720 German song and they they're like, oh, yeah, I get 1:24:13.720 --> 1:24:15.440 in the back of the truck and then they immediately 1:24:15.479 --> 1:24:18.760 start eating them and the driver declares schnitzel ah oh 1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:23.000 the Broughton so Ben and Jenny are also in town. 1:24:23.000 --> 1:24:26.400 They're driving around a mountain road with Christopher Lee. Christopher 1:24:26.479 --> 1:24:29.200 Lee is sitting awkwardly in the back of this tiny car, 1:24:29.240 --> 1:24:32.600 looking kind of pained and with his eyes closed, like 1:24:32.640 --> 1:24:36.840 he's carsick or something. Then we finally get to the 1:24:36.880 --> 1:24:39.439 first steer by scene. This is really what everything's been 1:24:39.479 --> 1:24:43.639 working up to. So we cut to this ancient stone 1:24:43.720 --> 1:24:46.839 castle in the forest where in one of the great halls, 1:24:47.000 --> 1:24:51.400 the Wolf Coven is holding a festival of sadism and decadence, 1:24:51.840 --> 1:24:57.240 complete with these creepy metal helmed guards holding crossbows. They're 1:24:57.280 --> 1:25:00.719 shirtless with black pants and the helmets on. They're standing 1:25:00.720 --> 1:25:04.880 in the dark outside. Inside you got huge roaring fires everywhere. 1:25:05.640 --> 1:25:08.439 This music, which is I think finally here it is 1:25:08.479 --> 1:25:11.800 not the Babbel song. Instead, it is a guy in 1:25:11.880 --> 1:25:14.759 a fur hat pounding on a big drum with a mallet, 1:25:15.120 --> 1:25:18.479 and then there's this a tonal chanting. You've got a 1:25:18.520 --> 1:25:20.559 stone altar in the middle of the room. You gotta 1:25:20.560 --> 1:25:23.799 have that, A bunch of half naked wolf people wearing 1:25:23.960 --> 1:25:28.760 random patchworks of metal armor and black leather straps. You've 1:25:28.800 --> 1:25:31.120 got some chained up human prisoners. 1:25:30.840 --> 1:25:33.320 All gingers, I think, all wearing panties of some sort 1:25:33.360 --> 1:25:33.759 or another. 1:25:34.080 --> 1:25:37.799 I think so. And then infernal paintings in the Bosh 1:25:37.840 --> 1:25:42.880 and Goya style all over the walls. So Marianna is 1:25:42.920 --> 1:25:46.120 there at the ceremony, and it is being presided over 1:25:46.240 --> 1:25:49.000 by a crone dressed in furs and a long, dark 1:25:49.040 --> 1:25:52.559 cloak cloak. She's like an ancient witch. Eventually, a man 1:25:52.640 --> 1:25:56.679 named Vlad brings an unconscious woman dressed in a white 1:25:56.720 --> 1:25:59.479 gown into the room. Laser down on the stone altar, 1:26:00.320 --> 1:26:03.880 the Vlad pours a big bowl of blood out over 1:26:03.920 --> 1:26:07.000 the unconscious woman. Then the crone leans over her face 1:26:07.040 --> 1:26:10.680 and sucks some green animation out of her mouth. Then 1:26:10.720 --> 1:26:15.240 everybody starts howling and chanting steer Ba, steer Ba. And 1:26:15.360 --> 1:26:17.599 there's a kind of cool cutaway here to some imagery 1:26:17.640 --> 1:26:20.920 of a wax face melting in a fire. And then 1:26:20.920 --> 1:26:23.800 when Steerba finally stands up once again from leaning over 1:26:23.880 --> 1:26:25.920 the woman, she is no longer a crone. She is 1:26:25.960 --> 1:26:30.559 Sybil Danning, and she not only has transformed in body 1:26:30.680 --> 1:26:33.800 into Sybil Danning, she has transformed in accent, so now 1:26:33.840 --> 1:26:36.320 she no longer has the same accents. She talks like 1:26:36.360 --> 1:26:40.719 Sybil dan She's now got the sharp cheekbones, big hair. 1:26:40.960 --> 1:26:44.280 She rips her cloak off and shows everyone her magically 1:26:44.320 --> 1:26:47.760 rejuvenated body and they all keep howling, and then we 1:26:47.800 --> 1:26:50.120 see the woman she sucked the life out of now 1:26:50.200 --> 1:26:56.559 reduced to a withered, decomposed corpse. So after this ritual scene, 1:26:56.640 --> 1:27:00.160 it transitions via a double peel away wipe. There's some 1:27:00.200 --> 1:27:02.320 great whites in this movie, by the way, and they 1:27:02.400 --> 1:27:05.080 keep changing it up. It's always a different wipe. It 1:27:05.280 --> 1:27:09.559 transitions into the much commented upon Werewolf three way sex 1:27:09.600 --> 1:27:15.240 scene where Steerba, Marianna, and Vlad all take turns kissing 1:27:15.320 --> 1:27:18.760 and grabbing on each other while becoming increasingly hairy and 1:27:18.800 --> 1:27:23.840 occasionally snarling and a wooing. And my memory is that 1:27:23.880 --> 1:27:26.280 this goes on for like the entire middle third of 1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:28.960 the movie, so you'll have other action happening and then 1:27:29.000 --> 1:27:31.080 it just cuts back to the were wolf sex. 1:27:31.439 --> 1:27:34.720 It's pretty great. I love this scene and some of 1:27:34.720 --> 1:27:38.000 the behind the scenes details about it. They're pretty interesting. 1:27:38.560 --> 1:27:40.519 Johnson gets into some of these on the on the 1:27:40.520 --> 1:27:44.040 Blu Ray. I think for starters, there would have been 1:27:44.040 --> 1:27:47.479 a better way to get these three actors in their 1:27:47.560 --> 1:27:52.080 kind of werewolf mode, like some sort of spandex covered 1:27:52.120 --> 1:27:54.719 with hair or you know, some other sort of approach. 1:27:55.040 --> 1:27:57.559 But no, they had to manually glue all of the 1:27:57.640 --> 1:28:02.040 hair onto their bodies, which apparently took forever and was 1:28:02.120 --> 1:28:04.200 just like the effects. Guys were like, this is not 1:28:04.240 --> 1:28:06.000 a good use of time. It's gonna take forever to 1:28:06.040 --> 1:28:08.840 do this. And then once this is all applied, when 1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:12.000 these werewolves are rolling around with each other and I 1:28:12.000 --> 1:28:15.720 guess should be like caressing each other, they can't actually 1:28:15.880 --> 1:28:19.479 touch each other because they peel the hair off. So 1:28:19.840 --> 1:28:23.800 the the werewolf threesome scene has this strange vibe to 1:28:23.840 --> 1:28:27.639 it where they're they're like, I'm almost touching You're almost 1:28:27.680 --> 1:28:30.920 touching me. It's it's weird, but it but then the 1:28:31.000 --> 1:28:34.120 lighting is great. It's it's got its own super weird energy. 1:28:34.160 --> 1:28:34.800 So I love it. 1:28:35.080 --> 1:28:39.920 Yeah, that is exactly what It's like a lot of almost. Yeah. 1:28:39.960 --> 1:28:43.160 So after this there is the scene of the road ambush, 1:28:43.240 --> 1:28:45.800 which was funny in a couple of ways. So Ben, 1:28:45.920 --> 1:28:49.240 Jinny and Stefan are driving along the mountain roads until 1:28:49.240 --> 1:28:51.559 they roll up on a big crowd standing in the 1:28:51.560 --> 1:28:54.280 middle of the road. There's a lady lying down in 1:28:54.320 --> 1:28:57.360 the street, and then a priest in the crowd says 1:28:57.400 --> 1:28:59.600 that she was hit by a car, and then the 1:28:59.680 --> 1:29:02.519 all the just walk away. But it's a trap. The 1:29:02.600 --> 1:29:05.040 lady is a werewolf, and just as she starts to 1:29:05.120 --> 1:29:08.920 wolf power up, Crossco sees what's happening and stakes her 1:29:08.920 --> 1:29:12.040 with a silver dagger, and then Crossco leaves and tells 1:29:12.080 --> 1:29:13.640 Ben and Jenny that he's going to meet them in 1:29:13.680 --> 1:29:16.280 the village. Ben and Jenny get back in the car 1:29:16.360 --> 1:29:19.439 and start to drive away when Jenny, from out of nowhere, 1:29:19.439 --> 1:29:22.599 whips out this big flask and starts having a glug 1:29:22.640 --> 1:29:25.200 of whatever's in there. And then there's a werewolf in 1:29:25.240 --> 1:29:25.759 the backseat. 1:29:25.840 --> 1:29:27.240 Oh no, oh my god. 1:29:27.360 --> 1:29:30.760 Yes, so Ben shoots it, and then they almost drive 1:29:30.840 --> 1:29:33.439 their car off the road into a ravine, but they 1:29:33.439 --> 1:29:35.719 stop at the last second, and then there's a spiral 1:29:35.800 --> 1:29:41.200 wipe and yeah. Then there's of course more of what 1:29:41.240 --> 1:29:43.240 the were wolves are getting up to, trying not to 1:29:43.280 --> 1:29:46.600 mess up each other's body. Hair prosthetics, and after this 1:29:46.880 --> 1:29:51.479 a diamond wipe. And then finally Ben and Jenny arrive 1:29:51.560 --> 1:29:54.200 in town, in the village of Volcava, and it really 1:29:54.280 --> 1:29:56.640 lays out the scene. So there's this cobbled street in 1:29:56.680 --> 1:29:59.200 the middle of town. The locals are decorating for the 1:29:59.200 --> 1:30:02.759 festival of the with garlands strung up between the buildings 1:30:02.800 --> 1:30:05.559 over the road, and you've got vendors setting up stalls 1:30:05.600 --> 1:30:09.000 with flowers and animal pelts and food. There are people 1:30:09.120 --> 1:30:12.280 dancing in brightly colored costumes. When we zoom in on them, 1:30:12.320 --> 1:30:14.640 we realize some of these dancers are were wolves in 1:30:14.720 --> 1:30:19.040 human form. There are goats roaming about, old men smoking cigarettes, 1:30:19.160 --> 1:30:22.240 and then this kind of shady looking guy hunched in 1:30:22.320 --> 1:30:25.240 a doorway in sunglasses with an owl. He's just got 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:29.559 an owl perched on his wrist. So Ben and Jenny 1:30:29.640 --> 1:30:33.120 get checked into the hotel. The hotel is obviously run 1:30:33.160 --> 1:30:35.360 by were wolves. All the dudes in the lobby start 1:30:35.400 --> 1:30:38.759 licking their lips when they walk in, and Ben tries 1:30:38.800 --> 1:30:42.000 to first get them separate rooms, but Jenny is like, no, 1:30:42.200 --> 1:30:45.280 we want one room. This comes out of nowhere. I 1:30:45.280 --> 1:30:48.479 don't recall any scene in the first act with any 1:30:48.520 --> 1:30:51.320 indication that she likes him, or that they're you know, 1:30:51.439 --> 1:30:56.680 even really becoming friendly, much less falling in love. But 1:30:56.880 --> 1:30:59.400 I guess now that they're in Transylvania, Jenny's heart beats 1:30:59.439 --> 1:31:03.519 only for Red Brown. So the hotel manager gives them 1:31:03.560 --> 1:31:06.240 a room and says that his nephew, Tondo, will take 1:31:06.280 --> 1:31:08.400 them up there. It's a room number six six six, 1:31:08.520 --> 1:31:11.240 of course it is, yeah, and he gives a very 1:31:11.280 --> 1:31:15.679 toothy grin, and after they go up to their room, 1:31:15.880 --> 1:31:19.320 Tondo tells Ben that he's an excellent local guide. I 1:31:19.360 --> 1:31:22.280 do like this weird hotel. The interiors are pretty nice. 1:31:22.320 --> 1:31:24.680 I wonder where this was filmed. I didn't look that 1:31:24.760 --> 1:31:25.120 one up. 1:31:25.280 --> 1:31:26.800 Yeah, it might have been the hotel that they were 1:31:26.840 --> 1:31:30.160 staying in, the one where where Sybil, Danny and Christopher 1:31:30.240 --> 1:31:34.360 Lee have dinner every night, and apparently Christopher Lee one 1:31:34.400 --> 1:31:36.719 of them. Is something Steve Johnson shared and his extras 1:31:36.760 --> 1:31:40.559 is that Christopher Lee really liked to talk and would 1:31:40.720 --> 1:31:43.000 talk to anybody and share all these stories about the 1:31:43.000 --> 1:31:44.960 old days, which is great. And you know that people 1:31:44.960 --> 1:31:47.120 love Christopher Lee and he's a wealth of knowledge. But 1:31:48.360 --> 1:31:50.120 you had these guys working on the film, like the 1:31:50.160 --> 1:31:52.439 effects guys especially, and they had so much to do. 1:31:52.520 --> 1:31:55.240 They were like having to dodge Christopher Lee because they 1:31:55.240 --> 1:31:57.920 were like, you can get into a conversation with him, 1:31:57.920 --> 1:31:59.160 you're not going to get out of it. We've got 1:31:59.400 --> 1:32:00.920 We're just so overclocked here. 1:32:01.400 --> 1:32:04.120 That's funny. Christopher Lee won't stop talking to me. It's 1:32:04.160 --> 1:32:05.120 a great problem to have. 1:32:05.360 --> 1:32:07.960 Yeah. Yeah, Like Johnson was like, you know, looking back 1:32:08.040 --> 1:32:10.240 on it, it's like so weird because you know, it's 1:32:10.280 --> 1:32:13.320 Christopher Lee. He's a legend. It's like you in retrospect, 1:32:13.400 --> 1:32:15.040 you would want to listen to all of that stuff, 1:32:15.080 --> 1:32:16.559 but in the moment, there was just so much to 1:32:16.600 --> 1:32:18.040 do you just didn't have time for it. 1:32:27.000 --> 1:32:29.000 So anyway, once Ben and Jenny get to their room, 1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:31.840 Jenny whips out this big wreath of garlic bulbs that 1:32:31.880 --> 1:32:33.800 she had in her suitcase, and then she just starts 1:32:33.880 --> 1:32:35.880 kissing on Ben. I guess they're in love. Now. 1:32:36.080 --> 1:32:38.599 Can you bring that much garlic on an international flight? 1:32:39.000 --> 1:32:40.080 I don't know, I don't know. 1:32:40.080 --> 1:32:44.360 Maybe they went by boat. So while they're going at it, 1:32:44.560 --> 1:32:47.639 we see the werewolf dancers down in the street below, 1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:50.719 and one of them starts sniffing the air and giving 1:32:50.720 --> 1:32:53.880 these cute little mini howls in the direction of the hotel, 1:32:53.920 --> 1:32:56.479 almost like he's really happy for them. He's like, oh, 1:32:56.520 --> 1:32:58.080 great for them. They found love. 1:32:59.520 --> 1:33:00.599 So the next. 1:33:00.439 --> 1:33:05.240 Scene, Ginny and Ben meet back up with Stephan at 1:33:05.280 --> 1:33:09.320 a church. Stephan explains that many people in the village 1:33:09.360 --> 1:33:12.040 are in league with evil and they're being watched wherever 1:33:12.120 --> 1:33:15.280 they go. He introduces them to his local allies, which 1:33:15.320 --> 1:33:19.000 include the priest father florin Vasila, who's a person of 1:33:19.040 --> 1:33:22.240 short stature who lost his elder brother to the wolf coven. 1:33:22.560 --> 1:33:25.360 There is Constantine, a local man who lost his daughter, 1:33:25.680 --> 1:33:28.679 and Luca, who lost his wife. And then for some reason, 1:33:28.760 --> 1:33:31.800 right after this, they zoom on a statue of Jesus. Well, 1:33:31.920 --> 1:33:33.479 maybe it's implying he's their other. 1:33:33.560 --> 1:33:36.439 Ally, Yeah, well they have all gathered together, and so 1:33:36.560 --> 1:33:41.599 he's there, right, And I guess wherever wherever, wherever three 1:33:41.680 --> 1:33:43.760 or more of you gather together in order to slay 1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:45.080 where wolves, I am there with you. 1:33:45.479 --> 1:33:49.479 I think, referring to in the original context to church 1:33:49.560 --> 1:33:52.240 gatherings or prayer or something, but it could refer to 1:33:52.280 --> 1:33:53.760 where wolf hunting parties as well. 1:33:53.880 --> 1:33:55.600 I think I think that is alluded to elsewhere in 1:33:55.840 --> 1:33:56.320 the Bible. 1:33:56.400 --> 1:33:59.599 Yes, So they come up with a plan. These guys 1:33:59.640 --> 1:34:02.639 are going to go look for Marianna at the village 1:34:02.680 --> 1:34:04.840 festival and when they find her, they're going to follow 1:34:04.840 --> 1:34:07.439 her to find Steerba and then when they find Steerba, 1:34:07.520 --> 1:34:10.640 Crossco is gonna take care of her. So in this 1:34:10.760 --> 1:34:14.599 scene they also describe their secret back channel communication method, 1:34:14.640 --> 1:34:17.439 which involves a puppet booth. Yeah, I never figured that out. 1:34:17.520 --> 1:34:19.120 I don't. I don't know, but I like the puppets. 1:34:19.120 --> 1:34:21.800 The puppets, the puppet play they're putting on. It seems 1:34:21.840 --> 1:34:23.360 to be where wolf related was pretty good. 1:34:23.760 --> 1:34:27.800 It's pretty good. Also, Chrispherley gives the gives Ben and 1:34:27.880 --> 1:34:30.840 Jenny each holy medals to where as protection and then 1:34:30.840 --> 1:34:33.920 we get a clock face wipe. So Ben and Jenny 1:34:33.960 --> 1:34:36.559 go to the festival and everybody's out dancing and watching 1:34:36.560 --> 1:34:39.320 the puppet shokea and it's about where wolves attacking people. 1:34:40.479 --> 1:34:42.920 Somewhere in here, there's a scene where Ben and Jenny 1:34:43.200 --> 1:34:46.080 are in bed talking about how the name of the 1:34:46.160 --> 1:34:50.080 village Volcava means the place where wolves live, and so 1:34:50.120 --> 1:34:52.240 they're just lying in bed and then suddenly there is 1:34:52.280 --> 1:34:55.280 a sawtooth wipe and some text on the screen says 1:34:55.520 --> 1:34:56.840 the following afternoon. 1:34:58.840 --> 1:35:01.320 All the wipes like, did you buy a could you 1:35:01.360 --> 1:35:03.320 buy a collection of package? Yeah? 1:35:04.720 --> 1:35:07.479 Why did it need to say the following afternoon? Cutting 1:35:07.479 --> 1:35:09.760 to the next day is a normal type of cut, 1:35:09.760 --> 1:35:12.639 and people understand it's not like cutting to three years later. 1:35:14.160 --> 1:35:14.599 Oh man. 1:35:15.640 --> 1:35:19.320 Uh So, Ben and Jenny there the next the following afternoon, 1:35:19.400 --> 1:35:23.479 they are dancing at a festival when uh, let's see Ben. 1:35:23.720 --> 1:35:27.160 Let's see first. Ben sees Marianna walking around with her 1:35:27.160 --> 1:35:30.240 wolf powls, and Ben tells Tondo to keep an eye 1:35:30.280 --> 1:35:34.040 on Jenny and he walks away, following the werewolves. Ben 1:35:34.080 --> 1:35:37.000 here is going to end up joining forces with Vacila 1:35:37.120 --> 1:35:39.920 and tracking down the were wolves to Stierba's castle, so 1:35:39.960 --> 1:35:42.200 they do a whole recon mission. I'm not going to 1:35:42.280 --> 1:35:46.479 recount everything that happens here, but basically Steerba is inside 1:35:46.520 --> 1:35:49.400 doing some crazy satanic magic where she's just saying a 1:35:49.400 --> 1:35:52.280 lot of Latin and you know, names of demons and stuff. 1:35:52.280 --> 1:35:55.080 She's reciting spells. This is where we first, I think, 1:35:55.160 --> 1:35:59.200 see her wearing the fem Darth Vader outfit, very robot 1:35:59.360 --> 1:36:03.040 like appear end and Ben and Vacilla's mission is going great. 1:36:03.080 --> 1:36:06.000 At first, Vacilla gives Ben a pair of ear plugs 1:36:06.040 --> 1:36:08.320 that look like teeth, but we will later learn that 1:36:08.400 --> 1:36:13.920 these are wax from the sacred candles. Yeah, they use 1:36:14.000 --> 1:36:17.160 them to plug their ears because this has never explained, 1:36:17.200 --> 1:36:19.360 but we learn that Seerbu can kind of use the 1:36:19.520 --> 1:36:22.960 voice to tie things into Sarumon again, so if you 1:36:23.040 --> 1:36:25.559 hear her voice, she can destroy you. So they plug 1:36:25.600 --> 1:36:29.840 their ears and approach the gate. Vacilla hurls a throwing 1:36:29.920 --> 1:36:32.840 knife to take out the werewolf guard and then he 1:36:32.920 --> 1:36:36.200 whacks him in the head with the morning Star, and 1:36:36.240 --> 1:36:39.320 Ben says, that's a definite new kill technique. 1:36:40.280 --> 1:36:43.000 It is Hey quality, definite new kill technique. 1:36:43.479 --> 1:36:46.559 So inside the castle Steerba. This is also the first 1:36:46.600 --> 1:36:49.040 scene where we see her wearing her Terminator sunglasses, so 1:36:49.080 --> 1:36:51.320 I guess this must be where she had a swollen eye. 1:36:51.680 --> 1:36:55.280 She reveals that Stefan Crossco is her brother, and though 1:36:55.320 --> 1:36:58.920 he plans to destroy her, in fact, she will destroy him. 1:36:59.400 --> 1:37:01.800 So many questions already at this point, because we have 1:37:01.840 --> 1:37:04.639 already established that she is like ten thousand years old. 1:37:04.960 --> 1:37:08.599 Does that mean Stephan is ten thousand years old? An 1:37:08.600 --> 1:37:11.960 Immortal Warrior or what. 1:37:14.200 --> 1:37:18.840 Quite confusing. Yeah, Marianna, I think she's eager to please 1:37:18.880 --> 1:37:23.160 her new werewolf friends, so she's like, let me kill him, 1:37:23.479 --> 1:37:28.599 and steer Ba says no, but you're sweet. Then Ben 1:37:28.640 --> 1:37:31.360 and Vacilla get spotted and they bolt as the were 1:37:31.400 --> 1:37:34.400 wolves give chase, and this is the scene where Steerbus 1:37:34.400 --> 1:37:38.040 starts using the voice like she's muttering these Latin phrases 1:37:38.120 --> 1:37:41.760 as they echo through the air all around. And unfortunately, 1:37:41.800 --> 1:37:45.280 while they are running away, Vascilla loses his ear plugs. 1:37:45.320 --> 1:37:47.519 They fall out of his ears into the dirt, and 1:37:47.560 --> 1:37:49.960 the voice gets into his ears and he starts screaming 1:37:50.000 --> 1:37:54.360 in pain, and then his eyeballs explode and shoot jets 1:37:54.400 --> 1:37:57.759 of blood, which is a horrifying and disgusting effect. 1:37:57.920 --> 1:38:01.400 Yeah, well done here. It looks looks grow nice exploding head. 1:38:01.439 --> 1:38:04.920 And then also Steve, but we get to see some 1:38:05.240 --> 1:38:08.320 like lightning red light horse lightning yeah, from her fingertips, 1:38:08.360 --> 1:38:10.919 which which looks pretty good. I think all the magical 1:38:11.040 --> 1:38:14.000 lighting effects in this picture look pretty good. 1:38:14.520 --> 1:38:18.360 Yeah, I can't complain. Meanwhile, Tondo lies to Jenny and 1:38:18.400 --> 1:38:21.519 tells her that Ben wants her to meet him somewhere else. 1:38:21.600 --> 1:38:23.280 And he's going to show her the way there, so 1:38:23.320 --> 1:38:27.200 he leads her off into the woods. He starts becoming 1:38:27.320 --> 1:38:31.280 very creepy and starts making unwonted moves on her, and 1:38:31.360 --> 1:38:35.719 then she like faints. But then before he can do anything, 1:38:35.760 --> 1:38:40.320 the other werewolves come and reprimand him. They're like, you know, Tondo, 1:38:40.439 --> 1:38:43.280 you're out of line. You will be disciplined. But Jenny 1:38:43.360 --> 1:38:45.800 is captured by the werewolves, so Steer but takes her 1:38:45.840 --> 1:38:48.360 back to the castle with plans to use her as 1:38:48.439 --> 1:38:51.720 bait for their real prey, which is chrispher Lee, who 1:38:51.760 --> 1:38:53.800 is down in the village watching the puppet show. Okay, 1:38:55.080 --> 1:38:57.920 so while yeah, I thought he was the real were 1:38:57.960 --> 1:38:59.840 wolf hunter, but he's watching the puppet show while the 1:39:00.240 --> 1:39:04.200 two or having wear wolf encounters. And then there's a 1:39:04.200 --> 1:39:08.120 scene where Stefan gets lured into a church after he 1:39:08.200 --> 1:39:12.360 sees a child in a mask wearing the holy metal 1:39:12.439 --> 1:39:14.479 that he gave to Jenny, and he follows the child 1:39:14.479 --> 1:39:16.920 to the church asks where the child got the medal, 1:39:17.000 --> 1:39:20.280 but it's a trap. The child is actually a magically 1:39:20.320 --> 1:39:26.160 possessed demonic Eyelis of Acila in service of the witchcraft 1:39:26.240 --> 1:39:29.040 of Stirba, and he swipes it Crossco with a knife, 1:39:29.040 --> 1:39:31.880 but Ben arrives just in time to throw him out 1:39:31.920 --> 1:39:35.000 the window, where he is impaled on spikes below. I 1:39:35.000 --> 1:39:36.640 don't know if you noticed this, Rob, but in the 1:39:36.680 --> 1:39:39.000 shot where Ben throws him out the window, it is 1:39:39.080 --> 1:39:43.519 not Reb Brown at all. Like whoever this stunt double 1:39:43.640 --> 1:39:46.960 is does not look the slightest bit like Reb Brown 1:39:47.080 --> 1:39:49.320 even from behind. You can only see from behind, but 1:39:49.600 --> 1:39:52.439 it's a guy with curly hair who is bald on top. 1:39:52.880 --> 1:39:56.840 I mean, imagine rolling your production into some sort of 1:39:56.840 --> 1:40:01.320 like small town European setting and you have Red Brown here, 1:40:02.000 --> 1:40:05.320 enormous dude, you know, former high school and college football 1:40:05.320 --> 1:40:08.160 player turned actor, and you're going to just find him 1:40:08.160 --> 1:40:10.920 a body double. You know, good luck, good luck finding 1:40:10.960 --> 1:40:14.639 him a body double like anywhere kind of a singular 1:40:14.720 --> 1:40:15.439 looking dude. 1:40:16.439 --> 1:40:18.280 So we've kind of got the setup for the final 1:40:18.320 --> 1:40:20.840 act here. Jenny has been captured by Steerba and the 1:40:20.840 --> 1:40:23.960 werewolf coven. They're keeping her tied up in this dungeon 1:40:24.000 --> 1:40:27.040 where the walls are made out of skulls, and then 1:40:27.120 --> 1:40:29.840 Ben and Crossco, along with the rest of their allies 1:40:29.840 --> 1:40:31.880 from the village, You're gonna have to go rescue Jenny 1:40:31.920 --> 1:40:34.960 and destroy Steerbu's power. So there's a scene where they 1:40:35.000 --> 1:40:37.800 get all their weapons. They're going to use some consecrated oil, 1:40:38.120 --> 1:40:40.720 some wax from sacred candles to plug their ears. I 1:40:40.720 --> 1:40:44.200 guess so their eyes don't explode. Yeah, titanium daggers, of 1:40:44.240 --> 1:40:48.200 course they've got those around. And then this. They skip 1:40:48.240 --> 1:40:53.040 over this really quick, but Stefan says the chalice that 1:40:53.160 --> 1:40:55.960 held the sacred Blood of Christ. 1:40:55.400 --> 1:40:58.519 Like, is this on loan from the Vatican secret vault? Like? 1:40:59.160 --> 1:40:59.920 Does that just work? 1:41:00.400 --> 1:41:04.479 Got the Holy Grail there with them, holy water, and 1:41:04.560 --> 1:41:07.479 then a gun that belonged to Vacilla. Ben is going 1:41:07.560 --> 1:41:09.160 to get to use this. I guess it goes without 1:41:09.160 --> 1:41:10.960 saying that it's got silver bullets at Yeah. 1:41:11.000 --> 1:41:12.400 Yeah, he's like, give me the gun. I know how 1:41:12.400 --> 1:41:14.080 to use that. Yeah, holy Grail. 1:41:14.200 --> 1:41:17.080 No, No, not interested in the Holy Grail. But I 1:41:17.120 --> 1:41:18.800 would have to think the Holy Grail would be even 1:41:18.840 --> 1:41:20.439 more effective than the gun. I don't know. 1:41:20.520 --> 1:41:23.680 Yeah, but that's more of a Stephan weapon. Yeah, red 1:41:23.720 --> 1:41:26.679 brown with the Holy Grail, it's just too laughter inducing. 1:41:27.080 --> 1:41:29.599 Yeah, but we get to see Stefan is also doing 1:41:29.720 --> 1:41:31.960 werewolf gun play. In the next scene, he starts shooting 1:41:31.960 --> 1:41:35.280 like something that looks like a luger or something. Meanwhile, 1:41:35.320 --> 1:41:37.880 at Steerba's castle, everybody's meeting up for some kind of 1:41:37.960 --> 1:41:42.320 ritual werewolf orgy. If you look at the werewolf orgy crowd, 1:41:42.360 --> 1:41:45.000 there's one guy in the middle of it doing a handstand. Yeah, 1:41:45.240 --> 1:41:47.280 just so like some people are there for the orgy, 1:41:47.320 --> 1:41:49.320 some just want to do gymnastics practice. 1:41:49.479 --> 1:41:51.680 I mean, it's a free for all. It's like, this 1:41:51.760 --> 1:41:54.000 is the this is what you kind of get from 1:41:53.840 --> 1:41:57.280 the werewolf coven here. It's like, yes, there are plans 1:41:57.280 --> 1:41:59.559 to reverse evolution and take over the world. Yes, they 1:41:59.560 --> 1:42:03.080 want to eat random dirt bags and you know innocence 1:42:03.120 --> 1:42:06.000 as well. But also they're just stuft for a good time. 1:42:06.040 --> 1:42:10.920 They're just heatonists. They're in touch with their their biological origins. 1:42:10.960 --> 1:42:13.719 They're in touch with the beast in all its forms. 1:42:13.800 --> 1:42:17.400 So well, I think this ties into the tagline about 1:42:17.400 --> 1:42:20.160 like the rock and roll lifestyle of the yeah too. Yeah, 1:42:20.360 --> 1:42:24.320 they're trying to sell that. Yeah. And speaking of rock 1:42:24.320 --> 1:42:27.599 and roll lifestyle, here is where it's implied that the 1:42:27.640 --> 1:42:30.479 band from the club in la is playing at the castle. 1:42:30.640 --> 1:42:33.920 We hear the song and it's showing them playing it, 1:42:34.640 --> 1:42:37.519 trying to create the impression that they're in the room 1:42:37.640 --> 1:42:40.320 with the orgy, but the footage is obviously the same 1:42:40.400 --> 1:42:42.080 footage from the club earlier. 1:42:42.360 --> 1:42:46.040 Yeah. Yeah. In the interview with Danning, she's like, oh, yes, 1:42:46.040 --> 1:42:48.280 Stir was so cool. She has her own band, so 1:42:48.400 --> 1:42:50.960 even even she thought was like, I thought this must 1:42:51.000 --> 1:42:52.760 be the werewolf Queen's band. 1:42:53.920 --> 1:42:56.479 So Steerbu gets worried that the enemies are approaching the 1:42:56.520 --> 1:42:59.160 castle through the woods, so she interrupts the party and 1:42:59.200 --> 1:43:02.160 sends the werewolf out to get them. Our heroes get 1:43:02.200 --> 1:43:04.400 ambushed by were wolves in the forest and they put 1:43:04.479 --> 1:43:07.280 up a fight. Ben of course, lets out some wonderful 1:43:07.320 --> 1:43:10.679 screeches when he starts blasting. The humans win the fight, 1:43:10.760 --> 1:43:14.320 though their ally Constantine, is killed, and then another one 1:43:14.320 --> 1:43:18.040 of the villagers, Luca, gets nabbed by a werewolf from 1:43:18.040 --> 1:43:21.080 a pit trap beneath the path, and Christopher Lee then 1:43:21.160 --> 1:43:24.920 hits the trap with a holy hand grenade. Final action. 1:43:25.520 --> 1:43:27.519 So this builds up to the final action once they 1:43:27.600 --> 1:43:29.920 reach the castle. I'll break it down into a few 1:43:29.960 --> 1:43:34.799 different threads here. One is their remaining ally, the priest 1:43:34.840 --> 1:43:37.719 who's been along for the mission. Father Florin. He tries 1:43:37.760 --> 1:43:40.679 to sneak up on Steerba with a battle axe while 1:43:40.720 --> 1:43:44.000 she's doing some magic spells, but she wheels about on 1:43:44.120 --> 1:43:46.479 him and then she gets him with We should have 1:43:46.560 --> 1:43:49.760 mentioned this earlier. She's got a staff on top of 1:43:49.800 --> 1:43:54.000 which is a beef jerky gargoyle, And the beef jerky 1:43:54.000 --> 1:43:59.479 gargoyle comes alive and it does xenomore face hugger stuff 1:43:59.520 --> 1:44:02.880 to the pre Like, it attacks his face and then 1:44:03.120 --> 1:44:07.040 revoltingly sticks some kind of tail or tube down his 1:44:07.280 --> 1:44:10.799 throat and then blood comes out of all his face holes. 1:44:11.479 --> 1:44:14.960 It is gross and genuinely disturbing. The effects here looked, 1:44:15.120 --> 1:44:17.719 I don't know, like it literally made me feel bad. 1:44:20.400 --> 1:44:22.920 I agree with that. I loved it, But mostly I 1:44:23.000 --> 1:44:27.240 just love the way Sybil Danning like considers the staff 1:44:27.400 --> 1:44:29.720 the gargole of staff before using it. It's like she's 1:44:29.720 --> 1:44:32.920 clearly having a great time here, and then yeah, what 1:44:33.120 --> 1:44:37.639 uses this horrific magical weapon against the priest? And yeah, 1:44:37.680 --> 1:44:38.919 body heart ensues. 1:44:39.280 --> 1:44:42.639 Steer Bud then sends Vlad and Marianna to go get 1:44:42.880 --> 1:44:46.519 Jinny from the skull room. They're having some trouble because 1:44:46.720 --> 1:44:49.679 I think Vlad is feeling the urge to warp into 1:44:49.680 --> 1:44:52.400 wolf mode, but Marianna is yelling at him to get 1:44:52.400 --> 1:44:55.800 control of himself. I didn't understand this part, like, can 1:44:55.840 --> 1:44:58.559 they not carry out their orders when in wolf mode, 1:44:58.600 --> 1:45:01.479 because it seems like throughout the movie we see wolves 1:45:01.520 --> 1:45:04.640 in wolf mode doing Steerba's commands. 1:45:05.000 --> 1:45:09.760 Yeah, this feels like it's an either underdeveloped idea or 1:45:09.840 --> 1:45:13.200 maybe a remnant of one of the previous scripts because 1:45:13.479 --> 1:45:15.559 it really doesn't seem to matter for most of the picture. 1:45:16.240 --> 1:45:18.679 But anyway, once they get down to the dungeon, Ben 1:45:18.760 --> 1:45:23.080 is there. Ben shoots Vlad with silver and then stabs 1:45:23.120 --> 1:45:27.040 Marianna with the titanium dagger. Feels like a very sudden 1:45:27.120 --> 1:45:31.040 and unceremonious end to these major villains. I thought there'd 1:45:31.080 --> 1:45:33.240 be more of a I don't know, more of a confrontation, 1:45:33.280 --> 1:45:35.400 there'd be more to the end of them than this. Yeah, 1:45:35.439 --> 1:45:38.799 I agree, but he just unties Jenny and they escape 1:45:38.800 --> 1:45:41.280 the castle. Meanwhile, we get the final show down between 1:45:41.360 --> 1:45:45.320 Stephan and Steerba. He has to go confront Steerba by himself. 1:45:46.000 --> 1:45:50.120 Some weird you know, lanister incest vibes pop up from 1:45:50.160 --> 1:45:54.120 out of nowhere. She's suddenly trying to seduce him. Don't 1:45:54.160 --> 1:45:58.240 know where that comes from. She's saying a bunch of 1:45:58.479 --> 1:46:01.439 they're like. It actually becomes quite funny because they are 1:46:01.479 --> 1:46:06.040 both mumbling these magic spells at each other back and forth. 1:46:06.040 --> 1:46:09.160 He's doing, I guess, a more Christian flavored invocation of magic, 1:46:09.560 --> 1:46:12.160 and she's over there like you know by Asta Roth 1:46:12.280 --> 1:46:15.639 and but you knew, and just saying all these names 1:46:15.680 --> 1:46:19.639 and stuff, trying to do magic against him. But finally 1:46:19.680 --> 1:46:22.439 they're sort of embracing and he stabs her with the 1:46:22.479 --> 1:46:26.040 titanium blade and then they are consumed by magic fire. 1:46:26.439 --> 1:46:28.880 I mean, if she is indeed a ten thousand year 1:46:28.920 --> 1:46:32.439 old werewolf queen almost some sort of a demi god, 1:46:32.520 --> 1:46:37.120 and he too is some sort of an immortal adversary 1:46:37.439 --> 1:46:39.840 of her, then I don't know. You're getting into that 1:46:39.880 --> 1:46:42.240 weird area. And the gods are always incestuous with each 1:46:42.280 --> 1:46:46.559 other our various mythologies, so I guess it makes sense. 1:46:46.720 --> 1:46:52.120 It doesn't make sense. It really feels like different versions 1:46:52.120 --> 1:46:55.320 of the script are colliding here, But I don't know. 1:46:55.560 --> 1:46:58.479 If I do enough mental gymnastics, I can get there. 1:46:58.920 --> 1:47:03.439 There is nothing about Stephan other than other than what 1:47:03.479 --> 1:47:05.360 we've been talking about that would imply he is an 1:47:05.360 --> 1:47:08.040 ancient being. He really reads as a character written as 1:47:08.080 --> 1:47:09.840 a regular human monster hunter. 1:47:10.160 --> 1:47:13.799 Yeah, but then how come if his sister is a werewolf, 1:47:13.840 --> 1:47:15.439 then why is she ten thousand years old? 1:47:15.720 --> 1:47:19.599 Yeah, it doesn't make sense, but she I like how 1:47:19.680 --> 1:47:23.120 it's implied that she sort of invented being a were wolf. Yeah, 1:47:23.240 --> 1:47:28.479 she invented were wolves. So anyway, Ben and Jenny escape. 1:47:28.520 --> 1:47:30.799 There's a scene that I think he's played for comedy, 1:47:30.840 --> 1:47:33.599 but does not. It's not funny in the way it's 1:47:33.640 --> 1:47:36.160 supposed to be, where Ben and Jenny go back to 1:47:36.200 --> 1:47:38.400 the village and Ben like points a gun at the 1:47:38.479 --> 1:47:40.640 villagers and tells them how to get to the airport 1:47:41.000 --> 1:47:45.280 and like it seems it's a little much Ben, and 1:47:45.320 --> 1:47:48.160 then it cuts to one year later. The next year, 1:47:48.280 --> 1:47:52.040 Ben and Jenny are living happily together. I guess it's 1:47:52.080 --> 1:47:55.519 Halloween and they somebody knocks on their door. They open 1:47:55.560 --> 1:47:57.800 the door and it is a child in a very 1:47:57.840 --> 1:48:01.719 convincing looking werewolf mask. So they give the child a treat, 1:48:01.760 --> 1:48:03.960 and the child leaves and seems to have come from 1:48:04.080 --> 1:48:07.439 the apartment across the hall. So they go to invite 1:48:07.479 --> 1:48:10.240 their new neighbor over for wine. But the man who 1:48:10.240 --> 1:48:12.720 comes to the door is this odd European gentleman and 1:48:12.760 --> 1:48:15.040 a priest's caller who says, Oh, I don't have a child, 1:48:15.080 --> 1:48:18.600 I live alone, I guess, implying that I don't know 1:48:18.680 --> 1:48:21.439 people from Volcavo are coming to get them. 1:48:21.520 --> 1:48:24.000 They were wolves are at large in the world. Still 1:48:24.479 --> 1:48:25.200 the threat. 1:48:24.960 --> 1:48:30.000 Remains, and then during the credits, it's a whole music video. 1:48:30.160 --> 1:48:33.599 It's just a clip show of the movie you just watched, 1:48:34.120 --> 1:48:36.439 and it shows the scene where Sybil Danning rips her 1:48:36.439 --> 1:48:39.680 clothes off about forty times. It uses it in a 1:48:39.760 --> 1:48:43.080 percussive manner. She has a at the beginning. 1:48:42.680 --> 1:48:45.559 Rip away top. And they use this scene over and 1:48:45.560 --> 1:48:49.519 over again like it's like it's a hec static video 1:48:49.640 --> 1:48:50.120 or something. 1:48:50.600 --> 1:48:53.880 Yeah, which is a bit nice. It's the beginning of 1:48:53.960 --> 1:48:56.960 every bar on the song by Babel. Of course you 1:48:57.000 --> 1:48:59.599 hear Babel once again since the world begins. 1:49:01.280 --> 1:49:06.000 But it does drive home that Howling two was a party, 1:49:06.920 --> 1:49:09.559 that was the prime that was the prime reasoning here. 1:49:09.560 --> 1:49:11.320 They don't leave it on. They don't even really want 1:49:11.320 --> 1:49:14.439 to land on that humorous node or that ominous note. 1:49:15.000 --> 1:49:17.000 They just want to remind you, hey, you just had 1:49:17.000 --> 1:49:19.000 a good time, right, it was fun. Right, you do 1:49:19.080 --> 1:49:19.559 this again? 1:49:19.720 --> 1:49:22.559 Right? Once we get to the ending of the movie, 1:49:23.320 --> 1:49:26.160 do we know anything more about what would have happened 1:49:26.200 --> 1:49:30.000 if Steerbaugh was not staked? Was the process of evolution 1:49:30.200 --> 1:49:31.760 going to be reversed worldwide? 1:49:32.000 --> 1:49:36.559 I think everyone would have been turned into horny wolf people. Yes, 1:49:36.680 --> 1:49:38.040 I think that's what would have happened. 1:49:38.320 --> 1:49:40.439 But eventually, bacteria, I guess. 1:49:40.640 --> 1:49:43.400 Yeah, does it stop? Because if you know, yeah, maybe 1:49:43.400 --> 1:49:46.120 the world's a better place either way. I don't know. 1:49:47.200 --> 1:49:53.360 Maybe that's what we needed a species, But they prevented it, 1:49:53.400 --> 1:49:55.479 and hopefully they had our best interest at heart. 1:49:55.760 --> 1:49:57.000 Hats off to Sybil Danning. 1:49:57.080 --> 1:50:02.160 She rules this movie absolutely. I mean I thinking again that, like, 1:50:02.200 --> 1:50:05.080 you have such an amazing trio of actors here, Christopher Lee, 1:50:05.240 --> 1:50:09.240 Reb Brown and Sibil Danning, all three of them outrageous 1:50:09.320 --> 1:50:12.120 and amazing in their own way, and all three kind 1:50:12.120 --> 1:50:14.280 of like carrying their own weight. Like you could leave 1:50:14.360 --> 1:50:16.360 this thinking of it as a Red Brown picture. You 1:50:16.400 --> 1:50:19.200 could leave it thinking of it as a Christopher Leef picture. 1:50:19.240 --> 1:50:21.720 But I have to agree with you. I think this 1:50:21.840 --> 1:50:22.719 is Sybil's picture. 1:50:23.160 --> 1:50:25.599 I think most people are gonna leave it, thinking of 1:50:25.640 --> 1:50:29.000 it as a sibil danding picture. She is. Yeah, once 1:50:29.040 --> 1:50:31.800 she first appears, you can almost feel it in the 1:50:31.960 --> 1:50:35.360 editing that there is a constant anxiety, like a pressure, 1:50:36.000 --> 1:50:39.440 driving us to cut back to Steerba as frequently as possible. 1:50:39.800 --> 1:50:42.679 It's like, you know, characters should be standing around asking 1:50:42.680 --> 1:50:45.759 what's Pooci doing? Why isn't Pouocy on screen right now? 1:50:46.520 --> 1:50:47.759 It's like that with Stierba. 1:50:47.880 --> 1:50:50.599 Yeah, what is Steerba doing? What is Steerba wearing? We've 1:50:50.600 --> 1:50:53.400 got to know she's doing some sort of weird arcane 1:50:53.479 --> 1:50:57.439 ritual or lounging on a throne somewhere, and we want 1:50:57.439 --> 1:50:58.160 all the details. 1:50:58.760 --> 1:51:00.960 Folks, If you're watching on VID and you just saw 1:51:01.800 --> 1:51:04.560 Rob's feed go dark, we've just had a technical difficulty 1:51:04.600 --> 1:51:06.080 and lost his camera. 1:51:06.040 --> 1:51:08.400 You might be wondering, did I start changing into a 1:51:08.439 --> 1:51:11.720 werewolf and did JJ have to shoot me? No, that 1:51:11.880 --> 1:51:13.960 is not true, just something went weird with the camera. 1:51:14.600 --> 1:51:17.720 We'll work on that for the next episode. 1:51:17.560 --> 1:51:20.719 Unless we detect the process of evolution that's being reversed, 1:51:20.720 --> 1:51:22.639 in which case all bets are off. 1:51:22.720 --> 1:51:25.240 All right, Well, keep the camera on Joe here, Joe, 1:51:25.720 --> 1:51:27.559 I'm just going to say real quick as I always do. 1:51:27.640 --> 1:51:29.360 Stuff to Blow Your Mind is primarily a science and 1:51:29.400 --> 1:51:31.640 culture podcast with core episodes and two seas and Thursdays, 1:51:31.680 --> 1:51:33.800 but on Fridays we set aside most serious concerns, So 1:51:33.840 --> 1:51:36.400 just talk about a weird film here on Weird House Cinema. 1:51:36.439 --> 1:51:39.280 Follow us on Letterbox we were Weird House. 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